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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: one-eyed on September 11, 2020, 10:36:06 PM
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Two forced outs in Lynch & Soldo.
Dimma said Astbury & Edwards will be back.
Fire away with your changes?
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How bad is Lynch ? And Soldo.
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Out: Soldo. Lynch. Pickett (#tackleb4bump - bad luck)
Ins: Chol. Caddy (if available play him forward). Edwards
If not caddy Or maybe Astbury up forward if available.
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Out: Lynch, Soldo, Markov, Ross
In: Caddy, Chol, Astbury, Edwards
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Thought Markov was ok so tough call.
Out Soldo, Lynch, Aarts
In. Chol, Edwards, Astbur
Chol forward, Nank main ruck with a slight chop out
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Thought Markov was ok so tough call.
Out Soldo, Lynch, Aarts
In. Chol, Edwards, Astbur
Chol forward, Nank main ruck with a slight chop out
Thought markov was good but like I’ve said before were only ever going to play 7 defenders. It’s why broad hasn’t been getting a game. If astbury comes back you need to drop or reposition one of grimes, balta, vlas, Houli, baker or short which won’t happen.
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Out:
Soldo
Lynch
Ross stiff
In:
Chol
Astbury
Edwards
Aarts and Pickett watch your backs.
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Dimma said Astbury and Edwards will play next week. Seems Chol will too. Caddy and Broad are also available.
How bad is Lynch ?
Dimma said he'll have scans Monday to find out the severity of the hammy. Tom Browne said 2-3 weeks but they/we are hoping [fingers crossed/touchwood] it is similar to Grimes and Lynch will be okay for our first final. Fortunately, there's a pre-finals bye.
And Soldo.
Suspected ACL (See Soldo thread).
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Out:
Soldo
Lynch
Ross stiff
In:
Chol
Astbury
Edwards
Aarts and Pickett watch your backs.
Pickett was very good tonight and has been for the past 6 weeks. Apart from his tendency to bump instead of tackle, think he did everything the coaches asked of him and more.
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Out:
Soldo
Lynch
Ross stiff
In:
Chol
Astbury
Edwards
Aarts and Pickett watch your backs.
Pickett was very good tonight and has been for the past 6 weeks. Apart from his tendency to bump instead of tackle, think he did everything the coaches asked of him and more.
I liked his game, but are you going to keep him in the side ahead of Prestia later? Who would you drop? Same with Aarts. Gives 100%, tackles hard etc but you have to wonder if he's best 22 when the list is healthy.
Pickett a solid contributor. Didn't even mind his attempted bump. His disposal by foot a couple of times tonight was poor and costly.
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Out:
Soldo
Lynch
Ross stiff
In:
Chol
Astbury
Edwards
Aarts and Pickett watch your backs.
Pickett was very good tonight and has been for the past 6 weeks. Apart from his tendency to bump instead of tackle, think he did everything the coaches asked of him and more.
I liked his game, but are you going to keep him in the side ahead of Prestia later? Who would you drop? Same with Aarts. Gives 100%, tackles hard etc but you have to wonder if he's best 22 when the list is healthy.
Pickett a solid contributor. Didn't even mind his attempted bump. His disposal by foot a couple of times tonight was poor and costly.
If astbury comes in there’s no way markov stays in. A defender has to replace a defender. I think Edwards replaces ross, chol replaces soldo and caddy comes in for lynch.
You’re right though when Prestia comes in, it will be very tough to pick who comes out but I doubt it’ll be Pickett.
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Out:
Soldo
Lynch
Ross stiff
In:
Chol
Astbury
Edwards
Aarts and Pickett watch your backs.
Pickett was very good tonight and has been for the past 6 weeks. Apart from his tendency to bump instead of tackle, think he did everything the coaches asked of him and more.
I liked his game, but are you going to keep him in the side ahead of Prestia later? Who would you drop? Same with Aarts. Gives 100%, tackles hard etc but you have to wonder if he's best 22 when the list is healthy.
Pickett a solid contributor. Didn't even mind his attempted bump. His disposal by foot a couple of times tonight was poor and costly.
If astbury comes in there’s no way markov stays in. A defender has to replace a defender. I think Edwards replaces ross, chol replaces soldo and caddy comes in for lynch.
You’re right though when Prestia comes in, it will be very tough to pick who comes out but I doubt it’ll be Pickett.
I've really liked Markov across HB. Great run.
Pickett - I am a fan. Honestly when I see he's only had 10 touches I am surprised. He does a lot off the ball I reckon.
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Ins: Chol, Caddy, Shed, Astbury
Outs: Lynch, Soldo, Markov, Ross
Shed and astbury need the game time for sure.
However our back 6 is so settled and so strong Im not sure how astbury fits in. He will have to take Baltas role as astbury cant play any other role really.
Where does that leave Balta. Do we throw him forward or into the ruck after the season he has had in the backline.. I dont think so, but it could work. Hes such a wild card.
Not sure the coaching staff trusts balta in a more attacking role in defence just yet.
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INS: Edwards, Caddy, RCD
OUTS: Lynch, Soldo, Aarts
Think we will revert to only 1 ruckman
Aarts out maybe harsh but I thought he was average last night. Panicked alot
Back 6 is too settled so I'm not sold on Astbury coming back in.
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Why play a potentially underdone Astbury when our back six looks solid and Balta has been a revelation?
Is Astbury that important that you’d risk throwing everything out of balance?
Not for me.
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Why play a potentially underdone Astbury when our back six looks solid and Balta has been a revelation?
Is Astbury that important that you’d risk throwing everything out of balance?
Not for me.
:clapping
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Balta on a wing :rollin
How is his tank?
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Why play a potentially underdone Astbury when our back six looks solid and Balta has been a revelation?
Is Astbury that important that you’d risk throwing everything out of balance?
Not for me.
:clapping
How would he be throwing out team balance? He would be replacing markov in defence. Are you really trying to tell me markov is more valuable than Dave astbury???
In 2017 we played Rance, astbury, grimes, broad, vlas, Houli and Ellis. So if anything were playing shorter than that year given you’re replacing Rance with balta, Ellis with short and broad with baker.
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In
Chol
Edwards
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Jack just said Chol kicked 5 in today's practice game :thumbsup
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Chol in the ruck...play Emergency-Dawkins forward.... :shh
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Why play a potentially underdone Astbury when our back six looks solid and Balta has been a revelation?
Is Astbury that important that you’d risk throwing everything out of balance?
Not for me.
:clapping
How would he be throwing out team balance? He would be replacing markov in defence. Are you really trying to tell me markov is more valuable than Dave astbury???
In 2017 we played Rance, astbury, grimes, broad, vlas, Houli and Ellis. So if anything were playing shorter than that year given you’re replacing Rance with balta, Ellis with short and broad with baker.
Cmon dude, I shouldn’t have to explain why replacing a big slow key defender with a quick rebounding player could potentially impact the balance of a backline that is currently functioning very well....
You may not necessarily agree but the logic is pretty clear I would have thought.
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The reprogramming of Broad is complete.
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Why play a potentially underdone Astbury when our back six looks solid and Balta has been a revelation?
Is Astbury that important that you’d risk throwing everything out of balance?
Not for me.
:clapping
How would he be throwing out team balance? He would be replacing markov in defence. Are you really trying to tell me markov is more valuable than Dave astbury???
In 2017 we played Rance, astbury, grimes, broad, vlas, Houli and Ellis. So if anything were playing shorter than that year given you’re replacing Rance with balta, Ellis with short and broad with baker.
Cmon dude, I shouldn’t have to explain why replacing a big slow key defender with a quick rebounding player could potentially impact the balance of a backline that is currently functioning very well....
You may not necessarily agree but the logic is pretty clear I would have thought.
Think we have plenty of run with baker, short and Houli. Wouldn’t mind another big body to help out balta so grimes can either lock down the most dangerous small or play loose.
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Anyone got any scratch match info from today?
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Anyone got any scratch match info from today?
Jack on MMM earlier today mentioned that Chol kicked 2 goals in the first half of the scratch match.
https://omny.fm/shows/the-rub/jack-riewoldt-joins-the-saturday-rub-following-ric
Edit: Tom Browne on 7news said he was told Chol kicked 5 goals all up.
https://twitter.com/7NewsMelbourne/status/1304704592672743425
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I’d rest the captain and grimes.
No point testing those hammy’s with a trip to SA against the wooden spooner.
That allows Astbury to come back, I’d also leave Markov in - while the back 6 is settled I’m a little worried Bachar is still is little below his best and Markov gives us good running support across the back 50.
I reckon that Caddy is the perfect replacement for Lynch, he’s a nice mark and a lovely kick for goal and can give Jack the chop out he’ll need as the sole key forward. Chol can also pinch hit in the f50z
So, for me:-
Ins
Astbury, Shedda, Chol, Caddy
Outs
Cotchin, Grimes (both rested), Soldo, Lynch
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Problem I see with resting is that it will mean going into the first final they wouldn't have played for perhaps a fortnight.
Not sure that is what they need
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Adelaide are in form as I write this they are giving the blues a right old seeing too. Its like 40 to 9. We need to be careful we dont blow it. Players have to be switched on and put the crows away early.
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Adelaide are in form as I write this they are giving the blues a right old seeing too. Its like 40 to 9. We need to be careful we dont blow it. Players have to be switched on and put the crows away early.
Don't worry they will throw it vs us.
They will be mere % below North and don't want to lose pick 1.
If they beat us then North will throw their final game to get P1.
So the crows will make a sure thing of it and bend the knee to us.
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Go in at full strength. Don't flirt with form or personnel.
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Go in at full strength. Don't flirt with form or personnel.
This.
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Without a doubt no taking this game easy those clowns would be licking there lips sending us away last round.
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Will they want to give up pick 1?? Interesting.
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Problem I see with resting is that it will mean going into the first final they wouldn't have played for perhaps a fortnight.
Not sure that is what they need
Don’t forget that we’ll be playing Weds or Thursday night so it’s not likely to be a full 2 weeks.
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Problem I see with resting is that it will mean going into the first final they wouldn't have played for perhaps a fortnight.
Not sure that is what they need
Don’t forget that we’ll be playing Weds or Thursday night so it’s not likely to be a full 2 weeks.
Playing Sat night 5:10pm EST.
https://www.afl.com.au/fixture?Competition=1&CompSeason=20&MatchTimezone=MY_TIME&Regions=2&ShowBettingOdds=1&GameWeeks=18&Teams=1&Venues=3#byround
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When you see the strength of this squad it's really very good.
B. Vlastuin. Balta Astbury
HB. Houli. Grimes. Short
C. Mcintosh Bolton. Pickett
HF. Rioli Reiwoldt. Castagna
F. Edwards Chol Lambert
R. Nankervis Martin. Cotchin.
Int. Baker. Aarts. Graham. Markov
Interesting to see if Astbury & Edward's both come in this week??
Emerg/in the wings
Ross. Caddy. Broad. Higgins
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I think Cotchin and grimes do need their hammies rested though. They both proved they can hit top form with time out in the sidelines.
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Problem I see with resting is that it will mean going into the first final they wouldn't have played for perhaps a fortnight.
Not sure that is what they need
Don’t forget that we’ll be playing Weds or Thursday night so it’s not likely to be a full 2 weeks.
Playing Sat night 5:10pm EST.
https://www.afl.com.au/fixture?Competition=1&CompSeason=20&MatchTimezone=MY_TIME&Regions=2&ShowBettingOdds=1&GameWeeks=18&Teams=1&Venues=3#byround
I’m talking about our first final which - if we win on Sat - will most likely be the first final played, either a Wednesday or a Thursday depending on which rumour you prefer.
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Wouldn't suprise me they make us travel last round and then play first.
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Wouldn't suprise me they make us travel last round and then play first.
That’s what normally happens. We are the blockbuster club, everyone wants to watch us play or watch us fall.
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Lynch and Soldo likely replacements
By Andrew Slevison
SEN
15 September 2020
Jack Riewoldt on SEN’s Tiger Time speculated on the likely replacements for both Soldo and Lynch and what the Tigers’ forward set-up will look like this weekend.
Mabior Chol and Josh Caddy are in line to play while Shane Edwards is expected to return after coming through the quarantine hub.
“I think Mabior Chol will probably play a pretty important role over the weekend,” he added.
“You just go like for like. When I say like for like, Mabior probably has a stronger ability to play in the ruck than myself and Lynchy.
“He’s been playing good footy so he’ll come in I would have thought.
“Then after that, you’ve got to have a look and see which way you want to go.
“(Josh) Caddy’s played good football forward as well and been able to play tall. (Shane) Edwards comes out of the (quarantine) hub so he’ll train (today) which is exciting, so you’d think that he comes in.
“There’s some decisions to be made but I think we’ve shown over the last three years that we’ve got the ability to play different types of forwards.
“Guys like (Jason) Castagna, (Jake) Aarts and (Daniel) Rioli certainly can play well in the air as they can on the ground.”
https://www.sen.com.au/news/2020/09/15/the-expected-lynch-absence-and-the-likely-replacement/
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Chol and Caddy trained with the forwards yesterday.
(https://www.aflphotos.com.au/images/thumbs/800/2020/09/15/782338.jpg)
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Looks like the coaching staff have locked in both MacIntosh and Pickett as our designated wingman.
Caddy up forward makes sense as he’s already proven himself up there but I still worry about his lack of speed when Jack and Tom aren’t blessed with speed either.
I felt the same about Caddy late last year and he ended up owning a wing in the finals.
Is he better than Pickett or MacIntosh as a wingman? Maybe we should have another look at his final series last season. :rollin :shh
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Caddy is a natural forward capable of kicking bags of goals, he should be in the team and playing forward.
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Like to see another mid come in for one of Castagna or Aarts (you don't drop Rioli at this time of year) :shh
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From Ivan Maric on coaches corner:
Mabior Chol
“We are looking to see who is going to come in for Soldo. I know ‘Cholly’ had a really, really strong game in the scratch match against Geelong so we will find out later in the week.
“He is really hard to match up on, especially when he comes in fresh as a second ruck option, it’s hard for opposition rucks to play on him. The other part of his game which has been really consistent and great this year, is his forward play and he did that really well (on the weekend).
“He kicked five goals but competed really strongly in the air. Jack Riewoldt and Tom Lynch have been spending a lot of time with him coaching how to compete against three, and that was probably the most pleasing part of his game against Geelong in the scratch match. It would be hard for ‘Dimma’ not to pick him.”
Chol as a deep forward
“It could be a little look at the future of the Club, and I think ‘Marbs’ is so capable of playing as a permanent forward that can go into the ruck.
“I think also whether we play another key or go another small I am not sure which way 'Dimma' is going to go with that. I think we have got plenty of options which is great.”
https://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/813942/coaches-corner-round-17
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Just on Ch9 Twitter
Bolton won't play this week, out with corked calf
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Oh FFS :banghead
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That is fine, good actually. Bolton deserves a break, as he looked a little down last week.
Titch in
Bolts out :thumbsup
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Sheds is back!
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The Tigers will welcome two-time premiership player Shane Edwards back into the fold for Saturday’s clash with the Crows.
Edwards came through the quarantine hub and linked up with the squad this week having spent the past few months in Melbourne for the birth of his daughter Mya.
“He’ll play. Shane is a high-quality player in our best 22,” Adam Kingsley said.
“He’s prepared really well. He spent a couple of weeks in quarantine training with Gary Ablett and (Dan) Hannebery and a few others.
“He’s fit, he’s strong, so he’ll play and we’ll see how he goes.”
With Edwards coming in, it gives Richmond a chance to rest Shai Bolton who is nursing a corked calf. He is expected to go out of the side along with Ivan Soldo (ACL) and Tom Lynch (hamstring) with Mabior Chol and perhaps Josh Caddy the replacements.
Defender David Astbury could also be set to return to senior footy.
https://www.sen.com.au/news/2020/09/17/richmonds-stance-on-wanted-midfielder-graham-premiership-tiger-returns/
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Chol is in along with Sheds.
Astbury has put his hand up to play as well according to Dimma.
Premiership pair set to return for Tigers
By Callum Twomey
afl.com.au
17 September 2020
RICHMOND is set to welcome back premiership pair Shane Edwards and David Astbury for a pre-finals tune-up in Saturday's clash with Adelaide.
Edwards has completed his quarantine period in Queensland and rejoined the Tigers group in recent days and will come in for his first game since round five, while Astbury featured in last week's scrimmage game after battling a persistent knee injury since June.
But with the Tigers needing to beat the Crows to ensure a top-four finish, the duo is expected to return for the trip to Adelaide Oval.
"Shane Edwards trained strongly today and Dave Astbury trained strongly, and Dion Prestia joined in some training as well," coach Damien Hardwick said on Thursday.
"The first two have put their hands up to play, but it was a really strong session from all those guys and we've got some players who are coming back which is really important for us."
The Tigers, meanwhile, are still weighing up how they cover the loss of Ivan Soldo, who went down with a ruptured ACL and medial ligament last week.
Mabior Chol will return to the senior side, while Hardwick raised possible first-gamer Ben Miller, as well as premiership Tigers Nathan Broad and Josh Caddy, as potential replacements.
https://www.afl.com.au/news/507596/premiership-pair-set-to-return-for-tigers-stars-on-track-for-first-final
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So, we are thinking:-
Outs
Shai, Ivvy and Lynch
Ins
Cholly, Shedda and Astbury?
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SEN just said Richmond has confirmed Astbury will play this week. So along with Sheds and Chol that's at least 3 ins.
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Tell you what, providing we win well and have no injuries - there’s going to be some unlucky young men missing the first final.
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So, we are thinking:-
Outs
Shai, Ivvy and Lynch
Ins
Cholly, Shedda and Astbury?
yep exactly,
most players spots are on notice, which is a good position to be in.
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So, we are thinking:-
Outs
Shai, Ivvy and Lynch
Ins
Cholly, Shedda and Astbury?
Astbury will have to replace a defender so Markov looks the likely out. Reckon Caddy comes in for Lynch.
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Asbury a good match up for the lumbering Walker if he plays, Balta to Himmleburg, Grimes to Lynch
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Would be a shame for Markov to make way but can understand why. Should Miller get a game it would be a remarkable advancement as he didn't look like it at all last season in the VFL.
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Astbury for Markov is a hell of a drop in pace... :shh
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Astbury for Markov is a hell of a drop in pace... :shh
I see Markov staying in.When need the 2 key backs going into finals Dave takes the monster forwards and Balta second tall and Grimes small or medium and 3rd man up.
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Outs: Soldo. Lynch. Aarts. Bolton.
Pickett (not convinced)
Ins: Chol. Astbury. Edwards. Collier-Dawkins. :rollin
Caddy (hopeful) he is a finals beast hasn’t let us down yet.
It’s time we had a look at RCD :shh
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No chance Pickett gets dropped.
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No way Aarts gets dropped IMO
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Sounds like it's going to be a wet weather footy game. We don't want to go in too tall if that's the case.
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Adelaide forecast - Saturday
Min 17
Max 21
Rain. Possible storm.
Possible rainfall: 6 to 20 mm
Chance of any rain: 95%
Adelaide area
Cloudy. Very high (95%) chance of rain, most likely in the morning and afternoon. The chance of a thunderstorm in the morning and afternoon. Winds northeast to southeasterly 15 to 25 km/h becoming northeasterly 25 to 35 km/h early in the morning then turning northwesterly 15 to 25 km/h in the early afternoon.
http://www.bom.gov.au/sa/forecasts/adelaide.shtml
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Good, because we are wet weather specialists.
Would prefer Broad over Astbury though if it's wet. But I understand Dave needs a run.
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If I was guessing I would say
Outs - Soldo, Lynch, Bolton, Ross (sorry Jack) or Markov. Would both be incredibly stiff.
In, Chol, Astbury, Edwards, Caddy
Reckon we need some extra goal kicking power with Lynch out, Caddy good if it's wet.
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Ross was good. Happy for him to play in the wet.
Hard for Caddy to get back in at the moment. Broad too. Great depth!
If you had told me guys like Soldo would be premiership players I'd have laughed. Now Markov is a chance too.
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Markov flew with the team to Adelaide.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EiLKLcMU4AUZ1TA?format=jpg)
https://twitter.com/Richmond_FC/status/1306829160065556481
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When do the teams get announced?