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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: one-eyed on October 12, 2021, 03:47:52 PM
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Garry Lyon was intrigued by Blair Hartley's comments about Tom Green.
Watch here: https://twitter.com/SENBreakfast/status/1447782328424488960
Lyon: "Have you ever made enquiries to the Giants about Tom Green?"
Hartley: "Ah, no not directly. He's contracted up there so I've got to be very careful talking about contracted players. I know he's very happy although his family is strongly connected with Richmond. We've got to respect that he is contracted and where he is right now."
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Nothing interesting about that
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The noise has started..... :shh
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This could be the reason that 1. we are saying our TPP are maxed out (because we have brought forward current contracts or signed new contracts with larger up front payments) and 2 we are going to take our picks to the draft (new kids are on minimum contracts for two years.
Big play next year
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MEETING BETWEEN RICHMOND CEO AND GRANDFATHER OF TOM GREEN RAISES EYEBROWS
BY SEN
30 March 2022
Richmond CEO Brendon Gale has been spotted meeting with four-time premiership player Michael Green, who also happens to be the grandfather of gun GWS Giants on-baller Tom Green.
Tom is out of contract at the Giants at the end of 2023 and his family connection to the Tigers has long fuelled speculation he could one day don the yellow and black.
Speaking on Sportsday, Sam McClure said he was told this week that Gale had met with Tom’s grandfather Michael at a Melbourne cafe, something which caught the eye of a few people.
“It was put to me today that Brendon Gale was having lunch with Michael Green, who is of course a four-time premiership ruckman and the grandfather of GWS midfielder Tom.
“He’s out of contract (at the end of 2023) isn’t he? The Giants need to get one of these midfielders (because of salary cap issues).”
“That makes me very happy inside,” Richmond great Matthew Richardson added.
The 21-year-old has started the 2022 season in fine form, averaging 32.5 touches and 5.5 marks so far this year.
Gerard Healy said Green could even be used as a forward, floating the possibly of switching forward Harry Himmelberg to defence to accommodate the change.
“He was a boy last year and now he’s a man,” he said.
“He could play out of the goal square easily, in fact they should put Harry Himmelberg to centre half-back and put Tom Green out of the goal square.”
https://www.sen.com.au/news/2022/03/30/meeting-between-richmond-ceo-and-grandfather-of-tom-green-raises-eyebrows/
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I'm not sure Toms grandad is deciding his future. Pure coincidence I'd say
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MEETING BETWEEN RICHMOND CEO AND GRANDFATHER OF TOM GREEN RAISES EYEBROWS
BY SEN
30 March 2022
Richmond CEO Brendon Gale has been spotted meeting with four-time premiership player Michael Green, who also happens to be the grandfather of gun GWS Giants on-baller Tom Green.
Tom is out of contract at the Giants at the end of 2023 and his family connection to the Tigers has long fuelled speculation he could one day don the yellow and black.
Speaking on Sportsday, Sam McClure said he was told this week that Gale had met with Tom’s grandfather Michael at a Melbourne cafe, something which caught the eye of a few people.
“It was put to me today that Brendon Gale was having lunch with Michael Green, who is of course a four-time premiership ruckman and the grandfather of GWS midfielder Tom.
“He’s out of contract (at the end of 2023) isn’t he? The Giants need to get one of these midfielders (because of salary cap issues).”
“That makes me very happy inside,” Richmond great Matthew Richardson added.
The 21-year-old has started the 2022 season in fine form, averaging 32.5 touches and 5.5 marks so far this year.
Gerard Healy said Green could even be used as a forward, floating the possibly of switching forward Harry Himmelberg to defence to accommodate the change.
“He was a boy last year and now he’s a man,” he said.
“He could play out of the goal square easily, in fact they should put Harry Himmelberg to centre half-back and put Tom Green out of the goal square.”
https://www.sen.com.au/news/2022/03/30/meeting-between-richmond-ceo-and-grandfather-of-tom-green-raises-eyebrows/
McClure is a grub. He cleaned his act up for a while but seems like now he is looking to replace Tommy Morris at Fox and hence acting accordingly. stuffwit
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Kid will be so expensive when the time comes.
Should have tried sooner before he had so many runs on the board
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As much as I'd like Green here right now, the sensible thing to do would be to stay patient, hit the draft hard again this year (KPF's & Mids please) then get Green & an FA or two at the end of next year... :shh
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Another piece of grubby journalism
Trying to make a story out of a cup of coffee :wallywink
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Well the club is definitely into Green.....whether or not that cup of coffee has anything to do with it is another matter entirely... :shh
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Hes a good young player but I dont think hes as good as many of our supporters make out. Lacks leg speed is just one issue.
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Well the club is definitely into Green.....whether or not that cup of coffee has anything to do with it is another matter entirely... :shh
I am sure our Club like many others are looking at Tom Green
But to link Benny Gale having coffee with Michael Green as some sort recruiting exercise is grubby
Michael Green is a legend of our club, a bloke of great integrity and very well respected. He deserves better than some journo grasping at lattes to generate a stroy
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Twomey expects the Giants to keep hold of emerging young midfielder Tom Green.
“He (Green) has got another year to go on his contract,” he said.
“As I said before, contracts don’t always mean anything if club and player are happy to move, but I don’t see them moving him at this point.”
Source: SEN (https://www.sen.com.au/news/2022/03/30/clubs-expected-to-come-very-hard-for-giants-midfielder/)
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Trade watch: Big three clubs in rush for signatures
Collingwood is working busily to make sure it keeps a number of its rising stars locked away, while St Kilda needs to tie down a key prime mover and Richmond looks to welcome back a giant.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/card_img/1509730417897017346/VmqpuJey?format=jpg&name=small)
Paywall: https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/news/afl-trades-2022-all-the-latest-news-surrounding-club-signings/news-story/d8283b70077b3eaa86f50ea6ad61cfa1
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(https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/attachments/1648843880414-png.1361115/)
https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/news/afl-trades-2022-all-the-latest-news-surrounding-club-signings/news-story/d8283b70077b3eaa86f50ea6ad61cfa1
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29 possies, 7 clearances, 600m gained and 2 goals today.
Gladly have Green at Tigerland next year as he clearly suits a need but the price will be possibly too high for a trade if he keeps this form up. We would have to wait instead until he's a free agent.
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Number 1 target.
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I would imagine we would have some money in the bank next year
1. Prestia retires
2. Cotchin retires
3. Riewoldt retires
4. Edwards retires
5. Renegotiate Tom Lynch
6. Dusty retires
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Only way Green gets to Richmond is if Dusty asks to play in Sydney and we agree and he goes to GWS for Green and a 1st round pick imho.
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Only way Green gets to Richmond is if Dusty asks to play in Sydney and we agree and he goes to GWS for Green and a 1st round pick imho.
Like it :thumbsup
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Yep and Yep (if of course Martin wants to get out of the Melbourne media bubble!!).
And given Martin's resume to date, GWS would have to get a little bit more than that imho!
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** give, not get.... :o
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Martin cant leave cheap. Itll take Green and a 1st rounder to get it done.
That will mean 3 picks inside 20 plus Green. Not a bad haul the loss of Dusty would hurt but if he wants to go to sydney what do you do?
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Lol
Dusty will be 31? Won't be a 1st rounder coming back unless it's quite late, if that.
Got to be realistic. His best was 2017 and he has steadily declined since then, despite lifting for grand finals.
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He won’t go, his support is the RFC
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Unless Green has some deep love of Richmond due to his family, I don't see him wanting to leave to join a team at the end of its era and in need of a rebuild. We need him more than he needs us.
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Tom Green has famous Richmond blood, but his heart is set on western Sydney right now. He grew up a yellow and black fanatic and will always be linked to Punt Road, given his grandfather, Michael Green, played in four premierships and still has close connections to Tigerland.
But despite the trade buzz that will only grow louder next season – if he isn't re-signed beyond 2023 sooner rather than later – Green embraces the speculation, much like they do in the NBA where player movement is far more fluid and controversial.
"The way I view it is if you're getting discussed like that it's only in a positive way because it means other teams want you, other fans want you because you're playing good football," he said.
"I think it sometimes gets forgotten that I am under contract all of this year and next year; people seem to think that I'm out of contract at the end of this year and I'm not sure why.
"There has been some stuff linked to Richmond, and I think that's always potentially going to be the case because of having my grandfather there and being such an avid Richmond supporter when I was growing up.
"I suppose the way I view it is it means you're playing good footy and other teams want you. I'm contracted for this year and next year and I absolutely love being here, which is something not encouraging for Richmond fans to hear, I guess."
https://www.afl.com.au/featured/736262/-i-can-dominate-this-level-young-giant-s-plan-for-greatness
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So, he's a lock then?
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"There has been some stuff linked to Richmond, and I think that's always potentially going to be the case because of having my grandfather there and being such an avid Richmond supporter when I was growing up.
https://www.afl.com.au/featured/736262/-i-can-dominate-this-level-young-giant-s-plan-for-greatness
I read: Love to go to Richmond as my grandfather played there and I am a big Richmond supporter.
"I suppose the way I view it is it means you're playing good footy and other teams want you. I'm contracted for this year and next year and I absolutely love being here, which is something not encouraging for Richmond fans to hear, I guess."
https://www.afl.com.au/featured/736262/-i-can-dominate-this-level-young-giant-s-plan-for-greatness
I read: I am contracted for this year and next year and love being at GWS so it will take a big offer to get me to move this year. I am a Richmond supporter so I know this position is not encouraging for Richmond fans at this point but just be patient.
;D
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If it's left to next year when Green is a free agent what would GWS receive as compo? That may determine if GWS is willing to trade him this year as a pre-agent. If they can get more from him this year then they may be willing to let him go if they think he will leave anyway as a free agent.
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Don't think he's a RFA for a while?
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Yep.. RFA is after eight years... he's only in his third... :shh
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Straight swap for Dusty?
Once the one eyed supporters take their glasses off it's probably a reasonable deal.
Dusty has 2 years to go on $1mil or more and hasn't looked all that amazing.
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Green's a Tiger fanboi ...he'd probably want to play at least one season with him... :shh
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Straight swap for Dusty?
Once the one eyed supporters take their glasses off it's probably a reasonable deal.
Dusty has 2 years to go on $1mil or more and hasn't looked all that amazing.
Yeah I’ll be keeping my glasses on thanks.
Imagine begrudging people for not wanting to see one of if not the greatest tiger of them all play for another club just to ever so slightly fast forward a rebuild by getting one player in return.
Just some of his accomplishments since his supposed decline since 2017:
2018: All-Australian Centre, 6th in Brownlow (1st out of RFC players), 3rd in BnF, 3rd leading goal kicker.
2019: Premiership, Norm Smith Medal, Gary Ayres Medal, All-Australian Squad, 6th in Brownlow (1st out of RFC players), 6th in BnF, 2nd leading goal kicker.
2020: Premiership, Norm Smith Medal, Gary Ayres Medal, All-Australian Fwd Pocket, 5th in Brownlow (1st out of RFC players), 2nd in BnF, 3rd leading goal kicker.
2021 (missed more than 1/4 of season): 25th in brownlow medal (1st for RFC players), 5th in BnF, 4th leading goal kicker.
The way I see it he could never play another game again and the salary we pay him wouldn’t even scratch the surface of paying back the services he’s provided for the club.
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Straight swap for Dusty?
Once the one eyed supporters take their glasses off it's probably a reasonable deal.
Dusty has 2 years to go on $1mil or more and hasn't looked all that amazing.
Yeah I’ll be keeping my glasses on thanks.
Imagine begrudging people for not wanting to see one of if not the greatest tiger of them all play for another club just to ever so slightly fast forward a rebuild by getting one player in return.
Just some of his accomplishments since his supposed decline since 2017:
2018: All-Australian Centre, 6th in Brownlow (1st out of RFC players), 3rd in BnF, 3rd leading goal kicker.
2019: Premiership, Norm Smith Medal, Gary Ayres Medal, All-Australian Squad, 6th in Brownlow (1st out of RFC players), 6th in BnF, 2nd leading goal kicker.
2020: Premiership, Norm Smith Medal, Gary Ayres Medal, All-Australian Fwd Pocket, 5th in Brownlow (1st out of RFC players), 2nd in BnF, 3rd leading goal kicker.
2021 (missed more than 1/4 of season): 25th in brownlow medal (1st for RFC players), 5th in BnF, 4th leading goal kicker.
The way I see it he could never play another game again and the salary we pay him wouldn’t even scratch the surface of paying back the services he’s provided for the club.
I think you misunderstood me - I'm not begrudging anyone for anything.
The rumours of him moving to Sydney have been swirling and as I said in the Dusty thread given the media crap he gets here could you blame him for wanting a quieter life outside the fishbowl?
If he wanted to go, and this trade was on the table, I would consider it also because from a business perspective he has peaked and is on major coin - hence it would probably facilitate a rebuild of sorts. Hard to see that when you think like a fan is what I'm saying.
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Maybe I have misunderstood. Just seems like some of the comments on here on a few threads (may be from other posters) have been implying we should be packing his bags for him and shipping him off.
Of course if he wanted to move then that’s a different matter entirely. I don’t really buy it personally. Earlier in his career the move to nsw made sense as his dad was living up there. Whereas now the vast majority of his friends and family would be in VIC I would have thought.
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I think you're right.
Only thing that would appeal to him is the quiet life, but if he'd had a gut full I reckon he would just retire rather than request a trade.
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I don’t think he’s going. Other than the fact Dusty is Richmond through and through, the yellow and black #4 is a brand in itself. His off field earnings (and Ralph’s cut) would probably take a massive hit if he played for a different club
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Don't think he's a RFA for a while?
Doh! My bad. Keep forgetting how young he is :doh
Oh well, if he doesn't leave now we've got the next 5 years to rebuild and then pick him up as a RFA when we're back challenging again.
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I don’t think he’s going. Other than the fact Dusty is Richmond through and through, the yellow and black #4 is a brand in itself. His off field earnings (and Ralph’s cut) would probably take a massive hit if he played for a different club
Didn’t hurt Buddy’s brand
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I think what worked in franklin’s favour is he was still sub 200 games when he left so he still had it in him to add to the highlight reel. But I do see you it point. Even if we say look at someone like brereton who tried to keep going with Sydney and collingwood, he’s still heralded for his hawthorn innings.
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I think what worked in franklin’s favour is he was still sub 200 games when he left so he still had it in him to add to the highlight reel. But I do see you it point. Even if we say look at someone like brereton who tried to keep going with Sydney and collingwood, he’s still heralded for his hawthorn innings.
Carey Adelaide
Hawkins Fitzroy
Been plenty over the years .. Dusty will always be a tiger regardless of if he plays elsewhere
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I'm sure many here will be disappointed to hear this.
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Going nowhere: Giants lock in midfield bull on long-term deal
By Riley Beveridge - Just now
GREATER Western Sydney has secured a significant statement to kickstart the Adam Kingsley era, with gun midfielder Tom Green signing a fresh four-year contract extension on Friday.
Green has emerged as one of the side's most important players this pre-season, stepping seamlessly into the midfield vacancy created by last October's departure of Tim Taranto and Jacob Hopper.
The club has subsequently moved early to ensure Green's future in New South Wales, landing the supremely talented 22-year-old on a long-term deal that will see him remain at the Giants until at least 2027 and taking him through to his free agency year.
Full article
https://www.afl.com.au/news/876783/going-nowhere-giants-lock-in-midfield-bull-on-long-term-deal
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We are crowded at the moment and 4 years is not long to wait. He will be 26.
A premiership or two to TT and Hop and GWS continue to under perform then it is a chance then
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Once we signed Taranto and Hopper, Green was clearly not leaving GWS and coming to us.
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We are crowded at the moment and 4 years is not long to wait. He will be 26.
A premiership or two to TT and Hop and GWS continue to under perform then it is a chance then
You would hope that we have no need to go after Green i 4 yrs time. A novel idea lets draft some big mids and develop our own. you would hope by 2026 we have found three or four good ones at least.
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We are crowded at the moment and 4 years is not long to wait. He will be 26.
A premiership or two to TT and Hop and GWS continue to under perform then it is a chance then
You would hope that we have no need to go after Green i 4 yrs time. A novel idea lets draft some big mids and develop our own. you would hope by 2026 we have found three or four good ones at least.
Oh yeah like RCD haha.
The fact that we got TT & Hopper makes it quite clear that we tried with Green IMO and one or both of the club/player said no he's not the one that's going to make space.