Just a bit fun here. Why would we not take Ethan Phillips here if it was a key defender we wanted.His body of work was way in front of any tall defender playing vfl last year.
198CM PLAYER #1 in the comp for marks per game #1 for intercept possesions vfl team of the year etc just 23 as well.
Are we still taking best available or not.
Just a bit fun here. Why would we not take Ethan Phillips here if it was a key defender we wanted.His body of work was way in front of any tall defender playing vfl last year.
198CM PLAYER #1 in the comp for marks per game #1 for intercept possesions vfl team of the year etc just 23 as well.
Are we still taking best available or not.
Yeah but was he best available?? No way in the world. Youngs season was no where near Phillips.
Not that we desperately needed another key defender anyway.
No key forwards developing and only Jack Ross as a big mid in the two's.
It was pretty simple really, get a performing state league kpf like Kietel who kicked 70 goals in the wafl in 2021 or take a punt on an athletically gifted one like bradtke. Instead we could not look outside our own back door to take a type we don't really need who is not best available anyway
Just the other side of the coin here.
Yeah but was he best available?? No way in the world. Youngs season was no where near Phillips.
Not that we desperately needed another key defender anyway.
No key forwards developing and only Jack Ross as a big mid in the two's.
It was pretty simple really, get a performing state league kpf like Kietel who kicked 70 goals in the wafl in 2021 or take a punt on an athletically gifted one like bradtke. Instead we could not look outside our own back door to take a type we don't really need who is not best available anyway
Just the other side of the coin here.
Your kidding arent ya. Jack maybe solidly built but at just 181cm and 82kg he can hardly be decribed as a big mid.Yeah but was he best available?? No way in the world. Youngs season was no where near Phillips.
Not that we desperately needed another key defender anyway.
No key forwards developing and only Jack Ross as a big mid in the two's.
It was pretty simple really, get a performing state league kpf like Kietel who kicked 70 goals in the wafl in 2021 or take a punt on an athletically gifted one like bradtke. Instead we could not look outside our own back door to take a type we don't really need who is not best available anyway
Just the other side of the coin here.
Jack Graham will be a big body mid in the 2s next year now
Your kidding arent ya. Jack maybe solidly built but at just 181cm and 82kg he can hardly be decribed as a big mid.Yeah but was he best available?? No way in the world. Youngs season was no where near Phillips.
Not that we desperately needed another key defender anyway.
No key forwards developing and only Jack Ross as a big mid in the two's.
It was pretty simple really, get a performing state league kpf like Kietel who kicked 70 goals in the wafl in 2021 or take a punt on an athletically gifted one like bradtke. Instead we could not look outside our own back door to take a type we don't really need who is not best available anyway
Just the other side of the coin here.
Jack Graham will be a big body mid in the 2s next year now
Richmond rookie draftee Tylar Young’s off-beat path to the AFL
Tylar Young was drowning his sporting sorrows at his local when he was convinced to pick up a footy again. Four years later, he’s one of Richmond’s brightest prospects, writes SHANNON GILL.
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December 10, 2022
There’s wall-to-wall big screens in the front bar of the Star Hotel in Albury showing sport from the big smoke and around the world.
It has become the choice venue for sports fans on the Victoria/New South Wales border to watch the big moments, but it can also lay claim as the birthplace of an unlikely sporting story of its own.
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Umps weren't at fault, Tyler was puting his left hand on his oponent's shoulder to lever himself up to spoil with his right hand.
Why Tyler kept doing it is the question.
He will probably play round 1 because that's what we do
But from the small amount of the game I watched he is not ready for AFL IMHO
From memory, didn’t the player you’re referencing go undrafted?
Even if he did get drafted, let’s let this play out more than 1 meaningless praccy game shall we.
If they debut him we will just have to see if he sinks or swims I guess.
Regardless I am glad we have at least taken talls in Young and Bradtke.
Question though - why not Biggie? He's entering what his fourth year on the list? You'd think he would be much better placed than a rookie with one pre-season under his belt.
Miller will have to play stuff or backline backup surely.
From memory, didn’t the player you’re referencing go undrafted?
Even if he did get drafted, let’s let this play out more than 1 meaningless praccy game shall we.
Yes he did and it happens all the time, good players left to rot in the vfl
Point being made Phillips simply ticked more boxes and looked like he had better attributes to play afl footy.
He may never get on a list and that would be a shame because if Young is worthy of a try Phillips is too.
From memory, didn’t the player you’re referencing go undrafted?
Even if he did get drafted, let’s let this play out more than 1 meaningless praccy game shall we.
Yes he did and it happens all the time, good players left to rot in the vfl
Point being made Phillips simply ticked more boxes and looked like he had better attributes to play afl footy.
He may never get on a list and that would be a shame because if Young is worthy of a try Phillips is too.
Maybe so but there’s just as many cases of players from state leagues who ‘tick all the boxes’ that come into the AFL and don’t show anything at all and are straight back to the state leagues in 2-3 seasons.
Young won't be debuting this week according to Dimma. Dimma was asked about Tylar playing and Dimma replied "probably not".RICHMOND coach Damien Hardwick has all but ruled out a debut for mature-age recruit Tylar Young as he ponders the best way to battle Carlton’s twin towers of Charlie Curnow and Harry McKay in Thursday night’s blockbuster AFL season opener.
WP you rate him ?I know zip about him so I can’t comment.
Best of luck to Tylar :clapping.
The injury last week looked quite bad when he went down and he was carried off by the trainers. Thankfully, it looked worse than it actually was, and he has recovered quickly.
Don't think he will get Walker. He will get one of the others like Himmelberg.
Balta -> Walker
Young -> Himmelberg
Grimes/Broad -> Fogarty
Grimes and Broad are too small to play on 2m tall 99kg Himmelberg though. Like you say Miller would've been the choice if he wasn't dropped.Best of luck to Tylar :clapping.
The injury last week looked quite bad when he went down and he was carried off by the trainers. Thankfully, it looked worse than it actually was, and he has recovered quickly.
Don't think he will get Walker. He will get one of the others like Himmelberg.
Balta -> Walker
Young -> Himmelberg
Grimes/Broad -> Fogarty
Grimes and Broad would get monstered by foggarty IMO. Reckon Young should go to him. Would have made sense to play Miller on H but oh well
They may well be needed for Thilthorpe if he comes in to their team as well, who gets him?Best of luck to Tylar :clapping.
The injury last week looked quite bad when he went down and he was carried off by the trainers. Thankfully, it looked worse than it actually was, and he has recovered quickly.
Don't think he will get Walker. He will get one of the others like Himmelberg.
Balta -> Walker
Young -> Himmelberg
Grimes/Broad -> Fogarty
Grimes and Broad would get monstered by foggarty IMO. Reckon Young should go to him. Would have made sense to play Miller on H but oh well
He was OK
Struggled with the pace of the game a bit which meant he either second guessed himself on what to do when the heat was on or he just stood flat footed
There was one kick in the 3rd that stood out when he kicked it to the wing. He looked great in that passage
With Broad about to be rubbed out he will play next week but will confess the Pies manic pace and pressure is going to test him big time
I was clearly wrong about this bloke. Exceeding my expectations thus far. He really has been pretty consistent without being flashy. Just does his job which is all he needs to do.
I was clearly wrong about this bloke. Exceeding my expectations thus far. He really has been pretty consistent without being flashy. Just does his job which is all he needs to do.
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Though I would like to see him clunk a few marks when he has the opportunity rather than the punch all of the time
I was clearly wrong about this bloke. Exceeding my expectations thus far. He really has been pretty consistent without being flashy. Just does his job which is all he needs to do.
What the hell has Rutten done to him. He poos himself in every contest now and either turns it over or gives away a free kick
:facepalm :facepalm :facepalmMistakes yes he makes a few. People forget this guy has played less than 10 games ( I think, haven't done a count). I'll give him time.
I'll give him time.
Never know, that might end up being the case. I'm not saying he is the next Rance but it pays to remember how he was rated in his first 10 games.I'll give him time.
Yes - two years in the VFL..... :shh
Also quotes should include the whole quote to keep context.
:facepalm :facepalm :facepalmMistakes yes he makes a few. People forget this guy has played less than 10 games ( I think, haven't done a count). I'll give him time.
Once it hits the ground though...Remember Rance and Grimes when they first started?
Once it hits the ground though...Remember Rance and Grimes when they first started?
He has been horrid and ordinary just shows stats by themselves are useless.
For the record i thought Rance very early on ordinary in one v ones especially when he had to just stand and defend one v one.
Of course that improved but i still dont think it was his greatest asset.
I watched a fair bit of him as a colts player at swan districts and his movement over the ground always stood out. Reckon often he struggled when stationary but was unbeatable when in motion.
Grimes was great defending, but it took him forever to start taking intercept marks and contested marks. All he did for a couple of years was master the spoilOnce it hits the ground though...Remember Rance and Grimes when they first started?
Thought Grimes was great from the get go myself.
Rance poor by foot but considerably more combative at ground level.
Thought to tonight was his best game yet and tough opposition. Maybe he will continue to improve with some confidence.
Great game by the kid. Young won the battle tonight. Clear winner.
He's 24 so not exactly a kid. :shh
Bleak future if this bloke's a highlight. :shh
Id love to see the yaysers tell me what outstanding attributes he has.
Keep don't keep it has to based on some substance. He has one redeeming feature and as a defender you hope all defenders have it he has an ability to get a fist in to spoil. Thats his outstanding feature.
Just don't see any thing else in him that stands out. This bloke while inexperienced is not a kid will be 25 next and should be near the top of his game. Really hope im wrong but we are looking for A grade defenders moving fwd to build a team around and he will never get anywhere near it.
I think the bottom line here is about actually rebuilding and blokes like Young atm are stop gaps plugging the holes hoping we don't bottom out. His spot should be going to a talented kid. Trouble with that is we only have one kid and he is actually required.The result is we wallow in mediocrity.
Again was our best key defender back there today. Our defence, both as a team and a back 6 needs do much work it’s not funny.
Again was our best key defender back there today. Our defence, both as a team and a back 6 needs do much work it’s not funny.
Larkey kicked 6 so I'm not sure he was our best defender. But I reckon he would learnt a lot today
His improvement from the first half of the year has been remarkable TBH.
Our biggest issue done back continues to be Grkmes
Again was our best key defender back there today. Our defence, both as a team and a back 6 needs do much work it’s not funny.
Larkey kicked 6 so I'm not sure he was our best defender. But I reckon he would learnt a lot today
His improvement from the first half of the year has been remarkable TBH.
Our biggest issue done back continues to be Grkmes
Him & Balta together were like Laurel & Hardy - once they were separated they both started to think for themselves... :shh
Would have to be the worse KPD running around
DioDUD:thumbsdown :thumbsdown :thumbsdown :thumbsdown
He is softer than a soccer player in the Italian league. Him and Short need to go. I don't give a stuff if we have to play a little leaguer instead of him. He stinks worse than the Werribee sewerage farm.Soccer players not just in Italy but all over are not soft. They are just cheats. They do what they do to stall, stop the game. It's tactical softness and I hate it. Can't stand it to be honest.
He is softer than a soccer player in the Italian league. Him and Short need to go. I don't give a stuff if we have to play a little leaguer instead of him. He stinks worse than the Werribee sewerage farm.Soccer players not just in Italy but all over are not soft. They are just cheats. They do what they do to stall, stop the game. It's tactical softness and I hate it. Can't stand it to be honest.
Anyway I'm showing as many Italians as possible what real football is. And yes I show them footage of our glory days not current team. They all think we are nuts.
I keep telling them , soccer is a sissy version of football.
You still don't get it.and you never will.He is softer than a soccer player in the Italian league. Him and Short need to go. I don't give a stuff if we have to play a little leaguer instead of him. He stinks worse than the Werribee sewerage farm.Soccer players not just in Italy but all over are not soft. They are just cheats. They do what they do to stall, stop the game. It's tactical softness and I hate it. Can't stand it to be honest.
Anyway I'm showing as many Italians as possible what real football is. And yes I show them footage of our glory days not current team. They all think we are nuts.
I keep telling them , soccer is a sissy version of football.
Italian footballers are diving rolling sooks
https://youtu.be/Rh2KLm4DpXE?si=2USYzEXuRhml7iIQ
Embarrassments to themselves and their country
Losers
You still don't get it.and you never will.He is softer than a soccer player in the Italian league. Him and Short need to go. I don't give a stuff if we have to play a little leaguer instead of him. He stinks worse than the Werribee sewerage farm.Soccer players not just in Italy but all over are not soft. They are just cheats. They do what they do to stall, stop the game. It's tactical softness and I hate it. Can't stand it to be honest.
Anyway I'm showing as many Italians as possible what real football is. And yes I show them footage of our glory days not current team. They all think we are nuts.
I keep telling them , soccer is a sissy version of football.
Italian footballers are diving rolling sooks
https://youtu.be/Rh2KLm4DpXE?si=2USYzEXuRhml7iIQ
Embarrassments to themselves and their country
Losers
Anyway Italy played Australia recently in rugby
How did that fair?
Bait me as much as you want, but seriously, seek help.
Suspected ACL they are saying
Looked a brazillion times better with Balta back there instead of Young
Difficult one as Kosi played his best game so far when moved to defence. I think we continue with Ryan but we certainly need another tall forward option.
Only VFL but Kosi looked far better down back yesterday than Young has at any point this year.... :shhKosi played in defence all his junior years . Maybe that's his natural position
Dawks supporters reckon he was shyte down there and he's best games were when he rucked.......so who knows...... :shhNever realised hawk supporters watched Kosi play in his junior days
Okay. Not sure why we need to do this.
Okay. Not sure why we need to do this.
Okay. Not sure why we need to do this.
because we had 7 Cat A rookies which is 1 too many.
We now have 28 on main list which enables us to take 8 at the draft
Okay. Not sure why we need to do this.
because we had 7 Cat A rookies which is 1 too many.
We now have 28 on main list which enables us to take 8 at the draft
Spot on. Seems like a strange decision given where he is at
But why Young?
I would have promoted Campbell or Blight ahead of Young
Okay. Not sure why we need to do this.
because we had 7 Cat A rookies which is 1 too many.
We now have 28 on main list which enables us to take 8 at the draft
But why Young?
I would have promoted Campbell or Blight ahead of Young
Okay. Not sure why we need to do this.
because we had 7 Cat A rookies which is 1 too many.
We now have 28 on main list which enables us to take 8 at the draft
But why Young?
I would have promoted Campbell or Blight ahead of Young
no idea, I thought it may have been Seth
BTW, Young has played more AFL games that the 2 you mention combined , not sure why you or anyone else finds them that good TBH
Okay. Not sure why we need to do this.
because we had 7 Cat A rookies which is 1 too many.
We now have 28 on main list which enables us to take 8 at the draft
But why Young?
I would have promoted Campbell or Blight ahead of Young
no idea, I thought it may have been Seth
BTW, Young has played more AFL games that the 2 you mention combined , not sure why you or anyone else finds them that good TBH
You could argue Campbell potentially, but blight? He’s been at the club 6 months and played 3 games. For all Young’s faults, he’s certainly ahead of blight on the pecking order and that’s no fault on blight, he just hasn’t had the game time yet.
Okay. Not sure why we need to do this.
because we had 7 Cat A rookies which is 1 too many.
We now have 28 on main list which enables us to take 8 at the draft
Spot on. Seems like a strange decision given where he is at
But why Young?
I would have promoted Campbell or Blight ahead of Young