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A few father-son prospects are among the top names for 2024.
https://www.zerohanger.com/the-eight-best-afl-draft-prospects-for-2024-145854/
Ashcroft (Brisbane F/S)
Lombard (Gold Coast Academy)
Welsh (Adelaide F/S)
Camporeale (Carlton F/S .... one of the twins)
Shows why we loaded up on pics/points for next year's draft. Other clubs will come knocking.
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When the National Academy Camp in December gets underway, Richmond will be one of the first clubs in line to interview tall midfielder Josh Smillie who’ll play his footy for the Eastern Rangers and Vic Metro this year.
Q. Do we face some sort of link to him?
Clubs will interview between 50-100 players so it isn’t something to really take seriously.
https://twitter.com/jamesdevennn/status/1728262386447241339
194cm "rover" :o according to the Eastern Ranges website.
https://easternrangesfc.com.au/teams/2023-coates-talent-league-boys/josh-smillie
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Eye on the future: 10 draft prospects to watch in 2024
By Callum Twomey
afl.com.au
25 November 2023
After the national and rookie drafts were completed this week, it will not take long for clubs to narrow their focus on the 2024 draft crop.
This year already saw a stack of impressive types get to strut their stuff as bottom-agers, meaning a number have established their credentials as early picks before their draft seasons commence.
AFL.com.au releases its list of the 10 prospects to watch for the following draft annually after that year's draft, with the 2024 list (in alphabetical order) below. Keep track of these names.
Sid Draper
Midfielder
180cm/72kg
5/7/06
South Adelaide/South Australia
A super season for Draper saw him named South Australia's MVP at the under-18 carnival, be picked as a part of the All-Australian team, win the best afield medal for South Adelaide's under-18 Grand Final victory and then be given the AFL life members scholarship. The hard-at-it midfielder looks to Brisbane gun Lachie Neale as his footy idol, hoping to use his clean hands and smart play to get his side going. He also experienced the senior level with South Adelaide in the SANFL and impressed, with his consistency a key factor in his game. The younger brother of Arlo Draper, who was delisted by the Magpies this year.
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Tom Gross
Midfielder/forward
181cm/70kg
15/9/06
Oakleigh Chargers/Vic Metro
With a tenacious and tough approach, there is a bit of Rory Sloane in the way Gross attacks his game. He spent this season with the Chargers as a forward/midfielder, kicking nearly a goal a game, including a couple of big games late in the Coates Talent League campaign. He has a bit of a rugged nature to his play that sees him throw himself into contests and come out the other side with the ball.
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Kade Herbert
Midfielder
183cm/76kg
3/4/06
Woodville-West Torrens/South Australia
Herbert was able to get some good experiences under his belt through 2023, including getting a taste of senior football at the Eagles. For his state he played in the midfield for the under-18s side, with his versatility to roll through the wing, midfield and forward line among his strengths.
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Kade Herbert in action during the U18 National Championships match between South Australia and the Allies at Thebarton Oval on June 4, 2023. Picture: AFL Photos
Sam Lalor
Midfielder
187cm/88kg
30/8/06
Greater Western Victoria Rebels/Vic Country
Lalor is a talented cricketer and footballer, with his football traits on display in recent years for the Rebels and also in the Vic Country program. The stronger-bodied prospect is a bit taller than some of his midfield contemporaries and he can also go through the forward line. He has some power to get out of stoppages and get the ball out to his teammates. Lalor has been a part of Cricket Victoria's elite junior programs as well to claim All-Australian honours.
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Sam Lalor looks to break a tackle during the U18 National Championships match between Vic Country and WA at the WACA on June 30, 2023. Picture: AFL Photos
Christian Moraes
Midfielder
182cm/74kg
8/11/06
Eastern Ranges/Vic Metro
Moraes just kept on playing well and getting better in 2023. The Eastern Ranges product played 16 games this season and showed his smooth-moving capabilities through the middle, averaging 26 disposals a game. His classy skills were on show right through the Ranges' finals series, with Moraes averaging 27 disposals in four finals games and having 24 touches and a goal in the Grand Final defeat. Looks among the best midfield candidates to start 2024.
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Finn O'Sullivan
Midfielder
182cm/70kg
30/5/06
Oakleigh Chargers/Vic Country
Another midfielder who will start next year in contention for the No.1 pick. O'Sullivan is a gun – he is tough, consistent, can mark overhead strongly for his size and has a nice blend to his game. O'Sullivan is a second cousin of Carlton star Sam Walsh and plays in a similar manner to the star Blue, regularly dominating games and standing up at key moments. O'Sullivan boards at Xavier College in Melbourne but plays for Vic Country, where he featured this year at under-18 level.
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Josh Smillie
Midfielder
194cm/92kg
17/5/06
Eastern Ranges/Vic Metro
The tall midfielder of the top end of the draft. Smillie is a contested, big-bodied midfielder from the Ranges who also featured for Vic Metro at the under-18 carnival. The 17-year-old looms as a top-five pick candidate given his size and dominance around the ball, having averaged 26 disposals for the Ranges this season before injury cut short his campaign. He had three games of 30 or more disposals for Eastern and should be a dominant player next year.
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Josh Smillie in action during the AFL Futures match between Team Naitanui and Team Selwood at the MCG on September 30, 2023. Picture: AFL Photos
Jagga Smith
Midfielder
181cm/70kg
28/1/06
Oakleigh Chargers/Vic Metro
Smith is a ball magnet – he has shown that at every level he's played and he continues to do the same. The midfielder just knows where to be to get it in his hands and he averaged 30 disposals for the Chargers this season in 10 games. He was a standout against the Eastern Ranges in the Chargers' elimination final with 26 disposals and a goal and five inside-50s and was also consistent for Vic Metro at the carnival. The moves of Jagga make him hard to catch, regularly twisting and turning past opponents with the ball in his hands.
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Jagga Smith handballs during the U18 National Championships match between Vic Metro and Vic Country at Ikon Park on June 16, 2023. Picture: AFL Photos
Levi Ashcroft - Brisbane F/S
Tyler Welsh - Adelaide F/S
https://www.afl.com.au/news/1059777/eye-on-the-future-10-draft-prospects-to-watch-in-2024
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So stuff all quality kpp's next year again by the looks of that.... :shh
Isn't Jason Torney's kid supposed to be highly rated? :huh
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The top 2024 draft prospects training at your club this off-season
By Callum Twomey
afl.com.au
5 December 2023
The leading prospects of next year's draft class will get a chance to show their wares at the top level with training stints at AFL clubs.
As part of the AFL Academy program, the 2024 draft hopefuls have been allocated to AFL clubs to train with over the pre-season to give them an insight into the weekly structure and demands of an elite program.
While training weeks may differ, with some to commence blocks in January, most of the players will be having their training experience next week following the AFL Academy's camp in Melbourne.
Who is training at your club?
Richmond: Tom Gross, Jagga Smith
Adelaide: Sid Draper, Tyler Welsh
Brisbane: Levi Ashcroft, Sam Marshall
Carlton: Ben Camporeale, Lucas Camporeale
Essendon: Jobe Shanahan, Archer Day-Wicks
Fremantle: Bo Allan
Gold Coast: Leo Lombard
Geelong: Jonty Faull
Hawthorn: Xavier Lindsay, Josh Smillie
Melbourne: Harvey Langford
North Melbourne: Finn O'Sullivan
Sydney: Joel Cochran
West Coast: Malakai Champion
Western Bulldogs: Sam Lalor
https://www.afl.com.au/news/1070752/the-top-draft-prospects-training-at-your-club-this-off-season-2024-levi-ashcroft-tyler-welsh-finn-osullivan
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Tom Gross
Position: Midfielder
Height: 180cm
Weight: 70kg
D.O.B: 15-09-2006
Leagues: AFL U18 Championships, Coates Talent League Boys (Oakleigh Chargers)
VIDEOS:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MHJvCjN0nCc
https://www.afl.com.au/video/1059856/eye-on-2024-rugged-ball-winner-in-the-mould-of-star-crow?videoId=1059856&modal=true&type=video&publishFrom=1696212669001
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Jagga Smith
Position: Inside Midfielder
Height: 181cm
Weight: 68kg
D.O.B: 28-01-2006
Leagues: AFL U18 Championships, Coates Talent League Boys (Oakleigh Chargers)
VIDEOS:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GQkMh1ga-uM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jV6Cx7apqwg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vx3V-vaZGU8
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Way-too-early AFL Draft Power Rankings: The top 10 in 2024
Jasper Chellappah
ESPN
Nov 27, 2023
1. Jagga Smith
2. Finn O'Sullivan
3. Josh Smillie
4. Levi Ashcroft
5. Christian Moraes
6. Sid Draper
7. Tyler Welsh
8. Ben Camporeale
9. Sam Lalor
10. Leonardo Lombard
In the mix:
Ben's twin brother Lucas Camporeale is an outside midfielder who's also played across all three lines and has similarly smooth evasiveness. Noah Mraz may be Victoria's best tall prospect with the key defender an impressive athlete at 197cm - he can also pinch-hit in the ruck. WA talent Bo Allan and explosive Charger Tom Gross are the midfielders next in line, though Allan looked at home off halfback on the MCG. There's also exciting small forwards with Subiaco goalsneak Malakai Champion and Essendon NGA livewire Isaac Kako showing brilliant goal nous in their bottom-age campaigns.
https://www.espn.com.au/afl/story/_/id/38972081/afl-draft-2024-top-10-way-too-early-power-rankings-jagga-smith-levi-ashcroft-tyler-welsh-ben-camporeale
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Pics from the 2024 AFL National Academy Boys Training Session at Whitten Oval on December 08, 2023.
Jagga Smith
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Tom Gross
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https://www.aflphotos.com.au/asset/45874136?index=0&keyword=Tom%20Gross&competition=&team=&season=&round=&contentType=&fromDate=&toDate=&sort=Recent&pg=3
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Leonardo Lombard sounds like an Italian duke.... :shh
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Jagga Smith has made an impression on many people at Punt Road, and if the Tigers' season takes an unforeseen turn for the worst, Richmond may find a way to take him.
With his work rate and outside class, Tom Gross has also drawn attention from a few.
#GoTiges
https://twitter.com/jamesdevennn/status/1737368848507220300
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So we run dead next year by playing mostly kids.
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So we run dead next year by playing mostly kids.
Knowing our luck the kids will lead us to a flag and we'll miss out on all the good picks...... :banghead
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https://central.rookieme.com/afl/2024/01/09/profiled-2024-vic-metro-talent-hub/
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Purely based on needs and at this early stage - Armstrong & Ludowyke appear the stand outs for us...Trainor & O'Farrell at the other end of the ground- of course these kids don't always stay at the same end they played as juniors or even early on in the AFL .... Smillie the midfielder sounds like an exciting Tom Green type and is listed as taller than all of the aforementioned bar O'Farrell....the only other "tall forward" is KB's grandson- listed at only 190cm atm but most of these kids are still growing... :shh
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24 in 2024: A look ahead to next year’s top prospects
Michael Alvaro
central.rookieme.com
Finn O’Sullivan (Oakleigh Chargers/Vic Country)
Midfielder | 181cm | 30/05/2006
O’Sullivan is right at the pointy end in terms of 2024 draft prospects and has long been a standout, having taken out the Kevin Sheehan Medal at last year’s Under 16 national carnival. He’s a wonderfully well-rounded talent with few weaknesses; able to take marks overhead, impact on the inside and outside of the contest, and possessing a booming boot. He’s also the cousin of Carlton’s Sam Walsh.
Bo Allan (Peel Thunder/Western Australia)
Defender | 188cm | 16/02/2006
Western Australia may have had an underwhelming Under 18 carnival this year, but Allan was a shining light for the future across all four games. He was utilised in defence and took the game on, but also did so in stints up forward for Peel. Allan averaged 13 touches and four marks across eight Colts games in 2023 and is one of the state’s top prospects for 2024.
Levi Ashcroft (Sandringham Dragons/Vic Metro)
Midfielder | 179cm | 18/12/2006
It’s hard to shake the tag of being the brother of Will Ashcroft and son of Marcus, but Levi is doing as good a job as any of blazing his own trail. The Brisbane Lions father-son prospect is a midfielder with high level footy IQ and the work rate to match his smarts. It results in monster disposal hauls across all levels and Ashcroft has proven to be a big game player who takes on match-defining moments. He’s now a two-time Talent League premiership player.
Ben Camporeale (Glenelg/South Australia)
Midfielder | 184cm | 21/07/2006
Along with twin brother Lucas, Ben is father-son tied to Carlton for 2024 and has plenty of Blues fans excited. A lean type who covers the ground nicely, much like his father Scott, he has transitioned from wingman to on-baller with Glenelg this season. Camporeale averaged 25 disposals and four clearances per 13 SANFL Under 18 games in 2023 and kicks at high efficiency on his favoured right foot. He was best afield in the annual Futures game.
Malakai Champion (Subiaco/Western Australia)
Small Forward | 176cm | 17/05/2006
There are few more exciting players in full flight than Champion, who is capable of making opponents look silly with his turn of speed or by sitting on their heads for a speccy. The energetic small forward is crafty around goal but also helped connect Subiaco into attack this season by working high up the ground. He booted 22 majors in 14 WAFL Colts games, averaging 15 disposals and five marks.
Sid Draper (South Adelaide/South Australia)
Midfielder | 180cm | 05/07/2006
Draper may challenge to be the top of next year’s crop having compiled an outstanding bottom-age campaign. The speedy midfielder-forward took out state MVP honours at the Under 18 National Championships and broke through for a League berth, all before helping South Adelaide take out the SANFL Under 18 flag. He’s hard to lay a hand on and tested as the most agile player nationwide during preseason. A jet.
Jonty Faull (GWV Rebels/Vic Country)
Tall Forward | 194cm | 01/02/2006
There’s some serious spring in the way Faull plays, and he enjoyed a stellar back-end of the Talent League season to make good on the glimpses he showed previously. Having had stints in the ruck at 194cm, he settled up forward and booted 13 of his overall 20 goals for the year in the last four games. He also bagged four for Vic Country’s Futures and is developing nicely.
Tom Gross (Oakleigh Chargers/Vic Metro)
Midfielder/Forward | 180cm | 15/09/2006
An explosive type though midfield and up forward, Gross catches the eye with his turn of speed and ability to rise for overhead marks. He’s the type of player who can hurt the opposition by taking metres and breaking the lines with long kicking. Talent League averages of 23 disposals, four marks and five inside 50s saw him recognised with a call up to the Vic Metro Under 18 squad.
Kade Herbert (Woodville-West Torrens/South Australia)
Midfielder | 183cm | 03/04/2006
Another bottom-ager who broke through for a senior debut this year, Herbert impressed as a wing/forward for the Eagles. He also got to roll through midfield at state Under 18 level and has terrific smarts around the contest; able to navigate traffic with clean hands, composure, or an agile step. Herbert’s versatility is certainly a strength and he stepped up to each level this year.
Taj Hotton (Sandringham Dragons/Vic Metro)
Forward | 180cm | 17/06/2006
Hotton is the brother of St Kilda’s Olli and son of former Blue and Magpie Trent, though is not father-son eligible for either club. The spring-heeled forward offers strong athletic upside and is crafty inside attacking 50 with the potential to develop his midfield acumen. He’s a low-possession, high-impact type who averaged 11 touches and nearly a goal per his seven Talent League games this year.
Zak Johnson (Northern Knights/Vic Metro)
Midfielder | 185cm | 24/12/2006
Another top midfield talent out of Victoria, Johnson quickly established himself in Northern’s side and strung together a strong bottom-aged season consisting of 14 games. He averaged 21 disposals and booted 10 goals in that time, while also representing Vic Metro at Under 18 level. Johnson is a clever and composed on-baller who is difficult to pin down and often finds the right option out of a pack.
Isaac Kako (Calder Cannons/Vic Metro)
Small Forward | 175cm | 07/03/2006
Kako is like a bee in a bottle out on the footy field, darting in all directions with one target in mind. He’s a creative small forward with great evasive technique and the smarts to spot up tricky options inside 50, or even go for goal himself. The Essendon NGA prospect bagged 24 majors in 11 Talent League games, including a haul of seven, and began to work further up the ground as the year wore on.
Sam Lalor (GWV Rebels/Vic Country)
Midfielder | 187cm | 30/08/2006
A bull-like inside midfielder who has drawn comparisons to Dustin Martin, Lalor has the power, strength, and number four guernsey to back that up. He’s as clean as anyone at the contest and can bring the ball to the outside in powerful bursts, while also proving capable of hitting the scoreboard when resting forward. He’s another who has already debuted for the Vic Country Under 18s.
Leonardo Lombard (Suns Academy/Queensland)
Midfielder | 178cm | 05/10/2006
Arguably Queensland’s top talent for next year, Lombard is already a well known quantity. He turned out once for the Allies and dominated in Queensland’s Futures clash with Vic Country, while averaging 25 disposals and five inside 50s across five Talent League games. Lombard’s hard running and inside-outside balance also earned him a VFL berth with the Suns, playing in the club’s premiership.
Samuel Marshall (Lions Academy/Sandringham Dragons/Queensland)
Midfielder | 185cm | 19/01/2006
Another hard-running midfielder to add to the list of on-ballers for 2024, Marshall has mixed his time with many squads this year. He boards at Melbourne Grammar and thus is tied to the Sandringham Dragons, but also turns out for the Lions Academy. He didn’t look out of place for the Allies or Brisbane VFL side either, picking up possessions at will on the wing or at centre bounces.
Christian Moraes (Eastern Ranges/Vic Metro)
Midfielder | 182cm | 08/11/2006
Having missed out on Vic Metro Under 18 selection, Moraes starred in the Futures fixture and has been in incredible form for Eastern Ranges. Hailing from a basketball background, he’s a smooth mover with clean hands who thrives in attacking phases, carrying the ball at speed and with frequency. Moraes averaged 27 disposals in 16 Talent League games this year, including the Grand Final.
Noah Mraz (Dandenong Stingrays/Vic Country)
Tall Defender | 197cm | 20/02/2006
Mraz is among the top Victorian talls in next year’s crop and made good on a late berth with the Vic Country Under 18s. He also built nicely into the Talent League season, taking on roles in each third of the field for averages of 11 disposals and three marks in 12 games. Perhaps most settled down back with stints in the ruck, he’s a mobile type with clean skills and good mechanics at 197cm.
Harry O’Farrell (Calder Cannons/Vic Metro)
Tall Defender | 196cm | 03/05/2006
A versatile key position prospect, O’Farrell has predominantly played his representative and Talent League football down back, but also features up forward when turning out for St Kevin’s College in the APS competition. He only managed five games with Calder this season but earned a Vic Metro Under 18 berth and has some potential to harness as a top-ager next year.
Murphy Reid (Sandringham Dragons/Vic Metro)
Midfielder/Forward | 181cm | 30/07/2006
While midfield minutes in Sandringham’s stacked engine room are hard to come by, Reid has taken his opportunities there well and made every post a winner up forward, too. He’s a super clean handler of the ball and composed in tight spots, doing his best work at the contest and translating those same smarts around goal. He averaged 20 touches and over a goal per his 10 Talent League games this year.
Jobe Shanahan (Bendigo Pioneers/NSW-ACT)
Tall Utility | 192cm | 02/08/2006
Another Talent Leaguer with serious potential, Shanahan’s greatest strength is his aerial game. The 192cm Moama native has a clean set of hands and leaps at the ball so fluently – traits which translated to playing at either end of the ground. He also had stints in midfield, though one of his best games was up forward for NSW-ACT, where he put on a marking clinic and kicked three goals.
Josh Smillie (Eastern Ranges/Vic Metro)
Midfielder | 194cm | 17/05/2006
Likely among the top handful of prospects for next year, Smillie missed out on the Talent League Grand Final through injury but has done more than enough to prove his potential. The 194cm on-baller is a monster at the contest with his size, clean hands and high level footy IQ, all of which have been on display since his Under 16 carnival with Vic Metro last year. He’s a phenom at Under 18 level, too.
Jagga Smith (Oakleigh Chargers/Vic Metro)
Midfielder | 181cm | 28/01/2006
The headlines write themselves with Smith, who plays up to them with some of the slickest work of any midfielder in the pathway. While juggling school footy commitments, he averaged 30 disposals in 10 Talent League games and seamlessly stepped up to representative level with Vic Metro’s Under 18s. He’s lightly built, but clean and agile enough to take inside ball to the outer without being touched.
Luke Trainor (Sandringham Dragons/Vic Metro)
Defender | 193cm | 10/04/2006
Trainor is yet another bottom-ager who cracked Vic Metro’s Under 18 team this year and it’s easy to see why. He’s a versatile type at 193cm who can swing to either end of the ground, but arguably looks best as a third-up intercept defender. Trainor sparks rebounds with his aerial ability and distributive skills by foot, which were on show in consecutive 25-disposal games in the Talent League this season.
Tyler Welsh (Woodville-West Torrens/South Australia)
Tall Forward | 190cm | 15/08/2006
Another club-tied talent out of South Australia, Welsh is father-son eligible for Adelaide next year and will play for the Crows’ SANFL side. He burst onto the national stage with five goals against Vic Country and imposed himself on the SANFL Under 18s competition with 27 goals in 10 games before playing finals at Reserves level. Welsh plays above his height as a strong marking target but is also deceptively quick.
IN THE MIX
It looks like being a bumper Victorian crop, with a few National Academy members narrowly missing the cut for out list. Slick Bendigo midfielder-forward Archer Day-Wicks, Dandenong Stingrays best and fairest runner-up Harvey Langford, and smooth Gippsland Power midfielder/defender Xavier Lindsay are among them.
Lindsay’s Power teammate Ricky Mentha also featured in the National intake and is a creative small forward set to excite, hailing from the Northern Territory. Tasmanian ruck Oliver Dean has potential, as does Swans Academy tall Joel Cochran, who played in this year’s Under 16 championships against Mentha.
It was difficult to overlook Vic Metro Under 18 representatives Nash King and Jesse Dattoli, both crafty midfielders who can hit the scoreboard. Bendigo wingman/defender Tobie Travaglia impressed as the region’s best and fairest as a bottom-ager, while GWV Rebels ruck Flynn Penry has potential to rise the ranks.
Along with Ben Camporeale, twin brother Lucas is right in Carlton’s sights via the father-son rule. There’s also Louie Montgomery and Rome Burgoyne over in South Australia, both of whom are tied to Port Adelaide. Speaking of club-tied talent, Queenslander Tom Gillett looks a likely key position type from the Lions Academy.
The pool looks a little shallow over in Western Australia, but Claremont small Austin van der Struyf has plenty of class which should hold up next year. Talented West Perth tall Kayle Gerreyn impressed as an over-ager at the Under 16 championships this year and may be a smokey for the Black Ducks going forward.
https://central.rookieme.com/afl/2023/11/22/24-in-2024-a-look-ahead-to-next-years-top-prospects/
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The AFL draft will again be split over two nights in November, with the first round to be conducted on Wednesday, November 20 and the rest of the national draft to follow on Thursday, November 21. The rookie and pre-season drafts will be staged on Friday, November 22.
Recruiters are buoyant on this year's draft crop ahead of the mid-year under-18 championships, with a range of different types pushing to be available in the first round.
The Draft Combines have also been locked in for the end of the year, with the national Draft Combine to be held on October 4-6, and state Combines (Victoria on October 6, South Australia on October 12 and Western Australia on October 13) confirmed.
The League on Tuesday informed clubs of its schedule for the off-season, which will begin on the Friday following the Grand Final when the free agency window opens on October 4.
Players will be able to move via free agency for a week through to Friday, October 11, with that window overlapping with the start of the trade period.
The opening day of the trade period will be Monday, October 7 and it will close on Wednesday, October 16, with the prime-time finish on the final day now an established part of the wheeling, dealing and drama.
https://www.afl.com.au/news/1110249/afl-confirms-dates-for-2024-free-agency-trade-and-draft-period
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Why of course - just after we've started stockpiling picks:
BIDDING CHANGES COULD ARRIVE IN 2024
THE AFL hasn't ruled out making changes to its Academy and father-son bidding system as early as this year, with the League to review the process at the conclusion of its ongoing competitive balance reviews.
Speaking to AFL.com.au on Wednesday, the AFL's chief executive Andrew Dillon said the League was in the final stages of its meetings with clubs and was considering alterations to the bidding process as early as 2024.
"It will depend on the timing of when the review is finished. I wouldn't rule it out, coming in during 2024. But I'm not saying it will either," Dillon said.
As revealed on AFL.com.au last October, the League has already written to clubs saying it will review the bidding system, Next Generation Academy incentive and the Draft Value Index to ensure teams with Academy players are paying a fairer price to match bids at the draft.
https://www.afl.com.au/news/1110336/swans-big-contract-call-lions-table-offer-to-mid-tigers-trigger
Should take the bastards to court if they do this - we traded for future picks last year with the understanding the rules wouldn't be changed this year.... >:(
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Can't happen this year clubs already planned on previous rules.
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Baker, Dusty and Rioli all leaving means we could have as many as 5 1st round picks this year. Bring on the kids. The new recruiting manager has a big job. Hope he gets it right
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Can't happen this year clubs already planned on previous rules.
Agreed.
Given clubs can only trade picks 1 year in advance I suspect all clubs would be against rule changes that impact their trade strategies for last year.
Any new change would surely be 2025 onwards so clubs can plan accordingly.
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Baker, Dusty and Rioli all leaving means we could have as many as 5 1st round picks this year. Bring on the kids. The new recruiting manager has a big job. Hope he gets it right
They're all leaving based on?
An average news report by Ch10 Brisbane (Rioli). Surprised they knew he was ;D
As for the other 2....wish the media would report was actually said by Cotch. Firstly, not Cotch's finest moment on his new media gig "Talking Footy".. he stumbles, mumbled his way though his answer to a question about whether he believed Dusty and Baker would in different guernseys in 2025.
While getting tongue tied he managed to blurt out in the first instance that he though one of them wouldn't be in Richmlnd collurs.
Then he said maybe both won't be but didn't know, then when Timmy Watson said Dusty he said no Baker because Cotch is hearing whispers the $$$s on offer from the West are massive. He said in his view Dan Rioli won't leave..then he mumbled some more
So here we are.. the media having a field day based on a flip flop answer by our champion ex Captain. As I said not his finest moment
Fun times
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any footage WP?
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any footage WP?
I'm sure there is
Will search once I get away from work
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I saw it and Dan said to the shock jock “ I don’t know what your talking about”
Let’s see , but didn’t see more than a bloke on holidays who caught with a bloke he used to live with.
All the excitement was coming from the media man.
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Baker, Dusty and Rioli all leaving means we could have as many as 5 1st round picks this year. Bring on the kids. The new recruiting manager has a big job. Hope he gets it right
They're all leaving based on?
An average news report by Ch10 Brisbane (Rioli). Surprised they knew he was ;D
As for the other 2....wish the media would report was actually said by Cotch. Firstly, not Cotch's finest moment on hid nee media gig "Talking Footy".. he stumbles, mumbled his way though his answer to a question about whether he believed Dusty and Baker would in different guernseys in 2025.
While getting tongue tied he managed to blurt out in the first instance that he though one of them wouldn't be in Richmlnd collurs.
Then he said maybe both won't be but didn't know, then when Timmy Watson said Dusty he said no Baker because Cotch is hearing whispers the $$$s on offer from the West are massive. He said in his view Dan Rioli won't leave..then he mumbled some more
So here we are.. the media having a field day based on a flip flop answer by our champion ex Captain. As I said not his finest moment
Fun times
Thanks for confirming exactly what I said albeit in a long-winded complicated way. Rioli ain't visiting Dimma on a whim. He is clearly thinking of exiting and I don't blame him with Meehan around.
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Thanks for confirming exactly what I said albeit in a long-winded complicated way. Rioli ain't visiting Dimma on a whim. He is clearly thinking of exiting and I don't blame him with Meehan around.
What?
You posted they are all LEAVING. there was no ifs, buts, maybes. You were categoric
Please let us all know how you know they are all leaving
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any footage WP?
Here's a link
https://7news.com.au/sport/afl/trent-cotchins-shock-answer-reignites-dustin-martin-discussion-as-liam-baker-faces-tough-decision-c-14354770
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any footage WP?
Here's the footage.
https://twitter.com/7AFL/status/1780578174679634088
Edit: WP just beat me to it.
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Have to say Trent's made the Tigers one of the main sports stories today. As is the way with the media they are only showing reporting part of what was said
As I said not his finest moment
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any footage WP?
Here's the footage.
https://twitter.com/7AFL/status/1780578174679634088
Edit: WP just beat me to it.
Thanks for that.
Is that it? FMD
Firstly cotch sounds like a robot he should give media the flic
Secondly that tells us sweet fa
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Like the sound of Sam Lalor and Smillie looks great as well.
Be a good draft if we could some how manage to get both and still have a couple of decent picks on talls.
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April 2024 Draft Power Rankings: Mids, father-sons dominate the list
Jasper Chellappah
ESPN
Apr 17, 2024
A midfield powerhouse opens 2024 as ESPN's leading pick one contender, while a familiar father-son name has begun his top-age campaign in scintillating form.
The top of this draft pool reflects the evolving requirements of the modern day midfielder. Gone are days of the accumulating on-baller whose first instinct is backwards and sideways. Instead, junior coaches are imploring their engine room brigade to take the game on with speed and dare.
The midfield game-breaker has always been in vogue, but it is a mould more sought-after than ever before. The top prospects in 2024 share a common trait in taking space afforded with their legs, and taking the game right up to their opposition. It results in high impact performances and exciting, free-flowing football.
The AFL Academy succumbed to the bigger bodies of Coburg in their first hitout, but it was a high-quality, competitive contest at Ikon Park on Saturday. This draft doesn't possess the singular name in bright lights like a Harley Reid or Nick Daicos, and it will make for a fascinating race to the No. 1 pick as a myriad of midfielders stake their claim.
This is ESPN's opening edition of its monthly AFL Draft Power Rankings for 2024.
1. Josh Smillie
Eastern Ranges/Vic Metro
MID, 194cm
Talent League: 3 games, 24.7 disposals, 37 marks, 1 goal
Smillie is the prototype midfielder at 194cm with long arms and strong hips. Add to that his elite athletic background and rapid rise through the junior ranks in the past 18 months, and he appears the prospect with the highest upside at the next level. Smillie isn't just an athlete, though. He's a penetrating kick and possesses the poise and strength to pinpoint teammates under duress. He collected 20 disposals through the midfield against Coburg with his ball use a highlight. Smillie has shone as an interceptor off halfback and bulldozed defenders in the forward 50, but a big season as an inside midfielder could see his name called out with the number one selection.
2. Finn O'Sullivan
Oakleigh Chargers/Vic Country
MID, 182cm
Talent League: 1 game, 15 disposals, 2 marks, 4 tackles
Heralding from Koroit, O'Sullivan hasn't featured since Round 1 due to a fractured thumb, but he has years of dominant footy to hold him in good stead. The tough midfielder is brilliant in the air and can create mismatches pushing forward with his aerial dominance. He's a booming kick, runs out games strongly and blends his inside and outside craft superbly.
3. Levi Ashcroft
Sandringham Dragons/Vic Metro
MID, 179cm
Talent League: 3 games, 27.3 disposals, 4.7 marks, 1.7 goals
The younger brother of Will, Levi Ashcroft is already putting together a top-age campaign to challenge for the No. 1 pick. The equally-prolific midfielder has starred for the undefeated Dragons, and again enjoyed 33 disposals for the Academy. Ashcroft links the chains with creativity and is rapidly evolving his contested craft to balance a penchant to kick goals from half forward as well.
4. Luke Trainor
Sandringham Dragons/Vic Metro
DEF, 194cm
Talent League: 2 games, 20.5 disposals, 5.5 marks, 3 tackles
Named best on ground for the AFL Academy, Trainor put all of his elite traits together to showcase why he is the top-rated key defender in the pool. The bouncy interceptor flies bravely for his marks and offers beautiful timing in his kicking action, often being entrusted to take his side's kick-ins and setting up transition offence with aplomb. It's this attacking weapon which will have clubs considering Trainor in the top five at this early juncture.
5. Jagga Smith
Oakleigh Chargers/Vic Metro
MID, 181cm
Talent League: 3 games, 29 disposals, 4.7 marks, 3 tackles
Ever-elusive and a maestro with ball in hand, Jagga Smith will be a favourite wherever he ends up. The livewire midfielder currently has a light frame and plays an outside game, but his ability to accumulate and create chances forward of centre is best in class. Smith was clean and classy with his 22 disposals on the weekend.
6. Sid Draper
South Adelaide/South Australia
MID, 182cm
2023 SANFL U18s: 14 games, 21.6 disposals, 4.2 clearances, 0.6 goals
An all-round dynamic on-baller with an edge to the way he plays, Draper has had a delayed start to his top-age campaign with a stress fracture discovered in his shin. SA's MVP at the state championships could do no wrong last year and will be aiming to solidify his draft credentials when he returns to action in a month's time.
7. Christian Moraes
Eastern Ranges
MID/FWD, 183cm
Talent League: 3 games, 23.7 disposals, 6.7 marks, 3 goals
Moraes is a wonderfully balanced on-baller with elite skills off both sides of his body and the ability to hit the scoreboard. He's also tougher than his light frame suggests and does the gritty stuff inside to force the ball forward. Boasting an elite basketball background and producing eye-catching highlights with ball in hand, the Ranges star has solidified his top-10 credentials to start the year.
8. Leonardo Lombard
SUNS Academy/Allies
MID/FWD, 178cm
VFL: 1 game, 28 disposals, 8 marks
The Suns Academy midfielder won a VFL premiership as a 16-year-old last year, and in the off-season he's gotten to work, building his body to become a physical presence in his top-age season. Lombard has all the tricks and power to become a game-breaking midfielder; he thrived in transition against Coburg where he can take the game on and hit the scoreboard.
9. Sam Lalor
GWV Rebels/Vic Country
MID, 180cm
2023 Talent League: 8 games, 20.3 disposals, 7.5 tackles, 0.8 goals
The inside beast of the top of this draft is Lalor, a hard-nosed force that rips the ball out of stoppage. He's also the best defensive midfielder in the draft, tackling hard and mirroring Josh Dunkley's style of play. Also an elite cricketer, Lalor has been held out of action so far this season with a groin complaint.
10. Malakai Champion
Subiaco/Western Australia
FWD, 172cm
WAFL Colts: 1 game, 10 disposals, 3 marks, 1 goal
Champion will give himself every chance to take mark and goal of the year at the next level. The remarkable small forward is the full package of exciting forward play, often making something out of nothing with incredible dexterity and evasiveness. He's also played a linking half-forward position and could push up the ground at the next level like a Liam Henry. Concussion sidelined Champion for the Academy hitout.
11. Taj Hotton
Sandringham Dragons/Vic Metro
FWD/MID, 182cm
Talent League: 3 games, 28.7 disposals, 7.3 marks, 1.7 goals
The biggest early-season bolter has been Hotton, an athletic forward that has pushed up on-ball for the Dragons and reaped the rewards of his improved endurance. His ability to find pockets of space and move the ball into the corridor has been invaluable for his sides, and he ended the day with 2.2 from his shots against Coburg after a late AFL Academy call-up. Hotton plays a difficult half-forward role with ease.
12. Tyler Welsh
Adelaide SANFL/South Australia
FWD, 191cm
SANFL League: 7 disposals, 2 marks, 3 tackles
A traditional lead-up forward with ties to the Crows, Welsh is the best key forward in the draft at this point. He's a reliable set shot for the goal, making the most of a plethora of opportunities for club and state.
13. Tom Gross
Oakleigh Chargers/Vic Metro
MID/FWD, 181cm
Talent League: 2 games, 25.5 disposals, 6 tackles, 1 goal
Gross has explosive traits and throws himself recklessly into the contest without fear of physical contact. He can also leap above packs and hit the ground running, which lends himself to a half forward role despite his midfield exploits to start the season at the Chargers.
14. Ben Camporeale
Glenelg/South Australia
MID/DEF, 186cm
SANFL U18s: 3 games, 28.3 disposals, 4.3 marks, 3.7 tackles
The first of the Camporeale twins to feature, Ben is the inside presence who uses the ball with precision and can run all day. He got ample opportunity to impress both on-ball and off halfback for the Academy, and in both positions his ball use and spread stood out, finishing with 24 disposals.
15. Harry O'Farrell
Calder Cannons/Vic Metro
DEF, 196cm
Talent League: 2 games, 11.5 disposals, 2.5 marks, 0.5 tackles
A resolute key defender, O'Farrell isn't often beaten one-on-one and has good directional tact with his spoils. He will need time to build his body, but his length and closing speed gives him a chance to beat his forward regularly in his top-age season. Has also shown the ability to play forward for St Kevins in the APS.
16. Bo Allan
Peel Thunder/Western Australia
DEF/FWD, 191cm
WAFL League: 2 games, 12 disposals, 4 marks, 2.5 tackles
Allan missed the Academy match through a minor foot injury but is expected to return within the fortnight. The utility has graduated to League level and spent the majority of his time as a rebounding defender where he loves to take the game on and is ultra-aggressive in his ball movement. He's spent stints forward but may end up a midfielder with his kicking penetration and physicality.
17 Jack Whitlock
Murray Bushrangers/Vic Country
FWD, 200cm
Talent League: 15 disposals, 6 marks, 2.3 goals
Whitlock earned a call-up to the AFL Academy through strong form and spent his time between deep forward and stints in the ruck. He's a physical presence in the air but will need time to round out his game when the ball isn't delivered for him to run and jump at. Jack's twin Matt is also right in draft contention.
18. Cody Anderson
Eastern Ranges/Vic Metro
MID, 181cm
Talent League: 3 games, 21 disposals, 4 marks, 7 tackles
Anderson is a maniacal inside midfield presence, hunting the ball and opposition players alike. His physicality is second to none and it's that intense on-ball pressure that makes him a brilliant teammate to play alongside. He needs to become a better ball user and reduce his free kicks against, but there's scope for him to become an ideal defensive midfielder for clubs to target.
19. Lucas Camporeale
Glenelg, South Australia
MID, 185cm
SANFL U18s: 3 games, 23.7 disposals, 4.3 marks, 3.3 tackles
A natural wingman with elite work rate and running patterns, Lucas links play and keeps possession comfortably under pressure. He's worked many opponents into the ground over the past 12 months and continues to mount his case as a first-round talent for Carlton under the father-season rule.
20. Jobe Shanahan
Bendigo Pioneers/Allies
FWD, 194cm
Talent League: 3 games, 8.7 disposals, 3.3 marks, 2 goals
Hailing from Moama across the NSW border, Shanahan is an interesting in-between height, but his goal nous can be unquestioned. He regularly bobs up in the right spots and typically makes the most of his chances, and can also sit on defender's heads if given a run at the ball. There's some Kyle Langford in Shanahan's style of play.
https://www.espn.com.au/afl/story/_/id/39916961/afl-draft-2024-april-power-rankings-josh-smillie-sid-draper-camporeale-twins-levi-ashcroft
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Our current picks.
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https://www.zerohanger.com/afl/afl-draft-order-2024/
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May 2024 Draft Power Rankings: Key position twins make their charge
Jasper Chellappah
ESPN
May 15, 2024
The McKays, the Kings, and now the Whitlocks. Key position twins Jack and Matt Whitlock are the next towering brothers that clubs will be clamouring for in the AFL Draft.
The state championships are just more than a week away, coinciding with the AFL Draft's top prospects elevating themselves with standout performances for the AFL Academy against VFL sides Coburg and Footscray.
Top-five fancies Finn O'Sullivan and Sid Draper have battled injury at this early juncture, but remain firmly atop the board, and the welcome returns of Sam Lalor and Bo Allan have solidified their credentials.
This is ESPN's top-20 AFL Draft Power Rankings for May as draft prospects approach the mid-year state championships, starting with South Australia hosting the Allies on May 26.
1. Josh Smillie (April ranking: 1)
Eastern Ranges/Vic Metro
MID, 194cm
Talent League: 5 games, 28.2 disposals, 4.0 marks, 1.6 goals
Smillie is rocketing into football prominence, with each performance adding to his top pick credentials. His hulking size, explosive power and clean hands make him a midfield prospect with a huge ceiling, though he's also shown positional versatility at halfback. Though Smillie is six-foot-four, he hasn't proved a contested marking aptitude, but his rapidly evolving game has shown off goalkicking exploits and penetrating ball use forward of centre.
2. Finn O'Sullivan (2)
Oakleigh Chargers/Vic Country
MID, 182cm
Talent League: 1 game, 15 disposals, 2 marks, 4 tackles
O'Sullivan's campaign has been frustrating to date, returning from a broken thumb only to fracture another finger playing for the AFL Academy. It leaves him with just two injury-hampered outings to date outside of his school commitments with Xavier. Now having to get surgery on his recent finger injury, O'Sullivan will miss 6 weeks which includes the start of the Under 18 Champs. At his best, Finn's power, aerial prowess and consistently damaging game style has him in pick one contention. Though he hasn't been able to show that to date, a stellar bottom-age campaign holds him in good stead.
3. Levi Ashcroft (3)
Sandringham Dragons/Vic Metro
MID, 179cm
Talent League: 3 games, 27.3 disposals, 4.7 marks, 1.3 goals
Ashcroft is the star of a powerhouse Dragons outfit, building on his outside linking game this year by becoming a much-improved contested on-baller. He gets forward to hit the scoreboard, finds time and space where few can and shows elite work rate to rack the ball up all day. The brother of Will, Ashcroft is linked to the Lions through their academy and father-son ties.
4. Jagga Smith (5)
Oakleigh Chargers/Vic Metro
MID, 181cm
Talent League: 5 games, 30.6 disposals, 3.6 marks, 2.8 tackles
The mercurial Chargers midfielder has been a shining light in another dour year for the club, flourishing with added responsibility as its captain. Smith takes the ball from the inside to outside better than anyone in the draft and has the neat skills to release players into space by hand and foot. He sits second in the CTL for disposals per game.
5. Luke Trainor (4)
Sandringham Dragons/Vic Metro
DEF, 194cm
Talent League: 2 games, 20.5 disposals, 5.5 marks, 3.3 tackles
The standout key position player of the pool has been Trainor, possibly the best performer from the AFL Academies hitouts. Trainor is a capable one-on-one defender, great interceptor and brilliant ball user out of the backline. He's been compared to Essendon's Jordan Ridley, but the right footer is more willing to take the game on and get up the ground, averaging four inside 50s per outing.
6. Sid Draper (6)
South Adelaide/South Australia
MID, 182cm
2023 SANFL U18s: 14 games, 21.6 disposals, 4.2 clearances, 0.6 goals
Draper made his long-awaited return from a shin fracture in SA's state trials on the weekend, playing a half of football through the midfield. His speed and endurance ties in beautifully with his hard edge at the coalface belying his size. Draper was a genuine Larke Medallist chance last season as a bottom-ager and recruiters haven't forgotten those sparkling carnival performances.
7. Christian Moraes (7)
Eastern Ranges, Vic Metro
MID/FWD, 183cm
Talent League: 4 games, 26.0 disposals, 6.3 marks, 2.3 goals
An elite aerobic athlete boasting snappy movement with ball in hand, Moraes excites around the forward line and as an outside midfielder. He's kicking bags of goals for a powerful Ranges outfit and forms a potent combination with Smillie out of centre bounces, though hasn't proved his inside grunt work can match his dazzling play in transition.
8. Sam Lalor (9)
GWV Rebels/Vic Country
MID, 187cm
2023 Talent League: 8 games, 20.3 disposals, 7.5 tackles, 0.8 goals
Lalor will ply his trade for Geelong Grammar leading into the national carnival, where he kicked seven goals on return a few weeks back. The hulking midfielder offers elite defensive presence in stoppages to go with aerial prowess up forward. His defensive application and tenacity mirrors that of Brisbane's Josh Dunkley.
9. Leonardo Lombard (8 )
SUNS Academy/Allies
MID/FWD, 178cm
Talent League: 2 games, 25.0 disposals, 2.5 marks, 0.5 goals
The mature Lombard has been on the radar for years through the Gold Coast Academy, and won a VFL premiership last season as a 16-year-old. He plays full-chested, able to run through the midfield but also impact up forward where he's masterful in transition breaking the game apart with dare.
10. Taj Hotton (11)
Sandringham Dragons/Vic Metro
FWD/MID, 182cm
Talent League: 3 games, 28.7 disposals, 7.3 marks, 1.7 goals
The big riser from last year is Hotton, a forward-turned-midfielder whose aerobic base has come on in leaps and bounds. He is composed and sharp with the footy and bites off corridor kicks with impressive accuracy. Hotton will hold onto the ball with bold evasiveness until he finds the right option.
11. Jobe Shanahan (20)
Bendigo Pioneers/Allies
FWD, 194cm
Talent League: 5 games, 12.2 disposals, 4.6 marks, 2.0 goals
Shanahan continues to impress aerially, clunking pack marks and making his presence felt leading out of the goal square. He's also spent time up the ground where his work rate gets him up and down the wings to provide an outlet out of defence. Able to leap on heads and typically an accurate set shot, Shanahan could rocket into the top-10 with a strong carnival.
12. Jack Whitlock (17)
Murray Bushrangers/Vic Country
FWD, 200cm
Talent League: 3 games, 15.0 disposals, 6.0 tackles, 2.3 goals
Whitlock has missed games through injury, but put himself in the first round picture early with big performances up forward for the Bushrangers, earning himself an AFL Academy call-up. At his best he's taking the ball at his highest point and proving a match-up nightmare for defenders with his long limbs, outstanding leap and strong hands.
13. Harry O'Farrell (15)
Calder Cannons/Vic Metro
DEF, 196cm
Talent League: 2 games, 11.5 disposals, 2.5 marks, 0.5 tackles
A masterful shutdown defender, O'Farrell can play at both ends of the ground but looks most comfortable playing back shoulder and coming over the top of packs in contested marking situations. He has the length and sneaky-good closing speed to play on a variety of talls.
14. Joe Berry (unranked)
Murray Bushrangers/Vic Country
FWD, 180cm
Talent League: 5 games, 13.6 disposals, 4.0 tackles, 3.2 goals
The in-form small forward across the country is Berry, a full-tilt pressuriser who thrives in the chaos of forward 50 contests. He's a chasedown artist, has a beautiful left foot set shot and can work up the ground to boot. Berry's defensive mentality and talent with the football will make him an in-demand small forward.
15. Ben Camporeale (14)
Glenelg/South Australia
MID/DEF, 186cm
SANFL U18s: 4 games, 30.0 disposals, 4.5 marks, 3.5 tackles
A strong accumulator linked to Carlton through the father-son rule, Camporeale shone in the SA trials as a pure midfielder where his quick hands and strong hips come to the fore. He accumulates and has deft touch in his disposal, plus can play across half back as a distributor. His brother Lucas has first-round potential off a wing for Glenelg.
16. Bo Allan (16)
Peel Thunder/Western Australia
DEF/MID, 191cm
WAFL Colts: 2 games, 21.0 disposals, 5.5 marks, 0.5 goals
Allan is a strong presence either down back or through the middle of the park. He takes on tackles with brute force and can fly at top speed, though doesn't have the burst out of contest like some others. Allan may settle as a defender at the next level where his physicality and courage can be displayed.
17. Tom Gross (13)
Oakleigh Chargers/Vic Metro
MID/FWD, 181cm
Talent League: 2 games, 25.5 disposals, 6.0 tackles, 1.0 goals
Gross possesses an abundance of power in the contest and plays above his height in the forward line. It's an exciting package, but he hasn't quite proved his ability as a pure on-baller. There are elements of Brisbane's Zac Bailey in his forward-half game.
18. Matt Whitlock (unranked)
Murray Bushrangers/Vic Country
DEF/FWD, 199cm
Talent League: 5 games, 14.8 disposals, 6.0 marks, 1.2 goals
The second of the first-round twins is Matt Whitlock, who has moved up draft boards after a rare forward outing where he booted five goals in his brother's absence. Matt is typically a rangy defender with a good athletic foundation and safe hands in the air. But up forward he competed well and was rewarded for his reading of the play, and it proved his positional versatility for scouts.
19. Isaac Kako (unranked)
Calder Cannons/Vic Metro
FWD, 175cm
Talent League: 5 games, 16.6 disposals, 3.8 marks, 2.0 goals
Kako is must-watch, a dynamo with the ball and wrecking ball without. He hits contests at full tilt and loves to pressure and tackle, plus can play as a lead-up forward on the wings to provide outlets. Kako doesn't have the best goal nous of the small forwards in this draft, but his frenetic energy and ability to stay involved in games has been impressive this year. An Essendon NGA prospect, but a bid can't be matched until pick 40 in the draft.
20. Cody Anderson (18)
Eastern Ranges/Vic Metro
MID, 181cm
Talent League: 6 games, 23.5 disposals, 6.8 tackles, 0.8 goals
Anderson is a maniacal inside midfield presence, hunting the ball and opposition players alike. He's part of a dynamic on-ball unit for the Ranges and has hit the scoreboard to add to his inside game. While he flourishes in the contest, Anderson still needs to prove his outside game and foot skills can translate to the next level.
https://www.espn.com.au/afl/story/_/id/40147426/afl-draft-2024-power-rankings-josh-smillie-jack-matt-whitlock
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Our current picks:
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https://x.com/Jonesracing82/status/1791283949089816638
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So what I want to know is who are the next generation superstars the Swans are hiding at there "academy"?
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So what I want to know is who are the next generation superstars the Swans are hiding at there "academy"?
Dunno but I'd be offering them 22, 40, 41, 47, 58, 66 and 68 for 18 + 19.
Go draft with 2, 18, 19, 29.
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So what I want to know is who are the next generation superstars the Swans are hiding at there "academy"?
Dunno but I'd be offering them 22, 40, 41, 47, 58, 66 and 68 for 18 + 19.
Go draft with 2, 18, 19, 29.
Perfect Andy!
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Brisbane and Gold Coast will also need picks. We could end up with 4-5 top 20 if baker leaves and potentially 2 top 10
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So what I want to know is who are the next generation superstars the Swans are hiding at there "academy"?
Dunno but I'd be offering them 22, 40, 41, 47, 58, 66 and 68 for 18 + 19.
Go draft with 2, 18, 19, 29.
Perfect Andy!
I’d be targeting freo personally. Surely they’re in win now mode, they’ll be looking to move their first rounders surely.
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So what I want to know is who are the next generation superstars the Swans are hiding at there "academy"?
Dunno but I'd be offering them 22, 40, 41, 47, 58, 66 and 68 for 18 + 19.
Go draft with 2, 18, 19, 29.
Would be extremely disappointed if that was the draft hand we ended up with...should be able to do way better than that.... :shh
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So what I want to know is who are the next generation superstars the Swans are hiding at there "academy"?
Dunno but I'd be offering them 22, 40, 41, 47, 58, 66 and 68 for 18 + 19.
Go draft with 2, 18, 19, 29.
Would be extremely disappointed if that was the draft hand we ended up with...should be able to do way better than that.... :shh
Well we should also be trading out players but to give Swans a points surplus that's about +450 for them.
What would you do?
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Honestly if we just throw the Norf game we'll probably get P1
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Well who do we like ? Gotta get excited about something. Smilie looks good
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So what I want to know is who are the next generation superstars the Swans are hiding at there "academy"?
Dunno but I'd be offering them 22, 40, 41, 47, 58, 66 and 68 for 18 + 19.
Go draft with 2, 18, 19, 29.
Would be extremely disappointed if that was the draft hand we ended up with...should be able to do way better than that.... :shh
Well we should also be trading out players but to give Swans a points surplus that's about +450 for them.
What would you do?
Well we should be bidding on the academy picks of GC before we do any of that - also Scum & Bears will have high f/s picks....all teams who'll likely finish lower than Sydney......then there's whatever we'll get for Baker, possible compo pick fir Graham...possibly Rioli ...I'd be trading Short.....would even consider a decent offer for Lynch if it came.... :shh
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The smart teams trade, then trade up, then trade up again to get higher and higher.
Time for us to utilize the number of picks we have currently then trade out a few players and ,3-5 picks in the top 15-25 while keeping pick 1or 2
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2019 draft.
Pick 21: Thomson Dow:
Pick 39: Chad Warner
Ouchies!
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2019 draft.
Pick 21: Thomson Dow:
Pick 39: Chad Warner
Ouchies!
Jeremy Sharp @ 27 the only other half-decent player in between....though Harrison Jones would be an upgrade on Kosi , Worrell would be upgrade on Young and McGuiness could at least stop the oppo mids from bringing their own footy every week...... :shh
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U18 Champs starts this weekend.
NATIONAL CARNIVAL KICKS OFF
SID Draper's push to be an early pick in this year's draft pool will gather pace on Sunday as the South Australian captain begins his Marsh Under-18 Championships.
The first game of the carnival will take place at Thebarton Oval at 11am local time in Adelaide, with Draper recently returning from the shin stress fracture that delayed his start to his draft season.
The gun midfield prospect dominated his bottom-age year to be named an under-18 All-Australian and South Australia's most valuable player as well as winning the best-on-ground medal for South Adelaide in its under-18 Grand Final.
Ben and Lucas Camporeale, both father-son at Carlton, will also be a part of the SA squad, while rising forward/midfielder Ned Bowman has jumped into draft calculations.
Gold Coast Academy prospect Leo Lombard and Brisbane Academy midfielder Sam Marshall shape as the leading players in the Allies line-up tied to clubs, with forward Jobe Shanahan also impressing as a possible top-20 pick in the early stages of the season and Nathaniel Sulzberger's athleticism catching the eye of scouts as well
Every match of the 2024 Marsh Under-18 Championships will be live streamed on AFL.com.au and the AFL Live app.
– Callum Twomey
https://www.afl.com.au/news/1135429/marsh-u18-boys-national-championships-to-start-sunday
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Sid Draper at the champs:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-kEDGnI2YZ4
Sid was solid but not spectacular in his first champs outing for 2024. My guess is that he's still searching for match fitness and form after his long injury layoff - he had a strong opening half before fading out of the game and there was a lot of hands on head or knees sucking in the big ones in the second half. His defensive efforts in particular we poor at times.
Phoenix Hargrave:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eSRYVqqBXWc
Another solid performance from one of SA's deep contingent of midfielders. Hargrave is coming off a promising bottom age campaign where he was named MVP of the SANFL U18s competition. He's tough and strong in the contest as well as tidy and clever with his disposal.
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Jagga Smith had 50 disposals in the U18s league on the weekend.
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Were they damaging possies or just Tom Mitchell/Lachie Neale stat padding nothingness? :shh
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there was a kid i read this morning somewhere who is underage, and who dominated a game. Eligible 2025. Could he be another Harley?
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Not this kid?
Looking two drafts ahead Dyson Sharp already being touted as the #1 pick in '25 much like Reid was two years out:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9O7PpVAA_mI
...should be tanking hard next year if he is another "head & shoulders above everyone else" type like Reid.... :shh
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Too bad Lombard is a GC Academy pick....assuming we finish 17th then surely we'll at least keep Halfstep honest and bid for him if Norf don't....this year's Reid... :shh
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Too bad Lombard is a GC Academy pick....assuming we finish 17th then surely we'll at least keep Halfstep honest and bid for him if Norf don't....this year's Reid... :shh
Not that we're a chance but this is him:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uc_vJN7u3e8
We have to start talking about Lombard as a legit top 5 pick if not a pick 1 contender. No player has been better performed this season than Leo, no player is more dangerous and damaging with ball in hand. He setup as more of an outside receiver in this game on the attacking side of the contest and consistently found space for linking chains, either setting up his teammates or finishing himself.
Footy Stuff Player Profile:
Leo Lombard - 178cm mid/fwd.
Lombard is a somewhat undersized but powerful and dynamic midfielder much in the mould of fellow Suns Academy graduate Jake Rogers. He's a threat at stoppage with strong timing and low center of gravity allowing him to get first hands on the footy, and then he has the breakaway acceleration to get inside to out for a clear and damaging possession. If he can add more goals to his repertoire then he'll push right into top 10 draft calculations.
Luke Urqhart:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cSa-k7xCTvU
Luke Urquhart - 190cm mid/fwd
Urquhart was WA's best on the day, his size and competitiveness was influential at stoppage and he was typically damaging with his penetrating right boot. He played 100% midfield in this game which is different to his typical role at Colts level where he rests in the forward line, and he did fade in the second half which coincided with the Allies getting on top of the territory battle.
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Not sure I want Smith if this assesment from the bloke that puts up those youtube highlights is right:
Size is an obvious one. He's 181cm which isnt tiny but he has a thin frame that probably wont put on a lot of muscle. This isnt always a killer... he could end up being the next Zak Butters given his elite movement.
The two other criticisms are defensive actions and disposal. I mentioned the disposal above... I dont think its a huge deal but worth keeping an eye on. He might struggle with a tag at the next level if he can't maintain disposal accuracy under pressure.
Defensively, a couple of issues. I dont think its a problem with running hard defensively as he runs hard all the time. He's always there to create a +1, and does this just as often in the D50 as anywhere else on the ground. Its more that his tackle counts are often quite low considering how active he is in general. He tends to "arm tackle" a lot, which gets broken easily given his lack of bulk/muscle. You look at Butters and he drives into tackles with his shoulder/chest. I think that should be the model for Jagga to follow. But in general he needs to use his big footy brain to anticipate when the opposition is about to break free with the ball and get there to apply pressure more often. I'm pretty confident he can correct this.
Hmm small skinny frame unlikely to get much bigger, supposedly a great mover but shyte disposal and a poor one armed tackler......if wasn't for the high work rate I'd say that was Dow....should fit right in.... :shh
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At last a KPF prospect, Jonty Faull:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=98M-5AxxKaM
The top key forward prospect in this draft entering the season is finally back after missing the first two months of the season through injury, and he immediately shows everyone what they've been missing with a bag of five goals.
Cooper Hynes:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TpbdiHxRMyA
A prolific disposal game from Cooper Hynes who also hit the scoreboard at a pivotal moment in the 4th quarter to help his Stingrays get up in a tightly contested game. He remains something of a polarizing prospect. His numbers as a mid and a forward are excellent. He has a large frame, excellent level of competitiveness and repeat efforts, but only average stoppage impact and raw skill level at times.
Article on some of the top prospects (comments from Shifter "every kid's a future star" Sheehan to be taken with a grain of salt)
https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/a-50-disposal-gun-an-almost-flawless-prospect-and-cripps-2-0-afl-draft-hopefuls-to-watch-20240530-p5jhwz.html
A 50-disposal gun, an almost flawless prospect and Cripps 2.0: AFL draft hopefuls to watch
ByMarc McGowan
The time to shine has arrived.
There is no more important period for prospective AFL draftees than the national under-18 championships. The Allies have already played twice, against South Australia and Western Australia, while the Victorian teams start their campaign this weekend.
We spoke to club recruiters, who shared their thoughts anonymously on this year’s crop in order to speak more freely on their strengths and weaknesses.
The AFL’s talent ambassador, Kevin “Shifter” Sheehan, also gave his take on the select group below.
Among those to narrowly miss out were Isaac Kako, Joe Berry, Noah Mraz, Matt Whitlock, Jobe Shanahan, Harry O’Farrell, Lucas Camporeale, Sam Marshall and Harry Armstrong.
Here are the top prospects so far, in alphabetical order.
Bo Allan
Peel Thunder/Western Australia, midfielder/defender, 191cm, 16/2/2006
Key WAFL Colts stats (averages): 21 disposals, 6.5 inside-50s, 3 tackles
Allan is Western Australia’s best draft prospect in 2024, and his versatility and size are a big part of his appeal. He has proven he can be effective as a rebounding defender and winger, and is developing his midfield craft as well. Allan is a good athlete with a neat left-foot kick who has good pace off the mark for his size. As with some others on this list, Allan’s stock largely depends on how well he plays at the championships.
Shifter says: “He’s a strongly built and powerful athlete who had a good game on Harley Reid last year, which should hold him in good stead.”
Levi Ashcroft
Sandringham Dragons/Vic Metro, midfielder, 179cm, 18/12/2006
Key Talent League stats (averages): 27.3 disposals, 5 clearances, 9.7 score involvements
The son of triple premiership-winning ex-Lion Marcus, Ashcroft is an ultra-consistent and goalkicking midfielder who can join his brother Will at Brisbane as a father-son prospect. He is rated a top-three talent and could hardly do more, after being an under-18 All-Australian last year and starting this season superbly. Ashcroft does not have the sheer size of a player such as Josh Smillie, but his professionalism and on-field smarts have him well-positioned to be an impact player from the get-go at AFL level.
Shifter says: “He’s probably the most natural footballer in the pool. He does all the fundamentals at an elite level, gets to the right spots, distributes brilliantly, is super consistent, and hasn’t missed a beat.”
Ben Camporeale
Glenelg/South Australia, midfielder/defender, 186cm, 21/7/2006
Key SANFL U18 stats (averages): 30 disposals, 5.8 clearances, 7.3 score involvements
The Carlton father-son prospect, whose dad Scott played 233 of his 252 games for the Blues, is poised to attract an opposition bid somewhere in the teens to early 20s. Camporeale, like his twin Lucas, who has a similar draft range, needs to tidy up his kicking, but can play an inside or outside midfield role, has no problem finding the Sherrin, is professional, runs harder than most and consistently performs.
Shifter says: “Ben’s the right-footer of the twins and your inside player, whereas his brother is better on the outside. Ben gets his nose over the ball, and has really grown in the last six months, including being best on ground on grand final day in the under-17s Futures game, which is always a good indicator of real talent.”
Sid Draper
South Adelaide/South Australia, midfielder, 182cm, 5/7/2006
Key SANFL stats (averages): 31 disposals, 9 inside-50s, 14 score involvements
A shin stress fracture sidelined Draper for an extended period, but he played and gathered 19 disposals in South Australia’s win over the Allies then had a strong game for South Adelaide at the weekend. Performed outstandingly for his state as a bottom-ager last year – winning team MVP and under-18 All-Australian honours – and is on track to be a top-five pick. Draper’s ability to navigate and burst through traffic is one of his best traits.
Shifter says: “He returned in the trial matches to get some game time under his belt, then played quite well last week in his first real full hitout in the midfield [post-injury]. He has an elite ability to get through traffic with his step and agility, and his decision-making by hand and foot is excellent.”
Jonty Faull
GWV Rebels/Vic Country, key forward, 195cm, 1/2/2006
Key Talent League stats (averages): 14 disposals, 4 marks, 5 goals
Faull returned from a long-term back injury for the Rebels on Saturday, kicking a game-high five goals after booting 13 in his final four matches of last season. There is an obsession with finding 200cm key-position players, and some recruiters point out that Faull is neither super tall nor quick, but others are enamoured with his athleticism, marking ability and goalkicking prowess. He could emerge as the best key forward in this class.
Shifter says: “It was an amazing return, given he hadn’t played for nine months. He’s kicked five lots of four goals or more in his past seven games going back to last year, which is a terrific effort. He’s a big, powerful kid, and his marking is his obvious strength. He reads the ball in the air so early … and is a good set shot. Whether he’s ready to play this week [for Vic Country] remains to be seen.”
Tom Gross
Oakleigh Chargers/Vic Metro, midfielder/forward, 181cm, 15/9/2006
Key Talent League stats (averages): 24.7 disposals, 4.7 tackles, 6.7 score involvements
Gross projects somewhere at the back end of this group, but is consistently likened to retired Crows star Rory Sloane, the type of player every club could do with. He might not be the most aesthetically pleasing player, but is tough, competitive, almost always gets the job done and can impact the game in the midfield and up forward. Recruiters would like him to finish his work in front of goal with greater efficiency, but he is tipped to have a long AFL career.
Shifter says: “Tommy is your hard-edged, competitive midfielder who has got explosive pace out of stoppage, which is a hell of an asset. He can play as a smaller forward as well. He’s had a consistent last 12 months, and his form has been very good and even dominant at times this year.”
Taj Hotton
Sandringham Dragons/Vic Metro, midfielder/forward, 180cm, 17/6/2006
Key Talent League stats (averages): 28.7 disposals, 7.3 marks, 1.7 goals
Hotton’s blistering start to the season had him poised to be one of the draft’s biggest risers until he suffered a season-ending ACL rupture at training last month. He is the son of ex-Blue and Magpie Trent – but not father-son eligible – and brother of St Kilda’s Olli. Hotton is competitive, an excellent athlete with great marking ability, and has performed at both ends and in the middle. Recruiters felt he could have been a top-10 pick if not for his setback.
Shifter says: “Probably the best-performed player in the first month or so of the year, and that earned him a call-up to play for the AFL Academy, where he was dominant again against Coburg. Him doing his knee at training was a football tragedy, but he’s got the score on the board.”
Sam Lalor
GWV Rebels/Vic Country, midfielder/forward, 187cm, 30/8/2006
Key Talent League stats (averages): 20.3 disposals, 7.5 tackles, 4.5 clearances (2023 season)
Injuries have limited Lalor’s exposure this season, and there is significant interest in the sort of shape he will be in for the championships. He is a midfield bull who thrives in the contest with his hardness and competitiveness, which has drawn comparisons to Dustin Martin. There are durability concerns about Lalor, who is also a talented cricketer, and recruiters would like to see him involve himself more in transition.
Shifter says: “Sam’s played only a smidgen of school footy this year because of injuries to his foot then a quad. He’s a powerful beast, this boy, but we just need to see some performance, so hopefully that will unfold. He will be a bit underdone, but he looks an AFL type, and his best will come later in the year.”
Xavier Lindsay
Gippsland Power/Vic Country, midfielder/defender, 183cm, 3/8/2006
Key Talent League stats (averages): 26.2 disposals, 7 inside-50s, 6.6 clearances
There are scouts who consider Lindsay a top-15 talent. The word that keeps coming up about him is “reliable” and he is one whose championships performance will play a big role in where he fits. There is still debate about Lindsay’s best position at AFL level, given he has played all over the field, but he consistently delivers, is competitive, boasts a splash of class and has leadership qualities.
Shifter says: “A natural footballer with a beautiful left-foot kick who is a prolific ball-winner, playing on the wing or at half-back. He’s an elite reader of the play, and has put together a very consistent two or so years in front of scouts’ eyes.”
Leonardo Lombard
Gold Coast Suns Academy/Allies, midfielder, 178cm, 5/10/2006
Key Talent League stats (averages): 24.7 disposals, 13 contested possessions, 5.7 clearances
Back-to-back best-on-ground performance in the Allies’ first two championships games convinced the remaining doubters of Lombard’s bona fides. The Suns matched four first-round bids on academy prospects last year and will need to do so again with Lombard – potentially inside the top 10. He oozes energy and intensity, and his power, strength and relentless ball-hunting make for an impressive package. Lombard lacks polish at times, but has barely put a foot wrong.
Shifter says: “You can compare him to Touk Miller and Jake Rogers, from the same club. He’s a fall-of-the-ball player, very tough one-on-one, thrives in the contest, has clean hands and sets play up. He also plays with enormous spirit, and that travels right through your group.”
Christian Moraes
Eastern Ranges/Vic Metro, midfielder, 182cm, 11/8/2006
Key Talent League stats (averages): 25.7 disposals, 11.7 contested possessions, 1.5 goals
Moraes, who has a high-level basketball background, has one of the widest range of potential draft outcomes, with the view that he needs to perform well at the championships to be a top-10 pick. He is one of the most gifted footballers in this year’s crop, and was a standout as a bottom-ager last year but has not quite lived up to expectations in 2024. Recruiters love Moraes’ offensive game and game-breaking ability but want to see him improve defensively. There is also a belief he will require the right environment to thrive.
Shifter says: “He got an injury in one of the academy games, and carried it into the second one, so you can put those two games aside. He’s a prolific ball-winner, an elite runner – the running man of this group – works deep into defence, and has added goalkicking to his kitbag from working hard offensively.”
Charlie Nicholls
Central District/South Australia, key forward, 197cm, 8/6/2006
Key SANFL U18 stats (averages): 17 disposals, 8.3 marks, 2.2 goals
Nicholls is coming with a rush, and is now among this draft pool’s leading key forward prospects. He is an ideal size for his position and matches that with athleticism, great hands, and an ability to work hard up the ground and back. Nicholls’ excellent SANFL form has translated to national level, and recruiters noted how much more confidently he was playing in recent games and rave about his upside.
Shifter says: “We look forward to rating the key forwards in their 18th year. He reads the ball very early, which is a great advantage, and leads to him playing in front, and he has lovely soft hands. His marking is his best asset. He has not filled out yet, but he’s one of the more appealing tall forwards in the draft pool.”
Finn O’Sullivan
Oakleigh Chargers/Vic Country, midfielder, 182cm, 30/5/2006
Key Talent League stats (averages): 15 disposals, 5 clearances, 5 inside-50s
O’Sullivan’s had an interrupted season, firstly with a broken thumb and now a broken finger that will sideline him for the start of the championships. However, he remains a genuine contender to be the dux of this year’s class. Won the division one best and fairest award at under-16 level two years ago before earning under-18 All-Australian honours as a bottom-ager last year. Classy, clever, competitive and strong overhead, O’Sullivan is close to a flawless prospect. Something recruiters believe separates him is his willingness to defend.
Shifter says: “From the very first time we saw him at under-16 level – when he was best on ground – he showed an elite running ability, depth in his kicking, and his ball-winning ability stood out. He can mark the ball, has a good jump and step, and is a well-balanced individual as well.”
Josh Smillie
Eastern Ranges/Vic Metro, midfielder, 194cm, 17/5/2006
Key Talent League stats (averages): 27 disposals, 5.6 clearances, 1.6 goals
The Patrick Cripps comparisons are inevitable, and recruiters are enamoured with Smillie’s size, brute ball-winning ability and the impact he has up forward. The expectation is Smillie would be a difference-maker from his debut season. One talent scout described him as a generational talent, and he is the popular choice to be the No.1 pick. There was a knock on his transition running, but the consensus is he has made strides in that part of his game.
Shifter says: “He had a taste of nationals last year, and dominated in the midfield, then had a game this year, Eastern v Brisbane Lions Academy, and if anyone needs to see what a league footballer looks like, [that game was it]. He made the game look easy, and that’s what elite kids do at his size. He was also appointed captain of the Australian side as well, which is great recognition.”
Jagga Smith
Oakleigh Chargers/Vic Metro, midfielder, 181cm, 28/1/2006
Key Talent League stats (averages): 34.7 disposals, 14.7 contested possessions, 9.1 clearances
Smith has plenty of admirers, particularly with his rare ball-winning ability, which was highlighted in an extraordinary 50-disposal, 17-clearance feast against the Western Jets. His football IQ and lateral movement are among his strengths, but there are queries on his light frame, efficiency and lack of penetration with his kicking. Some recruiters think he might start his AFL career as a forward to protect him as his frame develops.
Shifter says: “He’s a rubber man; he’s so flexible, both winning the ball with his agility then with his ability to step out of a contested situation, bend his body, and find a teammate with a handpass. His performance chart has been super consistent – he rarely plays a poor game – he’s courageous, and has clean hands.”
Luke Trainor
Sandringham Dragons/Vic Metro, key defender, 195cm, 4/10/2006
Key Talent League stats (averages): 20.5 disposals, 3 intercept marks, 5 rebound-50s
Trainor is the exception in a projected top 10 littered with on-ballers. His athleticism and toughness in aerial contests appeal to recruiters, along with how he boldly takes the game on with his kicking. Trainor is more of a Tom Stewart-type as a defender rather than someone who will be charged with playing on the opposition’s No.1 tall forward – but that is not a slight. That said, his one-on-one defending is an area he can improve in.
Shifter says: “He’s the biggest bolter in now being considered a very early prospect. He’s super athletic, has a wonderful, natural spring, then when he hits the deck, he runs quickly and kicks the ball well. After one of the academy games, a recruiter told me he could play next week in the AFL. I know it’s a throwaway line, but it indicates how ready this young man is.”
Jack Whitlock
Murray Bushrangers/Vic Country, key forward/ruck, 200cm, 16/5/2006
Key Talent League stats (averages): 15 disposals, 2 goals, 8 score involvements
There are varied opinions on this year’s best key-position prospects, but Whitlock has positioned himself as a likely first-round selection. His brother Matt is also rated highly. A hand injury interrupted his season, but Whitlock is back playing for the Bushies and will be ready for the championships. His size, athleticism, marking ability and competitiveness are big ticks, and recruiters are excited about his upside, even if he is still a tad raw.
Shifter says: “Sometimes you get an early glimpse, and with this boy, it was his first game of the year against Tassie, when he kicked four goals. I was dying to see a 200cm boy [break out]. He grabbed that match by the scruff of the neck, and worked his way into the first of the AFL Academy games. He and his twin brother will be much talked about this year, and look to have the capabilities to play at both ends of the ground
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Would love to somehow get smilie
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We need to keep pick 2 and possibly get another pick inside the top 10.
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Smiller and Faull or Nicholls sounds good.
Tank the season, shouldn't win any more games bar Dusty's 300th. Must lose to Norf.
Then trade all our other picks to get up the pecking order for Faull or Nicholls.
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Lachie Jaques:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PEaeJKldS1c
With Vic Country playing their first champs game on the weekend it's time to take a closer look at the talented Lachie Jaques. Lachie is an intercepting and rebounding defender from the Geelong Falcons who's still flying a bit under the radar even though he's putting together a prolific campaign. He's strong overhead which allows him to play taller than his listed 184cm height, and has tidy foot skills.
Sounds like another hbf but has to been compared to Blakey - which I could live with, particularly if Rioli goes to Dimma Coast and/or if we do what we should do and finally trade Shortsteps (we won't) :shh
Smiller and Faull or Nicholls sounds good.
Tank the season, shouldn't win any more games bar Dusty's 300th. Must lose to Norf.
Then trade all our other picks to get up the pecking order for Faull or Nicholls.
BF poster (yeah yeah) "Grockadoc" reckons our scouts were watching Faull on the weekend and rate him highly.... :shh
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Metro has the deepest midfield by some margin. Lions father-son prospect Levi Ashcroft, 194cm big-bodied midfielder Josh Smillie and 181cm ball magnet Jagga Smith – all top-five pick contenders – loom as the likely top centre bounce combination for Vic Metro.
Smith has been in absurd form at Coates Talent League level for the Oakleigh Chargers, racking up 40, 50, 33 and 33 disposals respectively from his past four matches.
https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/draft/afl-draft-2024-order-date-father-son-rankings-national-under-18-championships-tv-start-time-schedule-draft-watch/news-story/317b98acf70eb1051846bc2541361ba7
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The HUN's top 25 power rankings for June.
1. Josh Smillie
Eastern Ranges/Vic Metro
The early favourite to be the No. 1 pick, Smillie is putting together an impressive campaign. A 194cm big-bodied midfielder who models his game on Carlton captain Patrick Cripps, Smillie has serious size, power and ball-winning ability. While primarily an onballer, he has also shown he can impact across halfback and half-forward if required. Smillie has averaged 24 disposals, 5.6 clearances and 1.6 goals across seven Coates Talent League matches for the Eastern Ranges this season, while also shining as captain in two AFL Academy exhibition matches in April.
2. Levi Ashcroft
Sandringham Dragons/Vic Metro
A classy 179cm midfielder-forward, Ashcroft knows how to find the footy like few others in this year’s draft class. A Brisbane Lions father-son prospect, he could well match older brother Will and be a No. 2 pick to the Lions in November. The son of three-time premiership player Marcus, Ashcroft possesses elite workrate, makes good decisions and brings leadership. He has been a consistent performer at all levels of football this season, which has included games for the Sandringham Dragons, Brighton Grammar and the AFL Academy.
3. Finn O’Sullivan
Oakleigh Chargers/Vic Country
What sets O’Sullivan apart from the other midfielders in this draft is his well-rounded skillset. The Koroit talent is a great mark overhead, cuts opposition sides apart with his kicking and doesn’t need a lot of the footy to have a major impact. After being sidelined with a broken thumb earlier in the year, O’Sullivan will miss most of the national championships after undergoing surgery on a broken finger as his rotten luck continued. But he already has plenty of runs on the board, earning a spot in the U18 All-Australian team as a bottom-ager at last year’s carnival and claiming the MVP award at the U16 championships.
4. Jagga Smith
Oakleigh Chargers/Vic Metro
A lively and creative ball-winner, Smith is on the smaller side as a lightly-built 181cm midfielder. However, he more than makes up for it in resilience, footy smarts and pure skills. Smith has drawn comparisons to Port Adelaide’s Zak Butters this year, who is a player he watches closely. He was one of the best players for the AFL Academy against Footscray’s VFL side in April in his first game against men. Smith also made headlines after racking up 50 disposals for the Oakleigh Chargers in a recent Coates Talent League match, becoming just the third player in the competition’s history to reach that mark in a match.
5. Luke Trainor
Sandringham Dragons/Vic Metro
A 194cm defender, Trainor has emerged as the best key position prospect this year. A former forward, he is now loving life down back and looks up to the likes of Tom Stewart and Jeremy Howe. Trainor’s overhead marking is a clear strength, while his one-on-one contest work has been impressive. With ball in hand he is highly composed and he possesses a nice kick to provide some rebound for his team. Trainor was best afield in the AFL Academy’s first exhibition match in April, while also playing some impressive games for the Dragons and school team Brighton Grammar.
6. Christian Moraes
Eastern Ranges/Vic Metro
A dynamic 183cm midfielder, Moraes is a running machine who covers the ground extremely well. He works hard both sides of the ball and can be dangerous around goals when he pushes forward, evidenced by his nine goals from his first three games for the Ranges this year. In the thick of the action, Moraes is tough, has clean hands and brings real composure. He had an up-and-down few weeks after copping a heavy knock during an AFL Academy game in April, but has still averaged 25.7 disposals, 5.3 marks, four clearances and 7.5 score involvements across six Coates Talent League games this year.
7. Leo Lombard
Gold Coast Suns Academy/Allies
While he is another player on the smaller side for a midfielder at 178cm, Lombard is hard-at-it and is a prolific ball winner. He featured in the Suns’ VFL premiership side as a 16-year-old last year and has continued to impress playing for multiple teams at different levels in the early part of this season – including another VFL appearance where he finished with 28 disposals. Lombard has a great workrate, is cool and composed with ball in hand and can be very dangerous around goal. He has been likened to AFL Rising Star nominee Jake Rogers, who has been working with Lombard and refers to him as being “like a little brother”.
8. Sid Draper
South Adelaide/South Australia
A powerful and quick midfielder, Draper starred as a bottom-age player for South Australia during last year’s under-18 national championships, winning the side’s MVP award. He has dazzling speed and elite workrate, allowing him to get from contest to contest and impact play. Draper – who looks up to Port Adelaide pair Connor Rozee and Zak Butters – missed the start of this season with stress fractures in his shin, but returned to fitness in time to captain his state in its first match of this year’s national championships.
9. Taj Hotton
Sandringham Dragons/Vic Metro
A big improver this year, Hotton had some monster games in the early part of the season playing a variety of roles. He took his endurance to another level over the off-season, opening the door for more midfield minutes after spending most of last year across half-forward. The son of former Carlton and Collingwood player Trent, Hotton is dangerous and creative when in the forward half and averaged 28.7 disposals and 1.7 goals from his first three Coates Talent League games this year. Those performances saw him included as an injury replacement player for the AFL Academy’s first exhibition match against Coburg in April, where he again impressed with 18 disposals and two goals. Hotton will miss the rest of the year after rupturing his ACL at training in May, but he is still expected to be a high draft pick in November.
10. Matt Whitlock
Murray Bushrangers/Vic Country
A 197cm key position player, Whitlock has shown incredible ability at both ends of the ground this year. He started the season in defence for the Bushrangers, averaging 16.7 disposals, seven marks and 2.7 spoils across the first three games. Whitlock was then shifted forward and kicked five goals in his first game, before bagging another five majors just a few weeks later. He received a late call-up as an injury replacement player for the AFL Academy’s second match against Footscray VFL in April, where he was again able to show some exciting signs of things to come. Whitlock has a great ability to read the play, is impressive one-on-one, plucks plenty of nice overhead marks and generally uses the ball well.
11. Sam Lalor
GWV Rebels/Vic Country
The strong, bullocking midfielder has struggled for continuity in his draft year, sidelined in the pre-season with a hip injury and then encountering niggles in his foot and quad since. He showed off his forward craft in his first game of 2024 in APS football with Geelong Grammar, booting seven goals – six of those coming in the second half. Lalor played two games for Vic Country last season, tallying 17 disposals and eight clearances on debut, and averaged 20 disposals and eight tackles per game last year for the GWV Rebels.
12. Sam Marshall
Brisbane Lions Academy/Allies
A 185cm midfielder from the Sunshine Coast, Marshall relocated to Victoria for school and has linked up the Sandringham Dragons. However, he is playing for the Allies in the national championships and has made an eye-catching start to the tournament. Across the first two matches for the Allies, Marshall averaged 28.5 disposals, 5.5 marks, 4.5 clearances and 5.5 score involvements. An elite runner, he knows how to find the footy, makes good decisions with ball in hand and can hit the scoreboard. Along with playing onball, he has also spent time on a wing and across halfback this year. The Brisbane Lions will have first access to him in the draft as a member of their Academy.
13. Tom Gross
Oakleigh Chargers/Vic Metro
An explosive and powerful 181cm midfielder-forward, Gross can impact games in a number of ways. He is dangerous around stoppages with his burst speed and isn’t afraid to take the game on, while he is also a strong overhead mark and can push forward and hit the scoreboard. Gross was lively with 21 disposals in the AFL Academy’s first game against Coburg in April. He missed the side’s second match through injury, but has averaged 24.7 disposals, four clearances, four marks, 6.7 score involvements and one goal from three matches for the Chargers so far this season, along with juggling school football duties for Trinity Grammar.
14. Jack Whitlock
Murray Bushrangers/Vic Country
Whitlock started his season with a bang, booting 4.4 from 20 disposals, which saw him parachuted into the AFL Academy game. The rangy 200cm key forward kicked two goals in a solid showing against Coburg and has 10 majors across five matches for the Murray Bushrangers. Has been overshadowed by his twin brother of late, but there isn’t much separating the promising pair.
15. Joe Berry
Murray Bushrangers/Vic Country
An early-season bolter, 180cm forward Berry has certainly had an impact for the Bushrangers in the first half of the Coates Talent League season. The left-footer possesses blistering high-end speed, brings great creativity around goal, has one-touch hands at ground level and works hard up the ground to find the footy. Berry has kicked four goals on four separate occasions for the Bushrangers this year and sits as the leading goalkicker in the Coates Talent League, outside of mid-season draftee Will McLachlan.
16. Noah Mraz
Dandenong Stingrays/Vic Country
A Pies fan who got the chance to train with his heroes over the summer, Mraz has moulded his game on Darcy Moore — and there are certainly some similarities with his reading of the play and efficient kicking at 198cm. The Stingrays defender will miss another couple of months with a navicular foot issue, which he played through in four games in the Talent League and for the AFL Academy. He remains one of the best key backs in the pool.
17. Ben Camporeale
Glenelg/SA
The Carlton father-son prospect staked his claim as an early pick with a best-on-ground display in the U17 Futures game on grand final day last year. And he started the national championships in impressive fashion, winning 27 disposals, 19 uncontested possessions and six clearances in the Croweaters’ win over the Allies. The 186cm playmaker has a booming kick and can find the ball on the inside and outside.
18. Jobe Shanahan
Bendigo Pioneers/Allies
An exciting and athletic 194cm key forward, Shanahan is strong in the air, works hard up the ground and can kick a nice goal. He primarily played in defence with the Pioneers last year, but has been settled as a forward this season and booted four goals in his second Coates Talent League game of the year against the Murray Bushrangers. Shanahan also showed some good signs for the AFL Academy side in two exhibition matches in April, across which he kicked a total of three goals. Hailing from the NSW border town of Moama, Shanahan is representing the Allies in the national championships and impressed with 11 disposals, five marks (three contested), seven score involvements and two goals in the side’s second match against Western Australia.
19. Bo Allan
Peel Thunder/WA
Allan looks to be the top West Australian in a pool light on for top-end WA talent. The 191cm played the first two games of the WAFL senior season for Peel Thunder and played all four games for WA as a bottom-ager at last year’s championships. A defender or midfielder, Allan is athletic, competitive and reads the play well. Missed the first champs game with injury, but will be pivotal to WA’s when he is back out on the park.
20. Harry O’Farrell
Calder Cannons/Vic Metro
A 196cm key defender who reads the ball well and is an exceptional athlete, O’Farrell’s aerial ability is his biggest strength. He has clean hands overhead and can work off his opponent to take intercepts or win contested marks in a pack. O’Farrell’s size and mobility allow him to match up on a range of opponents, which included Jed Walter when he was playing as a bottom-age player in the national championships last year. O’Farrell looks up to GWS star Harry Himmelberg and is working on being able to play at both ends of the ground. He showed glimpses in the first AFL Academy match in April, but missed the second game with a calf injury.
21. Isaac Kako
Calder/Cannons
Kako is one of the most enjoyable prospects to watch in the draft pool. He is dangerous around goal, has speed to burn and can fly high for a mark. His goalkicking has let him down this year, kicking 14.21 for the season, but he has had plenty of forward-half impact, averaging 18 disposals and eight score involvements this season. Kako is part of Essendon’s Next Generation Academy and is of Iraqi descent.
22. Jonty Faull
GWV Rebels/Vic Country
A stress fracture in his lower back sidelined this 195cm key forward for the first half of the season, but he returned in style for the Rebels in round 10 of the Coates Talent League. Faull bagged 5.2 from 14 disposals and four marks in attack, reminding scouts what he is capable of. A Carlton supporter who looks up to Charlie Curnow, Faull is agile and strong overhead. As a bottom-age player with the Rebels, he averaged 13.1 disposals and booted 20 goals across 12 games. Faull could well climb these rankings with a big national championships campaign.
23. Logan Smith
GWS Academy/Allies
Smith shapes as the best pure ruckman in the pool. The Giants Academy prospect has dominated at Coates League level, averaging 27 hit-outs, 18 disposals and six clearances and has been solid in the Allies’ two national championships outings to date. Smith has a great leap and follows up well at ground level.
24. Xavier Lindsay
Gippsland Power/Vic Country
Lindsay has led the way for the Gippsland Power this season and has had significant impact forward of centre, averaging 26 disposals, seven score involvements and seven clearances per game. The Power midfielder enjoys getting his hands dirty and has a burst of speed from congestion that hurts opposition sides.
25. Tobie Travaglia
Bendigo Pioneers/Vic Country
Travaglia has had a superb start to the year for the Pioneers, earning him a call-up to the AFL Academy side. The speedster impressed with 15 disposals and four marks across halfback, and he has averaged 25 disposals, five marks and five tackles as a midfielder in the Talent League. He has gamebreaking qualities and his stocks will only rise if he can put together a strong national carnival.
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Jagga Smith had 32 disposals (18 contested), eight clearances and five score involvements for Vic Metro in their win over the Allies in the wet at Princes Park.
Potential No.1 pick Josh Smillie had 16 disposals (8 contested), seven score involvements and kicked 1.1 while spending some of his time inside 50 as a forward target
Christian Moraes had 24 disposals (8 contested), 6 inside 50s, seven score involvements, and 407m gained.
Potential top-five choice Sid Draper grew into the contest well and finished with 26 disposals and 4 clearances in SA's loss to Vic Country.
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Reckon we will look closely at Jagga Smith. High disposal getter, can find it.