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Title: Richmond vs St Kilda @ the M.C.G. --- Round 22, 2025
Post by: one-eyed on August 04, 2025, 11:46:02 PM
AFL Round 22

RICHMOND vs St Kilda


Saturday, 9th August @ the M.C.G.

Start time:  1:20 PM


https://www.afl.com.au/afl/matches/7147
Title: Re: Richmond vs St Kilda @ the M.C.G. --- Round 22, 2025
Post by: one-eyed on August 07, 2025, 11:37:40 PM
Richmond v St Kilda Preview

Lachlan Geleit
SEN
7 Aug 2025


I guess Nasiah Wanganeen-Milera is worth the price of admission.

Apart from that, there's not much going for this game apart from both sets of fans sniffing another potential win to finish off the season.

For the Tigers, after a few solid weeks, they came back down to earth last weekend on the Gold Coast, losing to the Suns by 84 points.

Even though the Tigers seem destined to finish somewhere from 15th to 17th, Richmond fans would be fairly pleased with how their season has gone with the young group picking up five wins and showing positive signs.

As for St Kilda, they can make it three straight here after two incredibly tight wins over both Melbourne and North Melbourne under the roof at Marvel Stadium.

The main man behind those wins has no doubt been Wanganeen-Milera with the young star all but certain now to lock in an All-Australian berth.

Even though the Saints have only won one of their last five at the MCG, they deserve to go in pretty warm favourites in this game.

While Richmond have a chance if their defence plays as it did from Round 18 to 20 where they gave up an average of 62 points, the Saints probably have a bit too much class, particularly in transition with Wanganeen-Milera and Jack Sinclair.

Realistically, the Saints should be leaving the ‘G with their eighth win of the season should they play anywhere near their capabilities.

Prediction: St Kilda by 30 points.

https://www.sen.com.au/news/2025/08/07/who-will-win-and-why-tips-and-predictions-for-afl-round-22
Title: Re: Richmond vs St Kilda @ the M.C.G. --- Round 22, 2025
Post by: one-eyed on August 09, 2025, 12:35:41 AM
Barrett stating the bleedingly obvious.

(https://resources.afl.com.au/photo-resources/2020/11/17/8a4c2df0-2497-41a0-85ac-8cab8feed48a/richmond.jpg?width=1511)

IF ...
Taranto, Lynch and Broad are the ins for Saturday's game against the Saints ...

THEN ...
surely the Tigers are a chance. Instantly, look a whole better on paper.

https://www.afl.com.au/news/1382066/sliding-doors-if-damo-wasnt-worried-about-the-pies-before-then
Title: Re: Richmond vs St Kilda @ the M.C.G. --- Round 22, 2025
Post by: one-eyed on August 09, 2025, 12:40:08 AM
'A lot to play for' against Saints

By Anna Pavlou
RFC website
8 Aug 2025


Richmond coach Adem Yze admits that the side took a backward step last week, but is refusing to allow it to carry over against St Kilda on Saturday.

The Tigers welcome back three veterans in Tim Taranto, Nathan Broad and Tom Lynch for the clash at the MCG, which offers a needed boost.

"We've got to make amends for last week's performance. We're looking week-to-week, we're not looking at a block of games," Yze said on Friday.

"We weren't happy with the way we performed last week. We felt like we took a step backwards.

"We get a chance to make amends this weekend, and all we're looking at is the way we'll play against St Kilda and provide a contest that our Tiger Army are proud of."

And while priorities aren't on September for either side, it hasn't dampened the spirit in Yze's men to compete.

"Both teams aren't playing for finals, but there's a lot to play for," he said.

"They'll be talking about the exact same thing, finishing off the season in the right way and hopefully we can just do it better tomorrow."

Excitingly, the playing group is also feeling refreshed after a week back at home.

"Our players have had a good week, they've got some energy and spirit, and we're looking to bring that tomorrow," Yze said.

But Yze knows he'd be silly to think a game against the Saints, who have been in strong form in recent weeks, will be simple.

"The last two or three weeks, they've (St Kilda) been really competitive. You can see what they did in the last quarter against Melbourne," Yze said.

"We understand their strengths and understand where our opportunities lie.

"We're in a process right now that we want to play a certain way. We'll go in backing ourselves and backing our system."

https://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/1853869/a-lot-to-play-for-against-saints

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Richmond (5-15) and St Kilda (7-13) are both out of finals contention, but the Saints are riding high on the back of consecutive wins inspired by Nasiah Wanganeen-Milera.

Like Hawthorn's Sam Mitchell before him, Yze said the St Kilda superstar had been giving him nightmares during the planning process.

"He had me up at two o'clock this morning thinking about it," Yze said.

"But we're in a process right now where we want to play a certain way and we'll go in backing ourselves and backing our system.

"We'll keep an eye on how much impact he's having."

https://www.afl.com.au/news/1383492/richmond-tigers-love-veteran-tom-lynch-playing-on-the-edge-star-st-kilda-saint-nasiah-wanganeen-milera-giving-adem-yze-nightmares
Title: Re: Richmond vs St Kilda @ the M.C.G. --- Round 22, 2025
Post by: ajGreen on August 09, 2025, 01:11:12 PM
Lyon highlighting Richmond has the older team
Title: Re: Richmond vs St Kilda @ the M.C.G. --- Round 22, 2025
Post by: Go Richo 12 on August 09, 2025, 01:34:15 PM
If there is a team more frustrating to watch than our own it’s a Ross Lyon coached team.
Title: Re: Richmond vs St Kilda @ the M.C.G. --- Round 22, 2025
Post by: Simonator on August 09, 2025, 01:35:36 PM
And as usual, leaders letting us down with poor skills
Title: Re: Richmond vs St Kilda @ the M.C.G. --- Round 22, 2025
Post by: Andyy on August 09, 2025, 01:35:41 PM
We're making them look pretty good so far
Title: Re: Richmond vs St Kilda @ the M.C.G. --- Round 22, 2025
Post by: pmac21 on August 09, 2025, 01:39:19 PM
This is pathetic.  No pressure.  Skills putrid.
Go man on man FFS. 
Title: Re: Richmond vs St Kilda @ the M.C.G. --- Round 22, 2025
Post by: Simonator on August 09, 2025, 01:39:29 PM
Basic skill errors from Vlastuin, Lynch and Mcintosh.

We really need to get the ball into the hands of our skilled players.

Title: Re: Richmond vs St Kilda @ the M.C.G. --- Round 22, 2025
Post by: Simonator on August 09, 2025, 01:43:14 PM
Short easy turnover now. So all our leaders can’t hit targets, what hope do we have
Title: Re: Richmond vs St Kilda @ the M.C.G. --- Round 22, 2025
Post by: Go Richo 12 on August 09, 2025, 01:49:20 PM
Freaken turnovers are killing us.
Title: Re: Richmond vs St Kilda @ the M.C.G. --- Round 22, 2025
Post by: ajGreen on August 09, 2025, 01:51:05 PM
Alix Tauru is v nice
Title: Re: Richmond vs St Kilda @ the M.C.G. --- Round 22, 2025
Post by: mightytiges on August 09, 2025, 01:52:05 PM
Quarter time

Richmond   1.0-6
St Kilda      3.2-20

Goal: Mansell


Well that was pathetic  :help. 22 mins to score and that goal is our only score :facepalm. Just 10 tackles = lack of workrate = bruise free footy. Lucky to be only 14 pts down.
Title: Re: Richmond vs St Kilda @ the M.C.G. --- Round 22, 2025
Post by: Tigeritis™©® on August 09, 2025, 01:55:47 PM
I don't know what Yze is saying to the boys but lack of intent comes down to the coach and the coaching staff.

If that crap is allowed at our club then the whole lot of them cap pee off and we need to get a couching group that have some base line standards that the team is expected to attain as the norm.
Title: Re: Richmond vs St Kilda @ the M.C.G. --- Round 22, 2025
Post by: one-eyed on August 09, 2025, 01:56:23 PM
St Kilda had 50 marks in that one quarter  :help.

Stats to 1/4 time:

Ross  7 disposals
Nank 6
Short 6
Sonsie 6
Kmac  5
Miller  5
Floss  5


Disposals     78 - 112 .... ( contested: 27 - 30 )
Efficiency%  71 - 79
Marks          29 - 50
Tackles          9 - 22  ::) :facepalm
Clearances   10 - 9 .... ( centre: 3 - 1 )
Inside 50s     9 - 14
In50 eff.%   11 - 36  ...... just 11% eff. going inside F50 :help
Hitouts        10 - 7
Frees            3 - 4

https://www.afl.com.au/afl/matches/7147#team-stats
Title: Re: Richmond vs St Kilda @ the M.C.G. --- Round 22, 2025
Post by: Simonator on August 09, 2025, 01:58:15 PM
Vlastuins disposal is shakey
Title: Re: Richmond vs St Kilda @ the M.C.G. --- Round 22, 2025
Post by: mightytiges on August 09, 2025, 02:00:23 PM
We were out and Trezise with no awareness stuffs it up.
Title: Re: Richmond vs St Kilda @ the M.C.G. --- Round 22, 2025
Post by: Simonator on August 09, 2025, 02:00:33 PM
I don't know what Yze is saying to the boys but lack of intent comes down to the coach and the coaching staff.

If that crap is allowed at our club then the whole lot of them cap pee off and we need to get a couching group that have some base line standards that the team is expected to attain as the norm.

Lack of intent comes down to the coaching staff? That’s stuffing stupid
Title: Re: Richmond vs St Kilda @ the M.C.G. --- Round 22, 2025
Post by: mightytiges on August 09, 2025, 02:01:38 PM
Balta  :gotigers

12 - 20
Title: Re: Richmond vs St Kilda @ the M.C.G. --- Round 22, 2025
Post by: mightytiges on August 09, 2025, 02:04:05 PM
Trezise won't use his left foot and it's stuffing the team up.
Title: Re: Richmond vs St Kilda @ the M.C.G. --- Round 22, 2025
Post by: Tigeritis™©® on August 09, 2025, 02:04:52 PM
Nank! Take at least 1 mark!!!! :banghead :banghead :banghead
Title: Re: Richmond vs St Kilda @ the M.C.G. --- Round 22, 2025
Post by: ajGreen on August 09, 2025, 02:10:42 PM
So poor by Ross
Title: Re: Richmond vs St Kilda @ the M.C.G. --- Round 22, 2025
Post by: Tigeritis™©® on August 09, 2025, 02:12:30 PM
That's what happens when you can't tackle.  :banghead
Title: Re: Richmond vs St Kilda @ the M.C.G. --- Round 22, 2025
Post by: mightytiges on August 09, 2025, 02:13:04 PM
Why kick it in the air Mansell? If he kept it grounded we had the numbers inside F50 at ground level. Lack of footy smarts. The turnover then gifts St Kilda a goal the other way  :banghead.
Title: Re: Richmond vs St Kilda @ the M.C.G. --- Round 22, 2025
Post by: Tigeritis™©® on August 09, 2025, 02:14:12 PM
They've put Dumb Dumb Balta in the ruck.  :clapping :clapping :clapping
Title: Re: Richmond vs St Kilda @ the M.C.G. --- Round 22, 2025
Post by: mightytiges on August 09, 2025, 02:14:20 PM
Another terrible kick inside 50 (Kmac)  :banghead.
Title: Re: Richmond vs St Kilda @ the M.C.G. --- Round 22, 2025
Post by: Simonator on August 09, 2025, 02:16:04 PM
Really impressive effort from Armstrong there. Stayed relevant in the contest
Title: Re: Richmond vs St Kilda @ the M.C.G. --- Round 22, 2025
Post by: mightytiges on August 09, 2025, 02:16:24 PM
Armstrong very good then and goals  :gotigers

But sheesh we burn our teammates across HF :banghead. Just lucky then.

21 - 26
Title: Re: Richmond vs St Kilda @ the M.C.G. --- Round 22, 2025
Post by: mightytiges on August 09, 2025, 02:19:23 PM
Nice throw ump  ::).

But another mistackle followed that and they get a goal out of it  :scream.
Title: Re: Richmond vs St Kilda @ the M.C.G. --- Round 22, 2025
Post by: mightytiges on August 09, 2025, 02:20:26 PM
That's what happens when you can't tackle.  :banghead
We are the worst tackling team in the league.
Title: Re: Richmond vs St Kilda @ the M.C.G. --- Round 22, 2025
Post by: mightytiges on August 09, 2025, 02:22:55 PM
That's a better kick Mansell  :gotigers

27 - 33


Credit where it's due. That was good umpiring with that advantage call.
Title: Re: Richmond vs St Kilda @ the M.C.G. --- Round 22, 2025
Post by: mightytiges on August 09, 2025, 02:27:41 PM
Great chasing Lynch  :clapping.   

Misses again though.

29 - 33
Title: Re: Richmond vs St Kilda @ the M.C.G. --- Round 22, 2025
Post by: Tigeritis™©® on August 09, 2025, 02:31:18 PM
Nank 0 marks first half  :help
Title: Re: Richmond vs St Kilda @ the M.C.G. --- Round 22, 2025
Post by: mightytiges on August 09, 2025, 02:33:06 PM
Half-time

Richmond   1.0     4.5-29
St Kilda      3.2     5.3-33

Goal: Mansell 2, Balta, Armstrong.


Not pretty but a much better quarter as we kept the game mostly in our forward half. If only we were smarter with our decision making going inside F50 to make the most of it.

Title: Re: Richmond vs St Kilda @ the M.C.G. --- Round 22, 2025
Post by: one-eyed on August 09, 2025, 02:39:09 PM
Stats to 1/2 time:

Sonsie 15 disposals
Ross    13
Banks  12
Hopper 12
Kmac  10
Miller  10
Nank   10
Taranto 10
Mansell  9
Prestia   9
Floss     9
Short    8
Young   8
Balta    7
Broad   6
Lynch   5
Trezise  5
Hotton  4
Rioli     4
Armstrong 3
Campbell 3
Brown   2
Green   0 ..... sub not used yet.


Disposals    175 - 221 .... ( contested: 65 - 64 )
Efficiency%   70 - 75
Marks          49 - 75
Tackles        24 - 46 
Clearances   20 - 20 .... ( centre: 5 - 3 )
Inside 50s    24- 23
In50 eff.%   29 - 30
In50 marks   4 - 5
In50 tackles  6 - 2
Hitouts        24 - 18
Frees            7 - 7

https://www.afl.com.au/afl/matches/7147#team-stats
Title: Re: Richmond vs St Kilda @ the M.C.G. --- Round 22, 2025
Post by: one-eyed on August 09, 2025, 02:42:28 PM
Richmond has trailed at half-time in 16 games this season, the most of any team, and has a win-loss record of just 2-14 in those games.

The Tigers pinned the Saints in their defensive half in the second quarter, having 68% time in the forward half and nine forward half intercepts, but they were unable to take advantage, scoring just 0.4 (4) from them.

https://www.afl.com.au/afl/matches/7147#timeline
Title: Re: Richmond vs St Kilda @ the M.C.G. --- Round 22, 2025
Post by: mightytiges on August 09, 2025, 02:52:05 PM
If the Taranto was dropping the ball, then so was Hill's ump ::).
Title: Re: Richmond vs St Kilda @ the M.C.G. --- Round 22, 2025
Post by: mightytiges on August 09, 2025, 02:55:40 PM
You have an open teammate leading and you burn him to kick long to a St Kilda mark  :scream.
Title: Re: Richmond vs St Kilda @ the M.C.G. --- Round 22, 2025
Post by: Buddysucks on August 09, 2025, 03:00:20 PM
The witches hat, Short is at his best again in defense.
Title: Re: Richmond vs St Kilda @ the M.C.G. --- Round 22, 2025
Post by: mightytiges on August 09, 2025, 03:03:18 PM
Hard work but we finally got one. Kmac goals  :gotigers.

In front! 

36 - 35
Title: Re: Richmond vs St Kilda @ the M.C.G. --- Round 22, 2025
Post by: mightytiges on August 09, 2025, 03:04:52 PM
Why play on Mansell?  :banghead

Title: Re: Richmond vs St Kilda @ the M.C.G. --- Round 22, 2025
Post by: ajGreen on August 09, 2025, 03:06:05 PM
Offer NWM a blank cheque
Title: Re: Richmond vs St Kilda @ the M.C.G. --- Round 22, 2025
Post by: mightytiges on August 09, 2025, 03:09:26 PM
Lynch kicking like he's missed 5 weeks of footy  :P.

Title: Re: Richmond vs St Kilda @ the M.C.G. --- Round 22, 2025
Post by: mightytiges on August 09, 2025, 03:10:26 PM
Seth you do that in the F50 not the D50.
Title: Re: Richmond vs St Kilda @ the M.C.G. --- Round 22, 2025
Post by: mightytiges on August 09, 2025, 03:11:21 PM
Geez we've burnt free teammates on transition today. The lazy long kick is causing the turnovers.
Title: Re: Richmond vs St Kilda @ the M.C.G. --- Round 22, 2025
Post by: mightytiges on August 09, 2025, 03:14:06 PM
Great bend on the kick Timmy  :gotigers

44 - 36
Title: Re: Richmond vs St Kilda @ the M.C.G. --- Round 22, 2025
Post by: mightytiges on August 09, 2025, 03:20:13 PM
3/4 time

Richmond   1.0     4.5      6.8-44
St Kilda      3.2     5.3      5.6-36

Goal: Mansell 2, Balta, Armstrong, McIntosh, Taranto.


You can tell it's a game between bottom 5 sides, but we deserve to be in front. Up to us now to bring it home.

Miller has been excellent so far.

Title: Re: Richmond vs St Kilda @ the M.C.G. --- Round 22, 2025
Post by: mightytiges on August 09, 2025, 03:25:05 PM
Soft goal. No one near NWM in the middle of the park :facepalm.
Title: Re: Richmond vs St Kilda @ the M.C.G. --- Round 22, 2025
Post by: mightytiges on August 09, 2025, 03:25:48 PM
3 up and no one down. Basics Tiges  :banghead.
Title: Re: Richmond vs St Kilda @ the M.C.G. --- Round 22, 2025
Post by: mightytiges on August 09, 2025, 03:27:33 PM
Lynch finally finds his radar  :gotigers

50 - 43
Title: Re: Richmond vs St Kilda @ the M.C.G. --- Round 22, 2025
Post by: Tigeritis™©® on August 09, 2025, 03:33:30 PM
Be great to see Nank stand up and take some grabs now either in defence or down the line intercepts.

Let's see if he can stand up as captain.
Title: Re: Richmond vs St Kilda @ the M.C.G. --- Round 22, 2025
Post by: mightytiges on August 09, 2025, 03:35:31 PM
Summed up our day. Just butchery going inside 50 :facepalm.
Title: Re: Richmond vs St Kilda @ the M.C.G. --- Round 22, 2025
Post by: mightytiges on August 09, 2025, 03:38:36 PM
We're making it easy for them. The turnovers this quarter are just killing us.
Title: Re: Richmond vs St Kilda @ the M.C.G. --- Round 22, 2025
Post by: mightytiges on August 09, 2025, 03:43:00 PM
We look out on our feet. Really soft last quarter.

Yze still hasn't used the sub Green.
Title: Re: Richmond vs St Kilda @ the M.C.G. --- Round 22, 2025
Post by: Tigeritis™©® on August 09, 2025, 03:46:22 PM
Kicks to a 1 on three  :help :banghead
Title: Re: Richmond vs St Kilda @ the M.C.G. --- Round 22, 2025
Post by: mightytiges on August 09, 2025, 03:46:35 PM
Seriously! Really poor kick Tim. We had 4 players free running at HF and we kick to a 1 vs 3 :facepalm.
Title: Re: Richmond vs St Kilda @ the M.C.G. --- Round 22, 2025
Post by: mightytiges on August 09, 2025, 03:48:56 PM
Kmac you had a better kick in Brown right next to you. Once again we burn our teammate :facepalm.
Title: Re: Richmond vs St Kilda @ the M.C.G. --- Round 22, 2025
Post by: Tigeritis™©® on August 09, 2025, 03:49:27 PM
Why why why why didn't helicopters Macintosh  give the ball to Brown  :help :banghead

What an idiot!
Title: Re: Richmond vs St Kilda @ the M.C.G. --- Round 22, 2025
Post by: Damo on August 09, 2025, 03:50:24 PM
Campbell was absolutely pathetic the last quarter .. horrendous
Title: Re: Richmond vs St Kilda @ the M.C.G. --- Round 22, 2025
Post by: ajGreen on August 09, 2025, 03:51:08 PM
That's what happens when you can't tackle.  :banghead
We are the worst tackling team in the league.

30 odd tackles for the game again. 

Unbelievable poor
Title: Re: Richmond vs St Kilda @ the M.C.G. --- Round 22, 2025
Post by: ajGreen on August 09, 2025, 03:51:55 PM
Seriously! Really poor kick Tim. We had 4 players free running at HF and we kick to a 1 vs 3 :facepalm.

Thought it was pretty good kick. Just missed
Title: Re: Richmond vs St Kilda @ the M.C.G. --- Round 22, 2025
Post by: mightytiges on August 09, 2025, 03:52:30 PM
Well if we wanted to tank that last quarter, we did our best to do it. Some absolute bizarre decision making.

Anyway, enjoy another meaningless late season win Saints that pushes you into middle of the ladder no man's land.
Title: Re: Richmond vs St Kilda @ the M.C.G. --- Round 22, 2025
Post by: Tiger Khosh on August 09, 2025, 03:52:32 PM
Seriously! Really poor kick Tim. We had 4 players free running at HF and we kick to a 1 vs 3 :facepalm.

Poor decision making but I continue to ask why are our players allergic to shepherding their team mates. He could have almost run that all the way to 30m from goal if any of the 3 team mates around him decided to shepherd the 1 saints player applying pressure.
Title: Re: Richmond vs St Kilda @ the M.C.G. --- Round 22, 2025
Post by: pmac21 on August 09, 2025, 03:54:23 PM
Did any of us really want the win in that one? 
Terrible game of footy. 
Enjoy the win Saints fans. 
Title: Re: Richmond vs St Kilda @ the M.C.G. --- Round 22, 2025
Post by: mightytiges on August 09, 2025, 03:56:19 PM
Seriously! Really poor kick Tim. We had 4 players free running at HF and we kick to a 1 vs 3 :facepalm.

Thought it was pretty good kick. Just missed
It missed because it was poor percentage kick to an outnumbered isolated teammate. We did it all day. Burning overlapping running teammates in space going the lazy long poor option to St Kilda's numbers.
Title: Re: Richmond vs St Kilda @ the M.C.G. --- Round 22, 2025
Post by: Tiger Khosh on August 09, 2025, 03:56:32 PM
A competitive loss is far from the end of the world especially with the risk of moving up the ladder but we lost the tackle count by 41 despite have 63 less disposals. There’s no real excuse for this other than a lack of intent/effort and you don’t need talented players for that.

Title: Re: Richmond vs St Kilda @ the M.C.G. --- Round 22, 2025
Post by: mightytiges on August 09, 2025, 03:58:09 PM
Seriously! Really poor kick Tim. We had 4 players free running at HF and we kick to a 1 vs 3 :facepalm.

Poor decision making but I continue to ask why are our players allergic to shepherding their team mates. He could have almost run that all the way to 30m from goal if any of the 3 team mates around him decided to shepherd the 1 saints player applying pressure.
Agree but that's another issue TK. We don't just do the basics like shepherding and tackling.
Title: Re: Richmond vs St Kilda @ the M.C.G. --- Round 22, 2025
Post by: ajGreen on August 09, 2025, 03:58:44 PM
Why would you not use the sub?

Yze cooked
Title: Re: Richmond vs St Kilda @ the M.C.G. --- Round 22, 2025
Post by: Go Richo 12 on August 09, 2025, 04:00:00 PM
A competitive loss is far from the end of the world especially with the risk of moving up the ladder but we lost the tackle count by 41 despite have 63 less disposals. There’s no real excuse for this other than a lack of intent/effort and you don’t need talented players for that.
63 less disposals of which all went backwards
Title: Re: Richmond vs St Kilda @ the M.C.G. --- Round 22, 2025
Post by: Go Richo 12 on August 09, 2025, 04:00:57 PM
Did any of us really want the win in that one? 
Terrible game of footy. 
Enjoy the win Saints fans.
Yes, me.
Title: Re: Richmond vs St Kilda @ the M.C.G. --- Round 22, 2025
Post by: mightytiges on August 09, 2025, 04:01:26 PM
Did any of us really want the win in that one? 
Terrible game of footy. 
Enjoy the win Saints fans.
Yep, a poor standard match which is why we almost won it. St Kilda were woeful. The only positive from losing that game is that we pretty much seal up two top 3 picks even if we beat Norf next week.
Title: Re: Richmond vs St Kilda @ the M.C.G. --- Round 22, 2025
Post by: Damo on August 09, 2025, 04:03:11 PM
Why would you not use the sub?

Yze cooked

Absolutely ridiculous
Title: Re: Richmond vs St Kilda @ the M.C.G. --- Round 22, 2025
Post by: mightytiges on August 09, 2025, 04:04:35 PM
Why would you not use the sub?

Yze cooked
(https://www.aspistrategist.org.au/wp-content/uploads/2025/02/20140304adf8439709_211.jpg)

VFL team also playing for a top 6 spot. Can Green now be a late in and play a full game tonight in the ressies?
Title: Re: Richmond vs St Kilda @ the M.C.G. --- Round 22, 2025
Post by: mat073 on August 09, 2025, 04:08:57 PM
Saints winning games in the seasons junk time .

It would have been nice to get the W , but it doesn’t matter.

We are highly competitive against mediocre teams. Another stepping stone .

I just hope this time next year we are winning these type of games .


Title: Re: Richmond vs St Kilda @ the M.C.G. --- Round 22, 2025
Post by: mightytiges on August 09, 2025, 04:13:09 PM
Final Score

Richmond   1.0     4.5      6.8     7.10-52
St Kilda      3.2     5.3      5.6      8.8-56

Goal: Mansell 2, Balta, Armstrong, McIntosh, Taranto, Lynch.


Port, Carlton & Melbourne will be happy. They've moved up a draft spot ahead of the Saints.
Title: Re: Richmond vs St Kilda @ the M.C.G. --- Round 22, 2025
Post by: Andyy on August 09, 2025, 04:18:08 PM
Did any of us really want the win in that one? 
Terrible game of footy. 
Enjoy the win Saints fans. 

Only game we want to win is the north one!
Title: Re: Richmond vs St Kilda @ the M.C.G. --- Round 22, 2025
Post by: ajGreen on August 09, 2025, 04:42:30 PM
Did any of us really want the win in that one? 
Terrible game of footy. 
Enjoy the win Saints fans.

Wanted to lose by a point but I ran into one of the young players this morning and felt bad about that mindset we
Title: Re: Richmond vs St Kilda @ the M.C.G. --- Round 22, 2025
Post by: one-eyed on August 09, 2025, 05:14:49 PM
Why would you not use the sub?

Yze cooked
Yze said post-game that it based on how the game was playing out and he decided not to use Green. He also added that we've previously not used the sub, so it wasn't something new.

VFL team also playing for a top 6 spot. Can Green now be a late in and play a full game tonight in the ressies?
Yze stated that Green can play in the VFL tonight if we decide to go down that path.
Title: Re: Richmond vs St Kilda @ the M.C.G. --- Round 22, 2025
Post by: WilliamPowell on August 09, 2025, 05:46:26 PM
Did any of us really want the win in that one? 
Terrible game of footy. 
Enjoy the win Saints fans.
Yes, me.

x 2

Title: Re: Richmond vs St Kilda @ the M.C.G. --- Round 22, 2025
Post by: Francois Jackson on August 09, 2025, 05:47:39 PM
why would we not want to beat those pricks?

weird logic. I wanted to win.

we would not have moved up so that cant be the reason.

terrible performance IMO. Some senior players like Balta and Hoppers had shockers.

Title: Re: Richmond vs St Kilda @ the M.C.G. --- Round 22, 2025
Post by: WilliamPowell on August 09, 2025, 05:50:13 PM
Seriously! Really poor kick Tim. We had 4 players free running at HF and we kick to a 1 vs 3 :facepalm.

Forget 4 blokes free

He was less that 40 metres out he could have kicked it himself

As for Kaspy  :banghead :banghead

I know the the draft picks are important but we should have won that game

And I peeved we didn't
Title: Re: Richmond vs St Kilda @ the M.C.G. --- Round 22, 2025
Post by: eliminator on August 09, 2025, 07:07:39 PM
 Really annoyed lost that game.
Title: Re: Richmond vs St Kilda @ the M.C.G. --- Round 22, 2025
Post by: cub on August 09, 2025, 07:50:34 PM
Always want to win
 💩  game

Feel sorry for stkilda supporters
They will never be anything
Title: Re: Richmond vs St Kilda @ the M.C.G. --- Round 22, 2025
Post by: Hard Roar Tiger on August 09, 2025, 08:18:53 PM
I’d really like a 6th win. History says the really rubbish teams sit at around 5 wins. 6 and more feels like a real improvement. We’re in that group with Dees, Bombers, Saints and Roos this year. Will be interesting to see who stays there next year and who improves
Title: Re: Richmond vs St Kilda @ the M.C.G. --- Round 22, 2025
Post by: one-eyed on August 09, 2025, 11:38:26 PM
Team Stats:

Disposals      332 - 394 ..... ( contested: 120 - 109 ; uncontested: 206 - 273 )
Efficiency%     72 - 76
Kicks            204 - 257
Handballs     128 - 137
Turnovers       61 - 56
Marks          100 - 151 .... ( contested marks: 11 - 7 )
Tackles          41 - 80  :P
Clearances     36 - 31 .... ( centre: 6 - 7 ; stoppages: 30 - 24 )
Inside 50s      41 - 43
In50 eff.%      39 - 37
In50 marks      7 - 12
In50 tackles   15 - 7
Hitouts           41 - 26
Bounces           4 - 7
One %ers       36 - 40
Frees              16 - 18

Individual possies:

Ross    26
Taranto 23
Hopper  20
Sonsie   20
Banks    19
Short     19
Vlastuin 19
Prestia   18
Mansell  17
Young    17
Broad    15
Miller     15
Nankervis 15
McIntosh 14
Balta     12
Lynch    12
Hotton  10
Trezise  10
Campbell  9
Rioli      9
Armstrong  8
Brown    5
Green   0 .... sub not used.

https://www.afl.com.au/afl/matches/7147#player-stats
Title: Re: Richmond vs St Kilda @ the M.C.G. --- Round 22, 2025
Post by: one-eyed on August 10, 2025, 09:57:14 PM
"Are you actually, genuinely trying to win?"

Kane Cornes fires up at Adem Yze for letting Nasiah Wanganeen-Milera run free against the Tigers on First Up:

VIDEO: https://x.com/AFL/status/1954496262662988087
Title: Re: Richmond vs St Kilda @ the M.C.G. --- Round 22, 2025
Post by: one-eyed on August 10, 2025, 10:23:53 PM
This made the Clangers segment on the fox footy show Bounce.

Taranto had Campbell running towards 50 on his own plus Lynch and Balta inside 50 free for the easy hit up. Instead, he went for Mansell vs 3 Saints defenders. 

(http://oneeyed-richmond.com/images/tactics/TarantoOptionsR222025.jpg)
Title: Re: Richmond vs St Kilda @ the M.C.G. --- Round 22, 2025
Post by: Wazza on August 11, 2025, 07:53:22 AM
Timmy just wasn't composed enough in that moment to sum up his options....
Speaking of TT, I wouldn't mind seeing him trialled around the half fwd line and move someone else into the middle. As poor as his kicking is, his goal accuracy is great. Have a similar role to what Lambert had?!
Title: Re: Richmond vs St Kilda @ the M.C.G. --- Round 22, 2025
Post by: one-eyed on August 11, 2025, 05:44:21 PM
AFL Report Card: Round 22

Will Faulkner, Catherine Healey, Ben Cotton and Jack Jovanovski
Foxsports
11 August 2025


RICHMOND

This was a game that got away from the Tigers; one that they’ll review thinking they should have sealed the deal. After doing all the hard work to overturn St Kilda’s early momentum and leading by eight points at the final change in what was a low-scoring affair, a lack of composure going forward undid Adem Yze’s side when it mattered most. Richmond ultimately won the contest and clearance battle in a testament to the way they stemmed St Kilda’s outside game, but an inability to generate enough quality entries, especially late, hurt. Fox Footy’s Jordan Lewis said of Richmond’s missed opportunities: “They had their chances going inside forward 50 on a couple of occasions but just couldn’t connect.”

In the votes

Jack Ross’ fruitful run in the engine room continued last Saturday, finishing as his side’s highest-rated player with 26 disposals and seven score involvements. Swingman Noah Balta was also impressive in the forward half with his competitiveness and consistent ability to bring the ball to ground from marking contests to provide his crumbing teammates opportunities in attack. Tom Lynch kicked just one goal on return but notched an equal-team-high seven score involvements, while Rhyan Mansell booted a team-high two goals on a low-scoring afternoon, was involved in six scores and typically applied plenty of defensive pressure.

Room for improvement

As has been a theme this season, the Tigers’ inability to tackle efficiently contributed to a losing effort. Richmond managed 41 tackles to St Kilda’s 80. In what was a poor start to the match, the Tigers allowed the Saints to play the uncontested game they thrive on, and while Adem Yze’s side was able to arrest most of their opponent’s momentum after quarter-time, St Kilda still finished with 67 more uncontested possessions and 55 more uncontested marks. But most importantly, Yze allowed Wanganeen-Milera to effectively do as he pleased when he moved to half-back after quarter-time. The call not to hard-tag the prolific star proved costly, with ‘Nas’ finishing as the game’s highest-rated player amid eight final-quarter possessions as the Saints overturned an eight-point three-quarter-time deficit.

Grade

C-

https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-2025-round-22-report-card-highlights-every-club-reviewed-and-graded-best-and-worst-players-stats-latest-news/news-story/ad401c794df8e4f982dedc042ad4b434
Title: Re: Richmond vs St Kilda @ the M.C.G. --- Round 22, 2025
Post by: one-eyed on August 11, 2025, 09:40:47 PM
Coaches votes (Yze & Lyon)

Richmond v St Kilda

9 Jack Sinclair STK
9 Callum Wilkie STK
5 Nasiah Wanganeen-Milera STK
3 Marcus Windhager STK
3 Jack Ross RICH
1 Ben Miller RICH

https://www.afl.com.au/news/1387915/coaches-votes-r22-star-mids-matt-rowell-and-jordan-dawson-close-the-gap-seven-perfect-10s
Title: Re: Richmond vs St Kilda @ the M.C.G. --- Round 22, 2025
Post by: one-eyed on August 14, 2025, 10:33:58 PM
Tigers’ burning question: Were Richmond reeeeaaaaaaaally trying to win with some of their weird decisions during the Saints game?

Richmond has had an extremely positive season when you look at their 2025 campaign as a whole, but according to North Melbourne champion David King, there were some perplexing coaching decisions against the Saints from Adem Yze.

The first of those, was the way they handled star Saint Nasiah Wanganeen-Milera who got off the chain in the second half. “In the second half he just ran around and did what he liked. If you really want to win the game… you can stop this,” King began. “He just took control of this game. 22 disposals in the second half, 19 uncontested. They look for him at every opportunity. If Richmond really wanted to win it, if they really were absolutely hell bent on winning this game, they would’ve locked him away.”

Further to that, King wondered whether or not the Tigers missed a trick by not activating Steely Green as the substitute. “If they really wanted to win it, it was under a goal for the last 35 minutes of footy, they would’ve brought their sub on,” he said. “I’ve just got my doubts as to whether winning was the absolute prime focus on the day”.

https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-2025-the-blowtorch-round-23-preview-every-clubs-burning-questions-analysis-stats-how-to-watch-on-fox-footy-latest-news/news-story/986ef7c532a96513e79c0123dc5c1750
Title: Re: Richmond vs St Kilda @ the M.C.G. --- Round 22, 2025
Post by: Andyy on August 14, 2025, 10:46:08 PM
No I don't think we were, to be brutally honest...
Title: Re: Richmond vs St Kilda @ the M.C.G. --- Round 22, 2025
Post by: Simonator on August 15, 2025, 01:04:10 PM
I like that we have been reluctant to tag. I think it’s good to back in our system and players. Obviously we aren’t at the level yet where it works well but it’s good to build habits. Remember we rarely if ever tagged from 17-20
Title: Re: Richmond vs St Kilda @ the M.C.G. --- Round 22, 2025
Post by: ajGreen on August 15, 2025, 01:46:49 PM
Still worried about finishing above the druggies
Title: Re: Richmond vs St Kilda @ the M.C.G. --- Round 22, 2025
Post by: Andyy on August 15, 2025, 03:29:12 PM
I like that we have been reluctant to tag. I think it’s good to back in our system and players. Obviously we aren’t at the level yet where it works well but it’s good to build habits. Remember we rarely if ever tagged from 17-20

Didn't need to tag back then, we were a better side.

Ross tagged Merrett and Reid when those two games were hotly contested and we won.

Saints was a winnable game and we didn't bother with NWM. That tells me there was low strategic motivation to win.

We might best Norf but that's it and it doesn't really matter.
Title: Re: Richmond vs St Kilda @ the M.C.G. --- Round 22, 2025
Post by: Tiger Khosh on August 15, 2025, 03:50:00 PM
I like that we have been reluctant to tag. I think it’s good to back in our system and players. Obviously we aren’t at the level yet where it works well but it’s good to build habits. Remember we rarely if ever tagged from 17-20

Didn't need to tag back then, we were a better side.

Ross tagged Merrett and Reid when those two games were hotly contested and we won.

Saints was a winnable game and we didn't bother with NWM. That tells me there was low strategic motivation to win.

We might best Norf but that's it and it doesn't really matter.


It will be good for the lols to have their first round pick and finish above them though haha
Title: Re: Richmond vs St Kilda @ the M.C.G. --- Round 22, 2025
Post by: Andyy on August 15, 2025, 04:32:35 PM
I like that we have been reluctant to tag. I think it’s good to back in our system and players. Obviously we aren’t at the level yet where it works well but it’s good to build habits. Remember we rarely if ever tagged from 17-20

Didn't need to tag back then, we were a better side.

Ross tagged Merrett and Reid when those two games were hotly contested and we won.

Saints was a winnable game and we didn't bother with NWM. That tells me there was low strategic motivation to win.

We might best Norf but that's it and it doesn't really matter.


It will be good for the lols to have their first round pick and finish above them though haha

That bottom few is locked for sure.

We categorically will not make up 4 points AND 5% which is about 100+ points if we won't concede a single score over the next two weeks lmao.

Dons will either lose to Saints/Blues by a lot or win very narrowly.

We might win narrowly against Norf at best but we'll get absolutely slapped by Geelong.

So we can take 2+3 to the bank while we get a nice look at the Whitlock boy this weekend who they traded us P2 for :D
Title: Re: Richmond vs St Kilda @ the M.C.G. --- Round 22, 2025
Post by: ajGreen on August 15, 2025, 05:20:43 PM
I like that we have been reluctant to tag. I think it’s good to back in our system and players. Obviously we aren’t at the level yet where it works well but it’s good to build habits. Remember we rarely if ever tagged from 17-20

Didn't need to tag back then, we were a better side.

Ross tagged Merrett and Reid when those two games were hotly contested and we won.

Saints was a winnable game and we didn't bother with NWM. That tells me there was low strategic motivation to win.

We might best Norf but that's it and it doesn't really matter.


It will be good for the lols to have their first round pick and finish above them though haha

That bottom few is locked for sure.

We categorically will not make up 4 points AND 5% which is about 100+ points if we won't concede a single score over the next two weeks lmao.

Dons will either lose to Saints/Blues by a lot or win very narrowly.

We might win narrowly against Norf at best but we'll get absolutely slapped by Geelong.

So we can take 2+3 to the bank while we get a nice look at the Whitlock boy this weekend who they traded us P2 for :D

Efc can easy lose the next 3 games by 300 points and they will be motivated to
Title: Re: Richmond vs St Kilda @ the M.C.G. --- Round 22, 2025
Post by: ajGreen on August 15, 2025, 05:33:26 PM
merritt sheil may out ..

Saints $1.17 ..
Title: Re: Richmond vs St Kilda @ the M.C.G. --- Round 22, 2025
Post by: Simonator on August 15, 2025, 06:02:27 PM
I like that we have been reluctant to tag. I think it’s good to back in our system and players. Obviously we aren’t at the level yet where it works well but it’s good to build habits. Remember we rarely if ever tagged from 17-20

Didn't need to tag back then, we were a better side.

Ross tagged Merrett and Reid when those two games were hotly contested and we won.

Saints was a winnable game and we didn't bother with NWM. That tells me there was low strategic motivation to win.

We might best Norf but that's it and it doesn't really matter.

I think it encourages you to worry about the oppo more. The best teams don’t tag… since when did we look up to a hapless saints team anyway?

Ross has always been an ultra defensive coach so it’s no surprise he tagged.

IMO it’s similar to what Mitchell did at the hawks.. focussed on their own game knowing they would suffer defensively but it sped up the process.