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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: one-eyed on September 05, 2006, 01:45:21 AM
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Gaspar in line for deal
05 September 2006 Herald-Sun
Jon Pierik
RICHMOND is tipped to offer veteran defender Darren Gaspar a new one-year deal.
The Tigers met Gaspar last week and a decision on his future is expected to be made either today or tomorrow.
Asked whether the dual All-Australian was a strong chance to be at Punt Rd next year, Tigers director of football Greg Miller said last night: "Of course, absolutely he is.
"He had a great year last year. I think he ran close to the best-and-fairest. This year he has had injury after injury. Sometimes injury is a product of age, sometimes bad luck. We hope it's bad luck."
If Gaspar, 30, returns, it's expected to be at a far reduced price than his current deal.
Gaspar managed just eight games this year.
Veteran Andrew Kellaway, who is yet to be offered a new deal, will also have his future decided within days.
http://www.heraldsun.news.com.au/footy/common/story_page/0,8033,20354378%255E19742,00.html
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looks like they will keep gas to play on the big power forwards and send chubba on his way
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looks like they will keep gas to play on the big power forwards and send chubba on his way
Yep.
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looks like they will keep gas to play on the big power forwards and send chubba on his way
Staggering :gobdrop
On balance if you ask who's been the better player this season - I would have thought it's a no-brainer.
I'll just add confusing and leave it at that :-\
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looks like they will keep gas to play on the big power forwards and send chubba on his way
Staggering :gobdrop
On balance if you ask who's been the better player this season - I would have thought it's a no-brainer.
I'll just add confusing and leave it at that :-\
thats not the issue wp
the fact is that long term, and short term, chubba, with all due respect, does not fit todays footy. chuba is not a kpp, even though he can play tall at times, he is a hbflanker. what terry wants are fast thinking and fast running half back flankers. we have joel, paddy, raines, sugar, polo, white, etc etc who can play fast running defensive roles. what we lack is a backman who can hold down a power fwd. gaspar is th eonly one we have, the only one, who has been plagued by injury. next yr after another solid preseason, we and terry would hope gaspars luck will change. schulz may drop down back also along with a recover thursfield. with joel raines paddy etc down back, there is no room for chubba.
if terry makes this call i congratulate him for making a tough but right decision. u cant keep an old player on a list just for sentimental reasons if he does not fit team structure anymore. i can guarantee u if we had another young bloke who could hold a power fwd, gas would be gone too
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thats not the issue wp
the fact is that long term, and short term, chubba, with all due respect, does not fit todays footy. chuba is not a kpp, even though he can play tall at times, he is a hbflanker. what terry wants are fast thinking and fast running half back flankers. we have joel, paddy, raines, sugar, polo, white, etc etc who can play fast running defensive roles. what we lack is a backman who can hold down a power fwd. gaspar is th eonly one we have, the only one, who has been plagued by injury. next yr after another solid preseason, we and terry would hope gaspars luck will change. schulz may drop down back also along with a recover thursfield. with joel raines paddy etc down back, there is no room for chubba.
Agree with most of that X but........... going by 2006 form and form only Chubba has had a far better season without the injury problems (prior to the hamstring of course) than Gaspar has had.
There seems alot of assumptions going on "if Gaspar's luck with injury changes" what if doesn't?
I actually find it hard to seperate the 2 of them to be honest.
if terry makes this call i congratulate him for making a tough but right decision. u cant keep an old player on a list just for sentimental reasons if he does not fit team structure anymore. i can guarantee u if we had another young bloke who could hold a power fwd, gas would be gone too
For me it's got nothing to do with sentimental reason - it is about who would be the better option in 2007 for the RFC if only one can stay and one has to go and for mineI'd be keeping Chubba.
In a perfect world I'd keep both of them because 1/ we may need the insurance back-up and 2/ whether this is good thing or not both of them are in top 30 players.
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i agree wp, yes, chubba has had a better yr, but does that mean he is better 4 us next yr than gas, not really. we dont know really what terry has in mind.
but in a perfect world, we would have 2 to 3 young kpp in defence coming through and we would get rid of both gas and chubba
imo gas, chubba, rodan, schulz, hall, tiv, moore, jackson should all be let go
and guys like cogs, tuck, hyde and krak should be used as possible trade bait to improve our list
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Schulz???? Are you kidding X?? He's a keeper for sure. Developing into a solid forward option. No good in defence, but has a great leap, takes a strong mark and can kick goals. Why would you want to let that go?
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Schulz???? Are you kidding X?? He's a keeper for sure. Developing into a solid forward option. No good in defence, but has a great leap, takes a strong mark and can kick goals. Why would you want to let that go?
we have cleve and limbach coming through plus whoever we get in this draft.
the reason i say this is because imo i dont feel jay has the work ethic and desire to bust his pooper to get to the top. yes he is a gr8 kick and good mark, but is as lazy as they come
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Agree WP that Chubba on form deserves to stay ahead of Gas but the decision isn't being made on form but rather position and who we have on our list to play those positions as X pointed out. Lack of KP defenders means Gas stays (and that's assuming he accepts a one-year deal) while an abundance of mid-sized running defenders means Chubba is replaceable. Chubba like his brother is courageous as they come but foot-skills and rebounding run are more important attributes of the modern backman and in a couple of years young guys like JON will be the future of our defence. I agree with X that Gas would be gone too if Thursfield hadn't done his knee. Gas stays temporarily almost by default.
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Schulz???? Are you kidding X?? He's a keeper for sure. Developing into a solid forward option. No good in defence, but has a great leap, takes a strong mark and can kick goals. Why would you want to let that go?
Didnt get a kick on the weekend ::)
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Schulz???? Are you kidding X?? He's a keeper for sure. Developing into a solid forward option. No good in defence, but has a great leap, takes a strong mark and can kick goals. Why would you want to let that go?
Didnt get a kick on the weekend ::)
Jackstar, Didn't he play mostly in defence on the weekend? As I said, he's no good as a defender but up forward he's been reasonably solid this season.
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Schulz???? Are you kidding X?? He's a keeper for sure. Developing into a solid forward option. No good in defence, but has a great leap, takes a strong mark and can kick goals. Why would you want to let that go?
Didnt get a kick on the weekend ::)
he looked very lazy and not interested on the weekend. he lost me then and there. mguane with all his faults came on and was busting his guts trying his heart out. i reckon mguane will be better value 4 us long term
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Schultz played mainly forward 50.
Spent 5 minutes in D50 in second Q.
He lost me
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Schulz???? Are you kidding X?? He's a keeper for sure. Developing into a solid forward option. No good in defence, but has a great leap, takes a strong mark and can kick goals. Why would you want to let that go?
Didnt get a kick on the weekend ::)
Jackstar, Didn't he play mostly in defence on the weekend? As I said, he's no good as a defender but up forward he's been reasonably solid this season.
they tried him down back because he was being killed up fwd and was playing lazy pathetic footy. when shifted down back he was worse and then mguane came on 4 him and showed jay what endeavor and trying means. jay is taking his afl career 4 granted
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I think the club is kidding themselves if they dont give Chubba another deal.
Sure we shouldnt offer him a heap of money but a one year performance based contract.
He isnt the kind of person to hold out for money, but last saturday was a clear indication of where we stand with our defence and i dont think we are in a position to let someone like Kellaway go.
I am all for letting the kids develop, but if they are not ready they arent ready.
And who knows how quick Thursfield will comeback. It took Gas a while to get over his knee fully and you never know what will happen with Will.
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Jays performances have been disappointing, plays 10 minutes a game, kicks 2 goals then disappears for the rest. Who knows whats happening with him ... why does he switch off or he isnt switching of where is he the rest of time?
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Humm and Kellaway delisted yesterday.
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I would rather us keep Chubba for another year. Until the young defenders gain some experience.
Sarge, shouldn't be let go, he needs to play in the f50 instead of the backline.
Jays performances have been disappointing, plays 10 minutes a game, kicks 2 goals then disappears for the rest. Who knows whats happening with him ... why does he switch off or he isnt switching of where is he the rest of time?
Maybe he is checking out the chicks in the crowd ;) Or maybe like me, he has a short attention span. Who knows, but if Terry sees it as a problem, I'm sure he will bring it up with him during the player interviews.
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Humm and Kellaway delisted yesterday.
Inside source/knowledge ST?
No surprise about Humm.
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I would rather us keep Chubba for another year. Until the young defenders gain some experience.
Sarge, shouldn't be let go, he needs to play in the f50 instead of the backline.
Jays performances have been disappointing, plays 10 minutes a game, kicks 2 goals then disappears for the rest. Who knows whats happening with him ... why does he switch off or he isnt switching of where is he the rest of time?
Maybe he is checking out the chicks in the crowd ;) Or maybe like me, he has a short attention span. Who knows, but if Terry sees it as a problem, I'm sure he will bring it up with him during the player interviews.
Well thats a commendable effort from the Sarge, as long as women are involved then I suppose its ok to play bad on a weekend ;D
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I think the club is kidding themselves if they dont give Chubba another deal.
Sure we shouldnt offer him a heap of money but a one year performance based contract.
He isnt the kind of person to hold out for money, but last saturday was a clear indication of where we stand with our defence and i dont think we are in a position to let someone like Kellaway go.
I am all for letting the kids develop, but if they are not ready they arent ready.
And who knows how quick Thursfield will comeback. It took Gas a while to get over his knee fully and you never know what will happen with Will.
:clapping :clapping :bow :bow :clapping :clapping
Exactly Bull
Actually I am looking forward to Yeah or Neah for Number 20 because if we get rid of Chubba then in the experience stakes down back we will have Gas and Hall to take on the monsters in the big body stakes :-\
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Gaspar gets one-year deal
06 September 2006 Herald-Sun
Mark Stevens
VETERAN Richmond defender Darren Gaspar was offered a new one-year deal today.
But defender Andrew Kellaway is considering his options after a meeting with coach Terry Wallace.
Gaspar, 30, has played 202 for Richmond since joining in 1996 from the Sydney Swans, where he played 21 games
Although Gaspar’s 2006 season was hampered by injuries, which restricted him to just eight senior appearances, the club still beleives he has a role to play.
"Darren’s record speaks for itself and he is very much part of our plans for 2007 and beyond,” Richmond’s director of football, Greg Miller, said today.
“We envisage future contracts with him being done on a year-by-year basis.”
The defenders are part of a final group of 10 players yet to face Wallace for the club's post-season review.
Wallace interviewed 20 players at Punt Rd yesterday, following on from a small group of interviews before Mad Monday celebrations.
The final 10 players to be interviewed are older members of the club's list.
Wallace has acted swiftly in the past, but said delistings might not be made for at least a fortnight.
"We won't be the first cabs off the rank this year," Wallace said.
Much of that is to do with the fact the Tigers are still unsure how much money they will receive as a bonus from the TV rights deal -- and whether there will be extra funding for rookies.
The Tigers entered this season one player short, but Wallace will not make any calls until he knows the list parameters he faces.
"I'm waiting on an answer from our board on what we can and can't do," Wallace said.
Meanwhile, TIgers assistant coach David Wheadon’s contract has expired and will not be renewed.
http://www.heraldsun.news.com.au/footy/common/story_page/0,8033,20362459%255E19742,00.html
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I think the club is kidding themselves if they dont give Chubba another deal.
Sure we shouldnt offer him a heap of money but a one year performance based contract.
He isnt the kind of person to hold out for money, but last saturday was a clear indication of where we stand with our defence and i dont think we are in a position to let someone like Kellaway go.
I am all for letting the kids develop, but if they are not ready they arent ready.
And who knows how quick Thursfield will comeback. It took Gas a while to get over his knee fully and you never know what will happen with Will.
:clapping :clapping :bow :bow :clapping :clapping
Exactly Bull
Actually I am looking forward to Yeah or Neah for Number 20 because if we get rid of Chubba then in the experience stakes down back we will have Gas and Hall to take on the monsters in the big body stakes :-\
Razor being contracted until next year probably saved him. Well as far as being delisted.
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Razor being contracted until next year probably saved him. Well as far as being delisted.
Who said anything about de-listing ;)
Actually I thought he was out of contract this year - but I cannot keep up with sometimes
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"Darren’s record speaks for itself and he is very much part of our plans for 2007 and beyond,” Richmond’s director of football, Greg Miller, said today.
“We envisage future contracts with him being done on a year-by-year basis.”
Congrats to Gas.
The Tigers entered this season one player short, but Wallace will not make any calls until he knows the list parameters he faces.
One short? ???
Meanwhile, TIgers assistant coach David Wheadon’s contract has expired and will not be renewed.
The clown beedee on BF reckons we are getting "someone from the WEST" to replace Wheadon.
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The clown beedee on BF reckons we are getting "someone from the WEST" to replace Wheadon.
Could Ash Prescott be heading home? :shh ;) ;D
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The clown beedee on BF reckons we are getting "someone from the WEST" to replace Wheadon.
Could Ash Prescott be heading home? :shh ;) ;D
He's done well at Claremont.
Moi is going to be ticked off with all these ;) and :shh lol.
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SEN reporting Chubba is unlikely to be offered a new contract but a official announcement won't be made until October 31.