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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: Bulluss on April 07, 2007, 08:27:48 PM
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What are everyone's thoughts on Luke's game today.
I thought he was fairly solid today, made a few mistakes but he is still very raw. I am not convinced that he will make it yet, but the time has come to play these type of players and finally make a decision on their future's with us.
Luke certainly stood up in a few situations where i thought he would have been beaten today.
Hopefully over the season he may develop enough to hold down a regular spot.
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Luke has a lot of potential. Great athletic ability, great motor and a terrific set of hands. Still very raw but and prone to making mistakes. But in time I think he could become a very solid and versatile KPP
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Still big question marks over Luke as with Moore but so far I'm reasonably satisfied with both their games this year so far. They've done the jobs Plough has asked them to do and our backline hasn't leaked like a sieve.
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both luke and moore will make it.
their mistakes are mainly due to lack of experience and confidence.
they are puting their bods in and running hard and are both quick and athletic.
we are going to need these types of tall athletes to compete with teams such as geelong.
their fwd line and young kids were effing freakish last night.
we were just unlucky we played the blues at their peak.
the real carlton showed last night.
anyway we all doubted luke and moore, its still early days , but if they keep this form up and improve bit by bit, they will become classy defenders with rebound run
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Moore should have gone, been in the system for long enough. not tall enough to hold down a key position forward or back, and does not give us any run, a very stop start player, not what i would think is in terry's game plan. so why play or keep him, give JON a go, i would rather he make a mistake and learn from it, than MOORE who is making the same mistakes still. so long as LUKE McGUANE shows some improvement each week, he should been in the side each week.
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Moore .... and does not give us any run, a very stop start player, not what i would think is in terry's game plan.
I think you need to take a longer look at Moore. "any run"? You're way off the mark on that one.
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Moore .... and does not give us any run, a very stop start player, not what i would think is in terry's game plan.
I think you need to take a longer look at Moore. "any run"? You're way off the mark on that one.
i agree, moore is fast and can run and has shown that. some ppl i think are taking his game for granted. he thumped okeefe, moore only made one mistake on him where he did not man him up goal side and okeefe capitalised. apart from that, moore owned him!
and that sno mean fete, okeefe is an A grade player
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I'm still not sold on Moore and never was a big fan. Just not special enough to make it IMHO
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I am not convinced on either Moore or McGuane.
But in regards to Moore, i have always thought that he is a fantastic reader of the footy and can/will peel of his opponent if he thinks he has been dragged under the flight of the footy.
Still got a long way to go before he is a regular but stranger things have happened.
Most of us were calling for Pettifer's head 3 years ago.
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Most of us were calling for Pettifer's head 3 years ago.
A few noisy people is not most. ;)
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Plough says he's amazed with Luke and how he's fitted into the side and done a "strong job". Terry didn't think 6 weeks ago McGuane would play senior footy in the first month. While the coach is happy McGuane can consider his spot in the side fairly safe.
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been good so far
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How did we all see McGaune's game last night?
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fantastic overhead
extremely competitive
still very raw
only targets he could hit were men in black and white
keeper for next year
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Cant hit the side of a barn but his defensive work is fantastic. The defensive work overrides his questionable kicking. :clapping
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Still only a 3rd tall in defence. Still he was good last night.
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Wont make it, will be more destructive than constructive in future games especially against better opponents. Collingwood last night were really bad and made some of our players look better than what they really are and McGuane is one of those players. Get rid of him now.
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Disagree Roger I think he is a real goer and a handy player.
Has excellent defensive skills and is an excellent mark.
His kicking is suspect but it can improve over time.
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Disagree Roger I think he is a real goer and a handy player.
Has excellent defensive skills and is an excellent mark.
His kicking is suspect but it can improve over time.
i think his kicking is not as bad as many think, ok, he snuffs a few up, but i tell ya what, his kicking is far better than raines'
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Disagree Roger I think he is a real goer and a handy player.
Has excellent defensive skills and is an excellent mark.
His kicking is suspect but it can improve over time.
i think his kicking is not as bad as many think, ok, he snuffs a few up, but i tell ya what, his kicking is far better than raines'
kicking is borderline ok, plenty of improving to go, but last night is one he'd like to forget in terms of kicking. made tivendale look like a dead eye dick
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Disagree Roger I think he is a real goer and a handy player.
Has excellent defensive skills and is an excellent mark.
His kicking is suspect but it can improve over time.
i think his kicking is not as bad as many think, ok, he snuffs a few up, but i tell ya what, his kicking is far better than raines'
kicking is borderline ok, plenty of improving to go, but last night is one he'd like to forget in terms of kicking. made tivendale look like a dead eye dick
true but to lukes credit, his kicking improved as the game went on
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im not knocking the kid. IMO has something about him, it is just that kicking isn't his strong suit
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Luke's kicking efficiency is 61% according to Champion Data stats. 4th lowest ahead of Gus (50%), JON (55%) and Patto (60%) and just behind Tucky's (63%).
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needs to put weight on !!! ... will be good !!!
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excellent game... getting better all the time\
Bulk him up a bit and away we go :thumbsup
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Interesting to read on Y&B that McGuane said on SEN that he has been working a lot with Darren Gaspar. Not an official role, but through friendship. Gas put a lot of work into Will and Luke in the pre-season.
http://www.yellowandblack.com.au/forum/showpost.php?p=107134&postcount=1
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despite his deficiences as a player, Gas has done a pretty good mentoring role with Thursty and McGuane and both have really come on in leaps and bounds, esp Luke
keep up the good work boys :clapping
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Gas has done a pretty good mentoring role with Thursty and McGuane and both have really come on in leaps and bounds, esp Luke
Gas was a good full back in his prime, just could never kick.
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the thing that impressed me about gas was that he never looked like a strong fella but he could still hold his own against the strong forwards such as barry hall ???
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Gas was great at judging the flight of the incoming ball an getting a fist in. I would say Thursty and Lukey are showing good signs in that regard. The bonus with Thursty is he can kick (94% kicking effectiveness), run off and rebound as well which backmen need to do in modern footy. Gas was simply a (very good) negator.
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Good rehearsal for a final
10:17 PM Sun 26 August, 2007
By Russell Holmesby
for richmondfc.com.au
Young Tiger Luke McGuane treated the hyped-up clash with Essendon as a bonus.
“We didn’t think we deserved the opportunity to play in front of 90,000, considering the way our season has gone. But we had the opportunity and thought we would treat it like a final,” he said after the Tigers’ 27-point triumph.
“We just knew we had to stand up and, for a lot of us younger blokes, it was the first time we had ever played in front of a crowd anywhere near that size.”
McGuane was nervous during the week leading up to the game. “But once the game starts it is just another game,” he said. “It was a great atmosphere. The next time I play in front of a crowd like that I hope it is a final.”
He said Richmond had hoped to take advantage of the football world’s pre-game focus on the Bombers.
“We knew we could fly under the radar because it was all about Kevin Sheedy and Hird . We respected that, but at the same time we weren’t going to come out and let them walk all over us.”
There was a change of plan for McGuane when Essendon’s usual centre half-forward, Scott Lucas, strode to the opposite end of the field at the beginning of the game.
“I was supposed to start on Lucas but I actually started on Patrick Ryder. I played on the rucks for most of the day – Laycock and Hille. Lucas came down forward for about five minutes and Joel Bowden took him, and I went to the talls.”
Although McGuane didn’t have to confront Lucas, he has run the gamut of star forwards this year.
“The one I definitely remember is Barry Hall, which was a very good learning experience. So was Ashley Hansen earlier in the year. They are big names and have been part of sides that have won premierships. I was looking forward to playing on Lucas, but he played down back.”
McGuane said people who talked about clubs “tanking” had no idea, and the Tigers were hell-bent on winning next week against St Kilda and lifting from the bottom of the ladder.
“Now it isn’t Richmond’s worst season ever and it sets us up for next year. The last thing you want to do is win a wooden spoon, and you aren’t going to sacrifice your career. We really do believe we are a good side.”
http://richmondfc.com.au/Season2007/News/NewsArticle/tabid/6301/Default.aspx?newsId=49840
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This lad just keeps on improving IMO :thumbsup
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This lad just keeps on improving IMO :thumbsup
That's pretty much all that needs to be said about Lukey Mopsy. He showed how much he has improved yesterday since he last played a VFL game earlier this year. Now clearly above that level.
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This lad just keeps on improving IMO :thumbsup
That's pretty much all that needs to be said about Lukey Mopsy. He showed how much he has improved yesterday since he last played a VFL game earlier this year. Now clearly above that level.
just needs to improve his kicking to the level at which he consistently hits targets otherwise he'll be remembered as Chubba MkII for all the wrong reasons
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mcguane and thursty are of very similar build and look like playing similar defensive roles. It looks like one of them, most likely lukey, is going have to change their game so that both can play in the same team.
Mcguane played most of his junior footy as a leadup CHF in the Ash Hansen mould.
Anyone else think that it would be a positive step both for him as a player and for the team if he made the move to CHF?
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Lukey IMO is a 3rd tall defender similar to Andy Kellaway except Lukey will run and rebound more than Chubba. So he can still play in defence alongside Thursty. The bonus would be if Lukey could be moved forward like Polak can. That would make Lukey very versatile. He hasn't showed if he can as yet at senior level although we haven't really tried him up forward. He's only played forward a couple of times at Coburg and that was last year.
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If they kick the ball into the forward line the way Coburg did today,
we'll need him in the backline.
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id offer mcguane up to brisbane and see if we can get adcock.
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id offer mcguane up to brisbane and see if we can get adcock.
And what pick? ???
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With Schulz and Hughes struggling to have any impact whatsoever, it's certainly worth giving McGuane a go in the front half next year.
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Brian Royal's RFC player review
Luke McGuane
Luke’s come a long way in the last couple of years and had an interesting 2007, playing the first seven and last seven games. He did some terrific jobs for us as a backman later in the season and we’re really impressed with his development. One of the areas that let him down was his kicking, but he understands that, so will continue to work on that area to bring his kicking skills up to AFL standard.
http://richmondfc.com.au/Season2007/News/NewsArticle/tabid/6301/Default.aspx?newsId=52313
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How are we all seeing McGuane's season so far? A quiet achiever?
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I like him.
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My question is this - Is there room for: Thursfeild, McGaune, Moore & Rance in the same back 6?
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My question is this - Is there room for: Thursfeild, McGaune, Moore & Rance in the same back 6?
Maybe not but chances are you are going to have one out with an injury for any given period and as we are all becoming aware over last year and this - it's all about depth.
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My question is this - Is there room for: Thursfield, McGuane, Moore & Rance in the same back 6?
Good problem to have. They could all fit, it's not like they're all lumbering types of players.
I am a big fan of Luke, he has great aggression and tries his guts out all the time. His kicking is sound, but sometimes comes unstuck under pressure. With experience he'll take the right option more often than not.
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My question is this - Is there room for: Thursfield, McGuane, Moore & Rance in the same back 6?
Good problem to have. They could all fit, it's not like they're all lumbering types of players.
I am a big fan of Luke, he has great aggression and tries his guts out all the time. His kicking is sound, but sometimes comes unstuck under pressure. With experience he'll take the right option more often than not.
They are all Wallace type defenders that he has been building. Tall (190cm+), athletic, quick, skillfull types. With those 4 big blokes we should be able to match up pretty well on sides. King as the nutter back pocket and hopfully a Newman / Connors the mid size general.
I see McGaune as a Egan / Morris tye. He has a good heart and I like his kicking action.
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Improvement graph has been heading in the right direction since he debuted.
Hits packs with everything he's got and whilst he's prone to making the odd mistake he keeps his forward very honest and is tough to beat.
He is a genuine defender and has excellent endurance.
I like the way the kid plays and don't see him being dropped any time soon.
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He stitched up Riewoldt as well. Is he Richmond's answer to Aaron Hammill?
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gee he is improving isn't he..
im really liking the progress of moore and Luke. Its a pleasure to see our defence finally take on opponents and win the ball.
Their field kicking lets them down a few times but they have many friends at punt Road.
Maybe our skills coach needs to be shown the door
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Its suprising how many positive opinions come out when you actually watch someone play rather than go by previous misconceptions :thumbsup Perhaps some OER-ites should start going down to the Burger games and watch guys like JON, Casserly and Graham, and from last year Moore, rather than regurgitate the same old crap :sleep
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Luke's improved out of sight from where he was 12-18 months ago. As wayne and others mentioned his kicking can be occasionally iffy under pressure but it's hard to fault him at the moment. Also the team's form has improved since he came back into the side for the Freo game (missed the first 3 games). Luke has justified the decision to play him ahead of Gas since round 5 last year.
My question is this - Is there room for: Thursfeild, McGaune, Moore & Rance in the same back 6?
Maybe not but chances are you are going to have one out with an injury for any given period and as we are all becoming aware over last year and this - it's all about depth.
Spot on smokey. Also having players competing for spots will only make them better in the long run. A good problem to have.
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Been great, I love how he is hard at it, he made a couple of mistakes on Saturday but they were related to him getting in front of his opponent and attacking the ball so you can't complain about that.
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Been great, I love how he is hard at it, he made a couple of mistakes on Saturday but they were related to him getting in front of his opponent and attacking the ball so you can't complain about that.
I like the fact he has some sh%t in him. When he tackled the Tomahawk and was given holding the ball - he gave it to him. Great stuff.
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The Age says 3-4 weeks for Lukey's hammy :(.
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Bad news for Luke and bad news for the club. Like the kid and the way he plays and comes at a time when he has played games in a row in terms of his development so its a bad dose of rotten luck for the kid.
With Thursty possibly touch and go for next week and now Lukey definentely out we may be a few tall defenders short next week when trying to combat the likes of Fisher Waite Fevola and co. Perhaps Rance should debut next week.
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Bad news for Luke and bad news for the club. Like the kid and the way he plays and comes at a time when he has played games in a row in terms of his development so its a bad dose of rotten luck for the kid.
With Thursty possibly touch and go for next week and now Lukey definentely out we may be a few tall defenders short next week when trying to combat the likes of Fisher Waite Fevola and co. Perhaps Rance should debut next week.
Yep l agree we are a developing club at present & need to bring Rance in for his debut against Carlton
the lad has played senior football in WAFL & VFL so its time for the big stage & the centenery is a good place to start :thumbsup but lets see how he goes today
Bad luck for Luke, dont we all just hate it when things are looking good that our key defenders are breaking down
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I hate to say this, but we need as many senior players against Carlton as we can that will allow us to run out the full game. Too many kids and we'll run out of legs.
I'm not advocating that we bring back guys like Tivendale, but if we debut anyone then it will risk us running out of legs as we already have a lot of kids.
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Please no more Tivs infamy lol.
Lukey must have done his hammy properly if they're saying he'll possibly miss 4 weeks instead of the usual 2-3 weeks.
I heard last week Thursty will be okay for next week so fingers crossed. Otherwise Sarge may have to come in and play in defence :-\.
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Luke McGuane (Richmond) hamstring
If scans confirm tear will miss 2-3 weeks.
http://www.realfooty.com.au/news/news/the-injury-report/2008/06/22/1214073056158.html
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Wallace has heaped praise on Lukey in his EOTT article. Here's a snippet:
"Luke has been our best defender against ‘talls’ ..... There was a time when we weren’t sure how far this gangly kid from Queensland would go. But through his dedication and hard work, he is now selecting himself in the senior side each week and is starting to gain genuine recognition."
He last mentions McGuane's jobs on Lucas early and the Bomber resting rucks later on in the game and the run down of Jetta to save a goal.
Read it here:
http://210.50.4.102/rfc/
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You scared the crap out of me one-eyed, I thought he'd done his hammy again
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Taken a fair while to develope, looks ungainly and at times has you pulling what little hair we have left out. For that reason , i like him
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Yep he's ungainly but he has those inspector gadget arms that come in handy spoiling. Did a decent job overall containing Bradshaw last night too.
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Yep he's ungainly but he has those inspector gadget arms that come in handy spoiling. Did a decent job overall containing Bradshaw last night too.
Don't forget his shirtfront! :clapping
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Yep he's ungainly but he has those inspector gadget arms that come in handy spoiling. Did a decent job overall containing Bradshaw last night too.
Don't forget his shirtfront! :clapping
He was fantastic last night, i reckon with Thirsty, McGaune, Moore that we could have a defence that will be the envy of a few clubs, if it isn't already
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liked what l been seeing from this lad McGuane, gives his best & can only get better with some extra muscle :thumbsup
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Yep he's ungainly but he has those inspector gadget arms that come in handy spoiling. Did a decent job overall containing Bradshaw last night too.
Don't forget his shirtfront! :clapping
I haven't :thumbsup
(http://www.gspimages.com.au/images/thumbs/main/155693.jpg)
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What are your expectations for McGuane in 2009 and what would be a good year for him?
Career so far:
Games Disposals Marks Tackles Rb50 1%ers CPs UcPs Err
2006: 2 4.5 2.0 0.0
2007: 14 11.3 3.8 2.2
2008: 16 12.2 5.2 2.9 2.4 6.2 0.9 11.8 4.2
http://finalsiren.com/PlayerStats.asp?PlayerID=1644
http://www.pro-stats.com.au/psw/web/player_profile?pid=2005092
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All 22 games, kicking improves and he KO's Milne, Fev, Medhurst, Thomas, Judd, Corey Jones, Lloyd and Franklin.
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All 22 games, kicking improves and he KO's Milne, Fev, Medhurst, Thomas, Judd, Corey Jones, Lloyd and Franklin.
Just Milne would do. No-one in the competition comes close to giving me the dark brown lumps like that little weasel. Any of the others on the list would be a mere bonus!
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22 games at CHB :thumbsup
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i would hope for more contested possessions, he is a year older and a year bigger.
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22 games at CHB :thumbsup
Agree WP, he is a KPP with ground level skills and should play all year
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Long term, he is the best of our "key 3". Hoping he can really nail chb this year.
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Luke's proving a lot of his critics wrong.
I thought his disposal improved out of sight in '08 as did most of his game.
He works hard at it and has a bit of genuine niggle.
I think he will become one of the best defenders in the competition in '09. :o
Gotta love MCG. :thumbsup
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If Luke can back up 2008 and play 22 games barring injury I'll be happy.
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Still needs to put on at least 5 to 8Kg's so he doesn't get bumped out of marking contests and packs against #1 power forwards.
Still needs a truck load lot of work, however if Croad can be an AA premiership player there is hope for Luke yet.
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Tiger take: Drought over
richmondfc.com.au
By Luke McGuane 4:48 PM Thu 23 April, 2009
I KNOW there's a lot of big issues around in footy at the moment and our club is probably leading the pack.
So I want to talk about something positive. Something exciting. Something new.
It took me 36 games to get it but I'm now off the list Will Thursfield is still on, just behind Josh Gibson at the Kangaroos: the AFL player with the most games without a goal.
It was good to eventually get one. I wasn't planning on going up forward, but then at the end of the game against the Dees we threw caution to the wind.
I thought we weren't going to win by staying back, so I thought 'Oh well, I'll take a risk'.
After my horrible effort from about 20 metres out against the Dogs, I was feeling a bit better with this one. I've always been a bit better from the longer distances because I don't get as nervous.
So I just laid back on it and thought I'd just give it everything. There wasn't long to go in the game, so if I'd chip-passed it off it was just going to burn up more time. I just thought I'd go for home.
The adrenalin was pumping because of the state of the game and I just really had to kick the goal. That was all there was to it.
After it went through, I was pretty excited and celebrated a bit because I thought we were still in the game.
I didn't know there were only 37 seconds left. I thought we had maybe another minute or two on the clock.
I should say there's no truth to the rumour that Richo is my kicking coach, despite missing that easy one in round three and booming this one home.
When I was younger, I used to get told when I played forward that I kicked liked Matthew Richardson.
I'd miss from 30 out in front and kick them from where I shouldn't. But no, he's not to blame here.
Sure enough, you kick one goal and people are talking about a move to the other end of the ground.
I'm pretty confident down back at the moment and I think our forwards will show how good they are very soon. There won't be any need for me to sneak into attack.
One of the great things about being down back right now is playing alongside Alex Rance. It's always great to get new blood into a team and Alex is terrific.
Anything he doesn't know he usually comes to either me or Kel or Newy and asks us what he should be doing.
He's going very well. His run off half-back has been great and you know he'll give you 100 per cent at every contest.
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/6301/newsid/75520/default.aspx
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It was good to eventually get one. I wasn't planning on going up forward, but then at the end of the game against the Dees we threw caution to the wind.
Not too sure about why they had to wait to the end of the game, but surely this week they will throw caution away right at the first bounce and play attacking football right throughout the game. It's not as if they have anything to loose as a playing unit now.
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Good to see he still has a sense of humour.
IMO he needs to improve. Been caught being a bit slack a few times although to be fair the relative openness of our defensive half (due to lack of pressure further upfield) has been startling at times.
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Going well is Luke.
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A lot of pressure on the kid he is only gonna benifit and improve from it.
The other younger kids should take a leef outta his book and just have
a fair dinkim crack no matter which way the game is going!!! :cheers
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A lot of pressure on the kid he is only gonna benifit and improve from it.
The other younger kids should take a leef outta his book and just have
a fair dinkim crack no matter which way the game is going!!! :cheers
Spot on Richogun, Lukey takes them on! He makes a few mistakes but he throws caution to the wind and takes risks. In other words, he doesnt play like a rabbitt stuck in the headlights like some others :thumbsup
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McGuane not keen on Gold Coast
29/07/2009
Paul Gough
Sportal
Promising Richmond key defender Luke McGuane says he wants to remain with the Tigers for the long haul amidst speculation he could emerge as a recruiting target for the new Gold Coast club.
"So to be honest it (a move to the Gold Coast) is not in my thoughts at the moment because I just want to enjoy my time here and have success with the Tigers."
Full story at:
http://sportal.com.au/afl-news-display/mcguane-not-keen-on-gold-coast-74894
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Nice repy Luke.
Good to see loyalty and belief in the team going forward.
Would hate to loose him now when he is comming into his prime.
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:clapping :clapping
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Luke's improvement since he was drafted has been unbelievable. We get bagged for not making the most out of the 2004 draft but people forget we selected McGuane at pick 36. Further reason to keep hold onto your 3rd round picks. If from the 2004 draft we end up with Lids, Blingers, Polo, McGuane and Thursty (rookie) becoming good 10-12 year players for us then we've done well out of it. If only all our recruiting each year was that good we picked up 5 AFL players per year.
If GC17 require a uncontracted Tiger then they can have what they are given at our choosing and who isn't part of our future.
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Why Is McGuane Still Out Of Contract?
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because we are probably looking for a decent draft pick from somewhere
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He was out of contract at the end of 2008 and got a new deal. 2 years seems to be the norm so I expect he is contracted for 2010.
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Could it be the meeting with Shaw, and McGuane is looking to go to the Pies?
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Could it be the meeting with Shaw, and McGuane is looking to go to the Pies?
very long bow youve drawn there Ned.
Mind you on another Pies front- we really should headhunt there recruiting manager- Derek Hine. Has done an outstanding job.
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2nd rounder for him would be nice.
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I think getting a 2nd rounder for McGuane in this draft would be well under the odds
A young athletic kpp defender for a punt on a kid in a weak draft most teams are looking to trade out of
Not a good idea, especially when you consider how terrible our defence will be without him
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Thats right, its hit and miss on the latter picks this year - a bit like the year we had 5 picks in the top 20. Draft picks need to be valued properly.
Not like the year we traded of 19 for McMahon, by the way don't worry about Selwood and Ward, we could have got Any Otten, Melbourne boy.
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Why would we trade McGuane given both his importance to our backline and is young age. We have to keep young structural player and try and trade peripheral players.
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Keep McGuane, trade Moore IMHO.
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I would keep both McGuane and Moore...also this year there are likely to be 2 KPP defenders in Josh Gibson and Maguire up for trade or movement...a third KPP defender would not have much currency IMHO
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Who said or where was it writtned that McGuane was out of contract ??? :-\
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Who said or where was it writtned that McGuane was out of contract ??? :-\
according to our "list management" section, he is out of contract this year.
:)
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is he?
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NO, he signed a 3 year contract ;)
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Good to hear that Jackstar.
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NO, he signed a 3 year contract ;)
3 years at 400k according to your good self :o
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Right ankle gone and on crutches
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damn, well book in goo's debut next game :shh
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Dreadfull news and it did look bad. Gourdis will have his shot now and lets hope the hell Moore comes good.
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AFL site's live stats saying it's Lukey's left (?) ankle and that he has either dislocated or snapped it ???
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AFL site's live stats saying it's Lukey's left (?) ankle and that he has either dislocated or snapped it ???
Pray its dislocated!
Funny how he gets caned a lot until he's injured!
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I would almost put my house on the fact it is NOT broken or even dislocated. I've seen a broken ankle live and the guy passed out lol.
McGuane looked to be in minimal pain until he tried to put weight on the leg. He looked pretty comfortable on the bench with his ankle on ice.
Certainly not the correct procedures for suspected breaks, especially for such a serious joint like the ankle.
Im no doctor but I think he's pretty safe with any bone damage.
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I would almost put my house on the fact it is NOT broken or even dislocated. I've seen a broken ankle live and the guy passed out lol.
McGuane looked to be in minimal pain until he tried to put weight on the leg. He looked pretty comfortable on the bench with his ankle on ice.
Certainly not the correct procedures for suspected breaks, especially for such a serious joint like the ankle.
Im no doctor but I think he's pretty safe with any bone damage.
There is no way on earth he could have run off the ground as he did if it was broken. If there is bone structure damage it could only be a hairline fracture at worst.
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He'll play our next game in 2 weeks 8)
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Since he was walking around after the game and waving the crutches around I dont think it will be that bad.
We need him playing and in good form just in case the GC come looking for a KPD.
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Anyone heard how his ankle is, have they mentioned it on any of the footy shows??
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Another disappointing game from Lukey. He's becoming a surplus player now. Not a first choice in defence anymore and although tried up forward isn't a forward.
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Another disappointing game from Lukey. He's becoming a surplus player now. Not a first choice in defence anymore and although tried up forward isn't a forward.
This isnt just one of my normal take the pee lets trade him post but we should trade him at the end of the year and try and get another half decent pick. we need some more classier mids and some forwards. mcguane isnt core to our next premiership side IMHO and can be replaced - astbury looking the goods at CHB.
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You only need two of McGuane, Moore and Thursty and McGuane is going worse than the others this season. We also got Astbury coming through who looks like he uses the ball better than any of them, Gourdis showing signs, Post has the build to be a dominating CHB if not the talent/application yet. If we could get anything for McGuane you would take it...
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some clowns signed him up for 3 years last october for $450.000
No club with half a brain would take him
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some clowns signed him up for 3 years last october for $450.000
No club with half a brain would take him
Hawthorn would be desperate for a key back Imho Jack.
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My heart wants me to sream at you all. Luke is one of my favorite players.
My head on the other hand is telling me that i have to agree with you all. If this is as good/bad as he gets its time to see if we can get anything for him at years end. :(
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Luke has done well from where he was when he first arrived but he's not going to be part of our next premiership. He doesn't have the natural smarts and skills needed to be part of a top 4 side and he's now no longer a key part of our key defence.
some clowns signed him up for 3 years last october for $450.000
No club with half a brain would take him
Hawthorn would be desperate for a key back Imho Jack.
Gold Coast has the cash and extra salary cap room. They also need experienced bodies around all the 18 year olds they have and will be drafting.
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Anyone wanna hazard a guess behind the coach sticking McGuane up forward and Thursfield up there as well at times, is he trying to see if the backline can survive without these 2 players or am I seeing to much into it?
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Anyone wanna hazard a guess behind the coach sticking McGuane up forward and Thursfield up there as well at times, is he trying to see if the backline can survive without these 2 players or am I seeing to much into it?
I reckon it is more likely Hardwick is looking to keep some structure in our forward line over the last few games. With Griffiths injured we lost our 2 tall forwards and as part of the learning for next year and onwards we need to get drilled into delivering to that planned structure of our future. The fact that McGuane or Thursfield are not going to be these options in the future is irrelevant as a teaching and learning exercise - what is more important is getting our running defenders and midfielders taking the right options and delivering effectively to those options. Thats how I see it anyway Ramps.
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Anyone wanna hazard a guess behind the coach sticking McGuane up forward and Thursfield up there as well at times, is he trying to see if the backline can survive without these 2 players or am I seeing to much into it?
The Thursty move would've paid off if Thursty could kick straight from those two shots in the space of 5 minutes after half-time. No wonder he's never kicked a goal.
Agree with smokey that is was simply Dimma trying to keep the same structures. I would've preferred to bring in a tall who has at least played forward rather than use a key defender in a fill-in role. Lukey is no forward.
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Mistakes like this can really hurt a club.
Between Mcguane and Mclovin we have spent nearly 1 Million bux for as i see it very little reward. :banghead :banghead
it is a massive price to pay and then we wonder why we are not operating a net profit.
Round 1 last year against the Blues was enough to convince me he is not in our best 22.
Gold Coast please FFS take him.
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yep lost faith in him early last season and nothings changed. This guy goes hard no question but is a bit of a dumb footballer with ordinary skills.
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Anyone wanna hazard a guess behind the coach sticking McGuane up forward and Thursfield up there as well at times, is he trying to see if the backline can survive without these 2 players or am I seeing to much into it?
I reckon it is more likely Hardwick is looking to keep some structure in our forward line over the last few games. With Griffiths injured we lost our 2 tall forwards and as part of the learning for next year and onwards we need to get drilled into delivering to that planned structure of our future. The fact that McGuane or Thursfield are not going to be these options in the future is irrelevant as a teaching and learning exercise - what is more important is getting our running defenders and midfielders taking the right options and delivering effectively to those options. Thats how I see it anyway Ramps.
Pretty much how I see it too smokey.
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some clowns signed him up for 3 years last october for $450.000
No club with half a brain would take him
Gold Coast have shown interest at bringing McGuane and Tippett back to their home - Gold Coast. There is at least 1.
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Anyone wanna hazard a guess behind the coach sticking McGuane up forward and Thursfield up there as well at times, is he trying to see if the backline can survive without these 2 players or am I seeing to much into it?
I reckon it is more likely Hardwick is looking to keep some structure in our forward line over the last few games. With Griffiths injured we lost our 2 tall forwards and as part of the learning for next year and onwards we need to get drilled into delivering to that planned structure of our future. The fact that McGuane or Thursfield are not going to be these options in the future is irrelevant as a teaching and learning exercise - what is more important is getting our running defenders and midfielders taking the right options and delivering effectively to those options. Thats how I see it anyway Ramps.
just an observation but I reckon I agree with Smokey more than anyone else on this forum. Always makes alot of sense. :thumbsup
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Anyone wanna hazard a guess behind the coach sticking McGuane up forward and Thursfield up there as well at times, is he trying to see if the backline can survive without these 2 players or am I seeing to much into it?
I reckon it is more likely Hardwick is looking to keep some structure in our forward line over the last few games. With Griffiths injured we lost our 2 tall forwards and as part of the learning for next year and onwards we need to get drilled into delivering to that planned structure of our future. The fact that McGuane or Thursfield are not going to be these options in the future is irrelevant as a teaching and learning exercise - what is more important is getting our running defenders and midfielders taking the right options and delivering effectively to those options. Thats how I see it anyway Ramps.
just an observation but I reckon I agree with Smokey more than anyone else on this forum. Always makes alot of sense. :thumbsup
Thanks for the compliment Mr T but maybe I should sign my missus up to the forum - she will quickly point out how often and how badly I can be wrong! After all, she's only been doing that for me most of my adult life. :o :'(
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Seems to have plateaued to somewhere just below good enough. Trade if possible.
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Anyone wanna hazard a guess behind the coach sticking McGuane up forward and Thursfield up there as well at times, is he trying to see if the backline can survive without these 2 players or am I seeing to much into it?
I reckon it is more likely Hardwick is looking to keep some structure in our forward line over the last few games. With Griffiths injured we lost our 2 tall forwards and as part of the learning for next year and onwards we need to get drilled into delivering to that planned structure of our future. The fact that McGuane or Thursfield are not going to be these options in the future is irrelevant as a teaching and learning exercise - what is more important is getting our running defenders and midfielders taking the right options and delivering effectively to those options. Thats how I see it anyway Ramps.
just an observation but I reckon I agree with Smokey more than anyone else on this forum. Always makes alot of sense. :thumbsup
Thanks for the compliment Mr T but maybe I should sign my missus up to the forum - she will quickly point out how often and how badly I can be wrong! After all, she's only been doing that for me most of my adult life. :o :'(
Mrs Smokey would probably turn out to be a better poster than you smoke - youre overated ;D
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Mrs Smokey would probably turn out to be a better poster than you smoke - youre overated ;D
You took the words right out of her mouth Ramps. :lol
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:lol
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fuckn hate mcgaune
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Heh. What a spud he is.
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Why what has he done now????
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CP.
Thursty is better
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Moore instant replacement
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Did ok tonight, best i have seen him play for a while i think.
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Actually i thought it was Mcguane's best game of the year.
His possessions were of a good quality and decision making spot on.
That being said will be happy when Moore comes in as his replacement.
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Actually i thought it was Mcguane's best game of the year.
His possessions were of a good quality and decision making spot on.
That being said will be happy when Moore comes in as his replacement.
McGuane plays even when Moore is back..... Played pretty well tonight.
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I thought I missed an injury given the bumped thread title. So I've merged it with the main Luke McGuane thread.
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Actually i thought it was Mcguane's best game of the year.
His possessions were of a good quality and decision making spot on.
That being said will be happy when Moore comes in as his replacement.
McGuane plays even when Moore is back..... Played pretty well tonight.
Lukey had his usual couple of brainfades in defence yesterday which cost us a couple of goals. One was that shot pass on the run across goal to a teammate who had a Freo opponent right up behind him and the ball was turned over.
We still need a bigger bodied defender. Too many instances last night of Tiger defenders all going up for the spoil and no one staying down because no one was confident of the other could spoil on their own. It cost us a heap of soft goals.
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McGuane will be on the Sunday Footy Show coming up later this morning for the review of the game
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Actually i thought it was Mcguane's best game of the year.
His possessions were of a good quality and decision making spot on.
That being said will be happy when Moore comes in as his replacement.
geez a few of those side ways handballs to richmond players about to get smashed were not great
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I thought he improved as the game went on but had a couple of shockers early that cost us goals.
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Prefer Moorey
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Lukey had his usual couple of brainfades in defence yesterday which cost us a couple of goals. One was that shot pass on the run across goal to a teammate who had a Freo opponent right up behind him and the ball was turned over.
Was that when he sauntered across the goals and handballed to Grigg who was covered? If so, it was a point to Pearce.
Can't recall him directly costing any goals.
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Actually i thought it was Mcguane's best game of the year.
His possessions were of a good quality and decision making spot on.
That being said will be happy when Moore comes in as his replacement.
geez a few of those side ways handballs to richmond players about to get smashed were not great
It was his best game amongst many average ones.
Thought Smokey's assessment was spot on.
He made some errors no doubting that but i was happy with his game.
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Lukey had his usual couple of brainfades in defence yesterday which cost us a couple of goals. One was that shot pass on the run across goal to a teammate who had a Freo opponent right up behind him and the ball was turned over.
Was that when he sauntered across the goals and handballed to Grigg who was covered? If so, it was a point to Pearce.
Can't recall him directly costing any goals.
Yeah, he cost us one in the 2nd quarter when he tried a fiddly pass to a temmate who was covered on the Melbourne members wing instead of booting it long and direct up the boundary line.
I still think he's our weakest link in defence, and I would rather we persisted with Astbury or Post.
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Playing ok and serving a purpose.
Still think he's ideal trade bait.
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Yeah, he cost us one in the 2nd quarter when he tried a fiddly pass to a temmate who was covered on the Melbourne members wing instead of booting it long and direct up the boundary line.
That's the one I'm referring to. It was a point.
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Playing ok and serving a purpose.
Still think he's ideal trade bait.
Morton and Conners are the players looking most likely at this stage to be offered up with McGuane and Tuck also in the frame. The GWS u17 player pick is looming large. A club that can secure a pick is likely to get an A Grade player.
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I could not stop laughing in the last quarter when he ran 50 metres almost losing balance through defensive fifty on the members stand side only to handball to a contest thirty metres up the line. It was awkward wayward and yet so funny.
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A couple of times, he had the ball but did not take the first option, held the ball back and sort of got into trouble. Wonder why he didn't take the first option. Was it because they were covered, or indecisiveness? Hard to tell from the TV replay.
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Playing ok and serving a purpose.
Still think he's ideal trade bait.
Morton and Conners are the players looking most likely at this stage to be offered up with McGuane and Tuck also in the frame. The GWS u17 player pick is looming large. A club that can secure a pick is likely to get an A Grade player.
thursfield might join that group
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A couple of times, he had the ball but did not take the first option, held the ball back and sort of got into trouble. Wonder why he didn't take the first option. Was it because they were covered, or indecisiveness? Hard to tell from the TV replay.
It was very congested and there weren't many (any) options. Having said that getting the ball as far away from the back line by kicking to a contest would have been preferable to being caught close to goals.
McGuane doesn't seem to have that creative flair where he can find a handpass or sidestep out of a seemingly unwinnable position which opens the play up and allows us to stream down the field. There are others in the team that seem to have that skill. :thumbsup
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I watched a replay last night of the Geelong game, only watched the second half, couldn't bring myself to watch the first half. I paid special attention to Luke McGuane and can honestly say that he is one of the most inept inefficient defensive players we have. On just about every occasion he got near the ball he lost his feet. Generally his disposal by foot and hand is second rate and is overly clumsy in marking contests and laying tackles. Its taken me a little while to come around but this guy is VFL standard at best and the sooner he is moved on the better.
From our defensive zone the transition of play going forward is very important, its all about skill by foot and hand, both he hasn't got. I don't think there are many players who handball as badly as he does, its reminiscent of a 10 year old where the ball is heavier than they are. He is just not a naturally talented player, gutsy yes but that's not enough for today's game. Maybe he could have been passable in the 70's in a mud bath at Windy Hill but not today playing on pristine surfaces where above average skills are almost a prerequisite. I hope by seasons end Hardwick can see that as much as McGuane tries his heart out its a simple case of him not being a piece of the puzzle, Luke McGuane.......its time to go.
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Must find a way to have him not on the rfc list next season.
If rather thursty as the 44th player on the list
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Must find a way to have him not on the rfc list next season.
If rather thursty as the 44th player on the list
Don't reckon either will be at Richmond next year.
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I watched a replay last night of the Geelong game, only watched the second half, couldn't bring myself to watch the first half. I paid special attention to Luke McGuane and can honestly say that he is one of the most inept inefficient defensive players we have. On just about every occasion he got near the ball he lost his feet. Generally his disposal by foot and hand is second rate and is overly clumsy in marking contests and laying tackles. Its taken me a little while to come around but this guy is VFL standard at best and the sooner he is moved on the better.
From our defensive zone the transition of play going forward is very important, its all about skill by foot and hand, both he hasn't got. I don't think there are many players who handball as badly as he does, its reminiscent of a 10 year old where the ball is heavier than they are. He is just not a naturally talented player, gutsy yes but that's not enough for today's game. Maybe he could have been passable in the 70's in a mud bath at Windy Hill but not today playing on pristine surfaces where above average skills are almost a prerequisite. I hope by seasons end Hardwick can see that as much as McGuane tries his heart out its a simple case of him not being a piece of the puzzle, Luke McGuane.......its time to go.
Agreed. The only qualification is that he is tough as nails and on occasiosions has the ability to spoil when looking way out of position.
But yes, can't kick and should be upgraded when possible.
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Playing ok and serving a purpose.
Still think he's ideal trade bait.
lol dont be so optimistic this bloke has no trade value what so ever. if we are offered a pack of crispy cremes i suggest we should take it.
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GWS would take him.
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GWS would take him.
we can only hope.
just a hunch but i reckon lake walker scully and fevola are heading to gws and i know sheeds loves big hard at it mids tucky could find his way there. based purely on strengths and weaknesses let alone performance i cant see a blind man taking a punt on mcguane.
for me a real test of hardwick will be his willingness to get rid of out of contract long term underperforming hacks. will he do a frawley wallace or will he have the guts and be prepared to put his job in the short term on the line.
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GWS would take him.
doubt it, most 18y/o key defenders coming out of TAC cup are already as big as McGuane :lol
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true, but whatever they gave for him, they'd have lots more left still.
I can see tuck going to GWS.
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just something a little off the subject.
wce will play a kid called lycett this weekend. i wanted the club to activate its tambling pick because there was always going to be a lot of good picks around 27 which would have given us this bloke.
need a ruckman well hes probably not ready for the ruck or even afl for that matter but i suggest people have a close look at this kid imo he will be everything we want in a ruckman and we forewent the opportunity of grabbing him.
oh and mcguane sheesh undersized dumb as they come and poorly skilled cmon al if you were a recruiter you would not even look at him i know i wouldnt.
it was obvious 4 seasons ago this bloke was ordinary yet he survives really does sum our club up.
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we were going to take lycett with the very next pick
which is why we took batch a round earlier than expected
i think it was a smart move to bank that compo pick but can't really judge either way until we actually use it and see the outcome
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GWS wont have to pay much for mcguane. they will have picks to throw around galore. It's not as desirable a prospect as Gold coast and sheedy will be looking for experienced mature bodies and possibly struggling to find them without really paying way overs.
I'm more concerned that the club may actually want to keep him.
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we were going to take lycett with the very next pick
which is why we took batch a round earlier than expected
i think it was a smart move to bank that compo pick but can't really judge either way until we actually use it and see the outcome
i reckon there was at least 10 players taken not to long after batchelor that says we should have used pick 27. i dont care what anyone says 2010 was a strong draft and would have been a super draft if not for gc.
so we wait until 2012 before we even use the tambling pick and in the mean time a player like lycett is in our system for 3 yrs.or in this case wce. but thats right we dont need to find a ruckman or decent players for that matter.we have all the time in the world.
i will say this and i digress a little but the club does need to target some senior players next yr either cheap trades or from minor leagues we also need to get rid of 10 or 12 players shallow compromised draft or not.
lets be real just how much will our kids miss the guidance of such exalted leaders like mcguane thursfield jackson king connors morton miller graham white etc you could blink and not miss em. we could then do the same process in 2012 a so called strong draft getting rid of players this yr is not going to hinder us the following yr.15 20 24 have to go its a must the only question is which ones do you keep for experience and so called guidance everyone will have their choice but at the end of the day they all have to go and the sooner the better. better to try something else than keep on going with the same proven duds.
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GWS would take him.
I reckon they would too.
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GWS would take him.
I reckon they would too.
he could teach Folau the finer points of the game 8)
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Folau & McGawn, a fearsome combo to be respected
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master CHF imparting his knowledge to the convert
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Just try and imagine the decision making session :clapping
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:lol
Izzy has actually improved a lot
leading the GIANTS goalkicking despite playing in defence first part of the year
Already gone past McGuane
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Izzy has improved. Hes probably just gone past the likes of Brad Green and Schulzzztz
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You would be having a cry if one or two years from now some gun falls to pick 15 or so and we can't take him because we used thr tambling pick in earlier years.
just something a little off the subject.
wce will play a kid called lycett this weekend. i wanted the club to activate its tambling pick because there was always going to be a lot of good picks around 27 which would have given us this bloke.
need a ruckman well hes probably not ready for the ruck or even afl for that matter but i suggest people have a close look at this kid imo he will be everything we want in a ruckman and we forewent the opportunity of grabbing him.
oh and mcguane sheesh undersized dumb as they come and poorly skilled cmon al if you were a recruiter you would not even look at him i know i wouldnt.
it was obvious 4 seasons ago this bloke was ordinary yet he survives really does sum our club up.
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:lol Luke and izzy
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It looks like Luke is now on the outer with the selection committee if he isn't recalled despite season-ending injuries to Grimes, Astbury and now Batchelor. Even Postie and Thursty seem have gone past him in the pecking order. Interesting to see what happens now to McGuane over the off-season. He still has a year to go on his current contract so he can't be delisted.
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It looks like Luke is now on the outer with the selection committee if he isn't recalled despite season-ending injuries to Grimes, Astbury and now Batchelor. Even Postie and Thursty seem have gone past him in the pecking order. Interesting to see what happens now to McGuane over the off-season. He still has a year to go on his current contract so he can't be delisted.
Give him a massive over sized cheque now and kick his bony awse out of Punt Rd. Its like having Andy Maher sweeping the floor at Channel 10 next year. under contract but nothing for him to do.
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It looks like Luke is now on the outer with the selection committee if he isn't recalled despite season-ending injuries to Grimes, Astbury and now Batchelor. Even Postie and Thursty seem have gone past him in the pecking order. Interesting to see what happens now to McGuane over the off-season. He still has a year to go on his current contract so he can't be delisted.
Give him a massive over sized cheque now and kick his bony awse out of Punt Rd. Its like having Andy Maher sweeping the floor at Channel 10 next year. under contract but nothing for him to do.
Some might argue Maher would be more useful sweeping the floors at Ch 10 lol ;). At least with Carlton having lost and Judd having an ordinary game we haven't had to put up with him drooling over his beloved Blues tonight :yep.
I don't see us paying out McGuane if he's on 450k per year and when the Club is asking supporters for $$$ towards the footy dept via the FTF.
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Unless i see it written or confirmed i dont believe anyone is that stupid to sign him for 450k even Wallace and Miller.
I dont believe it but it is the RFC after all
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It looks like Luke is now on the outer with the selection committee if he isn't recalled despite season-ending injuries to Grimes, Astbury and now Batchelor. Even Postie and Thursty seem have gone past him in the pecking order. Interesting to see what happens now to McGuane over the off-season. He still has a year to go on his current contract so he can't be delisted.
Give him a massive over sized cheque now and kick his bony awse out of Punt Rd. Its like having Andy Maher sweeping the floor at Channel 10 next year. under contract but nothing for him to do.
Some might argue Maher would be more useful sweeping the floors at Ch 10 lol ;). At least with Carlton having lost and Judd having an ordinary game we haven't had to put up with him drooling over his beloved Blues tonight :yep.
I don't see us paying out McGuane if he's on 450k per year and when the Club is asking supporters for $$$ towards the footy dept via the FTF.
But we are paying anyway? Whether he gets paid $450k to play Coburg reserves or $300k to play for GWS it is money poorly spent by Craig Cameron.
As for Maher, can't wait to see him sweeping the Channel 10 corridor floors when Kerri Ann walks past "Kerri Ann, good of you for joining us, youre an out and out legend of morning TV without a shadow of a doubt, you'd have to think your an absolute monty for a gold logie this year, geez wouldn't that warm the cockles of our hearts...."
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:lol
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Unless i see it written or confirmed i dont believe anyone is that stupid to sign him for 450k even Wallace and Miller.
I dont believe it but it is the RFC after all
You will find that this is correct
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It looks like Luke is now on the outer with the selection committee if he isn't recalled despite season-ending injuries to Grimes, Astbury and now Batchelor. Even Postie and Thursty seem have gone past him in the pecking order. Interesting to see what happens now to McGuane over the off-season. He still has a year to go on his current contract so he can't be delisted.
Post has played one game this time around and it was NOTHING to write home about. Hardly say that is going past him. :banghead
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A game that's nothing to write home about. McGuane has about 80 of them under his belt
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A game that's nothing to write home about. McGuane has about 80 of them under his belt
Most of our players do hence the reason we haven't made the finals in 10 years.
If you think Post is the answer than you're a :wallywink
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A game that's nothing to write home about. McGuane has about 80 of them under his belt
Most of our players do hence the reason we haven't made the finals in 10 years.
If you think Post is the answer than you're a :wallywink
lol....Dude, if you think McGuane can play full stop then you are the :wallywink
Post has a brain, there's a start. He can also kick and take a decent grab, there he goes way past McGuane already! He is younger and has wayyyyyyyyyy more upside! McGuane has had his turn, he has failed miserably, Post's turn now to see what he has, I bet we will never see McGuane play in the yellow and black again ;)
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A game that's nothing to write home about. McGuane has about 80 of them under his belt
Most of our players do hence the reason we haven't made the finals in 10 years.
If you think Post is the answer than you're a :wallywink
Most likely, time will prove you to be horribly wrong.
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A game that's nothing to write home about. McGuane has about 80 of them under his belt
Most of our players do hence the reason we haven't made the finals in 10 years.
If you think Post is the answer than you're a :wallywink
Never said Posty was the answer. Hang poo on him if it makes you feel better about Lukey ;D I reckon Rance, Astbury, Grimes are our future and hopefully Post will finish up being a good player who can play at both ends.
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McGuane is a good kick AND can play CHF
Now I have heard it all
Be surprised if he can play hopscotch
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well smarty, go and look up his playing record at broadbeach.
Jack, spoke to Lukey a couple of weeks back and his move forward is on the cards. Anyone that thinks he will get delisted come years end is delusional!
Luke is better than some on here give him credit.
Imagine for one second how it would be playing in our backline, not Rutton or Jamison could stop that rot!
Luke's one of about 3 that actually have a go and has some, you know what in him...
"Spoke to Lukey" :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol LMAO
hey big tone, when is his move forward? Is he coming in next week at CHF? ;D He's on his way back to Broadbeach :cheers
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McGuane is a good kick AND can play CHF
Now I have heard it all
Be surprised if he can play hopscotch
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well smarty, go and look up his playing record at broadbeach.
Jack, spoke to Lukey a couple of weeks back and his move forward is on the cards. Anyone that thinks he will get delisted come years end is delusional!
Luke is better than some on here give him credit.
Imagine for one second how it would be playing in our backline, not Rutton or Jamison could stop that rot!
Luke's one of about 3 that actually have a go and has some, you know what in him...
"Spoke to Lukey" :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol LMAO
hey big tone, when is his move forward? Is he coming in next week at CHF? ;D He's on his way back to Broadbeach :cheers
Spoke to Lukey, he cannot play hopscotch. Trips over the chalk lines. FACT. :rollin
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Unless i see it written or confirmed i dont believe anyone is that stupid to sign him for 450k even Wallace and Miller.
I dont believe it but it is the RFC after all
its a load of poo lol
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Can tell you the $450 is correct .they were worried about GC getting him.thus his inflated wage
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Lukey McGuane turned 25 today :birthday
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Good on you Luke, all the best.
Let's hope you can have a great year..
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Good on you Luke, all the best.
Let's hope you can have a great year..
I hope he has an average one and that he gets delisted at the end of the season ;D
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Good on you Luke, all the best.
Let's hope you can have a great year..
I hope he has an average one and that he gets delisted at the end of the season ;D
That's not very nice 10 sgaF... ;D
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I see what you did there
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I see what you did there
:shh
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I see what you did there
:shh
noel :rollin
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What does Leon have to do with anything?
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Can tell you the $450 is correct .they were worried about GC getting him.thus his inflated wage
If it were true, for one year only and a front loaded event to satisfy the 92.5% rule I'd be tipping.
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Wonder if McGuane will be this year's Tuck/King and defy those who have written him off.
The more depth we have the better. Hope he has a sensational year.
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Luke McGaune will have a huge year
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Luke McGaune will have a huge year
Don't tell me..........He'll be playing at CHF :lol :lol
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Luke McGaune will have a huge year
Over his injuries?
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Who did Luke play for in the Possibles vs Probables game? Hope he has a good year but won't hold my breath. He showed a bit in 2008 and was good for some of 2009. Been poor since then.
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Who did Luke play for in the Possibles vs Probables game?
Probables (Green team)
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Bump.
Where to for McGuane from here?
Appears to be well out of the best 22 barring injuries to our key backs
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with any luck he will see out the year at coburg, putting pressure on those in the seniors but not being able to break in.
Thanks for the service and good luck to him in whatever he does for the future after that.
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saw Luke play yesterday down at kardinia park for coburg,and although only saw the last quarter of that game ,he did look just a bit too slow even at that level.Then again in my opinion posty didnt look much better in the senior game
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Appears to be well out of the best 22
Not sure about that, mate. The only player between Maguane and our best 22 is Post and he is far from a consistent. Key backs are still our major weakness.
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would swapping rance and posty be an improvement for now?..at fullback posty would more or less just spoil ,less scope for thinking his way out of trouble or creating ......anyway just a thought
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Post has shown more form in the pre season so far than what Luke has.
Luke was diabolical last week against Freo and his form for the last two or so years has been patchy and that is being generous.
I have no doubt that Post will be in the 22 against the Filth.
I think Luke unfortunantely has not developed the way we hoped he would a few years ago and is now being overtaken by blokes who have been able to develop better and adapt to the pace demands and discipline of holding down a key defensive position.
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McGuane is a known quantity, Post is in better form and potentially who knows how good he could be.
No brainer who's in the 22
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with any luck he will see out the year at coburg, putting pressure on those in the seniors but not being able to break in.
Thanks for the service and good luck to him in whatever he does for the future after that.
Agree old boy. TBH I reckon McGuane was a much better player when he was a young bloke. Showed plenty of good signs in 2008 and 09.
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Mcguane has never been big enough, height or body size, to play as a key back.
Post is a good size to hold down a key positio, the question is whether he is too slow and if he can apply more lateral thinking which is too one dimensional and therefore predictable
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Perhaps he could reinvent himself as a tall fwd?
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i am keen for the fella to play 100 games though he could have some pups down the track i am not sure how many he has played must be close to 100 ? or is it over?
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Just wanted to say welcome back to McG Banger as I know he frequents this site.
Will line up as our 2nd fwd tall tomorrow. Possibly could kick an octobag of Broadbeach Brim.
Oh yes. :clapping
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Just wanted to say welcome back to McG Banger as I know he frequents this site.
Now how could you possibly know that?
:wallywink
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Just wanted to say welcome back to McG Banger as I know he frequents this site.
Will line up as our 2nd fwd tall tomorrow. Possibly could kick an octobag of Broadbeach Brim.
Oh yes. :clapping
Desperate times call for desperate measures I'd guess :-\. Hopefully Lukey plays as if it is his last game (which it could possibly be) and contests hard in the air so Titch and Nahas can feed off him. He's as reliable a kick at goal as Miller is so no gain there :P, however hopeffully his backline experience at least helps him apply some forward line pressure (unlike Miller).
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I've got him down for 0 goals 4 behinds with my bookie.
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Good luck to cool hand luke, he could anything today, conditions suit :shh
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Just wanted to say welcome back to McG Banger as I know he frequents this site.
Will line up as our 2nd fwd tall tomorrow. Possibly could kick an octobag of Broadbeach Brim.
Oh yes. :clapping
Desperate times call for desperate measures I'd guess :-\. Hopefully Lukey plays as if it is his last game (which it could possibly be) and contests hard in the air so Titch and Nahas can feed off him. He's as reliable a kick at goal as Miller is so no gain there :P, however hopeffully his backline experience at least helps him apply some forward line pressure (unlike Miller).
At least he'll be kicking behinds from >35m instead of not making the distance
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Has already contributed more today than 4 quaters of Miller.
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Yep, has actually been pretty good, is a good foil and offers much more defensive pressure
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Agreed Coach been a lot more servicable
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bye, bye Brad. The Broadbeach bullet is back!
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Congrats to Luke.
He is a forward and he is better than Miller.
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Thought he was one of the very few positives to take out of today's game. Much more value than Miller and should hold his spot.
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Coach, just stop it, we called for this many months ago and te selection committee did not listen.
Good game fro mcg today. Solid!
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Coach, just stop it, we called for this many months ago and te selection committee did not listen.
Good game fro mcg today. Solid!
You also want us to put our players in mothballs and give up on playing finals despite saying there were no excuses not to at the start of the season :huh
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Coach, just stop it, we called for this many months ago and te selection committee did not listen.
Good game fro mcg today. Solid!
You also want us to put our players in mothballs and give up on playing finals despite saying there were no excuses not to at the start of the season :huh
Wow we just beat the Dees....look out....ffs
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Coach, just stop it, we called for this many months ago and te selection committee did not listen.
Good game fro mcg today. Solid!
You also want us to put our players in mothballs and give up on playing finals despite saying there were no excuses not to at the start of the season :huh
Wow we just beat the Dees....look out....ffs
Grow up , we had 7 changes from last week,missing half our best midfield , shocking week off field , we actually win & you still carry on like a spoilt brat, no wonder other posters dont rate you
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Luke was everthing today that Miller hasn't been. Well Done.
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its only taken RFC 6 years to work out he is a forward, LOL
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Just enough games left in the season to try and pump up his trade value IMHO
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Just enough games left in the season to try and pump up his trade value IMHO
Fair call
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Another trade Crazy Vossy got wrong. :wallywink
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Just enough games left in the season to try and pump up his trade value IMHO
Agree Ramps. Luke played his role okay today with 2 goals and is more mobile than Miller but still is not the future. We need footballers with class and brains in Y&B. McGuane brings effort but none of the other qualities that will make us a consistent finals side. From memory it was Luke who could have ran into easy goal yet inexplicitly handpassed sideways to a flatfooted Jack with Frawley right next to him. It shouldn't be a surprise that we bring back old names who had a line put through them and our team performance returns to the bad old days.
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McG was quite good. Couple of dumb decisions but that's McG. McG should remain in the side until someone better replaces him. Not sure there is someone who can...which is pretty stuffing sad.
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He's definitely be in the side next week. While he plays a role and kicks a couple of goals a week he'll keep his spot. We don't have much other choice either :-\. Thankfully it's Gold Coast next week. The only thing with Luke playing is he can't ruck so we either have to have big Ivan rucking all day alone or we bring in an inferior 2nd ruck :-\.
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He's definitely be in the side next week. While he plays a role and kicks a couple of goals a week he'll keep his spot. We don't have much other choice either :-\. Thankfully it's Gold Coast next week. The only thing with Luke playing is he can't ruck so we either have to have big Ivan rucking all day alone or we bring in an inferior 2nd ruck :-\.
You dropping Derrickx next week then? ;D He can ruck a bit. Hopefully Griff comes up next week.
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McG was quite good. Couple of dumb decisions but that's McG. McG should remain in the side until someone better replaces him. Not sure there is someone who can...which is pretty stuffing sad.
Some vintage mcg on the southern stand wing today, he won a free for in the back near the boundary, didn't hear the whistle and slapped the ball behind him oob, as he thought he may have been pinged for holding the ball.. I laughed bc if the ball was still alive like he thought it was, he would've been pinged for deliberate in typical douche mcg style. ;D
But all credit to him, he gave our fwd line a different dimension and no coincidence that jack had one of his best games for the year (except for the conversion bit)
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Coach, just stop it, we called for this many months ago and te selection committee did not listen.
Good game fro mcg today. Solid!
You also want us to put our players in mothballs and give up on playing finals despite saying there were no excuses not to at the start of the season :huh
Wow we just beat the Dees....look out....ffs
We've also beaten Sydney and they are top of the ladder but you're right our loss last week was worse than anything the Wallace era served so lets tank at 7-7 for draft picks and finish 7-15. :thumbsup
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Has already contributed more today than 4 quaters of Miller.
A hell of alot
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He's definitely be in the side next week. While he plays a role and kicks a couple of goals a week he'll keep his spot. We don't have much other choice either :-\. Thankfully it's Gold Coast next week. The only thing with Luke playing is he can't ruck so we either have to have big Ivan rucking all day alone or we bring in an inferior 2nd ruck :-\.
You dropping Derrickx next week then? ;D He can ruck a bit. Hopefully Griff comes up next week.
I could see Derickx getting another go against the Suns because our options are slim with all the injuries and suspensions but not against North the following week.
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Luke's unpredictable style is a liability on the back line and an asset on the forward line....think about it. 8) He also had their backman hearing footsteps and fearing a wayward, unco, suspension inciting elbow. ;D
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Coach, just stop it, we called for this many months ago and te selection committee did not listen.
Good game fro mcg today. Solid!
You also want us to put our players in mothballs and give up on playing finals despite saying there were no excuses not to at the start of the season :huh
Wow we just beat the Dees....look out....ffs
Grow up , we had 7 changes from last week,missing half our best midfield , shocking week off field , we actually win & you still carry on like a spoilt brat, no wonder other posters dont rate you
It was Melbourne you fool, the worst team in th league, grow up too, your later comments are that of a child....perhaps you are!
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Did all you could expect.
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He's definitely be in the side next week. While he plays a role and kicks a couple of goals a week he'll keep his spot. We don't have much other choice either :-\. Thankfully it's Gold Coast next week. The only thing with Luke playing is he can't ruck so we either have to have big Ivan rucking all day alone or we bring in an inferior 2nd ruck :-\.
Derickx in the side helped that yesterday. Maybe we need to bite the bullet and play Angus as a second ruck resting the forward line and Maric can help in defence when Graham goes on ball.
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Was at the game and thought McG actually looked quite at home in the forward line, definitely x1000 better than Miller. I was right behind the goals and though YES he's going to kick this !!! Then handpassed to Reiwoldt under pressure :banghead
Other than that, pretty good game !
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VIDEO: Roar focus interview with Luke McGuane ....
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/roar%20vision%20archive/tabid/11454/contentid/467887/default.aspx
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jackstar you were right, i apologise to both you and McG :bow
the broadbeach carey is here to stay
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needs to go come seasons end.
lets face it this is the last role of the dice for him playing forward. we need to fit in a ruck forward and any one of griffiths astbury elton in the near future.. theres just no long term place for him.
hes been a glass half full all of his career and remains exactly that. will say though id keep him over miller if it came down to it yet miller is only taking up a rookie spot.
white webberley mcguane macdonald and connors are the worst 5 on the list proper its likely (hopeful) we will cut more than 5 plus our fair share of rookies. miller heslin maric verrier.
its typical a reasonable game here and there and all is forgotten and over looked. there are some damn good reasons why hes in this predicament and struggled to get a game and they dont just magically fix themselves.
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needs to go come seasons end.
lets face it this is the last role of the dice for him playing forward. we need to fit in a ruck forward and any one of griffiths astbury elton in the near future.. theres just no long term place for him.
hes been a glass half full all of his career and remains exactly that. will say though id keep him over miller if it came down to it yet miller is only taking up a rookie spot.
white webberley mcguane macdonald and connors are the worst 5 on the list proper its likely (hopeful) we will cut more than 5 plus our fair share of rookies. miller heslin maric verrier.
its typical a reasonable game here and there and all is forgotten and over looked. there are some damn good reasons why hes in this predicament and struggled to get a game and they dont just magically fix themselves.
this is on the money.
lets give it a couple of more games
till he is driven out of tigertown. :thumbsup
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nooooooooo say it aint so boys
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needs to go come seasons end.
lets face it this is the last role of the dice for him playing forward.
Last roll of the dice?
The dice have already been rolled and Luke got snake eyes. His first kick on the weekend from 30m out that he missed sealed the deal.
There is no chance he will be at the club next season.
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So much disrespect for a favourite son.
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needs to go come seasons end.
lets face it this is the last role of the dice for him playing forward. we need to fit in a ruck forward and any one of griffiths astbury elton in the near future.. theres just no long term place for him.
hes been a glass half full all of his career and remains exactly that. will say though id keep him over miller if it came down to it yet miller is only taking up a rookie spot.
white webberley mcguane macdonald and connors are the worst 5 on the list proper its likely (hopeful) we will cut more than 5 plus our fair share of rookies. miller heslin maric verrier.
its typical a reasonable game here and there and all is forgotten and over looked. there are some damn good reasons why hes in this predicament and struggled to get a game and they dont just magically fix themselves.
Why cut verrier from the rookies as opposed to Wright and Darou?
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Verrier wont be cut. Good size, flexible mid option and improving. Just the type we need. Will be given another year for sure.
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jackstar you were right, i apologise to both you and McG :bow
the broadbeach carey is here to stay
Surely an octo-bag of sausage rolls is not far away for the G-Banger, no?
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needs to go come seasons end.
lets face it this is the last role of the dice for him playing forward. we need to fit in a ruck forward and any one of griffiths astbury elton in the near future.. theres just no long term place for him.
hes been a glass half full all of his career and remains exactly that. will say though id keep him over miller if it came down to it yet miller is only taking up a rookie spot.
white webberley mcguane macdonald and connors are the worst 5 on the list proper its likely (hopeful) we will cut more than 5 plus our fair share of rookies. miller heslin maric verrier.
its typical a reasonable game here and there and all is forgotten and over looked. there are some damn good reasons why hes in this predicament and struggled to get a game and they dont just magically fix themselves.
Why cut verrier from the rookies as opposed to Wright and Darou?
quite simply, having seen a bit of him i dont rate him. must admit havent seen him this yr so its a carry over thing from last yr. from what i gathered he has struggled abit at times this yr as well. size and footskills are two things that have concerned me. very skinny and every time i have seen him play hes absolutely butchered the ball.
darrou i have a bit of time for but he may take time to develop. piva is another big strapping kid with heaps to learn.
look at the end of the day if all three are retained great. i was only giving an example of the sort of list changes id like to see. i chose verrier because of what ive seen of him.
6 from the list proper and three rookies instead of 4 is there abouts.
i do think we should use 5 nd picks and our psd pick. i also think we should use 3 or 4 rookie picks. to accomodate this some one has to go but this is the main point not who may or maynot get the arse.
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fair enough
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The Claw, I was listening to the foxtel commentators on the replay of the melbourne game, they were say Mcgaune holds the current bench press weight record at the club?
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The Claw, I was listening to the foxtel commentators on the replay of the melbourne game, they were say Mcgaune holds the current bench press weight record at the club?
That's true.
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Claw, I would think 5 ND picks and a PSD pick would be the bear minimum this season. I believe we could turn over as many as 10 players this year including trades. I also believe in your philosophy on rooking a couple of mature age players, we really have missed the boat on this over the last couple of seasons.
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VIDEO: Post-match interview with Luke McGuane after his 3 goals in Saturday night's win...
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/roar%20vision%20archive/tabid/11454/contentid/476244/default.aspx
or
http://bigpondvideo.com/RichmondTV/476244/Post%20Match:%20Luke%20McGuane/
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:bow
keep on pressingMCG
You have been great
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with any luck he will see out the year at coburg, putting pressure on those in the seniors but not being able to break in.
Thanks for the service and good luck to him in whatever he does for the future after that.
Good vision Al ::)
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Jack, you're not welcome on board the McG train. He knows what you have said about him on here in the past. You bagged him last week too.
Get off the McG train. You are not welcome
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McGuane is a good kick AND can play CHF
Now I have heard it all
Be surprised if he can play hopscotch
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well smarty, go and look up his playing record at broadbeach.
Jack, spoke to Lukey a couple of weeks back and his move forward is on the cards. Anyone that thinks he will get delisted come years end is delusional!
Luke is better than some on here give him credit.
Imagine for one second how it would be playing in our backline, not Rutton or Jamison could stop that rot!
Luke's one of about 3 that actually have a go and has some, you know what in him...
"Spoke to Lukey" :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol LMAO
hey big tone, when is his move forward? Is he coming in next week at CHF? ;D He's on his way back to Broadbeach :cheers
;) ;) ;) ;)
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2011 is a long time ago. Luke knows you bagged him about his contract and he is not happy. Said you should grow some balls and confront people at the club if you have a problem with them. Instead you hide on here sniping from the sidelines.
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Posters bagged me for suggesting Luke play forward
Over 12 months later, guess what.
As for the bagging of last week
Quote , I said you cant have both Luke and Moore playing inside F 50 at the same time, which what occurred during the Blues game
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2011 is a long time ago. Luke knows you bagged him about his contract and he is not happy. Said you should grow some balls and confront people at the club if you have a problem with them. Instead you hide on here sniping from the sidelines.
Well thats funny, was happy to speak to me last week,
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No wonder why Terry punted you. I wonder what you'd say if you bumped into Hardwick
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MCG HAS A CRACK AND HE KEEPS THE BALL LOCKED IN WITH HIS FIERCE TACKLING
THERE ARE A HELL OF A LOT OF BLUDGERS BEFORE MCG
LOOK AT OUR INSIPID LEADER
JACK SHAME ON YOU BAGGING MCG :clapping
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No wonder why Terry punted you. I wonder what you'd say if you bumped into Hardwick
Read your messages !!
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Gus was pathetic. McGuane is still rubbish...Rance struggles to play key position. How the eff is Thursfield worse than these guys :help
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didn't stick up for Luke on this occasion, Jack?
No wonder why Terry punted you. I wonder what you'd say if you bumped into Hardwick
Read your messages !!
You sure don't act like "good friends" with Terry. I know it had nothing to do with money :lol
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::) ::)
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with any luck he will see out the year at coburg, putting pressure on those in the seniors but not being able to break in.
Thanks for the service and good luck to him in whatever he does for the future after that.
Good vision Al ::)
Not having a swipe at you Jack, but nothing wrong with what Al said here. If McGuane wasn't able to break into the side, it means we would have better players on the field, therefore making us a stronger team.
The fact he is getting games tells you how bad we are struggling with the injuries and our depth.
BTW, he can kick 5 goals next week, fact is he still isn't good enough to be on our list if this club is to be moving forward competitively. Constantly in the wrong position, when Jack actually does decide to lead McGuane runs to the same spot as opposed to dummy leading elsewhere. I think McGuane plays like he believes he is a better player than what he actually is.
Good on him for kicking 3 this week when the team wins by 50 points, but he isn't able to do the same when games are on the line (like against Carlton) so it's basically pointless isnt it.
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with any luck he will see out the year at coburg, putting pressure on those in the seniors but not being able to break in.
Thanks for the service and good luck to him in whatever he does for the future after that.
Good vision Al ::)
yeah, it was, wasnt it?
Sadly we didn't get the luck required to keep him at coburg,
He did put the pressure on at coburg though, but due to injury and poor form that pressure turned into a promotion.
thanks for highlighting that one jackie jackie :thumbsup
PS keep digging mate, there has to be something, somewhere there. ;)
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Well " genius"
He has been at punt road for 6 years and spent 99% of his games in the back half when recruited as a forward.who do you think is stupid then ?
Said 12 months ago that the club as early as round 4 last year contemplated in playing him forward
12 months later .Guess what .2012 he has played forward and gone okay
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Well " genius"
He has been at punt road for 6 years and spent 99% of his games in the back half when recruited as a forward.who do you think is stupid then ?
Said 12 months ago that the club as early as round 4 last year contemplated in playing him forward
12 months later .Guess what .2012 he has played forward and gone okay
do you really want me to answer that?
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Self assessment is the first stage of your recovery Al.hope you get the support to overcome your illness
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:lol
thanks for your concern.
I'm sure your own experience will enable you to give me the support I need in the ensuring dark days ahead.
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in a word DUD.
has to go at seasons end.
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PS keep digging mate, there has to be something, somewhere there. ;)
Think Jack is smarter than others give him credit for. When he knows his said something wrong and someone might dig it up, he changes his username so it becomes a harder task than it should be. Great thinking by the man and explains why his on his 20th account :clapping
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:lol
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;)
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Glad to see hom do something - but would like more consistency and would like to see him perform well against top 8 sides - as he did not perform against Roos and Blues.
But he has a chance to get some consistency against the Doggies, then really needs to step up against the Dockers and Bombers
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Broadbeach very interested in a trade
CC eyeing off some all you can eat vouchers for crummed calamari and chips in return
Sticking point is expiry date, CC wants 3 years
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You have your clubs mixed up
That's Sourhport Football Club that have the Calamari and Chips specials
Might add its a great bistro at Southport FC :thumbsup ;)
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Luke does his best. Been a good Tiger in that regard. I wonder where he'll be next season?
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You have your clubs mixed up
That's Sourhport Football Club that have the Calamari and Chips specials
Might add its a great bistro at Southport FC :thumbsup ;)
Sharkies, you're right :cheers
They did a great $4 roast last time i was there with the inlaws
:lol
Luke does his best. Been a good Tiger in that regard. I wonder where he'll be next season?
He does. Ripper bloke, gives his all, but a very limited footballer.
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Devonport do good food.
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Well " genius"
He has been at punt road for 6 years and spent 99% of his games in the back half when recruited as a forward.who do you think is stupid then ?
Said 12 months ago that the club as early as round 4 last year contemplated in playing him forward
12 months later .Guess what .2012 he has played forward and gone okay
Played ok?
:ROTFL
You don't have very high standards.
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Kicked 3 goals last week
How many Jack kicked ?
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Doesnt get much more shallower than that
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Jack is Luke still stamped??
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Kicked 3 goals last week
How many Jack kicked ?
That's funny Jack. :lol
Paul Abbott kicked 6 in the 1988 GF how many did Brereton kick?
Yep Paul Abbott is a better player by this assessment. :ROTFL :ROTFL :ROTFL :ROTFL
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Well " genius"
He has been at punt road for 6 years and spent 99% of his games in the back half when recruited as a forward.who do you think is stupid then ?
Said 12 months ago that the club as early as round 4 last year contemplated in playing him forward
12 months later .Guess what .2012 he has played forward and gone okay
cmon jack even you can work out if he was drafted in 04 this yr will mean hes been around 8 yrs.
do you think we have got value for his 8 yrs of service i sure as hell dont. isnt 8 yrs long enough for you or do you wish to remain mired in mediocrity. you wonder why we cant make finals look no further than the likes of luke.
if we had cut him after 3 yrs like we should have we could have tried another two players minimum by now and hopefully found a decent one.
hardwick is entering a critical stage imo. will he and his football dept correctly assess players and cut em or will he do a wallace and end up slashing his wrists backing in long term glass half full underachievers. we will see.
most of the players cut to date a blind man could see they needed to go now it gets interesting some who have to go arent so obvious.
ya know jack luke to the forward line has been tried before albeit for just a short while. its not position that sees him fail its the weaknesses in his game doesnt matter where you play him they are still there.
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Dimma saw something in Edwards.. saw something in King..
Called the card on Morton..called the card on Tambling.. called the card on Connors..
Would love to know his opinions on Luke. We'll soon find out.
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Interesting that the best footy Tambling and Morton have ever played was a poo load better than anything King and Edwards have produced. Hardwick kept Connors around for 3 years
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Been satisfied with the way he has been going lately, think they will keep him. But just don't swing him back :banghead
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Must have trade value now
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Yeah......No one is trading for McG.
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1 year deal.
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McGuane. Big strong marking player who can pick the ball up cleanly at his feet, kick goals from all angles and ranges, setup goals with slick hand passes and provides defensive pressure with strong tackling and chasing. Struggled with injuries last couple of years but unlike Vickery makes it on the field just about every week.
Can we fit him in our 22 with all the developing superstar power forwards we have? Griffiths. Could he be any slower, softer or more injury prone. Can he get the ball if he isn't kicking out? Couldn't outmark Skinner who was half his size on the weekend. Should look to trade him for a sausage roll. It has more bounce. Pick 19 on what planet? Then there is Post. Huge frame. Should make a tough Benny Gale like centre half back. Reasonable skills but incredibly scared whenever he gets the football. Unlike Griffiths, he can take the occasional mark. But if they don't do some electric shock therapy on him soon, he will be out the door Cleve Hughes style.
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McGuane’s forward revival
By Tony Greenberg
richmondfc.com.au
Tue 14 Aug, 2012
Defender-turned-forward, Luke McGuane, is providing valuable assistance in the Richmond side for star spearhead Jack Riewoldt.
McGuane has kicked 11 goals in six games since reclaiming his place in the Tigers’ line-up this season.
He’s scored multiple goals on three occasions...
Read the full article at: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/6301/newsid/144526/default.aspx
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Jackstar is in the process of being proven correct.
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Playing more like Ray Hall than Wayne Carey, but good on him :thumbsup
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Playing more like Ray Hall than Wayne Carey, but good on him :thumbsup
He's slowly working he's way up :thumbsup
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he's more effective than Jack
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Playing more like Ray Hall than Wayne Carey, but good on him :thumbsup
He makes Ray Hall look like the Duck
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:lol
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Hall would still get a game at CHB or CHF
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he's more effective than Jack
He's rubbish.
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he's more effective than Jack
He's rubbish.
harsh on Riewoldt. He won a coleman you know
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Jackstar is in the process of being proven correct.
:thumbsup :shh
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Schulzy > McG.
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It's amazing that McGuane will now most likely get a new contract :gobdrop.
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Jack goes alright.
Mcgaune is at best a back up. If we are building a fwd line around Luke we in the shyte
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It's amazing that McGuane will now most likely get a new contract :gobdrop.
Yeah but not with us :shh
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:shh
:shh :shh
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It's amazing that McGuane will now most likely get a new contract :gobdrop.
And next year we will have to listen to blokes calling him a list clogging spud that got a contract based on a few decent games. I have seen this many times before ;D
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From me! ;D
It's amazing that McGuane will now most likely get a new contract :gobdrop.
Yeah but not with us :shh
If his current goalkicking ways means another club is stupid enough to offer us a semi-decent pick or free agent compo then I'm all for it :yep.
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The AFL site has put together a McGuane blooper video from today :wallywink
http://bigpondvideo.com/AFL/480845/Tiger%27s%20blooper%20reel/
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Only one?
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That was on of the worst games of football ever witnessed by an AFL player. Seeya later Luke.
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Worst thing is it just undid his trade value ::)
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Some here have been calling for him to be played up forward for a long time. Well it has been tried a few times a year most years and it has never ever worked. Give up on it and move him on (trade or delist).
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That was one of Lukes best games🐴
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Bye Bye Luke, Delist.
Dud can't kick, cant kick a goal, what he does is second rate. Time to go.
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Some here have been calling for him to be played up forward for a long time. Well it has been tried a few times a year most years and it has never ever worked. Give up on it and move him on (trade or delist).
He's done well himself to last 8 years on an AFL list. Shows how many duds have been on our list that he's survived so long while others have gone before him. How Craig Cameron gave him a 3 year contract is one of the mysteries of the universe! :huh3. Papers stamped now after today's 'effort'.
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Luke epitomised today's game = shocking
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werent some claiming he had turned
the corner around these parts only a few
weeks ago.
crash BANG.
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He is no mr fix it guys he would make a good third forward
We lack a true chf and I believe jack was very disappointing today
Looks like he needs to have another eight operations in the off season
It's nots Luke fault we lost today they monstered us up back
We need to recruit all blokes above 190 cm no shorter
If we had a chf today jack and Luke would have looked ok
We only lost by 22 at half time I got the rosary beads out it was looking ominous
Considering we had so little doing so much we did ok
Guys to go that played today are
Nahas
Newman
Jackson
White
Ohanlon
Post
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Lol writing off O'Hanlon. :wallywink
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I don't know why he gets a game beyond me
Give him five years everybody seems to hang around for that long as a minimum
Just Ask Hislop Connors Newman Edwards jacko post etc etc
I looked at freo today and Lyon has put mongrel into them even that essendon wanker in macpee
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I don't know why he gets a game beyond me
Give him five years everybody seems to hang around for that long as a minimum
Just Ask Hislop Connors Newman Edwards jacko post etc etc
I looked at freo today and Lyon has put mongrel into them even that essendon wanker in macpee
lol....How Cotchin made it past 2 years on the list is beyond me :banghead :banghead O'Hanlin 6 games, 4 of those as a sub.....Delist tigercub has seen enough LMFAO :lol :lol
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Relax man
I haven't seen him do anything for Coburg but he gets a game in the ones
Let's develop him for five years
We e got time I've waited for a lifetime to get chimp so I'm no hurry
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A kid in his first season that has played a handful of games needs to go yet the club has persevered with McGuane White Jackson for 6 years plus.
Kids like O'Hanlon, Elton Astbury Griffiths need to get some extra consistency and add longevity to their senior footy.
Dimma will lose me if McGuane and White stay on the list given Connors has been sacked and the two retirees announced earlier in the week.
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Relax man
I haven't seen him do anything for Coburg but he gets a game in the ones
Let's develop him for five years
We e got time I've waited for a lifetime to get chimp so I'm no hurry
Ever thought that's because there's no one left in the twos to upgrade?
The kid has been thrown in at the deep end, the games that he has been given will only help his development! Name me another pick 94 that has dominated or even got games in there firsts season?
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Noone yet so hang in there bro
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Noone yet so hang in there bro
I'm hangin...your the one calling for his head :lol
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Seen his true colours today against a good team,past 2 weeks have against poor sides.Not up to it.
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fool
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Isn't it rich?
Are we a pair?
Me here at last on the ground,
You in mid-air.
Send in the clowns.
Isn't it bliss?
Don't you approve?
One who keeps tearing around,
One who can't move.
Where are the clowns?
Send in the clowns.
Just when I'd stopped opening doors,
Finally knowing the one that I wanted was yours,
Making my entrance again with my usual flair,
Sure of my lines,
No one is there.
Don't you love farce?
My fault I fear.
I thought that you'd want what I want.
Sorry, my dear.
But where are the clowns?
Quick, send in the clowns.
Don't bother, they're here.
Isn't it rich?
Isn't it queer,
Losing my timing this late
In my career?
And where are the clowns?
There ought to be clowns.
Well, maybe next year.
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shocking footballer. has to go.
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Relax man
I haven't seen him do anything for Coburg but he gets a game in the ones
Help if you went to the games... :sleep
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and played for him
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be nice please and stick to the subject
you still havent come up with a serviceable pick 94 yet
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Does anyone else hear "Benny Hill" music any time Mcguane touches the ball.
Luke was at his comical best yesterday.
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be nice please and stick to the subject
you still havent come up with a serviceable pick 94 yet
Dean cox, Nathan Foley, Nick Maxwell, Tom Rockcliff, Leigh Adams, Matt Suckling, Paul Duffield, Heath Hocking, Aaron Davey, Andrew Carrazzo.........all picks 94 and above and there just off he top of my head! Would you like me to fully research it for you?
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nice homework there is hope for your son
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be nice please and stick to the subject
you still havent come up with a serviceable pick 94 yet
Dean cox, Nathan Foley, Nick Maxwell, Tom Rockcliff, Leigh Adams, Matt Suckling, Paul Duffield, Heath Hocking, Aaron Davey, Andrew Carrazzo.........all picks 94 and above and there just off he top of my head! Would you like me to fully research it for you?
you name the successes, now name the over 1000 failures with rookie picks. i reckon most successful rookie picks would be mature picks as well.
i will say again late nd and rookie picks are a numbers game where you turn over heaps ( about 6 ) in the hope of finding one decent player who can do a job for you.
just my opinion but with these picks we would be better off with a mixture of kids and mature recruits about 50/50. someone like moloney would be a guarantee of decent service for two or three yrs. most rookies dont ever get to play a senior game.
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be nice please and stick to the subject
you still havent come up with a serviceable pick 94 yet
Dean cox, Nathan Foley, Nick Maxwell, Tom Rockcliff, Leigh Adams, Matt Suckling, Paul Duffield, Heath Hocking, Aaron Davey, Andrew Carrazzo.........all picks 94 and above and there just off he top of my head! Would you like me to fully research it for you?
you name the successes, now name the over 1000 failures with rookie picks. i reckon most successful rookie picks would be mature picks as well.
i will say again late nd and rookie picks are a numbers game where you turn over heaps ( about 6 ) in the hope of finding one decent player who can do a job for you.
just my opinion but with these picks we would be better off with a mixture of kids and mature recruits about 50/50. someone like moloney would be a guarantee of decent service for two or three yrs. most rookies dont ever get to play a senior game.
What's that got to do with O'Hanlon and in turn why is O'Hanlon being discussed in the McGuane thread?
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Do we have the YouTube of mcgaune missed goal?
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Do we have the YouTube of mcgaune missed goal?
The one where he saw Edwards and dropped the ball. Edwards infected him. Its contagious. Tigers have the plague.
How stupid is the coach playing him in the Ruck again. If you were going to rotate anyone in the ruck, it had to be Post. Hardwick has to go. He is reminding me of Giesh. Thats how bad he is.
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Does anyone else hear "Benny Hill" music any time Mcguane touches the ball.
Luke was at his comical best yesterday.
Great minds think alike mat. The first thing I thought when seeing the video clip was adding "Benny Hill" music to it plus Homer's "Doh!" at the end when Luke puts his hands to his head.
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Do we have the YouTube of mcgaune missed goal?
Here you go Bents:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=POvvzqYZCD0
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Heath shocking pick 94 explains it all
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Do we have the YouTube of mcgaune missed goal?
The one where he saw Edwards and dropped the ball. Edwards infected him. Its contagious. Tigers have the plague.
How stupid is the coach playing him in the Ruck again. If you were going to rotate anyone in the ruck, it had to be Post. Hardwick has to go. He is reminding me of Giesh. Thats how bad he is.
But with Griff down who goes back? I agree Post would've been best choice outside of the circumstances but with only 2 tall backs, if one went into the ruck that'll leave one. Unless you put McGuane in the backline as post rucks....
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But with Griff down who goes back? I agree Post would've been best choice outside of the circumstances but with only 2 tall backs, if one went into the ruck that'll leave one. Unless you put McGuane in the backline as post rucks....
I agree but if you are winning the clearances, there isn't as much pressure on the back-line and the delivery into the forward line is so much more fluid. Hardwick denied our midfield a contest in the Ruck. Then he cried about the dominance of Sandilands after the game. You can't cry about a situation that you made happen.
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Do we have the YouTube of mcgaune missed goal?
The one where he saw Edwards and dropped the ball. Edwards infected him. Its contagious. Tigers have the plague.
How stupid is the coach playing him in the Ruck again. If you were going to rotate anyone in the ruck, it had to be Post. Hardwick has to go. He is reminding me of Giesh. Thats how bad he is.
But with Griff down who goes back? I agree Post would've been best choice outside of the circumstances but with only 2 tall backs, if one went into the ruck that'll leave one. Unless you put McGuane in the backline as post rucks....
Maybe Astbury will get a run?
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l seen some funny stuff on Saturday but l was not laughing. Every other team supporter will be forever reminding us of this lad. Clearly he is now worthless & no other team will ever want to see this lad. Send him to Leongatha. :rollin
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l seen some funny stuff on Saturday but l was not laughing. Every other team supporter will be forever reminding us of this lad. Clearly he is now worthless & no other team will ever want to see this lad. Send him to Leongatha. :rollin
Was worthless prior to this game anyway ;)
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I laughed when mcguanne dropped that ball. Near laid an egg, I think
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be nice please and stick to the subject
you still havent come up with a serviceable pick 94 yet
Dean cox, Nathan Foley, Nick Maxwell, Tom Rockcliff, Leigh Adams, Matt Suckling, Paul Duffield, Heath Hocking, Aaron Davey, Andrew Carrazzo.........all picks 94 and above and there just off he top of my head! Would you like me to fully research it for you?
you name the successes, now name the over 1000 failures with rookie picks. i reckon most successful rookie picks would be mature picks as well.
i will say again late nd and rookie picks are a numbers game where you turn over heaps ( about 6 ) in the hope of finding one decent player who can do a job for you.
just my opinion but with these picks we would be better off with a mixture of kids and mature recruits about 50/50. someone like moloney would be a guarantee of decent service for two or three yrs. most rookies dont ever get to play a senior game.
What's that got to do with O'Hanlon and in turn why is O'Hanlon being discussed in the McGuane thread?
why is ohanlon being discussed here you will have to ask others i didnt bring him up.
what has the above got to do with ohanlon. well someone asked how many pick 94s have made it i was just making the point that the vast majority of picks taken at 94 or later do not make it.
if we use previous history as a guide there should not be high expectations on the kid.
as for mcguane did i mention hes a hack? oh yeah i did.
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Busted my third tv remote control this year because of this boofhead
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2 more games before adios amigo!
Thanks for your services but you were well over-payed for what you produced.
A bit like a corporate manager at the big 4 banks
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Lukey tries hard and contests (nice contested mark in the first quarter) but you can't have forwards on the park that continually miss from the golasquare running into open goals :P. Even his two set shots from 20m out just barely scraped in. Nothing but a fill-in option this year and one that can be cut or traded as he's not going to be part of a future premiership.
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Lukey tries hard and contests (nice contested mark in the first quarter) but you can't have forwards on the park that continually miss from the golasquare running into open goals :P. Even his two set shots from 20m out just barely scraped in. Nothing but a fill-in option this year and one that can be cut or traded as he's not going to be part of a future premiership.
I agree MT.
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Also, why does he continually lead to the same area as Jack :huh ::)
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I'm hoping some opposition recruiters are as deluded as posters on here, thinking this guy is an answer going forward.
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Lukey tries hard and contests (nice contested mark in the first quarter) but you can't have forwards on the park that continually miss from the golasquare running into open goals :P. Even his two set shots from 20m out just barely scraped in. Nothing but a fill-in option this year and one that can be cut or traded as he's not going to be part of a future premiership.
Spot on. Must be traded now.
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fumbles putting his shoes on
delist
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fumbles putting his shoes on
delist
I heard an interview on SEN on Friday with Lukey and he spoke as though he will be playing with us again and continuing to play up forward.
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Also, why does he continually lead to the same area as Jack :huh ::)
Probably because that's where the inside 50 is directed all the time. :whistle
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Lukey tries hard and contests (nice contested mark in the first quarter) but you can't have forwards on the park that continually miss from the golasquare running into open goals :P.
Can't have Shane Edwards either by that logic. He has missed a lot more from closer in this year.
McGuane is playing second tall now and doing a good job. Kicked two goals and took 6 marks. Probably all contested. More than any of our other forward options ever take. Astbury did stuff all. Next year, he will be the third tall. Will stretch opposition clubs in defence. Lets not forget that he almost did his knee mid season. He hasn't played anywhere near 100% fitness last two years because of injuries.
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Mcguanes 15 goals look ok on paper ....but his skill level makes my eyes bleed.
Surly we can flog him off to the Gold Coast for pick 79.
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unplugged is McGuane. :rollin
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I would imagine McGuane will be fighting with Griffiths, Astbury and even Post for the third tall forward position next year....Could be traded but unlikely
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Also, why does he continually lead to the same area as Jack :huh ::)
He's not very smart WP.
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If his skills were just a little bit better, I reckon he'd be worth persevering with as that 3rd tall. He's agile, mobile, can take a grab and puts good pressure on defenders, but geez he's not the smartest footballer going around and those misses from point blank range..... Shoot me for saying it, but his last 10 weeks have swayed me to the point of saying he's 50/50 to hang onto. I'd keep him ahead of Post and probably Astbury. :gobdrop Posts and Astbury have the turning circle of a mack truck, they will never be any good as 3rd talls because smaller opponents will run off them all day - and we have players that will always be ahead of them as key talls (Jack, Vickery, griffiths, rance, Chaplin, Grimes).
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He's the best 2nd forward we have had in years.
Fair is fair,
I wanted to kill him as a defender but as a forward i know he;s ok because
i don't feel like vomiting when he attacks the ball or kicks for goal.
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He's the best 2nd forward we have had in years.
Fair is fair,
I wanted to kill him as a defender but as a forward i know he;s ok because
i don't feel like vomiting when he attacks the ball or kicks for goal.
You mean, as opposed to him dropping the ball running out of the backline (costing us a goal) or turning the ball over rebounding 50 (costing us a goal) he is now making mistakes in our F50 arc and dropping the ball running into an open goal (costing us a goal)? I think he is found out less by his deficiencies up forward as we get over him kicking points more than gifting the opposition a goal.
In any matter, he wouldn't be in our best 22 if everyone was fit, and I feel the depth the club wants to build would see him a fair way back in the order.
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better than vickery the sissy
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Homeward bound?
Mmm could be
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mguane is a goose,, eff him off asap
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Can lay a good tackle and take a good grab but his kicking for goal is not good at all. Much better in forwardline than in defence. Career hanging by a thread
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Trade or depth on this year's efforts. Not in our top 22 IMO.
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Also, why does he continually lead to the same area as Jack :huh ::)
Probably because that's where the inside 50 is directed all the time. :whistle
One of them is supposed to go towards the contest the other is supposed to lead the other way as a decoy to take defenders away from the contest ;D
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unplugged is McGuane. :rollin
JVT hits like Edwards. Buzz buzzz...
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Has a decent pair of hands doesn't go missing for long periods but his foot skills are deplorable and he needs to be traded i hope Griffiths takes Mc Spud's spot stuff trying to get him to 100 games
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he is just too clumsey and and stuffs up the most basic things too often, rance is the same
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In another coup for the Richmond Football Club, they have beaten off the free agency threat and retained Luke Mcguane. :highclap
RICHMOND utility Luke McGuane is believed to be close to an agreement to re-sign with the Tigers, having improved his stocks at Punt Road with a strong finish to the season.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/147739/default.aspx
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Well done Luke, at least another year up forward until we find a replacement...
Good thinking Tiges!!
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I suppose if he is earning 200k less next year then I could live with it. Being in our top 10 most paid players is disgusting. Craig Cameron, hang your head in shame.
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Well done McGuane..let's hope he can pile on a few more goals next year.
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probably kick more than the Dutch monger next year
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He must love playing for Coburg ;D
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oh deary me.
vickery yr 5. griffiths yr 4, astbury yr 4 elton yr 2 and we have to hang onto this outright hack. get rid of him and there will be no temptation to play him.
so we sign luke and we sign white it leaves who that we can cut from the list proper if we wish to cut more than the 5 gone already.
the more things change down at that club the more they stay the same it seems.
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I suppose if he is earning 200k less next year then I could live with it. Being in our top 10 most paid players is disgusting. Craig Cameron, hang your head in shame.
With CC's track record, i wont believe hes taken a significant paycut until i see proof. Another 2 years?
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not really claw. Like this year, he will most likely be used only as a last resort.
hopefully its only one year though.
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I suppose if he is earning 200k less next year then I could live with it. Being in our top 10 most paid players is disgusting. Craig Cameron, hang your head in shame.
With CC's track record, i wont believe hes taken a significant paycut until i see proof. Another 2 years?
So you saw proof that he was actually on the amount that was reported in here a few years back by the one and only Mr Reliable - Jackstar? Or are you just subscribing to the urban myth that surrounds it?
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Or than cameron overides the list management committee to make these decisions on his own.......
:outtahere
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This is stuffing disgusting and pathetic... How stupid can the Tigers be keeping this list clogger and joke still at the club..... This is just utter rubbish
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I suppose if he is earning 200k less next year then I could live with it. Being in our top 10 most paid players is disgusting. Craig Cameron, hang your head in shame.
With CC's track record, i wont believe hes taken a significant paycut until i see proof. Another 2 years?
So you saw proof that he was actually on the amount that was reported in here a few years back by the one and only Mr Reliable - Jackstar? Or are you just subscribing to the urban myth that surrounds it?
I know for a fact it is true. He also has to be in the top 10 paid players at the club to be a restricted free agent. So it's already obvious that he is on very good $$$
Al, does Damien Hardwick chase after each players manager and negotiate contracts? Is that in his (or any of the coaches) job description? ;D Cameron signed him up to that much $, not the Wallet or anyone else.
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the decision of how much would be decided by the committee, cameron would then do the negotiations.
thats why stahl is on the committee, to ensure they stay within budgets/salary cap.
I know people love a scapegoat, but the list management decisions(good and bad), are made by a group of people, not one. Cameron doesn't rule the club like a modern day Grahame Richmond
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William thursfield.kicking himself
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What is his job? Is he a boss of some sort or is he just some bloke having his say? He's got more power than what you blokes defending him suggest. What was he originally brought to the club to do? He was list manager. Obviously he's making important decisions otherwise you don't need anyone in charge.
Player managers have been bending over this dud for too long.
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Cameron is the general manager of football so his role is to manage all the various arms of the footy dept - coaches, recruiting, list management, rehab, strength and conditioning.
Most managers in organisations largely manage people.
If you think he solely makes these decisions;
1 what do you think the purpose of list management committee is?
2 do you really believe that any resignings would be made if the coach or recruiting tsaff did not want that person on the list?
Its not about defending Cameron personally, just believing that credit and critisism should be directed where its due.
He is also in charge of rehab strength and conditioning, yet no one would suggest he makes the decisions on what program each player undergoes?
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Cameron is the general manager of football so his role is to manage all the various arms of the footy dept - coaches, recruiting, list management, rehab, strength and conditioning.
Most managers in organisations largely manage people.
If you think he solely makes these decisions;
1 what do you think the purpose of list management committee is?
2 do you really believe that any resignings would be made if the coach or recruiting tsaff did not want that person on the list?
Its not about defending Cameron personally, just believing that credit and critisism should be directed where its due.
Never said he makes decisions by himself. But obviously he's got no idea if he signs off on some of the decisions the club makes. Either he plays a big role in those decisions or he just goes along with what the members of the brains trust think. Shitman as oxx would say
He is also in charge of rehab strength and conditioning, yet no one would suggest he makes the decisions on what program each player undergoes?
Honestly, WGAF?
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I suppose if he is earning 200k less next year then I could live with it. Being in our top 10 most paid players is disgusting. Craig Cameron, hang your head in shame.
With CC's track record, i wont believe hes taken a significant paycut until i see proof. Another 2 years?
So you saw proof that he was actually on the amount that was reported in here a few years back by the one and only Mr Reliable - Jackstar? Or are you just subscribing to the urban myth that surrounds it?
Do you have proof to suggest he isn't well paid? It's all well and good to shoot down posters for their negative views, but do u have proof to dispel these "urban myths"? Whats good for the goose....
I have heard from other sources that he has been very well paid, whether that was 450k a season like jackstar said I don't know, but I do know he was signed on the back of his best football to date, was young and we were struggling to get to min cap at the time, do the math...
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So you saw proof that he was actually on the amount that was reported in here a few years back by the one and only Mr Reliable - Jackstar? Or are you just subscribing to the urban myth that surrounds it?
Do you have proof to suggest he isn't well paid? It's all well and good to shoot down posters for their negative views, but do u have proof to dispel these "urban myths"? Whats good for the goose....
I have heard from other sources that he has been very well paid, whether that was 450k a season like jackstar said I don't know, but I do know he was signed on the back of his best football to date, was young and we were struggling to get to min cap at the time, do the math...
No I don't have proof and that is exactly my point. Unless the guy himself told me or it was reported in the free press as such then I won't believe it, pure and simple. I can have an educated guess based on anything I like to accept as a likely truth but I can't say it is true or not without an actual fact. In this case, that's something you or I don't have and without an actual fact I'm not going criticise Cameron for any decision based solely on my guess the urban myth is true. I could make a statement like "IF it was true then Cameron was a party to a bad list decision" but that's a significant difference from assuming it and blaming Cameron regardless. I wasn't having a go at you for having a negative view, it was for making an unsubstantiated statement about Cameron's decision by a.) assuming it was Cameron's decision alone, and b.) McGuane was signed for ~$450k per year. In both cases I would guess that you don't know the truth or facts of either so the whack at Cameron in my mind is unfair. You say that with Cameron's track record you won't believe McGuane has taken a significant paycut without the proof, yet you seem to need no proof to make allegations about Cameron. What's good for the goose.......
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So you saw proof that he was actually on the amount that was reported in here a few years back by the one and only Mr Reliable - Jackstar? Or are you just subscribing to the urban myth that surrounds it?
Do you have proof to suggest he isn't well paid? It's all well and good to shoot down posters for their negative views, but do u have proof to dispel these "urban myths"? Whats good for the goose....
I have heard from other sources that he has been very well paid, whether that was 450k a season like jackstar said I don't know, but I do know he was signed on the back of his best football to date, was young and we were struggling to get to min cap at the time, do the math...
No I don't have proof and that is exactly my point. Unless the guy himself told me or it was reported in the free press as such then I won't believe it, pure and simple. I can have an educated guess based on anything I like to accept as a likely truth but I can't say it is true or not without an actual fact. In this case, that's something you or I don't have and without an actual fact I'm not going criticise Cameron for any decision based solely on my guess the urban myth is true. I could make a statement like "IF it was true then Cameron was a party to a bad list decision" but that's a significant difference from assuming it and blaming Cameron regardless. I wasn't having a go at you for having a negative view, it was for making an unsubstantiated statement about Cameron's decision by a.) assuming it was Cameron's decision alone, and b.) McGuane was signed for ~$450k per year. In both cases I would guess that you don't know the truth or facts of either so the whack at Cameron in my mind is unfair. You say that with Cameron's track record you won't believe McGuane has taken a significant paycut without the proof, yet you seem to need no proof to make allegations about Cameron. What's good for the goose.......
You can dance around the semantics of it if you wish smokey, but common sense suggests he would have been on a fair whack this contract and likely closer to the mark than way off for the reasons I mentioned earlier. If you dismiss this as incorrect that's you prerogative and no skin off my nose....
This is my opinion - I'm not claiming it as fact just an educated guess and I'm well within my rights to voice it on a footy forum, you don't agree? That's perfectly fine with me
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well a few of us on this forum do know it (mcgs contract) to be fact.
McG isn't much good and neither is Cameron. Hopefully we can all agree on that
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allright, just this once. But lets not turn it into a circle jerk. If i want that I will sneak into the St Kilda change rooms
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You are just the legend arent you :lol
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;D
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So you saw proof that he was actually on the amount that was reported in here a few years back by the one and only Mr Reliable - Jackstar? Or are you just subscribing to the urban myth that surrounds it?
Do you have proof to suggest he isn't well paid? It's all well and good to shoot down posters for their negative views, but do u have proof to dispel these "urban myths"? Whats good for the goose....
I have heard from other sources that he has been very well paid, whether that was 450k a season like jackstar said I don't know, but I do know he was signed on the back of his best football to date, was young and we were struggling to get to min cap at the time, do the math...
No I don't have proof and that is exactly my point. Unless the guy himself told me or it was reported in the free press as such then I won't believe it, pure and simple. I can have an educated guess based on anything I like to accept as a likely truth but I can't say it is true or not without an actual fact. In this case, that's something you or I don't have and without an actual fact I'm not going criticise Cameron for any decision based solely on my guess the urban myth is true. I could make a statement like "IF it was true then Cameron was a party to a bad list decision" but that's a significant difference from assuming it and blaming Cameron regardless. I wasn't having a go at you for having a negative view, it was for making an unsubstantiated statement about Cameron's decision by a.) assuming it was Cameron's decision alone, and b.) McGuane was signed for ~$450k per year. In both cases I would guess that you don't know the truth or facts of either so the whack at Cameron in my mind is unfair. You say that with Cameron's track record you won't believe McGuane has taken a significant paycut without the proof, yet you seem to need no proof to make allegations about Cameron. What's good for the goose.......
You can dance around the semantics of it if you wish smokey, but common sense suggests he would have been on a fair whack this contract and likely closer to the mark than way off for the reasons I mentioned earlier. If you dismiss this as incorrect that's you prerogative and no skin off my nose....
This is my opinion - I'm not claiming it as fact just an educated guess and I'm well within my rights to voice it on a footy forum, you don't agree? That's perfectly fine with me
All good TM, it's what we all come here for. :thumbsup
FWIW I agree that IF McGuane was on $450k-ish then those responsible should hang their collective heads in shame - he was never worth that and never will be. I would also never have signed him up for 4 years at the time, regardless of the amount of his contract. If however it turned out that he was signed at the time for around $300-$350 per year then I would accept that based on his age/size/potential at the time. The fact that we can view his failure to fully develop or produce the goods in hindsight makes it easy to judge but at the time a figure around that would have been reasonable in my opinion and I reckon that a figure of $350 might still (just) place him in the top 25% of our current list.
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In another coup for the Richmond Football Club, they have beaten off the free agency threat and retained Luke Mcguane. :highclap
RICHMOND utility Luke McGuane is believed to be close to an agreement to re-sign with the Tigers, having improved his stocks at Punt Road with a strong finish to the season.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/147739/default.aspx
Get it done, Tiges :clapping
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well a few of us on this forum do know it (mcgs contract) to be fact.
McG isn't much good and neither is Cameron. Hopefully we can all agree on that
I'll agree on the McG part but still reserve my judgment on Cameron - I think his job is thankless and an easy target for unfair criticism, founded or not, and I don't think there have been enough (any) proofs yet that say to me is bad or been a failure at his job. Drafting/trading/list management is far from an exact science and outcomes are open to too many opinionated viewpoints that we can really only measure the success or failure of an incumbent in retrospect and that's pretty much when I'll do it re: Cameron.
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I wish I could tell you blokes the things Cameron has done. However, I have been sworn to secrecy. :shh ;D
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I wish I could tell you blokes the things Cameron has done. However, I have been sworn to secrecy. :shh ;D
If the French can manage to take and publish topless shots of Kate Middleton then surely you should be open to a little scuttlebutting?
:whistle
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What is said at Club 80 will stay at Club 80 :shh
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Eff me I was hoping to see the last of at least one or two of McGawn, White or Jackson.
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I don't think there have been enough (any) proofs yet that say to me is bad or been a failure at his job.
After saying we would have "two more development coaches" in 2012, he released newett and Clarke and hired Mellor.
Is that a failure on his key role?
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If McGuane is able to produce every game what he did the back part of this season, I don't mind him around as a depth player.
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So you saw proof that he was actually on the amount that was reported in here a few years back by the one and only Mr Reliable - Jackstar? Or are you just subscribing to the urban myth that surrounds it?
Do you have proof to suggest he isn't well paid? It's all well and good to shoot down posters for their negative views, but do u have proof to dispel these "urban myths"? Whats good for the goose....
I have heard from other sources that he has been very well paid, whether that was 450k a season like jackstar said I don't know, but I do know he was signed on the back of his best football to date, was young and we were struggling to get to min cap at the time, do the math...
No I don't have proof and that is exactly my point. Unless the guy himself told me or it was reported in the free press as such then I won't believe it, pure and simple. I can have an educated guess based on anything I like to accept as a likely truth but I can't say it is true or not without an actual fact. In this case, that's something you or I don't have and without an actual fact I'm not going criticise Cameron for any decision based solely on my guess the urban myth is true. I could make a statement like "IF it was true then Cameron was a party to a bad list decision" but that's a significant difference from assuming it and blaming Cameron regardless. I wasn't having a go at you for having a negative view, it was for making an unsubstantiated statement about Cameron's decision by a.) assuming it was Cameron's decision alone, and b.) McGuane was signed for ~$450k per year. In both cases I would guess that you don't know the truth or facts of either so the whack at Cameron in my mind is unfair. You say that with Cameron's track record you won't believe McGuane has taken a significant paycut without the proof, yet you seem to need no proof to make allegations about Cameron. What's good for the goose.......
You can dance around the semantics of it if you wish smokey, but common sense suggests he would have been on a fair whack this contract and likely closer to the mark than way off for the reasons I mentioned earlier. If you dismiss this as incorrect that's you prerogative and no skin off my nose....
This is my opinion - I'm not claiming it as fact just an educated guess and I'm well within my rights to voice it on a footy forum, you don't agree? That's perfectly fine with me
All good TM, it's what we all come here for. :thumbsup
FWIW I agree that IF McGuane was on $450k-ish then those responsible should hang their collective heads in shame - he was never worth that and never will be. I would also never have signed him up for 4 years at the time, regardless of the amount of his contract. If however it turned out that he was signed at the time for around $300-$350 per year then I would accept that based on his age/size/potential at the time. The fact that we can view his failure to fully develop or produce the goods in hindsight makes it easy to judge but at the time a figure around that would have been reasonable in my opinion and I reckon that a figure of $350 might still (just) place him in the top 25% of our current list.
Agreed smokey, can't argue with that :thumbsup
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I don't think there have been enough (any) proofs yet that say to me is bad or been a failure at his job.
After saying we would have "two more development coaches" in 2012, he released newett and Clarke and hired Mellor.
Is that a failure on his key role?
Could be RT, depends on what caused it I would think. If he was unable to secure the standard of coach that he was seeking and decided not to grab 'just anyone' then I would think it's a success as far as the good of the club and it's culture goes but if he was just gobbing off for the sake of some spin-doctoring publicity then I would say it's a fail. Again, without knowing the facts I will reserve my judgment.
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Knowing the facts that he made the statement and didn't deliver I have made my judgement.
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Knowing the facts that he made the statement and didn't deliver I have made my judgement.
As far as I can work out, the additions to the football department in the coaching/development area for this season were Ross Smith, Mark Williams and Greg Mellor?
So are you saying that you will judge Benny Gale as a failure if we don't achieve 3-0-75? A plan is only ever something to use as a guiding tool on the path to a hopeful future outcome and when circumstances change (as they almost always will) then the smart operators are the ones who are able to adjust and tinker to keep working towards that outcome. I would rather the club be responsible enough to make it's decisions based on the facts before it at the time rather than blindly sticking to a verbal pre-committment that could have any number of circumstances change after the event. If they couldn't get the personnel they were after at the time then saving the money and working towards extra coaches/developmental staff (the ones that tick all your particular boxes) in the future is a far smarter outcome than taking any Johnny-come-lately just for the sake of appeasing the fans. Just my opinion and why I'm not judging Cameron on it right now, there's plenty of time in history to do that.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-iRle4Yz-tQ
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:lol
But sadly, there could have been more added to that clip. :help
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-iRle4Yz-tQ
:banghead
:ROTFL
I don't know whether to laugh or cry.
:facepalm
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Eff me I was hoping to see the last of at least one or two of McGawn, White or Jackson.
Jackson had his contract renewed, he is not going anywhere!
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I don't think there have been enough (any) proofs yet that say to me is bad or been a failure at his job.
After saying we would have "two more development coaches" in 2012, he released newett and Clarke and hired Mellor.
Is that a failure on his key role?
Slight correction - He didn't release Clarke. Clarke he left of his own accord to move the States with his American born wife
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So you saw proof that he was actually on the amount that was reported in here a few years back by the one and only Mr Reliable - Jackstar? Or are you just subscribing to the urban myth that surrounds it?
Do you have proof to suggest he isn't well paid? It's all well and good to shoot down posters for their negative views, but do u have proof to dispel these "urban myths"? Whats good for the goose....
I have heard from other sources that he has been very well paid, whether that was 450k a season like jackstar said I don't know, but I do know he was signed on the back of his best football to date, was young and we were struggling to get to min cap at the time, do the math...
No I don't have proof and that is exactly my point. Unless the guy himself told me or it was reported in the free press as such then I won't believe it, pure and simple. I can have an educated guess based on anything I like to accept as a likely truth but I can't say it is true or not without an actual fact. In this case, that's something you or I don't have and without an actual fact I'm not going criticise Cameron for any decision based solely on my guess the urban myth is true. I could make a statement like "IF it was true then Cameron was a party to a bad list decision" but that's a significant difference from assuming it and blaming Cameron regardless. I wasn't having a go at you for having a negative view, it was for making an unsubstantiated statement about Cameron's decision by a.) assuming it was Cameron's decision alone, and b.) McGuane was signed for ~$450k per year. In both cases I would guess that you don't know the truth or facts of either so the whack at Cameron in my mind is unfair. You say that with Cameron's track record you won't believe McGuane has taken a significant paycut without the proof, yet you seem to need no proof to make allegations about Cameron. What's good for the goose.......
You can dance around the semantics of it if you wish smokey, but common sense suggests he would have been on a fair whack this contract and likely closer to the mark than way off for the reasons I mentioned earlier. If you dismiss this as incorrect that's you prerogative and no skin off my nose....
This is my opinion - I'm not claiming it as fact just an educated guess and I'm well within my rights to voice it on a footy forum, you don't agree? That's perfectly fine with me
All good TM, it's what we all come here for. :thumbsup
FWIW I agree that IF McGuane was on $450k-ish then those responsible should hang their collective heads in shame - he was never worth that and never will be. I would also never have signed him up for 4 years at the time, regardless of the amount of his contract. If however it turned out that he was signed at the time for around $300-$350 per year then I would accept that based on his age/size/potential at the time. The fact that we can view his failure to fully develop or produce the goods in hindsight makes it easy to judge but at the time a figure around that would have been reasonable in my opinion and I reckon that a figure of $350 might still (just) place him in the top 25% of our current list.
imo i dont think mcguane has ever done anything to warrant more than two yrs. he certainly would not warrant more than 300k ever. would only offer him a 1yr performance based contract this time around if we were to keep him.
personally i believe he should be delisted and should have been 4 yrs ago.
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personally i believe he should be delisted and should have been 4 yrs ago.
Nice hindsight judgment Claw. There was nothing in his package 4 years ago to suggest he should not have been tried (re-signed) for a couple of years at a commensurate package. The error (that hindsight has again allowed us to know) was in the length of time and (rumoured) amount. 2 years @ $300-ish was absolutely worth doing.
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personally i believe he should be delisted and should have been 4 yrs ago.
Nice hindsight judgment Claw. There was nothing in his package 4 years ago to suggest he should not have been tried (re-signed) for a couple of years at a commensurate package. The error (that hindsight has again allowed us to know) was in the length of time and (rumoured) amount. 2 years @ $300-ish was absolutely worth doing.
no hindsight smokey. have been calling for his head that long. i call for his head based purely on his football ability and overall performances.
every player is judged by the same criteria and theres a fair few on the list whos head ive called for for yrs now.
i have never seen any circumstance where mcguane has been worth more than 300k a yr and ive never seen enough from him to warrant more than a two yr contract and that was early days.
8 yrs in and for me not much has changed with this dud. the weaknesses in his game that has held him back are all still there holding him back.
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Knowing the facts that he made the statement and didn't deliver I have made my judgement.
As far as I can work out, the additions to the football department in the coaching/development area for this season were Ross Smith, Mark Williams and Greg Mellor?
So are you saying that you will judge Benny Gale as a failure if we don't achieve 3-0-75? A plan is only ever something to use as a guiding tool on the path to a hopeful future outcome and when circumstances change (as they almost always will) then the smart operators are the ones who are able to adjust and tinker to keep working towards that outcome. I would rather the club be responsible enough to make it's decisions based on the facts before it at the time rather than blindly sticking to a verbal pre-committment that could have any number of circumstances change after the event. If they couldn't get the personnel they were after at the time then saving the money and working towards extra coaches/developmental staff (the ones that tick all your particular boxes) in the future is a far smarter outcome than taking any Johnny-come-lately just for the sake of appeasing the fans. Just my opinion and why I'm not judging Cameron on it right now, there's plenty of time in history to do that.
And there you go changing the facts again.
The only DEVELOPMENT coach is Mellor - FACT
I have not said ANYTHING about Gale's PLAN, only about Cameron's STATEMENT - FACT
Why would he announce coaching additions before filling the positions? Care to name any similar situation?
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Knowing the facts that he made the statement and didn't deliver I have made my judgement.
As far as I can work out, the additions to the football department in the coaching/development area for this season were Ross Smith, Mark Williams and Greg Mellor?
So are you saying that you will judge Benny Gale as a failure if we don't achieve 3-0-75? A plan is only ever something to use as a guiding tool on the path to a hopeful future outcome and when circumstances change (as they almost always will) then the smart operators are the ones who are able to adjust and tinker to keep working towards that outcome. I would rather the club be responsible enough to make it's decisions based on the facts before it at the time rather than blindly sticking to a verbal pre-committment that could have any number of circumstances change after the event. If they couldn't get the personnel they were after at the time then saving the money and working towards extra coaches/developmental staff (the ones that tick all your particular boxes) in the future is a far smarter outcome than taking any Johnny-come-lately just for the sake of appeasing the fans. Just my opinion and why I'm not judging Cameron on it right now, there's plenty of time in history to do that.
And there you go changing the facts again.
The only DEVELOPMENT coach is Mellor - FACT
I have not said ANYTHING about Gale's PLAN, only about Cameron's STATEMENT - FACT
Why would he announce coaching additions before filling the positions? Care to name any similar situation?
What facts did I change?
And while I'm on that - when did I last change facts?
But back to the topic, imho every coach is a "development coach" - what other type is there?
And as I read it, Cameron's statement was only a planned intent or action, not an iron-clad promise or statement of fact after the event. What one of thousands of examples in football and life would you like me to present re: people or organizations making a statement and then changing their mind or action due to circumstantial change?
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McGuane made the Courier Mail’s 2012 Queensland Team of the Year ...
http://www.lions.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/5085/newsid/147386/default.aspx
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Luke will be playing at the tigers next year as he has agreed to the contract that has been offered source very close family friend. lets just hope he can improve his 5 meter kicks on goals from the goal square in honesty who else would have him besides the tigers
GO U TIGERS
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Luke will be playing at the tigers next year as he has agreed to the contract that has been offered source very close family friend. lets just hope he can improve his 5 meter kicks on goals from the goal square in honesty who else would have him besides the tigers
GO U TIGERS
Yes, he can work on it at Coburg because I don't see Luke playing for Richmond next year unless we have injuries to key players like we did this year.
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I find it amazing that McGuane made the Courier Mail’s 2012 Queensland Team of the Year
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I find it amazing that McGuane made the Courier Mail’s 2012 Queensland Team of the Year
He makes it every year. There's only 22 Queenslanders in the league ;D
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Luke will be playing at the tigers next year as he has agreed to the contract that has been offered source very close family friend. lets just hope he can improve his 5 meter kicks on goals from the goal square in honesty who else would have him besides the tigers
GO U TIGERS
Yes, he can work on it at Coburg because I don't see Luke playing for Richmond next year unless we have injuries to key players like we did this year.
As long as he is getting a big pay packet I am Ok with that
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Luke been offered new deal today
:thumbsup
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Luke been offered new deal today
:thumbsup
Yessss :clapping
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Get it done, Tiges :clapping™
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Im in a meeting :clapping
Ps met someone in traffic today :clapping
Pps they drink rum n coke :clapping
Ppps :clapping :clapping :clapping
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McGuane considers Tigers' offer
By Paul Daffey
afl.com.au
Fri 21 Sep, 2012
RICHMOND has offered utility Luke McGuane a contract to remain at Punt Rd, quashing speculation the 25-year-old would be traded or delisted.
McGuane's manager, Rob D'Orazio from Ralph Carr Management, said it’s more than likely that McGuane would remain a Tiger.
"There's an offer on the table and we're going through it," D'Orazio said.
McGuane spent his early years at Richmond as a defender but this year made an impression in attack.
After showing strong form with Richmond's VFL affiliate Coburg, he broke back into the Tigers' AFL team in round 15 against Melbourne.
He played every match for the rest of the season. His output included three-goal games against the Brisbane Lions and Western Bulldogs.
He kicked a respectable 15 goals during the final nine games. Those performances shored up his value as a depth player on the Tigers' list.
Richmond selected McGuane at No.36 in the 2004 national draft. He made his debut in 2006 and has since played 93 games and kicked 19 goals.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/148246/default.aspx
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Great work tigers, keep up the media on how good this spud was! Vossy is circling ;D
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McGuane considers Tigers' offer
By Paul Daffey
afl.com.au
Fri 21 Sep, 2012
"There's an offer on the table and we're going through it," D'Orazio said.
He kicked a respectable 15 goals during the final nine games. Those performances shored up his value as a depth player on the Tigers' list.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/148246/default.aspx
^ D'Orazio really means "we can't believe that we've even been offered a year - someone get us a pen as quickly as possible before the club changes it's mind!"
depth player at best - agree with others that if we see him at AFL level more than Coburg we're in trouble...hopefully a ploy for an "undercover trade mission"......
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Mcguane is being shopped.
If no body wants him he will be recontrcacred for depth .
Is in for a big pay it regardless
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I'm assuming that says pay cut
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Big bodied players who can play KPF and KPD don't come around this often.
G U N
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Mcguane is being shopped.
If no body wants him he will be recontrcacred for depth .
Is in for a big pay it regardless
how do you shop a free agent blaisee? If someone wants him why would they trade?
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Mcguane is being shopped.
If no body wants him he will be recontrcacred for depth .
Is in for a big pay it regardless
how do you shop a free agent blaisee? If someone wants him why would they trade?
Although if a club actually wanted him we wouldn't want to, we could match most clubs offers. This way we get rid of him and get a little something back
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that leaves wide open the possibility of having him on your list and paying more than you want, or even worse longer than you want.
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that leaves wide open the possibility of having him on your list and paying more than you want, or even worse longer than you want.
I mean you could contract him for minimal cash on 1 year and have him for depth but shop him around to see if you can find any better cause IMO he wouldn't be a bad depth player. If someone bids for him and you don't want match it, bite the bullet and let him go.
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Mcguane is being shopped.
If no body wants him he will be recontrcacred for depth .
Is in for a big pay it regardless
how do you shop a free agent blaisee? If someone wants him why would they trade?
I'm pretty sure Larry Emdur was quite keen on having him as part of the show case on The Price is Right :shh
"Now Marge, where do you put Luke, before or AFTER the Waterford crystal"
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I'm pretty sure Larry Emdur was quite keen on having him as part of the show case on The Price is Right :shh
"Now Marge, where do you put Luke, before or AFTER the Waterford crystal"
:lol
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Yesssssss that's the ticket :clapping
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If he stays at the club you should all be supportnig him, there was nothing wrong with his games when he was moved forward.
Also a few years ago when he was down back with a solid backline he went very well, played solid games week in week out....
He had a bad year last year out of how many years has he been with us??? One bad year....he had the balls to have a go forward and he remained in the team....kicking goals and providing a contest. Is he a star, no, but he did his job.
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WAT, he is a better kick for goal than say Miller however Mcguane still makes my eyes bleed.
You only have to look at the recent game against Freo where Lukie fluffed two goals from the goal square.
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If he stays at the club you should all be supportnig him, there was nothing wrong with his games when he was moved forward.
You must have been watching Broadbeach
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If he stays at the club you should all be supportnig him, there was nothing wrong with his games when he was moved forward.
You must have been watching Broadbeach
Well I saw him live and thought he went really well actually, did a lot of work and running off the ball...
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WAT, he is a better kick for goal than say Miller however Mcguane still makes my eyes bleed.
You only have to look at the recent game against Freo where Lukie fluffed two goals from the goal square.
Yep makes mine bleed too, there again Cotch missed 5 against the Dons, not from the square but they wern't that hard.
Anyway, see what happens with him I suppose.
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If he stays at the club you should all be supportnig him, there was nothing wrong with his games when he was moved forward.
You must have been watching Broadbeach
Well I saw him live and thought he went really well actually, did a lot of work and running off the ball...
I have seen him live many times and I have come to the conclusion that if he is in the side we won't be winning a premiership. Happy to have him as depth for one more year but it will be stuffing scary if he's running around in a finals game.
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If he stays at the club you should all be supportnig him, there was nothing wrong with his games when he was moved forward.
You must have been watching Broadbeach
Well I saw him live and thought he went really well actually, did a lot of work and running off the ball...
I have seen him live many times and I have come to the conclusion that if he is in the side we won't be winning a premiership. Happy to have him as depth for one more year but it will be stuffing scary if he's running around in a finals game.
Yep agree, thats what I said earlier, I am happy to keep him for another year until someone else can put their hand up or we recruit for his role.
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Mcguane is being shopped.
If no body wants him he will be recontrcacred for depth .
Is in for a big pay it [ed. cut?] regardless
Please let there be someone stupid enough to get sucked in by his last few games up forward for us and take him off our hands :pray.
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If he stays at the club you should all be supportnig him, there was nothing wrong with his games when he was moved forward.
You must have been watching Broadbeach
Well I saw him live and thought he went really well actually, did a lot of work and running off the ball...
I have seen him live many times and I have come to the conclusion that if he is in the side we won't be winning a premiership. Happy to have him as depth for one more year but it will be stuffing scary if he's running around in a finals game.
he is not even a depth player , he is just a fraud, stuff him off
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McGuane kicked 14 goals against Melb, GC (which we lost), Bris, Dogs, Ess in freefall and Port (draw) whereas he kicked just one goal in total against the Roos, Carl and Freo. He's only "depth" if we are playing a woeful bottom side who we should be beating anyway without him. Against even mediocre mid-ladder opposition he is a liability out there. After 8 years on our list you would think the Club would realise he's not up to AFL and we would've been better off long-term getting games into a young forward.
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He just isn't good enough, drafted in 2004.
Depth player is another way if saying not up to it.
He's an off cut. Move on
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List Clogger
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Unfortunately that very lack of depth costs us severly once the likes of grimes,Ty,and foley were ruled out for the season
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Poor decision to keep him - but there is always hope or we would be Tiger supporters!
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Happy if the club payed stuff all to keep him hope he plays 7 games just in case he breeds some talent then pee him off
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MCG HAS A CRACK AND HE KEEPS THE BALL LOCKED IN WITH HIS FIERCE TACKLING
THERE ARE A HELL OF A LOT OF BLUDGERS BEFORE MCG
LOOK AT OUR INSIPID LEADER
JACK SHAME ON YOU BAGGING MCG :clapping
Where's my old mate Roy? Mods, can you come clean?
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Bump
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We are short.kpp.and ruck.currently.
Without mcgaube coburg would be without a chb.
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If he stays at the club you should all be supportnig him, there was nothing wrong with his games when he was moved forward.
You must have been watching Broadbeach
Well I saw him live and thought he went really well actually, did a lot of work and running off the ball...
I have seen him live many times and I have come to the conclusion that if he is in the side we won't be winning a premiership. Happy to have him as depth for one more year but it will be stuffing scary if he's running around in a finals game.
As a forward, He can't crash a pack. He has to have a nice little opening to slide into (coach no innuendo please ;D) or wait for the ball to fall to the back of the pack before he takes a mark.
A couple of times he tried to crash the pack only to bounce off like a super ball.
(http://i47.tinypic.com/30wrus3.gif)
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McG
<3
The only player I like now on our list now that Miller is gone.
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<3
What is this symbol '<3 ' ?
Is it an ice-cream? Is it a machine? I dont get it.
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<3
What is this symbol '<3 ' ?
Is it an ice-cream? Is it a machine? I dont get it.
It means I wanna marry you
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<3
What is this symbol '<3 ' ?
Is it an ice-cream? Is it a machine? I dont get it.
It means I wanna marry you
I do!
:-*
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The AFL site says there's only 3 free agents of note - Clinton Young, Jordan Russell and Bret Thornton - left with less than 24 hours to go until the end of the free agency period.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/149890/default.aspx
McGuane was our only free agent candidate so does that mean he has been re-signed?
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no, because they said only three agents of note.
Nothing to do with with mr magoo at all.
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<3
What is this symbol '<3 ' ?
Is it an ice-cream? Is it a machine? I dont get it.
It means I wanna marry you
I do!
:-*
Not sure why one eyed edited the post, he didn't change nothing
OE: Edited the quote; your post was fine :)
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Back on topic you two, OE may have thought the post was fine but I seen it as gay.
The broadbeach bullet, how many games will he get next year?, hopefully only a couple.
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Stop trolling one eyed
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I can't believe Im going to post this, but is this guy turning into a serious viable option for us up fwd? I thought he was really good tonight. Creates a contest all the time, rarely gets outpointed by direct opponent point blank and wins a fair few of those contests.
He's a mobile 3rd tall that scraps and competes hard and when he cuts out brain fades (cant recall any tonight) he's a valuable contributor. Took a couple of big strong grabs, laid some big tackles and seemed to have a good understanding with jack and Vickery.
Is it too early to call? Im almost ready to pull the trigger and say he's going to do another S.Edwards. :cheers
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Have never, ever seen him do anything against a good side up forward. He was okay tonight (and in several games last season against poo clubs like Carlton) but his performance is about the minimum I would ever accept from someone who gets a pathetic player like Bootsma standing him for much of the night. Got lucky with a 50m penalty but he also saved our arses with that tackle at the end. Did take a nice grab when we were coming out of defense late too. His forward pressure is valuable but I'd be shocked if he could become a 40+ goal kicker
Would not surprise me if he has a bad game and people want him gawn so that Elton, Astbury or A Edwards can come in.
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well done Luke..as Dimma said he always gives a contest and at this moment that is serving a need.
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i cant believe it either, but well done mcguane.
It's usually us that make the average players of other sides look good.
Happy to be on the other end.
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Don't think he is good enough long term.
Grimes back. Griff forward. Mcgaune out seems the best outcome. Sadly mcgaune is playing at a greater intensity and will keep his spot. On the upside we have a couple kids in reserve for that position: Elton/Astbury/Ohanlon etc.
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Doesnt have to be good long term, he's doing his job now and offering plenty
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Lots of supporters me included would like to see Griff play forward.However at this point of his development i dont think it matters ,he just needs to play football and start to find the pill too
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Forward or back, Griff would want to play a hell of a lot better than he did tonight. McGuane played a perfect role as a 3rd tall forward and I can't wait for someone to force him out on form - will be a great thing!
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Much at the amusement of bay M5, I kept confessing my love for McGuane throughout the match ;D
Been a fan of his style since he was moved forward last year. I love the crash and bash, I love the grunt work. Provides a contest, pees off a few opposition players and gets in their face, loves to tackle to hurt and kicks a few on the way. Don't have to be a gun to be a good player. Knows his limitations and knows he's playing for his career. Will be a solid contributor without being a star. I think Vickery had a good night and as long as Vicks and Jack get the defensive attention McGuane can run a muck on the crap defender :thumbsup
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I still don't see him as a long term option but credit where it's due for last night's game. McGuane contested and fought like a man possessed all night.
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McGuane is grabbing his chances
By Nathan Schmook
afl.com.au
Friday, March 29, 2013
RICHMOND forward Luke McGuane knows how significant Thursday night's thrilling five-point win over Carlton was, even if he's prone to talk down the role his game-saving tackle played in it.
A Tiger for nine years, McGuane has never played in a win over Carlton and that run looked set to continue at the MCG as the Blues surged to kick eight of the game's last 10 goals.
In the dying stages, Richmond held its collective breath as Chris Yarran missed two gettable shots that surely would have won the game for Carlton.
Then, with the Tigers ahead by four points in the final minute, McGuane had his match-saving moment when young Blue Josh Bootsma tried to rebound out of Carlton's defensive 50.
"Lucky I got a hand on him and dragged him in," McGuane told AFL.com.au on Thursday night.
"I just tried to equalise numbers and then he tried to take me on. He's a lighter frame than me.
"I think we always knew we had them, but we just ran out of legs a little bit towards the end.
"I think we learned a bit out of it, that we need to slow the game down. We slowed it down and we got the win."
Thursday night was Richmond's second round one win over Carlton since the fixture became a regular in 2007, and it snapped a
nine-game losing streak against the Blues.
McGuane, who kicked two goals in a significant performance, said the win meant a lot.
"The last time we beat Carlton in round one was 2008, so it's a massive thing for us," he said.
"We don't want to get too carried away, but it's a good start to the season and we start on the right side of the ledger for once.
"Confidence is a big thing in football and usually after round one our confidence isn't at the highest.
"It's good to get this win, especially against Carlton, and get that voodoo off our back. Now we just move on."
Coach Damien Hardwick praised McGuane's ability to compete in a forward line that functioned well with Jack Riewoldt pushing higher up the ground.
"I don't think he got out-marked once tonight when he was one against two," Hardwick said.
"He had a couple of huge tackles and he kicked two goals. He competes, and that's what we thrive on as a footy club.
"If he keeps ticking those boxes he's going to play a lot of footy for us."
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2013-03-29/mcguane-grabs-tiger-win
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Lukey channeling Disco Roach 1979 ;D :clapping
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/video/2013-04-05/mcguane-flies-against-saints
(http://www.aflphotos.com.au/images/thumbs/450/2013/04/05/280928.jpg)(http://www.aflphotos.com.au/images/thumbs/450/2013/04/05/280929.jpg)(http://www.aflphotos.com.au/images/thumbs/450/2013/04/05/280930.jpg)
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Took some very strong marks against the Saints
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Some people have to pull there head in I think.Dimma and his crew have gave him first crack this year and it's his place to loose until Elton and co step up and are ready.For me he can play the Roberts Lewis Thomson and Kepler Bradley role for us.
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Doesnt have to be good long term, he's doing his job now and offering plenty
Oh yes, Lukey is offering heaps
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Some people have to pull there head in I think.Dimma and his crew have gave him first crack this year and it's his place to loose until Elton and co step up and are ready.For me he can play the Roberts Lewis Thomson and Kepler Bradley role for us.
See how he goes against a decent side before the ticket tape parade.
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Some people have to pull there head in I think.Dimma and his crew have gave him first crack this year and it's his place to loose until Elton and co step up and are ready.For me he can play the Roberts Lewis Thomson and Kepler Bradley role for us.
See how he goes against a decent side before the ticket tape parade.
Carlton are a decent side, make no mistake about that. And St Kilda arent to shabby either
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Some people have to pull there head in I think.Dimma and his crew have gave him first crack this year and it's his place to loose until Elton and co step up and are ready.For me he can play the Roberts Lewis Thomson and Kepler Bradley role for us.
See how he goes against a decent side before the ticket tape parade.
Both Saints and Blues decent sides.
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Going very well... :thumbsup
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Played a great cameo last night, shouldve had 4. Its no coincidence that when another tall is giving the opposition headaches Jack has more space to work in. Happiest when he slotted the goal after that ripping mark
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Richmond's Luke McGuane is enjoying his new role as a forward this season
Matt Windley
From: Herald Sun
April 09, 2013 11:24AM
AFL players often go back to go forward in their careers.
But in the case of Richmond's Luke McGuane, he's making good on the promise he showed as a junior forward after spending right seasons as a defender.
"I've enjoyed the change, the freshen up I suppose," McGuane said this morning.
"I've spent eight years down back, but got drafted as a forward so it's good to get down there."
McGuane has kicked four goals and averaged 13.5 disposals and 3.5 marks per game in the Tigers first two games - both wins.
The switch has been a long time coming according to the 26-year-old, who paid credit to the influence of forward line coach Mark Williams.
Not "Choco", but the former Carlton and Footscray player who coached Sandringham to three VFL premierships in the 2000s.
"I did need change," McGuane said.
"I started as a forward and Mark Williams came along and said 'let's get you back up forward' and Damien (Hardwick) was really good about it.
"Initially it was for forward pressure because I like to compete, so they put me up there and I've enjoyed it and am now starting to get some rewards on the end of it and am enjoying working with Jack (Riewoldt) and Ty (Vickery)."
McGuane also paid credit to the other Mark Williams, the premiership-winning Port Adelaide coach.
"Choco, to work with this year, has been great for me and given me a lot of confidence."
McGuane said he learned a lot from defending the likes of Matthew Lloyd, Scott Lucas, Brendan Fevola and Lance Franklin over the years.
But now that he's up the other end of the ground he's enjoying being able to fly for marks rather than spoil them.
"You can fly with a bit more confidence up forward knowing that if you bring it to ground then hopefully our crumbers are going to get a hold of it," he said.
"Whereas when you used to fly down back it was their crumbers who would get a hold of it and I'd be the one in trouble for dropping it."
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/afl/teams/richmonds-luke-mcguane-is-enjoying-his-new-role-as-a-forward-this-season/story-e6frf9mx-1226615638786
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Elton and mcbean looking sharp at training. Griffs is turning into a monster.
I wonder how long Luke will hold this spot.
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I wonder how long Luke will hold this spot.
For as long as he has bigger nurries than all 3 put together.
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He's definitely an upgrade on our good friend Miller.
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Elton and mcbean looking sharp at training. Griffs is turning into a monster.
I wonder how long Luke will hold this spot.
For as long as he continues to play the way he has been.
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Elton and mcbean looking sharp at training. Griffs is turning into a monster.
I wonder how long Luke will hold this spot.
Would think I what I seen on Sunday, both Edwards and McBean are ahead of Elton if Lukes loses form
Somehow I can see Luke playing the majority of the year barring injury
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Somehow I can see Luke playing the majority of the year barring injury
Absolutely, always know what you are going to get with Luke (the good & the bad), offers a contest, 2nd, 3rd efforts. Apart from his kicking for goal which is average, cannot think of anyone deserving of his place right now
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Elton and mcbean looking sharp at training. Griffs is turning into a monster.
I wonder how long Luke will hold this spot.
Great sig picture, awesome show :clapping
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Somehow I can see Luke playing the majority of the year barring injury
Absolutely, always know what you are going to get with Luke (the good & the bad), offers a contest, 2nd, 3rd efforts. Apart from his kicking for goal which is average, cannot think of anyone deserving of his place right now
his set shots are pretty good
just needs more composure when kicks at goal during play
but that will come
his marking and contested work must be commended
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still has to go despite being competetive. one thing though hes infinately a better performer than vickery atm.
we all complain about our wastefulness well nthat is never ever going to get better with the likes of mcguane.
all credit to him he competes hard gives a contest and his all, but fair dinkum its not enough. what holds us back as a team is the almost total lack of polish across nearly areas. its nothing new we have all complained about it.
we are currently like last yr a middling side say 7th thru 12th 14th. the only way to get better and get out of this bracket is become more polished and more well rounded.
the concern last yr and again this yr with wins has always been the likely hood of them papering over the cracks. make no mistake we are a middling side like last yr and it wont take much for the wheels to fall off.
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:bow
still has to go despite being competetive. one thing though hes infinately a better performer than vickery atm.
we all complain about our wastefulness well nthat is never ever going to get better with the likes of mcguane.
all credit to him he competes hard gives a contest and his all, but fair dinkum its not enough. what holds us back as a team is the almost total lack of polish across nearly areas. its nothing new we have all complained about it.
we are currently like last yr a middling side say 7th thru 12th 14th. the only way to get better and get out of this bracket is become more polished and more well rounded.
the concern last yr and again this yr with wins has always been the likely hood of them papering over the cracks. make no mistake we are a middling side like last yr and it wont take much for the wheels to fall off.
And clearly you have the champagne on ice for when they do ::)
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Weapon
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stuffen killing it thats where hes at , taking 5 or 6 marks a week I50 is rolled gold :shh
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Weapon
See how his next 3 weeks go before I buy it. :gotigers
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stuffen killing it thats where hes at , taking 5 or 6 marks a week I50 is rolled gold :shh
thought he had a real good game today credit where its due. he deserves his spot atm. i still believe though its just a matter of time before he reverts back to type.
when he consistently does it over a sustained period of time i will only then revise my opinion of him. lets be honest its going to take a fair bit to erase 9 or 10 yrs of mostly crap performances.
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Jackstar is owed apology if this keeps up!
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You know a blokes travelling well when he's dobbing them from 45 near the boundary line, doing shymmies, wrong footing his opponent and then pinpointing 20 metre passes inside 50. :bow :bow :bow Good on him
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stuffen killing it thats where hes at , taking 5 or 6 marks a week I50 is rolled gold :shh
fools gold perhaps?
earning his spot at the moment, though.
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I doubted him, but he is getting me pumped atm, turning up each week and doing a good job, plucking marks kicking goals, can't fault that...
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Obviously Wallace played him out of position for all of his career!!!! :wallywink
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Fairly rubbish outing. Back to his usual.
I have grave doubts a Richmond flag winning side will include Lucas
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Got his two goals for the game.
Did the job expected of a third forward.
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Lukey will probably finish with 40 goals for the season if he keeps up this return of 2 goals per game which is pretty good for 3rd forward on face value but I still don't see him as a long term option if we want to become a top 4 side. The past two weeks has seen a return to too many brain fades, being out of position too often when the ball comes in, and too many free kicks against gifting the ball back to the opposition.
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Lukey will probably finish with 40 goals for the season if he keeps up this return of 2 goals per game which is pretty good for 3rd forward on face value but I still don't see him as a long term option if we want to become a top 4 side. The past two weeks has seen a return to too many brain fades, being out of position too often when the ball comes in, and too many free kicks against gifting the ball back to the opposition.
Better quality opposition last two weeks MT but for now he is doing a job and doing it okay as a whole.
If we can get 8-10 goals from Jack Luke and Ty on average then we'll be hard to beat.
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1 kick
1 handball
0 goal
0 inside
Steaming pile of crap.
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Q:- would we lose much by playing Griff as the third tall against essendon?
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at the moment playing griff would be like playing "mr nobody" there
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1 kick
1 handball
0 goal
0 inside
Steaming pile of crap.
Was something wrong with him, prompting him to be be cap? Or did he just have a poor day?
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1 kick
1 handball
0 goal
0 inside
Steaming pile of crap.
Was something wrong with him, prompting him to be be cap? Or did he just have a poor day?
No nothing wrong, it was just that he strung a few good games together and had to come back to normality
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Q:- would we lose much by playing Griff as the third tall against essendon?
NO!
Drop McGuane and play Griffiths!
McGuane didn't even want to jump today!
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Had a poor day
Everyone has them
Everyone ;D
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Luke has been playing out of skin IMO. He always looks awkward around the footy, I think he's been really serviceable but just like Miller last year we can't expect him to play at AFL standard every week.
We need another key forward desperately. Aaron Edwards needs to be tried or even bring in the Bean for a game against Adelaide after the bye.
Luke isn't the answer for mine. He just isn't at the level IMO.
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Luke has been playing out of skin IMO. He always looks awkward around the footy, I think he's been really serviceable but just like Miller last year we can't expect him to play at AFL standard every week.
We need another key forward desperately. Aaron Edwards needs to be tried or even bring in the Bean for a game against Adelaide after the bye.
Luke isn't the answer for mine. He just isn't at the level IMO.
have always thought this but when i say it the nuffers have a go and it degenerates.
the only thing i disagree on here is bringing a edwards in for a genuine tall. if we replace mcguane it should be for a player like elton astbury or griffiths all genuine talls. all genuine forwards imo.
for sure play a edwards, play him in a pocket or off the bench changing the structure down.
let me put it this way
when sides structure up they normally go kpf chf should be one of astbury elton, kpf ff shuold be riewoldt, and ruck /forward should be vickery in a pocket if he can perform the role of either a ruckman or a kpf. . when the ruck forward goes on ball bring edwards on.
it is not a problem. teams still rotate their ruckman both forward and off the bench. aaron edwards meets a lot of requirements that we lack the only criteria i put on giving him a game is as a medium sized player he defends well and he works hard. he cant play as a tall we need him to apply defensive pressure when we dont have the ball.
i like aaron as a player but he doesnt get a game atm because he must add defense to his game.
imo hed be the best leading player and hit up player at the club that we have. we are screaming for a player who is similar to him.
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Spent the night before in hospital and probably shouldn't have played. But continue regardless.
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If in hospital night before should not have played. Edwards could have played. There was no need for McGuane to play if he was unwell.
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Not disagreeing. Just providing some information.
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If in hospital night before should not have played. Edwards could have played. There was no need for McGuane to play if he was unwell.
Why not, that's how we manage our players at the RFC, if they are injured or sick, play them until they fail or breakdown, what's wrong with that.. :whistle :whistle :whistle
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Spent the night before in hospital and probably shouldn't have played. But continue regardless.
Not doubting what you are saying HK but what was he in hospital for exactly?
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lack of football ability.
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We didn't help any of our key forwards yesterday, constantly dropping the ball on their heads instead of putting out in front.
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Spent the night before in hospital and probably shouldn't have played. But continue regardless.
Not doubting what you are saying HK but what was he in hospital for exactly?
Believe it was gastro.
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We didn't help any of our key forwards yesterday, constantly dropping the ball on their heads instead of putting out in front.
Yeah its not Luke Wayne Careys McGaune fault at all.
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We didn't help any of our key forwards yesterday, constantly dropping the ball on their heads instead of putting out in front.
Lukey dropped a few on the lead that he's been gobbling up in recent weeks
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Spent the night before in hospital and probably shouldn't have played. But continue regardless.
Not doubting what you are saying HK but what was he in hospital for exactly?
Believe it was gastro.
if that is the case then he shouldn't have played end of story
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Spent the night before in hospital and probably shouldn't have played. But continue regardless.
Not doubting what you are saying HK but what was he in hospital for exactly?
Believe it was gastro.
if that is the case then he shouldn't have played end of story
X2
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lack of football ability.
:lol
If you can't get more than 2 touches on Seller/Dunn then you should be delisted on the spot. Gastro or nos gastro.
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Had a poor day
Everyone has them
Everyone ;D
Trent Cotchin poor day - 25 disposals. Luke McGuane good day = 5 marks 2 goals against a poo side. Oh yay he's turned it around what a champ ;D
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McGuanes forms been drifting as the season has gone on. If he was sick, shouldn't have played. He isn't holding his marks like he was at the start of the season.
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Fwd line worked better.
Vickery kills it by trying to be equal no 1 target and he has no football brain.
Truth.
Keep Mac in this week and see if he can replicate his performance.
Better
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Forward line worked well. McGuane a decent 3rd tall.
Disagree about Vickery though. Has a good football brain and skills/athleticism. Just needs experience and size.
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Vickery is Baby Huey
(http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2451/3717177601_84347216db.jpg)
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McGun....10 games 16 goals
Sticky Vicky 16 games 16 goals
Azza 6 games 3 goals.
:shh
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Agree re McGuane, much better structure when he is there, competes at every contest & gives 2nd, 3rd efforts
Would just love to see Vickery fight for (read earn) his spot back not just be gifted it. Not going to happen sadly (obviously)
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McGun....10 games 16 goals
Sticky Vicky 16 games 16 goals
Azza 6 games 3 goals.
:shh
Tyrone agility around the ground means he is very handy in the ruck
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So frustrating we are still debating the merits of Mcguane up forwards compared to Vickery. :banghead
As I've said before Vickery is truly the most frustrating player on our list.
Is it because I expect more? Probably.
Maybe its also because Griffiths was supposed to have already cemented his place as a third tall.
All this could of been avoided if B.H listened to my suggestion of Jesse(I told you so)White. :whistle
Instead we'd be debating how many goals our forward line would be kicking each week. :shh
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who said your ban was up limpgot? out ya get
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jessie white would be great for us,if we could convince the opposition to play a defender giving away 10cm each week..............
LMAO at the fapping over one game against an undersized opponent.
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Should be Jack, Ty and McGuane all three in the F50 IMO. Until we get a proper power forward that is...
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who said your ban was up limpgot? out ya get
:lol
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Jesse White has been good this year. Actually playing with some pig in him. He'd get a game at our club with ease and would lose the hunger & then he'd turn to poo like he does when he gets comfortable. His value has gone up massively now anyway
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not sure he's been any better than mcguanne. so i suppose if mcguanne gets a game for us so would he.
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Jesse White has been good this year. Actually playing with some pig in him. He'd get a game at our club with ease and would lose the hunger & then he'd turn to poo like he does when he gets comfortable. His value has gone up massively now anyway
spot on Chigga
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How was Mcguanes role different?
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Mcguane is a bit of a first up specialist, challenge is for him to repeat 2 run ins in from a spell :shh
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When Vickery learns to JUMP for a mark he will be a better forward.
He is better in the ruck!
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Mcguane is a bit of a first up specialist, challenge is for him to repeat 2 run ins in from a spell :shh
You're right Bo. I fear that Luke might go missing in a finals game but I hope not.
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Luke McGuane was more like Mick McGuane in the first half. He had 3.2 and six marks to his name by half-time and brought the yellow and black faithful to their feet at the Punt Road end after a high-flying pluck in the second term.
Source: Herald-Sun website (http://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/richmonds-dan-jackson-does-job-on-brisbane-as-lions-worry-about-bigger-names/story-fndv8t7m-1226694792020)
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Lukas
:clapping
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another game like most of his career. puts in 1 or 2 good games and then goes missing. Prefer McBean get a chance than keep Luke in the team.
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Prefer McBean get a chance than keep Luke in the team.
Just hope he kicks another bag tomorrow to force the change.
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Been saying this for weeks :banghead
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http://imgur.com/3Cyp22o
Lukas new outfit
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http://imgur.com/3Cyp22o
Lukas new outfit
Oh Bents