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General => General Discussion => Topic started by: Harry on July 21, 2004, 02:06:12 PM
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Did anyone watch this documentary on SBS last night ?
Nothing new to me but it was very interesting and eye opening to anyone who was of the opinion that going to War in Iraq was the right thing to do.
Unbeleivable how in todays world, where we pride ourselves on being civilised, informed and compassionate, that a propaganda regime can brainwash the masses in the same manner that Nazi Germany did 50 years ago.
Lies, lies and more lies.
From Iraq having weapons of mass destruction to Iraq's involvement in September 11.
Yet the general public lapped it up !!
"It has to be true becaues CNN, CBS and FOX says it is "!!
How these hawks in the Whitehouse can manifest a plot that even Hollywood couldn't think of, and get away with it is just mind boggling.
Interesting how immediately after the September 11 attack Bush, Wolfowitz, Cheney and others decided to pin this on Iraq before even knowing what had happened, even before the CIA had given them any intelligence on the event.
If you think that the documentary is based on some left wing opinion, then think again. All the accounts and information were given by current and former CIA personnel, political and media representatives.
Another interesting account in the documentary was when the Whitehouse employed the services of a former/current CIA agent (? I think he was, didn't quite catch his title) to go to Nigeria and inspect whether Nigeria had been dealing Uranium and other nuclear materials with Iraq. His detailed report to the Whitehouse outlined that there had been no such dealings. However in Bush's address to the nation prior to the war, a speach that is probably the most important in a Presidents reign, he blatantly lied and said that there had been dealing between Nigeria and Iraq in nuclear materials.
It was also interesting how the Whitehouse implemented a smear campign on Hanx Blix, the UN weapons inspector, after he breifed them and the world that Iraq had no weapons.
The best bit was when an old US government advisor absolutely blasted Bush and his administration at a government hearing, about the lies, the deception, and the arrogance.
Part II to this documentary will be next Tuesday on SBS at 8.30 pm.
Also another eye opening documentary on the whole Bush/Whitehouse/Iraq farce is "Farenheit 9/11" by Mike Moore that is out on cinemas at the moment I beleive. You can also go to his website wwwmikemoore.com (I think it is - or something like that)
Bush, Cheney, Wolfowitz, Powell, Howard, Downer, Blair etc. - all international criminals of the highest order. Have all been directly responible for the slaughter of thousands of innocent Iraqi men, women and children. If there is any justice in this world they must all join Milosevic and Hussein at the war crimes tribunal !!
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What else was of particular intrest was the fact that the BUSH admin is
being compared to Hitlers regime in regards o uits propaganda techniques.
Please God......Make him die !!!!
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Death is too good for him Ox.
He needs to grow a beard and hide in a hole. And when they find him he needs some guy with white gloves to look inside his mouth with a flash light.
The most bewildering and most disgusting thing about it all is not the the lies and not the slaughtering of innocent people, but the fact that they will get away with it with nothing more than a slap on the wrist.
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So true Harry Hedgecockopolous.
Where are all the pyschopathic snipers when there is a real job to do?
Bush should be put on trial for
1)Fraudulent actions - rigging the election.
2)Murder.
Believe me H,the yanks as a whole do not like this idiot,especially given the fact more thajn half of the country are either Black,Hispanic or Jewish.
In a similar way o Frawley this guy has set the USA back 20 years in PR.
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And they wonder why 'anti-Americanism' is on the rise!
1) Which is the only country in the world to have dropped bombs on over twenty different countries since 1945?
2) Which is the only country to have used nuclear weapons?
3) Which country was responsible for a car bomb which killed 80 civilians in Beirut in 1985, in a botched assassination attempt, thereby making it the most lethal terrorist bombing in modern Middle East history?
4) Which country's illegal bombing of Libya in 1986 was described by the UN Legal Committee as a "classic case" of terrorism?
5) Which country rejected the order of the International Court of Justice (ICJ) to terminate its "unlawful use of force" against Nicaragua in 1986, and then vetoed a UN Security Council resolution calling on all states to observe international law?
6) Which country was accused by a UN-sponsored truth commission of providing "direct and indirect support" for "acts of genocide" against the Mayan Indians in Guatemala during the 1980s?
7) Which country unilaterally withdrew from the Anti-Ballistic Missile (ABM) Treaty in ecember 2001?
8) Which country renounced the efforts to negotiate a verification process for the Biological Weapons Convention and brought an international conference on the matter to a halt in July 2001?
9) Which country prevented the United Nations from curbing the gun trade at a small arms conference in July 2001?
10) Aside from Somalia, which is the only other country in the world to have refused to ratify the UN Convention on the Rights of the Child?
11) Which is the only Western country which allows the death penalty to be applied to children?
12) Which is the only G7 country to have refused to sign the 1997 Mine Ban Treaty, forbidding the use of landmines?
13) Which is the only G7 country to have voted against the creation of the International Criminal Court (ICC) in 1998?
14) Which was the only other country to join with Israel in opposing a 1987 General Assembly resolution condemning international terrorism?
15) Which country refuses to fully pay its debts to the United Nations yet reserves its right to veto United Nations resolutions?
Answer to all 15 questions:
The United States of America.
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Well said Harry the SBS watching HedgeHog.
I think its no surprise that the biggest carnts on earth are also ruling it. Has it ever been different?
Having said that, we are all responsible for what they have done becuase we've kept quiet, turned a blind eye or been selective in what we believe. And the lifestyle we have secured has been on the back of all that schit that they have done.
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Well said Harry the SBS watching HedgeHog.
I think its no surprise that the biggest carnts on earth are also ruling it. Has it ever been different?
Having said that, we are all responsible for what they have done becuase we've kept quiet, turned a blind eye or been selective in what we believe. And the lifestyle we have secured has been on the back of all that schit that they have done.
The guy really is quite clever !!!!
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Well said Harry the SBS watching HedgeHog.
I think its no surprise that the biggest carnts on earth are also ruling it. Has it ever been different?
Having said that, we are all responsible for what they have done becuase we've kept quiet, turned a blind eye or been selective in what we believe. And the lifestyle we have secured has been on the back of all that schit that they have done.
The guy really is quite clever !!!!
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Having said that, we are all responsible for what they have done becuase we've kept quiet, turned a blind eye or been selective in what we believe. And the lifestyle we have secured has been on the back of all that schit that they have done.
Aaaaah yes JohnFilosopher.......very valid points.
Why should we care ? We lead a cosy life and we don't really need to know whats happening thousands of miles away. Unless we tune into SBS at 6.30 pm we won't know how kids are being blown to bits. Out of sight out of mind.
We're too pre-occupied about working 9-5 then coming home to watch big brother and Charmed.
What are Iraqi limbs got to do with us ??
Yes, its a legitimate war because David Johnston and John Howard told me so. That's good enough for me.......now what's on after Queer Eye ?
Doesn't matter now, the war happened over a year ago. No use crying over spilt milk.
They've handed Iraq over to their people now so alls well that ends well. No harm done.
US puppets and thousands of US soldiers remain you say ? Oh well they need some help to get things off the ground. Everything will be OK.
Now whats on channel 9 ?
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lmfaooo sad isn't it....
We'd rather stay oblivious to anything that's harmful because its anathema to our hedonistic (head-up-our-asses)lifestyles.
The moment we are saturated with shows like queer-eye, big brother, charmed, adore people like Paris Hilton and have a culture which values penis extensions, plastic surgery, hair transplants and viagra, we really have to ask, WTF are we doing?
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LMAOOOOOOOOOO@ A Pop culture that targets peoples weaknesses.
LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOO@ "Add 3 inches to your manhood - Ask me how" emails every 5 minutes.
LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO@Being able to buy Zannax,Valium,Ambien,Vicadin all online without prescriptions.
Actually writing a song at the moment called "American Therapy" about this.
LMAOOOOOOOOOOOO@Living there and calling the Mexicans wogs.
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lmfaooooo Ox. Sounds like a great idea for a song.
LMFAOOOOO@everything being cured chemically.
LMFAOOOOOOOO@inventing a tablet that makes your kid feel disciplined so that you don't have to force violence on him.
LMFAOOOOO@when human genetic engineering gets in full swing. "i'd like my son to have ten inches... I wouldn't want him to feel inadequate or anything...."
ROFLMFAOOOOOOOOO@Mexican wogs.
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Laffing boys.
LMAO at the west trying to pollute the rest of the world with their lifestyle
LMAO @ the western influenced TV programs soon to be introduced into the newly "liberated" Iraq -
- Queer eye for the Islamic Fundamentalist
- Big Mohamad
- Shiite Survivor
- Iraqi Idol
- Jerry Al-Spring-Ari
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ROFLMFAOOOOOOooooooooooOOOOOOO Haziz,
some more shows:
Aerobics Iraq Style
Wheel of Misfortune
Backyard Aerial Blitz
Ricki Laq
Muhammad's Daughters
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froooooooooooling guys. :scream
More.
Salik of the century.
Days of my Wives
The Young and the Headless
The price isnt right - YOU DIE
Just shoot me ! PLEASE!???
Law and Order - WMD
Kurd your enthusiasm.(import program)
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FLMFAOOoooooooooo :rollin ooooooOO@The young&the headless and salik of the century.
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Wheel of Misfortune
Backyard Aerial Blitz
Muhammad's Daughters
Queer eye for the Islamic Fundamentalist
Big Mohamad
Iraqi Idol
Jerry Al-Spring-Ari
These are absolute classics gentlemen. :rollin ;D :D
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LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO@Wheel of Misfortune.
:Contestants are nailed to a spinning wheel that reaches speeds of 420 mph
and have 7 minutes to recite the Koran in its entirety.
If unsuccessful,contestants have a choice of method of death
Categories are
1)-"Nerve Gas" - Live to Air.
2)-"Strap on a bomb" - Pick a USA Shopping centre !
3) "Guillotine Habib" - Go out the way your father,grandfather and great grandfather did
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LMAOOOO@The US influence on their social culture.
Films like
"Scar Samir"
Story of an Iraqi refugee who flees to Miami to deal in nerve gas and illegal arms.
"Muslim without a cause"
Story of an Allah worshipping rebel that broke all the rules of growing up in Tehran.
Had a red camel and carried an m15.
Iraqi Graffiti
WestBank story.
Dirty Allah.
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LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO@Wheel of Misfortune.
:Contestants are nailed to a spinning wheel that reaches speeds of 420 mph
and have 7 minutes to recite the Koran in its entirety.
If unsuccessful,contestants have a choice of method of death
Categories are
1)-"Nerve Gas" - Live to Air.
2)-"Strap on a bomb" - Pick an Israeli Shopping centre !
3) "Guillotine Habib" - Go out the way your father,grandfather and great grandfather did
Sadidtic priks arent they?
ROFLMFLFAOOOOoooo.
Lmfao@contestants having think music whilst they make their decision.
LMFAOOO@being disapppointed with the prizes they get as they are on the australian show.
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LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOO@Even if u win they kill you,only you're garuanteed Martyrdom
for your contribution to jihad.
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LMAOOOO@The US influence on their social culture.
Films like
"Scar Samir"
Story of an Iraqi refugee who flees to Miami to deal in nerve gas and illegal arms.
"Muslim without a cause"
Story of an Allah worshipping rebel that broke all the rules of growing up in Tehran.
Had a red camel and carried an m15.
Iraqi Graffiti
WestBank story.
Dirty Allah.
lmfaoooooooooooooooo dude. stuff, scary thing is that this is likely to happen once we push western values onto them.
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For his outstanding heroism during America’s desperate hour, William Rodriguez received a special commendation for valor from President George W. Bush at a special White House ceremony.
And that is the extent of the official story as it pertains to William Rodriguez’s involvement relating to rescue efforts following the 9/11 attacks.
But, as you shall see, his incredible heroism was but the tip of the 9/11 iceberg.
“Bombs! Bombs!”
Heroism and accolades aside, what is truly incredible about Rodriguez’s story is a shocking fact that has been concealed from public knowledge, and remains largely unknown to this day.
Rodriguez and a handful of co-workers who were down in the basement at the time of the attack, actually heard and felt huge explosions beneath their feet in the lower basement levels.
While this anomaly in itself should have been cause for serious investigation,
it is the timing of these explosions that is extremely troubling:
They occurred several seconds BEFORE the first airplane impacted the tower.
The first of these explosions, which occurred about 7-8 seconds before the plane struck the tower was so powerful it literally threw Rodriguez upwards, clean off the floor, as parts of the false ceiling collapsed onto and around him.
Rodriguez heard and felt at least three explosions going off down in the basement levels within seconds of each other.
Absolute pandemonium broke out, with screams of “Bombs! Bombs!” rising above the din as terrified workers scattered in all directions, frantically seeking ways to escape.
[NB: There were a total of six basement levels. Level-2, immediately below Rodriguez’s position and the apparent location of the first explosion, was a “Mechanical Floor”—a restricted access area.]
But the “bombs” were by no means confined to the basement levels.
During his subsequent rescue efforts on the upper floors, Rodriguez claims he heard explosions going off “all over the building.”
Felipe David, a colleague, who was working at the far end of basement Level-1 across from Rodriguez, fell victim to the second explosion. David was walking towards a supply room when the entire wall suddenly exploded in front of him.
Burned beyond recognition, David managed to stagger towards Rodriguez. Willy took one look at the man and froze.
The skin on his face had almost completely peeled away exposing raw, pink flesh, and the burnt skin of his outstretched arms was hanging horrifically, “like sheets of loose cloth.”
David was the first casualty whose life Rodriguez saved by carrying him up to paramedics at street level, after which he returned to the basement in spite of police orders.
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2011/08/10/%E2%80%9Clast-man-out-makes-shocking-911-disclosure/
w0t
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The Vulcans had almost limitless financing from the Black Eagle Trust.
By 2008 and even earlier the covert securities were worth trillions. The securities used to decimate the Soviets and end the Cold War were stored in certain broker’s vaults in the World Trade Center where they were destroyed on September 11, 2001. They would have come due for settlement and clearing on September 12, 2001. On the first day of the crisis, the SEC lifted “Rule 15c3-3: Customer Protection – Reserves and Custody of Securities.” Thus GSCC [Government Securities Clearing Corporation] was thus allowed to substitute other securities for the physical securities destroyed during the attack. “…collateral substitutions can and should be made with regard to immediately maturing collateral.” At this point in time, the Federal Reserve and its GSCC had created a settlement environment totally void of controls and reporting – where it could substitute valid, new government securities for the mature, illegal securities, and not have to record where the original bad securities had come from, or where the new securities went – all because the paper for the primary brokers for US securities had been eliminated. The federal agency investigating these bonds, the Office of Naval Intelligence was in the section of the Pentagon that was destroyed on September 11. It is worth remembering that on September 10, 2001 Rumsfeld announced that the Pentagon couldn’t account for $2.3 trillion.
Wot
http://thearrowsoftruth.com/tag/black-eagle-trust/
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You go Girl.....
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You go Girl.....
The technology revolution has transformed organizations across the private sector, but not ours, not fully, not yet. We are, as they say, tangled in our anchor chain. Our financial systems are decades old. According to some estimates, we cannot track $2.3 trillion in transactions. We cannot share information from floor to floor in this building because it's stored on dozens of technological systems that are inaccessible or incompatible.
Remarks as Delivered by Secretary of Defense Donald H. Rumsfeld, The Pentagon , Monday, September 10, 2001
Wot? Where the 2300 billion dollars go. It was day before 9/11 so I spoke just forgetabout it
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http://www.theage.com.au/world/911-moon-landings-jfk-assassination-conspiracy-theories-follow-a-deep-pattern-20140618-zsd0d.html?skin=text-only
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conspiracy theorist is just another term used to try to denigrate someone that says something you disagree with but cant cant actually construct an argument against.
like leftie, racist, greenie, etc......
usually the domain of those with right wing leanings who think that there is no way the government could ever do anything wrong or bad and lap up the ignorant xenophobic hatred said government propagates to keep the sheep blissfully ignorant.
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Yeah that's great al, except most 9/11 conspiracy theories originate from the far-right.
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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Zv7BImVvEyk
What Was In Building 7?
Building 7 was one of New York City's larger buildings. A sleek bronze-colored skyscraper with a trapezoidal footprint, it occupied an entire city block and rose over 600 feet above street level.
Built in 1985, it was formerly the headquarters of the junk-bond firm Drexel Burnham Lambert, which contributed to the Savings and Loans collapse, prompting the $500-billion taxpayer-underwritten bailout of the latter 1980s. At the time of its destruction, it exclusively housed government agencies and financial institutions. It contained offices of the IRS, Secret Service, and SEC.
Tenant Square Feet Floor Industry
Salomon Smith Barney 1,202,900 GRND,1-6,13,18-46 Financial Institution
IRS Regional Council 90,430 24, 25 Government
U.S. Secret Service 85,343 9,10 Government
C.I.A. N/A N/A Government
American Express Bank International 106,117 7,8,13 Financial Institution
Standard Chartered Bank 111,398 10,13,26,27 Financial Institution
Provident Financial Management 9,000 7,13 Financial Institution
ITT Hartford Insurance Group 122,590 19-21 [Insurance]
First State Management Group, Inc 4,000 21 Insurance
Federal Home Loan Bank 47,490 22 Financial Institution
NAIC Securities 22,500 19 Insurance
Securities & Exchange Commission 106,117 11,12,13 Government
Mayor's Office of Emergency Mgmt 45,815 23 Government
This list is based on a table published by CNN.com, which did not include CIA, whose tenancy was disclosed after the attack in the New York Times article. 1
One of the most interesting tenants was then-Mayor Giuliani's Office of Emergency Management, and its emergency command center on the 23rd floor. This floor received 15 million dollars worth of renovations, including independent and secure air and water supplies, and bullet and bomb resistant windows designed to withstand 200 MPH winds. 2 The 1993 bombing must have been part of the rationale for the command center, which overlooked the Twin Towers, a prime terrorist target.
How curious that on the day of the attack, Guiliani and his entourage set up shop in a different headquarters, abandoning the special bunker designed precisely for such an event. 3
References
1. List of World Trade Center tenants, CNN.com,
2. Terrorism and Anti-Terrorism, Gotham Gazette, 9/12/01
3. Giuliani Improvises After Command Center Gets Hit, Washington Technology, 10/08/01 [cached]
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http://www.redflagnews.com/headlines/wow-cspan-aired-this-unbelievable-date-aired-september-7-2014
Sorry :(
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I am going to be transcribing the key points of the video here. This post will be constantly edited till I finish watching the video. Help me find sources and maybe we can make a difference. EDIT: all the sources for the video are in the video's description.
September 1991 - George H.W. Bush and a number of bankers and people in intelligence, finance a $240 billion dollar covert operations war chest (called Project Hammer) that were scheduled to come due on September 12th, 2001.
Project Hammer was mainly used to finance a cover economic operation against the collapsing Soviet Union, where "unknown" Western investors bought up much of the Soviet industry, with a focus on oil and gas, crashing the Russian economy, looting its central bank, orchestrating the "great ruble scam" and a number of other clandestine operations meant to keep Russia from ever competing with the U.S. as a world super-power.
Several agencies were collecting and compiling evidence on Project Hammer up until 9/11. This included the Office of Naval Intelligence (ONI), which was moved to the outer E ring of the recently renovated section of the pentagon that was hit on 9/11.
DIA E.P. Heidner of ONI said they had been investigating the crimes associated with the plundering of Russia. 39 out of the 40 people who worked in those offices were killed on 9/11, including ONI's entire chain of command.
Many passengers on Flight 77 held 'top secret clearances' and were connected with Pentagon black operations.
Agents of ONI were also investigating financial transactions linked to securities being managed by those security dealers in the world trade center that were also targeted.
31% of the 125 fatalies in the Pentagon were from the Naval Commander Center that housed the Office of Naval Intelligence.
41% of the fatalities in the Twin Towers came two companies that managed U.S. government securities: Cantor Fitzgerald and Eurobrokers.
There were three major securities brokers in the World Trade Center: Cantor Fitzgerald, Eurobrokers, and Garbon Inter Capital. Cantor Fitzgerald was the largest securities dealer in the U.S.
Fire and explosions reported in the World Trade Center: under the FBI offices in the North Tower on the 23rd floor, fires on the 22nd floor at 8:47, explosions and fires reported at Garbon Inter Capital on the 25th floor and basement of Tower 1. Shortly after, at 9:03, Flight 175 hit the South Tower- directly beneath the floors in which Euro Brokers was situated. In all these cases, the explosive, fire destruction consumed the offices in the several floors above, destroying files and trapping victims.
EDIT: had to stop to go shopping
continuing
Building 6 was destroyed by an explosion that took place before either tower fell. This secondary explosion took out a portion of the building which just happened to include the El Dorado Task Force's offices.
The El Dorado Task Force was an inter-agency money laundering watchdog group responsible for coordinating all major money-laundering investigations in the U.S. In the immediate aftermath of September 11th, these groups would be redirected to investigate terrorist financing.
FEMA photographer and 9/11 whistleblower Kurt Sonnenfield testified to entering the U.S. Customs Vault in the basement of WTC 6, which was found completely empty and left with the door wide open. All of its contents appear to have been looted during the attacks. There is also evidence that gold was being looted from the vaults beneath WTC 4- there were several early reports of a 10-wheel truck packed with stolen bullion, caught fleeing WTC 5 when the vehicle had become stuck on a collapsed ceiling brace, forcing the driver to flee the scene.
Fireproofing "upgrades" on the exact floors coinceding with failure and impact in the towers. Suspicious power-downs and evcuation drills.
perma-link
Going specifically with all the LIHOP evidence is the best door opener for any new person.
ever forget that the victims families asked questions and demanded answers, but all they got were lies and cold shoulders.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nzRmb3Z-E0A
Never forget that Christy Todd Whitman head of the EPA knowingly lied about the safety of the air at ground zero and premeditatedly murdered the first responders.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qC3YlKERdg8
Never forget all the 9/11 whistle blowers who died mysteriously.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bvay28lZiHU
Never forget PDD W199i where the Bush Administration threatened prosecution of any FBI agent by the DoJ for investigating the Bin Laden family or the active cells.
http://www.prisonplanet.com/911.html#w199i
Never forget the FBI admitted they had "No Hard Evidence" Connecting Bin Laden to 9/11.
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article13664.htm
Never forget that alleged hijackers were still alive
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/1559151.stm
Never forget all the National security whistle blowers trying to wake all the sleep walking sheep in total denial of reality that there were in fact whistle blowers on 9/11, a lot of them.
http://www.nswbc.org/Press%20Releases/NSWBC-911Comm.htm
Never forget that 7 out of 10 of the 9/11 commissioners don't even buy the story of their own commission
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Atju9lOAtn8
Never forget who created Al Qaeda
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dqn0bm4E9yw
Never forget all these professionals, victims and insiders who question the official fairytale of 9/11 many of which are also whistle blowers. Including: 220+ Senior Military, Intelligence Service, Law Enforcement, and Government Officials 2000+ Engineers and Architects 250+ Pilots and Aviation Professionals 400+ Professors Question 9/11 300+ 9/11 Survivors and Family Members 200+ Artists, Entertainers, and Media Professionals 400+ Medical Professionals
http://patriotsquestion911.com/
Never forget that NORAD stood down
http://georgewashington.blogspot.com/2008/03/norad-stand-down-in-2-minutes.html
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Every time this thread comes up it disappoints me.
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-------------------------------------------------------THE AIRPORTS
19 alleged terrorists (to be referred just as terrorists from now on) were able to avoid hundreds of airport CCTVs, except 3. Of those 3, one of the recordings (which will be named Dulles from now on) that was only released in 2004 poses a serious problem:
At least until the date of the 9/11, all of the CCTVs available (including the Pentagons') only recorded at 1-5FPS and had timestamps while the Dulles was recording at +12FPS(if I am not mistaken) and has no timestamp.
The airports, which the terrorists used, have hundreds of CCTVs that cover the entrances and all of the public areas, yet only 1 camera from 2 airports (Dulles and Portland, Maine) were able to capture 6 of the 19 terrorists. The airplane victims were also never captured by the airport CCTVs. In contrast, here is the constant tracking via CCTV of the navy yard shooting using all the CCTVs that captured the shooter outside and inside the building. Somehow the Logan airport failed to record a single victim and/or terrorist.
--------------------------------------------------------THE HIJACKS
Every pilot and co-pilot is instructed with transponder squawk codes, one of them -7500- is the code for hijacking and it takes 3s to input and send. Despite having 4 pilots and 4 co-pilots, not one of them sent out the 3s squawk as they were instructed to. The alleged Flight11's FDR shows that the airplane was too high to have struck the lamp posts. Todd Beamer, one of Flight93's passenger, described the hijack occuring as he was speaking (at 9:43 AM) when in fact this event had already happened ~20 minutes earlier.
--------------------------------------------------------THE CRASHES
-------------------------THE PENTAGON-------------------------------
Only 2 cameras recorded an object crashing into the Pentagon, one recorded only a flash. The 2 cameras that recorded the object show a white smoke coming from the object that the Flight77 could not have produced:
Engine damage from lamp-posts impact: Not possible, airplane engine smoke produces a thin and dark smoke
Fuel leaking from tank damage or engine damage: Not possible, it didn't catch fire when the airplane exploded, the lawn has no jetfuel burn marks.
Contrails: Not possible seen that the humidity levels were not enough, corroborated by the lack of those on both airplanes that crashed into the twin towers
Condensation: Not possible, same reason as contrails
Rocket/missile-like smoke: Strongly resembles the smoke produced by missiles/rockets and might explain why Pentagon personnel stated that they noticed the smell of cordite
These 2 cameras have all frames perfectly synchronized -including the moment of the high speed explosion- except the one where the object enters the frame. According to the cameras, the airplane existed in 2 different places in the same moment of time.
-------------------------THE PENNSYLVANIA---------------------------
Despite the entire airplane allegedly plunged into the ground, one of the engines jumped to a considerable distance from the crash site. This engine was attached to the same airplane as the other one, diving at the same speed as the other one and hitting the same ground as the other one, yet one of the engines was buried and the other landed far away for no reason.
The engine that was buried under the ground was compressed along it's length under ~3 and half feet of dirt. This engine had a clam shell of considerable proportions, but for some reason not one part of that shell is present in the previously linked photo of the engine.
There were debris found at such a distance from the impact point of the airplane that it could not have been covered from its explosion, this path of debris suggests that the airplane was actually flying on the opposite direction and not the one officially told. This also fits Val MacClatchey's testimony of the plane path.
Val MacClatchey's famous photo poses a serious problem, it displays a mushroom cloud that is consistent with an explosion and not with a jet crash. When an airplane crashes it produces a long column of smoke, not just a mushroom cloud. The lack of typical airplane crash aftermath smoke has also been confirmed by another witness.
In contrast with Flight 93, here is an airplane crash of a Boeing 737-200 of 17,November 2013 that nose dived in 70º and still had plenty of easily identifiable airplane parts and both engines were found in the same location.
Here you can see more airplane crashes comparisons with Flight 93 and see how unique Flight 93 was. http://killtown.911review.org/flight93/crash-comparisons.html
----------------------------------------------------------THE CALLS
There are 2 calls that contradict the offical version of events; the before mentioned Todd Beamer call and Jeremy Glick's.
Todd Beamer:
Flight 93 hijack occured at 9:28
Todd Beamer's call describes the hijack about to happen at 9:43
Flight 93 crashed at 10:03
Todd Beamer's call made with an airphone last for 3925 seconds. It last 45 minutes after the plane had already crashed.
Lisa Jefferson also confirms that the call was not lost: "We didn’t lose a connection because there’s a different sound that you use. It’s a squealing sound when you lose a connection. I never lost connection, but it just went silent."
Jeremy Glick:
Call starts at 9:37
Flight 93 crashes at 10:03
Call lasts for 7565 seconds, placing the end of the call at 11:41. It last for 1 hour and ~38 minutes after the plane had already crashed.
These calls were made from the airplane's airphone destined to two different interfaces: One was to the GTE's assistant landline telephone, the other was to a cellphone.
These calls could not have remained connected by a system mistake because airphones charge per time, the system was built to only count the time the client is connected in order to avoid overcharging him by allowing calls to "stay connected" when they were not. The fact that they also disconnected at different times rules out any possible system fault which, if possible, would at best disconnect both calls at the same time since they would have "disconnected" at the same time, the time of the crash.
The ACARS data also corroborates the above, seen that the only possible explanation for the calls to remain connected after the airplane crashed is that the airplane from where the calls came from never crashed in the first place.
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The section above the airplane impact zone tilted and then fell vertically, violating Newton's First Law of Motion in which a body in motion (rotation in this case) tends to stay in motion unless acted on by an outside force. In this case this was the expected movement of the top if it was simply collapsing.
Despite the fact that the top section tilted and was only ~30%(33floors) of the building it was still capable of destroying the remaining ~69%(76 floors) completely, directly violating Newton's third law.
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A problem with this collapse is that despite the fact that the top section fell vertically and almost symetrically, it can be clearly identified a concentrated destruction almost as fast as the debris fall occuring on the right face of the building.
Sharing the exact same result as the South Tower, the North tower also violates Newton's third law by an even larger margin. The top section was only 15.45%(17 floors) destroying the intact 93% 83% (92 floors).
According to NIST, WTC1 fell only 28% longer than pure free-fall:
"The upper section of the building then collapsed onto the floors below, within 12s, the collapse of WTC 1 had left nothing but rubble."
NIST file NCSTAR1 section 2.9
If it was free fall it would have been 9.32s without air resistance, meaning that -according to NIST- all floors provided a resistance that add up to 2.77s (12s - 9.32s).
Below the collapse area there were 95 floors.
2.77s / 95 floors = each floor being destroyed in 0.029s
29/1000ths of a second.
According to NIST, each floor -composed by concrete and steel- was being destroyed as fast as the impact between a stick and a cue ball.
Despite the top being only ~16% of the building (weaker and lighter), the result was still a perfect vertical gravity assisted downfall destruction of the remaining 93% 83% perfectly intact structure (stronger as well) defying yet again another law of physics -Newton's third law- in which a smaller and weaker body cannot destroy a bigger and stronger body.
For example: for every floor of the 93% 83% destroyed another floor of the 16% has to be destroyed. If Newton's third law had been respected, the building would be standing with ~75 floors, not 0. A better explanation of the laws of physics violation: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DPwwcXF_V0c&t=2329
CONTD IN COMMENTS
Edit: after 8 hours, there are only two comments that question anything I've posted. Let's see what the 'debunkers' had to say:
A. Someone likened WTC1 and WTC2's controlled demolition to dominoes toppling over. I don't need to address this claim, as it is without merit.
B. Another person tried to prove that visual pictures of WTC7 having small, local office fires was false according to verbal testimony. Yet, with hundreds of cameras/camcorders pointing at the aftermath of that day (remember, WTC7 spent 7 extra hours being photographed before it was demolished), the poster can't provide one picture of their verbal proof.
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Sorry :(
It's all very interesting Judge, I'm just always hoping for a different kind of bush.
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Sorry :(
It's all very interesting Judge, I'm just always hoping for a different kind of bush.
A great man one told me something along the lines of
"There are not too many things in this world I feel very strongly about. However, one of those things is newtons laws of motion" ...
Dickens, Great Expectations: “Take nothing on its looks; take everything on evidence. There's no better rule."
*edit, I misread your post. Your wanna see punjami pictures . Carry on my friend
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Sorry :(
It's all very interesting Judge, I'm just always hoping for a different kind of bush.
A great man one told me something along the lines of
"There are not too many things in this world I feel very strongly about. However, one of those things is newtons laws of motion" ...
Dickens, Great Expectations: “Take nothing on its looks; take everything on evidence. There's no better rule."
*edit, I misread your post. Your wanna see punjami pictures . Carry on my friend
You crack me up sometimes Bents
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:lol
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http://investmentwatchblog.com/911-firefighter-blows-wtc-7-cover-up-wide-open/
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you stilll going on about this mate.
infowars, illumanati, dollar signs this that
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you stilll going on about this mate.
infowars, illumanati, dollar signs this that
Boy, I love talking about the Kennedy assassination, man. That’s my favourite topic. You know why? Because to me it’s a great example of, er, a totalitarian government’s ability to, you know, manage information and thus keep us in the dark any way they … Oh, sorry. Wrong meeting … Ah [beep]. That’s the meeting we’re having tomorrow at the docks.
I love talking about Kennedy. I was just down in Dallas, Texas. You know you can go down there and, ah, to Dealey Plaza where Kennedy was assassinated. And you can actually go to the sixth floor of the School Book Depository. It’s a museum called … The Assassination Museum. I think they named that after the assassination. I can’t be too sure of the chronology here, but …
Anyway they have the window set up to look exactly like it did on that day. And it’s really accurate, you know. ’Cause Oswald’s not in it.
Yeah, yeah, so wow, that’s cool. Painstaking accuracy, you know. It’s true. It’s called the ‘Sniper’s Nest’. It’s glassed in, it’s got the boxes sitting there.
You can’t actually get to the window as such but the reason they did that, of course, they didn’t want thousands of American tourists getting there each year going [Mimes looking out of window] “No [beep]ing way! I can’t even see the road. [beep], they’re lying to us. [beep]! Where are they? There’s no [beep]ing way!”
Not unless Oswald was hanging by his toes, upside down from the ledge. Either that or some pigeons grabbed onto him, flew him over the motorcade … Surely someone would have seen that. You know, there was rumours of anti–Castro pigeons seen drinking in bars … Someone overhead them saying: “coup, coup, coup.”
Unbelievable. And you know what’s wild? People’s, er, attitudes in the States about it. Talking about Kennedy, people come up to me: “Bill, quit talking about Kennedy, man. Let it go. It’s a long time ago, just forget about it.” And I’m like, alright, then don’t bring up Geez to me. As long as we’re talking shelf life here. “Bill, you know Geez died for you.” Yeah, well, it was a long time ago. Forget about it! How about this. Get Pilate to release the [beep]ing files. Quit washing your hands, Pilate. Release the goddam files. Who else was on that grassy Golgotha that day? “Bill, it was just, you know, huh, taking over of democracy by a totalitarian government, let it go.”
Rip bill hicks
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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=P3jgJPAf2FE
9/11 BBC news footage showing the reporting of building 7 as "having collapsed", despite it not collapsing for 20 more minutes AND building 7 is still visible in the background during the broadcast.
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Why do I keep clicking on this thread?? :banghead
It's like walking into the local Pub hoping to see a rockin new house band in action but still ending up with the same old 1/3 of the Little River Band's original lineup belting out "Help is on its way".
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:lol :lol
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Why do I keep clicking on this thread?? :banghead
It's like walking into the local Pub hoping to see a rockin new house band in action but still ending up with the same old 1/3 of the Little River Band's original lineup belting out "Help is on its way".
:lol
Thanks tiga, you've just reminded me why I click on this thread
"Hang on, help is on it's way"
"I'll be there as fast as I can"
:dancing :dancing
Yeah!!!!!!!!
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So none of you sheep
Think its unusual
The BBCwould report the ccollapse of a building
20 mins before it fell
With it behind the reporters shoulder?
The first and only skyscraper in history to fall due to fire... - cause steel does nae burn
CNN did the same. Coincidence
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So none of you sheep
Think its unusual
The BBCwould report the ccollapse of a building
20 mins before it fell
With it behind the reporters shoulder?
The first and only skyscraper in history to fall due to fire... - cause steel does nae burn
CNN did the same. Coincidence
Why do you use 14 lines to write two sentences? Do you write movie credits for a living or something?
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So none of you sheep
Think its unusual
The BBCwould report the ccollapse of a building
20 mins before it fell
With it behind the reporters shoulder?
The first and only skyscraper in history to fall due to fire... - cause steel does nae burn
CNN did the same. Coincidence
Why do you use 14 lines to write two sentences? Do you write movie credits for a living or something?
hehe funny tiga
Judge why do you GAF. I would care more about them assisting us in capturing those fruitloops who want to bomb our country.
At the end of the day i know whose side i want to be. Team america all the way pal
FEA