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Title: Tigers vs Swans
Post by: mightytiges on May 26, 2008, 05:04:08 AM
Tigers clear first hurdle, set sights on Swans
Rebecca Williams | May 26, 2008

RICHMOND forward Nathan Brown says the Tigers must start winning against teams in the top eight if they are to prove they are turning the corner.

The Tigers' 38-point win against Essendon on Saturday night was their third of the season - already equalling their season tally from last year.

Despite a third-quarter lapse that allowed the Bombers to cut a 50-point halftime deficit in half, Brown said he was encouraged by the signs the Tigers were showing.

"Our tackle pressure and our intensity around the footy has been terrific. We are the No. 1 hardball and contested football side in the competition at the moment," Brown said.

"Our pressure and our contested football are the two things that probably got us playing good football.

"We were playing good without winning games. It's good to have good form, but if it goes too long, you don't get the thrill of winning, and you need to still learn how to win.

"But now we have got to start beating sides above us. We have to start beating sides that are in the eight if we want to make the eight."

Brown's comments echoed those post-match of coach Terry Wallace, who said his group was showing signs of maturity, but the team needed to take the next step.

"Guys like Shane Edwards and Trent Cotchin getting their hands on the ball, Matty White - that's the nucleus of the future of the footy club, and that looked pretty good," Wallace said.

"The next thing is to be able to do it for four quarters, and the other factor is doing it against the better sides in the competition."

The Tigers will have the chance to test themselves next Sunday when they meet Sydney at the SCG.

"We played them in the pre-season, and as far as respect goes, you could not have any more respect for a club than Sydney. It will be a great challenge for us," Brown said.

For his own part, Brown showed signs of returning to his pre-broken leg form with three goals and 23 disposals, although his inaccuracy (four behinds) let him down.

But he is enjoying feeling fit and injury-free for the first time in three years.

"I started the year slow with the first couple of weeks, but since then it's been pretty good," Brown said.

"I was a bit crook last week and didn't do much, but it was good to play some good football (on Saturday night).

"I missed a few goals which I probably should have kicked, but you've got to take the good with the bad.

"Certainly it's a great feeling to feel injury-free. This year I feel fit for the first time in three years, so it's exciting."

Nathan Foley is another Tiger clearly enjoying his hot streak.

Foley again starred for the Tigers, earning best-on-ground honours in the Dreamtime at the 'G clash for his 32-possession game.

"It was a great honour, especially in this tribute match," Foley said.

"It's really starting to build with great crowds. So it was great to win and I'm just enjoying getting a few kicks."

http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/sport/afl/story/0,26576,23755438-19742,00.html
Title: Re: Tigers clear first hurdle, set sights on Swans (Herald-Sun)
Post by: tigersalive on May 26, 2008, 11:16:30 AM
"So it was great to win and I'm just enjoying getting a few kicks."

The kid is a star, feet firmly on the ground.  :clapping
Title: Re: Tigers clear first hurdle, set sights on Swans (Herald-Sun)
Post by: mightytiges on May 26, 2008, 03:46:14 PM
Our 3 wins have been against bottom 8 sides (how we lost that game to the Saints  :scream). A step up now over the next 2 weeks playing two top 8 sides and another chance to see where we are at. So far North and the Pies rolled us easily, the off-target Hawks were pushed and we drew with the Dogs.
Title: The Swans are our real test: Wallace
Post by: one-eyed on May 27, 2008, 04:20:23 PM
The Swans are our real test: Wallace
abc.net.au & Sportal

Richmond coach Terry Wallace says his team's upcoming clash with the Sydney Swans will prove whether they are finals contenders.

The Tigers defeated the Bombers in the last round, however despite good performances they are yet to come away with a win against a top side.

Wallace says the upcoming game is a real gauge on his side.

"If you're going to improve and get yourself up into the position where you want to be vying for the eight, you want to be testing yourself out against those sides," he said.

"So you know what is stacking up for you, and what is not, as a footy team."

The Tigers' recent record against Sydney - they have lost their past four since a one-point win at the MCG in 2005 - might be poor but Wallace is buoyed ahead of Sunday's trip by the club's recent record on the road.

Not only have the Tigers already thrashed Fremantle in Perth in their only previous interstate home and away game this season but they also beat Melbourne in Cairns and Sydney in Narrandera during the pre-season.

"They don't mean anything but we have played well when we have travelled over the season so far and I think our (playing) group quite enjoys getting away together and spending a bit of time together," Wallace said.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2008/05/27/2257140.htm
http://sportal.com.au/afl-news-display/richo-ready-to-roam-free-again-49221
Title: Re: Tigers vs Swans
Post by: one-eyed on May 30, 2008, 04:08:14 AM
TAB Sportsbet Betting Odds

Head to Head

Sydney       $1.18 
Richmond    $4.50 

Line

Sydney     -27.5 Pts    $1.97 
Richmond +27.5 Pts    $1.83 

Margin

Richmond Under 39.5 Pts     $ 5.25 
Richmond Over 39.5 Pts       $18.00 

Sydney Under 39.5 Pts        $2.15 
Sydney Over 39.5 Pts          $2.40 

Draw  $51.00 
Title: Re: Tigers vs Swans
Post by: Tigermonk on May 30, 2008, 11:21:48 AM
This game will give us a insight how we are going as a team & how good Wallace can coach with several game plans he will need.
Forget about practice matches of past pre season, the Swans will be out there to bury us Sunday in a big 1st quarter l predict
l dont expect the guys to win this game but l hope they give it a real red hot go again
l class the Swans as a very well drilled side who can pound the goals early to create a lead & then close the game down perfectly to stop attacking sides or vice versa.
A win would be great for the club & the playing group if we can bring this game home moral will lift :gotigers
hope our supporters can showup & give them a roar of courage  :thumbsup
Title: Re: The Swans are our real test: Wallace
Post by: 1965 on May 30, 2008, 02:04:19 PM
The Swans are our real test: Wallace
abc.net.au & Sportal

Richmond coach Terry Wallace says his team's upcoming clash with the Sydney Swans will prove whether they are finals contenders.

The Tigers defeated the Bombers in the last round, however despite good performances they are yet to come away with a win against a top side.

Wallace says the upcoming game is a real gauge on his side.

"If you're going to improve and get yourself up into the position where you want to be vying for the eight, you want to be testing yourself out against those sides," he said.

"So you know what is stacking up for you, and what is not, as a footy team."

The Tigers' recent record against Sydney - they have lost their past four since a one-point win at the MCG in 2005 - might be poor but Wallace is buoyed ahead of Sunday's trip by the club's recent record on the road.

Not only have the Tigers already thrashed Fremantle in Perth in their only previous interstate home and away game this season but they also beat Melbourne in Cairns and Sydney in Narrandera during the pre-season.

"They don't mean anything but we have played well when we have travelled over the season so far and I think our (playing) group quite enjoys getting away together and spending a bit of time together," Wallace said.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2008/05/27/2257140.htm
http://sportal.com.au/afl-news-display/richo-ready-to-roam-free-again-49221

Sounds like the crunch game.

 :gotigers
Title: Re: Tigers vs Swans
Post by: mightytiges on May 30, 2008, 04:51:20 PM
This game will give us a insight how we are going as a team & how good Wallace can coach with several game plans he will need.
Forget about practice matches of past pre season, the Swans will be out there to bury us Sunday in a big 1st quarter l predict
l dont expect the guys to win this game but l hope they give it a real red hot go again
l class the Swans as a very well drilled side who can pound the goals early to create a lead & then close the game down perfectly to stop attacking sides or vice versa.
A win would be great for the club & the playing group if we can bring this game home moral will lift :gotigers
hope our supporters can showup & give them a roar of courage  :thumbsup
Agree with all that TM.

Last year with an obviously poorer side struggling we overpossessed the footy up there. You can't do that at the SCG and there's no need to. Apply the K.I.S.S. principle and go direct down the corridor. Also with the forward line we have named with Bowden, Petts plus Richo, Lids and even Newy pushing forward hopefully we can kick some long goals  from outside "50" to break open the shutdown style of the Swans.

No Bazza Hall is also bonus as he's been too big a gorilla for our young backline in the last few meetings.
Title: Re: Tigers vs Swans
Post by: Mopsy on May 30, 2008, 05:03:33 PM
The ground is longer now after the renovations
Title: Re: Tigers vs Swans
Post by: mightytiges on May 30, 2008, 05:34:00 PM
The ground is longer now after the renovations
It's still shorter than other grounds and the new stands aren't (doh :-[) finished.

SCG: 149 metres x 136 metres
MCG: 160 metres x 141 metres
Dome: 159.5 metres x 128.8 metres
ANZ:  160 metres x 118 metres
AAMI: 165 metres x 133 metres
Subi:  175.6 metres x 122.4 metres

http://www.afl.com.au/Season2007/Tickets/tabid/82/Default.aspx
Title: Re: Tigers vs Swans
Post by: WilliamPowell on May 30, 2008, 06:38:29 PM
I'll measure it on the weekend  :rollin

Actually all the stands aren't finished yet end of the year I think
Title: Re: Tigers vs Swans
Post by: Tigermonk on May 30, 2008, 07:20:03 PM
This game will give us a insight how we are going as a team & how good Wallace can coach with several game plans he will need.
Forget about practice matches of past pre season, the Swans will be out there to bury us Sunday in a big 1st quarter l predict
l dont expect the guys to win this game but l hope they give it a real red hot go again
l class the Swans as a very well drilled side who can pound the goals early to create a lead & then close the game down perfectly to stop attacking sides or vice versa.
A win would be great for the club & the playing group if we can bring this game home moral will lift :gotigers
hope our supporters can showup & give them a roar of courage  :thumbsup
Agree with all that TM.

Last year with an obviously poorer side struggling we overpossessed the footy up there. You can't do that at the SCG and there's no need to. Apply the K.I.S.S. principle and go direct down the corridor. Also with the forward line we have named with Bowden, Petts plus Richo, Lids and even Newy pushing forward hopefully we can kick some long goals  from outside "50" to break open the shutdown style of the Swans.

No Bazza Hall is also bonus as he's been too big a gorilla for our young backline in the last few meetings.

maybe we have Newman sitting in the centre all day kicking long goals  :lol l mean those bombs he gets off are great to watch
Title: Re: Tigers vs Swans
Post by: mightytiges on May 30, 2008, 10:58:19 PM
maybe we have Newman sitting in the centre all day kicking long goals  :lol l mean those bombs he gets off are great to watch
Not as silly as it seems. Newy keeps them fairly straight too.
Title: Re: Tigers vs Swans
Post by: Muscles on May 31, 2008, 01:28:29 PM
I think the SCG is longer that 149 metres since the renovations have been finished.  The 50 metre arcs don't touch the centre square any more (if they really are 50 metres).  There is a gap of about 3 metres between the centre square and the 50 metre arc, so I would guess that between the goal lines, the ground would have to be about 156 metres long.
Title: Re: Tigers vs Swans
Post by: 1965 on May 31, 2008, 02:29:54 PM

The SCG site has the "Radius of goal arc" as 45m (what the?) and the centre square at 50m with the "distance from goal line to goal line" as 149m.

Which would put 2m between the square and each 45m arc.

 ???

http://www.scgt.nsw.gov.au/SCG-Field.html

Title: Re: Tigers vs Swans
Post by: mightytiges on May 31, 2008, 03:08:43 PM

The SCG site has the "Radius of goal arc" as 45m (what the?) and the centre square at 50m with the "distance from goal line to goal line" as 149m.

Which would put 2m between the square and each 45m arc.

 ???

http://www.scgt.nsw.gov.au/SCG-Field.html
Yep it's a little toy ground. Go the torp Newy!  :gotigers
Title: Re: Tigers vs Swans
Post by: one-eyed on June 01, 2008, 01:09:01 PM
Overcast day in Sydney. Light drizzle expected throughout the day.

We haven't scored more than 72 points in the past 4 games at the SCG.



Title: Re: Tigers vs Swans
Post by: mightytiges on June 01, 2008, 01:11:51 PM
Hyde tagging Goodes.
Richo has Roberts-Thompson on him.
Browny has Bolton on him.

Rushed behind to Swans after a dodgy Richo moment. 0 - 1.
Title: Re: Tigers vs Swans
Post by: mightytiges on June 01, 2008, 01:21:31 PM
King on Buchanan who has a goal from a free.
Tuck vs Kirk.

It would be nice if we could hit a target  :P.

Swans getting the frees 5 - 1. Umps not paying us frees  :banghead.

We've had it in our forward line but can't score.

Another rushed behind to the Swans. First score in about 10 minutes.

0 - 8
Title: Re: Tigers vs Swans
Post by: mightytiges on June 01, 2008, 01:24:08 PM
Inside 50s: 6 - 8
Possies fairly even.

Skill errors by Patto and Hyde result on a Swans goal.

0 - 14

Understatement of the year we need a score  :help
Title: Re: Tigers vs Swans
Post by: mightytiges on June 01, 2008, 01:27:33 PM
Our kicking errors are killing us. Going at a pathetic 54%. Swans are killing us.

0 - 20

Title: Re: Tigers vs Swans
Post by: mightytiges on June 01, 2008, 01:32:08 PM
Welcome back reality  :help. This could end up a 150 point flogging  :help.

0 - 39

Hyde and Tuck are showing why they aren't up to it. Forget the tags and go with Lids, Blingers and Foley.
Title: Re: Tigers vs Swans
Post by: richmondrules on June 01, 2008, 01:36:43 PM
It's going to be a loooooooooong day.
Title: Re: Tigers vs Swans
Post by: mightytiges on June 01, 2008, 01:37:19 PM
We've final scored. Point.

1 - 39

Title: Re: Tigers vs Swans
Post by: richmondrules on June 01, 2008, 01:39:03 PM
lol. The flood gates open!!!
Title: Re: Tigers vs Swans
Post by: Ox on June 01, 2008, 01:39:38 PM
We're back to Whack.
Title: Re: Tigers vs Swans
Post by: mightytiges on June 01, 2008, 01:40:11 PM
Richo set shot from 15m out. Hits the post  :scream. Welcome back 5 years ago!

2 - 40
Title: Re: Tigers vs Swans
Post by: mightytiges on June 01, 2008, 01:45:35 PM
Tiges are now $11. That's not enough  :-\.

QT:

Rich   0.2-2
Syd   6.4-40

Geez that was as bad as the Geelong game last year. No pressure, shocking skills. A complete rabble. 15 clangers to just 5. 8 inside 50s to 16.

Meaningless stats:
Lids         8
Newman  7
Sugar, Richo, Schulz 6
Bowden, Foley, Petts 5

Terry's had a shocker too. We went negative at the start with Hyde and Tuck in the centre with their dud kicking skills and have paid duely for it. Swans are happy to allow Richo to run around in defence.
Title: Re: Tigers vs Swans
Post by: Ox on June 01, 2008, 01:46:58 PM
0 centre clearances...
Title: Re: Tigers vs Swans
Post by: mightytiges on June 01, 2008, 01:54:18 PM
Yep Ox that's why we're going wide and indirect. Suicide on the SCG. We've had more of the ball but turned it over half the time.

So much for bringing back "senior" players. Old habits die hard  ::).

2 - 47
Title: Re: Tigers vs Swans
Post by: Moi on June 01, 2008, 01:59:06 PM
Drop Bowden
Laughing as he gave away that free.  He couldn't give a poo  :banghead

Down the other end Swans get another mystifying free and goal  :banghead
Title: Re: Tigers vs Swans
Post by: mightytiges on June 01, 2008, 02:01:20 PM
LOL Hyde on Goodes. Players diametrically opposite in footy brains and skills  :P

Yep Moi the only ones as crap as us today are the umps ::). Sheesh the Swans don't need any more help  :P.

2 - 66




Title: Re: Tigers vs Swans
Post by: Ox on June 01, 2008, 02:02:33 PM
Drop Bowden
Laughing as he gave away that free.  He couldn't give a pooh  :banghead

Down the other end Swans get another mystifying free and goal  :banghead

sack him insted :clapping
Title: Re: Tigers vs Swans
Post by: Moi on June 01, 2008, 02:05:25 PM
Yep Moi the only ones as crap as us today are the umps ::). Sheesh the Swans don't need any more help  :P.
I wasn't blaming the umps for our performance
Title: Re: Tigers vs Swans
Post by: mightytiges on June 01, 2008, 02:07:35 PM
We'd be better off just bombing it long down the guts with the crap kicking and zero pressure we are dishing up.

I can see a certain someone beginning with the letter J returning to the site tonight.



Title: Re: Tigers vs Swans
Post by: mightytiges on June 01, 2008, 02:08:25 PM
hoooooooraaaaaaaaaaaaayyy!

Cotch goals
Title: Re: Tigers vs Swans
Post by: richmondrules on June 01, 2008, 02:12:03 PM
Best to leave it to the 3rd game débutante.
Title: Re: Tigers vs Swans
Post by: Ox on June 01, 2008, 02:13:09 PM
Is it just coincidence that when bowden and petifile return we
play a brand of football that more often than not,is representative of
s hit
Title: Re: Tigers vs Swans
Post by: 1965 on June 01, 2008, 02:13:36 PM
How long before Jackstar reappears and calls for TW's head.

 :thumbsup
Title: Re: Tigers vs Swans
Post by: mightytiges on June 01, 2008, 02:14:14 PM
I wasn't blaming the umps for our performance
I know that. I was just saying they've been almost as crap as us with some of the decisions. When it's a disaster like this nothing goes right and everything seems against you.

How good are the Swans skills. As superb as ours is pathetic.
Title: Re: Tigers vs Swans
Post by: richmondrules on June 01, 2008, 02:16:38 PM
Is it just coincidence that when bowden and petifile return we
play a brand of football that more often than not,is representative of
s hit

I was thinking that myself. Just when we get a bit of spirit in the team ... Where's Morton? Where's McGuane?
Title: Re: Tigers vs Swans
Post by: mightytiges on June 01, 2008, 02:21:51 PM
Is it just coincidence that when bowden and petifile return we
play a brand of football that more often than not,is representative of
s hit
A lot will be asking the same question. Bowden one of the ones with less than 50% kicking eff. Mind you that doesn't excuse everyone else. Browny, Richo, Foley, Edwards, Riewoldt, Tuck, Hyde, Patto also  with less than 50%. You'd reckon Hyde has played his last game in the seniors.

It's days like this tanking for the rest of the year seems a sensible option  :P.


Rich  0.2    1.6-12
Syd   6.4   13.7-85
Title: Re: Tigers vs Swans
Post by: Ox on June 01, 2008, 02:24:57 PM
Is it just coincidence that when bowden and petifile return we
play a brand of football that more often than not,is representative of
s hit

I was thinking that myself. Just when we get a bit of spirit in the team ... Where's Morton? Where's McGuane?

Yeh,exactly.

Nothing like leadership !

Good ol' Sigfried and Roy up to their old tricks
Title: Re: Tigers vs Swans
Post by: Tigermonk on June 01, 2008, 02:28:52 PM
Well l walked away from that game & refuse to watch that pathetic bunch who play backwards, sideways, overuse football
but my main reason for not watching anymore is the matchup of Hyde vs Goodes

Sack Terry Wallace right now his a effin goose  :rollin fair dinkum thats is the worst decision l have ever seen in football history

a duel brownlow medalist on Hyde who is half his size in bodyweight, Goodes just pushes him off & sprints away  :rollin what a matchup & poor Shutlz is on the bench  :lol :lol l thought he started off very well

where are all our effin star onballers today the whole side is pathetic its embarrassing no contest gutless toothless tigers l knew it wouldnot be long before we went back to pooh




Title: Re: Tigers vs Swans
Post by: mightytiges on June 01, 2008, 02:30:21 PM
Is it just coincidence that when bowden and petifile return we
play a brand of football that more often than not,is representative of
s hit

I was thinking that myself. Just when we get a bit of spirit in the team ... Where's Morton? Where's McGuane?
Yep we're not going to make the finals (laughing at that given the score). Play the future of the club, the cubs, and get games into them. In saying that it's our midfield that is getting absolutely smashed.

I feel sorry for those that travelled up to Sydney to watch this drivel.

ROLLIN at the supporter on SEN saying he wants Tim Fleming back  :rollin. Like we need another player who can't kick  :help.
Title: Re: Tigers vs Swans
Post by: Darth Tiger on June 01, 2008, 02:37:28 PM
Ouch - turnover football like in under 12's
Title: Re: Tigers vs Swans
Post by: mightytiges on June 01, 2008, 02:38:40 PM
Richo, Browny, Bowden and Petts in the forward line this quarter. Hello defensive pressure lol.
Title: Re: Tigers vs Swans
Post by: mightytiges on June 01, 2008, 02:40:29 PM
Sugar off with some sort of knee injury. Hobbled off the ground.
Title: Re: Tigers vs Swans
Post by: TFL on June 01, 2008, 02:42:46 PM
Our forwards continue to play behind and are a disgrace.

No game plan either.
Title: Re: Tigers vs Swans
Post by: mightytiges on June 01, 2008, 02:44:58 PM
The Swans have had almost 4 times the hitouts  :help. Guess which side needs a quality tap ruckman or two.

Petts OOTF  ::)

Sugar's gone down into the rooms with a left knee injury.
Title: Re: Tigers vs Swans
Post by: mightytiges on June 01, 2008, 02:49:57 PM
At least we've kicked a couple of goals. We're winning the quarter  :lol.
Title: Re: Tigers vs Swans
Post by: Ramps on June 01, 2008, 02:53:45 PM
As I said weeks ago, the cheap wins we had will kill our future. People called for a winning culture. I have a newsflash, there aint gonna be NO winning culture with the senior blokes we have now on the list. Richmond needed early picks. We are our worst own enemy. Our list at best is only capable of finishing 7th or 8th - and that is if they have luck on the field, no injuries and everything goes our way. We will get stranded again in mid table and then we will come back to the bottom.

Today we have been a total rabble. People should not be angry, or upset. Im just sad that our football club never does what it has to do to succeed. We should have tanked this season and we havent. We will pay the price again  :banghead
Title: Re: Tigers vs Swans
Post by: mightytiges on June 01, 2008, 03:04:43 PM
There's still time to tank but we would need to do a Carlton and lose every game from here. On today's "effort" it wouldn't be too hard  ::).

Moore gets our 3rd for the quarter. Says a lot when a defender has to kick our goals.
Title: Re: Tigers vs Swans
Post by: mightytiges on June 01, 2008, 03:08:52 PM
3/4 Time

Rich    0.2     1.6    4.7-31
Syd     6.4    13.7  16.11-107

Goals: Cotchin, Bowden, Brown, Moore

Lids        24
Newman 19
Bowden   18
Petts       17
Richo      16
Foley, McMahon, Moore, Tambo  14

Guess who will keep their spots next week on cheap meaningless possessions.
Title: Re: Tigers vs Swans
Post by: TFL on June 01, 2008, 03:20:40 PM
How long before Jackstar reappears and calls for TW's head.

 :thumbsup

Maybe he is right........Come on Jack where are you?
Title: Re: Tigers vs Swans
Post by: mightytiges on June 01, 2008, 03:23:36 PM
Luke Darcy loves Cotchin. Said Cotch has intent with his disposals.

Lids gets our 5th. Can we keep this under 100 points. Not with a turnover 25m kick like that Jordie  :help.
Title: Re: Tigers vs Swans
Post by: mightytiges on June 01, 2008, 03:25:18 PM
Axel gets our 6th. Only took until the last quarter to kick a running bouncing goal.
Title: Re: Tigers vs Swans
Post by: Ramps on June 01, 2008, 03:26:11 PM
whats the score lol. i stopped watching at half time.
Title: Re: Tigers vs Swans
Post by: mightytiges on June 01, 2008, 03:29:02 PM
Foley misses. Had a chance to win the second half lol.

Rich  44
Syd  120

Well you asked Ramps lol.
Title: Re: Tigers vs Swans
Post by: mightytiges on June 01, 2008, 03:34:19 PM
When you make duds like Playfair look good you know you suck  :scream.

Imagine if Barry Hall was playing today. He would've kicked 15.
Title: Re: Tigers vs Swans
Post by: Ramps on June 01, 2008, 03:36:03 PM
To be honest, I dont know what our supporters really expected. I dont wanna be a smart arse but what do people expect when Bowden, Pettifer, Hyde, Tuck and about 6 others are still getting games. Mind you, besides Deledio and Cotchin there hasnt been alot to see or hear about today.
Title: Re: Tigers vs Swans
Post by: mightytiges on June 01, 2008, 03:38:07 PM
Lids gets his second. At least he's tried somewhat even if the second half is junk time.

Sarge makes it 2 in a row. 56 - 126. Winning the second half lol.
Title: Re: Tigers vs Swans
Post by: mightytiges on June 01, 2008, 03:46:51 PM
To be honest, I dont know what our supporters really expected. I dont wanna be a smart behind but what do people expect when Bowden, Pettifer, Hyde, Tuck and about 6 others are still getting games. Mind you, besides Deledio and Cotchin there hasnt been alot to see or hear about today.
Like a supporter at training who thought based on the past 5 weeks we'd make the finals easily with the draw "opening up" and said come back to him at the end of the year :whistle.

IMO we'll still finish 12th with about 8 wins if we stay injury-free. A few injuries like Sugar's and the bottom may even fall out against the other bottom sides.

Siren puts us out of our misery. An 82 point annihlation.

Rich   0.2   1.6      4.7      8.9-57
Syd   6.4   13.7  16.11   21.13-139
Title: Re: Tigers vs Swans
Post by: wayne on June 01, 2008, 03:52:20 PM
To be honest, I dont know what our supporters really expected. I dont wanna be a smart behind but what do people expect when Bowden, Pettifer, Hyde, Tuck and about 6 others are still getting games. Mind you, besides Deledio and Cotchin there hasnt been alot to see or hear about today.

Pettifer and Bowden may have been showing form at VFL level, but these guys don't offer us anything in the seniors. Get Morton back in for Pettifer, Polo in, give Connors and Collins a crack and as mentioned in another thread, time to drop McMahon. He's not doing what he was brought in the team to do. ie. hit targets.
Title: Re: Tigers vs Swans
Post by: Ramps on June 01, 2008, 03:53:21 PM
Next week we play Adelaide. It could get pretty grim from here on in.
Title: Re: Tigers vs Swans
Post by: Lozza on June 01, 2008, 04:04:18 PM
During the week i believe mention was made in the media of Richmond using their pace against the Swans. Well on todays effort i think i could outrun most of our list and i am 46. Richmond looked like they were running on ice today, their direct opponents seemed to have balance and heaps of time, probably an indictment of our marking and lack of running into space. No forwards running into space makes it difficult for the midfield when they did manage to gain possession. We consistently get spanked against the Swans so to a large degree you have to question the coaching tactics used against them if in fact there are any, didn't seem to be any evidence of a game plan.
Title: Re: Tigers vs Swans
Post by: 1965 on June 01, 2008, 04:09:32 PM
To be honest, I dont know what our supporters really expected. I dont wanna be a smart behind but what do people expect when Bowden, Pettifer, Hyde, Tuck and about 6 others are still getting games. Mind you, besides Deledio and Cotchin there hasnt been alot to see or hear about today.

Pettifer and Bowden may have been showing form at VFL level, but these guys don't offer us anything in the seniors. Get Morton back in for Pettifer, Polo in, give Connors and Collins a crack and as mentioned in another thread, time to drop McMahon. He's not doing what he was brought in the team to do. ie. hit targets.

Yes, time for change.

Petts, Bowden and Mcmahon all back to the twos.

Play the kids.

 :gotigers
Title: Re: Tigers vs Swans
Post by: Francois Jackson on June 01, 2008, 04:13:10 PM
To be honest, I dont know what our supporters really expected. I dont wanna be a smart behind but what do people expect when Bowden, Pettifer, Hyde, Tuck and about 6 others are still getting games. Mind you, besides Deledio and Cotchin there hasnt been alot to see or hear about today.

Pettifer and Bowden may have been showing form at VFL level, but these guys don't offer us anything in the seniors. Get Morton back in for Pettifer, Polo in, give Connors and Collins a crack and as mentioned in another thread, time to drop McMahon. He's not doing what he was brought in the team to do. ie. hit targets.

Yes, time for change.

Petts, Bowden and Mcmahon all back to the twos.

Play the kids.

 :gotigers

it doesnt matter how poor mcmahon plays he will never get dropped this year.
that will almost certainly tell the football world that TW and miller are out of touch and of course they dont want that.

he is just a number of players who are c grade footballers. patto leads that category.

drop him before u drop anyone else IMO
Title: Re: Tigers vs Swans
Post by: Tigermonk on June 01, 2008, 04:15:24 PM
Terry Wallace cant coach
who teaches that poo they displayed out there
who sets them unrealistic matchups


Goodes vs Hyde get stuffin real this is professional football

Dont blame Bowden he did ok from what l was told
its the coach who instructs this poo, it dont take 4 years to tell players to go long & use the forwards
this club is afraid to use forwards so they go backwards to a contest  :rollin :rollin :rollin turnover bang
this is lead by the coaches no 2 ways about it & l'm totally shocked at what l seen of it today

Wallace & McMahon are both jokes
Title: Re: Tigers vs Swans
Post by: Francois Jackson on June 01, 2008, 04:20:07 PM
Terry Wallace cant coach
who teaches that pooh they displayed out there
who sets them unrealistic matchups


Goodes vs Hyde get effin real this is professional football

Dont blame Bowden he did ok from what l was told
its the coach who instructs this pooh, it dont take 4 years to tell players to go long & use the forwards
this club is afraid to use forwards so they go backwards to a contest  :rollin :rollin :rollin turnover bang
this is lead by the coaches no 2 ways about it & l'm totally shocked at what l seen of it today


u just reminded me TM. hyde on goodes..haha you have got to be kidding yourself.
he was smashed against g.ablett amongst others what makes u think he would do any better against goodes.
we started the game playing defensive football it was so clear the whole cheer squad saw it and it was a bad day for TW.

another performance like this next week and his flood gates will be open come season's end
Wallace & McMahon are both jokes
Title: Re: Tigers vs Swans
Post by: 1965 on June 01, 2008, 04:28:04 PM

A bad day.

We will learn from this and move on.

 :gotigers
Title: Re: Tigers vs Swans
Post by: Tigermonk on June 01, 2008, 04:36:28 PM
wtf we will learn from this  :lol are you joking me

Hyde vs Goodes

 :help  :help  :help  :help  :help  :help  :help  :help
Title: Re: Tigers vs Swans
Post by: tigersalive on June 01, 2008, 05:10:12 PM
wtf we will learn from this  :lol are you joking me

Hyde vs Goodes

 :help  :help  :help  :help  :help  :help  :help  :help


Yeah called it before the bounce when I saw him on Goodes and proceeded to watch Goodes tear him apart.

Reminded me once again why I hate Chris Hyde.
Title: Re: Tigers vs Swans
Post by: Tigermonk on June 01, 2008, 06:33:46 PM
you cant blame Hyde though

being put on a guy like Goodes by your coach is unrealistic but Wallace is doing it too often
Next he will parade us clapping Hawthorn off the ground like frawley had us do at Nathan Burkes retirement after the Saints destroyed us at Teltra dome
l wanted to bury myself in the Dockland sands after being humilated by Saints supporters
whats next
Title: Re: Tigers vs Swans
Post by: tigersalive on June 01, 2008, 08:20:33 PM
you cant blame Hyde though

being put on a guy like Goodes by your coach is unrealistic but Wallace is doing it too often
Next he will parade us clapping Hawthorn off the ground like frawley had us do at Nathan Burkes retirement after the Saints destroyed us at Teltra dome
l wanted to bury myself in the Dockland sands after being humilated by Saints supporters
whats next

Yeah I guess thats true but still when you're sent to do a job I expect you to be on his tail even if he beats you.  Goodes was loose time after time.

Back to the VFL.
Title: Re: Tigers vs Swans
Post by: jackstar on June 01, 2008, 08:58:19 PM
How long before Jackstar reappears and calls for TW's head.

 :thumbsup

Not long :lol
Great coaching today :clapping
Title: Re: Tigers vs Swans
Post by: torch on June 02, 2008, 12:31:03 AM
Hyde has to go!

no questions asked.
Title: Re: Tigers vs Swans
Post by: richmondrules on June 02, 2008, 06:47:51 AM
How long before Jackstar reappears and calls for TW's head.

 :thumbsup

Not long :lol
Great coaching today :clapping

And this is the worst thing to have come from the loss to Sydney.
Title: Re: Tigers vs Swans
Post by: Judge Roughneck on June 02, 2008, 06:51:44 AM
you cant blame Hyde though

being put on a guy like Goodes by your coach is unrealistic but Wallace is doing it too often

lol

Hyde is sposed to be in the side as a tagger.

If the bloke he is playing on kills him you cant say 'oh its not Hydes fault Goodes is too good'.

Time to stuff him, Petts. and co off.
Title: Re: Tigers vs Swans
Post by: Tigermonk on June 02, 2008, 09:02:40 AM
you cant blame Hyde though

being put on a guy like Goodes by your coach is unrealistic but Wallace is doing it too often

lol

Hyde is sposed to be in the side as a tagger.

If the bloke he is playing on kills him you cant say 'oh its not Hydes fault Goodes is too good'.

Time to eff him, Petts. and co off.

anyone who thinks Hyde could possibly tag a gaint like Goodes a dual Brownlow medallist who eats players for breakfast are deluded
Hyde is approx 16kg smaller in weight & 12 cm smaller in height compared to Goodes,
its a outragoues matchup we got bigger body players who could have taken the job & blocked him coming out of the centre so easy
best thing Goodes done all day was injure captain past it
heres supporters wanting to get rid of players like Petts, Bowden, Hyde & whoever else you wanna killoff, but the culprit is the coach
Sydney ruckman tapped the ball to Goodes with ease, & Goodes blast out of the centre, a small man like Hyde never had a chance, the task was unrealistic on paper & the field & seeing rubbish like this really makes me wonder why l bother


Title: Re: Tigers vs Swans
Post by: jackstar on June 02, 2008, 09:29:08 AM
Totally agree Tigermonk.
The brightness of the solarium must have affected his judgement, how on earth could he have put Hyde on Goodes, the obvious match up was McMahon on Goodes :lol :lol :lol :lol :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :jump :jump :stupid :stupid :yep :yep :yep :yep :yep :yep :yep :yep
Title: Re: Tigers vs Swans
Post by: the_boy_jake on June 02, 2008, 04:33:39 PM
Just got back from Sydney....

Two of the many problems

In our defensive 50, if the players are meant to be zoning off then they need to use some common sense and if their is space in front of the player, move into. The number of times our blokes were lazy and found flatfooted standing 5 - 10 metres to the side of their opposite number and the opposition player took a chest mark is amazing. Tambling, Jack and McMahon were culprits.

I didn't see one screen in our forward 50. Occasionally a bloke would make a run behind one of our blokes looking for it and his teammate would instead run into the (congested) space where the other tiger had come from.  :banghead

Title: Re: Tigers vs Swans
Post by: tiga on June 02, 2008, 05:05:27 PM
Well that game was a disappointment. I wish I hadn't gone to the game!!  :'( Who was it at the club that ordered the players to ride bicycles to Sydney? Well it sure did look like someone had ordered it as they ran out of puff before the first ball had even been bounced!  :banghead Sydney were running down the corridor in waves all day. It was a Blitzkrieg!! I used to think we were good mud runners but now I think the complete opposite. Our form this season during wet and drizzly games has been appauling. We couldn't keep on our feet and every player fumbled the ball or lost their feet on numerous occasions.  On a small ground like the SCG you don't have time to recover from such errors and the Swans know how to take advantage of it better than anyone. Simmonds was on daylight savings time when competing in the ruck! Miss timed just about every tap! Our drive out of the backline was terrible. Every time we got the ball we seemed to immediately get rid of it and always to players under pressure. Apart from Cotch or Lids and Tambo for a fleeting moment, nobody was prepared to run the ball and take the opposition on! :banghead

Rant over!

Hope for improvement next week!
 
Title: Re: Tigers vs Swans
Post by: the_boy_jake on June 02, 2008, 05:32:10 PM
We couldn't keep on our feet and every player fumbled the ball or lost their feet on numerous occasions.

Actually I've never seen a game where one team has lost feet so much more than the other.

It was like the two teams were playing on different surfaces.
Title: Re: Tigers vs Swans
Post by: WilliamPowell on June 02, 2008, 08:28:06 PM

Actually I've never seen a game where one team has lost feet so much more than the other.

It was like the two teams were playing on different surfaces.


Agree Jake - it was dreadful. I got to the ground around 12.00pm so I go to see some of the curtain raiser game Swans -v- Demons (eastlake) and there were blokes losing their footing in that game too. Have to say the surface looked damp so......

Gotta say I do agree with Wallace it is a players responsibility to chose the right bloody boots to wear - not his, they are professionals for crying out loud.
Title: Re: Tigers vs Swans
Post by: WilliamPowell on June 02, 2008, 09:01:46 PM
Actually I knew it was going to be a bad day yesterday ....

It was the road trip from hell  >:( :'(

Flight was late leaving Melb yesterday morning.... 20 minutes late into Sydney

Hire car wasn't ready when I got to Sydney.. 10 minute wait while they washed a replacement

$15 to park the car at the SCG - thank gawd there were 5 in the car or it would have been $20

The chips were cold at the SCG.....

Plane home was delayed 2 hours ...

Then the drive through the fog once back in Melbourne

DOn't really give a stuff about the result after all that  :rollin
Title: Re: Tigers vs Swans
Post by: Francois Jackson on June 02, 2008, 09:47:31 PM
Actually I knew it was going to be a bad day yesterday ....

It was the road trip from hell  >:( :'(

Flight was late leaving Melb yesterday morning.... 20 minutes late into Sydney

Hire car wasn't ready when I got to Sydney.. 10 minute wait while they washed a replacement

$15 to park the car at the SCG - thank gawd there were 5 in the car or it would have been $20

The chips were cold at the SCG.....

Plane home was delayed 2 hours ...

Then the drive through the fog once back in Melbourne

DOn't really give a stuff about the result after all that  :rollin

wp my day doesn't look so bad now after reading all that.
were u in the cheer squad section as well?

i felt so sorry for that little kid dressed up tigers uniform sitting right in the middle of the cheer squad.
i just hope he sees a flag soon and doesnt have to wait as long as me
Title: Re: Tigers vs Swans
Post by: WilliamPowell on June 03, 2008, 07:04:31 AM
wp my day doesn't look so bad now after reading all that.
were u in the cheer squad section as well?

Nope Daniel was sitting in the Noble stand behend the goals surrounded by Swans supporters  :P
Title: Re: Tigers vs Swans
Post by: one-eyed on June 05, 2008, 01:53:30 PM
At least something positive came out of trip to Sydney

Tigers earn their stripes
Mosman Daily
Wednesday 4 June, 2008 

RICHMOND Football Club stars Mitch Morton and Graham Polak took time out from preparing for their league clash with the Sydney Swans on Sunday to give a footy training session to some lucky youngsters at Middle Head Oval.

The Friday night coaching clinic for Mosman Junior Swans under-nine and under-10 teams gave the youngsters the chance to learn skills from some of the Tigers' stars.

Mosman coach Peter Papas said it was terrific to see the Melbourne club showing support at the junior level in NSW.

"We already enjoy great support from the Sydney Swans but it is also great for the kids to get exposure to some of the other AFL clubs," he told the Daily.

Mr Papas said when he began discussions with Richmond, they were very helpful in suggesting how the club could lend some player support to the juniors.

The Mosman Swans club was founded in 1998 and caters for Auskick groups 5-7 year-olds through to under 16s.

http://www.mosmandaily.com.au/article/2008/06/04/2118_sports.html
Title: Re: Tigers vs Swans
Post by: Tiger Tragic on June 05, 2008, 02:25:20 PM
At least something positive came out of trip to Sydney

Tigers earn their stripes
Mosman Daily
Wednesday 4 June, 2008 

RICHMOND Football Club stars Mitch Morton and Graham Polak took time out from preparing for their league clash with the Sydney Swans on Sunday to give a footy training session to some lucky youngsters at Middle Head Oval.

The Friday night coaching clinic for Mosman Junior Swans under-nine and under-10 teams gave the youngsters the chance to learn skills from some of the Tigers' stars.

Mosman coach Peter Papas said it was terrific to see the Melbourne club showing support at the junior level in NSW.

"We already enjoy great support from the Sydney Swans but it is also great for the kids to get exposure to some of the other AFL clubs," he told the Daily.

Mr Papas said when he began discussions with Richmond, they were very helpful in suggesting how the club could lend some player support to the juniors.

The Mosman Swans club was founded in 1998 and caters for Auskick groups 5-7 year-olds through to under 16s.

http://www.mosmandaily.com.au/article/2008/06/04/2118_sports.html

Let's hope Polak wasn't taking the goalkicking part of the clinic  :lol