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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: one-eyed on March 18, 2009, 07:38:35 PM

Title: Kicking was better in the old days: Tony Shaw
Post by: one-eyed on March 18, 2009, 07:38:35 PM
That's Tony Shaw's claim on 3aw tonight. He reckons fitness, tackling, handball skills etc has improved dramatically but the pure football skill of kicking a beautiful drop punt isn't as good by modern players as it use to be.

He also said when you think of the gap between Geelong, Hawthorn, Bulldogs and then Richmond, Carlton, Essendon last year it's their foot skills. He agreed with Russell that sides with poor footskills who try the cluster zone will get smashed this year.
Title: Re: Kicking was better in the old days: Tony Shaw
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on March 18, 2009, 08:02:23 PM
Yes Tony would know.  :wallywink

He was an excellent exponent of the drop punt from his raking left foot.
I mean the ball would just go on and on and on and travel a stupefying 30 metres floating in the true sense of the word.  :lol :rollin :lol
Title: Re: Kicking was better in the old days: Tony Shaw
Post by: Smokey on March 18, 2009, 08:15:28 PM
And I remember when the older, retired players were lamenting the drop in skill (that led to the eventual disappearance) of the drop kick.  Football will always be evolving due to the nature of the game but the basics of courage, fitness, ability and attitude will be paramount regardless of the current skillset required.

The thing that is stuffing the modern game is not the change in skills, it's the constant change in bloody rules.
Title: Re: Kicking was better in the old days: Tony Shaw
Post by: WA Tiger on March 18, 2009, 08:18:29 PM
stuff him, close the thread, why give the prick the satisfaction of even talking about him.
Title: Re: Kicking was better in the old days: Tony Shaw
Post by: mightytiges on March 18, 2009, 08:39:45 PM
Well we now know how to get WAT fired up lol :thumbsup.

Apart from goalkicking which hasn't improved, to compare kicking long to position and one-on-one contests to the modern day pinpointing passes within zones, floods and players running all over the place is ludicrous. Sure there were a select few who were very good kicks in the old days but the average VFL player was one-sided and would just plonk the ball on the foot any old how and kick it as hard as he could forward in the general direction of your teammate upfield.

This just proves further what an idiot Shaw is.
Title: Re: Kicking was better in the old days: Tony Shaw
Post by: yellowandback on March 18, 2009, 09:19:52 PM
I'm quite sure that Ben Stiller studied Tony Shaw when developing his character "Simple  Jack" in the movie Tropic Thunder. 
Title: Re: Kicking was better in the old days: Tony Shaw
Post by: Smokey on March 18, 2009, 09:34:54 PM
I'm quite sure that Ben Stiller studied Tony Shaw when developing his character "Simple  Jack" in the movie Tropic Thunder. 

 :lol   :clapping
Title: Re: Kicking was better in the old days: Tony Shaw
Post by: Mr Magic on March 18, 2009, 11:09:33 PM
He was an excellent exponent of the drop punt from his raking left foot.
I mean the ball would just go on and on and on and travel a stupefying 30 metres floating in the true sense of the word.  :lol :rollin :lol

:lol :lol :lol
It's funny cause it's true.
Title: Re: Kicking was better in the old days: Tony Shaw
Post by: Infamy on March 19, 2009, 11:50:50 AM
Pretty hard to compare when modern day football has much fitter and faster players who can get to more contests every game. Much easier to look like you have good skills when you are kicking into more space.
Title: Re: Kicking was better in the old days: Tony Shaw
Post by: mightytiges on March 19, 2009, 08:54:39 PM
Pretty hard to compare when modern day football has much fitter and faster players who can get to more contests every game. Much easier to look like you have good skills when you are kicking into more space.
Spot on Infamy.

I could see those champions like KB, Royce, Rioli, Keane, Raines, Bourke at Richmond for instance who all had very good kicking techniques still being star players now if they had the training, fitness and recovery regimes etc of modern times but the average VFL footballer of 30 years ago would struggle big time with the more precise footskills required these days to hit narrow targets.
Title: Re: Kicking was better in the old days: Tony Shaw
Post by: yellowandback on March 20, 2009, 09:25:21 PM
I'm quite sure that Ben Stiller studied Tony Shaw when developing his character "Simple  Jack" in the movie Tropic Thunder. 

 :lol   :clapping

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