One-Eyed Richmond Forum
Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: 1965 on June 01, 2009, 10:43:26 AM
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:cheers
Just mentioned on SEN
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KB on SEN just got a media alert
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JUST ANNOUNCED, IMPORTANT PRESS CONFERENCE AT 12
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Beat me to it '65 :rollin
KB said he just got a Media Alert.
They're going to speculate on it now.
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U beat me to it wayne
:thumbsup
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1965 beat us both to it! :lol
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65 u r quick, i thought wayne was quick and got in 1st
so what it is about
terry or cuz or both
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he is quick!!!
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65 u r quick, i thought wayne was quick and got in 1st
so what it is about
terry or cuz or both
It'd have to be Terry you'd think??
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Caretaker time ?????
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Maybe Cuz is giving the media a live demo action replay for those that missed the latest scoop.(http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-finger007.gif)
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The way he talked after the game he was here for the rest of the year.
Is or has he done the Western Bulldogs thing again. Or has it happened to him again ?
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Probably just the club announcing they've signed Terry up for another five years
No big deal
:lol
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Reckon it might be this?
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/6301/newsid/77959/default.aspx
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Police in WA have uncovered an archaic and obscure law.
Cousins will have the offending finger publicly amputated.
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Reckon it might be this?
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/6301/newsid/77959/default.aspx
Just for the comedy value on some "supporters" I hope so
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Reckon it might be this?
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/6301/newsid/77959/default.aspx
No, I think it's bigger than that.
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Reckon it might be this?
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/6301/newsid/77959/default.aspx
No, I think it's bigger than that.
Heard a rumour from a friend of a friend who works at SEN and he said Terry is gone!
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Maybe Cuz is giving the media a live demo action replay for those that missed the latest scoop.(http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-finger007.gif)
CUB ....I find your post offensive.Time for you to release a statement to apologize for your actions. :lol
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Jade Rawlings to be caretaker coach.
:thumbsup
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Bye Terry :clapping
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Reckon it might be this?
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/6301/newsid/77959/default.aspx
No, I think it's bigger than that.
Heard a rumour from a friend of a friend who works at SEN and he said Terry is gone!
Lulz. Short memory from last time SEN said Terry was gone? :lol
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Jade Rawlings to be caretaker coach.
:thumbsup
Does the thumbs up mean you're happy with Rawlings taking over, or that Wallace has gone, or both?
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gotta be happy with both
wallace is way overrated and failed
jade has the respect of the players esp the young group and look what he has achieved at coburg
yesterday game v werribee was a statement!
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Who coaches Coburg!!
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another source tells me that terry will coach his last game v the dogs and then jade will take over
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Who coaches Coburg!!
Maybe Terry. :lol :lol
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another source tells me that terry will coach his last game v the dogs and then jade will take over
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;D
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Who coaches Coburg!!
Maybe Terry. :lol :lol
mcrae maybe to help develop the youngsters , who knows
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Wallace will coach for final time on Friday
TERRY Wallace will coach Richmond for the final time at Docklands on Friday night, after he announced he would leave by “mutual agreement” on Monday.
Wallace’s exit comes just days after his side's stirring win against Fremantle which also brought up his 500th game as player and coach.
The victory was just the second for the team in Wallace's final year of his five-year deal with the Tigers; a year which promised big things pre-season but instead has delivered a series of heartbreaking defeats.
Fittingly, Wallace's last game will be between the Tigers and the Bulldogs, the two teams he has coached at AFL level.
The Tigers will not name their caretaker coach until after Friday night's game.
Richmond president Garry March explained the timing of the decision.
"After ongoing discussions last week and over the weekend, it was resolved last night that this week would be Terry's last game as senior coach of the Richmond Football Club," he said.
"This was a mutual decision, made in the best interests of all parties.
"It was the intention of Richmond and Terry for him to see out his contract.
"However, given the club has a number of important decisions to make over the coming months we all felt that it was appropriate that he finished this weekend."
Wallace played 174 games with Hawthorn, 11 with Richmond and 69 with the Bulldogs, collecting thee premierships with the Hawks along the way. Not overly quick, his hardness at the ball made him the best centreman of his time.
His playing days finished in 1991, and in 1996 he took the reins of the Western Bulldogs, a post he held until 2002. In 2005, he took over at Richmond, where he is the senior coach, having guided the team in 97 matches.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/77977/default.aspx
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Jade Rawlings to be caretaker coach.
:thumbsup
Terry Last Game this week against the Western scumdogs
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l thought they were going to tell me something new ;D
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you beauty
common sense has prevailed.
rawlings will be TOLD to play the youth and do a ratten and not aim for meaningless wins.
its like a win this it really is
goodbye good riddons
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He has just said that he will no longer coach so this is no more with us at Tigerland.
And swan song against the team that sacked him hows that for working things out.
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Jade Rawlings to be caretaker coach.
:thumbsup
Obviously going the tank ;)
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http://www.livenews.com.au/sport/afl/terry-wallace-quitting-as-richmond-coach/2009/6/1/208479
Terry Wallace will stand down after coaching Richmond for the final time on Friday night against the Western Bulldogs.
Richmond president Gary March said the club and Wallace had come to a "mutual agreement" that he stand down.
That decision was made on Sunday night, after the Tigers returned from Perth, where they beat Fremantle by three points on Saturday night.
That was only the Tigers' second win of the season.
Wallace was appointed on a five-year contract, starting with the 2005 season, but has not managed to take Richmond to the finals in his four completed seasons.
The club's best finish in his reign was ninth in 2006 and 2008.
Richmond have reached only three finals series since their 1980 premiership win, the last in 2001.
Wallace conceded before this season began he had to lead the Tigers into the 2009 finals for him to earn another contract.
He has said he would be unlikely to be given a coaching chance at another club.
Wallace said he wanted to continue working in the AFL industry, making it very difficult from him to remain at the club for the remainder of the 2009 season.
"Really the club and I realised it was untenable to stay in the role," he said.
"If I am going into football and I'm making decisions on football ... and I'm involved in those meetings and I (am going to) step away from the club, it's probably not fair on the club."
Wallace said he still had a "real passion for the game", but admitted at 50, he would be unlikely to earn a coaching role at another club.
He said his departure would ease the public pressure on Richmond and the players following months of speculation over the uncertainty of his position.
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Did anyone else see Caro give Terry a kiss at the end of the conference.
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Did anyone else see Caro give Terry a kiss at the end of the conference.
Yuk he have brace marks all over him ;D
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Here's the full 26 minute audio of Wallace, March and Cameron for those that missed it. Just click on "Terry Wallace announcement" down the bottom of the page.
http://www.sportsentral.com/pro/main/storyreader.aspx?sid=11827&sr=all
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Full transcript: Terry Wallace press conference
Gary March
“Thanks everyone for coming. We’re here to announce that after ongoing discussions last week and over the weekend, this will be the last game that Terry will coach as the senior coach of the Richmond Football Club. It was a mutual decision made in the interests of both parties. It’s always been the intention of the Richmond Football Club and Terry Wallace for him to see out his contract, however, given the club has a number of important decisions to make over the coming months, we all felt that it was appropriate that he finish this weekend.
“I’d like to thank Terry for his four-and-a-half years’ contribution to the Richmond Football Club and, in particular, I thank his wife Kerryn and their family for embracing the Richmond Football Club and becoming great friends to all of us – I really thank them.
“I also thought it was appropriate at this time to reflect on the contribution that Terry Wallace has made to the game over the past 32 years. As a player, he played in three premierships, he won four Best and Fairests at two clubs, he was three-times All-Australian, he’s a life member of the Hawthorn and Bulldogs Football Clubs, and of the AFL. In terms of coaching, he was the All-Australian coach in 1998, he’s transformed the lists of both clubs that he’s been at, and his work to develop many young stars of the future.
“If you had to define Terry Wallace as a coach, it would be that he’s been innovative. Off-field, such things as the behind-the-scenes look at football through ‘The Year of the Dog’ documentary. On-field, he was the guy who introduced pre-match warm-ups as part of all football these days. You never know what you were going to get when you got a Terry Wallace-coached side, whether it be a crunch game, whether it be the uber-flood in 2000 against the Essendon Bombers, or whether it was the infamous ‘basketball crap’ game against a rampaging Adelaide at the Telstra Dome. Terry has always been an innovative coach, and he bought a lot of innovation to the Richmond Football Club. We thank him for his time at the Richmond Football Club.”
Terry Wallace
“Over the last two weeks, myself and the club have had an opportunity to reflect on where the club was going and where I was going in the future. The real answer to that is that I don’t know where I’m going in the future, but certainly one of the options that I felt I had available to me in the future with the corporate background that I come from, having been state sales manager of Sky Channel for 10 years and obviously the football background that I have ... one of the opportunities that I thought still presented itself for me if I wanted to stay in football was in club-land, looking to go to another club in maybe a different role or a varying role which a few of the senior coaches in past years have done.
“Once we had those discussions that that could be the likelihood of where I could be going in the future, it got to a situation where both the club and myself ... it was almost untenable really to stay in this role. If I was going in a different direction, if I was going into corporate-land, what we had spoken about in terms of lasting out the season was no problem.
“If I am actually going into football and the club is making decisions on recruiting, and I’m involved in those meetings, if the club is making decisions on list management and player trades, and I’m involved in those meetings, and then I step away with that information at some stage to another club, I don’t think that’s fair on the club, and I don’t think that’s fair on me either to be involved on those types of conversations.
“To not be involved in those conversations is even more difficult. In the last week, I’ve found that you’re starting at this stage of the year to deal with players’ careers, and to be able to sit there and tell a player as a coach that he’s not actually going to go on and be there the following year, and telling him that you may be finishing him up or you’re not going to give him another opportunity for the season, the player could turn around to you and say ‘you’re making decisions on my career, and you’re not going to be there’. I thought that was going to get difficult for the club and myself to deal with.
“What’s happened over the last couple of weeks from a media perspective ... I’m somebody who has been in the game for 32 years, so I can deal with that side of things and have no issue with it. But it gets overwhelming for the playing group – you’ve got guys at 21, 22 to have cameras in their faces on a regular basis, and I felt for their sake as well that the relief of a decision being made and the relief of going on with the rest of the year is a good thing.
“So they were the decisions that have been made. No-one’s angry with each other - the club isn’t angry wth me, I’m not angry with the club, I’m no angry with the players – it’s just a mutual decision that this time was the right time to step away.
“So the long journey of 32 years has finished.
“I’ve said publicly that it’s probably more unlikely than likely that I’ll coach again. I say that because this five years hasn’t exactly worked out how we would have liked it to work out, and obviously it’s a young man’s game. As opportunities come up in the coaching world, they come up for those assistant coaches who desire their chances.
“I’ve still got a real passion for the game – that’s one thing that has never been lost – and I was really keen that the situation of the last few weeks ... I was never going to let the last eight weeks sour the 32 years I’ve had in the game. I haven’t taken anything that has been written personally at all, and I’ve seen it as part of the bigger picture. If it had happened in year eight of a 32-year career, you would have almost forgotten about it by now.
“I’m really keen to stay in the game – I still see areas of the game that I think I could be involved in – and I’m really strong with my passion to stay involved in the game in some regard.
“Because it is probably my last public opportunity, I’d like to have the opportunity to thank a few people. I’d like to publicly thank the Hawthorn Football Club – they were the ones who gave me my opportunity originally. When you’re a young bloke trying to make your way in the game – I was a Fitzroy born-and-bred person who never got the opportunity to play there – and Hawthorn opened the door for me to be able to play football at the elite level.
“I can’t thank them enough for that chance to become a part of what was such a magic era. Also, more for me, they taught me professionalism, and I grew up there. It was a big part of my growing up – we all make mistakes and you mature as a person, but certainly I learned from those mistakes and I think I was a better person for being at the Hawthorn Football Club.
“Next up, I’d obviously like to thank the Western Bulldogs. I had 14 wonderful years at the Western Bulldogs, and one horrible week. I haven’t had an opportunity publicly, due to the circumstances of stepping into a new club, to go on public record of apologising to the Western Bulldogs fans and to David Smorgon and the playing group for the way that the last week worked out.
“It was never my intention for it to go down the pathway that it did. My kids grew up at that club, I’ve got some of my greatest friends that I’ve had in the game at that club, and I hope somewhere along the line that those wounds will heal, as I just think it’s a fantastic footy club.
“It’s ironic that my last game will be against the Bulldogs. The players don’t probably realise and understand that the guys that I drafted back in those early years at the Bulldogs that were playing such fantastic footy – you follow their careers, as I will do with the Richmond boys ... you follow their careers behind the scenes 100 per cent, and it will be my honour to have my last game against those guys that I drafted at the Western Bulldogs.
“Lastly, I’d like to thank the Richmond Football Club for giving me the chance to get back into the game. I didn’t want that opportunity at the Bulldogs to be my last chapter in the game, and the Tigers were the ones to give me the chance to go back on.
“I had two stints at Richmond – obviously one very quick one as a player and this coaching stint – neither of them worked out exactly the way I would have liked them to, but I came back for all the right reasons.
“I came back with some unfinished business because it hadn’t worked the first time around. I came back here for a reason – the reason that every single Tiger fan is dreaming about still – to come back here to see the Tigers get back on top. Unfortunately it didn’t happen in my reign, but I’m sure it’ll happen somewhere along the line very shortly.
“I’m proud to have coached this club as it’s a big four club, and you’ve only got to see by the media who do follow it over a period of time that it has that appeal about it. This club will get it right. I’m proud of some of the decisions we made along the way – the decision we made to put Mathew Richardson up onto a wing 12 months ago. You only had to go to the Brownlow Medal last year ... the whole of the public and footy people got to see what a magnificent athlete Matthew is. I think people realised it, but they didn’t quite have the comprehension as to what sort of an athlete Matthew was. The way that they cheered him home in last year’s Brownlow Medal was testament to that.
“Earlier this year, I said that if the last decision I made in football was to give a champion of our game one last opportunity, that would be something that I would live with very comfortably. To give Ben Cousins another opportunity to play the game was, I felt, the right thing.
“Certainly from a football aspect, we’ve seen over the last couple of weeks that he can seriously still play the game. He’s still got something to offer to the game. More importantly, I think that the game needs to treat its people in the right capacity, and I think that the Richmond footy club gave him that chance, and I was more than pleased to give him that chance to continue to play on.
“I know there have been some people who have said that I’m not leaving the place any better than when I arrived, and I don’t believe that. I look at when I arrived, and people said ‘don’t take the job on’, (but) I was always up for a challenge.
“At that stage, we had no players at this footy club that were aged between 21 and 23 who were likely to have 10-year careers. You have a look at what ran around at Subiaco the other night which was young and exciting, and there are some young backline players and very young forward-line players coming through. I think whoever takes on the role next-up has an exciting footy club to go forward.
“The club was a basket case off the field when I arrived. The work that the board and management have put in to turn that around ... the next generation of players are there, but the next generation off the field is there. Unfortunately I won’t be sitting in this facility – it’ll be fantastic for the club to have new facilities.
“In finishing, I’d like to thank the board and management of the Richmond footy club, not only for giving me the opportunity, but more particularly over the last few weeks in the manner they’ve treated my family. It was not lost on me at all, and I really appreciate their kind thoughts and efforts in that regard.
“To all the staff and the playing group and the coaches you work so closely with ... you spend more time with the staff than you do with your own family ... that’s the nature of footy. To all those guys, the professionalism of all the coaches – I couldn’t thank them enough for their efforts. For all the ancillary staff – so many people have put in so many man-hours in football clubs all around Australia, but particularly in the AFL clubs and get no credit for it – I thank them for all of their time and efforts.
“More particularly, to my family – it’s been a long journey and a long ride. You can’t do this job without having real stability on the home front, and I’ve been very lucky and fortunate in that way.”
Wallace on the difficulty of the decision to stand down:
“To finish off anywhere where you’ve got a passion is difficult – it’s a difficult scenario. When you methodically go through where it sits – and it was only a fortnight ago that I said that I was comfortable to see it (the year) out – I’m comfortable to do what I think is right for the footy club. We’ve made a mutual decision – we’re all comfortable with that – and I think that’s the right time to do it rather than drawing it out to something or holding onto something that’s not there.”
Craig Cameron on Richmond’s future coach:
“With Terry coaching on Friday, we’re not going to make announcements on any caretaker coach until Saturday, so we won’t talk about that or the process at this stage. The process is ongoing, but it (a decision) will be made this week.”
Wallace on where the season has gone wrong:
“In this competition, you can’t afford to lose close games. We’ve had opportunities to win games from the start of the season – we had a run-down opportunity to win a game in Sydney with all the momentum going our way, we had a game over at Port Adelaide that was almost unloseable that we got beaten in.
“Basic scenarios like that cost you, and the other factor is that we haven’t had our best blokes on the park. We went into the season expecting (Ben) Cousins and (Trent) Cotchin to have a massive part of the midfield – they haven’t been on the ground. We’ve lost Mathew (Richardson), who was such a key player in last year’s success. I know he’s 34 years of age, but we were still planning at the start of the year that he’d have a reasonable role to play. We haven’t been able to get Nathan Brown fit. If you get those four blokes up and running, it’s probably a different season.”
Wallace on whether Richmond’s next coach should be an experienced or untested coach:
“It’s certainly not my decision. Certainly with Craig, I’ve passed on my thoughts as regards to what still needs fixing around the place. Every club is a work in progress, particularly this football club as we’ve come from such a low base a few years ago.
“When I first walked in the door, for two years we didn’t have a recruiting officer. It was the end of the third season when we got our first development coach. We were a long way behind a lot of the other clubs, and we’ve caught up a lot of ground.
“It’s a winning game, and premierships are what it’s about. I look at someone like Grant Thomas, and I think Grant is seen as a successful coach. My era at the Bulldogs was everything that his era at St Kilda was. I’ve had another five years (at Richmond) that haven’t been as successful. I say that I’ve added to the game – history will show whether I’ve added to the Richmond football club.”
Wallace on Richmond’s recruiting and list management over his time as coach:
“It’s probably the most fascinating part of the whole game. You sit back and look at the two clubs that I coached – did I get any credit for what happened at the Bulldogs or is Scotty Clayton getting all of the credit, and do I take the pain and punishment for decisions at Tigerland?
“It is the unknown, but the bottom line is that the buck stops with the senior coach, and I’ve got no issue with that. My management style has always been to let the decision-makers make their decisions, and I’ll stand by that at either club. They either make great decisions to keep you employed, or they make not-so-great decisions that have you in scenarios you don’t want to be in.”
On his feelings immediately after the decision to stand aside:
“Probably confusion. It all happens so quickly ... you try to get it summarised in your own head. There are so many other people involved in it. It’s certainly not relief.”
http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/77995/default.aspx
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Professional and gracious to the last. He had to go but I think he has put us on the right track. Sad people only see the negatives and ignore the positives.
Oh well, time to find a new coach to blame... :'(
Stripes
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Just to clarify a few things.
*todays decision was made last Tuesday week, but due to ""contractual" arrangements, today had to be the the day.
*Craig Cameron hasnt got off to a good start at RFC and continues to make mistakes. He should of said the following. "" the process of caretaker coach has been finalised but no announcements made till next saturday"" . Its common knowledge that Jade Rawlings has been offered the job as caretaker.
*As for Wallace, he is the master of spin. deflecting beautifully and talking about the Bulldogs recruits, lol What about the garbage you have left us with, will take another coach 3 years to get rid of the rubbish we have accrued over the past 5 years. :banghead
LOL Terry apologising to the western bulldogs, what about the poor tiger supporters you idiot.
One thing is for certain, Bulldogs will stick it up us on friday night, nothing is more certain.
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what a load of crap.
ooh tanned one is deflecting beautifully.
cant believe he is apologising to the Buldogs supporters. what a load of poo.
Loser Terry still looks in the rear view mirror and not forward. He wil never learn. Ooh well he has plenty of time to think of his next spin session.
good riddons
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Its not over yet ;D
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What about the garbage you have left us with, will take another coach 3 years to get rid of the rubbish we have accrued over the past 5 years. :banghead
Stop making excuses already sunshine.
Your mates wanted this, you got it, now delivery time.
No pressure
;D
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What about the garbage you have left us with, will take another coach 3 years to get rid of the rubbish we have accrued over the past 5 years. :banghead
Stop making excuses already sunshine.
Your mates wanted this, you got it, now delivery time.
No pressure
;D
Hows that soap taste ;D
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What about the garbage you have left us with, will take another coach 3 years to get rid of the rubbish we have accrued over the past 5 years. :banghead
Stop making excuses already sunshine.
Your mates wanted this, you got it, now delivery time.
No pressure
;D
Hows that soap taste ;D
best post of the week there Monk :lol :lol :lol :lol ;)
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Its not over yet ;D
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;) ;)
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What about the garbage you have left us with, will take another coach 3 years to get rid of the rubbish we have accrued over the past 5 years. :banghead
Stop making excuses already sunshine.
Your mates wanted this, you got it, now delivery time.
No pressure
;D
Hows that soap taste ;D
How does Jack's *%&## taste ... err never mind, don't really wanna know :lol
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your a disgrace Moi, you have no idea whats been going on at punt road.
Its been a shamble and a mates club for too long.
you dont like whats going to happen, bad luck. you aint seen nothing yet
There a some people who want the club to be successful . i certainly do.
Big changes instore, needs to happen and will happen , to return the tigers to a power club, not a laughing stock as has been the case
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might just add, thats todays decision was made last tuesday week,
Hutchy was on the money
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your a disgrace Moi, you have no idea whats been going on at punt road.
Its been a shamble and a mates club for too long.
you dont like whats going to happen, bad luck. you aint seen nothing yet
There a some people who want the club to be successful . i certainly do.
Big changes instore, needs to happen and will happen , to return the tigers to a power club, not a laughing stock as has been the case
That's all anyone wants on here, Jack
You're such a moron :wallywink
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your a disgrace Moi, you have no idea whats been going on at punt road.
Its been a shamble and a mates club for too long.
you dont like whats going to happen, bad luck. you aint seen nothing yet
There a some people who want the club to be successful . i certainly do.
Big changes instore, needs to happen and will happen , to return the tigers to a power club, not a laughing stock as has been the case
That's all anyone wants on here, Jack
You're such a moron :wallywink
Only one moron around here,all we all know who that is ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;)
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your a disgrace Moi, you have no idea whats been going on at punt road.
Its been a shamble and a mates club for too long.
you dont like whats going to happen, bad luck. you aint seen nothing yet
There a some people who want the club to be successful . i certainly do.
Big changes instore, needs to happen and will happen , to return the tigers to a power club, not a laughing stock as has been the case
yep enough is enough our club is a basket case and only MAJOR changes will turn our club around.
I dont understand you MOI do you like not participating in regular finals??
WE ARE A RABBLE AND poo NEEDS TO CHANGE DOWN THERE
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What about the garbage you have left us with, will take another coach 3 years to get rid of the rubbish we have accrued over the past 5 years. :banghead
Stop making excuses already sunshine.
Your mates wanted this, you got it, now delivery time.
No pressure
;D
Hows that soap taste ;D
How does Jack's *%&## taste ... err never mind, don't really wanna know :lol
Sorry dont know as l dont get my info off Jack but his mostly on the money.
just sit back Moi & suck it in & have a bite on that soap ;D that some people do care for the club but changes must be made & when the club is not being operated properly then people must be exposed & moved on
The club was always going to fail under Casey, March, Miller, because Wallace came to the club & never had the tools to make the club successful. (Frawley the same ) they started the rebuild the wrong way & it blew up in thier faces. They couldnot develope the players properly & thats why Tambling & Deledio & others have suffered which is what we been saying for years but your a critic to us. you say we are always full of crap well lather up ;D
What was said in that press conference yesterday was exactly what has been said here for several years, no-one is shocked here apart from the younger kids who support the club.
How can you rebuild a club when you dont have the payed staff & development staff. Draft #1 picks & have no-one to take them further. Thats Richmond fault & not the coach.
l could go on & on about how far that club is behind many others but the main thing is the players have suffered because they are so under developed.
The supporters have been sucked in & promised when the club knew they were so far behind but the spin was needed to get the membership up & sponsors in
So Wallace leaves but nothing changes because we are still in the same position we were 10 years ago. Just advanced with record memberships & a few extra wooden spoons & angry supporters who continue to support in hope & thats all of us
l'm more shocked at the way the club failed to develope, & thats because we bring in people from other clubs who dont want our club to develope properly because they still have huge interest at thier old clubs & leak info to them clubs.
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Tigermonk :thumbsup