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Football => View from the Outer => Topic started by: one-eyed on November 18, 2020, 06:59:10 PM
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The Commission has accepted the following game adjustments ahead of the 2021 Toyota AFL Premiership Season:
1. A maximum of 75 total player interchanges per match
Rotations will decrease from 90 per match in 2020 to 75 per match in 2021. Each team will continue to be permitted four interchange players.
2. Player Standing The Mark
The defending Player will only be permitted minimal lateral movement on The Mark. If the defending player moves off The Mark in any direction prior to "Play On" being called, a 50-metre penalty will apply. The defensive team is unable to substitute the Player on The Mark.
3.Location of The Mark at Kick Ins
The Mark shall be set at 15 metres from the centre of the Kick-Off Line towards the centre of the ground at Kick Ins. This was previously set at 10 metres.
https://www.afl.com.au/news/524846/game-adjustments-for-the-2021-toyota-afl-premiership-season
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The scoring trend has been falling as they've been reducing bench rotations in recent years yet Hocking thinks lowering rotations even further will somehow now increase scoring :huh3.
Making players more tired will also only make the skill level and decision making even poorer.
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I wonder if the man on the mark rule will mean you don't man the mark but patrol the left and the right with two players either side which allows them to move and they fall back after the kick in or close of the kicker runs it.
The demand to be stationary and further back may just make the player non effective. Not that they are effective much now.
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What do they mean unable to substitute the player on the mark?
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What do theyean unable to substitute the player onntheark?
If your man marks it you have to stand there. Can't run on (like a tall defender) and drop back while a small forward takes your mark.
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Oh so rule 2 is to standing the mark in play not just kick outs. My previous assumed it was a kick out from a point..
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Isn't there a 4th change to 3 players inside your offensive 50m zone at kick Ind and throw ins. That's what Twitter is saying
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Isn't there a 4th change to 3 players inside your offensive 50m zone at kick Ind and throw ins. That's what Twitter is saying
VFL I think
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Yeah the netball zone crap is for the state leagues for now......all a stuffing joke ....#SackSHocking :thumbsdown
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There is a simple way to fix scoring. Pay the real free kicks to key forwards. The 3 on 1 blocking, arm chopping and blatant holds are ridiculous.. The 2020 Coleman medallist Hawkins had to cheat via pushing in the back to get his goals. It's no wonder players like Brown and Tex struggled. I blame the very poor adjudication of the game for the low scoring rather then the actual rules. As for Richmond well we barely got a free kick this year...
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Extend the kick-to-mark minimum to 20 metres...get rid of ruck nominations and ball up straight away...no last touch rule but crack down even harder on deliberate OOB , get rid of prior opp, i/c 15 per quarter.... 25 metre penalties for minor and accidental violations, 50s only for serious and deliberate ones...do all that then declare a 50-year moratorium on further rule changes and disband the rules committee... :shh
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I wonder what team that Hocking once played for that these new rules will help the most?
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It will backfire as they will ultimately suit the fittest side....which is us.... :shh
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These rule changes are going to be a nightmare for the umps who are already struggling with the other rule changes Hocking has forced upon the game :facepalm.
The only positive is, as Dio pointed out, our blokes like Kane Lambert are going to love a more endurance based game.
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20-minute quarters 'most likely' to return in AFL next season.
https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/20-minute-quarters-most-likely-to-return-in-afl-next-season-20201121-p56go8.html
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Wonder how the new rules in the state leagues will affect the AFL clubs trying to teach game plans to their list -especially a club like North with a new coach and presumably a new game plan and if it will confuse players who come in & go out of the senior side....probably another thing the GFL didn't quite think through... :shh
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Very happy to hear 20min quarters are likely to return. Hopefully that helps push Cats over the cliff.
New rules won't change much. All the excess players will just be standing on the 50m line ready to flood etc.
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Re-watching our finals, this new man on the mark restriction is going to be a nightmare to adjudicate. Players are instinctively use to moving laterally on the mark and reading which way the player with the ball will move off their line. We are very good at it. One of the ways we apply pressure and limit time and space.
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‘No point’: Coach says matter of time before ‘unnatural’ AFL rule change regarding the man on the mark is broken
Glenn Valencich
7Sport
08/02/2021
AFL football boss Steve Hocking believes the league’s new ‘stand’ rule is having a significant impact on the play in trial matches.
But a VFL coach says it’s a matter of time before teams begin to outsmart the regulation change in search of victory.
Under a new rule introduced for 2021, men on the mark are effectively banned from moving side to side.
Minimal lateral movement is permitted but 50-metre penalties will be handed out if umpires believe the defensive player has shifted too far.
The ‘game adjustment’ also outlaws the tactic of one teammate taking over the mark from another - effectively limiting a team’s ability to get numbers back into defence.
Read more here: https://7news.com.au/sport/afl/no-point-footy-coach-says-matter-of-time-before-unnatural-afl-rule-change-is-broken-c-2117127
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The new man on the mark rule in action:
Watch here: https://twitter.com/NotRodd/status/1362937110815068161
https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-2021-new-manning-the-mark-rule-stand-rule-video-essendon-match-simulation-50-metre-penalty-steve-hocking-reaction/news-story/cb63c5e589d320d059ce7f0f3f4c2503
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Richmond star Dylan Grimes gives his thoughts on the new man on the mark rule and whether it'll make any difference.
Listen here: https://twitter.com/1116sen/status/1364119049823690758
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“I’m not sure it’s such a great idea,” Balme told host Dwayne Russell.
“I don’t like making rules for the sake of making rules.
“It’s hard for the umpires to come terms with it as well as the players.
“We should allow people to be able to defend the mark. I don’t think that’s unreasonable.”
https://thewest.com.au/sport/afl/kane-cornes-neil-balme-join-chorus-of-critics-of-afls-new-man-on-mark-rule-for-season-2021-ng-b881807762z
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Looking forward to more examples like this in round 1 :facepalm.
https://twitter.com/beet_gordon/status/1365815138154991616
In general play, it will get to the point where coaches will instruct their players to not bother standing on the mark as the player with the ball is able to just run past the enforced 'statue' on the mark. Better off hanging back 20m as an extra defender filling space and able to charge and tackle the ballplayer if he runs forward over the mark.
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If that idiotic rule lasts beyond round 4 I'll be stuffing amazed.#SackSHocking :shh
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'Dialling it down': AFL considering change to 'ridiculous' new rule
Chris Young
au.sports.yahoo.com
Tue, 2 March 2021, 12:48 pm
The AFL will reportedly wait until the pre-season competition is finished before deciding whether or not to alter the interpretation of strict and controversial new man on the mark rules.
The newly implemented rule, which prevents a player manning the mark from moving more than a metre from side-to-side, generated significant controversy over the weekend when Fremantle defender Brenna Cox gave up a 50m penalty after turning around while his opponent lined up a shot on goal.
While the scrutiny of the rule, particularly after the Brennan decsion, has been fierce, the AFL is, for now, standing by the interpretation of the rule - though AFL head of football Steve Hocking left the door open for umpires to interpret the rule slightly differently after the upcoming pre-season games have been completed.
In defending the new rule, Hocking said just six 50m penalties had been given for more than 2000 paid marks, proof players had adjusted well to the new rule.
“We’re very, very happy with where it’s at when you consider the amount of times the ball was stopped during play at the weekend,’’ he told the Herald Sun.
“It was our first real opportunity to have a look at it and we will continue to look at it, as we did with 6-6-6, and if there needs to be a subtle adjustment to it, that’s what we will do over the coming weeks."
https://au.sports.yahoo.com/afl-consider-change-controversial-stand-rule-man-on-mark-steve-hocking-014808476.html
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EXPLAINER: How the new 'standing the mark' rule works
https://www.afl.com.au/video/555300/explainer-how-the-new-standing-the-mark-rule-works?videoId=555300&modal=true&type=video&publishFrom=1614711600001 (https://www.afl.com.au/video/555300/explainer-how-the-new-standing-the-mark-rule-works?videoId=555300&modal=true&type=video&publishFrom=1614711600001)
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Honestly I hate hocking more than anyone in the AFL.
This is clearly a ploy to stop defenders from moving laterally and help the geriatrics at Geelong to move the ball forward!
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St Kilda already trialing having their players not stand on the mark and instead remain outside the protected area so their closest defender can move without giving away a 50. No surprise coaches would start trying this.
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New rules impact: (Round 1 comparison)
Tackles R50-to-I50s Cont. poss. Scoring Stoppages
2016 68.7 23.7 146.2 97.1 58.9
2017 65.4 24.8 144.6 103.6 55.1
2018 62.4 25.5 152.5 88.8 61.6
2019 62.0 23.3 149.7 78.7 60.2
2021 53.9 29.7 141.6 86.7 50.4
https://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/sport/afl/revealed-the-numbers-that-show-footy-was-a-greater-spectacle-in-round-one-20210321-p57cng.html
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Massive meedja circle jerk over how the new rules have opened the game right up...
...inb4 the return of the flood and then winter.... :shh
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The stats don't lie: How has footy changed in 2021?
Nathan Schmook
afl.com.au
11 June 2021
AFL executive general manager of football Steve Hocking said there had been fluctuations in the data, but rule adjustments in 2021 had provided a better balance between attack and defence overall.
"As a whole, all indicators are trending well, but we know the game will continue to adjust across the course of the season," Hocking told AFL.com.au.
"Some teams will make adjustments across the bye weeks and potential impacts will be on show across the following rounds.
"The diversity in game styles across the competition is good for the game and hopefully something supporters are enjoying this season."
Scoring Rate:
2021 – 82.7
2020* – 75.7
2019 – 80.9
The spike in uninterrupted ball movement from defensive 50 to attacking 50 has been one of the most significant changes in 2021, with the League's data showing the D50 to I50 transition rate has increased by 3.8 per cent this season.
This change was most pronounced early in the season, when the rate was 26.8 per cent from rounds one to three, but it has held relatively firm to be 24.1 per cent across the 12 completed rounds.
The kick-in to inside 50 rate of 23.4 per cent is an increase on both 2019 (18.8 per cent) and the adjusted 2020 rate of 19.1 per cent.
Corridor use, meanwhile, has remained relatively unchanged compared to the past two seasons at 27.8 per cent, an increase of 0.3 per cent compared to 2019.
There were two matches in round 12 – the Dreamtime clash and Collingwood's win over Adelaide – with corridor use of more than 33 per cent.
Stoppages remain down, with 7.2 fewer a game compared to adjusted 2020 figures, while the rate of secondary stoppages (13.9 per cent) has also fallen slightly compared to 2020 (15.4 per cent) and 2019 (14.3 per cent).
https://www.afl.com.au/news/629310/the-stats-don-t-lie-how-has-footy-changed-in-2021-
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Wasn't it SHocking's new rules would see the return of the 100 goal a season full forward ::).
2021 Coleman medal:
* Lowest ever goal tally by the winner in a 22 round H&A season.
* Lowest goal tally by the winner since 1965.
* 4th lowest goal tally by the winner in the last 100 years.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coleman_Medal
n.b. excluding last year's shortened season.
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I actually despise that peace of poo.
More so since he colluded with Scott to bend us over, then jumped ship and went back to Geelong.
stuffin cheat is what he is.
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2021 was the lowest average scoring (full) season since 1967.
Dropped by an average of 10 points in the last few years.
2011 92
2012 92
2013 92
2014 86
2015 86
2016 88
2017 89
2018 83
2019 80
2020 60 .... ( 20% shorter games )
2021 79
https://afltables.com/afl/seas/season_idx.html
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What were those stats all about then ,hocking paraded mid season saying things couldn’t be better ?
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The game has been played for how long.. Why do we change the rules
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The game has been played for how long.. Why do we change the rules
https://www.afl.com.au/about-afl/history/first-written-rules-of-football
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The game has been played for how long.. Why do we change the rules
https://www.afl.com.au/about-afl/history/first-written-rules-of-football
Ball shall never be picked up off the ground haha fmd.
And you were allowed to trip blokes lol.
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In today'S AFL Daily, Damian Barrett and Nathan Schmook join the dots on one of football's big issues.
- 77.5 points per game is the lowest on average since 1966 (other than 2020's shorter quarters).
- 'The game is moving into a lower scoring phase.
- Tony Lockett and Jason Dunstall would have reached 58 goals by the bye in some seasons, but 58 was enough for Harry McKay to win the Coleman Medal.
- Are ruck nominations costing ball movement?
- We might get some more movement of ball if there was a stricter holding the ball.
https://www.afl.com.au/news/684533/listen-fix-this-issue-now-and-bring-back-the-game-s-rock-stars-
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The SANFL will adopt the AFL’s “stand” rule for the 2022 season. If lowest ever scoring, low goal kicking tallies, confused umpires, players and fans and the league forcing a team to play with one less player is what you want then congrats.
https://twitter.com/kanecornes/status/1453218446733295616
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“IT WAS A JOKE”: CORNES CALLS ON AFL TO SCRAP RULE AHEAD OF 2022 SEASON
https://www.sen.com.au/news/2021/10/27/it-was-a-joke-cornes-calls-on-afl-to-scrap-rule-ahead-of-2022-season/
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The SANFL will adopt the AFL’s “stand” rule for the 2022 season. If lowest ever scoring, low goal kicking tallies, confused umpires, players and fans and the league forcing a team to play with one less player is what you want then congrats.
https://twitter.com/kanecornes/status/1453218446733295616
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“IT WAS A JOKE”: CORNES CALLS ON AFL TO SCRAP RULE AHEAD OF 2022 SEASON
https://www.sen.com.au/news/2021/10/27/it-was-a-joke-cornes-calls-on-afl-to-scrap-rule-ahead-of-2022-season/
Well this is truly a miracle
I agree with Kane Cornes
First time for everything I suppose :rollin