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Future pick trades: Who you should barrack against next year
Check out which picks your club has for 2021 and which other teams you should be tracking
By Ben Sutton - 4 hrs ago
BRISBANE will be hoping for a Melbourne disaster in 2021 with the Lions holding the Demons' first-round pick.
Greater Western Sydney and Richmond will also be following the fortunes of opposition clubs next year after both acquired an extra first-rounder during the NAB AFL Draft.
After another busy off-season, all of the trading is officially over, but there is still plenty to think about in 2021 with 30 future picks changing hands.
The Lions traded their first two picks in this year's draft and their 2021 second-round pick in exchange for the Demons' prized first pick next year, pick No.25 and two later picks.
Melbourne finished ninth this year with a 9-8 record and if the Dees fail to make the finals again in 2021, Brisbane will reap the rewards in the form of a top-10 pick.
The Giants will be hoping for a similar fall from Collingwood after they gave up pick No.24, a second-round pick and a future fourth-round pick (tied to Geelong) in exchange for the Pies' first pick in 2021.
Geelong also made a big move during the draft, trading its first selection in 2021 to the Tigers in exchange for pick No.20 so the Cats could grab speedster Max Holmes.
The deal gives Richmond an extra first-round pick to play with in 2021, but it's unlikely it will be in the top 15 given the Cats' bumper Trade Period.
Check out which picks your club has for 2021.
2021 DRAFT SELECTIONS TRADED
IN OUT
RICH - Round one pick (tied to Geelong)
- Round two pick (tied to St Kilda)
- Round three pick (tied to Gold Coast) - Round four pick to St Kilda
https://www.afl.com.au/news/528418/future-pick-trades-who-you-should-barrack-against-next-year
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Our current picks:
Richmond
12, 15 (Geelong), 22 (St Kilda), 31, 45 (Gold Coast), 49
Adelaide 10, 29, 36, 65, 68
Brisbane 11, 17, 46, 48, 57, 72
Carlton 6, 25, 61
Collingwood 37, 39, 47, 50
Essendon 7, 44, 53
Fremantle 13, 32
Geelong 24, 26, 34, 52
Gold Coast 8, 19, 27, 43, 54, 62, 63
GWS Giants 2, 5, 42, 60
Hawthorn 4, 21, 23, 56, 67
Melbourne 30, 41, 55
North Melb. 1, 20, 38, 66
Port Adel. 16, 59, 70, 71
St Kilda 3, 40, 58
Sydney 14, 33, 69
West Coast 9, 28, 35, 51, 64
W.Bulldogs 18, 73
Full current indicative draft order: https://www.afl.com.au/news/603145/indicative-draft-order-check-out-your-club-s-picks
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Hopefully it ends up
8 (Geelong pick)
18
20 (Saints pick)
36
39 (Gold Coast pick) :pray
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Think Geelong will finish high up on the ladder based on them being poo so far yet still 4-2.
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Even if we both finish around that top 4 we should have 2 picks around 14-15, maybe dropped a spot or two from FA compo.
Should be able to trade both for a top 3-5 pick if we want to, or keep them both and hope for a couple of Nick Vlastuins.
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On the Couch tonight saying we're going down a different path to Geelong and Hawthorn. Both of the latter topped up via free agency and trade deals while, for a team that's won 3 out of the last 4, we've kept hold of and boosted our draft picks to regenerate.
Our current picks by the way are:
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Given we currently have 3 picks in the top 25 (picks 11, 16 & 24).
AFL draft central's Top 25 at this stage:
1. Jason Horne (mid)
2. Nick Daicos (F/S Coll)
3. Tyler Sonsie (mid)
4. Matthew Roberts (mid/forward)
5. Josh Sinn (HB/mid)
6. Campbell Chesser (wing)
7. Matthew Johnson (inside mid)
8. Josh Rachele (forward/mid)
9. Jack Williams (tall forward/ruck)
10. Josh Gibcus (tall defender)
11. Finn Callagan (wing/HB)
12. Josh Fahey (GWS academy)
13. Jacob Van Rooyen (tall forward)
14. Neil Erasmus (mid/forward)
15. Sam Darcy (F/S Dogs)
16. Rhett Bazzo (tall defender/forward)
17. Ben Hobbs (inside mid)
18. Cooper Murley (mid)
19. Josh Goater (190cm mid)
20. Arlo Draper (mid/forward)
21. Mac Andrew (Melb NGA)
22. Ned Long (192cm inside mid)
23. Josh Browne (mid)
24. Lewis Rayson (HB/mid)
25. Darcy Wilmot (small defender)
https://afl.draftcentral.com.au/2021/06/01/draft-central-power-rankings-june-2021/
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Callum Twomey from his latest podcast:
Not a talls draft. Mainly a mids/rovers/flankers draft.
Best:
Sam Darcy (Dogs F/S) ... best tall
Nick Daicos (Coll F/S)
Jason Horne ... likely No.1 pick at this stage.
Josh Gibcus (key def)
Finn Callahan (189cm wing/half-back)
Matt Roberts (inside mid)
Josh Rachele (Alan Didak like)
Some top liners we haven't seen much this year due to injury:
Ben Hobbs (inside mid)
Josh Sinn (half-back/mid
Cooper Murley (mid forward)
Campbell Chesser (mid)
Fewer talls since some of the highly rated ones have already gone in midseason draft (Jacob Edwards & Ned Moyle).
Remaining talls:
Rhett Bazzo
Jack Williams
Jacob van Rooyen
Toby Conway best ruck.
Names creating buzz:
Neil Eramus .... avg 28 disposals in Colts
Hugh Jackson ... winger U18 North Adel avg 35 disposals (Tom Powell like)
Josh Browne ... East Freo colts mid avg 30 disposals
Tom Brown .... 186cm half-back with Murray Bushrangers (son of Geelong's Paul but not eligible for the Cast)
https://www.afl.com.au/news/629256/listen-road-to-the-draft-the-whispers-are-getting-louder-who-is-getting-all-of-the-draft-buzz
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Take whoever's clean, composed and can stick tackles... :shh
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Who's available between 8-12 this year?
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Who's available between 8-12 this year?
3 posts up.
http://oneeyed-richmond.com/forum/index.php?topic=30702.msg700239#msg700239
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Connor McDonald plays for the Stingrays looks a likely type.
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AFL Draft - June's Power Rankings:
ESPN.com.au's AFL Draft expert Chris Doerre has revealed his AFL Draft Power Rankings for the month of June, with young Nick Daicos beginning to put a gap on his rivals.
1. Nick Daicos
2. Jason Horne
3. Tyler Sonsie
4. Matthew Roberts
5. Sam Darcy
6. Josh Rachele
7. Josh Sinn
8. Connor MacDonald
9. Bodhi Uwland
10. Hugh Jackson
11. Finn Callaghan
12. Matthew Johnson
13. Neil Erasmus
14. Ned Long
15. Josh Fahey
16. Mac Andrew
17. Jacob Van Rooyen
18. Jack Williams
19. Josh Gibcus
20. Toby Conway
Full summaries of each draftee here: https://www.espn.com.au/afl/story/_/id/31580058/afl-draft-2021-phantom-draft-power-rankings-june-nick-daicos-pulling-away-chasing-pack
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Richmond's draft hand as it stands is picks 11, 16, 24, 29, 40, 47 and 83.
https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/afl-draft-2021-indicative-draft-order-after-round-13/news-story/9465263035070e01967c527ce5805541
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Connor McDonald plays for the Stingrays looks a likely type.
8. Connor MacDonald
As a goalkicking midfielder, McDonald has several weapons. A strong contested ball winner and tackler, McDonald is a high-volume ball winner and combines this with acceleration, a high work rate and good skills. When used forward of centre, MacDonald presents an aerial marking threat and hits the scoreboard, averaging one goal per game so far in the NAB League despite playing predominantly through the midfield.
https://www.espn.com.au/afl/story/_/id/31580058/afl-draft-2021-phantom-draft-power-rankings-june-nick-daicos-pulling-away-chasing-pack
Sounds great to me.
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https://www.afl.com.au/news/632305/twomey-s-draft-team-of-the-year-wa-goalkickers-on-target-saint-s-brother-in
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Why doesn’t this Twomey character rate Connor McDonald?
I’m not sure how a kid can be in the top 10 for “power rankings” which means he is ahead of the other players he’s mentioned but he isn’t named in twomeys top 25? Strange.
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Current draft picks per club:
Richmond has a very strong draft hand that will make it a dangerous proposition in this year's Trade Period. The Tigers currently hold four picks inside the first 30 selections, including picks 11 and 16 (tied to Geelong after a swap of first-round picks during last year's national draft).
Richmond 11, 16, 25, 30, 40, 48
Adelaide 7, 26, 37, 62, 63
Brisbane 15, 18, 49, 52, 59, 73
Carlton 5, 24, 60
Collingwood 36, 41, 44, 45
Essendon 9, 46, 51
Fremantle 8, 27
Geelong 28, 29, 35, 53
Gold Coast 3, 19, 22, 42, 55, 58, 64
GWS 4, 10, 47, 65
Hawthorn 2, 21, 23, 56, 66
Melbourne 34, 39, 54,
North Melb. 1, 20, 38, 70
Port Adel. 14, 57, 69, 71
St Kilda 6, 43, 61
Sydney 13, 32, 68
West Coast 12, 31, 33, 50, 67
W.Bulldogs 17, 72
https://www.afl.com.au/news/634717/indicative-draft-order-dees-genius-trade-tigers-strong-hand
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Cal Twomey's Phantom Form Guide: Best draft prospects ranked (June 30)
nb. Remember this is not a mock draft – it is our rankings of the best players and does not take into account where father-son or Academy bids could come.
1. Nick Daicos (Coll F/S) ........ Midfielder 183cm/72kg 3/1/03 Oakleigh Chargers/Vic Metro
2. Jason Horne ..................... Midfielder 183cm/77kg 21/6/03 South Adelaide/South Australia
3. Sam Darcy (Dogs F/S) ....... Forward/defender 204cm/75kg 19/7/03 Oakleigh Chargers/Vic Metro
4. Finn Callaghan .................. Midfielder 189cm/82kg 26/4/03 Sandringham Dragons/Vic Metro
5. Ben Hobbs ....................... Midfielder 183cm/80kg 16/9/03 Greater Western Victoria Rebels/Vic Country
6. Josh Gibcus ...................... Key defender 195cm/84kg 4/4/03 Greater Western Victoria Rebels/Vic Country
7. Josh Rachele .................... Forward/midfielder 180cm/78kg 11/4/03 Murray Bushrangers/Vic Country
8. Josh Sinn ......................... Half-back/midfielder 186cm/73kg 7/1/03 Sandringham Dragons/Vic Metro
9. Matthew Roberts ............... Midfielder/forward 183cm/81kg 31/7/03 South Adelaide/South Australia
10. Arlo Draper ..................... Midfielder/forward 185cm/71kg 20/1/03 South Adelaide/South Australia
11. Matthew Sonsie ............... Midfielder 181cm/77kg 27/1/03 Eastern Ranges/Vic Metro
12. Mac Andrew .................... Ruckman 200cm/70kg 12/4/03 Dandenong Stingrays/Vic Country
13. Campbell Chesser ............ Midfielder/defender 186cm/83kg 27/4/03 Sandringham Dragons/Vic Country
14. Neil Eramus .................... Midfielder/forward 188cm/80kg 2/12/03 Subiaco/Western Australia
15. Matthew Johnson ......,...... Midfielder 192cm/80kg 16/3/03 Subiaco/Western Australia
16. Jye Amiss ....................... Key forward 195cm/83kg 31/7/03 East Perth/Western Australia
17. Josh Ward ...................... Midfielder 181cm/79kg 15/8/03 Northern Knights/Vic Metro
18. Jack Williams .................. Key forward 195cm/91kg 1/12/03 East Fremantle/Western Australia
19. Sam Butler .................... Midfielder/forward 184cm/73kg 10/2/03 Greater Western Victoria Rebels/Vic Country
20. Darcy Wilmot ................. Defender 183cm/75kg 31/12/03 Northern Knights/Vic Metro
Full summary of each potential draftee here: https://www.afl.com.au/news/639253/cal-twomeys-phantom-form-guide-june-update-best-players-in-the-2021-nab-afl-draft-ranked
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https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/2021-provisional-draft-order-live-based-on-current-ladder.1251001/page-5#post-70906222
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How does it work for the dogs matching for Darcy when they have hardly any points?
Obviously they can trade to get picks , but if they don’t have enough is it bad luck ?
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Only positive tonight is we now have pick 7 as our first pick.
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Pick 7. Hope theres a good mid there
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Use it. Don't trade it please.
In fact use all our picks and trade any dead weight for picks to upgrade our picks.
Only bloke I wanna trade in is Green +/- Taranto if he wants to come home.
Trade:
George
CJ
Chol
KMac
Not sure anyone else has currency if anything.
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Only one of that lot worth anything is CJ. We’d have to pay to have the others taken away
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WEAK DRAFT?
David Zita reports …
Foxsports
14 July 2021
List managers believe this year’s draft intake is one of the weakest in years.
Aside from the top few selections, draft experts don’t see many key position prospects and say there are hardly any ruckmen beyond the top 10.
Of course, the national championships later this year will flush out some more talent, but one list manager told foxfooty.com.au: “It’s not the year to stockpile lots of draft picks as it falls off a cliff.”
The draft combine has also changed structure, list managers were told this week. Traditionally the multi-day event at Marvel Stadium would include an assortment of physical tests as well as interviews.
But this year’s edition has been shortened and will just see players interviewed by clubs – among other smaller tasks. It means there will be no 20m sprint, kicking test or even a 2km time trial.
Source: Foxsports (https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/department-of-trade/afl-trade-news-rumours-whispers-brisbane-lions-salary-cap-ollie-hanrahan-geelong-callum-colemanjones-essendon-mason-cox-contract/news-story/b32853b85f58762361e03940dc4d25a0)
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That'd be right.
Supposed to be strong after a compromised 2020.
The real problem is we have too many teams and there's not enough elite talent to go around.
Hope we nail it this year. You can always find diamonds in the rough.
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..or we could just chuck it all at Cerra & Green instead... :shh
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The same managers were saying it was a strong draft not long ago . We thought It was , it was the reason we sold our draft picks off last year . Could it be that we are after a certain type of player.
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Here the same everyyear weake draft super draft etc you do your homework good recruiters pand good picks players are there.
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The player your AFL club should consider taking with their first draft pick
Ben Waterworth
Fox Sports
23 July 2021
RICHMOND
Draft picks: 10, 16, 27, 29, 42, 47
List state of play: With the likes of Trent Cotchin, Dustin Martin, Shane Edwards, Kane Lambert and Dion Prestia on the list, the Tigers haven’t used a lot of early draft picks on midfielders in recent years outside of Riley Collier-Dawkins in 2018. But with the Tigers ranked 18th for clearance differential and 16th for scoring differential from stoppages this season, the time has come for the Tigers to recruit some young on-ballers. And they couldn’t be better placed to do so with two first-round picks for a midfield-heavy draft. Or they could use those two picks in the trade period if they wanted to secure a star on-baller from a rival club, such as Adam Cerra or Tom Mitchell.
Ideal draft prospects: If the Tigers don’t trade away their two first-rounders, there’s an array of midfielders for them waiting at the draft table. South Adelaide duo Arlo Draper and Matthew Roberts, who both showed brilliant form at SANFL Under 18s level this season before copping injuries, would be in their zone, as would Northern Knights on-baller Josh Ward. The other option would be to package those two first-rounders and offer them to a club with an earlier pick – such as the Giants or Suns – so they can target one of the draft class’ top on-ballers, like a Ben Hobbs or Finn Callaghan.
https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/draft/afl-draft-news-2021-nick-daicos-sam-darcy-jason-horne-josh-rachele-player-your-club-should-pick-first/news-story/ca669edd55a419ded1a043a793ba0703
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Ben Hobbs looks like a gun would love him. The kid Lohman from the Rebels be a good late pick also
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So if pies finish last they get pick 1 and also Daicos?
How does that set up work?
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Pies traded their 1st pick to GWS and got in a head of 2nd round picks to Daicos.
If Pies finish bottom or even 2nd bottom, it'll be the worst trade in the history of the game. Because they absolutely would have got Pick 1 and left Daicos for 2nd round pick, or if they finished 2nd bottom Pick 1 I'd say wouldn't have risked losing out on Horne who looks like an absolute generational player. But regardless where they finish GWS get their first pick so sucked in Pies.
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Cal Twomey's Phantom Form Guide: Best draft prospects ranked (July 28)
nb. Remember this is not a mock draft – it is our rankings of the best players and does not take into account where father-son or Academy bids could come.
1. Nick Daicos (Coll F/S) ........ Midfielder 183cm/72kg 3/1/03 Oakleigh Chargers/Vic Metro
2. Jason Horne ..................... Midfielder 183cm/77kg 21/6/03 South Adelaide/South Australia
3. Sam Darcy (Dogs F/S) ....... Forward/defender 204cm/75kg 19/7/03 Oakleigh Chargers/Vic Metro
4. Finn Callaghan .................. Midfielder 189cm/82kg 26/4/03 Sandringham Dragons/Vic Metro
5. Ben Hobbs ....................... Midfielder 183cm/80kg 16/9/03 Greater Western Victoria Rebels/Vic Country
6. Josh Gibcus ...................... Key defender 195cm/84kg 4/4/03 Greater Western Victoria Rebels/Vic Country
7. Josh Rachele .................... Forward/midfielder 180cm/78kg 11/4/03 Murray Bushrangers/Vic Country
8. Mac Andrew .................... Ruckman 200cm/70kg 12/4/03 Dandenong Stingrays/Vic Country (+4)
9. Neil Eramus .................... Midfielder/forward 188cm/80kg 2/12/03 Subiaco/Western Australia (+5)
10. Josh Ward ...................... Midfielder 181cm/79kg 15/8/03 Northern Knights/Vic Metro (+7)
11. Tyler Sonsie .................... Midfielder 181cm/77kg 27/1/03 Eastern Ranges/Vic Metro
12. Arlo Draper ..................... Midfielder/forward 185cm/71kg 20/1/03 South Adelaide/South Australia (-2)
13. Josh Sinn ......................... Half-back/midfielder 186cm/73kg 7/1/03 Sandringham Dragons/Vic Metro (-5)
14. Campbell Chesser ............ Midfielder/defender 186cm/83kg 27/4/03 Sandringham Dragons/Vic Country (-1)
15. Matthew Roberts ............... Midfielder/forward 183cm/81kg 31/7/03 South Adelaide/South Australia (-6)
16. Matthew Johnson ......,...... Midfielder 192cm/80kg 16/3/03 Subiaco/Western Australia (-1)
17. Jye Amiss ....................... Key forward 195cm/83kg 31/7/03 East Perth/Western Australia (-1)
18. Sam Butler .................... Midfielder/forward 184cm/73kg 10/2/03 Greater Western Victoria Rebels/Vic Country (+1)
19. Darcy Wilmot ................. Defender 183cm/75kg 31/12/03 Northern Knights/Vic Metro (+1)
20. Tom Brown .................... Defender 186cm/71kg 30/7/03 Murray Bushrangers/Vic Country (new)
18. Jack Williams .................. Key forward 195cm/91kg 1/12/03 East Fremantle/Western Australia (-3)
22. Josh Goater .................... Midfielder 190cm/79kg 2/6/03 Calder Cannons/Vic Metro (new)
23. Toby Conway .................. Ruckman 204cm/90kg 24/4/03 Geelong Falcons/Vic Country (new)
24. Jesse Motlop ................... Forward 176cm/74kg 23/11/03 South Fremantle/Western Australia (new)
25. Hugh Jackson ................. Midfielder 181cm/70kg 3/5/03 North Adelaide/South Australia (new)
Full summary of each potential draftee here: https://www.afl.com.au/news/654556/july-update-cal-twomeys-phantom-form-guide-best-draft-prospects-ranked
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https://www.afl.com.au/news/655192/twomey-s-draft-team-of-the-year-two-vics-out-wa-prospect-returns-in-style
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https://www.afl.com.au/news/659302/twomey-s-draft-team-of-the-year-nga-saint-steps-up-cannons-mid-firing
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Richmond are keen to refresh their playing list with youth, having the club’s best draft hand for more than a decade, including what may be a top 10 pick (their own), Geelong’s first-round pick and a further two selections, St Kilda’s and their own, in the second round of the national draft.
Source: The Age (https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/cerra-favours-blues-if-he-leaves-dockers-tigers-not-keen-20210811-p58hvv.html)
We currently have picks: 9, 16, 26, 27, 41, 45, 81, 97, ...
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Draft Central Power Rankings: August 2021
Michael Alvaro
afldraftcentreal.com.au
August 2021
#1 Nick Daicos (COL F/S) Oakleigh Chargers/Vic Metro | Midfielder 3/01/2003 | 183cm | 72kg July Ranking: #2
#2 Jason Horne South Adelaide/South Australia | Midfielder 21/06/2003 | 184cm | 78kg July Ranking: #1
#3 Finn Callaghan Sandy Dragons/Vic Metro | Balanced Midfielder 26/04/2003 | 189cm | 82kg July Ranking: #4
#4 Sam Darcy (WB F/S) Oakleigh Chargers/Vic Metro| Tall Utility/Ruck 19/08/2003 | 204cm | 75kg July Ranking: #3
#5 Ben Hobbs GWV Rebels/Vic Country | Inside Midfielder 16/09/2003 | 183cm | 80kg July Ranking: #10
#6 Mac Andrew (MEL NGA) Dandy Stingrays/Vic Ctry | Ruck/Tall Utility 12/04/2003 | 200cm | 70kg July Ranking: #15
#7 Josh Gibcus GWV Rebels/Vic Country | Tall Defender 4/04/2003 | 195cm | 84kg July Ranking: #9
#8 Josh Ward Northern Knights/Vic Metro | Midfielder 15/08/2003 | 181cm | 79kg July Ranking: #19
#9 Neil Erasmus Subiaco/Western Australia | Midfielder/Forward 2/12/2003 | 188cm | 80kg July Ranking: #12
#10 Tyler Sonsie Eastern Ranges/Vic Metro | Midfielder 27/01/2003 | 181cm | 76kg July Ranking: #5
#11 Josh Sinn Sandy Dragons/Vic Metro | Half-Back/Midfielder 7/01/2003 | 186cm | 82kg July Ranking: #6
#12 Matthew Roberts South Adelaide/SA | Midfielder/Forward 31/07/2003 | 183cm | 81kg July Ranking: #7
#13 Josh Rachele Murray Bushrangers/Vic Ctry | Forward/Midfielder 11/04/2003 | 180cm | 78kg July Ranking: #13
#14 Arlo Draper South Adelaide/SA| Midfielder/Forward 20/01/2003 | 185cm | 71kg July Ranking: #14
#15 Matthew Johnson Subiaco/WA | Inside Midfielder 16/03/2003 | 193cm | 80kg July Ranking: #11
#16 Campbell Chesser Sandy Dragons/Vic Ctry | Balanced Midfielder 27/04/2003 | 186cm | 83kg July Ranking: #8
#17 Josh Goater Calder Cannons/Vic Metro | Midfielder 2/06/2003 | 190cm | 79kg July Ranking: #17
#18 Darcy Wilmot Northern Knights/Vic Metro | Small Defender 31/12/2003 | 182cm | 70kg July Ranking: #24
#19 Jye Amiss East Perth/Western Australia | Tall Forward 31/07/2003 | 195cm | 85kg July Ranking: NR
#20 Jack Williams East Fremantle/WA | Tall Forward/Ruck 1/12/2003 | 195cm | 91kg July Ranking: #18
#21 Josh Fahey GWS GIANTS Academy/Allies | Medium Defender 11/11/2003 | 186cm | 76kg July Ranking: #16
#22 Tom Brown Murray Bushrangers/Vic Ctry | Medium Defender 30/07/2003 | 186cm | 71kg July Ranking: NR
#23 Joshua Browne East Fremantle/Western Australia | Midfielder 3/01/2003 | 185cm | 77kg July Ranking: #23
#24 Sam Butler GWV Rebels/Vic Country | Forward/Midfielder 10/02/2003 | 184cm | 73kg July Ranking: NR
#25 Judson Clarke Dandy Stingrays/Vic Ctry | Small Forward/Mid 17/10/2003 | 179cm | 69kg July Ranking: NR
IN THE MIX:
State trial games in South and Western Australia have seen a number of players rise into contention, or at least confirm their status as genuine prospects. Nasiah Wanganeen-Milera was a standout in the South Australian trial, which was played in horrendous conditions, but did little to diminish his class and poise on the ball. Lewis Rayson was another to show a bit in that game with his run on the outer, while midfielder Hugh Jackson could be around the mark on the back of his tremendous SANFL Under 18s campaign to date. Meanwhile, Cooper Murley, who suffered a collarbone injury last month, was unlucky to be squeezed out.
Over in Western Australia, big-bodied midfielder Kade Dittmar has dominated his state’s trial games, as the likes of Corey Warner and Fremantle NGA product Jesse Motlop rise on the back of their respective League debuts. Luke Polson was the most recent WA Under 19s squad member to crack the senior grade, proving a mobile key position utility who isn’t afraid to run with the ball. Fellow talls Rhett Bazzo and Jacob van Rooyen have also had their moments with the latter even swinging to defence recently, but find themselves out of the 25 this time around.
A bunch of NAB Leaguers continue to knock the door down too, with crafty Vic Metro ball magnets Zac Taylor and Jake Soligo among them. Connor Macdonald fits in a similar category and has been terrific this season, while fellow Vic Country representative Mitch Knevitt has a bunch of traits which may put advance his standing as a big-bodied midfielder. Athletic wing-forward Blake Howes continues to float around the mark, while Sandringham teammates and St Kilda NGA hopefuls Mitch Owens and Marcus Windhager have been big improvers over the last few weeks. Collingwood NGA Youseph Dib has also stood up valiantly for Oakleigh this year.
Read the full detailed summaries here: https://afl.draftcentral.com.au/2021/08/02/draft-central-power-rankings-august-2021/?fbclid=IwAR3R595QeL_pYLxM65ROJGYwXHU_jMrpRkZR2wRaLJ1XVLhOUMzarzK-xjA
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Butler's brother Sam sounds promising...listed as 8cm taller than Dan but a similar burst of speed and goal sense, moved to the midfield this year and impressed with his ground game...so possibly harder than his brother and hopefully more one-touch...can lay a tackle just like his brother used to be able to before he settled for the goosey loosey life....
https://afl.draftcentral.com.au/2021/06/16/nab-league-player-focus-sam-butler-gwv-rebels/
:shh
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https://www.afl.com.au/news/663215/twomey-s-draft-team-of-the-year-another-panther-on-the-prowl-wa-sharpshooter-in
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By a Hawks fan.
Phantom Draft - August 10th (Prediction for what clubs may do)
1. NM - Jason Horne
2. Coll - (bid) Nick Daicos
3. Western - (bid) Sam Darcy
4. Adel - Finn Callaghan
5. GWS - Josh Sinn
6. Haw - Josh Goater
7. GC - Ben Hobbs
8. Carl - Matthew Johnson
9. Frem - Neil Erasmus
10. StK - Matthew Roberts
11. GWS - (bid) Josh Fahey
12. Rich - Jye Amiss
13. Ess - Mitch Knevitt
14. WCE - Josh Ward
15. Syd - Jacob Van Rooyen
16. Bris - Josh Gibcus
17. Port - Josh Rachele
18. Rich - Mac Andrew
19. Bris - Tyler Sonsie
20. GC - Campbell Chesser
21. NM - Arlo Draper
22. Adel - Hugh Jackson
23. Haw - Ned Long
24. Haw - Connor MacDonald
25. GC - Joshua Browne
26. Carl - Nasiah Wanganeen-Milera
27. Frem - Jack Williams
28. Rich - Jake Soligo
29. Rich - Darcy Wilmot
30. Geel - Toby Conway
https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/davo-27s-2021-u18-draft-thread.1252633/page-19
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Time to put my focus into the draft!
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I’ve heard some good things about Connor McDonald.
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This is where the action is now people....get on board.... :shh
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Time to bring in 6 youngsters. I wouldnt trade any of our picjs. Go to the draft and get a new generation of kids.
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Time to bring in 6 youngsters. I wouldnt trade any of our picjs. Go to the draft and get a new generation of kids.
Said it from day one with the picks and hand we got kids are there.
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Time to bring in 6 youngsters. I wouldnt trade any of our picjs. Go to the draft and get a new generation of kids.
Yes. 100% agree
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I'm all for hitting the draft hard but still think we badly need another ready to go clearance player/extractor too....Dunstan FA won't effect our hand ..ready made KPD's too but we can easily find decent experienced ones - better than Garthwaite at least- in the state leagues...hope we're still looking at Tom Green's brother as a rookie too.... have a feeling we're considering giving Freeman a lifeline after Hardwick mentioned him a few weeks ago... :shh
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We need some genuine ball winners in the guts hopefully we can find some.
At the moment our future stocks are not very exciting. Besides Bolton we don’t have much coming through.
CCJ - looks ok but occasionally pulls out of contests.
RCD - I’m not convinced on all I have seen so far. I’ve got the occasional soft vibe from him and nothing he’s done fills me with any warm fuzzy feeling to rest on moving forward. Looks to be an ordinary battler fringe player from the games he’s played.
Dow - looks like he’s a bit of a panic merchant. He also hasn’t done anything that fills me with much hope.
Martyn - I think he’s still cleaning the skiddies from his undies from that one game he played.
Ross - if we can’t get the original back then move the kid on.
Chol - no tank, no ticker and no footy brain.
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Other than CCj and possibly RCD the rest are pretty average.
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Dow has shown AFL traits...kids are going to be up & down ..don't forget it's also effectively the first season proper for the likes of him & Ralphsmith after a year of scratch matches....RCD also lost a year of development, shown he can play...as implied Ross just needs to bulk up again and be moved back on the ball....would've re-signed him before Martyn with that in mind... :shh
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Actually thought CCJ looked pretty decent in the ruck tonight too btw.... :shh
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Hardwick post-game last night:
"From my point of view it will primarily be the draft. That's not say that talent we admire we won't bring in but our list management team Blair Hartley and Matty Clarke did a wonderful job last year probably realising we had some talent we weren't playing last year at this stage and so banked a pick. We've got that pick this year."
6:20 min mark: https://www.richmondfc.com.au/video/999796/round-22-hardwick-post-match
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LISTEN: Who are the top 40 draft prospects?
Cal Twomey reveals the NAB AFL Draft prospects climbing up the ranks.
This week's episode guide…
0:45 – We go in-depth on the four tall forward prospects who enjoyed big games in Western Australia last weekend and an update on the NAB AFL Under-19 Championships.
3:30 – Which Victorian prospects will be playing this week in the NAB League?
5:50 – Cal breaks down the top flight of the draft class this season with a closer look at the top-10 chances.
8:30 – Which players need big national carnivals to boost their chances of being an early pick?
10:00 – We name the top-40 players in the draft pool and the prospect with great bloodlines who is shooting up the ranks.
14:15 – South Adelaide midfielder Arlo Draper joins the show for a chat.
Listen here: https://www.afl.com.au/news/663077/listen-who-are-the-top-40-draft-prospects-
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Our current drafts picks: 8, 17, 25, 26, 40, 44, 80, 98, ....
17 - Geelong's 1st.
25 - St Kilda's 2nd.
40 - Gold Coast's 3rd.
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Fully expect the club to use at lease those top 6.
If they nail this one then it will set us up for 5-10 years.
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I’ve heard some good things about Connor McDonald.
Apparently Hawks and Brisbane in to him big time.
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Our current drafts picks: 8, 16, 26, 27, 41, 45, 81, 99, ....
16 - Geelong's 1st.
26 - St Kilda's 2nd.
41 - Gold Coast's 3rd.
If the Saints win today then it would change to 7, 16, 26, 27, 41, 44, 80, 98, ...
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If the Saints win today then it would change to 7, 16, 26, 27, 41, 44, 80, 98, ...
They won't though, as Freo need to win to get into the top 8, although they could fall out again if Dons best Pies.
Shame the Dons/Pies game isn't first so that Freo have nothing to play for.
Anyway I'm hoping the saints have a crack for no reason.
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Pick 7 for us.
I can’t believe we lost to some of these teams freo, suns etc
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HOLD ONTO PICK 7 RICHMOND
DO NOT TRADE IT! USE IT!
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I want to upgrade it. Trade it with a player or another pick for a top 3 or 4 pick.
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Will be about pick 10 after bids... :shh
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It will defs go down 1 after the pies match the bid for daicos. Not sure if there are any other top10 touted academy/father son picks.
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It will defs go down 1 after the pies match the bid for daicos. Not sure if there are any other top10 touted academy/father son picks.
Darcy for Dogs
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Update: Thanks Saints!
Our current picks: 7, 16, 26, 27, 41, 44, 80, 98, ...
16 - Geelong's 1st.
27 - St Kilda's 2nd.
41 - Gold Coast's 3rd.
The bonus now would be the Cats having a shocker in the finals and going out in straight sets :pray. Geelong's first pick could end up anywhere between 13 and 18.
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Time for a mock draft. Anybody got any ideas?
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Have a look on Bigfooty, there’s a few phantom drafts including links to other phantom drafts
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Time for a mock draft. Anybody got any ideas?
Here's one by a Giants fan on BF's draft board:
(https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/attachments/end-of-ha-1-png.1213938/)
(https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/attachments/end-of-ha-2-png.1213940/)
More than I ever I feel the need to reiterate that this is not indicative of my personal rankings, no those are all over the shop currently, literally disgusting. But yeah this is a quick crack at a top 50 picks phantom, I feel like I hit most needs but I'm sure I'm wrong along the line somewhere. What I will say is how tempting it was to include some overagers throughout but not really being able to balance up where to put them. I've mentioned Leek Alleer before, late on the bandwagon, but I could certainly see him going before Rhett Bazzo. Also considered Luke Cleary, Jack Briskey, Sam Paea and Saxon Crozier at different points, but just went benefit of the doubt to the 18-year-olds.
https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/pmbangers-2021-draft-board.1258182/page-28#post-71751422
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Mac Andrew? So we going for another ruckman? Unless we lose both Chol and CCj I doubt that very much
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https://www.espn.com.au/afl/story/_/id/31999737/afl-draft-2021-chris-doerre-knightmare-weekly-wrap-top-pick-contender-jason-horne-stuns-again-sanfl-south-adelaide-panthers
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Question for Knightmare (Chris Doere), who would be the best inside mid that can fall to our [Richmond's] first pick?
Matthew Roberts would be a ripper and could well be available. He's a year one ready mid and the bonus is he can also push forward.
Josh Ward is the other one I really like around that choice for Richmond and would be carefully weighing up if there also, although he's more of a balanced mid who looks just as good outside as he does inside, rather than a pure inside mid.
I wonder if Richmond will have a look now that Astbury has retired?
Schlensog and Skinner respectively would be great gets. Richmond are one of a few clubs who could use either of them.
Are there many midfielders in the 7-10 range?
Inside the top-10, probably 8 midfielders. The draft is lean on good talls.
https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/knightmares-2021-draft-almanac.1257391/page-69#post-71657122
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Mac Andrew? So we going for another ruckman? Unless we lose both Chol and CCj I doubt that very much
Not a very well thought out pick for us. Josh Ward much more likely
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Lol , have a look at all the other mock drafts on Bigfooty, this the only one that mentions we will take a ruckman, I would expect us to take a mid or a key backman
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Have heard we are into Kai Lohman big time.
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Our current picks (from the AFL website):
Richmond: 7, 16, 26, 28, 40, 44, 80, 98
16 - Geelong's 1st.
28 - St Kilda's 2nd.
40 - Gold Coast's 3rd.
https://www.afl.com.au/news/669893/indicative-draft-order-top-10-locked-in-your-club-s-picks
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Pick 7 – Richmond
After achieving the ultimate success three times over across the last four years, Tigers fans will again be amongst those invested in what the top 10 has to offer come draft time. This promises to be their earliest pick since taking Nick Vlaustin at number nine in 2012 and while there has been a steady influx since, Richmond can now look towards pure list needs at the end of its dynasty.
Retirees Bachar Houli and David Astbury leave running and key position slots to fill in defence, with the likes of Josh Sinn and Josh Gibcus perfect fits for either mould. We know the Tigers love a Northern Knights graduate, so Josh Ward would be a good shout with Trent Cotchin winding down, though Ben Hobbs would be hard to pass up if available. Neil Erasmus and Matthew Roberts are other reliable ball winning midfielders in contention, along with Tyler Sonsie who has a point of difference.
https://afl.draftcentral.com.au/2021/08/23/indicative-draft-order-whos-in-the-top-10-mix/
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Our first pick will slip to #9 with bids on Daicos & Darcy.
(https://cdn.draftcentral.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2021/08/DC-Power-Rankings-web-update-1024x539.jpg)
https://afl.draftcentral.com.au/2021/08/02/draft-central-power-rankings-august-2021/
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Bidding system a joke as usual.
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Bidding system a joke as usual.
I think the father/son rule is one of the best and most unique things in our game. I’m sure you wouldn’t feel the same way if one of our father-son prospects was projected to go top 5 and he ended up playing for a different club just because we didn’t have a pick available.
The academy rules on the other hand….
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Hobbs is the one.
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Hobbs is the one.
Agree 100% on Hobbs.
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How does Collingwood bid on Nick Daicos when their first pick isn’t until 30 something. Surely they don’t have enough points to match a pick no.1?
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They need to trade for picks or points are subtracted from next year I believe
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How does Collingwood bid on Nick Daicos when their first pick isn’t until 30 something. Surely they don’t have enough points to match a pick no.1?
If there's a bid for Daicos at pick 1 then that's worth 3000 draft points minus the 20% discount for F/S. So that's 2400 points the Pies will need to find.
In terms of draft points from their existing picks:
#33 is worth 563
#39 -------> 446
#41 -------> 412
#45 -------> 347
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Total -----> 1768
So the Pies will need to find another 632 points. Which roughly equates to pick 29.
So they will either need to swap their future 2nd rounder or a decent player for another club's combo of a 2nd and/or 3rd rounders.
[Not saying we should help them out]:
For example we could trade both our 3rd rounders 40 & 44 (worth 791 points combined === approx. pick 23 or 24) for their future 2nd rounder hoping the Pies finish bottom 5 next year.
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They also have the option to go into a points deficit which would then push back their first round pick next year as well... :shh
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They also have the option to go into a points deficit which would then push back their first round pick next year as well... :shh
That would be hilarious if they did that. Finish bottom 2 again next year and miss again on the best talent by getting pushed back into the late first round :lol.
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Some suggestions doing the rounds along those lines of us trading with the Dogs to get another pick inside the first round.
The Dogs only need the points to get Darcy. The suggestion was we swap our picks 28, 40 & 44 for their first (currently pick 14).
That would leave us with four picks rather than six but we'd have four picks inside the top 26: .... 7, 14, 16, 26.
Thoughts?
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Not a bad idea if it comes off
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Sounds like a win win situation.
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lock it in eddie
where is it doing the rounds exactly? Sheehan, Tom brown, big footy?
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lock it in eddie
where is it doing the rounds exactly? Sheehan, Tom brown, big footy?
Definitely not the first two :snidegrin.
Saw it on BF and somewhere on twitter/facebook. It was just a supporter's idea. There's no source linking it back to the RFC.
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Some suggestions doing the rounds along those lines of us trading with the Dogs to get another pick inside the first round.
The Dogs only need the points to get Darcy. The suggestion was we swap our picks 28, 40 & 44 for their first (currently pick 14).
That would leave us with four picks rather than six but we'd have four picks inside the top 26: .... 7, 14, 16, 26.
Thoughts?
Depends on how many they need.
Pick 69 also coming our way and I'd say yes.
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Some suggestions doing the rounds along those lines of us trading with the Dogs to get another pick inside the first round.
The Dogs only need the points to get Darcy. The suggestion was we swap our picks 28, 40 & 44 for their first (currently pick 14).
That would leave us with four picks rather than six but we'd have four picks inside the top 26: .... 7, 14, 16, 26.
Thoughts?
Depends on how many they need.
Pick 69 also coming our way and I'd say yes.
Yeah 69 would be a nice little bonus
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Some suggestions doing the rounds along those lines of us trading with the Dogs to get another pick inside the first round.
The Dogs only need the points to get Darcy. The suggestion was we swap our picks 28, 40 & 44 for their first (currently pick 14).
That would leave us with four picks rather than six but we'd have four picks inside the top 26: .... 7, 14, 16, 26.
Thoughts?
Depends on how many they need.
Pick 69 also coming our way and I'd say yes.
Yeah 69 would be a nice little bonus
Cant beat a good 69
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Footage and discussion of promising talls in the draft by Mitch Cleary and Nat Edwards.
Jack Williams (forward/ruck from WA)
Matt Johnson (192cm tall midfield from WA)
Mac Andrew (ruck/utility from Dandy Stringrays)
Watch: https://www.afl.com.au/video/670289/recruiters-eye-off-tall-wa-weapon-the-ruck-who-moves-like-nic-nat
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A poster on BF saying there's a bit of chatter linking us to Josh Ward from the Northern Knights.
Looks like he got that off the AFL website but I can't find the link:
"Northern Knights midfielder Josh Ward as arguably the most unlucky player to miss out in this selection of picks. He has proven a consistent ball winner with a terrific appetite for the contest and developing impact away from it, and would be a player the likes of Richmond and Carlton consider."
(https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/attachments/screenshot_20210826-135518_nab-league-jpg.1217349/)
Josh Ward
Northern Knights/Vic Metro | Midfielder
15/08/2003 | 181cm | 79kg
August ranking #8
July Ranking: #19
Snapshot: A classy midfielder who is capable of winning mountains of possessions, Ward proves a centre bounce mainstay with his clean skills and work rate.
Having started the year on the precipice, Ward has broken into and consolidated his spot among the 2021 crop’s top 25 places. The Northern Knights midfielder is one who works hard both ways and gets stuck in at the contest, able to win his own ball and distribute with clean skills to the outer. He is also beginning to showcase his own traits on the outside and can impact while resting forward, but holds clear value as a reliable ball winner at the stoppages. A Vic Metro representative at Under 16 level, Ward is destined for the same honours as a rising draft eligible Under 19 talent this year.
Last month:
Ward has really accelerated into top 10 contention on the back of some irresistible form, which translated well from NAB League level to the representative stage. He started the month of July with another excellent showing, racking up a game-high 34 disposals and eight tackles in Northern’s loss to Murray on the road, but truly shone as he lead Vic Metro to a thumping win over Country the following week. Ward starred with 29 touches, eight clearances and two classy goals to put himself right up there with the best; showcasing his leadership quality, tenacity at the contest, work-rate away from it, and improving ability to hurt the opposition going forward.
(https://cdn.draftcentral.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2021/04/NK-Josh-Ward-1024x683.jpg)
https://afl.draftcentral.com.au/2021/08/02/draft-central-power-rankings-august-2021/
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Wouldn't mind few midfielders 185cm plus get a bit of height in there.
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Wouldn't mind few midfielders 185cm plus get a bit of height in there.
me too.
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I just want them to draft a big inside ball magnet who actually effing tackles.
Not another 180cm bruise free outsider (ie cheap possies)
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Happy to take the best mid available with our first pick.
Size doesn’t seem to matter as much as it used to!
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Q. Knightmare what two mids would best suit Richmond say circa pick 9 and pick 18 odd
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Any of Hobbs, Ward, Roberts or Erasmus at your first.
Any of Rachelle, Sinn, Chesser or Goater at your second.
https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/knightmares-2021-draft-almanac.1257391/post-71823644
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Wouldn't mind few midfielders 185cm plus get a bit of height in there.
RCD 189
Ross and Martyn 186
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Q. Knightmare what two mids would best suit Richmond say circa pick 9 and pick 18 odd
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Any of Hobbs, Ward, Roberts or Erasmus at your first.
Any of Rachelle, Sinn, Chesser or Goater at your second.
https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/knightmares-2021-draft-almanac.1257391/post-71823644
The 4 quoted at the first pick all seem potentially good. How can we get a pick or two extra at the head of the draft
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Update: Thanks Saints!
Our current picks: 7, 16, 26, 27, 41, 44, 80, 98, ...
16 - Geelong's 1st.
27 - St Kilda's 2nd.
41 - Gold Coast's 3rd.
The bonus now would be the Cats having a shocker in the finals and going out in straight sets :pray. Geelong's first pick could end up anywhere between 13 and 18.
:shh
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Update: Thanks Saints!
Our current picks: 7, 16, 26, 27, 41, 44, 80, 98, ...
16 - Geelong's 1st.
27 - St Kilda's 2nd.
41 - Gold Coast's 3rd.
The bonus now would be the Cats having a shocker in the finals and going out in straight sets :pray. Geelong's first pick could end up anywhere between 13 and 18.
:shh
:pray
Don't want to mozz it ;D but the loser tonight plays the winner of the Sydney derby. The Cats lost to both this year :shh.
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Looking good for p13 i reckon.
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Looking good for p13 i reckon.
I reckon a team like Sydney or GWS will flay them alive next weekend.
Will be too fast and too fit.
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Live stream WA v SA featuring a few of the talls we might be looking at like Van Rooyen, Bazzo & Amiss all playing for WA...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bIuf19heVzo
:shh
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Live stream WA v SA featuring a few of the talls we might be looking at like Van Rooyen, Bazzo & Amiss all playing for WA...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bIuf19heVzo
:shh
Gladly have Van Rooyen in our future backline from what I've seen so far up to half-time.
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Ive liked Rhett Bazzo as well.
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One sided games are harder to judge. WA had a few decent types. Van Rooyen, Amiss, Johnson, Bazzo, Dittmar. Roberts the best out of the South Aussies. Horne-Francis I didn't really notice for the supposed favourite to go pick 1.
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Horne-Francis looks a better half-forward than a mid... :shh
Amiss, Bazzo, Van Rooyen, Johnson WA's best for mine...Roberts & Wanganeen-Millera SA's best...would be happy with any of them...especially Van Rooyen, Bazzo, Amiss & Johnson in that order of preference.... no idea where any of them will go in the draft...just need to see the Vic kids now...:shh
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Scoreboard
WA 3.2 5.6 8.12 9.13 (67)
SA 0.2 2.5 2.5 5.8 (38)
BEST – SA: Litster, Adams, Steene, Wanganeen-Milera, Becker, Roberts
GOALS – SA: Stagg, Roberts, Draper, Horne-Francis, Becker
https://sanfl.com.au/league/news/torrens-university-sa-u19-team-defeated-by-wa/
Matt Johnson, Rhett Bazzo, Jacob van Rooyen, Angus Sheldrick among stand-outs as WA beat South Australia
https://thewest.com.au/sport/afl-draft/afl-national-under-19s-championships-matt-johnson-rhett-bazzo-jacob-van-rooyen-angus-sheldrick-among-stand-outs-as-wa-beat-south-australia-c-3795864
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From "draft expert" Davo-27 on BF:
Phantom Draft
1. Collingwood - Nick Daicos (bid)
2. Western - Sam Darcy (bid)
3. North Melb - Jason Horne-Francis
4. GWS - Finn Callaghan
5. Gold Coast - Josh Gibcus
6. Adelaide - Matthew Roberts
7. Hawthorn - Neil Erasmus
8. Carlton - Ben Hobbs
9. Richmond - Josh Sinn
10. Fremantle - Jye Amiss
11. StKilda - Josh Ward
12. WCE - Jacob Van Rooyen
13. Essendon - Josh Rachele
14. GWS - Tyler Sonsie
15. GWS - Josh Fahey (bid)
16. Sydney - Matthew Johnson
17. Brisbane - Mac Andrew
18. Richmond - Ned Long
19. Port Adel - Arlo Draper
20. Brisbane - Jack Williams
21. Gold Coast - Darcy Wilmot
22. North Melb - Joshua Browne
23. Hawthorn - Josh Goater
24. Gold Coast - Campbell Chesser
25. Adelaide - Hugh Jackson
26. Hawthorn - Mitch Knevitt
27. Carlton - Connor MacDonald
28. Richmond - Charlie Molan
29. Fremantle - Nasiah Wanganeen-Milera
30. Richmond - Sam Banks
https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/davo-27s-2021-u18-draft-thread.1252633/post-71761361
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Cal Twomey's Phantom Form Guide: Best draft prospects ranked (August 31)
nb. Remember this is not a mock draft – it is our rankings of the best players and does not take into account where father-son or Academy bids could come.
1. Nick Daicos (Coll F/S) ........ Midfielder 183cm/72kg 3/1/03 Oakleigh Chargers/Vic Metro
2. Jason Horne-Francis .......... Midfielder 183cm/77kg 21/6/03 South Adelaide/South Australia
3. Sam Darcy (Dogs F/S) ....... Forward/defender 204cm/75kg 19/7/03 Oakleigh Chargers/Vic Metro
4. Finn Callaghan .................. Midfielder 189cm/82kg 26/4/03 Sandringham Dragons/Vic Metro
5. Ben Hobbs ....................... Midfielder 183cm/80kg 16/9/03 Greater Western Victoria Rebels/Vic Country
6. Josh Ward ........................ Midfielder 181cm/79kg 15/8/03 Northern Knights/Vic Metro (+4)
7. Josh Gibcus ...................... Key defender 195cm/84kg 4/4/03 Greater Western Victoria Rebels/Vic Country (-1)
8. Josh Rachele .................... Forward/midfielder 180cm/78kg 11/4/03 Murray Bushrangers/Vic Country (-1)
9. Mac Andrew .................... Ruckman 200cm/70kg 12/4/03 Dandenong Stingrays/Vic Country (-1)
10. Neil Eramus .................... Midfielder/forward 188cm/80kg 2/12/03 Subiaco/Western Australia (-1)
11. Jye Amiss ....................... Key forward 195cm/83kg 31/7/03 East Perth/Western Australia (+6)
12. Arlo Draper ..................... Midfielder/forward 185cm/71kg 20/1/03 South Adelaide/South Australia
13. Tyler Sonsie .................... Midfielder 181cm/77kg 27/1/03 Eastern Ranges/Vic Metro (-2)
14. Josh Sinn ......................... Half-back/midfielder 186cm/73kg 7/1/03 Sandringham Dragons/Vic Metro (-1)
15. Campbell Chesser ............ Midfielder/defender 186cm/83kg 27/4/03 Sandringham Dragons/Vic Country (-1)
16. Matthew Roberts ............... Midfielder/forward 183cm/81kg 31/7/03 South Adelaide/South Australia (-1)
17. Josh Goater .................... Midfielder 190cm/79kg 2/6/03 Calder Cannons/Vic Metro (+5)
18. Nasiah Wanganeen-Milera .. Midfielder 187cm/69kg 22/2/03 Glenelg/South Australia (new)
19. Sam Butler .................... Midfielder/forward 184cm/73kg 10/2/03 Greater Western Victoria Rebels/Vic Country (-1)
20. Darcy Wilmot ................. Defender 183cm/75kg 31/12/03 Northern Knights/Vic Metro (-1)
21. Matthew Johnson ......,...... Midfielder 192cm/80kg 16/3/03 Subiaco/Western Australia (-5)
22. Tom Brown .................... Defender 186cm/71kg 30/7/03 Murray Bushrangers/Vic Country (-2)
23. Jesse Motlop ................... Forward 176cm/74kg 23/11/03 South Fremantle/Western Australia (+1)
24. Jack Williams .................. Key forward 195cm/91kg 1/12/03 East Fremantle/Western Australia (-6)
25. Toby Conway .................. Ruckman 204cm/90kg 24/4/03 Geelong Falcons/Vic Country (-2)
26. Marcus Windhager ........... Midfielder 183cm/82kg 16/5/03 Sandringham Dragons/Vic Metro (new)
27. Jacob Van Rooyen ........... Forward/defender 194cm/88kg 16/4/03 Claremont/Western Australia (new)
28. Blake Howes .................. Forward/midfielder 190cm/79kg 7/4/03 Sandringham Dragons/Vic Metro (new)
29. Hugh Jackson ................. Midfielder 181cm/70kg 3/5/03 North Adelaide/South Australia (-4)
30. Zac Taylor ...................... Midfielder 180cm/74kg 31/1/03 Calder Cannons/Vic Metro (new)
Full summary of each potential draftee here: https://www.afl.com.au/news/672935/cal-twomeys-phantom-form-guide-top-draft-prospects-july-ranking
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AFL Draft Weekly Wrap: Pendlebury-like midfielder impresses for WA
Chris Doerre
ESPN
1 Sept 2021
Player focus
Rangey midfielder Matthew Johnson enhanced his first-round credentials with an impressive performance for Western Australia in their 29-point win against South Australia in the opening game of the Under-19 Championships on Saturday.
The 192cm Johnson exhibited class and composure similar to Scott Pendlebury. There was a sense with Johnson that whenever he had ball in hand that he would make something happen. He sidestepped players, changed direction fluidly, and created time and space for himself at will.
Unusual for a tall midfielder, Johnson appears to think and move faster than others following the ball. He possesses not only a quick first step, but before he even wins or receives the ball, he appears to have already planned how he is going to move and what he's going to do.
His ball use was just as impressive. Johnson delivered with precision by both hand and foot to targets. No matter the pressure he was under, Johnson took his time, assessed his options and made the right decision. His kicks both into the corridor to targets to open the game up, and his vision to hit targets inside 50 was similarly a highlight.
Johnson has had an up-and-down year. He started the season slowly and struggled to find the football at WAFL League level, but more recently though in the Colts and Reserves has improved - continuing his strong vein of form on Saturday.
While Johnson has the tools to be one of this draft's best, he'll need to continue developing as a ball winner and improving his consistency. His 25 disposals in the WAFL Reserves in his previous match, and 19 disposals in an influential performance against South Australia is the progression recruiters have been waiting for.
Western Australia
Similar to how Matthew Johnson has hit form at the right time of year, the same seems to be the case with key position prospect Jacob Van Rooyen. Van Rooyen who has kicked 11 goals over his past two WAFL Colts games proved just as adept in defence as one of Western Australia's best. Van Rooyen played with a distinct aggression and hunger to prove himself. In one-on-one contests he was competitive either taking the mark or spoiling, he attacked the ball aerially flying for intercept marks and tackled with aggression. Van Rooyen if he closes out the season strongly may re-emerge as a first-round contender.
Sharing the spotlight in defence with Van Rooyen, Rhett Bazzo put on an intercept marking clinic. A 195cm defender, Bazzo's reading of the ball in flight and how he attacked the ball was a highlight. Playing in front of his opponent, Bazzo played a confident brand of football. He flew for and took just about every mark he went after, backing in his intercept marking capabilities. Bazzo in 2021 has struggled for consistency, but his performance against South Australia won't quickly be forgotten by recruiters and should enhance his draft stocks.
Starring through the midfield and providing both a contrast to the play of Matthew Johnson, Kade Dittmar was the physical bull to complement Johnson's class. There was a liveliness to Dittmar's play where any time he was around the ball he exerted his influence. He won first possession at stoppages, won ground balls around the field, broke tackles, demonstrated good speed and agility with ball in hand and was busy when South Australia had the ball, applying pressure. Dittmar looks like Western Australia's premier two-way midfielder and like Jason Horne-Francis is one of the few midfielders in this pool who can influence games both ways. Dittmar may not be regarded as an early pick but could be a value choice mid-late draft.
South Australia
The standout for South Australia and one of the players to enhance his draft stocks was Nasiah Wanganeen-Milera. Emerging as a first-round fancy on the back of consistently strong play this season, Wanganeen-Milera showed that he is South Australia's classiest. Every time he had the ball in his hands, he felt like he would make something happen. Wanganeen-Milera effortlessly created more time and space for himself, with his agility and quick mind among the most impressive in this pool. His decision making, vision and kicking were further highlights and what further to his agility made his influence felt so regularly with ball in hand.
Under-the-radar name
Asked mostly to play deep in defence for Western Australia, overager Jack Avery played a fundamentally sound game. He didn't lose one-on-one contests, moved well, intercepted to a high level and generated drive from defence. Averaging a competition high 34-disposals in the WAFL Colts as a rebounding defender and more recently translating his play to WAFL League football, he's ready-made and someone whose standard of play merits early draft discussion.
https://africa.espn.com/afl/story/_/id/32111281/afl-draft-2021-chris-doerre-knightmare-weekly-wrap-pendlebury-midfielder-matthew-johnson-impresses-wa-nick-daicos-jason-horne-francis
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Johnson certainly looked the goods the other day though he is that type of player that could just as easily end up being another Fiora at AFL level... :shh
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Johnson certainly looked the goods the other day though he is that type of player that could just as easily end up being another Fiora at AFL level... :shh
Has Fiora written all over him...
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Another phantom draft:
1ST ROUND PHANTOM + Gc Compo
1. Nick Daicos - Coll (BID MATCHED)
2. Jason Horne-Francis - Nth
3. Sam Darcy - Wb (BID MATCHED)
4. Finn Callaghan - Gws
5. Josh Sinn - Gc
6. Arlo Draper - Adel
7. Ben Hobbs - Haw
8. Josh Goater - Carl
9. Josh Ward - Rich
10. Josh Gibcus - Freo
11. Mac Andrew - Stk
12. Jye Amiss - Wce
13. Neil Erasmus - Ess
14. Darcy Wilmot - Syd
15. Sam Butler - Gws
16. Jacob Van Rooyen - Bris
17. Josh Rachele - Rich
18. Nasaiah Wanganeen-Milera - Port
19. Josh Fahey - Gws (BID MATCHED)
20. Rhett Bazzo - Bris
21. Campbell Chesser - Gc (COMPO)
Yeah, it [favouring Richmond] does seem that way, when doing this one, the cards fell the way they did and i couldnt see Rachele being further down the line so i had him go there, but in reality i dont think he falls that far (although, wouldnt be surprised) and i only picked him in that position for Richmond as i see a need for another small fwd who could go in the middle for a chop out and in those positions he was best available. Sinn is the key here to this years draft......because of the skills he has, but lack of exposure he could go anywhere and on this i had him going to Gc and then with Adel taking Draper because of his upside and the same with Goater to Carlton, it therefore left Ward to slip a few.
https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/smythes-2021-draft-thread.1252879/page-5#post-71930497
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And a draftee ranking:
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* Josh Sinn is 186 cm and 82 (I think) kg, sorry for mistake
So with another year of Victorian footy severely impacted it's going to be even hard to pass judgement on players as individuals and where they may come into draft calculations. I wonder how much the lack of footy in Victoria in the past two years will effect the amount of vics that get drafted, especially as WA and SA kids club and improve on their concerns.
The month without Victorian footy has really allowed me to pay attention to SA and WA like I haven't been able to before, WA in particular has a lot of talent pushing to be involved here that may manage to sneak in over the next month. Draper I've changed my view on, not necessarily his RIF's, but I don't expect him to be a midfielder at the next level, and looking at his impact as mainly a forward makes him a much better looking prospect imo. Roberts drops slightly with his composure and ball use since returning from injury not really being at the level it has been, up until Saturday he wasn't dropping that far because of it but it's been enough time to build form imo.
I also went back a watched a bit of footage that I've either managed to grab or is readily available on the internet. Metro v Country Challenge match in particular I've watched a good 7 or 8 times trying to focus on certain players each time. It's a big reason for the Goater slide, off the ball work isn't quite at a great level for a midfielder still the main concern. It's also a big reason for the Wilmot and Ward rise, Wilmot I've said before I think is the best all round defensive prospect in the pool given he has a defensive focus and can hurt in offense, I think at the absolute worst he turns out to be a Maynard level player but with more speed and arguably a better kick, Ward is just a genuine fighter in the midfield, still unsure completely of his speed but it's not an obvious hindrance like in the case of Roberts for example.
Sonsie I originally had dropping, but went and rewatched Eastern vs Tasmania and his Box Hill game and he kept his spot, rarely wastes a disposal and works through traffic really well, could see a possible off the ball workrate issue but it's not glaringly bad.
Overall I'm probably getting more bullish with the draft as a whole, players I have closer to 30 in my rankings such as Mitch Knevitt, Judson Clarke, Zac Taylor for example I wouldn't be totally surprised to see taken as high as 10 because of the traits they have which makes it exciting to see what comes draft night and the rumours that start swirling before that. Mentioned Knevitt, Taylor and Clarke, on top of those guys Murley, Bazzo, JVR and Butler are close to being in the 20, I was hoping to see another game of Butler in particular prior to the Victorian lockdown to see how consistently he showed his traits given there's not much vision around of him, but ah well, what can ya do
Nick Daicos - Collingwood Father-Son, Sam Darcy - Western Bulldogs Father-Son, Mac Andrew - Melbourne Academy
https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/pmbangers-2021-draft-board.1258182/post-71938342
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Chesser sounds good. I'd be happy for us to use Geelong's pick on him.
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Would like another top 20 pick or 2
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Surely we'd have to take Amiss of he's still on the board at 9... :shh
Rachelle at 17 would be highway robberry.... :shh :shh
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Surely we'd have to take Amiss of he's still on the board at 9... :shh
Rachelle at 17 would be highway robberry.... :shh :shh
These two look great and I have an eye on Goater.
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Surely we'd have to take Amiss of he's still on the board at 9... :shh
Rachelle at 17 would be highway robberry.... :shh :shh
These two look great and I have an eye on Goater.
That's all good and well, but can they play football?
:lol
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Very even after the first few this year and they are not far ahead.
It fairy even all the way to the second round . Matt Clarke said we go for the best available and then look what we need.
With the talls look good from the WA vs SA game it would have to be a super deal to trade our picks . Looking forward to this draft
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If you are a club looking for a key-position player this year, go west.
Rhett Bazzo becomes the latest West Australian tall to enter AFL.com.au's rolling NAB AFL Draft team of the year after a standout performance in his state's under-19 championships win over South Australia last week.
The 195cm tall defender was terrific in WA's 29-point win, hauling in 10 marks in the backline and gathered 18 disposals and six rebound-50s.
Bazzo has been also used as a key forward at stages in Swan Districts' colts side, including a promising three-week patch at the start of the season that saw him boot a total of eight goals.
WA teammate Jacob van Rooyen was also excellent in the start of the under-19s carnival with eight grabs in defence, with the potential top-20 pick being shifted from attack to the backline in the rolling team of the year.
(https://resources.afl.com.au/photo-resources/2021/09/02/3665d796-e356-45fa-a55a-8a1ccb1744ef/Cal-Twomey-s-draft-team-of-the-year-September-4.jpg?width=1904)
https://www.afl.com.au/news/673476/twomey-s-draft-team-of-the-year-wa-tall-grabs-the-limelight-sa-son-of-a-gun-back-in
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Im on the Bazzo bandwagon. I hope his a Richmond player by the end of draft night. If we leave draft night with Hobbs and Bazzo Ill be ecstatic
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I’d be happy with Van Rooven too, as matter of fact I won’t be too disappointed with any of those boys
I hope our development coaches are raring to go
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Still thinking we need extra picks in the top 20
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As far as I can see if we want another top 20 pick one of the following would need to happen.
- Split pick 7 into two top 20 picks in the teens. (Unlikely but possible)
- Trade next years first pick for a pick in this years first round. (Unlikely but possible)
- Trade CCJ - our only player with currency. (Hope we don't do this btw)
Any other bright ( sensible) ideas?
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As far as I can see if we want another top 20 pick one of the following would need to happen.
- Split pick 7 into two top 20 picks in the teens. (Unlikely but possible)
- Trade next years first pick for a pick in this years first round. (Unlikely but possible)
- Trade CCJ - our only player with currency. (Hope we don't do this btw)
Any other bright ( sensible) ideas?
It's been mentioned before but we could convince the Dogs to trade their first rounder (~14) for a bundle of our later picks (28, 40 & 44) that give them the draft points they need for an early bid on Darcy. That would leave us with picks 7, 14, 16 & 26.
It depends on what they get for Lipinski. If the Pies or Blues cough up an early second rounder (20 or 25) for him then the Dogs won't need to trade their first. However, if they only get a 3rd rounder then they will need to generate the points by some other means. Trading with us would avoid them having to use a decent future pick.
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i feel like Collingwood's first pick is gettable too
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They traded it to the GWS
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How on earth are they going to have the points for Nick Daicos??
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lol, they can take points from next year , better still how are they going to trade for Pat Lipinski
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Drop down a few picks after tonight.
Giants umpired out of it.
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Pick 16 earliest it will be now I think?
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Pick 16 earliest it will be now I think?
Does it drop to 15 if the Cats get knocked out next week and Port were to beat Melbourne in the Granny?
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I read it if Brisbane win tonight then lose to Port Geelong finish 15th
And if Bulldogs win they need to beat Port for Geelong to finish 15th
All other scenafios have Geelong 16 or higher
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I read it if Brisbane win tonight then lose to Port Geelong finish 15th
And if Bulldogs win they need to beat Port for Geelong to finish 15th
All other scenafios have Geelong 16 or higher
In 2019, Geelong (who lost to us in the Prelim) ended up ranked 3rd and Collingwood (lost to GWS) were ranked 4th.
Based on that we need Melbourne to make the Granny and whoever wins out of Port vs Dogs to win the flag. Then Geelong ends up ranked 4th and we get pick 15.
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Honestly I'm happy to slide a spot or two if it means the Cats lose later in the series.
Heck I'll be thrilled if they lose by a goal or so I'm the GF.
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Honestly I'm happy to slide a spot or two if it means the Cats lose later in the series.
Heck I'll be thrilled if they lose by a goal or so I'm the GF.
It would be karma if Geelong lost by under a kick after the siren thanks to one of SHocking's stupid rules such as a 50m penalty for not standing on the mark.
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Honestly I'm happy to slide a spot or two if it means the Cats lose later in the series.
Heck I'll be thrilled if they lose by a goal or so I'm the GF.
It would be karma if Geelong lost by under a kick after the siren thanks to one of SHocking's stupid rules such as a 50m penalty for not standing on the mark.
My goodness...pure poetry haha
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AFL Talent Ambassador Kevin Sheehan assesses the most exciting draft chances from last weekend's NAB AFL U19s Championship game.
Read full article here: https://www.afl.com.au/news/673469/eyecatchers-votes-are-in-for-the-wa-v-sa-u19s-champs-clash
Jacob Van Rooyen, from Wembley Downs JFC, is an 18-year-old with senior experience at WAFL level where he's played predominantly as a tall forward. On the weekend he showed real composure as a defender, controlling the air with eight marks, a number of which were contested while others were superbly anticipated intercepts. When the ball hit the ground van Rooyen’s second efforts and agility kept him in the contest, as did his willingness to hunt and tackle the opposition with intent. Maybe he can be an AFL swingman down the track?
Rhett Bazzo, from South Mandurah, was likewise a rock in defense with 10 marks and aggressive spoiling a feature as he collected 18 possessions, predominantly in the back half. Another with a taste of senior WAFL football under his belt and having played both back and forward at college and club level, Bazzo looks a natural defender who also sets up play with his mobility and penetrating right foot. An All-Australian at Under 16s level in 2019, he certainly played some inspirational football for his state at the weekend, leaving a positive impression on his future AFL prospects.
Total Votes
Rhett Bazzo (WA) 14 votes
Jacob van Rooyen (WA) 10 votes
Angus Sheldrick (WA) 5 votes
Nas Wanganeen-Milera (SA) 3 votes
Matt Johnson (WA) 2 votes
Jye Amiss (WA) 1 vote
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Question.
Thoughts on Richmond's draft hand KM? Have pick 7 and they have not had a pick that high for a long time. Will there be a really high quality generational type in that range or should they package 7 and 16 (Geelong first rounder) for Gold Coast pick 3? How quickly does the top end talent run dry? My thoughts are that they have a few good young players on their list currently (especially young mids - Martyn, Dow, Ross, RCD, Bolton), so adding a really high quality type such as Rachele would be great as he provides a little more forward flare, something that the others don't necessarily posess. Also Neil Erasmus could be a good option at 7, but do you think Rachele may be gone by 7? From the surface doesn't appear that pick 7 this year will be as strong as previous years (Elijah Hollands, Hayden Young, Bailey Smith), so trading up the order may be a good idea. What are your thoughts on the top echelon of the draft?
Knightmare (Chris Doerre from ESPN):
Unlikely you'll get a generational type with either of those first round picks. You're more likely to miss on one of those picks, with a few projected top-10 picks even I'm just not sure on and are types where I'd let someone else pick.
It's generally seen as there is a top roughly 4 in Daicos (F/S)/Horne/Darcy (F/S)/Callaghan and after that there should be more interpretation.
Rachele may be there at 7, but that's not assured. Same story with Erasmus. It's roughly around where their likely range is in both cases.
Others may disagree, but I don't place as high of a premium on first round picks this year. No single pick inside the first round for me holds more than usual value. It's more in the second and third rounds, late draft, perhaps as rookies with good talent ID I see opportunities, and some that can be better than those projected to feature inside the first round.
Probably not what you want to hear, but if I'm picking in this draft and I have first round picks, I'd be more than happy to do some one for twos, moving an early pick down for a slightly low pick and player, or pick and a future pick. And that's just based on where I feel like I can get draft value. The next observer depending on who they're liking may feel there are different sweet spots in this draft.
https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/knightmares-2021-draft-almanac.1257391/post-71994186
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By one of BF's regular draft watchers Davo-27 (Hawks fan):
September Phantom Draft
Pick 1 - Collingwood - Nick Daicos (Bid)
Pick 2 - Western - Sam Darcy (Bid)
Pick 3 - North Melb - Jason Horne-Francis
Pick 4 - GWS Giants - Finn Callaghan
Pick 5 - GC Suns - Ben Hobbs
Pick 6 - Adelaide - Josh Sinn
Pick 7 - Hawthorn - Neil Erasmus
Pick 8 - Carlton - Josh Gibcus
Pick 9 - Richmond - Jye Amiss
Pick 10 - Fremantle - Jacob Van Rooyen
Pick 11 - StKilda - Mac Andrew
Pick 12 - WCE - Matthew Johnson
Pick 13 - Essendon - Josh Ward
Pick 14 - GWS Giants - Josh Fahey (Bid)
Pick 15 - Sydney - Matthew Roberts
Pick 16 - Brisbane - Josh Goater
Pick 17 - Richmond - Josh Rachele
Pick 18 - Port Adelaide - Nasiah Wanganeen-Milera
Pick 19 - Brisbane - Jack Williams
Pick 20 - GC Suns - Campbell Chesser
Pick 21 - North Melb - Darcy Wilmot
Pick 22 - Hawthorn - Mitch Knevitt
Pick 23 - GC Suns - Tyler Sonsie
Pick 24 - Adelaide - Arlo Draper
Pick 25 - Hawthorn - Toby Conway
Pick 26 - Carlton - Leek Aleer
Pick 27 - Richmond - Ned Long
Pick 28 - Fremantle - Kade Dittmar
Pick 29 - Richmond - Rhett Bazzo
Pick 30 - WCE - Josh Browne
https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/davo-27s-2021-u18-draft-thread.1252633/post-72006241
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That would be a killer haul...too bad it won't happen... :shh
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Question.
Thoughts on Richmond's draft hand KM? Have pick 7 and they have not had a pick that high for a long time. Will there be a really high quality generational type in that range or should they package 7 and 16 (Geelong first rounder) for Gold Coast pick 3? How quickly does the top end talent run dry? My thoughts are that they have a few good young players on their list currently (especially young mids - Martyn, Dow, Ross, RCD, Bolton), so adding a really high quality type such as Rachele would be great as he provides a little more forward flare, something that the others don't necessarily posess. Also Neil Erasmus could be a good option at 7, but do you think Rachele may be gone by 7? From the surface doesn't appear that pick 7 this year will be as strong as previous years (Elijah Hollands, Hayden Young, Bailey Smith), so trading up the order may be a good idea. What are your thoughts on the top echelon of the draft?
Knightmare (Chris Doerre from ESPN):
Unlikely you'll get a generational type with either of those first round picks. You're more likely to miss on one of those picks, with a few projected top-10 picks even I'm just not sure on and are types where I'd let someone else pick.
It's generally seen as there is a top roughly 4 in Daicos (F/S)/Horne/Darcy (F/S)/Callaghan and after that there should be more interpretation.
Rachele may be there at 7, but that's not assured. Same story with Erasmus. It's roughly around where their likely range is in both cases.
Others may disagree, but I don't place as high of a premium on first round picks this year. No single pick inside the first round for me holds more than usual value. It's more in the second and third rounds, late draft, perhaps as rookies with good talent ID I see opportunities, and some that can be better than those projected to feature inside the first round.
Probably not what you want to hear, but if I'm picking in this draft and I have first round picks, I'd be more than happy to do some one for twos, moving an early pick down for a slightly low pick and player, or pick and a future pick. And that's just based on where I feel like I can get draft value. The next observer depending on who they're liking may feel there are different sweet spots in this draft.
https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/knightmares-2021-draft-almanac.1257391/post-71994186
So he is saying it is 50/50 in the first round v trying to pick gems in later rounds.
So a team with multiple first round picks still can get an advantage if their talent spotting is good...say like the Tigers
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AFL Draft - September's Power Rankings: Two father-sons in the likely first three picks
ESPN.com.au's expert Chris Doerre has revealed his AFL Draft Power Rankings for the month of September, with Josh Daicos, Jason Horne-Francis, and Sam Darcy forming a clear 'top three', but there's movement further down the list.
1. Nick Daicos (Collingwood - Father-Son)
2. Jason Horne-Francis
3. Sam Darcy (Western Bulldogs - Father-Son)
4. Finn Callaghan
Best position: Balanced midfielder
Height, weight: 189cm, 82kg
Recruited from: Sandringham Dragons
Projected draft range: 1-5
Plays like: Jared Polec
August ranking: 6
Rationale: Callaghan is an upside pick given he has grown later than many others. His special sauce is his rare movement for someone his height, with his agility, evasion and speed respectively special in traffic. If Callaghan develops his aggression and becomes a strong contested ball winner and tackler, he has the scope to be as good as any in this draft. Callaghan's ceiling which is elevated by his late growth spurt makes him the most appealing after the 'big-3.'
Strengths:
Rare time, space and composure in traffic
Evasion
Agility
Sidestep
Acceleration
Takes on the game at speed with ball in hand
Hits contests at speed and times his moves well to receive on the burst
Work rate
Endurance
Overlap run
Class and composure under pressure to hit his targets by hand or foot
Skill execution by hand and foot
Versatility to play inside or outside midfield
Weaknesses:
Lack of aggression
Contested ball winning
Tackling
5. Josh Ward
Best position: Balanced midfielder
Height, weight: 181cm, 79kg
Recruited from: Northern Knights
Projected draft range: 3-15
Plays like: Marc Murphy
August ranking: 5
Rationale: A low risk, ready-to-go midfielder who is one of the very best and most complete midfielders in this draft. His production and impact during the latter part of the NAB League campaign was the next best thing to Daicos.
Strengths:
Skills
Lowers his eyes and places kicks out in front of targets inside 50m to leadup onto
Vision
Decision making under pressure
Composure
Finishing around goal
Go-to-guy around the ground
Agility
Acceleration
Run and carry with ball in hand
Inside/outside midfield balanced
Works hard both ways
Rises to the big occasion
AFL ready-to-go game
Production
Weaknesses:
Unclear versatility
Lack of size and strength
6. Matthew Roberts
Best position: Inside midfield
Height, weight: 183cm, 81kg
Recruited from: South Adelaide
Projected draft range: 5-25
Plays like: Dayne Beams
August ranking: 4
Rationale: Roberts has been one of this year's most consistent performers and is one of the premier ball winners with the bonus being he can also push forward and have an impact. After missing time with an ankle injury, Roberts made a strong return from injury with 20 disposals in his first SANFL League match back, though his match against Western Australia other than a strong second quarter was below expectation which contributes to his drop down two spots.
Strengths:
One-touch ball winner below the knees
Endurance
Work rate
Spread from the contest
Contested ball winning
Clean hands in traffic
Distribution by hand
Damaging and penetrating left foot kick
Placement of kicks out in front of forwards to lead onto
Overhead marking
Inside/outside midfield balance
Versatility to play midfield, forward or back as required
Scoreboard impact
Strong tackler
AFL ready-to-go game
Weaknesses:
Prone to rushing under pressure and bombing long by foot for territory
Needs to take more time after a mark or free kick to assess his options before moving the ball on
Would benefit from lowering his eyes and looking to hit up shorter targets more often
Limited speed
Limited time and space in traffic
7. Jack Avery
Best position: General defence
Height, weight: 190cm, 83kg
Recruited from: Perth
Projected draft range: 30+
Plays like: Tom Stewart
August ranking: Outside-20
Rationale: While Avery was born one year earlier than his peers, he's as fundamentally sound and well-rounded of a defender as you'll find in this draft. Despite playing in defence, Avery led the WAFL Colts with a competition high 34-disposals before transitioning to WAFL League play where he has enjoyed immediate success and looked at home. He plays all facets well, from intercepting, to rebounding, to beating his direct opponent. On the back of the ease with which he has transitioned to WAFL League level and the consistency he has displayed at the level, Avery looms as one of the best plug-and-play options in this draft.
Strengths:
Production
Performances against League opposition
Rate of improvement
Intercept marking
Reading of the ball in flight
Work rate
Strength
One-on-one defence
Versatility to play as a third tall or key defender
Plays taller than his height and can play against key forwards
Negating of opponent's influence
Generate rebound both by foot and with his run and carry
AFL ready-to-go game
Weaknesses:
In-between size as not quite key defence height
Unclear scope to play up the ground
8. Leek Alleer
Best position: Key defence
Height, weight: 196cm, 84kg
Recruited from: Central Districts
Projected draft range: 15-45
Plays like: Aliir Aliir
August ranking: Outside-20
Rationale: Rapidly developing, Alleer has become an intercept marking force in the SANFL at League level. Although he is two years older than his peers, his scope to develop is enormous based on his rapid rate of development. His round 16 match against South Adelaide was the eye-opener with five contested marks, seeming to intercept every high ball that went near him.
Strengths:
Intercept marking
Contested marking
Wins one-on-one contests routinely and often turns one-on-one contests into intercept marks
Reading of the ball in flight
Aerial marking
Attack on the ball aerially
Leap
Courage to back into packs and put his body on the line
Rapid rate of improvement
Speed
Weaknesses:
Finds little of the ball in general play
One-dimensional
9. Mac Andrew (Melbourne Next-Generation Academy)
Best position: Ruck
Height, weight: 200cm, 70kg
Recruited from: Dandenong Stingrays
Projected draft range: 3-20
Plays like: Paddy Ryder
August ranking: 7
Rationale: Andrew is a light bodied ruckman and long-term project player who is likely to spend his early years developing as a key position player while he adds muscle to his light frame. What is breathtaking with Andrew is how high he leaps at centre bounces, often getting his waist above the head of rival rucks when he gets a clear jump at the ball. Andrew's drop can be attributed to the rise of others.
Strengths:
Leap
Soft hands through ruck
Hitouts to advantage
Long arms and reach
Clean below the knees
Tackling
Mobile
Clean by hand and foot
Reading of the ball in flight
Contested marking
Weaknesses:
Strength
Too light at this stage to play through the ruck and will need to start his career as a key position player
Struggles through the ruck when a body engages him and prevents him from using his leap to advantage
Struggles one-on-one
10. Arlo Draper
Best position: Inside midfield/general forward
Height, weight: 185cm, 71kg
Recruited from: South Adelaide
Projected draft range: 5-25
Plays like: Robbie Gray
August ranking: 15
Rationale: In his League debut, one week after his first week back from an ankle injury, Draper's classy display against North Adelaide made clear beyond doubt he's AFL calibre and plays a significant part in his rise up this draft board. His mix of attributes from contested ball winning, to classy ball use to his movement and strong marking make him among this draft's more appealing prospects.
Strengths:
Contested ball winning
Tackling
Stoppage craft
Composure in traffic
Clean hands
Vision
Locating and hitting targets by foot in the corridor
Lowers his eyes for kicks inside 50m
Overhead marking
Contested marking
Agility
Evasion
Acceleration
Takes on the game with his run
Influential both through the midfield and up forward
Scoreboard impact
Weaknesses:
Strength
Lack of outside accumulation
11. Bodhi Uwland (Gold Coast - Academy)
Best position: Inside midfield/general defence
Height, weight: 185cm, 84kg
Recruited from: Gold Coast
Projected draft range: 40+
Plays like: Luke Hodge
August ranking: 8
Rationale: One of the lesser-known prospects in this draft, Uwland is as aggressive and competitive as any in this draft. Uwland is not just a strong ball winner, but he is a powerful athlete who shrugs tackles at will and has a penetrating and damaging kick. Uwland's drop can be attributed to the rise of others.
Strengths:
Contested ball winning
Powerful shrugging of tackles
Aggression
Physical edge
Penetrating and damaging but reliable kick
Kicks placed out to the advantage side for teammates to lead onto
Decision making with ball in hand
Vision
Evasion
Agility
Acceleration
Leap
Versatility to impact games either through the midfield, defence or across half-forward
Weaknesses:
Endurance
Work rate
12. Neil Erasmus
Best position: Utility
Height, weight: 188cm, 80kg
Recruited from: Subiaco
Projected draft range: 5-20
Plays like: Elliot Yeo
August ranking: 19
Rationale: Missing the opening Under-19 Championships game against South Australia due to a corked thigh, Erasmus has been a model of consistency this year, not dropping below 27 disposals in the WAFL Colts and showing up and playing good football in all his other games. On review of his early season AFL Academy vs. Geelong performance, it's clear his position amongst this year's crop should be higher than it has been, particularly when looking at how well he is already performing for someone with a December birthday.
Strengths:
Early reader of the ball in flight who consistently gets to the drop of the ball
Intercepting marking
Aerial marking
Leap
Big game performer
Versatility to play inside/outside midfield or as a forward
Scoreboard impact
Consistency
Rate of improvement
Endurance
Weaknesses:
Inconsistent kick
Limited exposure against strong opposition
13. Zac Taylor
Best position: Balanced midfielder
Height, weight: 180cm, 74kg
Recruited from: Calder Cannons
Projected draft range: 15-45
Plays like: Lachie Hunter
August ranking: Outside-20
Rationale: With one of the strongest closes to the NAB League season, Taylor earns his way into the top 20 due to his combination of high-volume accumulation, high end movement and ball use by foot.
Strengths:
Production
Precise and damaging kick
Vision to hit meaningful targets around the ground and inside 50m
Decision making under pressure
Composure with ball in hand
Speed
Agility
Evasion
Inside/outside midfield balance
Weaknesses:
Limited scoreboard impact
Unclear forward capabilities
14. Josh Goater
Best position: Utility
Height, weight: 190cm, 79kg
Recruited from: Calder Cannons
Projected draft range: 5-25
Plays like: Jack Crisp
August ranking: 9
Rationale: Goater has gotten better as the year has progressed and his performance in the Vic Metro vs. Vic Country trial made clear he's among the upper echelon of prospects this year. He's already exciting with the intercepting and run he can generate from defence, and the signs are there that he may be able to carry some of that play over into a midfield role. Goater's drop is due to the improvement shown by others.
Strengths:
Versatility to impact games through the midfield, in defence and up forward
Reading of the ball in flight
Overhead marking
Intercept marking
Leap
Burst of speed out of stoppages
Acceleration
Agility
Evasion
Distribution by hand
Composure in traffic
Rate of improvement
Weaknesses:
Unclear best position
Inconsistent kick
15. Nasiah Wanganeen-Milera
Best position: Outside midfield/general defence
Height, weight:188cm, 70kg
Recruited from:Glenelg
Projected draft range: 5-25
Plays like: Shane Edwards
August ranking: Outside-20
Rationale: Spending most of the season in the SANFL Reserves and playing good football, in more recent weeks Wanganeen-Milera has stepped up to League level without any drop off. His SANFL League play along with his performance for South Australia against Western Australia as his side's best see him force his way inside the top-20.
Strengths:
Agility
Evasion
Creates time and space with ball in hand
Composure with ball in hand
Precision kicking
Decision making
Vision
Versatility to play outside or in defence
Impact per possession
Performances on the board
Performs better against better opposition
Weaknesses:
Lack of size or strength
Contested ball winning
16. Josh Rachele
Best position: General forward/general midfield
Height, weight: 180cm, 78kg
Recruited from: Murray Bushranges
Projected draft range: 5-20
Plays like: Alan Didak
August ranking: 10
Rationale: Having the capability to push through the midfield and win first possession in addition to the damage he does forward of centre by foot, Rachele is one of this draft's most exciting dual position threats. Rachele drops due to the improvement shown by others, with his relative lack of consistency and slower than expected improvement since 2019 what places him behind those rated more highly on this draft board.
Strengths:
Best in class level precision kick
Kicks placed out in front of targets to lead onto
Scoreboard impact
First possession winning at stoppages
Explosive speed
Agility
Forward pressure
Tackling
Aerial marking threat
Ground level craft
Versatility to impact games both as a forward and through the midfield
AFL ready-to-go game
Weaknesses:
Finds little easy outside ball
Endurance
Lack of consistency
Relatively slow progression since 2019
17. Josh Sinn
Best position: General defence
Height, weight: 186cm, 73kg
Recruited from: Sandringham Dragons
Projected draft range: 5-20
Plays like: Bailey Dale
August ranking: 11
Rationale: A line-breaking defender, Sinn has had a frustrating year on the injury front, but in the games he has played, that hasn't stopped him from having his moments where he would break games open with his run. Sinn's drop as with others ahead of him dropping comes largely down to the improvement of others.
Strengths:
Agility to stop on a dime, then accelerate in another direction, wrong-footing opponents and bursting past them at speed
Breaks the lines with ball in hand at a high frequency and with significant acceleration
Kick placement out in front of inside-50m targets to lead onto
Hurt-factor by foot
Consistency by foot over short distances
Weaknesses:
Contested ball winning
Inconsistency
18. Matthew Johnson
Best position: Inside midfield
Height, weight: 192cm, 80kg
Recruited from: Subiaco
Projected draft range: 10-35
Plays like: Scott Pendlebury
August ranking: 20
Rationale: Showing improved play in the WAFL Colts, Johnson has found form in recent months as a classy tall midfielder. His recent performances including 25 disposals in the WAFL Reserves and arguably best afield level play for Western Australia in their win against South Australia see his stocks improve.
Strengths:
Composure
Classy and sound decision making with ball in hand
Evasion in traffic
Agility
Quick first step
Creates time and space for himself in traffic
Already knows what he is going to do before he gets ball in hand
Reliable ball user who displays vision on his kicks
Places kicks out in front of leading targets inside-50m to lead onto
Makes something happen when he has ball in hand
Weaknesses:
Limited production
Lack of consistency
19. Ben Hobbs
Best position: Inside midfield
Height, weight: 183cm, 80kg
Recruited from: Greater Western Victoria
Projected draft range: 5-20
Plays like: Matt Crouch
August ranking: 12
Rationale: A dominant contested ball winner and tackler, Hobbs is one of the readiest to play midfielders in this draft. Lacking in the way of speed, athleticism and X-factor, Hobbs drops behind others who are playing more exciting brands of football and do more damage with ball in hand.
Strengths:
First possession winner at stoppages
Contested ball winning
Tackling
Distribution by hand
Scoreboard impact
Outside accumulation and involvement around the ground
Versatility to push forward as part of a large midfield rotation as required
Reading of the ball in flight
Overhead marking
Production
AFL ready-to-go game
Weaknesses:
A stationary ball winner who rarely wins the ball at speed or on the move
Limited time and space in traffic
Lack of speed
Lack of athleticism
Lack of agility
Low impact per possession
20. Connor MacDonald
Best position: Balanced midfield/general forward
Height, weight: 184cm, 77kg
Recruited from: Dandenong Stingrays
Projected draft range: 10-40
Plays like: Luke Parker
August ranking: 13
Rationale: A goalkicking midfielder, MacDonald has been prolific and consistent in the games he has appeared for Dandenong early in the season before school football commitments began. The improvement of others in addition to the relatively low impact per possession displayed by MacDonald compare to others play a part in his drop.
Strengths:
One touch ball winner at ground level
Contested ball winning
Tackling
Scoreboard impact
Work rate
Distribution by hand
Aerial marking
Reading of the ball in flight
Work rate
Endurance
Inside/outside midfield balance
Able to impact games both through the midfield and up forward
Consistency
Production
Weaknesses:
Kicks long to contests too often and needs to lower his eyes and look for short options more often
Vision
Limited impact per possession
https://www.espn.com.au/afl/story/_/id/32111566/afl-draft-2021-phantom-draft-power-rankings-september-nick-daicos-jason-horne-francis-sam-darcy-fight-pick-no-1
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Another BF draft watcher ModernArtillery has a top 50. A bit of a guide as well for our 2nd and 3rd rounders.
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Over the last month I've managed to see a lot of SA and WA vision so to try and minimise the recency bias I've gone back and reviewed a fair bit of the Vic and Allies vision I've had available. I've had a fair bit of movement with some exposed form causing the likes of Roberts and Jackson to slide with Amiss, Bazzo and Wanganeen-Milera big risers. I've also expanded my board to 50 now.
1. Jason Horne-Francis
2. Nick Daicos
3. Neil Erasmus
4. Tyler Sonsie
5. Ben Hobbs
6. Josh Ward
7. Matthew Johnson
8. Sam Darcy
9. Zac Taylor
10. Josh Rachele
11. Connor MacDonald
12. Finn Callaghan
13. Josh Goater
14. Mitch Owens
15. Tom Brown
16. Kai Lohmann
17. Darcy Wilmot
18. Jye Amiss
19. Nasiah Wanganeen-Milera
20. Arlo Draper
21. Paul Curtis
22. Matthew Roberts
23. Josh Gibcus
24. Rhett Bazzo
Despite the SA forward line being below standard, Bazzo demonstrated some AFL standard traits that will give him the best chance of transitioning to the level. He reads the flight of the ball really well which allows him to be a real threat as an interceptor. He's a good size at 195cm+ and has an athletic base that compliments his size nicely. The thing that separates Bazzo from others for me is his ball use which is a real strength for him. He gets penetration on his kicks and can be a really effective rebounder from defence to attack. I'd love to see the type of performance we saw against SA more consistently from him which would give me a greater level of confidence in him as a prospect.
25. Ethan Regan
26. Josh Sinn
27. Brady Hough
Hough is a really complete prospect and one that I need to commit more time to over the coming weeks. As a midfielder he's got a nice inside/outside balance. He's willing to put his head over the footy and has pretty clean hands at the contest. What has been most impressive is his adaptability to play different positions, specifically in the forward line at state level where he was one of WA's better players against SA. He looks really comfortable on the lead, he's good at ground level and applies pressure when he doesn't have the footy. I think I've gone pretty conservative at 27 here because there's real scope for him to rise.
28. Jacob Van Rooyen
29. Hugh Jackson
30. James Willis
31. Charlie Molan
32. Jamieson Ballantyne
33. Mitch Knevitt
34. Judson Clarke
Clarke has high end speed and class as a small forward where he breaks lines and finishes consistently inside forward 50. His speed allows him to apply pressure, particularly inside forward 50, where he closes in on defenders and either tackles or impacts their disposal. There's a bit of x-factor about him and he doesn't need much of a look to really impact the game. I think he's a prospect who will enter the AFL system with a clearly defined role and enough skill and talent to be successful in that role.
35. Cooper Murley
36. Sam Butler
Butler is a half forward who does a really good job at pushing up the ground and finding the footy. He's particularly good at winning the ground ball at pace and firing handballs out to teammates on the outside. His work-rate up the ground to get involved in the contest and then speed back the other way to get goal side of his defender is high quality and that would see him get real reward at AFL level. Despite doing his best work up the ground he's still capable inside forward 50 where he's a marking threat overhead, willing tackler and capable ball winner at ground level. Butler is another of those prospects who will walk into an AFL club next year knowing who he is and having a clearly defined role which sets him up for success.
37. Mac Andrew
Andrew is a freakishly skilled footballer for his size and just flashes a scary level of potential. He moves really well for his size and his ball drop and use by foot looks more comfortable than a lot of the midfielders in this draft. My concerns with Andrew is how this all translates to the next level given the enormous amount of work that needs to go into his body to allow him to compete at AFL level. His role at the next level is somewhat unclear too, where he could find himself forward, through the ruck or in defence. The skill level is intriguing but I find the required physical development a bit overwhelming.
38. Leek Alleer
Alleer has developed into a quality intercept marking defender who possesses the size, athleticism and ability to forge a career at AFL level. He's still pretty raw and though a touch inconsistent this year, he's shown enough to suggest that the traits are there. He's showed glimpses of being really aggressive at flying for intercept marks, backing himself in and beating his man one on one. He's a willing spoiler too and will opt for that if he finds himself out-positioned for the intercept. His ball use can be a bit nerve-racking at times but it's serviceable and will improve as he gains more experience. He's probably slightly ahead of other KPP's in this draft in terms of physical development, though his football is probably at a relatively similar level.
39. Marcus Windhager
Windhager has demonstrated his versatility fulfilling multiple roles across half forward, the wing and half back. I think his position at the next level is likely to be across half forward where he can effectively push up the ground and be a conduit between the midfielders and forwards but also play a role defensively as a pressure forward and tackler inside 50. I really like Windhager as a prospect and if he can improve his finishing and use by foot then he can absolutely find a role at AFL level.
40. Campbell Chesser
I couldn't have Chesser higher on my board because I've had pretty limited exposure to him and the games that I have seen him play he's been low production and low impact. He can use the footy, he's a good size and he moves across the ground really well so there's nothing overly surprising about him being a highly rated prospect, I'd just need to see more before I committed an early selection to him.
41. Josh Fahey
Fahey similarly finds himself this low in part because of my limited exposure to him. He's got a nice penetrating kick which he uses consistently to good effect. He's a solid athlete too and so physically I think he'll be able to stand up to the level. I think he projects as a handy accumulator and distributor off half back with the key for him being whether his defensive work stands up at AFL level. Fahey's another that I wish I'd had more exposure to so that I could feel more comfortable with where he fits on my board.
42. Lachlan Rankin
Rankin is a real classy operator and gets real value for his possessions. He fits best between both 50m arcs as either a high half forward, wing or half back, where his ball use translates well into score involvements. The highlight of his game is his willingness to bite of kicks into the corridor which he consistently executes with success. He's not a particularly special athlete and probably doesn't have an enormous amount of physical development to come which is a shame because his skill set in a taller, more athletic body could be pretty special. I think he's a value pick in the second half of the draft.
43. Sam Banks
Banks is another classy accumulator off half back who does his damage with his run, carry and kicking penetration. He's got the size and athleticism to hold up in one on one's with the skill and footy IQ to develop as an interceptor. Banks does have the scope to push higher up the ground, whether it be as a winger or a centre square midfielder though some improvement in his contested footy and two-way running would be necessary. I think it's probably more likely that he fights for a position across half back at AFL level.
44. Miller Bergman
Bergman is a mobile, athletic type who covers the ground really easily and can impact the game aerially. He willingly and quite courageously flies for marks and competes to either take the grab himself or bring it to ground. He's a classy user by foot and a good finisher in front of goal so there are weapons there that make him desirable. He's got the versatility to find a role at half forward, on a wing or as an interceptor and user across half back and that flexibility will give him plenty of opportunities to find a role at AFL level.
45. James Tunstill
Tunstill has proven to be a really effective player at stoppage, consistently demonstrating his ability to read the drop of the ball, get on the move and win it with clean hands. He's pretty fearless in there, never shirking the contest and always willing to put his head over the footy. He's also shown some growth in the way that he exits stoppage and distributes to those on the outside, often freeing his arms, moving through the contest and firing a sharp handball under pressure to a teammate. He's a good enough user on the outside too and he can go forward and hit the scoreboard, so he's more than just an inside midfielder. He's got some physical development to come as he fills out a bit more too so there's still some growth left in him.
46. Lewis Rayson
Rayson's had a pretty solid year at all levels though I haven't really seen that break out performance that makes him a must have for me. He just seems to hold up at every level where he's pretty consistent across half back as an accumulator and distributor. He's a good overlap runner and can break the lines and navigate running angles to create space for himself to execute his kicks. At times he doesn't get true value for his possessions though some consideration has to be given to the context of those possessions which in many cases have been under supreme pressure or with little movement and structure ahead of him. He reads the play well enough to intercept at a reasonable rate, particularly for his size, and has a few little tricks in and around the contest that demonstrate some footy IQ. He is purely outside at this stage and some of those tricks in the contest help him avoid contact which can be a problem if teammates aren't on the same page. Adding some size to allow him to compete in the contest more will be really important for his development. I have some concerns about his ceiling and where that extra growth will come from that will allow him to establish himself as an AFL player. I think he's done enough to find himself on an AFL list but I feel he still has a lot of work to do to establish himself at the level.
47. Blake Howes
Howes is an athletic half forward/winger that covers the ground well and is really strong on the lead. He's a good decision maker with the ball in hand and can navigate his way through traffic with composure to find the best target. Whilst he does a really good job leading beyond forward 50, he still offers plenty inside 50 where he can mark the footy, hit the scoreboard and apply pressure at ground level as a willing tackler. He was starting to elevate his production before the NAB League shut down but accumulating more consistently would allow him have more of an influence on the contest.
48. Taj Woewodin
49. Cooper Beecken
Beecken has spent a fair bit of time on the wing this year but he looks most comfortable across half back where he's pretty solid at everything he does. He's a solid athlete that can play on a mix of smalls and talls, he's a consistent user by foot who makes smart decisions and doesn't bite off low percentage kicks. Beecken has a good balance of intercepting and negating, though he is one that does rely on pressure up the ground more than others. He's a good tackler despite not being a physically imposing build, though the contested side of his game is probably the area that needs the most growth at this stage.
50. Toby Murray
Murray is a slight key forward/ruck with a bit of bounce and zip on the lead for his size. He's pretty raw still but he's competitive in the air, showing a willingness to fly for a mark, crash a pack and bring the ball to ground. He's got good mobility for his size which allows him to follow up and stay in the contest when the ball does go to ground. He's got a fair bit of physical development to come but the combination of size and athletic attributes make him an intriguing prospect later in the draft.
https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/modernartillery-2021-draft-thread.1273192/post-72025828
https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/modernartillery-2021-draft-thread.1273192/page-4
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Draft Central Power Rankings: September 2021
by Michael Alvaro
afldraftcentral.com.au
6 September 2021
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#11 Josh Sinn
#12 Josh Rachele
#13 Arlo Draper
#14 Jye Amiss
#15 Matthew Roberts
#16 Campbell Chesser
#17 Josh Goater
#18 Nasiah Wanganeen-Milera
#19 Matthew Johnson
#20 Darcy Wilmot
#21 Jack Williams
#22 Sam Butler
#23 Josh Fahey
#24 Tom Brown
#25 Zac Taylor
#26 Blake Howes
#27 Mitch Knevitt
#28 Judson Clarke
#29 Jesse Motlop (FRE NGA)
#30 Jacob van Rooyen
IN THE MIX:
West Australian midfielder Josh Browne is the only player who comes out of last month’s list of 25, but remains around the mark in an even bunch having returned to his ball winning best post-injury. East Fremantle teammate Corey Warner has produced an eye-catching season in the APS and at League level, while intercept marking machine Rhett Bazzo came into consideration after his outstanding National Championships performance for WA. Claremont ruck-forward Eric Benning has also put his hand up of late, but Fremantle fans will want to keep the athletic bigman’s potential on the down-low.
Fellow tall Toby Conway is arguably the best pure ruck of this year’s crop and has hardly put a foot wrong when given the chance. Sandringham Dragons and St Kilda NGA pair Marcus Windhager and Mitch Owens have also risen into second round calculations on the back of their desirable traits, while midfielders Connor Macdonald and Jake Soligo are consistent performers who earned representative honours this year.
Over in South Australia, Cooper Murley remains unlucky having again been sidelined through injury (collarbone), but has serious talent. North Adelaide accumulator Hugh Jackson put up some extraordinary early-season numbers and made his Reserves debut last week, with Port Adelaide father-son Jase Burgoyne continues to perform and state Under 19 vice-captain Lewis Rayson was a member of our top 25 earlier in the year.
Full write ups on each draftee here: https://afl.draftcentral.com.au/2021/09/06/draft-central-power-rankings-september-2021/
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Keen on chesser
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"A couple of names I have heard that an opposition recruiting team believe we [Richmond] have strong interest in are Matthew Roberts and Dan Butlers brother, Sam Butler."
https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/2021-draft-pool.1252517/post-72051744
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Behind a paywall.
Draft guide: What will your club do with its first pick?
The AFL Draft is fast approaching. Here is every club’s current draft order — and who they are in the mix to select with their top pick.
https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/afl-draft-2021-what-will-your-club-do-with-its-first-pick/news-story/42025e7317912eb3ceb25e43a87e9dcf
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Here's the article:
RICHMOND
INDICATIVE DRAFT PICKS: 7, 16, 26, 28, 40, 44, 80, 98
WHAT DID THEY DO IN THE FIRST AND SECOND ROUNDS OF THE DRAFT LAST YEAR?
The Tigers were not a big player in the 2020 draft, opting to trade their first-round pick to Geelong in exchange for the Cats’ first-round pick this year.
They picked up Brisbane Academy member and 206cm ruckman Samson Ryan with their second-round selection at pick 40 after the Lions chose not to match a bid.
WHO’S IN THE MIX THIS YEAR?
Unlike last year, the Tigers have indicated their intention is to hold onto their two first-round picks.
They will have a plethora of options in a draft which is heavy in quality midfielders at the top of the order.
Players like tough Greater Western Victoria Rebels midfielder Ben Hobbs and silky Sandringham Dragons onballer Finn Callaghan could be in the mix at pick 7.
The Tigers have also picked up a lot of players from the Northern Knights in recent years and would have a close eye on Josh Ward.
Highly-rated Rebels key defender Josh Gibcus is another player who could come into calculations as the Tigers look to life beyond the retired David Astbury and the ageing Dylan Grimes.
He is not a top-end pick but the Tigers also have access to Bendigo Pioneers midfielder-forward Nyawi Moore, who is eligible to join Essendon as a father-son where his dad Nathan Lovett-Murray played 145 games.
Along with the Bombers link, Moore is a member of Richmond’s Next Generation Academy.
ADELAIDE
INDICATIVE DRAFT PICKS: 4, 23, 37, 59, 63, 77, 95
WHO’S IN THE MIX THIS YEAR
Unfortunately for the Crows as it stands the best SA prospect of the 2021 crop Jason Horne-Francis will likely be off the board with Adelaide’s current No. 4 pick, which will probably slide back to No. 6.
So do the Crows either try and offer North Melbourne a package for Pick No. 1 that the Kangaroos can’t refuse for the South Adelaide wonderkid?
Or do they split this first pick to go down the order and take Horne-Francis’ teammates Arlo Draper and Matthew Roberts?
Both Draper and Roberts are midfielder-forwards, while bolter Nasiah Wanganeen-Milera could also come into the mix.
If the Crows do keep their early pick and choose to go with an interstate talent rather than their recent strategy of South Australian prospects then Josh Rachele, who idolises Toby Greene, fits a big need as an exciting small forward who can go through the midfield.
Speed machines Finn Callaghan and Josh Sinn would also offer something if available.
BRISBANE
INDICATIVE DRAFT PICKS: 14, 18, 47, 51, 57, 73, 87
WHO’S IN THE MIX THIS YEAR
The Lions hold two picks in the first round.
With Mitch Robinson 32 and Hugh McCluggage destined for more inside midfield time they could do worse than selecting Nasiah Wanganeen-Milera for a wing position.
Sandringham Dragons star Campbell Chesser is another player who could come into calculations.
Hailing from an athletics background, Chesser is quick and can break the lines coming off either half-back or playing on a wing.
CARLTON
INDICATIVE DRAFT PICKS: 6, 25, 61, 79, 97
WHO’S IN THE MIX THIS YEAR?
It all depends on whether Adam Cerra joins the Blues during the trade period.
If Carlton is able to strike a deal with the Dockers, they will most likely have to part with pick 6.
Cerra fills a need for the Blues as another strong inside midfielder.
However, if Carlton does not land Cerra, it could look to a player like Greater Western Victoria Rebels onballer Ben Hobbs who also fits the bill.
The Blues will also have an eye on father-son prospect Charlie McKay, who is a 186cm midfielder who was overlooked in last year’s draft.
The Sandringham Dragons product is the son of four-time All-Australian Andrew McKay.
Tom Silvagni, Dane Whitnall and Thomas Gleeson are other potential father-son options for the Blues.
COLLINGWOOD
INDICATIVE DRAFT PICKS: 34, 39, 41, 45, 75, 93
WHO’S IN THE MIX THIS YEAR?
The Magpies cleared out their top pick in this year’s draft in anticipation of matching a bid on father-son prospect and potential No. 1 selection Nick Daicos, who’s since agreed to a four-year deal. Collingwood’s wish to be heavily involved in last year’s draft also saw it part with a 2021 second-round pick in a deal with Hawthorn.
Daicos won’t fall outside of the top three, meaning the Pies need to rustle up between 1787 and 2400 draft points, including the 20 per cent discount, to match whatever bid comes in.
Their first pick, as it stands, is No. 33, which is worth only 563 points, so they will have to bundle up a number of selections and even try to trade in some more.
Collingwood can also match a bid on Daicos’ Oakleigh Chargers teammate Youseph Dib, who is part of the club’s Next Generation Academy – as long as it doesn’t come within the first 20 picks. The Magpies can draft Dib with their last selection if an opposition bid comes from pick 56 onwards. They have committed to signing Senegalese ruckman Bassirou Faye as a category B rookie.
ESSENDON
INDICATIVE DRAFT PICKS: 11, 48, 54, 84
WHO’S IN THE MIX THIS YEAR?
The Bombers’ current pick 11 is likely to get pushed back to pick 13 given expected early bids on father-son prospects in the draft.
However, the Bombers should still be able to get a very handy player at that point, with recruiters believing the top end of the draft this year is quite strong.
Essendon snaffled a couple of key defenders last year, but appears thin for key forwards which are likely to be a focus this year.
A player like 195cm East Perth forward Jye Amiss could appeal, or even 200cm Dandenong Stingrays ruckman Mac Andrew who has also shown some ability in attack.
The Bombers also have raft of potential father-son prospects, headlined by Tex Wanganeen (son of Gavin) who is eligible for both Essendon and Port Adelaide but has closer ties to the Bombers and trained at Tullamarine during pre-season.
Bendigo Pioneers product Nyawi Moore (son of Nathan Lovett-Murray) is also father-son eligible and is a player with serious athletic ability and a few tricks, while Alex Hird (son of James) and Josh Misiti (son of Joe) are also available.
FREMANTLE
INDICATIVE DRAFT PICKS: 8, 27, 81, 99
WHO’S IN THE MIX THIS YEAR
A lot depends on what happens during the trade period for the Dockers.
An Adam Cerra departure to Carlton could see the Dockers snag two picks inside the top-10.
However, if Brownlow Medal winner Lachie Neale comes back from Brisbane, at least one of those might have to be back out the door.
However, as things stand, the Dockers sit right in the mix for a player like Subiaco midfielder Neil Erasmus, who shapes as Western Australia’s top prospect.
East Perth key forward Jye Amiss would also be of interest with that first pick.
The Dockers also have access to Jesse Motlop through their Next Generation Academy.
The South Fremantle small forward is the son of former North Melbourne and Port Adelaide forward Daniel Motlop but is not father-son eligible for either of those clubs.
GEELONG
INDICATIVE DRAFT PICKS: 30, 32, 35, 53, 89
WHO’S IN THE MIX THIS YEAR?
Richmond holds the Cats’ first-round pick after last year’s swap, while Geelong holds second-round picks tied to Essendon and GWS as well as its own.
The Cats don’t have a lot of obvious list holes, aside from the fact they have an ageing list.
There is a good chance they might package up a couple of the second-round picks to try and move up the order, which would provide an opportunity to go after a gun young midfielder.
One of Geelong Falcons’ top prospects, Noah Gribble, will be on the Cats’ radar as a 180cm over-age wingman.
Gribble missed selection in last year’s draft after rupturing his ACL in the first week of training before the 2020 season.
Fellow Falcons player Toby Conway – a 204cm ruckman – would also be on the radar.
Expect the Cats to also have a close look at Tom Brown, the son of former Geelong hero Paul Brown.
The 186cm defender is not father-son eligible given his father played only 84 games for the club.
However, it would be a nice touch to see him pull on the hoops, with his sister Millie also part of the Cats’ AFLW team.
Greater Western Victoria Rebels defender Sam Breuer also has Geelong links, with his father Shayne Breuer having played 71 games for the club.
GOLD COAST
INDICATIVE DRAFT PICKS: 3, 19, 22, 43, 55, 58, 66, 76, 94
WHO’S IN THE MIX THIS YEAR
The Suns are likely to trade the No. 3 pick if they can get an experienced player to the club.
However, if they hold onto it, a big-bodied key position player like Josh Gibcus is certain to be considered.
The Greater Western Victoria Rebels defender is 198cm and has a huge leap that has excited recruiters.
Western Australian key forward Jack Edwards, who is 195cm, is another player who could help the Suns add depth to their key position stocks and might be available for Gold Coast’s next picks in the 20s.
GWS GIANTS
INDICATIVE DRAFT PICKS: 2, 13, 50, 68, 86
WHO’S IN THE MIX THIS YEAR
Assuming Nick Daicos is off the board, the Giants are likely to place a bid on Western Bulldogs father-son prospect Sam Darcy if North Melbourne doesn’t. What they do from there will be interesting. GWS already has great midfield depth, so could it spring a surprise and select key defender Josh Gibcus? If not, smooth-moving, silky-skilled Finn Callaghan might be a target.
There should be plenty of good options at the Giants’ second pick as well. Tall forward Jye Amiss might slide that far, but versatile players such as Tyler Sonsie, Arlo Draper and Josh Sinn could appeal, too.
GWS looks set to match a bid on Academy standout Josh Fahey, who the AFL ruled can be a Giants Academy selection despite him spending time with Gold Coast last year. Fellow Academy members Harrison Grintell and Patrick Voss also scored Combine invitations.
HAWTHORN
Indicative draft picks: 5, 21, 24, 56, 62, 78, 96
WHO’S IN THE MIX THIS YEAR
The Hawks will bring in another gem with their top-five selection, which will slide a couple of spots because of other clubs’ father-son prospects, Nick Daicos and Sam Darcy. Could they draft another key defender in JOSH GIBCUS, or will they look to bolster their on-ball brigade?
Hawthorn will have plenty of midfield options to choose from, depending on which players are still available. Josh Ward and Josh Rachele are two footballers who could be in the mix. With Ben McEvoy and Jon Ceglar ageing, the Hawks might even swoop on 200cm ruckman Mac Andrew.
Sam Mitchell will also have two selections in the 20s for his first draft as senior coach, courtesy of a pick swap last year with Collingwood. There are more midfielders up for grabs in that range, but Hawthorn might snap up small forward Jesse Motlop, after missing out on Dockers recruiting target Lachie Schultz.
Ex-Hawk Nathan Thompson’s son, Louis Thompson, a small forward, is father-son eligible.
MELBOURNE
INDICATIVE DRAFT PICKS: 33, 42, 52, 91
WHO’S IN THE MIX THIS YEAR?
Changes to Next Generation Academy rules this year have worked against the Demons, who are unlikely to be able to get their hands on an exciting player who they have put some work into in 200cm ruckman-forward Mac Andrew.
The Dandenong Stingrays prospect has been part of Melbourne’s NGA program since 2018 but is expected to be selected in the top 20 picks.
Under new rules this year, clubs are unable to match bids on their NGA talent within the first 20 selections.
There are no major list holes in what has been a very strong team this year, but another key forward could be on the shopping list if there are any suitable prospects left on the table in the 30s or 40s or if the Demons package up picks and trade up the order.
NORTH MELBOURNE
INDICATIVE DRAFT PICKS: 1, 20, 38, 70, 74, 92
WHO’S IN THE MIX THIS YEAR?
The wooden-spooners were the ‘winners’ of the Horne Ultimatum. The Roos may place bids on one or both of father-son prospects Nick Daicos and Sam Darcy but are certain to end up with tough South Australian midfielder Jason Horne-Francis. They may even make him the No. 1 pick without placing bids on the other two.
What they do with their second selection will be interesting, given they have already invested so heavily in their midfield. Defenders Darcy Wilmot and Tom Brown or key forward Jack Williams may be considered here.
Small forward Jesse Motlop, son of former Kangaroo Daniel, would also fit a need. He doesn’t qualify for father-son selection, as Daniel played only 47 games for the club.
Father-son options include defender Jackson Archer (Glenn) and midfielder Darby Scott (Robert, brother of Bailey).
PORT ADELAIDE
INDICATIVE DRAFT PICKS: 17, 60, 71, 72, 90
WHO’S IN THE MIX THIS YEAR
The rise of Nasiah Wanganeen-Milera this year has the nephew of Port legend Gavin Wanganeen right in the mix at where the Power’s first pick will be.
If Wanganeen-Milera continues to spike and is off the board by then, the Power could look at Western Australia’s Matthew Johnson to add a tall midfielder to the mix.
South Adelaide’s Matthew Roberts and Arlo Draper could even still be on the board then.
The Power will also pick up father-son prospect Jase Burgoyne, who is the son of 2004 premiership player Peter Burgoyne.
A highly-rated prospect, he is a classy midfielder or forward who is damaging by foot and has played some senior SANFL football with Port Adelaide Magpies this year.
ST KILDA
INDICATIVE DRAFT PICKS: 9, 46, 64, 82, 100
WHO’S IN THE MIX THIS YEAR?
Adding some more midfield class looks like being on the agenda for the Saints and there should be plenty of options available when their first pick rolls around.
Locally, Sandrigham Dragons duo Josh Sinn and Campbell Chesser will both be in the mix around that mark.
Sinn is a classy outside player who was co-captain of the Dragons this season, while Chesser was vice-captain and is another predominantly outside midfielder with a good mix of speed and endurance as well as silky skills.
Eastern Ranges midfielder Tyler Sonsie is another player who could come into calculations and is a player who can win the contest but also has polish on the outside.
Another option could be West Australian Neil Erasmus, who is an exciting 188cm midfielder who can also go forward and finish off his work.
The Saints also have a couple of Next Generation Academy members who could be considered later in the order in Sandringham Dragons duo Mitch Owens and Marcus Windhager.
Windhager has a basketball background and has had a strong season after coming off an ACL injury in 2019, while Owens is a 190cm wingman or half-forward who significantly stepped up his game this year.
Jack Peris is another NGA member and is the son of former Australian hockey star and Olympic Gold Medal winner Nova Peris.
A speedy half-back or wingman, Peris hails from the Northern Territory and comes from an athletics background.
SYDNEY
INDICATIVE DRAFT PICKS: 12, 32, 68, 86
WHO’S IN THE MIX THIS YEAR?
There will be some seriously good prospects still available at the Swans’ top pick. They may even add another WA key forward in JYE AMISS to help with life after Lance Franklin. But if it’s players with versatility they’re after, then Arlo Draper or Josh Sinn could appeal.
Midfielders Hugh Jackson and Zac Taylor may be in the mix at No. 32. ANGUS ANDERSON, who was invited to the AFL Combine, and Gulden-clone Felix Rogers may be the next Academy members to join the big time.
Daryn Cresswell’s son, Jake Cresswell, is playing for the Murray Bushrangers and father-son draft eligible this year. There are other Swans family connections in the draft, with Tom Papley’s brother, Will Papley, and Michael O’Loughlin’s nephew, Blayne O’Loughlin, in the mix.
WESTERN BULLDOGS
INDICATIVE DRAFT PICKS: 15, 70, 88
WHO’S IN THE MIX THIS YEAR?
Like last year, the Bulldogs really only have one player in their sights entering the draft and that is father-son prospect Sam Darcy.
The athletic 205cm forward-ruckman is the son of former Western Bulldogs ruckman and current club director Luke Darcy and is tipped to receive a bid in the first three picks in this year’s draft.
Darcy trained with the Bulldogs during pre-season and has always wanted to follow in the footsteps of his father and play for the club.
If the Bulldogs make any trades for picks beyond the draft points they will need for Darcy, there are also some other players in the mix that they have kept an eye on.
Eastern Ranges forward Corey Preston trained at the club during pre-season, while Western Jets defender Cody Raak is linked to the Bulldogs’ Next Generation Academy and has had a strong year which has included some Vic Metro duties.
WEST COAST
INDICATIVE DRAFT PICKS: 10, 29, 36, 49, 65, 83
WHO’S IN THE MIX THIS YEAR
The Eagles have said they will go to the draft this year and their first pick has them around the mark for WA products Neil Erasmus, a tall midfielder who can go forward and kick goals.
Another West Australian in that range is East Perth key forward Jye Amiss.
Outside of Western Australia, Sandringham Dragons line-breaker Josh Sinn, talented Eastern Ranges midfielder Tyler Sonsie and South Adelaide midfielder-forward Arlo Draper are all likely to be available around the Eagles’ first pick.
The Eagles also have access to East Perth’s Ethan Regan later in the order.
The 191cm forward is part of the club’s Next Generation Academy.
https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/afl-draft-2021-what-will-your-club-do-with-its-first-pick/news-story/42025e7317912eb3ceb25e43a87e9dcf
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One of the poorest pieces of draft analysis I have ever read. Samson Ryan was no longer in the Lions academy and some of the picks suggested for us won't last until pick 9.
A 15yold who reads Bigfruity could have done a better job
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From Callum Twomey and Nat Edwards' draft podcast:
14:15 – Will the Tigers swoop on an exciting tall? The latest on Richmond's pair of first-round picks.
* Potentially Mac Andrew. Should be in Richmond's pick 7 discussion. Mainly key forward/ruck but could play key back in time as he beefs up his footy IQ. A bit of Nik Cox & NicNat about him. A lot to like about Mac Andrew.
16:50 - Could we see top-10 picks being traded? The clubs who could look at splitting their early selections.
* Would Adelaide trade picks 4 & 23 (2849 pts) with Richmond's 7 & 16 (2711 pts).
5:15 – Who are the Hawks targeting at pick No.5?
Twomey reckons Hobbs is inside mid and too similar to what the Hawks already have and so at pick 5 they will go more for someone like Ward who is both inside & outside.
https://omny.fm/shows/road-to-the-afl-draft/bombers-plans-hawks-targets-pick-swaps-and-draft-g
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Draft depth enthuses Tigers
“I think it’s a pretty good group,” Clarke said on the AFL.com.au ‘Road to the Draft’ podcast.
“We thought going into the year that it was going to be pretty strong.
“There’s obviously some boys at the top end that we knew about . . . Nick Daicos, Jason Horne from SA. Then you have a big fellow like young (Sam) Darcy emerge the way he has. And a guy like (Finn) Callaghan emerge the way he has as well.
“There’s always those guys that may not have been on the radar completely who can really jump up, and I think a few of those have done that.
“Beyond those first four or so, I think it’s pretty even. And there’s a really good mix from all the states, too . . .
“I think having a couple of (first round) selections can give you a bit more flexibility in terms of the types you want to pick.
“However, with that first one, I still think you’re probably looking at best available on where we rank them, no matter what type they are.
“Generally, if they’re around that top 10, or 5-10 pick, they’re a high-quality selection.
“I still think it’s worth putting our eggs in the basket of the best (available) player with that first one. And then maybe we can see what happens with the second.
“There’s a little bit of water to go under the bridge there.”
Clarke emphasised that it was important to have an open mind with regards to bolstering the Club’s playing list and not relying purely on a sole recruiting strategy.
“We did that in 2016 with our list management team, with Blair (Hartley) doing a power of work to be able to bring in those three guys – (Dion) Prestia (from Gold Coast), (Toby) Nankervis (from Sydney) and (Josh) Caddy (from Geelong) – which filled a lot of holes on the ground for us,” he said.
“I reckon we still need to look at that, too.”
https://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/1014678/draft-depth-enthuses-tigers
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Update Top 50 from one of BF's draft watchers Davo-27:
Top 50 - September
1. Nick Daicos *
2. Sam Darcy *
3. Jason Horne-Francis
4. Finn Callaghan
5. Ben Hobbs
6. Neil Erasmus
7. Matthew Johnson
8. Josh Goater
9. Jye Amiss
10. Josh Fahey *
11. Josh Ward
12. Matthew Roberts
13. Josh Sinn
14. Josh Rachele
15. Jacob Van Rooyen
16. Ned Long
17. Mitch Knevitt
18. Nasiah Wanganeen-Milera
19. Josh Gibcus
20. Campbell Chesser
21. Toby Conway
22. Mac Andrew *
23. Kade Dittmar
24. Connor MacDonald
25. Josh Browne
26. Sam Banks
27. Arlo Draper
28. Tyler Sonsie
29. Leek Aleer
30. Darcy Wilmot
31. Judson Clarke
32. Charlie Molan
33. Tom Brown
34. Morgan Ferres
35. Paul Curtis
36. Rhett Bazzo
37. Jake Soligo
38. Marcus Windhager *
39. Ethan Regan *
40. Zac Taylor
41. Michito Owens *
42. Eric Benning *
43. Cooper Hamilton
44. Cooper Beecken
45. Brady Hough
46. Hugh Jackson
47. James Tunstill
48. Kai Lohmann
49. Jase Burgoyne *
50. Jack Williams
*= F/S or Academies
https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/davo-27s-2021-u18-draft-thread.1252633/post-72059273
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From Callum Twomey and Nat Edwards' draft podcast:
14:15 – Will the Tigers swoop on an exciting tall? The latest on Richmond's pair of first-round picks.
* Potentially Mac Andrew. Should be in Richmond's pick 7 discussion. Mainly key forward/ruck but could play key back in time as he beefs up his footy IQ. A bit of Nik Cox & NicNat about him. A lot to like about Mac Andrew.
16:50 - Could we see top-10 picks being traded? The clubs who could look at splitting their early selections.
* Would Adelaide trade picks 4 & 23 (2849 pts) with Richmond's 7 & 16 (2711 pts).
5:15 – Who are the Hawks targeting at pick No.5?
Twomey reckons Hobbs is inside mid and too similar to what the Hawks already have and so at pick 5 they will go more for someone like Ward who is both inside & outside.
https://omny.fm/shows/road-to-the-afl-draft/bombers-plans-hawks-targets-pick-swaps-and-draft-g
Leek Aleer as a key back would do fine with one of our selections. I understand we have monitored a late starter to the game who held down CHB for a VFL team this year. Standing 196 with a mature body who can also run, could turn into a player in a professional environment and is young* enough at 22.
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Would not complain about selecting Matt Roberts with one or our first round selections. Ticks all the midfield boxes :shh
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WHEN the AFL released its list of 90 prospects invited to the NAB AFL Draft Combine last month, Leek Alleer's name stood out. The 20-year-old's season has also seen him break into AFL.com.au's rolling draft team of the year, with Alleer this week getting a backline position. Alleer, who moved to Australia from South Sudan as a child, is an intercept defender who loves flying for his marks, backing himself in the air and cutting off forward forays. He has held down a spot in the Bulldogs' back half for most of the season, playing 11 senior games in the SANFL and averaging four marks. The 195cm prospect has pushed himself into second-round discussions as clubs assess his draft position.
Fellow South Australian Arlo Draper, who returned to under-18s level last week and gathered 25 disposals and six clearances for South Adelaide in its semi-final defeat. Draper is a classy half-forward/midfielder who can impact games in different ways and is dangerous with the ball in his hands.
Matthew Johnson also returns to the side, with his past month including a 25-disposal and 10-mark game for Subiaco's reserves side and also an excellent game in Western Australia's under-19 championships win over South Australia when he had 19 disposals. The 192cm midfielder shapes as a potential first-round pick at November's draft.
https://www.afl.com.au/news/675209/twomey-s-draft-team-of-the-year-mature-age-high-flyer-s-stocks-rising
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The kid Bowey is the exact reason you keep your picks in the 20s.
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Matt Rendell discussing the draft on SEN:
Really likes this year's draft when he looked at it.
Clear top 4.
1. North - Horne-Francis ...... ( not expecting a bid on Daicos/Darcy to tell the kid they rank him the best )
2 & 3. Bids on Daicos & Darcy
4. GWS - Finn Callaghan
There will be plenty of bargains into the 20s & 30s.
Chesser and Sinn in his top 5 a year ago and rates them both very highly.
https://player.whooshkaa.com/episode?id=902028
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Pick 15, thanks Doggies!!
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https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/2021-provisional-draft-order-live-based-on-current-ladder.1251001/post-72123530
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We have a fantastic draft hand. We cant waste it. Please dont stuff it up Richmond.
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Someone loves to chose skinny left footed Aaron Fiona types at RFC, always a disaster, please get it right.
Also note the CCJ situation, we pick up a young ruck type, persevere and then maybe not get to keep him??
Hopefully we get it right but am holding my breath.
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"We’ve [Richmond] spoken to Josh Fahey more than once and like him a lot. Don’t be surprised to see a bid from us. We love bidding on players from other Academies."
https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/2021-draft-pool.1252517/post-72130022
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Confirmation of our picks:
YOUR CLUB'S 2021 PICKS
Richmond 7, 15, 26, 28, 40, 44
Adelaide 4, 23, 37, 59, 63
Brisbane 14, 18, 47, 51, 57, 73
Carlton 6, 25, 61
Collingwood 36, 39, 41, 45
Essendon 11, 48, 53
Fremantle 8, 27
Geelong 30, 32, 34, 52
Gold Coast 3, 19, 22, 43, 55, 58, 66
GWS Giants 2, 13, 50, 68
Hawthorn 5, 21, 24, 56, 62
Melbourne 33, 42, 54
North Melb. 1, 20, 38, 69
Port Adel. 16, 60, 70, 71
St Kilda 9, 46, 64
Sydney 12, 31, 67
West Coast 10, 29, 35, 49, 65
W.Bulldogs 17, 72
https://www.afl.com.au/news/676091/indicative-draft-order-tigers-big-hand-your-club-s-picks
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We're a fan of kids from the Northern Knights. It was Cotch's U18s club. So Ward will be in the frame at our first pick if he is still on the board.
Knights rider: The aerobic beast rocketing into top-five calculations
Josh Ward's performances in the NAB League have made recruiters sit up and take notice
By Riley Beveridge
afl.com.au
13 September 2021
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Josh Ward in action for Northern Knights in the NAB League in April 2021. Picture: AFL Photos
IT WAS a performance that brought out the best in Josh Ward.
Having taken some time to find his feet this season in the aftermath of a cancelled 2020 campaign, everything clicked for Ward as his Vic Metro side easily accounted for Vic Country in a trial game at Windy Hill last July.
Ward had spent last season and the summer that followed developing a series of aspects within his game. Improving his inside work, his physicality and his running capacity had been the focus during the endless months of Victoria's lockdown.
But on that Friday afternoon, working in tandem with the likely No.1 pick Nick Daicos in Vic Metro's midfield, it was time for Ward to reap the benefits of a gruelling last 18 months in a performance that commanded the attention of onlooking recruiters.
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Josh Ward playing for Vic Metro in an U19 game against Vic Country in June 2021. Picture: AFL Photos
Ward collected 29 disposals, eight clearances and kicked two goals as Vic Metro eased to a 56-point win, displaying the balance of an inside-outside game that has clubs of the belief he could push into top-five calculations by this year's NAB AFL Draft.
"In Year 10, I was playing on the wing for Vic Metro," Ward told AFL.com.au.
"I really wanted to play a bit more inside, but I just didn't quite have the size to go in there and match it with those boys at that point. If I got anything out of the lockdown last year, it was the opportunity to prepare my body for this season.
"I set up a bit of a makeshift gym in the backyard and improved that over the lockdown period. That was my main focus coming into this year and it's still a growth area for me, but I'm glad that I've been able to build my body up to a level that it needs to be.
"It's not quite a strength yet, but that was my goal … to play midfield. I knew what I wanted and that's made it pretty easy to work towards it."
Ward's running power has always been a strength. Having started his career as a wingman, it was his aerobic capacity that enabled him to stretch the field and hold his width within games.
However, since moving into an inside role with Vic Metro and the Northern Knights this year, his fitness base has become an even bigger asset. Recruiters have noted his defensive running without the footy, and his carry with it, among his most significant traits.
That's culminated in an impressive campaign reflected by his superb numbers at NAB League level. According to Champion Data, he's averaged 30.2 disposals per game (ranked third in the competition), 5.6 clearances (ranked fifth), 6.2 score involvements (ranked fifth) and 11.6 contested possessions (ranked eighth) from his five matches with the Knights.
A period spent watching and analysing Carlton gun Sam Walsh has only helped him progress even further in those areas, with Ward closely monitoring the former No.1 selection from his TV at home to pick up any lessons he can.
"I really admire him for his gut-running," Ward said.
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Josh Ward and Nick Daicos battle for the ball in the Northern Knights-Oakleigh Chargers NAB League game in June 2021. Picture: AFL Photos
"I've always been a decent runner, but being able to transfer it into a game is a whole new story. It's something I'm definitely trying to get better at. Sam Walsh is probably the best I've ever seen at doing that.
"Running has always been a strength of my game. It's always something I've worked pretty hard at, because I think working on your strengths is just as important as your weaknesses as it gives you that weapon.
"I worked hard on it over the off-season, but it's been a culmination of a few off-seasons where I've really worked hard on the running side of my game. That's definitely helped me this year."
Clubs are confident Ward will find himself selected in the early stages of this year's national draft. The more bullish of those teams believe he could even find himself being recruited within the first five picks.
For a keen Hawthorn fan with family links to the club – Ward's great grandfather, Alex Lee, played 31 games for the Hawks in the 1930s – there's extra reason to hope his name is called early on draft night.
Hawthorn currently holds pick No.5 at this year's draft, but could still find its position in the order shuffled around during what looms as a busy Continental Tyres AFL Trade Period for the club.
Finding his way to Waverley later this year – and being part of a Sam Mitchell-led rebuild at the club from 2022 onwards – would be a dream come true for Ward and his Hawks-loving family.
"I hope so," Ward laughed.
"It would be incredible to go to the Hawks. They've got a good, young list now and they've got Sam Mitchell coming in. I've heard nothing but good things about him, so that would be incredible. But I don't really want to raise my hopes too highly about that."
For now, though, Ward is simply looking forward to getting back on the field again in the near future. Having waited patiently through six Victorian lockdowns, his focus has been diverted almost entirely to education.
Hopeful of combining an AFL career with a degree in politics, philosophy and economics at university next year, the naturally high-achieving Ward is eager to get a footy back in his hands sometime soon.
"I don't think my mindset has really changed through this … it's always been the same thinking for me, just trying to go out and play the best I can," Ward said.
"Obviously, you have to adapt to going back to training with one other person and trying to stay ready when you're uncertain about what's going to happen. I've been able to keep the stress at bay, just by keeping on training and staying positive.
"I'm just taking it as it comes. If we were to get back, which I don't think we will now, I'd be happy to play another game or as many as I can. Ultimately, I just want to end up playing footy."
https://www.afl.com.au/news/675176/knights-rider-the-aerobic-beast-rocketing-into-top-five-calculations
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Good first round phantom draft by the guys at theinnersanctum.com.au have us taking Josh Sinn (Sandringham) at 9 and Matthew Johnson (Subiaco) at 18.
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Liked what I saw of Johnson in the state game but couldn't help but feel there was also a fair bit of Adam Fiora potential about him too.... :help
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Posted this before but: Assuming CCJ is off to GC. Once again we should be keeping him IMO.
Trade One: Pick 3 & 19 for CCJ and pick 7.
Trade Two: Picks 28, 40 & 44 to Dogs for pick 17. 1468 points compared to 1025 points so a win for dogs.
Leaves us with 4 picks all inside 30: 3, 15, 17 & 26
I am not sure how many list spots we have open currently or will have.
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Posted this before but: Assuming CCJ is off to GC. Once again we should be keeping him IMO.
Trade One: Pick 3 & 19 for CCJ and pick 7.
Trade Two: Picks 28, 40 & 44 to Dogs for pick 17. 1468 points compared to 1025 points so a win for dogs.
Leaves us with 4 picks all inside 30: 3, 15, 17 & 26
I am not sure how many list spots we have open currently or will have.
Can work
We could get a 40s pick for Caddy. How would that go points wise with the Dogs pick instead of 28?
Could we also trade next year's first for Saints #9 or GWS #13?
Dreaming of 3, 9, 15, 19, 26 and 28. That would set us up
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I do like the group of top 30 picks coming through the ranks together. The bond etc that it can create can be very strong and valuable. Look at the group's coming through together at Ess, Syd and Port as great examples of this with good group's of youngsters drafted together.
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Good first round phantom draft by the guys at theinnersanctum.com.au have us taking Josh Sinn (Sandringham) at 9 and Matthew Johnson (Subiaco) at 18.
Here's the link: https://www.theinnersanctum.com.au/afl-phantom-draft/
1. North .... Horne-Francis
2. Coll bid .... Daicos
3. Dogs bid .... Darcy
4. GWS ........ Callaghan
5. GC ........... Gibcus
6. Adel ........ Roberts
7. Haw ........ Sonsie
8. Carl ........ Hobbs
9. Rich ........ Josh Sinn
7/01/2003 | 186cm | 82kg | General Defender | Sandringham Dragons/Vic Metro
NAB League: 5 games | 17.6 disp | 3.4 marks
Sinn is a pure line-breaker who could be a fantastic long-term replacement for the departing Bachar Houli coming out of defence. The Tigers have been found wanting with Jayden Short needing a helping hand to gain metres from the backline, and Sinn is a 100-metre player with his pace and booming kick for the Dragons. He has also shown his ability to push through the midfield and provide spark as well, adding to his value as a top-10 prospect.
Around the mark: Josh Rachele, Neil Erasmus
10. Freo ...... Erasmus
11. StK ....... Andrew
12. WCE ...... Goater
13. Ess ........ Rachele
14. GWS ...... Draper
15. Syd ........ Ward
16. GWS bid ... Fahey
17. Bris ......... Wilmot
18. Rich ........ Matthew Johnson
16/03/2003 | 193cm | 80kg | Inside Midfielder | Subiaco (WA)
WAFL Colts: 6 games | 21.3 disp | 0.5 goals
In possession of Geelong’s first-round pick, the Tigers have found some gems out of Western Australia in the past, consistently going across the Nullarbor with the likes of Shai Bolton and Nathan Broad, and more recently Matthew Parker in the mid-season draft. With Johnson, they get an appealing size for a contested midfielder, who possesses good agility and hands in the contest. He’s struggled to find his feet at senior level for Subiaco but there’s plenty of special traits he’s displayed to suggest he’ll excel at the elite level given time.
Around the mark: Ned Long, Mitch Knevitt
19. Port ........ Chesser
20. Bris ........ Conway
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No thanks. We need a blue-chip ball-winning mid please.
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Posted this before but: Assuming CCJ is off to GC. Once again we should be keeping him IMO.
Trade One: Pick 3 & 19 for CCJ and pick 7.
Trade Two: Picks 28, 40 & 44 to Dogs for pick 17. 1468 points compared to 1025 points so a win for dogs.
Leaves us with 4 picks all inside 30: 3, 15, 17 & 26
I am not sure how many list spots we have open currently or will have.
Don't think that trade with GC would go ahead. Too much in our favour. I think if we got 19 for CCJ that would be about eight, otherwise something else needs to go back their way.
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Good first round phantom draft by the guys at theinnersanctum.com.au have us taking Josh Sinn (Sandringham) at 9 and Matthew Johnson (Subiaco) at 18.
Here's the link: https://www.theinnersanctum.com.au/afl-phantom-draft/
1. North .... Horne-Francis
2. Coll bid .... Daicos
3. Dogs bid .... Darcy
4. GWS ........ Callaghan
5. GC ........... Gibcus
6. Adel ........ Roberts
7. Haw ........ Sonsie
8. Carl ........ Hobbs
9. Rich ........ Josh Sinn
7/01/2003 | 186cm | 82kg | General Defender | Sandringham Dragons/Vic Metro
NAB League: 5 games | 17.6 disp | 3.4 marks
Sinn is a pure line-breaker who could be a fantastic long-term replacement for the departing Bachar Houli coming out of defence. The Tigers have been found wanting with Jayden Short needing a helping hand to gain metres from the backline, and Sinn is a 100-metre player with his pace and booming kick for the Dragons. He has also shown his ability to push through the midfield and provide spark as well, adding to his value as a top-10 prospect.
Around the mark: Josh Rachele, Neil Erasmus
10. Freo ...... Erasmus
11. StK ....... Andrew
12. WCE ...... Goater
13. Ess ........ Rachele
14. GWS ...... Draper
15. Syd ........ Ward
16. GWS bid ... Fahey
17. Bris ......... Wilmot
18. Rich ........ Matthew Johnson
16/03/2003 | 193cm | 80kg | Inside Midfielder | Subiaco (WA)
WAFL Colts: 6 games | 21.3 disp | 0.5 goals
In possession of Geelong’s first-round pick, the Tigers have found some gems out of Western Australia in the past, consistently going across the Nullarbor with the likes of Shai Bolton and Nathan Broad, and more recently Matthew Parker in the mid-season draft. With Johnson, they get an appealing size for a contested midfielder, who possesses good agility and hands in the contest. He’s struggled to find his feet at senior level for Subiaco but there’s plenty of special traits he’s displayed to suggest he’ll excel at the elite level given time.
Around the mark: Ned Long, Mitch Knevitt
19. Port ........ Chesser
20. Bris ........ Conway
Be surprised if we took Sinn if Erasmus, Rachelle & Ward are all still on the board....not to mention using our first pick on yet another hbf.... :shh
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Ultimate guide: The top 70 AFL Draft prospects
All eyes are about to turn to the 2021 AFL Draft. Get to know who’s available in our interactive dossier featuring full profiles and stats on 70 of the country’s best prospects.
https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/afl-draft-2021-dossier-profiles-and-stats-on-all-the-top-prospects/news-story/5e9141ca952455cefcc63aa9f65e0f79
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The top prospects, future trade hurdle and clubs who could have the most impact: AFL draft state of play
Ben Waterworth
Fox Sports
September 15th, 2021 2:40 pm
While clubs will soon hit the trade table, the national draft set to be held later in the year is also front of mind.
The ‘fab four’, the future trade hurdles, the tricky new rule and the clubs who could do the most damage come November.
Foxfooty.com.au analyses the state of play on the 2021 AFL draft.
HOW DOES THIS TALENT POOL STACK UP – AND WHO ARE SOME OF THE TOP PROSPECTS?
Despite so many prospects’ seasons being interrupted by Covid-enforced pauses, clubs are genuinely excited by this year’s pool and the evenness across potentially three rounds.
Six of the young guns taken within the first 10 picks of last year’s national draft were key-position prospects. This year, however, it’s more of a hybrid draft, with the top of the pool to almost certainly feature more on-ballers, small forwards and rebound defenders.
There are four clear standouts — a ‘fab four’, if you like. Star Collingwood father-son candidate Nick Daicos and South Adelaide midfielder Jason Horne-Francis have been ranked in the top two from start to finish this year, while Bulldogs father-son prospect Sam Darcy and Sandringham Dragons on-baller Finn Callaghan have moved into top-five contention as their excellent 2021 campaigns have progressed.
From there, some recruiters believe you could “throw a blanket” over as many as 50 players, such is the evenness of the players on offer.
Others say there’s a peloton of four to six players chasing the top four. GWV Rebels defender Josh Gibcus and versatile Dandenong Stingrays ruckman Mac Andrew have roared into top-10 calculations, while GWV inside midfielder Ben Hobbs and Northern Knights ball magnet Josh Ward are also in the top-10 mix.
WA should also be well represented in the first round.
Subiaco midfielder Neil Erasmus is his state’s leading prospect at this stage, while teammate Matthew Johnson is also in the first-round mix after playing in all three WAFL grades this season. East Perth’s Jye Amiss is arguably the best key forward in the open draft after booting a WAFL colts season-high 51 goals — and just 14 behinds. He’d be perfect for Essendon at Pick 11, but he might be off the board by then.
Murray Bushrangers half-forward Josh Rachele looms as one of the most fascinating prospects. Uber talented, confident and electric around goal, the 180cm goalsneak is one of the most exciting players in this year’s pool. But recruiters are also wary of taking a punt on a small forward so early in the order.
Some prospects, like Eastern Ranges’ Tyler Sonsie, Sandringham’s Josh Sinn and Northern Knights’ Campbell Chesser, possess talent that’s worthy of being taken in the top 10, but a lack of continuity this year – either due to injury and Covid-enforced interruptions – might see them taken later in the first round.
WHICH CLUBS WILL HAVE THE BIGGEST SAY IN THE DRAFT?
There’s a lot of recruiters jealous of Richmond’s draft hand – and rightly so.
Compared to the past five years, the Tigers are now in unfamiliar territory. Not only did they miss finals this year, they have a stacked draft hand that includes two picks in each of the first, second and third rounds – and that’s before any possible trade involving Callum Coleman-Jones. As it stands, that’s Picks 7, 15, 26, 28, 40 and 44.
It gives Richmond ample scope at the trade table to add players to a list still seen by experts as flag contenders next year. At the same time, it’s a golden chance for the Tigers to add top-end talent via the draft.
If they went down the path of the latter, they’d then have the option of packaging up those selections and offering them to a rival club in a bid to move up the draft order.
https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/draft/afl-draft-2021-order-news-top-prospects-future-trade-selections-new-bidding-rules-mac-andrew-melbourne/news-story/3f9c57e3ca550bbc86b0fc21bfa5bed0
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If we get 20 for CCJ leaving us with 7, 15, 20, 26 & 28 with 40 & 44 as valuable commodities if it as even as it says here.
Add Tahlia for back up, Doldo back with Ryan as back up plus Colina if he comes back.
I would say Ryan has as much upside as CCJ anyway.
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pick 20 for a player who has had 4 years development who was a pick 20 :huh :huh :huh
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pick 20 for a player who has had 4 years development who was a pick 20 :huh :huh :huh
If it’s offered I’d take it and run!!!
Second option is they walk him straight into the PSD and get him
for nothing.
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Pick 20's fair enough....though GC probably would've coughed up pick 3 .. :shh
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Best option is to up our offer, surely we can step up
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Good first round phantom draft by the guys at theinnersanctum.com.au have us taking Josh Sinn (Sandringham) at 9 and Matthew Johnson (Subiaco) at 18.
Here's the link: https://www.theinnersanctum.com.au/afl-phantom-draft/
1. North .... Horne-Francis
2. Coll bid .... Daicos
3. Dogs bid .... Darcy
4. GWS ........ Callaghan
5. GC ........... Gibcus
6. Adel ........ Roberts
7. Haw ........ Sonsie
8. Carl ........ Hobbs
9. Rich ........ Josh Sinn
7/01/2003 | 186cm | 82kg | General Defender | Sandringham Dragons/Vic Metro
NAB League: 5 games | 17.6 disp | 3.4 marks
Sinn is a pure line-breaker who could be a fantastic long-term replacement for the departing Bachar Houli coming out of defence. The Tigers have been found wanting with Jayden Short needing a helping hand to gain metres from the backline, and Sinn is a 100-metre player with his pace and booming kick for the Dragons. He has also shown his ability to push through the midfield and provide spark as well, adding to his value as a top-10 prospect.
Around the mark: Josh Rachele, Neil Erasmus
10. Freo ...... Erasmus
11. StK ....... Andrew
12. WCE ...... Goater
13. Ess ........ Rachele
14. GWS ...... Draper
15. Syd ........ Ward
16. GWS bid ... Fahey
17. Bris ......... Wilmot
18. Rich ........ Matthew Johnson
16/03/2003 | 193cm | 80kg | Inside Midfielder | Subiaco (WA)
WAFL Colts: 6 games | 21.3 disp | 0.5 goals
In possession of Geelong’s first-round pick, the Tigers have found some gems out of Western Australia in the past, consistently going across the Nullarbor with the likes of Shai Bolton and Nathan Broad, and more recently Matthew Parker in the mid-season draft. With Johnson, they get an appealing size for a contested midfielder, who possesses good agility and hands in the contest. He’s struggled to find his feet at senior level for Subiaco but there’s plenty of special traits he’s displayed to suggest he’ll excel at the elite level given time.
Around the mark: Ned Long, Mitch Knevitt
19. Port ........ Chesser
20. Bris ........ Conway
Be surprised if we took Sinn if Erasmus, Rachelle & Ward are all still on the board....not to mention using our first pick on yet another hbf.... :shh
Still don’t know why Conner McDonald isn’t on this list. :shh
A lot of clubs very interested and looking at him now.
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We won't get 20.
North will probably offer 38 or go to PSD.
I'd be asking for 20 and offering to throw in 44 if they aren't keen.
Over a barrel!
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20 would give us 5 picks inside the top 30 so we might as well chuck 'em 40 & 44 as we probably wouldn't use either of them unless we had plans to bundle them up as part of a trade for another higher pick.... :shh
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I would think 40, 44 and the chol compo would be able to fetch us another first rounder. Think the dogs would be keen to trade their first since it’ll just get used on Darcy f/s and they’d want the points. So if something like that were to happen and we got 20 for CJ that would leave us with 6 picks in the top 30…..that’s a draft haul if I’ve ever seen one.
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I would think 40, 44 and the chol compo would be able to fetch us another first rounder. Think the dogs would be keen to trade their first since it’ll just get used on Darcy f/s and they’d want the points. So if something like that were to happen and we got 20 for CJ that would leave us with 6 picks in the top 30…..that’s a draft haul if I’ve ever seen one.
Would we lose the Chol compo if we pick up another free agent like Talia??
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I would think 40, 44 and the chol compo would be able to fetch us another first rounder. Think the dogs would be keen to trade their first since it’ll just get used on Darcy f/s and they’d want the points. So if something like that were to happen and we got 20 for CJ that would leave us with 6 picks in the top 30…..that’s a draft haul if I’ve ever seen one.
Would we lose the Chol compo if we pick up another free agent like Talia??
I’m not too clued in on all the rules surrounding free agency but I did read in another thread on here today that it wouldn’t given talia is a delisted free agent. Wouldn’t make sense if it did anyway as surely the club could just pick him up in the pre season draft so that it doesn’t impact the chol compensation.
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Good first round phantom draft by the guys at theinnersanctum.com.au have us taking Josh Sinn (Sandringham) at 9 and Matthew Johnson (Subiaco) at 18.
Here's the link: https://www.theinnersanctum.com.au/afl-phantom-draft/
1. North .... Horne-Francis
2. Coll bid .... Daicos
3. Dogs bid .... Darcy
4. GWS ........ Callaghan
5. GC ........... Gibcus
6. Adel ........ Roberts
7. Haw ........ Sonsie
8. Carl ........ Hobbs
9. Rich ........ Josh Sinn
7/01/2003 | 186cm | 82kg | General Defender | Sandringham Dragons/Vic Metro
NAB League: 5 games | 17.6 disp | 3.4 marks
Sinn is a pure line-breaker who could be a fantastic long-term replacement for the departing Bachar Houli coming out of defence. The Tigers have been found wanting with Jayden Short needing a helping hand to gain metres from the backline, and Sinn is a 100-metre player with his pace and booming kick for the Dragons. He has also shown his ability to push through the midfield and provide spark as well, adding to his value as a top-10 prospect.
Around the mark: Josh Rachele, Neil Erasmus
10. Freo ...... Erasmus
11. StK ....... Andrew
12. WCE ...... Goater
13. Ess ........ Rachele
14. GWS ...... Draper
15. Syd ........ Ward
16. GWS bid ... Fahey
17. Bris ......... Wilmot
18. Rich ........ Matthew Johnson
16/03/2003 | 193cm | 80kg | Inside Midfielder | Subiaco (WA)
WAFL Colts: 6 games | 21.3 disp | 0.5 goals
In possession of Geelong’s first-round pick, the Tigers have found some gems out of Western Australia in the past, consistently going across the Nullarbor with the likes of Shai Bolton and Nathan Broad, and more recently Matthew Parker in the mid-season draft. With Johnson, they get an appealing size for a contested midfielder, who possesses good agility and hands in the contest. He’s struggled to find his feet at senior level for Subiaco but there’s plenty of special traits he’s displayed to suggest he’ll excel at the elite level given time.
Around the mark: Ned Long, Mitch Knevitt
19. Port ........ Chesser
20. Bris ........ Conway
Rather than Sinn and Johnson id rather Erasmus and Ward.
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I'd be happy with a future second for CCJ, sets us up for another 3 picks in the first 2 rounds.
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I would think 40, 44 and the chol compo would be able to fetch us another first rounder. Think the dogs would be keen to trade their first since it’ll just get used on Darcy f/s and they’d want the points. So if something like that were to happen and we got 20 for CJ that would leave us with 6 picks in the top 30…..that’s a draft haul if I’ve ever seen one.
Would we lose the Chol compo if we pick up another free agent like Talia??
Talia was delisted so it wouldn't effect compo. :shh
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No way I would take a future 2nd rounder for CCJ.
You just never know how teams will go year on year and could be 25 or worse. If we can get 20 this year that is fair and reasonable
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No way I would take a future 2nd rounder for CCJ.
You just never know how teams will go year on year and could be 25 or worse. If we can get 20 this year that is fair and reasonable
We won't get that, not unless we send something back at a minimum.
We are lucky if they offer 38.
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Best kick in the draft with AFL royalty in his bloodline
Cal Twomey and Nat Edwards discuss the top two draft prospects in this year's pool.
Watch here: https://www.afl.com.au/video/677042/best-kick-in-the-draft-with-afl-royalty-in-his-bloodline?videoId=677042&modal=true&type=video&publishFrom=1631736000001 (https://www.afl.com.au/video/677042/best-kick-in-the-draft-with-afl-royalty-in-his-bloodline?videoId=677042&modal=true&type=video&publishFrom=1631736000001)
Either potentially available at our Geelong pick (#15).
15. Campbell Chesser
Midfielder/defender
186cm/83kg
27/4/03
Sandringham Dragons/Vic Country
Chesser is an attacking player who moves well, kicks long and plays with energy. The mobile midfielder has also been used off half-back and on the wing at stages and has shown he can impact games with his kicking and run. A knee injury has bugged him this season, seeing him go in for surgery earlier this year and cause some more disruption but if games get back for Victorian prospects the 18-year-old, who is considered one of the most solid characters in the group, will be ready to hit the ground running.
18. Nasiah Wanganeen-Milera
Midfielder
187cm/69kg
22/2/03
Glenelg/South Australia
One of the best kicks in the draft. You want the ball in Wanganeen-Milera's hands because his capacity to find a teammate with a long or short kick is as good as any in the pool, often perfectly weighting his passes. Wanganeen-Milera is a wingman who can also play off the flanks at either end and his size and shape makes him a modern prototype. The nephew of Essendon and Port Adelaide great Gavin Wanganeen and son of former Saint Terry was his side's best player in its opening championships game against Western Australia with a poised display. One who could spike late.
https://www.afc.com.au/news/1012288/cal-twomeys-phantom-form-guide-top-draft-prospects-august-ranking
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AFL Draft Power Rankings Top 20: A ‘fab four’, a peloton and an even spread from there
Ben Waterworth
Fox Sports
September 16th, 2021 5:13 pm
You could almost split this year’s AFL draft crop into three sections.
There’s a ‘fab four’ followed by a peloton of four to six players. Then you could almost throw a blanket over the next 40, such is the evenness of talent across the class.
With the help of Champion Data and recruiters, foxfooty.com.au ranks the top 20 prospects of this year’s draft class just over two months out from the big night.
1. Nick Daicos (Oakleigh Chargers)
Park the famous father-son link and focus on the player — and Daicos is widely viewed by recruiters as the best player in this year’s draft class. The definition of a ball magnet at 183cm, Daicos led the NAB League for disposals (35.8 ) and uncontested possessions (23.0) this year, while he also kicked two goals per match. He averaged a lazy 40-plus disposals from his last three matches of the season. Daicos, the son of Collingwood champion and premiership star Peter Daicos, is almost certain to attract a bid from a rival club early. If North doesn’t pull the trigger with Pick 1, the Giants will at Pick 2. Nonetheless, the Pies will eventually have enough picks to match the bid for Daicos, who’ll slot right into a Magpies on-ball brigade in need of another genuine ball-winner.
2. Jason Horne-Francis (South Adelaide)
An outstanding South Australian midfield prospect at 183cm who’s widely considered the best player in the ‘open’ draft pool. Horne-Francis was thrown in the deep end this season, playing 18 SANFL league games for the Panthers. His 16.1 disposal average wasn’t breathtaking, but he showed he can have an impact at either end, rating elite for intercepts marks (0.9) and above average for goals (0.7). His three-goal, 22-disposal against Central District last month, though, was eye-catching. Horne-Francis is renowned for his power and aggression at the contest, but his ball use and outside class is just as impressive. The Crows could make a bold play to trade up the draft order to secure him, but it’s hard to see the Kangaroos accepting that and passing this young star up.
3. Sam Darcy (Oakleigh Chargers)
Another famous Dogs name is almost certain to return to the kennel in Darcy — the son of best and fairest and All-Australian Luke Darcy. And he’s not just any ordinary key-position player. At 204cm, Darcy possesses superb versatility and athleticism, which allow him to play in any third of the ground. He spent time in defence in his three NAB league matches and averaged 3.3 intercept marks and 5.7 intercept possessions. Then Darcy played forward in his two trial matches and averaged 3.0 contested marks, while his six-goal haul for Vic Metro in a trial game against Vic Country saw him shoot up club draft boards. The Dogs will bank points to ensure they can match a Darcy bid, which could come as early as Pick 2.
4. Finn Callaghan (Sandringham Dragons)
One recruiter said there’s “a bit of Bontempelli” about the way Callaghan moves in and out of stoppages. At 189cm, Callaghan is a great size for the modern-day midfielder with terrific kicking skills, while he also has great poise, both in tight and in space, to help him break lines. He played his first three NAB League games playing more as midfield-defender, averaging just 18.7 disposals. But he really separated himself from the pack in his last three matches as a more permanent midfielder, averaging 30.0 disposals, 4.7 clearances and 5.3 score involvements. He rounds off the ‘fab four’ of Daicos, Horne-Francis and Darcy in this year’s draft class.
5. Ben Hobbs (GWV Rebels)
Any club with a top-end pick looking for a contested possession winner should look at this guy. The 183cm inside midfielder is a master at winning the ball at the coalface while his clearance work is excellent thanks to his quick hands. Yet unlike a lot of inside midfielders, Hobbs has great composure with the ball when in tight, often opting against thumping the ball forward by foot. Excluding one match where he got injured, he averaged 29.2 disposals, 6.2 clearances and kicked 0.8 goals in the NAB League. But Hobbs was arguably more impressive in the trial matches, averaging 31.5 disposals and 1.5 goals from those two games.
6. Josh Ward (Northern Knights)
One for SuperCoach owners to keep an eye on when he hits AFL club land. The 181cm midfielder’s stocks have risen significantly this year, averaging 30.2 disposals in the NAB League — the second-most behind only Daicos — off the back of terrific workrate. Ward finished the season strong with 33-plus disposals from his last three matches. Recruiters earlier in the year had some doubts over his ability to hit the scoreboard — he kicked two behinds and failed to kick a goal in the NAB League — but he managed 3.3 from his two trial matches.
7. Josh Gibcus (GWV Rebels)
Think Jake Lever. The quintessential modern-day defender at 195cm, recruiters can see Gibcus becoming a genuine second backman at AFL club land that can play man-on-man but also intercept. He was ranked first among defenders who played at least five NAB League matches this season for intercept possessions (7.9) and intercept marks (3.2). Although he defended just eight one-on-one contests from his 10 NAB League matches, so it’ll be fascinating to see how he develops in that area at AFL level. Still, recruiters say he has a “ridiculous” vertical leap, while he also has strong aerobic capacity and good footy nous.
8. Mac Andrew (Dandenong Stingrays)
The Melbourne Next Generation Academy prospect has probably been the biggest bolter across the season. He would have to put on size and ultimately be a long-term prospect for any club that picked him up, but his athleticism and ability to play across all thirds of the ground at 200cm excites AFL clubs. Excluding his NAB League match where he got injured, Andrew averaged 15.2 disposals from his five games – the most of any ruckman – according to Champion Data. His hit-out-to-advantage rate of 18.1 per cent was also ranked fourth among the NAB League’s top 50 ruckmen for ruck contests. The AFL has changed the in-draft NGA bidding rules for 2021, with clubs with existing links to multicultural and Indigenous Academy players unable to match bids inside the top 20 selections. While Andrew is raw, recruiters believe there’s “no chance” he’s slipping outside of the top 20, especially after his performance in a Vic Metro trial game at Windy Hill earlier this year. It means the Dees are almost certain to miss out on him.
9. Josh Rachele (Murray Bushrangers)
An uber-talented forward-midfielder blessed with goalkicking nous and x-factor, Rachele looms as one of the most fascinating and exciting prospects. The 180cm goalsneak kicked 11 goals from four NAB League matches — the best goals-per-match average in the competition — while he also ranked second for average score involvements (7.5). Rachele, though, was used sparingly in the midfield, averaging 18.5 disposals and 2.5 clearances. He also won the Kevin Sheehan medal in 2019 as the best player in the Under 16 national championships representing Vic Country. Recruiters are wary of taking a punt on a small forward so early in the order, but on talent alone he’s worthy of a top-five pick.
10. Jye Amiss (East Perth)
Arguably the best key forward in the open draft at 195cm. Amiss kicked a WAFL colts season-high 51 goals this season — the most by a player in that competition since 2015. Just as impressively, he only kicked 14 behinds, proving he’s a dead-eye in front of goal in an AFL era where there aren’t a lot of accurate shooters. Amiss also ranked second in the WAFL colts for contested marks (3.0) and No. 1 for marks inside 50 (3.5), yet also has good athleticism below his knees. He’d be perfect for Essendon at Pick 11, but he might be off the board by then, especially if the Dockers want to fill their key forward chasm — with a local WA lad — via the draft.
11. Neil Erasmus (Subiaco)
Hard to split Erasmus and Amiss as WA’s best prospect. The 188cm midfielder had a stunning start to his season and has only improved as the year has progressed. He was the second-highest ranked player in the WAFL colts, according to Champion Data, and ranked among the top five players for disposals, contested possessions, intercept marks, clearances and score assists. Erasmus averaged 28 disposals from his four WAFL colts games, but showed in last year’s grand final in the same competition that he can be dangerous up forward, kicking four goals as a bottom-ager in Subiaco’s premiership triumph.
12. Tyler Sonsie (Eastern Ranges)
On talent alone, Sonsie is a top-five draft prospect. But a lack of continuity this year, both due to injury and Covid-enforced interruptions, has probably seen the 181cm prospect slip a little. Recruiters, though, still fondly remember his Under 16s national championships two years ago, earning the MVP award in Vic Metro’s undefeated carnival-winning side. He then played a key role in the back-half of the Eastern Ranges’ Nab league campaign, earning a spot in the grand final team as a 16-year-old. Sonsie started the 2021 season well with 34 disposals and two goals in his first NAB League game before an eye-catching two-goal, 24-disposal game for the Box Hill Hawks under Sam Mitchell in his first VFL match. But from his other four NAB League matches, he averaged just 20 disposals and less than one goal a game. Recruiters know he’s had injury issues this season, but would still like to see him work on his defensive running.
13. Josh Goater (Calder Cannons)
Looms as a fan favourite at AFL level. At 190cm, Goater is an athletic yet slightly taller prospect compared to some of the other midfielders at the top of his draft class. Interestingly, he won more disposals in defence than in the midfield this season. In his first five NAB League matches, he averaged 21.6 disposals 5.2 clearance as a midfielder then 30.5 disposals, 4.0 intercept marks and 8.5 intercept possessions. Goater could be a player that could bolt into the top 10 or be on the cusp of the first round come draft night.
14. Josh Sinn (Sandringham Dragons)
Speed, metres gained and speed. Sinn has shown promising dash off half-back with genuine burst and leg speed, but if he can improve his aerobic capacity a bit more, he could be a full-time midfielder at AFL level. As a 186cm impact line-breaker, Sinn’s NAB League numbers in a frustrating, injury-interrupted season weren’t huge, averaging just 17.6 disposals. But his run and carry ability saw him average a combined 6.8 inside 50s and rebound 50s — the most of any player to average fewer than 20 disposals. He was Sandringham’s skipper too, so he possesses strong leadership capabilities.
15. Matthew Johnson (Subiaco)
Recruiters were probably expecting Johnson to improve a bit more as the season progressed, especially due to the opportunities WA prospects had compared to their eastern-state prospects. But they still have high hopes for the tall midfielder (192cm), who got a taste of all three WAFL competitions in 2021. He averaged 21.8 disposals and 119 ranking points in six colts matches before getting an upgrade to league level where he averaged just 6.7 disposals and 31 ranking points from three WAFL matches. But Johnson has impressed in recent reserves matches, including a 23-disposal, nine-mark, one-goal performance in Subiaco’s elimination final win over West Perth.
16. Arlo Draper (South Adelaide)
Might be a little low for some recruiters, but could land anywhere between Picks 10 and 20 on draft night at this stage. An inside midfielder at 185cm, Draper played across all three SANFL competitions this season. In the Under 18s he averaged 24.4 disposals and 6.6 clearances. In the reserves he averaged 15.7 disposals and 4.0 clearances. Draper got two games at league level last month, accumulating 11 touches in both games. But his ability to hit the scoreboard at Under 18s level was crucial, booting 8.2 from his first four games this year. Again a player that could push the top 10 or the end of the first round.
17. Campbell Chesser (Sandringham Dragons)
Chesser played more in the midfield this season, but might be suited as a rebounding defender at AFL level. He didn’t find as much of the ball as other top prospects, averaging just 18.7 disposals in the NAB League with a contested possession rate of 27 per cent. But his 4.7 inside 50s were the most of any player to average fewer than 20 disposals. He’s been hit hard by injury and Covid-enforced season pauses over the past two seasons, Chesser has really impressed recruiters with his attitude.
18. Nasiah Wanganeen-Milera (Glenelg)
A first-round bolter after an excellent 2021 campaign where he showed off his excellent kicking skills and ability to link his teammates up between the arcs. He spent the majority of the first half of the season in the reserves where he had an impact across a lot of areas, averaging 15.5 disposals, 3.5 intercept possessions, 4.7 score involvements and 0.4 goals. Wanganeen-Milera then was upgraded to Glenelg’s league team and fitted in with aplomb, averaging 11.0 disposals and 5.0 handball receives. As his surname suggests, the 187cm prospect has a great footy pedigree, being the nephew of Essendon and Port Adelaide champion Gavin Wanganeen and the son of Terry Milera, who played 30 games for the Saints last decade.
19. Matthew Roberts (South Adelaide)
An injury-interrupted season, but has worked his way into his club’s SANFL league team late in the year alongside Jason Horne-Francis. Roberts absolutely blitzed his first three Under 18s games, kicking five goals and averaging 32.0 disposals, 8.3 marks, 7.7 tackles, 7.7 inside 50s, 6.3 clearances and a lazy 201 ranking points. That saw him elevated to South Adelaide’s league team where he’s played five games. While his form at top level has been a little patchy, Roberts has played two promising matches against the bigger SANFL bodies, finishing with 20 touches and seven inside 50s against North Adelaide before a two-goal, 13-disposal outing against West Adelaide. With good endurance, work ethic and a developing inside-outside balance, Roberts could be a player a club picks then could play senior footy pretty early next season.
20. Sam Butler (GWV Rebels)
If he’s as exciting as his brother is at AFL level, we’ve got another fan favourite. A shrewd player with great strength at the contest, Butler — the brother of premiership Tiger and Saints forward Dan Butler — has made his way up draft boards as the year has progressed to be in first-round contention. He kicked three goals against the Falcons in Round 2 but has looked just as capable when playing up the field. Among mid-forwards in the NAB League, Butler ranked first for contested possessions (9.2), tackles (4.8 ) and goals (0.8 ). Of note, he averaged more disposals, contested possessions and tackles than his brother when he was in the NAB League, but Dan averaged 1.2 goals per match.
https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/draft/afl-draft-2021-rankings-afl-draft-2021-prospects-news-order-date-picks-mock-draft/news-story/72d83774b7a00697dbae028996c3f621
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The top end – first round prospects
* The top two – Daicos and Horne-Francis
* The safe/reliable picks – Hobbs, Ward, Erasmus, Roberts
* The classy types – Callaghan, Sonsie, Johnson, Wanganeen-Milera
* The versatile/hybrid types – Draper, Sinn, Rachele, Goater, Chesser
https://afl.draftcentral.com.au/2021/09/15/pocket-podcast-the-midfielders-draft/
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FIRST ROUND PROSPECTS
The top two
It is no secret that Nick Daicos and Jason Horne-Francis are regarded by many as the top two prospects in this year’s draft, and they just so happen to both be midfielders. While clear of the competition, they are very different types and have varying weapons which they lean on.
Daicos is an accumulator who offers an outrageously consistent output with his work-rate, unrivalled smarts, and team-oriented play. While he brings class and grace, Horne-Francis is more of a bull at the coalface with his explosiveness and noted aggression at both ball and carrier. He can open games up with penetrating kicks and high marks, bring his impact per possession to a high level.
The safe/reliable picks
Reliability is a major factor in what clubs look for in their potential draftees, and there are a selection of midfielders which can certainly offer as much among the 2021 crop. For much of the pathway, Ben Hobbs has been one who looks ready to go with his mature frame and strength in contested situations now complimented by hard running and consistent disposal outputs.
Fellow Victorian Josh Ward has added inside elements to his game this season to rise into top 10 contention, complimenting his running ability and wonderfully clean skills with some real grunt in midfield. Over in Western Australia, Neil Erasmus has put up exceptional numbers at PSA and WAFL Colts level, while Matthew Roberts has taken well to senior football in the SANFL.
While Hobbs, Erasmus and Roberts have all battled injury this year around their runs of form, all four players here are the types who will perform each week and look safe bets as 200-game players for the future. They are reliable, tough, and hard-working, so should provide great value in the first round.
The classy types
Many clubs will value midfielders who can not only win the ball at a good rate, but also use it well. This year, there are a few who fit this category with enviable class on the ball and elite decision making which really puts them above many others in the draft class.
Arguably atop the list, and one who could fit a range of categories is Finn Callaghan. The Sandringham Dragons powerhouse has been a big improver this year, developing from a half-back and wingman to become an outstanding centre bounce operator. At 189cm, he has the build of a modern day midfielder but moves so gracefully in traffic, never rushed and always able to manufacture a bit of space before delivering effective disposals.
Tyler Sonsie is a prospect who fits this mould perfectly, and was considered a top five candidate coming into the year. Injury has interrupted his campaign, but the Eastern Ranges midfielder is as poised as they come in possession with top level vision and skills coming out of congestion. His ability to roll forward and find the goals is another string to his bow, and an important point of difference.
Another couple of dynamic types with plenty of class are Matthew Johnson and Nasiah Wanganeen-Milera. While one has slid a touch as the other has risen this year, there is no denying that both players use the ball beautifully by foot and are two of the more elite kicks going around. At 193cm, Johnson features more at the centre bounces and moves well in traffic, while Wanganeen-Milera has tricks on the outside and can carve up the opposition in space.
The versatile/hybrid types
Hybrid is a bit of an in-vogue word at the moment, but in this sense we’re talking about the players who are versatile and can impact in other areas of the ground before eventually becoming more permanent midfielders, or pinch-hitting there.
There is a good handful of first round talent which suits this mould, starting with South Australian Arlo Draper. He fares well at stoppages and can certainly get his hands on the ball there, but adds a point of difference with his ability to take marks and kick goals up forward. He has been more of a midfielder-forward at Under 18s level, but has spent more time among the front half in senior grades.
Prominent Sandringham Dragons pair Josh Sinn and Campbell Chesser are players who have notable outside traits, including their speed, line-breaking ability, and kicking skills. Both have developed across half-back and the wing, but can just as capably play on the inside and are true metres-gained assets in all roles.
Along with the above pair, Josh Rachele has been a standout throughout the pathways and while he has more often been used as a half-forward for Murray and Vic Country, can certainly impact with his speed and skill in midfield. From small to tall, Josh Goater is a big-bodied type on the inside who can essentially play anywhere. He has clean hands and unreal athleticism, which boded well for his most recent move to half-back with plenty of run and intercept marking.
DEPTH – OTHERS TO CONSIDER
It’s not just a midfielder’s draft in the first round, with many top ball winners rising into contention or remaining around the mark. There is a healthy scattering of players from different regions, offering a diverse range of skills and mostly being available in the open draft.
Zac Taylor and Mitch Knevitt offer very different styles, but both were in sensational form before the latest Victorian lockdown. Dandenong Stingrays pair Judson Clarke and Connor Macdonald are smaller types with terrific craft, while Jake Soligo is another in that mould. Elsewhere, St Kilda fans with have their eyes on exciting NGA pair Marcus Windhager and Mitch Owens, while Northern’s Ned Long is one to keep an eye on.
Western Australia’s engine room has proven very strong in representative hitouts, with a good mix of hardened inside types and accumulating outside runners. Josh Browne is as consistent as they come, while Corey Warner offers some forward drive on the outer, and Taj Woewodin is a Melbourne father-son candidate with nice traits. On the inside, Kade Dittmar and Angus Sheldrick are absolute bulls, with Dittmar’s East Perth teammate James Tunstill another to consider.
Port Adelaide has its own father-son prospect in Jase Burgoyne, who is a really classy type. He is quite light-on though, and may have to lean on his versatility to play off half-back before entering the midfield fray. Elsewhere, Hugh Jackson had an outstanding first half of the season to put his name in the spotlight, and Cooper Murley arguably possesses top 25 talent, but has been struck down by injury for much of the year.
https://afl.draftcentral.com.au/2021/09/16/podcast-explainer-the-midfielders-draft/
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When is this Jase Burgoyne likely to go in the draft? Wondering if Port would trade their #16 for lower picks to get points for matching a bid or just straight up taking him.
Regardless I hope we get a guy like Schlensog, a KPF, DFA like Talia, and at least two good mids.
One of the following scenarios should suffice:
WB might take 28 + 40 + 44 for 17, points for Darcy.
Port might take 26 + 38 (north for CCJ) + 50 (3rd round Chol compo) for 16, points or picks for Burgoyne.
We could go draft with 7, 15, either 16 or 17, then another 3 picks between 26-50.
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From the HeraldSun's draft dossier:
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Other draft profiles behind the paywall: https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/afl-draft-2021-dossier-profiles-and-stats-on-all-the-top-prospects/news-story/5e9141ca952455cefcc63aa9f65e0f79?fbclid=IwAR0JI0IpdtPOxT9hV2Yc0qy-tBJvk6UlF4wOzZv9FEq5RYvl0TrCfkvODyg
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I don't mind the kid Draper anyone reckon he will be there at 15.
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Foxfooty.com.au's Ben Waterworth reveals the top 10 prospects in the 2021 Draft, including a Fab Four leading the way.
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Watch here: https://www.foxsports.com.au/video/afl/afl/top-10-afl-draft-prospects!810207
Hobbs & Ward - inside mids
Gibcus - plays like Jake Lever
Andrew - best ruck in the draft
Rachele - plays like Toby Greene
Amiss - best KP forward in the draft. Unlike his surname he rarely misses in front of the big sticks.
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I know nothing about this draft, what’s the key position players looking like ? We need to gain 2 in the draft IMO. With chol and ccj leaving we are basically left with jack and lynch up fwd and 2022 will likely be Jack’s last year.
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Apparently a poor year for talls but a good crop next year....maybe we should just keep our first and trade the rest for next year's picks....just grab the likes of Schlensog, Freeman & Josh Green with late/rookie picks...play the kids we already have and if we have another shyte year then at least we'll have another strong hand in a better draft ...hopefully next year's prospects will get to play a full season & a full champs as well so it won't be as speculative as this year's draft...will make for a very boring silly season this year but perhaps better strategy in the long term? :shh
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Would have no issue with selecting Matt Roberts. Left foot mid who is holding his own in the seniors for South Adelaide.
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I know nothing about this draft, what’s the key position players looking like ? We need to gain 2 in the draft IMO. With chol and ccj leaving we are basically left with jack and lynch up fwd and 2022 will likely be Jack’s last year.
Three i like VanRooyen, Amiss, and Kpd Bazzo. There is also Gibcus but he wont get to us.
Personally i think Fremantle will weigh up heavily between Erasmus and Amiss.
The one they don"t take will probably go to WCE.
If we are after a key forward then it may be we take Amiss or kpd Gibcus if he slides with our first pick as we will still have possibly two picks still in the first round to use on Mids.
The other key forward that will be available is Van Rooyen also a west aussie.I dont think he will get to our pick 15 as i reckon Essendon are into him but we could throw the dice and take a mid at 7-9 and hope Van Rooyen is there at 15-17.
I think Van Rooyen is in the ball park as a worthy pick at 15 regardless of weather he meets a need or not.
It may be a shallow draft for talls but what talls are there look pretty good.
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AFL Draft Power Rankings September 2021 top 50 and tier list:
Watch here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xAjYGjloLY4
This guy has a different order to most phantom drafts and explains why. Goes into a bit of detail on each kid.
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I want us to trade up to a top-5 pick so we can get Fin Callaghan.
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#metoo :shh
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Zac Taylor with pick 20 please :pray
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I want us to trade up to a top-5 pick so we can get Fin Callaghan.
Seems a sure thing he will go #4 unfortunately. So we'd need pick #2. Don't think we'll manage that.
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Draft intel: Who the Tigers will target with pick 7
Richmond intends to hold onto its two first-round picks in this year’s draft. Who is on the club’s radar? See which young guns the Tigers could swoop on.
WHO’S IN THE MIX THIS YEAR?
Unlike last year, the Tigers have indicated their intention is to hold onto their two first-round picks.
They will have a plethora of options in a draft which is heavy in quality midfielders at the top of the order.
Players like tough Greater Western Victoria Rebels midfielder Ben Hobbs and silky Sandringham Dragons onballer Finn Callaghan could be in the mix at pick 7.
The Tigers have also picked up a lot of players from the Northern Knights in recent years and would have a close eye on Josh Ward.
Highly-rated Rebels key defender Josh Gibcus is another player who could come into calculations as the Tigers look to life beyond the retired David Astbury and the ageing Dylan Grimes.
He is not a top-end pick but the Tigers also have access to Bendigo Pioneers midfielder-forward Nyawi Moore, who is eligible to join Essendon as a father-son where his dad Nathan Lovett-Murray played 145 games.
Along with the Bombers link, Moore is a member of Richmond’s Next Generation Academy.
https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/afl-draft-2021-what-will-your-club-do-with-its-first-pick/news-story/42025e7317912eb3ceb25e43a87e9dcf
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Horne-Francis BOG last night. Will be a star this kid :shh
3 goals 25+ possessions was clearly the most talented player on the ground. North will be lucky to have him.
Matt Roberts was solid with 2 goals playing HFF. Looks to be an inside mid and will become a very good player.
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Stream for the SA vs WA U19s curtain-raiser here:
https://www.afl.com.au/news/679778/watch-it-live-wa-v-sa-u19-challenge-match-from-1pm-awst-3pm-aest
Amiss has apparently hyper-extended his knee. [Edit: he's back out there at FF although limping]
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The teams:
Western Australia
3. R. Farmer
5. K. Harbour
6. Z. Fleiner
5. K. Harbour
7. C. Bourne
8. J. Stretch
10. A. Jones
12. L. Paton
14. S. Gilbey
15. F. Gorringe (c)
17. L. Michael
19. K. Dittmar
20. J. Tunstill
22. J. Avery
23. M. Johnson
24. J. Busslinger
26. K. Bevan
27. O. Armstrong
29. J. van Rooyen
30. J. Amiss
31. E. Benning
32. L. Polson
38. B. Hough
45. J. Broadbent
South Australia
1. I. Dudley
2. B. O’Loughlin
3. W. Spain
6. L. Grubb
7. B. Calvett
8. L. Rayson (c)
9. H. Jackson
11. H. Harrison
12. C. Kennedy
13. N. Wanganeen-Milera
14. J. Owens
17. H. Stagg
18. A. Draper
21. A. D’Aloia
22. M. Liddy
23. C. Beecken
24. L. Whitelum
25. M. Litster
26. S. Linke
27. M. Michalanney
30. J. Parish
31. L. Cooke
32. Z. Becker
33. O. Adams
34. J. Lukac
35. O. Steene
29. H. Lemmey
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Amiss has apparently hyper-extended his knee. [Edit: he's back out there at FF although limping]
Leapt for a mark in a pack and has re-hurt that knee. Stayed down for a bit before getting up and limping off the ground.
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Live stream is crap. Doesn't work
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The commentators just said another potential first rounder Arlo Draper has his arm in a sling (edit: collarbone apparently).
Both he and Amiss haven't played in the second half. Amiss with ice on his knee (possibly a medial they said).
Live stream is crap. Doesn't work
Stream is working for me, Andyy.
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Had to refresh it a few times. Ok on phone. Tried to do it on smart TV but terribly slow
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Van Rooyen pushed forward in the last 2 minutes to kick the winning goal for WA.
WA 8.11-59
SA 8.6-54
Goals:
WA: Jones 2, Van Rooyen, Harbour, Farmer, Bourne, Stretch, Hough
SA: Dudley 3, Owens 2, Jackson, Lemmey, Steene
Leading disposals:
WA:
Johnson 21 & 7 tackles ...... ( named best on ground and best for WA )
Broadbent 16 .... underage ruck (2022 draft)
Paton 15
Polson 15
Jones 15
Bevan 15
Dittmar 14
SA:
O'Loughlin 22 (nephew of Michael) ...... ( named best for SA )
D'Aloia 21 & 7 tackles
Liddy 21
Kennedy 20
Linke 17
Rayson 15
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Watched the third and was glad when it finished. Poor game to watch with not much happening from the guys presenting for selection. Van Rooyen did not feel the leather or get close to a contest- he wasn't alone...
Think the Vic talent will dominate the draft.
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Watched the third and was glad when it finished. Poor game to watch with not much happening from the guys presenting for selection. Van Rooyen did not feel the leather or get close to a contest- he wasn't alone...
Think the Vic talent will dominate the draft.
True it was an ordinary standard. WA were missing a few of their better kids who play tomorrow in the WAFL while Amiss (knee/medial?) & Draper (collarbone) both went off before half-time. SA were missing their best kids such as Horne-Francis & Roberts who played last night for South Adelaide's senior side and kicked 5 of the six Panthers goals between them.
The best skilled player on the ground for mine and one of the best for SA was Wanganeen-Milera.
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https://www.afl.com.au/news/680433/prospective-draft-picks-arlo-draper-jye-amiss-injured-in-u19-curtain-raiser
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Jay Clark in the HeraldSun's live chat:
"I'm told the Tigers have an interest in Ben Hobbs in this year's draft. Competitive midfielder who loves to have a crack.
To get him the Tigers would have to move up from 7 to 3. So, I think there is a big chance there is a deal here between the Suns and Tigers, but plenty to play out."
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A top 50 from another one of BF's regular draft watchers (Chris25):
1. Jason Horne-Francis (184cm, 78kg from SA)
2. Nick Daicos (183cm, 72kg from Vic Metro)
3. Neil Erasmus (188cm, 80kg from WA)
4. Finn Callaghan (189cm, 82kg from Vic Metro)
5. Josh Ward (181cm, 79kg from Vic Metro)
6. Josh Rachele (180cm, 78kg from Vic Country)
7. Matthew Roberts (184cm, 80kg from SA)
8. Sam Darcy (204cm, 75kg from Vic Metro)
9. Nasiah Wanganeen-Milera (188cm, 70kg from SA)
10. Jye Amiss (195cm, 83kg from WA)
I think my opinion has been pretty clear, Jason Horne-Francis is the clear #1. I think he (and Matt Rowell) are the best juniors I've seen. Does that mean he's a future Brownlow winner? Not necessarily. The last junior as good as him to come from the SANFL was Bryce Gibbs. But if I can't be excited over Horne-Francis, then I never can be. He's a star defensively, and I think almost equally as good offensively. In my opinion, JFH is the best prospect and he's about two levels ahead of the next player.
And that #2 is Nick Daicos. And I have him about one level ahead of the next couple of players. I think Daicos is excellent at what he does through the midfield, and is a very dangerous forward as well. He sets up the play well and makes the right choices. The only criticism I've had of him is he floats around the back of the packs too much and pads his stat sheet. If he played forward of centre more, he would be so much more damaging. I'd much rather 25 touches and 1 goal through the middle and across half forward, than 40 touches behind the ball. And the reason I'm pretty optimistic about his future is because I think he'll have to play more of that role.
Next up I have Neil Erasmus and Finn Callaghan about equal. I don't think Erasmus goes as high as BigFooty might pick him, but I really like him and have before the podcast tried to claim him as their own. He's not an elite kick, but he does just about everything else - forward and through the middle. And Callaghan is easily the best outside midfielder in the draft, there's a bit of Josh Kelly to his game - I reckon North would love to pick him, shame Horne-Francis is too good to pass on.
For the rest of the top 10, Josh Ward is one of my favourites and it's a real shame he hasn't gotten to play more this year. I think he's a complete midfielder and an influential one. Matty Roberts is higher than probably most would have, but I just like him. He's more versatile than people might give him credit for and he's just a good solid footballer. He may well drop deep into the teens, but he'll be good value. And Nasiah Wanganeen-Milera, well he's just a star with the ball in hand. Best kick in the draft and is a forward's dream.
The one that stands out on my list would probably be Sam Darcy at #8. There's a very good chance he'd be higher if he'd have played more this year, but obviously he hasn't. So he's not. It's hard not to compare KPPs to those from previous years, and I just don't think Darcy has the game of someone like Thilthorpe or the King's. But, I do still have him as the top KPP in this draft regardless. He might not have the speed off the mark that some do, but not many his size move the way he does. I think he'll make an excellent defender.
11. Josh Sinn (186cm, 73kg from Vic Metro)
12. Matthew Johnson (192cm, 80kg from WA)
13. Arlo Draper (186cm, 75kg from SA)
14. Ben Hobbs (183cm, 80kg from Vic Country)
15. Jacob van Rooyen (194cm, 88kg from WA)
16. Tyler Sonsie (181cm, 77kg from Vic Metro)
17. Josh Gibcus (195cm, 84kg from Vic Country)
18. Mitch Knevitt (193cm, 83kg from Vic Country)
19. Darcy Wilmot (183cm, 75kg from Vic Metro)
20. Josh Goater (190cm, 79kg from Vic Country)
The whole 5-15 group will be interesting to watch. There'll be some perceived sliders and bolters, and I reckon at least a couple of stars will come from this group. So it's not all bad news for the finals teams. This draft has quite a few 190cm mids, with Matt Johnson arguably being the most accomplished. Meanwhile I'm pretty bullish on what Mitch Knevitt can do, and Josh Goater has quite a fan club too.
Josh Gibcus is lower than most would have him, and that's probably more about value than it is a statement about him as a prospect. He does look good and it's easy to see how a team will love him, I'm just not sure I'd be taking a KPD much higher than this - not when I compare the level of midfield talent available in the top 10 versus the second round. I personally prefer Jacob van Rooyen anyway with his forward ability.
21. Leek Alleer (196cm, 84kg from SA)
22. Mac Andrew (200cm, 70kg from Vic Country)
23. Brady Hough (189cm, 71kg from WA)
24. Campbell Chesser (186cm, 83kg from Vic Country)
25. Jesse Motlop (176cm, 74kg from WA)
26. Zac Taylor (180cm, 74kg from Vic Metro)
27. Jack Williams (195cm, 91kg from WA)
28. Ned Long (192cm, 88kg from Vic Metro)
29. Blake Howes (190cm, 79kg from Vic Metro)
30. Cooper Beecken (190cm, 73kg from SA)
I agree with the general idea that the draft really opens up around the second round. You can throw a blanket over about 8-12 guys who'll be in the first round mix, and then the next 20 is pretty even again. And this is where the good clubs earn their salary.
If it's not clear on the main board, the Fremantle board at least knows how highly I've rated Leek Alleer all year. As an intercept defender, he's the best in the draft. As for the other SA boy, I rate Cooper Beecken - I just don't think he's really gotten to show off yet. Unfortunately when you're 190cm in the SA set up, you're always made to play taller and less attacking. There's a Will Day vibe to him though, whether it's off half back or through the wings.
And from there, who knows where clubs will go. Zac Taylor is one who could surprise on draft day, he'd be up there as one of the best kicks on offer. Ned Long and Blake Howes have the desired size and still a good level of unknown/intrigue about them. The same goes for Brady Hough who has shaped as a late riser over the last month.
31. Connor Macdonald (184cm, 65kg from Vic Country)
32. Josh Fahey (186cm, 76kg from GWS)
33. Joshua Browne (185cm, 77kg from WA)
34. Cooper Murley (178cm, 70kg from SA)
35. Rhett Bazzo (195cm, 81kg from WA)
36. Jase Burgoyne (186cm, 65kg from SA)
37. Lewis Rayson (183cm, 69kg from SA)
38. Sam Butler (184cm, 73kg from Vic Country)
39. Isaiah Dudley (168cm, 70kg from SA)
40. Tom Brown (184cm, 73kg from Vic Country)
If I was to put up my rankings from a couple of months ago, a lot of this group would be higher than they are now. So that's promising for the depth of this draft. It's not so much that they've dropped, just that I like others more at the moment. I could see someone like Connor McDonald or Tom Brown go earlier in the second round, and most have Sam Butler higher than this.
Joshua Browne is perhaps the unluckiest one here, he's been around my top 20 for most of the year. After having a month off, he's returned in good form looking at the stats sheet. I just have to watch a bit more before I put him right back up there, hopefully he plays in the next game against SA.
41. Hugh Jackson (181cm, 70kg from SA)
42. James Willis (180cm, 75kg from SA)
43. Judson Clarke (179cm, 69kg from Vic Country)
44. Zac Becker (190cm, 92kg from SA)
45. Toby Conway (204cm, 90kg from Vic Country)
46. Kade Dittmar (186cm, 90kg from WA)
47. Morgan Ferres (190cm, 80kg from SA)
48. Alastair Lord (180cm, 76kg from SA)
49. Will Spain (178cm, 69kg from SA)
50. Luka Whitelum (188cm, 77kg from SA)
And as is customary for me, I've filled the last few spots mainly with some of my top rated South Australians remaining. Hugh Jackson's second half of the year hasn't hit the same heights as the first half, he's getting a bit more attention now but he's still playing some decent football. If it wasn't for injury, I think Alastair Lord's name would be mentioned more as an attacking half back. And I rate Will Spain as one of the safest picks in the draft, at the very least he'll be a very good defensive forward.
https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/2021-young-talent-time.1287669/post-72371482
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"My information is Mac Andrew goes in the top five - I think to GWS.
A shame for Melbourne as he is in their NGA."
- Matt Rendell.
https://twitter.com/traderadio/status/1442387567370928139
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That would be gold
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If we're taking best available regardless of needs with our first pick than for mine it's Wanganeen-Millerra out of those likely to still be on the board.... :shh
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Hoping one of Hobbs Erasmus or Ward will be there , and then if miss, Amiss
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Judging from his "highlights" package, Hobbs' looks decidedly ordinary to me... :shh
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Judging from his "highlights" package, Hobbs' looks decidedly ordinary to me... :shh
Cool - 1 minute of highlights and you're ready to head up recruiting now.
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Judging from his "highlights" package, Hobbs' looks decidedly ordinary to me... :shh
Cool - 1 minute of highlights and you're ready to head up recruiting now.
:snidegrin - basically sums up the internet these days...
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Jacob van Rooyen looks good
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SNIP :banghead
Debate and stick to the topic without the abuse or name calling
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https://www.sen.com.au/news/2021/09/29/sheehans-two-smokeys-in-this-years-national-draft/
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https://www.sen.com.au/news/2021/09/29/sheehans-two-smokeys-in-this-years-national-draft/
Brown definitely sounds like the sort of player we'd reach for with an earlier pick....but how is Erasmus a "smokey" when pretty much everyone has him in their top 10? ::)
If we're talking actual smokies or at least potential hidden gems....I like the sound of Hugh Stagg -"powerful" mid/fwd who captained Glenelg's under 18 side this year and won the SANFL u/18 medal in a canter... :shh
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https://www.sen.com.au/news/2021/09/29/sheehans-two-smokeys-in-this-years-national-draft/
Brown definitely sounds like the sort of player we'd reach for with an earlier pick....but how is Erasmus a "smokey" when pretty much everyone has him in their top 10? ::)
If we're talking actual smokies or at least potential hidden gems....I like the sound of Hugh Stagg -"powerful" mid/fwd who captained Glenelg's under 18 side this year and won the SANFL u/18 medal in a canter... :shh
Hugh looks pretty good, hopefully he is on our radar
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Asked whether the Tigers have any specific positions they’re looking to address in the draft, Livingstone said the club would look at the best player available, but flagged the possibility of losing some picks to trade either up this year, or into 2022.
“It’s generally the best player that’s available and as I said, we’ve got a strong hand in that regard,” he said.
“We can maximise our position this year and if nothing happens and we end up with those picks as we are, I think we’re in a good position, with the ability to strengthen us now and into the next year or two.
https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/department-of-trade/afl-trade-news-rumours-whispers-live-updates-2021-jordan-dawson-deal-jordon-sweet-bulldogs/news-story/0e05f6c806d1aa87f19c018cee51035f
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I will be taking picks 7, 15 , 26 and 28 to the draft this year unless we can't trade up.
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Cal Twomey's Phantom Form Guide: Best draft prospects ranked (September 30)
nb. Remember this is not a mock draft – it is our rankings of the best players and does not take into account where father-son or Academy bids could come.
1. Nick Daicos (Coll F/S) ........ Midfielder 183cm/72kg 3/1/03 Oakleigh Chargers/Vic Metro
2. Jason Horne-Francis .......... Midfielder 183cm/77kg 21/6/03 South Adelaide/South Australia
3. Sam Darcy (Dogs F/S) ....... Forward/defender 204cm/75kg 19/7/03 Oakleigh Chargers/Vic Metro
4. Finn Callaghan .................. Midfielder 189cm/82kg 26/4/03 Sandringham Dragons/Vic Metro
5. Ben Hobbs ....................... Midfielder 183cm/80kg 16/9/03 Greater Western Victoria Rebels/Vic Country
6. Josh Ward ........................ Midfielder 181cm/79kg 15/8/03 Northern Knights/Vic Metro
7. Josh Gibcus ...................... Key defender 195cm/84kg 4/4/03 Greater Western Victoria Rebels/Vic Country
8. Mac Andrew ..................... Ruckman 200cm/70kg 12/4/03 Dandenong Stingrays/Vic Country (+1)
9. Josh Rachele .................... Forward/midfielder 180cm/78kg 11/4/03 Murray Bushrangers/Vic Country (-1)
10. Neil Eramus .................... Midfielder/forward 188cm/80kg 2/12/03 Subiaco/Western Australia
11. Jye Amiss ....................... Key forward 195cm/83kg 31/7/03 East Perth/Western Australia
12. Arlo Draper ..................... Midfielder/forward 185cm/71kg 20/1/03 South Adelaide/South Australia
13. Matthew Johnson ......,...... Midfielder 192cm/80kg 16/3/03 Subiaco/Western Australia (+8)
14. Nasiah Wanganeen-Milera .. Midfielder 187cm/69kg 22/2/03 Glenelg/South Australia (+4)
15. Josh Sinn ......................... Half-back/midfielder 186cm/73kg 7/1/03 Sandringham Dragons/Vic Metro (-1)
16. Tyler Sonsie .................... Midfielder 181cm/77kg 27/1/03 Eastern Ranges/Vic Metro (-3)
17. Matthew Roberts ............. Midfielder/forward 183cm/81kg 31/7/03 South Adelaide/South Australia (-1)
18. Josh Goater .................... Midfielder 190cm/79kg 2/6/03 Calder Cannons/Vic Metro (-1)
19. Sam Butler .................... Midfielder/forward 184cm/73kg 10/2/03 Greater Western Victoria Rebels/Vic Country
20. Campbell Chesser ............ Midfielder/defender 186cm/83kg 27/4/03 Sandringham Dragons/Vic Country (-5)
21. Jacob Van Rooyen ........... Forward/defender 194cm/88kg 16/4/03 Claremont/Western Australia (+6)
22. Darcy Wilmot ................. Defender 183cm/75kg 31/12/03 Northern Knights/Vic Metro (-2)
23. Tom Brown .................... Defender 186cm/71kg 30/7/03 Murray Bushrangers/Vic Country (-1)
24. Jesse Motlop ................... Forward 176cm/74kg 23/11/03 South Fremantle/Western Australia (-1)
25. Marcus Windhager ........... Midfielder 183cm/82kg 16/5/03 Sandringham Dragons/Vic Metro (+1)
26. Toby Conway .................. Ruckman 204cm/90kg 24/4/03 Geelong Falcons/Vic Country (-1)
27. Jack Williams .................. Key forward 195cm/91kg 1/12/03 East Fremantle/Western Australia (-3)
28. Zac Taylor ...................... Midfielder 180cm/74kg 31/1/03 Calder Cannons/Vic Metro (+2)
29. Blake Howes .................. Forward/midfielder 190cm/79kg 7/4/03 Sandringham Dragons/Vic Metro (-1)
30. Rhett Bazzo ................. Key defender/forward 195cm/81kg 17/10/03 Swan Districts/Western Australia (new)
Dropped out of Top 30:
Hugh Jackson ................. Midfielder 181cm/70kg 3/5/03 North Adelaide/South Australia (-2)
Full summary of each potential draftee here: https://www.afl.com.au/news/682571/cal-twomeys-phantom-form-guide-top-draft-prospects-september-ranking
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Consensus top 30: AFL Draft’s best prospects ranked
We’ve profiled all the standout junior footballers in the country but who are the best? Our AFL Draft gurus rank the top prospects 1-30.
https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/draft/afl-draft-2021-consensus-rankings-of-the-top-30-prospects/news-story/c7ed994b8dbd7a63da74f021bacc7d8d
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How to get picks 3 and 4? Impossible but imagine leaving the draft with Finn Callaghan and Josh Ward as your two top picks. I know we tried to get Adelaides No4 already. Wr should keep trying. Gold Coast will also deal their pick firca deal.
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How to get picks 3 and 4? Impossible but imagine leaving the draft with Finn Callaghan and Josh Ward as your two top picks. I know we tried to get Adelaides No4 already. Wr should keep trying. Gold Coast will also deal their pick firca deal.
We should have lost a few more games :shh
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When we talk about 185 cm 72 kg players I get worried, anyone think this is not an issue?
Aaron Fiona style players, too light /injury prone, we used to have a history of picking up skinny left footers….
Personally I prefer Jack Graham types
Comments …?
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Sonsie would be a great selection as a late first round pick.
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When we talk about 185 cm 72 kg players I get worried, anyone think this is not an issue?
Aaron Fiona style players, too light /injury prone, we used to have a history of picking up skinny left footers….
Personally I prefer Jack Graham types
Comments …?
Agree. I’d personally rather players that aren’t soft and don’t take a backward step. I can’t stand panic merchants.
I remember when shifter Sheehan said that Fiora was the one player from that draft he thought could win a Brownlow medal. :lol :rollin
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We've had more than our fair share of small, bruise-free outside mids/wings/HBFs.
At 185 I'd want to know that he's going to hit 85-90+ KG
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Consensus top 30: AFL Draft’s best prospects ranked
We’ve profiled all the standout junior footballers in the country but who are the best? Our AFL Draft gurus rank the top prospects 1-30.
https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/draft/afl-draft-2021-consensus-rankings-of-the-top-30-prospects/news-story/c7ed994b8dbd7a63da74f021bacc7d8d
Here's the full article:
This season has been another disjointed year for draft prospects due to Covid interruptions — particularly those in Victoria — making evaluating this crop a difficult task for club recruiters.
But unlike last year, a national carnival has taken place with South Australia and Western Australia locking horns in two games in the past month, with more to come involving the Allies — taking in Queensland, Northern Territory and Tasmania.
Victorian prospects, who were unable to take the field at all last year, have had increased exposure in 2021.
Some have had the opportunity to feature in the NAB League, Victorian trial match and an U19 Challenge contest, with country kids getting more chances to stake their draft claims than those in metropolitan areas.
So, who are the best 30 draft prospects in the country?
Talent watchers Dan Batten and Jordan Pinto have put their heads together to rank the best talents that your club could snare.
Find out their consensus top 30 and where they differed.
NOTE: This process is a ranking of the best talent available and does not factor in club draft picks and father-son or Academy bids — like top prospects Nick Daicos and Sam Darcy, tied to Collingwood and the Western Bulldogs respectively.
Consensus Player Jordan Pinto Dan Batten
1 Jason Horne-Francis 1 1
2 Nick Daicos 2 2
3 Sam Darcy 4 3
4 Finn Callaghan 3 4
5 Josh Gibcus 5 6
6 Ben Hobbs 11 5
7 Josh Ward 6 10
8 Mac Andrew 7 8
9 Jye Amiss 15 9
10 Josh Sinn 8 11
11 Nasiah Wanganeen-Milera 10 13
12 Matthew Roberts 9 14
13 Josh Rachele 14 7
14 Tyler Sonsie 13 15
15 Arlo Draper 16 16
16 Neil Erasmus 17 12
17 Josh Goater 12 18
18 Matthew Johnson 19 17
19 Campbell Chesser 18 20
20 Jacob van Rooyen 22 19
21 Sam Butler 20 24
22 Darcy Wilmot 25 22
23 Jack Williams 23 23
24 Jesse Motlop 24 21
25 Zac Taylor 26 27
26 Blake Howes 21 29
27 Toby Conway 30 25
28 Jase Burgoyne 29 26
29 Mitch Knevitt 28 28
30 Tom Brown 27
CONSENSUS TOP 30 DRAFT RANKINGS
1. Jason Horne-Francis (South Adelaide/SA)
Midfielder/forward, 184cm, 77kg
The South Adelaide midfielder has it all. He’s strong and tough on the inside, but also electrifying away from the contest and around goal, boasting a mix of speed, evasiveness and terrific hands overhead. Horne-Francis hasn’t just played senior football in the SANFL over the past two seasons, the fierce competitor has had a big impact, underlined by his remarkable 24-disposal, 11-clearance, 3-goal performance in the preliminary final.
Dan says: Daicos had been No. 1 all year in my rankings, until that stunning SANFL preliminary final display. His standout performances against hardened bodies makes him a deserving first choice.
Jordan says: When you’ve watched what he’s done up close at senior level for the past two years, it’s hard to look anywhere else. His skill is matched by his toughness and competitiveness, making him the complete prospect.
2. Nick Daicos (Oakleigh Chargers/Vic Metro)
Midfielder/forward, 183cm, 72kg
The prolific midfield/forward has been streets ahead of the rest every time he has stepped out on the park this season – his 41 disposals and two goals against Vic Country in an U19 Challenge match illustrating his dominance. Daicos oozes class, hits the scoreboard and has an elite footy IQ. Expect the Magpies father-son to slot straight into Craig McRae’s line-up in 2022.
Dan says: Sleepless nights deciding on Daicos v Horne-Francis. Arguably would be number one in my eyes if his season hadn’t been cut short by Covid.
Jordan says: His footy brain is the best in the draft pool and one of the best we’ve seen for a while. And he has the skill to match. Different strengths to Horne-Francis, but you’d be happy with either.
3. Sam Darcy (Oakleigh Chargers/Vic Metro)
Key-forward/defender, 204cm, 75kg
The son of former Western Bulldogs captain Luke, Darcy is raw but the best key-position prospect in this year’s draft. The 204cm teenager boasts elite aerial ability and athleticism and has proven his versatility, impressing on every line throughout an impressive junior career. Darcy had 11 intercept possessions - five of them marks - for Oakleigh in Round 4 of the NAB League before booting six goals in a Vic Metro trial match in June.
Dan says: The standout tall of the draft class. Averaged the most intercept marks per game in the NAB League, showing his capacity to be used a key defender as well as up forward.
Jordan says: As much as I love what Darcy can do in the air, and the thought of what he could become, I have the next best midfielder in the pool slightly ahead.
4. Finn Callaghan (Sandringham Dragons/Vic Metro)
Midfielder, 189cm, 82kg
A smooth-moving 189cm midfielder with speed and a raking left boot, Callaghan also proved he can be a weapon on the inside after spending more time in the coalface this season. A damaging offensive player who comes from an athletics background, with his father, Brett, a former Commonwealth Games 400m sprinter.
Dan says: Lots of game-breaking traits which gives him a point of difference from other midfielders in this crop. Have Darcy just ahead.
Jordan says: After proving he can win his own ball on the inside this year, Callaghan has all the traits of the perfect modern-day midfielder - that’s why I’ve got him just ahead of Darcy.
5. Josh Gibcus (GWV Rebels/Vic Country)
Key defender, 195cm, 84kg
Gibcus is an intercept marking defender who attacks the ball in the air with his incredible vertical leap and great hands. The 195cm Rebel rated elite for intercept marks (3.2 per game) and intercept possessions (7.9) in the NAB League, and has the capacity to be swung forward.
Dan says: Think Jake Lever. Looks to be the best key defender available, and his versatility is a plus.
Jordan says: At times impenetrable in defence, given his size, leap and hands above his head. Shown a great ability to get his long arms free when the ball is on the ground, too.
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Josh Gibcus is one of the leading talls in the draft. Picture: Michael Klein
6. Ben Hobbs (GWV Rebels/Vic Country)
Midfielder, 183cm, 80kg
The hard-running midfielder, who was an All-Australian at under-16 level, is an elite ball-winner who thrives at the contest. Hobbs’ year was interrupted by injury but he bounced back late in the NAB League season, winning 32 disposals or more in three of his final four games. He’s tough, consistent and hits the scoreboard.
Dan says: Looking for an inside midfielder? Hobbs is your man, and he has shown he is more than capable around goal.
Jordan says: Hobbs does a lot of things very well, and looks a safe selection. But I think there are a few others who offer a bit more.
7. Josh Ward (Northern Knights/Vic Metro)
Midfielder, 181cm, 74kg
Ward has been dominant at times this season, tallying 34 disposals in a best-on-ground performance against Daicos in Round 9, before starring with 29 disposals, eight clearances and two goals for Vic Metro in the challenge match in June. The left-footer is a prolific ball-winner, who is clean and clever at the contest, and damaging away from it, drawing comparison to Bombers star Zach Merrett.
Dan says: Mr Consistent. Should be a reliable contributor from the moment he earns an AFL debut.
Jordan says: Given the way he creates with is clean hands, and neat left foot, I’ve got Ward ahead of fellow Victorian gun Hobbs.
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Josh Ward has excelled in his top-age year. Picture: Michael Klein
8. Mac Andrew (Dandenong Stingrays/Vic Country)
Ruckman, 200cm, 70kg
Andrew has shot up draft boards this year after an exciting season where he showed off his outstanding athleticism and spring for a prospect standing 200cm. The Demons Next Generation Academy product set tongues wagging in an eye-catching U19 Challenge performance for Vic Country, with his intercept marking a feature. New NGA rules barring clubs to match bids inside the top 20 mean Melbourne is set to miss out on Andrew.
Dan says: May take time but is a prospect with as much upside as any. His follow-up work at stoppages is another promising attribute.
Jordan says: I wouldn’t be surprised if a club takes a chance on Andrew before this mark, given his sky-high potential and eye-catching traits.
9. Jye Amiss (East Perth/WA)
Key forward, 195cm, 83kg
After booting 51.14 in 14 WAFL Colts games - 16 more than any other player - and a brilliant performance against SA in the Under-19 carnival opener, the athletic tall looks the second best key-forward prospect behind Darcy. Amiss is brilliant on the lead, strong overhead and boasts uncanny goal sense for a big man.
Dan says: What he has achieved this year while commuting from Busselton to East Perth – that’s 2.5 hours one-way – for training and matches is phenomenal. Injury in the grand final showcase won’t impact his standing.
Jordan says: I have him slightly outside the top-10 but I’m still convinced after he backed up his dominant WAFL Colts season at national level.
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Jye Amiss has been deadly accurate in front of goal this season. Picture: Dylan Burns/AFL Photos/Getty Images
10. Josh Sinn (Sandringham Dragons/Vic Metro)
Defender/midfielder, 186cm, 73kg
Sinn has been hampered by a string of injuries this season but there is no doubting his talent as a game-breaking defender/midfielder with his run and kicking. While his finishing was off at times in the NAB League, Sinn was one of Vic Metro’s best in their Challenge contest.
Dan says: Rated as a potential No. 1 pick at U16 level, Sinn has had no luck in his top-age year. A club could get a serious bargain if he slides.
Jordan says: We haven’t seen much of him but Sinn’s ability to break the game open with his speed and foot skills is undeniable. Does he have more upside than Hobbs and Ward? Maybe.
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11. Nasiah Wanganeen-Milera (Glenelg/SA)
Wingman, 188cm, 70kg
The athletically gifted teenager looms as this year’s top 10 bolter after impressing at senior level for Glenelg and showing off his brilliance for South Australia. Wanganeen-Milera - the nephew of Port Adelaide and Essendon great Gavin - glides across the ground and is incredibly balanced, delivering with precision on both sides of his body, often after dancing around an opponent.
Dan says: A kick you can set your watch to. His elite footskills and ability to dodge would-be tacklers make him a rare commodity.
Jordan says: Wanganeen-Milera weaving in and out of traffic before finding a teammate on the chest is a sight to behold. And he proved he can win his own ball at the contest, showing off his clean hands, at SANFL level.
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Glenelg draft prospect Nasiah Wanganeen-Milera. Picture: Cory Sutton
12. Matty Roberts (South Adelaide/SA)
Midfielder/forward, 183cm, 81kg
The ball-magnet is tough, competitive, makes good decisions and an elite footy IQ means he’s always in the right spot. Roberts broke into South Adelaide’s senior side this year after finishing with ranking-point tallies of 175, 188 and 240 in three under-18 matches. He then further highlighted his strength as a forward at senior level, but it’s ability to continually deliver and influence the game through the midfield which has him so highly rated.
Dan says: Proved he can be a dangerous forward at SANFL senior level, kicking six goals in seven matches. Another bankable midfield option who is ready-made.
Jordan says: Some may have a more impressive highlights reel, but you could just about bank on Roberts playing 200 AFL games right now.
13. Josh Rachele (Murray Bushrangers/Vic Country)
Forward/midfielder, 180cm, 78kg
An explosive and dangerous forward/midfielder, Rachele produces magic in the forward 50 with his ability to kick goals from all angles. Likened to Giants dynamo Toby Greene, Rachele performed strongly in the Victorian trial and Challenge matches for Vic Country and kicked six goals in his final NAB League game of the season.
Dan says: Rachele’s highlights reel is going to be something to behold. His midfield traits – which he showcased in taking out the Kevin Sheehan Medal as MVP at the U16 carnival – can’t be forgotten, either. Rate him as a top-ten choice.
Jordan says: Brilliant as a midfielder at the under-16 champs but can he play there at AFL level? Maybe he doesn’t need to, given his goalkicking traits.
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Josh Rachele has been compared to Giants star Toby Greene. Picture: Michael Klein
14. Tyler Sonsie (Eastern Ranges/Vic Metro)
Midfielder, 181cm, 77kg
A dynamic and creative midfield prospect who hits the scoreboard, showing these traits in an exciting VFL debut for Box Hill, finishing with 26 disposals, six clearances and two goals. Suffered an ill-timed ankle injury in July which meant he was unable to get back on the park.
Dan says: A similar story to Sinn as a highly touted prospect going into this season. Others look to have gone ahead of him due to being sidelined.
Jordan says: Like a few others, Sonsie hasn’t been able to enhance his standing in the draft pool this year. But what he’s done at multiple levels throughout his junior career has been very, very good.
15. Arlo Draper (South Adelaide/South Australia)
Midfielder/forward, 186cm, 71kg
The versatile 186cm onballer weaves through traffic with ease and can go forward and hit the scoreboard, booting 10 goals and averaging 24 disposals in eight under-18 matches this year. Draper, who has plenty of time with ball in hand, made his senior debut for South Adelaide in August and underlined the reasons why he’s in the top-20 mix against WA, where his clean hands, ability to execute under pressure in the midfield and power as a marking target inside-50 were on show.
Dan says: Was a big fan of his U18 finals series last year and he boosted his stocks further in 2021. Joining Horne-Francis and Roberts in the SANFL side for a couple of matches was encouraging.
Jordan says: Another South Adelaide junior who has plenty of traits to like - mainly his size, class and versatility. Only question is, where will he best be suited at the top level?
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Arlo Draper finished the grand final curtain raiser in a sling Picture: Dylan Burns/AFL Photos/Getty Images
16. Neil Erasmus (Subiaco/Western Australia)
Midfielder/forward, 192cm, 80kg
Playing as a forward in his bottom-age year, Erasmus put himself on the AFL radar with a standout four-goal performance in Subiaco’s WAFL Colts premiership win. And he’s shot further up draft boards after moving into the midfield in 2021, averaging 28 disposals, 16 contested possessions, eight marks, six clearances and 168 ranking points in four games.
Erasmus has added genuine ball-winning ability – at the contest and away from it - to his list of elite traits, which include vertical leap, strong overhead marking and work ethic.
Dan says: Has plenty of scope for growth after transitioning from a half-forward at the end of last season to a tall midfielder. Fun fact: I was watching Erasmus highlights when the Melbourne earthquake hit. Was this the seismic impact of his breakout year?
Jordan says: His improvement has been rapid and he’s a great size with some explosive traits. But his kicking concerns me slightly.
17. Josh Goater (Calder Cannons/Vic Metro)
Midfielder/defender 190cm, 79kg
Goater is a high-impact player, possessing explosive speed and agility that he has showcased off halfback and through the midfield to great effect. A good size at 190cm, he impressed as an inside midfielder for Vic Metro and shone as a running defender later in the year for the Cannons, also breaking in for a game with Essendon’s VFL side.
Dan says: Blessed with athletic gifts and stacks of X-Factor. One who could rise with impressive results at the National Combine.
Jordan says: Given his potential as a 190cm midfielder, with game-breaking speed and a damaging right-foot, I have Goater on the fringes of the top 10.
18. Matthew Johnson (Subiaco/Western Australia)
Midfielder, 190cm, 78kg
The tall, balanced midfielder capped off an impressive bottom-age season with a standout WAFL Colts Grand Final. And Johnson’s rise continued in 2021, with the skilful right-footer making his senior debut in May, a week after a solid showing in the AFL Academy side’s loss to Geelong’s reserves. Johnson, who was WA’s best in the second U19 Challenge game in September, is tough, clean, clever in traffic, good in the air and looks to have plenty of upside
Dan says: Very impressed with his finish to the season, including two stellar U19s Championships matches. A classy addition to any on-ball brigade.
Jordan says: Could prove a very good get in the teens come draft night given his size, class, scope for improvement and skill.
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Matthew Johnson with his medal after being named as WA’s best player Picture: Dylan Burns/AFL Photos via Getty Images
19. Campbell Chesser (Sandringham Dragons/Vic Metro)
Midfielder/defender, 186cm, 83kg
Had a similar year to Sinn, with the fellow Dragons prospect and AFL Academy member sidelined and playing through injury at different stages in 2021. Chesser is a pacy halfback and on-ball option with highly regarded leadership qualities and a long kick.
Dan says: Others may have edged ahead of him through no fault of his own, but his off-field qualities – having boarded at Melbourne Grammar from Wangaratta – mean he will enter the AFL system better adjusted than most.
Jordan says: The explosive Chesser bounces around and makes things happen when he’s got the ball. A few clubs may have seen enough to take him higher than this.
20. Jacob van Rooyen (Claremont/WA)
Key forward/defender, 193cm, 87kg
After booting 19 goals in 10 WAFL Colts games in his bottom-age year, the athletic van Rooyen made five senior appearances for Claremont in 2021 and is terrific in the air, whether it be on the lead or one-out, given his outstanding bodywork. The AFL Academy member booted 13 goals in three games on his return to Colts level before showcasing his versatility, taking five intercept marks in the first two state games against SA.
Dan says: Has risen up draft boards after an exceptional six-week period, lifting in important WAFL Colts finals as a goalkicker and his two U19 Championships matches down back.
Jordan says: Has been dominant in the air at either of the ground and moves very well for a player of his size.
21. Sam Butler (GWV Rebels/Vic Country)
Midfielder/forward, 184cm, 73kg
Butler, the brother of St Kilda pocket rocket Dan, is a creative forward/midfielder who provides manic defensive pressure. The Rebels product wins his own ball on the inside cleanly and burst out of congestion at pace, with his forward crumbing also a strength.
Dan says: More advanced than his brother and strengthened his claims despite a chest injury which sidelined him for the U19 Challenge clash.
Jordan says: So clean at the contest, and can explode away from it. Could be more than just a forward.
22. Darcy Wilmot (Northern Knights/Vic Metro)
Defender, 183cm, 75kg
A quick and agile halfback who loves to use his run and carry from defence, Wilmot is also a fierce one-on-one competitor defensively. The 183cm prospect was among Vic Metro’s best in the Victorian Challenge match.
Dan says: Lots of upside considering he only turns 18 on New Year’s Eve. Balances his exciting attacking traits with sturdy defence.
Jordan says: The youngest player in this year’s draft can take the game away from the opposition - with or without the ball - in the back-half.
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Darcy Wilmot dashes out of defence. Picture: Michael Klein
23. Jack Williams (East Fremantle/WA)
Key-forward, 195cm, 91kg
The strong-marking forward exploded in 2021, booting 40 goals in 15 WAFL Colts matches and was No. 1 ranked player for score involvements. The 195cm first-round prospect, who is terrific one-on-one and rarely beating in the air, can also play in defence as he showed in the early stages of his bottom-age season when he took eight intercept marks in the first four matches. Williams took nine marks against South Australia in August and was one of only two goalkickers in the AFL Academy game against Geelong’s VFL team in April.
Dan says: Showcased his consistency in scoring above 100 ranking points in all but one game at WAFL Colts level – no mean feat for a key forward.
Jordan says: Has pushed his name up near fellow WA tall Van Rooyen on draft board’s after a standout season.
24. Jesse Motlop (South Fremantle/WA)
Forward/midfielder, 176cm, 74kg
The skilful speedster is the son of former Port Adelaide and North Melbourne forward Daniel, and he has the brilliant goal sense of his father. After booting six goals, and impressing through the midfield, in four WAFL Colts games to start the year, and starring for Aquinas College, Motlop made his League debut for South Fremantle in July. At senior level, Motlop showed off his sublime ability through traffic and clean hands.
Dan says: May be the leading pure small forward in the pool after proving to be a consistent goalkicker at WAFL senior level for South Fremantle.
Jordan says: Has made kids his own age - and men - look silly this season. Unlikely to be on the board for as long as the Dockers are hoping.
25. Zac Taylor (Calder Cannons/Vic Metro)
Midfielder, 180cm, 74kg
Calder’s midfield gun is a defensively-minded ball-winner who is agile on his feet, composed under pressure, and has brilliant hands at stoppages. But what separates Taylor from a number of similar players is he rarely wastes the ball by foot. He averaged 34 disposals, 14 contested possessions, eight tackles and 168 ranking points in his final three NAB League games and impressed in the Challenge match against Vic Country in July.
Dan says: A deserving member in the top 30 after a blistering finish to the season, where his elite footskills, ball-winning and composure stood out.
Jordan says: Taylor makes great decisions with the ball in hand - and he’s so often got it.
26. Blake Howes (Sandringham Dragons/Vic Metro)
Forward/midfielder, 190cm, 79kg
Howes is a versatile and athletic prospect who was hitting his straps before the NAB League shutdown, kicking two goals and winning 20 disposals in his final game for the season against the Rebels. The 190cm product has a turn of speed, a great leap and a long kick, allowing him to be used in a variety of roles.
Dan says: Would have been higher on my rankings if he continued on his trajectory. Possesses a number of attractive traits.
Jordan says: A lack of exposure has hurt but his best is eye-catching and he could prove one of the steals of the draft. I’ve got him higher.
27. Toby Conway (Geelong Falcons/Vic Country)
Ruckman, 204cm, 90kg
The 204cm ruckman is mobile, strong overhead and has good skills for a prospect his size. Conway held the number one ruck role for the AFL Academy against Geelong’s VFL side earlier in the year and performed strongly for Vic Country in the U19 Challenge match.
Dan says: The leading pure ruckman. Will take time to mature.
Jordan says: There’s no Luke Jackson-like athleticism but Conway is best ruckman in this year’s crop.
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Toby Conway competes against Sam Darcy. Picture: Michael Klein
28. Jase Burgoyne (Eagles/SA)
Midfielder/defender, 185cm, 70kg
In his bottom-age season, the son of former Port Adelaide star Peter, Jase won the Eagles’ under-18 best-and-fairest in a premiership year, averaging 33 disposals and 133 ranking points. The highly-skilled father-son prospect hasn’t been as dominant in 2021 after splitting his time between different levels at different clubs. Burgoyne is smart and has done his best work across half-back and on a wing but has plenty of upside as an allround midfielder.
Dan says: Has a strong body of work and featured for Port Adelaide’s SANFL side on three occasions. A smooth mover with a precise right foot kick.
Jordan says: He’s still raw but is as talented and skilful as any South Australian in this year’s pool.
29. Mitch Knevitt (Geelong Falcons/Vic Country)
Midfielder, 193cm, 81kg
A hulking inside midfielder, Knevitt wins contested ball in congestion and can haul in marks with his strong hands overhead. The Falcons prospect dominated in his final three NAB League games, averaging 30.3 disposals, 14.7 contested possessions and 6.3 marks.
Dan says: Ranking points hauls of 151, 136 and 165 to close out the season. A great size and showed he can be a marking presence up forward.
Jordan says: If he can put it together as a tall midfielder, he could prove very hard to stop around the ground.
30. Tom Brown (Murray Bushrangers/Vic Country)
Defender, 186cm, 71kg
Sidelined for two months during the season, Brown impressed with his intercepting, speed and poise across halfback in five games for the Bushrangers in the NAB League. Brown is the son of former Cat, Paul, but does not qualify for father-son status — unlike his sister, Geelong AFLW gun Millie.
Dan says: Was just outside my top 30, having other defenders marginally ahead.
Jordan says: Dashing playmaker has plenty of suitors - and rightly so.
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Keen on Amiss and Chesser at 9 & 19.
With 28 & 30 or whatever they slip to, I'd be hoping for inside mids and maybe 1 medium forward.
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Our current picks: 7, 15, 26, 28, 38, 41, 46, 82, 100, ...
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We now have 5370 draft points.
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https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/2021-provisional-draft-order-up-to-date-following-the-grand-final.1251001/post-72430512
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From Foxsports ...
EARLY WHISPERS AROUND TOP SIX PICKS
There’s still eight weeks until the national draft, but the make-up of the top selections and the players that appeal to certain clubs is already taking shape.
Recruiters believe there’s a genuine top two this year: Collingwood father-son prospect Nick Daicos and South Adelaide’s Jason Horne-Francis.
The definition of a ball magnet, Daicos has sat at the top of many draft boards and rankings for most of 2021 after leading the NAB League for disposals (35.8 ) and uncontested possessions (23.0), while also averaging two goals per match.
Magpies football boss Graham Wright this week confirmed his club had told the Daicos family it would match a bid on the young midfielder – “wherever it is”. Whether that’s at Pick 1 or 2 remains uncertain.
Daicos has played less games this year than Horne-Francis, who’s done his chances of being taken with Pick 1 no harm in recent weeks. Widely regarded as the best player in the ‘open draft’, Horne-Francis produced a stunning SANFL league preliminary final performance last week, kicking 3.3 from 24 disposals, 18 contested possessions, 11 clearances, 10 score involvements and 160 Champion Data ranking points.
North Melbourne, which holds Pick 1, could bid on Daicos with the first selection of the draft to force the Pies to truly earn their prized prospect before picking Horne-Francis at Pick 2. If the Roos opt for Horne-Francis first up, the Giants, who hold the next pick, would then almost certainly place a bid on Daicos.
And it mightn’t be the only father-son gun the Giants bid on, with exciting 204cm key-position prospect Sam Darcy a strong chance to be taken in the top three.
The Dogs will bank points to ensure they can any match bid on Darcy, who possesses superb versatility and athleticism that allows him to play in any third of the ground. They could be asked to use those points on Darcy as early as Pick 3.
The Giants would then consider an array of top-end prospects – and they could pull the trigger on this year’s biggest bolter.
The Herald Sun this week strongly linked the Giants to athletic Dandenong Stingrays and Melbourne Next Generation Academy prospect Mac Andrew, whose ability to play across all thirds of the ground at 200cm excites AFL clubs.
The AFL has changed the in-draft NGA bidding rules for 2021, with clubs that have existing links to multicultural and Indigenous Academy players unable to match bids inside the top 20 selections, meaning the Dees will almost certainly miss out on him.
It wouldn’t be a major surprise if the Giants selected Andrew, but it’s also feasible he could slide to later in the top 10 as he’s viewed as a super talented yet long-term prospect.
The Gold Coast Suns have the next pick and would also strongly consider Andrew if he was still available. But it’s also understood they’re keeping a close eye on 189cm Sandringham Dragons midfielder Finn Callaghan, who possesses great poise and kicking skills. One recruiter told foxfooty.com.au there’s “a bit of Bontempelli” about the way Callaghan moves in and out of stoppages.
The Suns have also been linked to key defender Josh Gibcus – the draft class’ best interceptor at 195cm and a player recruiters can see becoming a genuine second backman at an AFL club. Gibcus would fill a defensive chasm at Gold Coast – a situation that has been hindered by Rory Thompson’s luckless run with injury, which has forced Sam Collins to shoulder big responsibility and Charlie Ballard to often play above his height.
In an ideal world for Adelaide, SA gun Horne-Francis would still be available come its selection. But that’s not happening. And even Crows list boss Justin Reid this week hosed down speculation about a play to move up the draft order, telling AFL Trade Radio: “I wouldn’t have thought North Melbourne are moving too much on their Pick 1.”
From a pure needs perspective, the Crows would love some class around the midfield. Callaghan would be an appropriate selection, but whether he’d still be available by Adelaide’s pick is doubtful. GWV Rebel Ben Hobbs and Northern Knight Josh Ward are big ball-winners, but the Crows are already well stocked with inside midfielders.
It’s understood Adelaide is keeping tabs on Murray Bushrangers’ Josh Rachele – an electric, uber-talented forward-midfielder at 180cm blessed with goalkicking nous and x-factor. Clubs have been impressed with how Rachele has interviewed, too.
Still, a lot can – and will – change between the start of the trade period and national draft night.
TRADE ISSUE FACING CLUBS
When the trade period commences on Monday, a conundrum will be nagging list managers and recruiters.
The introduction of the future trading has given clubs another layer of flexibility come negotiation time. Trades that previously would’ve been tough to strike can now be finalised by using, or adding in, a future draft selection to sweeten a deal.
But evaluating the worth of 2022 draft picks is difficult – and it’s split club recruiters.
Some believe selection in next year’s draft won’t be as valuable, considering a significant portion of the 2022 crop – primarily from Victoria – have already endured two Covid-interrupted seasons, which included missing out on an Under 16s national carnival in 2020. There’s some hope prospects can have a relatively ‘Covid-normal’ season in 2022, but that, too, is laced with uncertainty.
Several recruiters also have great confidence in this year’s draft crop, despite the limited exposure. Ideally Victorian prospects would’ve had more matches or another year of development, but clubs have seen them play between 10 and 15 games — and that’s enough.
It means you could see clubs that rate and trust the 2021 crop highly could trade out of next year’s draft.
Some recruiters, though, believe it’s worth keeping powder dry and targeting the 2022 crop, especially if a club holds picks outside the top 10 in this year’s draft as there’s a belief you could throw a blanket over the talent ranked 11 to 50.
This year’s crop has a ‘hybrid’ flavour to it, with the top of the pool to almost certainly feature more on-ballers, small forwards and rebound defenders. Next year’s draft, though, looms as a more diverse one, with a lot more key-position players set to be available.
And in 12 months, the 2022 draft crop overall could’ve played more games than their 2021 counterparts, should Covid-enforced restrictions ease in the wake of a high vaccination rate.
Over the next few weeks, some clubs won’t be thinking ahead to next year’s draft too much and will trade future picks simply to break impasses and get certain deals done.
But between the end of the trade period and the draft nights where clubs can freely trade both 2021 and 2022 picks, there’ll be ample internal debates.
YOUNG GUNS PUSH THEIR CASE ON BIG STAGE
While Victorian-based prospects haven’t been able to push their case on the field in recent times, South Australian and Western Australian young guns have.
The two states featured in a curtain-raiser match at Optus Stadium ahead of last weekend’s AFL Grand Final, with two players catching the eye.
SA’s Nasiah Wanganeen-Milera – the nephew of Brownlow Medallist Gavin Wanganeen and the son of Terry Milera that played 30 games for the Saints – continued to show why he’s bolted into mid first-round contention, using the ball superbly to finish with 15 disposals.
Subiaco tall midfielder Matt Johnson was named WA’s best player, showing great class with 21 disposals and five clearances. He set up the match-winning goal to Jacob Van Rooyen, who was swung forward after impressing with his intercept marking in defence earlier in the game.
Two NGA prospects also stood out. Blayne O’Loughlin (Crows NGA) won South Australia’s best-afield medal for his 22 disposals across half-back, while Arthur Jones (Eagles NGA) kicked two goals from 16 touches to earn himself a late invite to the upcoming WA draft combine screening.
The match, though, was somewhat marred by injuries to first-round contenders Jye Amiss (WA) and Arlo Draper (SA).
Amiss, a key forward that booted 51.15 from his 13 home and away WAFL colts matches, suffered a knee injury early in the game, with scans confirming a PCL tear. Midfielder Draper also underwent surgery this week to repair his right AC joint.
Prospects from South Australia will have another chance to impress recruiters in a competitive match situation over the next two weeks after two more Under 19 challenge matches were announced.
SA will host an Allies team on Sunday at Thebarton Oval before taking on WA again on October 10. But due to recent Covid-19 spikes and consequent border restrictions, the Allies team on Sunday won’t feature any prospects coming from Queensland, with 17-year-old SA players likely to help fill the chasms.
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Van Rooyen (#32 Claremont) kicked 4 goals in the WAFL Colts grand final. 3 of them in the first quarter before Bazzo (#1 Swan Districts) went onto him. Bazzo interviewed post-game at 1:58:45 mark. The West Australian praised both kids' games.
Watch: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e6qXuUhUQGs
Stats: https://www.wafl.com.au/match/colts-claremont-v-swan-districts-grand-final-2021
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Matt Rendell rates Mac Andrew in the top 5.
Could the Giants be looking at Melbourne NGA prospect Mac Andrew?
Watch: https://twitter.com/traderadio/status/1444229668907913216
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Honestly woulsnt be listening to anything Rendell says. The bloke is a genuine lunatic.
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Do we have too many picks now?
Richmond 7, 15, 26, 28, 38, 42, 47
IMHO they are all live picks you can get a decent player at 47
Can we really bring on 7 new kids this year onto our list and give them game time?
Should we be looking to trade up and maybe have 6 picks or even 5?
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How's this for a thought trade CCJ and pick 7 for pick 1 from north?
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North wont do that and if they did theyd be stupid.
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How's this for a thought trade CCJ and pick 7 for pick 1 from north?
Points wise that is equivalent to CCJ being worth pick 9. So they're not going to do that.
Even ignoring the points, Norf wouldn't do it anyway as they aren't giving up Horne-Francis.
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RFC recruiter Matt Clarke on 7news tonight said we're in a good position having so many picks and this draft is our first top 10 pick since 2012 (Vlastuin).
7news added that we may be interested in defender Josh Gibcus but Clarke didn't mention any names or positional types we're interested in.
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RFC recruiter Matt Clarke on 7news tonight said we're in a good position having so many picks and this draft is our first top 10 pick since 2012 (Vlastuin).
7news added that we may be interested in defender Josh Gibcus but Clarke didn't mention any names or positional types we're interested in.
Here's the clip:
@Richmond_FC loom as major players in the upcoming trade period officially kicking off tomorrow, where some interesting moves are in the works.
Watch here: https://twitter.com/7NewsMelbourne/status/1444573104563359744
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We’ve pretty consistently stated a “best player available” approach to the draft but getting a replacement for Dylan Grimes would be pretty tempting.
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We’ve pretty consistently stated a “best player available” approach to the draft but getting a replacement for Dylan Grimes would be pretty tempting.
I'd be keen on Schlensog with a late pick. See how Miller goes for a year if he's worth a genuine chance.
Grimes is a generational player IMO, but I am biased...
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Richmond is poised to make a play for one of the draft’s best midfield prospects as it eyes a top-five pick.
Ben Hobbs.
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... At pick two Richmond would have guaranteed access to one of the two best young midfielders in the country in slick playmaker Finn Callaghan and hard nut Ben Hobbs.
Ben Hobbs is considered one of the best midfield prospects in the draft. ....
Paywall: https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/stay-up-to-date-with-the-latest-trade-free-agency-and-offseason-news-at-your-club/news-story/e8cffa2ab482a05ce62808ed04cc49de
Can anyone post the article?
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He is very slow from the highlites.
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He is very slow from the highlites.
Arrrrrrrrggggh!
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Dan Butler's brother was a standout at the draft combine.
http://oneeyed-richmond.com/forum/index.php?topic=31463.0
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Richmond is poised to make a play for one of the draft’s best midfield prospects as it eyes a top-five pick.
Ben Hobbs.
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... At pick two Richmond would have guaranteed access to one of the two best young midfielders in the country in slick playmaker Finn Callaghan and hard nut Ben Hobbs.
Ben Hobbs is considered one of the best midfield prospects in the draft. ....
Paywall: https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/stay-up-to-date-with-the-latest-trade-free-agency-and-offseason-news-at-your-club/news-story/e8cffa2ab482a05ce62808ed04cc49de
Can anyone post the article?
Hobbs will still be there at 7....Callaghan won't.... :shh
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Dan Butler's brother was a standout at the draft combine.
http://oneeyed-richmond.com/forum/index.php?topic=31463.0
He's already taller & perhaps even slightly faster than his brother, if he's also tougher and less fumbly with a better work rate then he'll be quite the player.... :shh
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AFL Draft - October's Power Rankings: A new No. 1 emerges as we close in on draft
ESPN.com.au's expert Chris Doerre has revealed his AFL Draft Power Rankings for the month of October and we have a new player at the top.
1. Jason Horne-Francis
Best position: Inside midfield/general forward
Height, weight: 184cm, 78kg
Recruited from: South Adelaide
Projected draft range: 1-2
Plays like: Toby Greene
September ranking: 2
Rationale: Finishing the SANFL season off with a bang, Horne-Francis' preliminary final was the performance of the season, and one that will stick with draft watchers for a long time. Over the last month of the season, Horne-Francis has arguably developed into the SANFL's premier and most influential player. What separates Horne-Francis from Daicos is his application and influence defensively, with his aggression, pressure, tackling, second and third efforts and run back in support elite even by AFL standards.
Strengths:
Consistency of application defensively
Pressure applied to the ball carrier
Strong tackler
Aggression
One-touch ground ball winner on the move at speed
Aerial marking
Contested marking
Impact per possession
Contested ball winning
Proven against senior state league opposition
Versatility to impact games both through the midfield and up forward
Scoreboard impact
AFL ready-to-go game
Weaknesses:
Inconsistent production
Inconsistency of impact offensively
2. Nick Daicos (Collingwood - Father-Son)
Best position: General midfield
Height, weight: 183cm, 72kg
Recruited from: Oakleigh Chargers
Projected draft range: 1-2
Plays like: Zach Merrett
September ranking: 1
Rationale: Had the NAB League season continued, Daicos may still be No. 1. The debate around the real #1 has been hotly debated all year and it should come as no surprise with no meaningful separation between the two young stars. Daicos is the more productive of the pair and finds the football at will around the ground, but defensively while much improved over his last month of his season, he isn't nearly on the same level, with his impact per possession also the lower of the pair.
Strengths:
Composure in traffic
Decision making under pressure
Anticipation of opposition decisions in traffic
Draws free kicks from high tackles
Agility
Evasion
Go-to-guy around the ground
Scoreboard impact
Inside-outside midfield balance
Versatility to impact games both through the midfield and forward
Stoppage work
Contested ball winning
Consistency
One-touch at ground level
Production
AFL ready
Weaknesses:
Inconsistent application defensively
Strength
3. Sam Darcy (Western Bulldogs - Father-Son)
Best position: Key forward
Height, weight: 205cm, 77kg
Recruited from: Oakleigh Chargers
Projected draft range: 3-5
Plays like: Max King
September ranking: 3
Rationale: In a draft lacking in the way of premier talls, Darcy is the standard of excellence. Given his rapid rate of improvement and mix of rare attributes at his height, he is one of this draft's highest upside choices for the long term.
Strengths:
Rate of improvement
One grab contested marking
Long arms and reach
Takes marks fully extended
Attack on the ball aerially
Early reading of the ball in flight
Protects the drop zone
Versatility to impact games as a key forward, key defender and through the ruck
Agility
One-touch at ground level
Instinctive finisher around goal
Speed to create separation on the lead
Weaknesses:
Endurance
Work rate
Repeat speed/repeat efforts
Strength
Will require time to develop before he can impact AFL games regularly
4. Finn Callaghan
Best position: Balanced midfielder
Height, weight: 189cm, 82kg
Recruited from: Sandringham Dragons
Projected draft range: 3-7
Plays like: Jared Polec
September ranking: 4
Rationale: Callaghan is an upside pick given he has grown later than many others. His special sauce is his rare movement for someone his height, with his agility, evasion and speed respectively special in traffic. If Callaghan becomes more aggressive with his attack on the ball and in his tackle attempts, he has the scope to be as good as any in this draft. Callaghan's ceiling which is elevated by his late growth spurt makes him one of this year's most appealing.
Strengths:
Rare time, space and composure in traffic
Evasion
Agility
Sidestep
Acceleration
Takes on the game at speed with ball in hand
Hits contests at speed and times his moves well to receive on the burst
Work rate
Endurance
Overlap run
Class and composure under pressure to hit his targets by hand or foot
Skill execution by hand and foot
Versatility to play inside or outside midfield
Weaknesses:
Lack of aggression
Contested ball winning
Tackling
5. Josh Ward
Best position: Balanced midfielder
Height, weight: 181cm, 79kg
Recruited from: Northern Knights
Projected draft range: 3-10
Plays like: Marc Murphy
September ranking: 5
Rationale: A low risk, ready-to-go midfielder who is one of the very best and most complete midfielders in this draft. His production and impact during the latter part of the NAB League campaign was up there with the play of Daicos.
Strengths:
Skills
Lowers his eyes and places kicks out in front of targets inside 50m to leadup onto
Vision
Decision making under pressure
Composure
Finishing around goal
Go-to-guy around the ground
Agility
Acceleration
Run and carry with ball in hand
Inside/outside midfield balance
Works hard both ways
Rises to the big occasion
AFL ready-to-go game
Production
Consistency
Weaknesses:
Unclear versatility
Limited scoreboard impact
6. Neil Erasmus
Best position: Inside midfield
Height, weight: 188cm, 80kg
Recruited from: Subiaco
Projected draft range: 3-10
Plays like: Elliot Yeo
September ranking: 12
Rationale: While the sample size of play this season has been small, review of Erasmus' early season play shows he's not far off the best midfielders in this pool. His overhead marking and ball winning capabilities are his greatest strengths and with a December birthday and a strong rate of improvement, Erasmus is deserving of early draft selection as one of the prime 'upside' choices.
Strengths:
Early reader of the ball in flight who consistently gets to the drop
Intercept marking
Aerial marking
Leap
Attack on the ball
Contested ball winning
Big game performer
Versatility to play inside/outside midfield or as a forward
Scoreboard impact
Consistency
Rate of improvement
Endurance
Weaknesses:
Inconsistent kick
Limited exposure against strong opposition
7. Matthew Roberts
Best position: Inside midfield
Height, weight: 183cm, 81kg
Recruited from: South Adelaide
Projected draft range: 10-30
Plays like: Dayne Beams
September ranking: 6
Rationale: One of this year's most advanced ball winners, Roberts is one of this year's ready-to-go midfielders. The continued tendency from Roberts to rush the ball on without lowering his eyes and taking his time to assess his best options has led to his drop.
Strengths:
One-touch ball winner below the knees
Contested ball winning
Endurance
Work rate
Spread from the contest
Clean hands in traffic
Distribution by hand
Damaging and penetrating left foot kick
Overhead marking
Inside/outside midfield balance
Versatility to play midfield, forward or back as required
Scoreboard impact
Production
AFL ready-to-go game
Weaknesses:
Prone to rushing under pressure and bombing long by foot for territory
Needs to take more time after a mark or free kick to assess his options before moving the ball on
Would benefit from lowering his eyes and looking to hit up shorter targets more often
Limited speed
Limited time and space in traffic
8. Matthew Johnson
Best position: Inside midfield
Height, weight: 192cm, 80kg
Recruited from: Subiaco
Projected draft range: 5-20
Plays like: Scott Pendlebury
September ranking: 18
Rationale: Finishing the WAFL Reserves season off strongly and named Western Australia's best in both of their clashes against South Australia, Johnson is rapidly progressing up draft boards around the country. A classy tall midfielder, there are few as composed and sound by both hand and foot as Johnson in this pool.
Strengths:
Composure
Classy and sound decision making with ball in hand
Creates time and space for himself in traffic
Evasion in traffic
Agility
Quick first step
Already knows what he is going to do before he gets ball in hand
Vision in traffic
Long handballs to targets
Reliable ball user who displays vision on his kicks
Places kicks out in front of leading targets inside-50m to lead onto
Makes something happen when he has ball in hand
Weaknesses:
Early season lack of consistency
Contested ball winning
9. Leek Alleer
Best position: Key defence
Height, weight: 196cm, 84kg
Recruited from: Central Districts
Projected draft range: 15-45
Plays like: Aliir Aliir
September ranking: 8
Rationale: Rapidly developing, Alleer has become an intercept marking force in the SANFL at League level. Although he is two years older than his peers, his scope to develop is enormous based on his rapid rate of development. His round 16 match against South Adelaide was the eye-opener with five contested marks, seeming to intercept every high ball that went near him. Alleer drops due to the rise of others but remains the top key defender on this draft board.
Strengths:
Intercept marking
Contested marking
Wins one-on-one contests routinely and often turns one-on-one contests into intercept marks
Aerial marking
Attack on the ball aerially
Reading of the ball in flight
Leap
Courage to back into packs and put his body on the line
Rapid rate of improvement
Speed
Weaknesses:
Finds little of the ball in general play
Limited as a rebounder
One-dimensional
10. Mac Andrew (Melbourne Next-Generation Academy)
Best position: Ruck
Height, weight: 200cm, 70kg
Recruited from: Dandenong Stingrays
Projected draft range: 2-10
Plays like: Paddy Ryder
September ranking: 9
Rationale: Andrew is a light bodied ruckman and long-term project player who is likely to spend his early years developing as a key position player while he adds muscle to his light frame. What is breathtaking with Andrew is how high he leaps at centre bounces, often getting his waist above the head of rival rucks when he gets a clear jump at the ball. Andrew's drop can be attributed to the rise of others.
Strengths:
Leap
Soft hands through ruck
Hitouts to advantage
Long arms and reach
Clean below the knees
Tackling
Mobile
Clean by hand and foot
Reading of the ball in flight
Contested marking
Weaknesses:
Strength
Too light at this stage to play through the ruck and will need to start his career as a key position player
Struggles through the ruck when a body engages him and prevents him from using his leap to advantage
Struggles one-on-one
A long term project who is likely to require a number of years before his play converts to AFL performance
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11. Mitch Owens (St Kilda Next-Generation Academy)
Best position: Utility
Height, weight: 190cm, 85kg
Recruited from: Sandringham Dragons
Projected draft range: 10-30
Plays like: David Mundy
September ranking: Outside-20
Rationale: Growing around 15cm between the start of 2019 and the beginning of 2021, Owens is a late developer who only in the last month of the NAB League season entered first round contention. His performance as a late callup for Vic Metro in a trial match against Vic Country was the game that elevated his draft standing, securing 29 disposals, one goal and two score assists. He immediately backed this up with strong NAB League play for Sandringham. With his movement, overhead marking, ball winning capabilities and rapid rate of improvement, Owens is an upside choice who with continued rapid improvement could be one of this draft's very best. Had the season not been cut short, while there is an element of speculation in rating Owens this high, with the way he was developing, he may well have been rated even more highly.
Strengths:
Late growth
Rate of development
Agility
Speed
Courage
Intercept marking
Aerial marking
Versatility
Inside/outside balance
Contested ball winning
Weaknesses:
Unclear best position
Not as advanced as other top end prospects
12. Arlo Draper
Best position: Utility
Height, weight: 185cm, 71kg
Recruited from: South Adelaide
Projected draft range: 5-25
Plays like: Robbie Gray
September ranking: 10
Rationale: With his mix of contested ball winning, classy ball use, agility and strong marking, Draper is one of this draft's more appealing and versatile prospects. While Draper's season unfortunately has ended due to a shoulder injury during South Australia's second clash against Western Australia, his drop can be attributed to the rise of others.
Strengths:
Contested ball winning
Tackling
Stoppage craft
Composure in traffic
Decision making with ball in hand
Clean hands
Vision
Locating and hitting targets by foot in the corridor
Lowers his eyes for kicks inside 50m
Overhead marking
Contested marking
Agility
Evasion
Acceleration
Takes on the game with his run
Versatility to play midfield, forward or in defence
Scoreboard impact
Weaknesses:
Strength
Lack of outside accumulation
Injury prone
13. Bodhi Uwland (Gold Coast - Academy)
Best position: Inside midfield
Height, weight: 185cm, 84kg
Recruited from: Gold Coast
Projected draft range: 40+
Plays like: Luke Hodge
September ranking: 11
Rationale: One of the lesser-known prospects, Uwland is as aggressive and competitive as any in this draft. Uwland is not just a strong ball winner, but a powerful athlete who shrugs tackles at will and has a penetrating and damaging kick. His drop can be attributed to the rise of others.
Strengths:
Contested ball winning
Powerful shrugging of tackles
Aggression
Physical edge
Penetrating and damaging but reliable kick
Kicks placed out to the advantage side for teammates to lead onto
Decision making with ball in hand
Vision
Evasion
Agility
Acceleration
Leap
Versatility to impact games either through the midfield, defence or across half-forward
Proven performer against VFL competition
Weaknesses:
Endurance
Work rate
Reading of the drop of the ball
14. Zac Taylor
Best position: Balanced midfielder
Height, weight: 180cm, 74kg
Recruited from: Calder Cannons
Projected draft range: 15-45
Plays like: Jy Simpkin
September ranking: 13
Rationale: With one of the strongest closes to the NAB League season, the only question is what Taylor could have produced had the season extended longer. One of the most productive and complete midfielders in this draft, Taylor ended his NAB League campaign with 37 disposals, 22 contested possessions and 11 clearances in a 10-point win against Murray. Taylor's drop can be attributed to the rise of others.
Strengths:
Production
Precise and damaging kick
Vision to hit meaningful targets around the ground and inside 50m
Decision making under pressure
Distribution by hand
Composure with ball in hand
Speed
Agility
Evasion
Inside/outside midfield balance
Contested ball winning
Weaknesses:
Limited scoreboard impact
Unclear forward capabilities
Lack of height and size
15. Josh Rachele
Best position: Utility
Height, weight: 180cm, 78kg
Recruited from: Murray Bushrangers
Projected draft range: 5-20
Plays like: Alan Didak
September ranking: 16
Rationale: Possessing the versatility to play through the midfield, win first possession and hurt teams forward of centre by foot, there is a case to be made that Rachele while he hasn't had the opportunity could also set up play by foot from defence. Consideration around Rachele's potential scope to play in defence elevates Rachele's position on this draft board slightly.
Strengths:
Best in class level precision kick
Kicks placed out in front of targets to lead onto
Scoreboard impact
First possession winning at stoppages
Explosive speed
Agility
Forward pressure
Tackling
Aerial marking threat
Ground level craft
Versatility to impact games both as a forward and through the midfield
Possible versatility to play in defence
AFL ready-to-go game
Weaknesses:
Finds little easy outside ball
Endurance
Lack of consistency
Relatively limited progression since 2019
16. Nasiah Wanganeen-Milera
Best position: Outside midfield/general defence
Height, weight: 188cm, 70kg
Recruited from: Glenelg
Projected draft range: 5-25
Plays like: Shane Edwards
September ranking: 15
Rationale: Spending most of the season in the SANFL Reserves and playing good football, Wanganeen-Milera has played a consistently exciting brand of football. His performances for South Australia against Western Australia have only elevated his draft stocks, although with others improving, Wanganeen-Milera even with his strong play moves down one spot.
Strengths:
Agility
Evasion
Creates time and space with ball in hand
Composure with ball in hand
Precision kicking
Decision making
Vision
Versatility to play outside or in defence
Impact per possession
Performances on the board
Weaknesses:
Lack of size or strength
Contested ball winning
17. Mitch Knevitt
Best position: Inside midfield
Height, weight: 194cm, 83kg
Recruited from: Geelong Falcons
Projected draft range: 10-35
Plays like: Patrick Cripps
September ranking: Outside-20
Rationale: A tall, strong bodied midfielder, Knevitt was one of Vic Country's stars in their challenge match against Vic Metro. His second half to the NAB League season was also excellent and elevated his position on draft boards. In re-assessing his rate of improvement there is a good deal of scope for his game to translate to AFL level if his midfield craft and ball winning capabilities continues to improve.
Strengths:
Strength to stand up through tackles
Distribution by hand
Tackling
Pressure applied to the ball carrier
High work rate
Overhead marking
Contested marking
Contested ball winning
Versatility
Weaknesses:
Lack of consistency or hurt factor by foot
Relatively low impact per possession
18. Ben Hobbs
Best position: Inside midfield
Height, weight: 183cm, 80kg
Recruited from: Greater Western Victoria
Projected draft range: 3-15
Plays like: Matt Crouch
September ranking: 19
Rationale: A dominant contested ball winner and tackler, Hobbs is one of the readiest to play midfielders in this draft. Lacking in the way of speed, athleticism and x-factor, Hobbs doesn't play the most exciting brand of football but is nonetheless effective and dependable. His improved position on this draft board comes off the back of reviewing his performance against Vic Metro. There is a high floor to Hobbs' game when compared to the other remaining midfielders as a safer and less speculative pick.
Strengths:
First possession winner at stoppages
Contested ball winning
Tackling
Distribution by hand
Scoreboard impact
Outside accumulation and involvement around the ground
Versatility to push forward as part of a large midfield rotation as required
Reading of the ball in flight
Overhead marking
Production
AFL ready-to-go game
Weaknesses:
A stationary ball winner who rarely wins the ball at speed or on the move
Limited time and space in traffic
Lack of speed
Lack of athleticism
Lack of agility
Low impact per possession
19. Jye Amiss
Best position: Key forward
Height, weight: 195cm, 83kg
Recruited from: East Perth
Projected draft range: 5-25
Plays like: Jack Gunston
August ranking: Outside-20
Rationale: A late bloomer, Amiss has this year become the dominant goalkicker in the junior ranks, kicking a WAFL Colts competition high 51 goals from his 15 games and the highest across any of the junior competitions. The intrigue with Amiss is he's a late bloomer who has only this year played WAFL Colts. He has been living and training in Busselton, over 200km away from East Perth, and given this, the sense with Amiss is there is substantial untapped upside which in an AFL program will surface. While his finish to the season with no goals in his two WAFL Colts finals and two forgettable performances against South Australia isn't the way Amiss would have wanted to end his season, his goalkicking during the year and scope to develop will sell clubs on his prospects and earn him a spot inside the top-20.
Strengths:
Speed to create separation on the lead
Marking on the lead
Aerial marking
Contested marking
Set shot conversion
Clean at ground level
Late developer
Limited training opportunities to date suggest upside in an AFL setting
Weaknesses:
Unclear versatility
Contested ball winning
Struggles to get involved when the delivery isn't top notch
Lacks composure with ball in hand in general play
20. Josh Gibcus
Best position: Key defence
Height, weight: 195cm, 84kg
Recruited from: Greater Western Victoria
Projected draft range: 10-20
Plays like: Liam Jones
September ranking: Outside-20
Rationale: On review of Gibcus' early season play where he was aggressive in flying for intercept marks, it's clear he has the capability to intercept to a good level and be an aerial marking threat in defence. With the intercepting and negating components to his game, there is a good deal of scope for Gibcus to develop.
Strengths:
Vertical and running vertical jump
Contested marking
Intercept marking
Reading of the ball in flight
One-on-one defence
Shutdown capabilities
Tackling
Weaknesses:
Low frequency of impact Intercepts infrequently when focused on locking down his direct opponent
Limited as a rebounder
Looks lost when asked to play forward
https://www.espn.com/afl/story/_/id/32333737/afl-draft-2021-phantom-draft-power-rankings-october-new-no-1-emerges-jason-horne-francis-close-draft
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Hobbs and Erasmus are apparently our 2 main midfielder targets.
With Chol and CCJ leaving, the club are looking at Amiss with their first pick.
Long, JVR are still on the radar. Gibcus looking like he will be gone.
Goater and Wanganeen-Milera are a couple of other players we have kept tabs on.
https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/2021-draft-pool.1252517/post-72471476
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I'd like to see us have a punt on Hobbs and Amiss
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I'd like to see us move up the daeft if we xan
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Im 51 and I reckon I could run faster than hobbs.
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Im 51 and I reckon I could run faster than hobbs.
I'm 66 and bloody sure I couldn't.
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Callum Twomey with Nat Edwards on the AFL website:
6 min mark: https://omny.fm/shows/road-to-the-afl-draft/pick-swaps-late-risers-and-vic-country-prospect-ca
Giants are open to moving down the order if they can still get the player they want.
Gold Coast have looked at moving down as have Adelaide.
Richmond at 7 & 15 have looked to package up their picks to move up.
GC/Adel - Callaghan/Hobbs
Haw - sit and wait to see what it gets through. Ward/Hobbs or do they go with another key position type in Gibcus.
Richmond - Hobbs if they can move up. So much love and he is seen as a future skipper and replacement for Cotchin.
https://www.afl.com.au/news/683093/listen-potential-top-20-prospect-reveals-friendship-with-eddie-mcguire
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Reading his bio he sounds underwhelming, but so was Greg Williams…
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This talk from the media of us trying to move our frst up to get Hobbs is purely just speculative nonsense...not only will he still be there at 7(9) there's a fair chance he still will be at 15(17)....if we're trying to move up then surely it's for the likes of Ward, Erasmus or Callaghan? :shh
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This talk from the media of us trying to move our frst up to get Hobbs is purely just speculative nonsense...not only will he still be there at 7(9) there's a fair chance he still will be at 15(17)....if we're trying to move up then surely it's for the likes of Ward, Erasmus or Callaghan? :shh
Yep you'd think so.
Dio, where do you think Amiss will go? One of the better KPF options. Is he worth a punt with 7(9)? Hobbs will likely be there at 15 like you said.
Also keen on Chesser who seems to be a 15-20 pick so it's a damned shame we haven't secured another pick in that range with all of our 3rd rounders.
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This talk from the media of us trying to move our frst up to get Hobbs is purely just speculative nonsense...not only will he still be there at 7(9) there's a fair chance he still will be at 15(17)....if we're trying to move up then surely it's for the likes of Ward, Erasmus or Callaghan? :shh
100% ;)
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:shh
Dio, where do you think Amiss will go? One of the better KPF options. Is he worth a punt with 7(9)? Hobbs will likely be there at 15 like you said.
Assuming they get 6( 8 ) from the scumbaggers for Cerra, reckon Amiss won't get past Freo's second pick 8(10) at the lowest and they'll probably even take him at 6 if they miss out on Erasmus ...either way I'd be very surprised if we took him at 7(9)... :shh
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If we miss out on Amiss , I’d be happy with One or Two of Van Rooyen, Williams Bazzo or Alleer, Gibcus would likely be picked
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Of the big blokes I like Rhett Bazzo
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Twomey reckons Roberts will go the late 20's - early 30's.......mind you he also reckoned Naish would go top 10.... :shh
Mitch Knevitt looks like he could rise up the ranks -193 cm mid who just ran second in the 20 m sprint at the combine (2.976).... :shh :shh
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Shockers now have 4 picks inside the top 22...reckon they'll jump on the Sandgropers ..which will probably include at least one of Van Rooyen & Bazzo...though they might have to give up one to trade for Clarke... :shh
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Q: Who is Richmond trying to trade up to draft?
Ben Waterworth: They like Ben Hobbs.
Source:[/b] Foxsports' live chat.
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I don't reckon Hobbs is worth to trade up to alot better players in the draft might be there at 15 is this a smokescreen.
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I reckon they want Callaghan or Walsh or as i like to say preferably both.
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I reckon they want Callaghan or Walsh or as i like to say preferably both.
Walsh?? Do you mean Ward
Either way looks like we want to fix the midfield with two quality mids
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Current picks and total draft points:
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FBFaMPzUcAAT9y_?format=jpg&name=large)
https://twitter.com/BigFootyDraft/status/1446036128235081728
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Rumour has it, we’re poised to swap picks 42 and 47 for Collingwoods 27
Pick 40 seems to be where it’s at for CCJ :(
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I reckon they want Callaghan or Walsh or as i like to say preferably both.
Walsh?? Do you mean Ward
Either way looks like we want to fix the midfield with two quality mids
Yes sorry Ward who is who Im hoping we get on draft night
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Rumour has it, we’re poised to swap picks 42 and 47 for Collingwoods 27
Pick 40 seems to be where it’s at for CCJ :(
I would do 42 and 47 for 27. Thats not a bad trade for us.
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That would give us 26 27 28 all in a row.
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Rumour has it, we’re poised to swap picks 42 and 47 for Collingwoods 27
Pick 40 seems to be where it’s at for CCJ :(
Why would pies do this? Points almost identical?
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Rumour has it, we’re poised to swap picks 42 and 47 for Collingwoods 27
Pick 40 seems to be where it’s at for CCJ :(
Why would Collingwood do that? … it’s pretty much the same point value
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To break up their pick to get Pat Lipinski and some left over ?
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Rumour has it, we’re poised to swap picks 42 and 47 for Collingwoods 27
Pick 40 seems to be where it’s at for CCJ :(
I would do 42 and 47 for 27. Thats not a bad trade for us.
That's an excellent trade for us...
..which means it probably ain't happening.... :shh
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That would give us 26 27 28 all in a row.
3 picks in a row could be handy in setting up a list
Or the combined points is just over 2100 or just above pick 4
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Richmond has plans to take five top-30 picks to this year's #AFLDraft.
Here's how the Tigers plan to get it done, via @ByMarcMcGowan:
Paywall: https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/trade-hq/afl-trade-period-day-five-latest-trades-and-free-agency-signing-news/news-story/7a74bce5a78125b052973a20827fe0cb
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According to Matt Rendell:
1. North - Horne-Francis
2. GWS want Mac Andrew.
3. Suns want Hobbs.
4. Crows want Callaghan.
5. Hawks very keen on getting Callaghan as well. Trying to swap first round picks with GWS. Rendell thinks they will be offering up Gunston including paying the first year of Gunston's 700k salary.
https://twitter.com/traderadio
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So will it go like this
1. Pies Daicos
2. North - Horne-Francis
3. WB - Darcy
4. GWS - Mac Andrew.
5. Suns - Hobbs.
6. Crows - Callaghan.
7. Hawks - Ward
8. Dockers - Eramus
9. Tigers -
Who we taking if it pans out this way?
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Josh Gibcus
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NWM/Rachelle :shh
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Roberts , maybe Johnson
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Current draft picks and points:
(http://oneeyed-richmond.com/images/draft/draftpicks09102021.png)
Source: Lore on BF.
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So will it go like this
1. Pies Daicos
2. North - Horne-Francis
3. WB - Darcy
4. GWS - Mac Andrew.
5. Suns - Hobbs.
6. Crows - Callaghan.
7. Hawks - Ward
8. Dockers - Eramus
9. Tigers -
Who we taking if it pans out this way?
The West Australian is saying the Dockers are very keen on Josh Rachele as are the Eagles.
https://twitter.com/TheWestSport/status/1446401249889427456
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It’s a smoke screen. They want Erasmus and Johnson
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Roberts , maybe Johnson
Yeah we could find ourselves at the crossroads here.... :shh
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https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/attachments/img_20211009_094445-jpg.1256548/
Another Toby Greene? Yes please.... :shh
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Rachele, we were reported to be keen early days
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Take the best available with our first whether that's a pure midfielder or not...draft is supposedly choc full of quality midfield prospects so we should still get at least a couple....and if the best available just so happens to be Rachelle and he is indeed like Toby Greene then he'll be pretty bloody handy rotating though the middle anyway....:shh
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Best available with our first two then look at needs
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You can watch the SA and WA kids again when they face off tomorrow arvo.
Bazzo and Roberts are back but no Horne-Francis, Amiss, Draper, Van Rooyen, Erasmus and Johnson though.
Stream link in here: https://www.afl.com.au/news/682999/watch-live-sa-v-wa-in-u19-champs-clash-on-sunday
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South Australia and Western Australia will again face off in the latest NAB AFL U19 Championships clash on Sunday, October 10.
The game will be played at South Australia's Thebarton Oval and you can watch a LIVE stream of all the action in the player below from 1.30pm ACDT/2pm AEDT.
Blayne O'Loughlin, the nephew of Sydney great Michael, was South Australia's best in that game and he will again be fronting up for this clash. Son of Brownlow medallist Shane Woewodin, Taj, has been selected for Western Australia along with the brother of Carlton star Patrick Cripps, Josh.
Nas Wanganeen-Milera (the nephew of Port Adelaide and Essendon champion Gavin) and Jesse Motlop (the son of former Kangaroo and Power forward Daniel) will line up for South Australia and Western Australia respectively.
SOUTH AUSTRALIA
B: M.Litster, Z.Becker, B.O'Loughlin
HB: J.Burgoyne, O.Adams, S Linke
C: B.Calvett, A. D'Aloia, N.Wanganeen-Milera
HF: M.Ferres, L.Cooke, C.Kennedy
F: J.Owens, H.Lemmey, I.Dudley
Foll: O.Steene, M.Liddy, M.Roberts
I/C: L.Grubb, H.Harrison, A.Lord, M.Michalanney, J.Parish
Emg: D.McGary, Z.Phillips, H.Stagg, L.Whitelum
WESTERN AUSTRALIA
B: F.Gorringe, J. McIlvinney, J. McVee
HB: R.Bazzo, J.Avery, B.Watson
C: A.Jones, K.Dittmar, C.Warner
HF: B.Hough, J.Williams, L.Paton
F: J.Motlop, E.Benning, E.Regan
Foll: J.Cripps, G.Sheldrick, T.Woewodin
I/C: J. Browne, M.Chipper, Z.Fleiner, K.Harbour, L.Polson, J.Tunstill
https://www.afl.com.au/news/682999/watch-live-sa-v-wa-in-u19-champs-clash-on-sunday
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Draft Central Power Rankings: October 2021
Michael Alvaro
afldraftcentral.com.au
6 October 2021
(https://cdn.draftcentral.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2021/10/DC-Power-Rankings-update-Oct.jpg)
#11 Tyler Sonsie
#12 Josh Rachele
#13 Arlo Draper
#14 Jye Amiss
#15 Matthew Johnson
#16 Josh Sinn
#17 Josh Goater
#18 Matthew Roberts
#19 Campbell Chesser
#20 Darcy Wilmot
#21 Sam Butler
#22 Tom Brown
#23 Jacob van Rooyen
#24 Jack Williams
#25 Zac Taylor
#26 Jesse Motlop (FRE NGA)
#27 Blake Howes
#28 Mitch Knevitt
#29 Josh Fahey
#30 Corey Warner
Read the full descriptions and summaries here: https://afl.draftcentral.com.au/2021/10/04/draft-central-power-rankings-october-2021/
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Anyone rate Darcy Wilmott. Has a bit of the Nick Vlastuins about him as a player and has decent leadership abilities from what Ive heard. Early 20s pick maybe.
Wilmot highlights: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=npfOhsJ3rjY
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#20 Darcy Wilmot
Northern Knights/Vic Metro | Small Defender
31/12/2003 | 182cm | 70kg
September Ranking: #20
Snapshot:
Wilmot is a tenacious and brave half-back whose most flashy weapons show on the attack, as he breaks the lines with great speed and ball use. Wilmot has thrust his name into contention with increasingly impressive performances for the Northern Knights in 2021, as well as an impressive senior debut at local football level. The small-medium defender has all the typical class and running prowess you would expect on the rebound, but is also willing to compete above his size in aerial contests. The 17-year-old still has plenty of development left as a December 31 birth, meaning he only just makes the cut to be eligible for this year’s draft. His run-and-gun style is sure to catch many more eyes as the season continues, with Wilmot a prospect truly on the rise.
(https://cdn.draftcentral.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2021/08/NK-Darcy-Wilmot-5-1024x683.jpg)
https://afl.draftcentral.com.au/2021/10/04/draft-central-power-rankings-october-2021/
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Too skinny
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I reckon he'll fill out to about 82 or 83kgs in a good program. He also made the draft by 1 day which means most players in this draft have 1 extra year on him and he was captaining them so he has clear leadership. He could spend 12 months in our program and come out 12 months later and be a very capable afl footballer.
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South Australia and Western Australia will again face off in the latest NAB AFL U19 Championships clash on Sunday, October 10.
The game will be played at South Australia's Thebarton Oval and you can watch a LIVE stream of all the action in the player below from 1.30pm ACDT/2pm AEDT.
Blayne O'Loughlin, the nephew of Sydney great Michael, was South Australia's best in that game and he will again be fronting up for this clash. Son of Brownlow medallist Shane Woewodin, Taj, has been selected for Western Australia along with the brother of Carlton star Patrick Cripps, Josh.
Nas Wanganeen-Milera (the nephew of Port Adelaide and Essendon champion Gavin) and Jesse Motlop (the son of former Kangaroo and Power forward Daniel) will line up for South Australia and Western Australia respectively.
https://www.afl.com.au/news/682999/watch-live-sa-v-wa-in-u19-champs-clash-on-sunday
Another game down to the wire. With 10 seconds to go WA's Sheldrick (who was BOG) intercepted a SA handpass at HF and ran in to kick the sealer.
I didn't see the first half but Bazzo wasn't out there in the second half.
WA 9.14-68
SA 9.4-58
Goals:
WA - Williams 2, Paton 2, Jones, Dittmar, Sheldrick, Harbour, Polson
SA - Cooke 4, Lemmey , Ferres, Whitelum, Stagg, Burgoyne
Disposals
WA
Sheldrick 26 ... 5 tackles
Browne 20
Tunstill 17
Chipper 16
Gorringe 16
Paton 15
Dittmar 14 ... 7 tackles
Williams 12
SA
Roberts 23
Linke 21 ... 7 tackles
O'Loughlin 18
Litster 18
Burgoyne 17 ... 10 in the 3rd qtr.
Liddy 16
Adams 10
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This is about Freo's picks 6 & 8 but our pick 7 is between theirs so it's relevant to us as a guide.
PICK 6 OPTIONS
This draft selection is likely to turn into Pick 8, with Nick Daicos (Collingwood) and Sam Darcy (Western Bulldogs) almost certain to attract bids within the first four selections.
By this time, SA star Jason Horne-Francis will be off the table – possibly by Pick 1 – while exciting utility Mac Andrew and gun midfielder Finn Callaghan should’ve also been snapped up by other clubs.
There’s also a strong chance a team would’ve pounced on GWV Rebels defender Josh Gibcus – the Jake Lever of this draft with his awesome intercepting ability – by then. But that won’t concern the Dockers, as they’re already stacked with key backmen.
If those six are off the board, it’d mean one of Ben Hobbs, Josh Ward and Josh Rachele would be available at the Dockers’ first selection.
Excluding one NAB League match where he got injured, Hobbs averaged 29.2 disposals, 6.2 clearances and 0.8 goals per game this year. But he is more a contested ball winner – and the Dockers are keen for some outside run, especially with Cerra being a high uncontested possession player
Ward would be a great get for Freo. Not only can he win the ball at will – he averaged 30.2 disposals in the NAB League this year — he loves to run and carry, is a polished distributor and has the potential to play very early AFL footy in 2022.
Rachele looms as a wildcard selection but could help address the Dockers’ pressure issue. An uber-talented forward-midfielder blessed with goalkicking nous and x-factor, Rachele is a maximum impact player in that most of his disposals lead to scores for his team. He kicked 11 goals from four NAB League matches — the best goals-per-match average in the competition — while he also ranked second for average score involvements (7.5).
Rachele could be taken as high as Pick 5, but could also slide to late in the first round. Murray Bushrangers talent manager Mick Wilson told The West Australian he’s had “lots of conversations” with the Dockers and Eagles about Rachele.
The Dockers could also pounce on some of the top WA talent at this selection, but they’d be hopeful a few would still be available two picks later.
PICK 8 OPTIONS
This selection will almost certainly be Pick 10 – and it’s also where the WA prospects will start to draw interest.
Arguably the state’s top prospect is Subiaco’s Neil Erasmus, who was the second-highest ranked player in the WAFL colts, according to Champion Data, and was among the top five players for disposals, contested possessions, intercept marks, clearances and score assists. The 188cm midfielder showed in last year’s WAFL colts grand final he can also be dangerous up forward, kicking four goals as a bottom-ager in Subiaco’s premiership triumph.
If the Dockers don’t go for a midfielder with their first selection and Erasmus is still available two selections later, it’s hard to see them passing on him.
But it’s also the selection where the Dockers could look to address their key forward chasm – and East Perth’s Jye Amiss is arguably the best key forward in the open draft.
The 195cm prospect was deadly in front of goal this year, booting 51.14 from 13 home and away WAFL colts matches – clearly the most in the competition. He also ranked second in the WAFL colts for contested marks (3.0) and No. 1 for marks inside 50 (3.5).
Another WA young gun that could be in the mix is Subiaco’s Matthew Johnson, who had a strong finish to his 2021 campaign. His early-season form in the colts was awesome before he struggled to adapt at league level. But he found his groove in the reserves, averaging 25 disposals and seven marks from his final three games, which included two finals. He was then named WA’s best player in an Under 19 challenge game against SA at Optus Stadium on AFL Grand Final day, showing great poise with 21 disposals and five clearances.
Johnson is a classy outside ball-winner with great footy nous and decision-making skills. Although Fremantle’s second selection might be a bit too early for him.
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And who will be available in the early second round if we could trade for an upgraded pick.
PICK 19 OR PICK 22 OPTIONS
Whichever selection the Dockers ultimately take to the draft, they’ll have plenty of terrific options at the start of the second round. Again the pick will be at least two spots back after the Daicos and Darcy father-son bids.
If the Dockers are still looking to draft an outside runner at the start of the second round, they’d be hopeful Sandringham’s Josh Sinn would be available after an injury-interrupted 2021. At 186cm, Sinn is a line-breaker that uses his natural leg speed, run and carry ability to gain territory for his side.
But picking up Sinn in the second round might be wishful thinking.
There’ll be ample midfielders to choose at this point, too. Matthew Roberts (South Adelaide) could still be on the board, as could Sam Butler (GWV Rebels) and Zac Taylor (Calder Cannons). Roberts and Taylor tend to win more uncontested ball than Butler, who’s the brother of St Kilda’s Dan Butler.
If the Dockers haven’t taken a key forward by the second round, two WA products could fit the bill.
Claremont’s Jacob Van Rooyen was unleashed at WAFL league level for five games this year, but did most of his damage at WAFL colts level, booting 34.14 from nine games – an impressive average of nearly four goals per outing. He also starred for WA’s Under 19s side as a backman after a year that was interrupted by glandular fever.
East Fremantle’s Jack Williams could also still be available. Williams is a versatile 196cm prospect that kicked 40.24 in the WAFL colts this season, including two goals in a semi-final then three goals in a prelim. But he also played both as a key defender and pinch-hit ruckman throughout the season, averaging 14.5 disposals, 5.9 marks and 9.2 hit-outs per game.
https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/teams/fremantle-dockers/afl-draft-2021-fremantle-trade-news-jordan-clark-deal-rory-lobb-giants-latest-neil-erasmus-jye-amiss-jacob-van-rooyen/news-story/258e08246521ce6fab2e524fca101c1d
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BEST INSIDE MIDFIELDER IN THE DRAFT!!
Ben Hobbs 2021 Highlights:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sR01R69wTog
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he likes a handball, but I spose they played the same footage over and over so it might of just looked like that. Looks like he is ready to go though
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He won't get to 9
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Looks like he has strong hips. Need an extractor like that
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Yeah he looks solid.
And we definitely need an inside beast.
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Yeah he looks solid.
And we definitely need an inside beast.
Yes, and one that can reliably get the ball.
Despite all of Grahams tackling ability he doesn't consistently find the pill yet. Still valuable but we need 1-2 blokes who are going to get 25-30 touches and actually win some clearances.
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BEST INSIDE MIDFIELDER IN THE DRAFT!!
Ben Hobbs 2021 Highlights:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sR01R69wTog
Gold Coast bound.
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Slow as treacle
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Slow as treacle
Doesn't matter.
Prestias not exactly quick either.
Nor was Jobe Watson but he was a midfield bull and clearance king (even prior to being a druggo).
Just need a fat ass and strong hips. Keep those arms up and get the ball out to guys like Edwards.
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Sam Mitchell was slow too.
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Funny year, if he gets through they will likely jump in him, what’s the chance though.
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Slow as treacle
Doesn't matter.
Prestias not exactly quick either.
Nor was Jobe Watson but he was a midfield bull and clearance king (even prior to being a druggo).
Just need a fat ass and strong hips. Keep those arms up and get the ball out to guys like Edwards.
Slow players rarely make it ... only very few can get away with that type of deficiency. We cant risk an early pick on that type of risk. If he had some burst away from the contest hed be a great get byt he hasnt got it.
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Slow as treacle
Doesn't matter.
Prestias not exactly quick either.
Nor was Jobe Watson but he was a midfield bull and clearance king (even prior to being a druggo).
Just need a fat ass and strong hips. Keep those arms up and get the ball out to guys like Edwards.
Slow players rarely make it ... only very few can get away with that type of deficiency. We cant risk an early pick on that type of risk. If he had some burst away from the contest hed be a great get byt he hasnt got it.
Know who else has always been considered slow? Jack Riewoldt.
I know what you're saying though...
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A couple of different 'guesses' from BF's draft watchers.
1. Coll - Nick Daicos (bid)
2. NM - Jason Horne-Francis
3. WB - Sam Darcy (bid)
4. GWS - Mac Andrew
5. GC - Finn Callaghan
6. Adel - Hobbs/Ward/Erasmus (maybe keen on Rachele)
7. Haw - Hobbs/Ward/Erasmus
https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/davo-27s-2021-u18-draft-thread.1252633/page-26#post-72583748
1.JHF-North Melbourne
2.Darcy-bid/GWS Match-WB
3.Andrew-GWS
4.Daicos-bid/GCS- Match Collingwood
5.Gibcus-GCS
6.Callaghan-Adelaide
7.Goater-Hawthorn
8.Erasmus-Fremantle
9.Hobbs-Richmond
10-Amiss-Fremantle
11.Ward-StKilda
12.Johnson-Westcoast
13.Sonsie-Essendon
14.Chesser-Sydney
15.Sinn-GWS
16.VanRooyen-Brisbane Lions
17.Rachele-Richmond
18.Roberts-Port
19.-Draper-Melbourne
20.Wanganeen Milera-Brisbane Lions
https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/2021-draft-predictions.1282824/post-72569670
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Matt Rendell is now claiming Gold Coast will take Callaghan at Pick 3. They did have interest in Hobbs but have now settled on Callaghan. GWS still keen on Andrew at Pick 2.
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After the Vic Metro NAB AFL Draft Combine was postponed on Sunday, the boys still got to work! 🏃♂️⏱
Using Strava, all those invited to the Combine (excluding injured players) recorded themselves running a two-kilometre Time Trial.
Here are the Top 6! 🔥🔥
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https://twitter.com/NABLeague/status/1447444969506041856
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From Foxsports' live chat:
Q: Who do u think in a draft regard gws Gold Coast and Richmond take with there first picks?
Ben Waterworth: I'd say mac Andrew at Giants and Callaghan at Suns.
Tigers I reckon would probably want best mid and Erasmus could fall around that pick
Q: anyway for richmond to replace houli at this point ben? tarrant for astbury is great but houli hurts with no clear replacement
Ben Waterworth: There's a few good half-back options at the draft. Darcy Wilmot and Campbell Chesser fall around 15 (down to 17)
Q: If Ward and Callaghan are off the board, will Hawks take Hobbs or Rachele or Erasmus?
Ben Waterworth: I don't think they need a Hobbs type. Rachele I reckon would suit them as that exciting, maximuim damage small forward. But if they want a well-rounded on-baller, Erasmus might be next best
Q: Hi Ben , if as seems Andrew to GWS , Rachele to Adelaide or Freo , Erasmus ,Amiss and Wanganeen coming into the top 10 now someone has to slide to saints at 11 based on sides likely needs could Ward or Hobbs drop that… more
Ben Waterworth: I would say it's unlikiely. I'd be surprised if Amiss was taken before Ward or Hobbs, so too Wanganeen-Milera
Q: Could Wanganeen-Milera go at pick 4 to Adelaide?
Ben Waterworth: He's a bolter no doubt, but that's too early for mine
Q: Freo to take Wanganeen-Milera at 6 or 8?
Ben Waterworth: Reckon 8 is a bout right (considering that'll likely turn into 10)
Q: North: Horne-Francis, GWS: Andrew, Gold Coast: Callaghan, Adelaide: Rachele and Hawthorn: Ward. Thoughts?
Ben Waterworth: That's how I read it at this stage, but so much time still
Q: who could be a steal in the draft this year?
Ben Waterworth: Tyler Sonsie likely to slide. But boy if he gets a good run with injury, he has top-five talent and could be a ripper pick-up
https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/department-of-trade/afl-trade-news-rumours-whispers-2021-trade-blog-and-live-chat-for-october-12-trade-targets-deals-remaining-updates-bobby-hill-essendon/news-story/1a7e723149bfe2d9029fadd3e155362c
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Q: Ben Hobbs or Josh Ward?
Ben Waterworth: Hobbs is your classic insde mid but a VERY good one at that, Ward has a few more tricks. I'd probably take Hobbs
Ben Waterworth: Yea I'm a fan [of Hobbs]. Excluding one match where he got injured, he averaged 29.2 disposals, 6.2 clearances and kicked 0.8 goals in the NAB League. But Hobbs was arguably more impressive in the trial matches, averaging 31.5 disposals and 1.5 goals from those two games.
Q: What pick does Finn Callahan go. I hear the hawks are desperate to trade up and try and get him
Ben Waterworth: Can't see him sliding past the Suns at this stage.
Q: Will Josh Rachele be available for the Dockers around any of their first 2 picks? I heard the Dockers have interest in him. I'd take him with one of the Dockers first 2 picks as he is a game winner.
Ben Waterworth: yes the Bushrangers talent manager said both Freo and Eagles had enquired about Rachele. Strong chance he will be, but heard Crows have some interest
Q: Who are the first 10 to be picked in the Draft ?
Ben Waterworth: I'll give you my top 10 power rankings (not assigned to clubs): Horne-Francis, Daicos, Darcy, Callaghan, Andrew, Ward, Hobbs, Rachele, Gibcus, Erasmus
https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-trade-news-rumours-whispers-2021-trade-blog-and-live-chat-deadline-day-deals-remaining-trades-latest-news-and-updates/news-story/3b85a19d829bbd8fceeaca201428dd5d
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Warming to Hobbs ..would still prefer Rachelle, Ward, NWM or Erasmus though and still think 7(9) is overs for a type of player we easily can get later - probably a couple, might be slightly below Hobbs level but good enough to win the ball & feed it out ...getting 9 (11) from the 'Aints would be ideal as we could probably snag both Hobbs and one of the aforementioned others.... :shh
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Based on who expected to go top 10 and who is being linked to which club in media reports, I'm guessing the top 10-11 is reported to go something like this:
1. North - Horne-Francis
2. Coll - Daicos (bid)
3. Dogs - Darcy (bid)
4. GWS - Andrew
5. GC - Callaghan
6. Adel - Rachele
7. Haw - Ward
8. Freo - Erasmus
9. Rich - Hobbs
10. Freo - Wanganeen-Milera
The Saints pick is next. So if we were able to snare it it would give us first selection of who is left plus another selection at pick 17 (our current 15).
This next bit is pure guesswork but has the likely names around in the 11-21 range.
11. StK - Gibcus
12. WCE - Amiss
13. Ess - Johnson
14. Syd - Chesser
15. GWS - Goater
16. Bris - Sonsie
17. Rich - Van Rooyen
18. Port - Roberts
19. Syd - Butler
20. Melb - Sinn
21. Freo - Draper
Our next picks would be at 28 & 30. Perhaps a Bazzo could still be available at that range although he may go between our 2nd and 3rd pick.
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I like it, another mid / forward as well who slips through would be the icing
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Real shame we didn't secure another top 20 pick.
I wanted Hobbs, Amiss and Chesser
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Real shame we didn't secure another top 20 pick.
I wanted Hobbs, Amiss and Chesser
We can still trade picks and try to trade up on draft night depending on how it's going. Clubs are now allowed to do live trading during the draft.
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Real shame we didn't secure another top 20 pick.
I wanted Hobbs, Amiss and Chesser
We can still trade picks and try to trade up on draft night depending on how it's going. Clubs are now allowed to do live trading during the draft.
Can trade picks right through to draft night as well
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Hobbs is a Tiger supporter.
THE STAR PLAYER TOP DRAFT PROSPECT WANTS TO EMULATE
By Alex Zaia
SEN
13 October 2021
Ben Hobbs has been touted as a potential top five pick in this year’s National Draft.
The Greater Western Victoria Rebels and Vic Country midfielder is a natural ball-winner and is viewed as one of the best prospects of the draft class of 2021.
Hobbs starred for Vic Country against Vic Metro earlier this year, collecting 25 touches, 11 tackles and seven clearances and was prolific for the Rebels in the NAB League, averaging 30 touches in five completed games.
Speaking on SEN Breakfast, Hobbs, a Richmond supporter growing up, wants to emulate Port Adelaide star Travis Boak, a player he admires greatly.
“I’ve watched him (Boak) a lot,” he said.
“I actually stayed next door to him, coincidentally. I wasn’t stalking him, but I was watching him a fair bit!
“Just the amount of little extras he did when no one was watching when I was watching really stood out to me.
“He’s definitely a player I want to play like, for sure.”
How many AFL clubs has the Horsham Demons young gun spoken to in the lead-up to November’s draft?
“Every club but one,” Hobbs replied.
“It’s been pretty good, and I’ve really enjoyed that process.”
https://www.sen.com.au/news/2021/10/13/the-star-player-top-draft-prospect-wants-to-emulate/
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Current picks and total draft points:
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https://twitter.com/BigFootyDraft/status/1448213708274954240
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If we don't trade 38 + 40 to Pies for 27 I'd be keen to use 38 on Schlensog and 40 on a guy like Freeman. Still 4x kid picks ahead of those 2 so plenty of opportunity to bring in young talent.
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If we don't trade 38 + 40 to Pies for 27 I'd be keen to use 38 on Schlensog and 40 on a guy like Freeman. Still 4x kid picks ahead of those 2 so plenty of opportunity to bring in young talent.
I don’t think freeman atleast would go that early if at the national draft at all. Freeman wasn’t even looked at in the mid season draft last season, doubt very much doubt teams will use a second rounder on him.
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If we don't trade 38 + 40 to Pies for 27 I'd be keen to use 38 on Schlensog and 40 on a guy like Freeman. Still 4x kid picks ahead of those 2 so plenty of opportunity to bring in young talent.
I don’t think freeman atleast would go that early if at the national draft at all. Freeman wasn’t even looked at in the mid season draft last season, doubt very much doubt teams will use a second rounder on him.
True and id happily use a crap pick on him but how many spots do we have? Hence I'd rather trade up
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Rookie draft might be his best chance
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Hardwick singled out Freeman as an example when talking in general about giving more blokes chances at playing in the AFL in a presser earlier this year so wouldn't be surprised if we gave him a shot... :shh
Reckon we should trade up to get three kids inside 20 , trade the rest into next year and get Schlensog, Freeman and/or Josh Green... :shh
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Hardwick singled out Freeman as an example when talking in general about giving more blokes chances at playing in the AFL in a presser earlier this year so wouldn't be surprised if we gave him a shot... :shh
Reckon we should trade up to get three kids inside 20 , trade the rest into next year and get Schlensog, Freeman and/or Josh Green... :shh
Yeah this is what I'm thinking too.
Get 38 + 40 to Pies for 27.
Draft with 7, 15, 26, 27, 28.
Pick up some Smokey's like Schlen and Free with some late/rookie picks. Those two are reportedly killing the Magoo's
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Hugh Stagg's another potential late pick/rookie I like the look/sound of...captain of Glenelg U'19... won the comp's B&F medal in a canter:
https://www.facebook.com/sanflofficial/videos/a-hugh-ge-game-of-30-disposals-and-3-goals-hugh-stagg-has-taken-out-the-round-8-/602243017402529/
:shh
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Kevin Sheehan's top medium forwards in the draft:
https://www.afl.com.au/news/684085/kevin-sheehan-reveals-his-top-nab-afl-draft-prospects-medium-forwards
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Mock draft from another of BF's draft watchers eDPS.
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https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/edps%E2%80%99s-cream-of-the-crop-2021.1260220/post-72621875
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Great mock draft would love to get Hobbs & Gibcus somehow
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Mac Andrew, must be like a beanpole, would take a few years to be up to it ??
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Mac Andrew, must be like a beanpole, would take a few years to be up to it ??
Was thinking the exact same thing. 70kg is light for a small forward. 70kg for a 200cm ruckman is just crazy to the point that I’m assuming it’s a mistake.
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Darcy not much better
I'm 186/113 and feel like I could steamroll these poor buggers haha
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Darcy not much better
I'm 186/113 and feel like I could steamroll these poor buggers haha
If you could catch them. lol
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Fingers crossed on Zac Taylor, I may be a little biased because I’ve seen this kid play allot but no matter who I’ve seen him play for, Oak Park, Calder or PEG’s he’s been a stand out.
Super silky skills, can play inside or out and is fast, one could say very similar to Bolton.
He’s a ready made HFF’er who will rotate through the midfield in years to come.
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Darcy not much better
I'm 186/113 and feel like I could steamroll these poor buggers haha
If you could catch them. lol
Maybe not but at least I'd make a better small forward than Jake Aarts.
My dad reckons he would too, despite being 72 and a similar size haha
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Fingers crossed on Zac Taylor, I may be a little biased because I’ve seen this kid play allot but no matter who I’ve seen him play for, Oak Park, Calder or PEG’s he’s been a stand out.
Super silky skills, can play inside or out and is fast, one could say very similar to Bolton.
He’s a ready made HFF’er who will rotate through the midfield in years to come.
I like Taylor as well. Hoping he is a tiger on draft night with one of our picks in the 20s. Im looking for 3 mids 1 key defender and a key developing forward. In a perfect world that looks like hobbs or ward (1) johnson (2) taylor (3) bazzo as key back and a key forward.
Im also a fan of darcy wilmott but we dont need another half back atm.
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AFL Draft Weekly Wrap: stoppage specialist Sheldrick a WA bolter
CHRIS DOERRE
ESPN
14 October 2021
Player focus
Earning best on ground honours for Western Australia in their 10-point win against South Australia in this year's final clash between the two sides, Angus Sheldrick is the prospect who has scouts talking.
Over the past two months, Sheldrick has built one of the most impressive resumes, also winning the head-to-head midfield matchup against pick one favourite Jason Horne-Francis in the first Under-19 Championships clash between WA and SA.
Horne-Francis was unable to impact the game through the midfield and was relegated to playing in the front half, in what was a surprise disruption to an otherwise near-flawless close to 2021.
In the WAFL Colts Grand Final, Sheldrick battled on manfully and was the dominant force through the middle, amassing 27 touches despite copping a bad corky in the second quarter and an unsportsmanlike knee to the ribs while down on all fours in the third quarter.
Given Sheldrick's recent eye-catching performances, his best on ground display at the weekend's final Under-19 Championships clash should surprise no one; he's a competitor who shows up every week and does what is asked of him.
In each of the Championships games, WA was clearly a level above through the midfield and the contribution of Sheldrick played a large part. An impressive stoppage midfielder, the 17-year-old is a strong-bodied stoppage specialist with a height and build akin to Lachie Neale.
At 179cm and 88kg, Sheldrick is strong over the ball and routinely wins first possession, works hard around the ground to receive loose ball gets, possesses an explosive burst of speed, shrugs tackles and tackles with intent, plays a strong two-way game and hits the scoreboard.
Impressively, during the WAFL Colts finals series, Sheldrick kicked six goals from three games, while kicking another two goals in his final match against SA, including the sealer.
Where Sheldrick will need to put work into his game is his kicking and decision making. He is effective feeding outside runners by hand but at this stage lacks polish and precision by foot. Whether he is under pressure or has time with ball in hand, at times he will attempt ill-advised kicks that lack situational awareness.
Gaining fans in recent months, Sheldrick is viewed as a likely mid-draft choice and would be a strong value selection for a club looking to give their midfield an immediate boost of competitiveness
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Rising draft stocks
Providing run with ball in hand, a marking target forward of centre, applying himself defensively, kicking two goals and setting up targets inside 50 with perfect kicks, Lochlan Paton came out of the blocks with a point to prove for Western Australia. Turning 18 in November, Paton enhanced his draft chances as one of his side's most influential players.
An intercept marking force, the little-spoken-about Max Litster was South Australia's best in defence. He positioned himself well, read the drop of the ball better than anyone else on the field and backed himself in the air, often leaping for and marking the ball strongly overhead.
South Australian rebounding defender Alastair Lord continued his strong vein of form. Possessing elite speed and agility, Lord is arguably this draft's most aggressive and damaging runner from defence with ball in hand. While his run is his primary weapon, Lord put on a masterclass with his ball use by foot. If a club can secure Lord late in the draft, they may have found themselves a draft bargain, with his rebounding capabilities the best in the pool.
Key performers Under-19s
Performing consistently through the Under-19 Championships, WA captain Finn Gorringe put on an intercepting clinic, commanding the skies and intercepting off the bounce. He was competitive one-on-one, aerially and stabilised his defensive teammates in each encounter.
Winning the ball through the midfield and breaking the game open at times with his run, Kade Dittmar was again one of WA's most influential ball-winners. He has been a consistent difference maker, and aside from Sheldrick, was the second strong-bodied midfielder who made life difficult for the South Australian midfielders.
https://www.espn.com.au/afl/story/_/id/32383445/afl-draft-2021-chris-doerre-knightmare-weekly-wrap-angus-sheldrick-announces-western-australia?platform=amp
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Sheldrick looks a likely sort, good size too
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Is Gorringe related to that spud ruckman that was delisted by Gold Coast & The Scumbaggers? :shh
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So as it stands how many senior spots available now to draft ?.
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Sheldrick looks a likely sort, good size too
Yeah getting raves because he shutdown Jason Judd-Martin but as someone noted elsewhere- Who remembers the kid from WA(?) who shutdown Cotchin in the Champs? :shh
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Sheldrick looks a likely sort, good size too
Yeah getting raves because he shutdown Jason Judd-Martin but as someone noted elsewhere- Who remembers the kid from WA(?) who shutdown Cotchin in the Champs? :shh
Fair call
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Geez we delist Garthwaite, Nyuon and Astbury retires. Miller has done nothing and i will say again has already gone from the list proper to a rookie.
The more i look at this area a player like Rhett Bazzo would be ideal
Then we look at the forwards and at the risk of repeating myself too much there is just Riewoldt at 33 and Lynch at 29.
Looking at a purely list balance type view i hope we go and get two talls and two mids with our top 30 picks.
For me the only question is in what order do we do it.
Id say all the players that should interest us will be about the place at each of our picks.
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No doubt the focus will be on talls for Pick 7.
We cant afford not to take one of JVR, Andrew, Gibcus, Bazzo, Williams at Pick 7, and hopefully get one of them at 15 as well.
The list will benefit from a couple of developing talls
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Geez we delist Garthwaite, Nyuon and Astbury retires. Miller has done nothing and i will say again has already gone from the list proper to a rookie.
The more i look at this area a player like Rhett Bazzo would be ideal
Then we look at the forwards and at the risk of repeating myself too much there is just Riewoldt at 33 and Lynch at 29.
Looking at a purely list balance type view i hope we go and get two talls and two mids with our top 30 picks.
For me the only question is in what order do we do it.
Id say all the players that should interest us will be about the place at each of our picks.
Miller was good in his debut. Your attacks on the young man are unfair and unnecessary. I agree on Bazzo.
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No doubt the focus will be on talls for Pick 7.
We cant afford not to take one of JVR, Andrew, Gibcus, Bazzo, Williams at Pick 7, and hopefully get one of them at 15 as well.
The list will benefit from a couple of developing talls
Id like 3 midfielders and 1 key position. I think we will miss on JvR but can get Bazzo. We can take another tall next year but we need to make sure we get 3 decent players out of this draft and mids are the safe option.
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The general consensus seems to be that KPP wise it's a draft full of Thorpes & Polaks not Jacks & Buddys... :shh
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Richmond goes into the draft with its best suite of picks in a couple of decades, and is ready to capitalise on that, as Tigers General Manager of Football Talent Blair Hartley explained . . .
“We are in a position where we want to replenish while we can contend . . . where we can get the best available talent,” Hartley said.
“We have some flexibility (to repackage picks) . . . to bundle them up or pick them where they are.
“We made the decision to trade into this draft.
“At the end of last year, we traded our first-round pick to take Geelong’s first round (in 2021), to give us those two picks in the first round.
“We are excited with who we might get . . .”
https://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/1025851/tigers-set-to-maximise-strong-draft-hand
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Geez we delist Garthwaite, Nyuon and Astbury retires. Miller has done nothing and i will say again has already gone from the list proper to a rookie.
The more i look at this area a player like Rhett Bazzo would be ideal
Then we look at the forwards and at the risk of repeating myself too much there is just Riewoldt at 33 and Lynch at 29.
Looking at a purely list balance type view i hope we go and get two talls and two mids with our top 30 picks.
For me the only question is in what order do we do it.
Id say all the players that should interest us will be about the place at each of our picks.
Come on clawki.
Garth was C grade. A few serviceable games is all he has to show for what, 4 years on the list? He is no loss.
Biggie to be re-listed. Not loss.
Astbury was cooked AF. No loss.
Miller I think should have played at least 6-8 games this year and it's an indictment on the club that he didn't, but he looked solid in his debut and is still on the list so who knows maybe he'll make it. Hard to bust into a backline of Rance, Grimes, Broad, Astbury. Balta clearly had a more mature body at a younger age and is probably a better player in all ways.
Chol was C grade IMO.
CCJ despite the hype I dunno, still wasn't sold but he showed some promise I guess.
Tarrant in. Draft a kid. Pick up Schlensog. Soldo back. Suddenly we are fine.
Rucks. Nank, Soldo, Ryan, Collina. Could probably do with another for depth but Balta can ruck if worse comes to worse.
KPD. Grimes, Tarrant, Broad, Miller, Biggie, Balta.
KPF. Problem here. Jack, Lynch....could we try Balta if Tarrant and Miller work out?
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Agree with most of that Andy. My guess is that we’ll target trade or free agency to replace Jack in 2023 and I reckon we’ll take the same approach to replace Tarrant in season 2024.
Get the mids in this draft to replace Cotch, Dusty (who goes forward more and more from 2023) and Meatie.
Hopefully one of RCD, Ross, Martyn, Dow or Ralphsmith can start to emerge from 2022/2023.
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For me this draft we fix midfield and get 1 key position.
Ward or Hobbs, Johnson, Taylor in the draft as mids, Bazzo as the next key defender to develop to replace tarrant.
Draft 3 junior players next year and target 1 or 2 free agents as cotchin, riewoldt retire. If we get our next 2 drafts right we are set for the next decade with bringing in free agents.
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Tend to agree, I would like Jvr and Bazzo if available with the rest including our first as best available midfielder
Hoping and praying for this draft will get us some 100plus gamers
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Tend to agree, I would like Jvr and Bazzo if available with the rest including our first as best available midfielder
Hoping and praying for this draft will get us some 100plus gamers
I am interested in any Vic key position players which might be available and are currently under the radar. We have been exposed to the WA and SA kids only and all the talk is about JVR and Bazzo. Don't get me wrong, these boys look good however I think there will be others selected who are not yet talked about. I would take Aleer before any of these guys.
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Agree HRT. Thought Dow showed a bit in late '21. Hair cut helps.
Ross has to make or break in '22. Club should stop stuffing around. Put some weight on him and leave him inside.
I am worried that RCD still doesn't seem to have the running ability he needs to stay in games after 3 years. I wonder if he'd be better off as a medium forward. Good kick for goal.
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HeraldSun's Jay Clark's top 10 mock draft:
Early call: Is this how the draft will play out?
Next month’s national draft is fast approaching. Which kids are lighting up talent boards and who is your club looking at? Jay Clark makes an early top ten prediction.
Jay Clark
HeraldSun
18 October 2021
The 2021 AFL national draft is fast approaching.
As clubs finalise their talent boards many are also working the phones, with trades still permitted that could shake up the order.
Who is your club looking at?
Jay Clark looks at how the cards may fall.
1. North Melbourne: Jason Horne-Francis - South Adelaide
184cm midfielder-forward
The player: The buzz around Jason Horne-Francis has gone through the roof over the past fortnight after North Melbourne knocked back a truckload of top picks from Adelaide and Richmond for rights to the goal kicking playmaker. Likened to Sydney Swans’ Isaac Heeney, the exciting blonde turned on a blinder in the SANFL preliminary final snagging three goals from 24 disposals and 11 clearances. Recruiters already knew he was the top talent, but this was an astonishing performance on the eve of the draft that will surely see the competitive midfield-forward make an immediate impact for the Kangas next season. Wins his own footy in the air and on ground level and is polished and impactful with his ball use. Will put bums on seats.
The pick: Adelaide offered three first-round selections for the Roos’ No. 1 pick and will keep knocking on that door for as long as the South Australian Horne-Francis is wearing football boots. Watch North Melbourne attempt to lock in Horne-Francis with a very early contract extension.
2. Collingwood: Nick Daicos (Father-son bid) - Oakleigh Chargers
183cm midfielder
The player: Nick Daicos would have played a considerable number of games for the Magpies this year if he was already on their senior list. The big-time ballwinner zips through congestion and has regularly shown he has elite vision in tight spaces, finding tough targets by hand and foot. Played some exceptional football in the NAB League this year and could have a Sam-Walsh style impact in his first few seasons, according to the talent gurus. Son of Collingwood great Peter Daicos and the younger brother of Josh. Averaged 36 touches and two goals a game in the NAB League. Will be the face of the Collingwood list rebuild.
The pick: This hurts. Collingwood originally had this pick but traded it to GWS last year, meaning the Magpies could have taken Daicos plus another top-three talent if they held it. Ouch. Instead, GWS or any club the Giants trade this pick to will surely bid on Daicos here, making the Pies pay full tote odds for one player.
3. Western Bulldogs: Sam Darcy (Father-son bid) - Oakleigh Chargers
204cm key forward-ruck
The player: The Bulldogs are truly blessed to have access to this skillful and versatile big man, adding to the incredible riches already down the club’s spine. Darcy has excelled playing at centre half forward, kicking six goals in a Vic Metro trial game, and in defence where he set tongues wagging with his aerial work and rebounding earlier in the year. There hasn’t been as much hype around Darcy as there is around Horne-Francis and Daicos, but as one top scout said, the big man is equally special. Can kick on both sides of his body and is smooth around the ground.
The pick: The Dogs are certain to match a bid for Darcy at this spot and will have a wealth of talented tall options over the next decade, if they can all be kept at the club, with Jamarra Ugle-Hagan, Aaron Naughton, Tim English and Darcy. Son of Bulldogs’ great and club director Luke Darcy.
4. GWS: Finn Callaghan - Sandringham Dragons
189cm midfielder
The player: This left-footed wingman has significant upside and has risen up recruiters’ draft boards all season long. The speedster is damaging on the outside in a way that has drawn comparisons to Hugh McCluggage, but it is his size, creativeness, and potential growth as a tall inside midfielder that has clubs wondering whether he can blossom like Marcus Bontempelli. That is why a club can hit the jackpot with this pick. Callaghan takes on the opposition with his weaving run and carry and is a nice marking option at his height. Has lots of tricks by hand and is a penetrating kick.
The pick: This is where the big moves can start. GWS owns this pick and would happily take Callaghan, but the reality is the club already has loads of gun midfield talent and would prefer a tall such as Mac Andrew or Josh Gibcus. That is why the Giants are considering trading several spots down the order if they can get something else in a deal, such as an early future pick. A swap with Hawthorn makes sense as it would give the Hawks a blue-chip midfielder such as Callaghan (which they need) and allows the Giants to nab a big man. But Richmond, Gold Coast and Adelaide are all in the same conversation.
5. Gold Coast: Josh Gibcus - Greater Western Victoria Rebels
195cm key defender
The player: Springy defender is an intercept marking specialist. Gibcus has a canny knack of floating in from the side and reaching above the rest of the pack as he reels in his grabs. He was impressive in a recent series of club interviews and is a top-six lock for some recruiters. Like Alex Rance, Gibcus is handy linking up on the rebound and will look to develop that side of his game. Given the emphasis on scoring on the turnover in the modern game, Gibcus’s marking power makes him a stand-out prospect.
The pick: Gold Coast is loaded with midfielders and has been found wanting in the key position department, especially in the back end. Gibcus would help form an excellent twin tower combination with Ben King at the opposite end as part of sound long-term play. Suns could try to shuffle this pick up or down the order depending on where the Suns think Gibcus will be taken, if the club is prepared to be patient with him. Stuart Dew may prefer a midfielder such as Ben Hobbs to get the instant impact.
6. Adelaide: Ben Hobbs - Greater Victorian Western Rebels
183cm midfielder
The player: Already been dubbed a future-captain in the making, Hobbs is certain to thrive at AFL level as a hard-as-nails inside midfielder. The strong-bodied onballer stepped up impressively this season after an early ankle injury and will be a safe bet at the pointy end of the draft. The competitive beast won admirers for his excellent contested ball work, all-round defensive application and team-first attitude. Vic Country captain shines in the clinches and will be a key pillar in an AFL onball unit in a similar manner to Collingwood’s Taylor Adams.
The pick: Adelaide has been strongly linked to Josh Rachele as an exciting and creative small forward and could yet trade up or down the order. But it would be hard to pass up Hobbs here as a long-term Rory Sloane replacement.
7. Hawthorn: Josh Ward - Northern Knights
181cm midfielder
The player: Reliable onballer has earned comparisons to Essendon star Zach Merrett for his polish and work rate in the middle. Might not be as flashy as others but Ward is a consistent performer who is clean around the stoppages and hits targets. Was named captain of the NAB league team of the year averaging 25 disposals a game. May not have the size as some of the other top draft prospects but he uses his huge tank and determination to work hard to get to the next contest. Scouts say coaches will love knowing that they can count on him on game day. Averaged 30 disposals and six clearances a game in the NAB League. He would be right up Sam Mitchell’s alley.
The pick: This would be a dream get for the Hawks at this pick as Ward could become the face of the next generation Hawthorn midfield alongside Will Day. Sam Mitchell would rate Ward’s foot skills, work ethic and ability to connect through the middle of the ground. His great grandfather, Alex Lee, played 31 games for the Hawks between 1933-35.
8. Fremantle: Jye Amiss - East Perth
195cm key forward
The player: The smart key forward is a snug fit for the Dockers as they can lock-in a local talent to become a spearhead for the next decade. Amiss has impressed in the WAFL Colts bagging 53 goals and is the best key forward prospect in the country. He has a strong-lead up game and works hard to kick goals in different ways, either second-chance opportunities at ground level, pressuring the opposition or linking up. Even better, he is an accurate kick for goal from set shot and general play. Has nice hands.
The pick: The Dockers need another developing key forward and it will be hard to pass up on the local star goal kicker. Richmond has the next pick and could also snap him up after losing Mabior Chol and Callum Coleman-Jones, so if the Dockers really want they may have to pounce here.
9. Richmond: Josh Rachele - Murray Bushrangers
180cm forward-midfielder
The player: Rachele this low in the top-10 would be an excellent pickup for the Tigers if he is still available. The crafty goal kicker has an exciting mix of speed and talent in the forward half and could develop into an absolute match winner at AFL level as his fitness builds. He can blow past defenders, create play out of nowhere and hit the scoreboard and there is significant upside in his midfield prospects. Lethal in the air and at ground level, and will be a fan favourite.
The pick: The Tigers would be keen to get their hands on Hobbs as a Trent Cotchin replacement, but there is a lot to like about Rachele if he slides this far. Easy to see the Tigers snapping him up given the way they have used small forwards like him in the past. And could impact early.
10. Fremantle: Mac Andrew - Dandenong Stingrays
200cm ruck-key forward
The player: One of the buzz players of this year’s draft has continued to rocket up draft orders across the season. At 200cm the exciting ruck-forward has Nic Naitanui-like qualities the way he can reach above those around him to either mark the ball or tap down to his teammates. And in-play he has a capacity to have a big impact with his tackling and follow-up and ground level. The spring-heeled Andrew is also developing his game in the forward half and according to the talent gurus can be anything in a few years.
The pick: Is this Fremantle’s Nic Natanui moment? Fremantle has two choices inside the top-10 which gives them flexibility to take the key forward they need (Amiss) and if not a midfield replacement for Adam Cerra, then the super athletic Andrew. Greater Western Sydney could take him as high as pick two, they rate Andrew so highly. He is tied to Melbourne’s next generation academy but there is no chance he slides past pick 20 which is what needs to happen to land at the Demons. Tall midfielder Neil Erasmus also in the mix.
https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/afl-draft-2021-jay-clark-looks-at-how-the-cards-may-fall-in-next-months-afl-national-draft/news-story/a348a3c9e3e0b0a0f4874108d1c7f354
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From another of BF's draft watchers Smythe:
RCD has the best centre clearance of the afl rising stars this year, so that is a good start. Hes is right up there in a lot of those stats so, he, as a future midfielder is a good start. His burst from a pack with the ball and spread from the pack without it is fantastic and quick.
Dow is more of your at pace get through traffic style of midfielder who does lots right but needs bulk and more game time.
Martyn can get a lot of the ball and the future could be good for him once he learns to tackle more and had a really good vfl season this year.
NONE of them are inside grunt ball winners, they are the team that gets around that guy to take the ball forward or tackle hard if we dont win the contest, RCD is the closest and will get a lot more inside ball sooner rather than later.
Jack Graham is your inside leader and gut running tackle machine.
Jack Ross is a solid footballer who will never get to great heights as he is not athletically gifted as the others but he too, is learning the role of the aforementioned Jack Graham except he will be the gut running tackle machine solid half backline player that will go into the middle whilst others rest.
Chesser although not much football played over two years has speed and athletic traits that Ross and Graham dont. He can go on the inside with grunt and dispose with finesse. Has mostly been a def/wing and has poise and control when with the ball, a thumping boot and is a productive player and good two way runner.
Hobbs is an inside beast. Not the quickest but one of the smartest inside mids with his positioning and attack on the ball after reading the play but also has Joel Selwood kamikaze style attacks too which is not a bad thing for a ball/clearance winning mid to have.
Van Rooyen has, as a forward, a Nick Reiwoldt style of play to him, running way up to the wing sometimes on a lead or to help win the ball then turn and he will beat his opponents back to the fwd line. Has also played down back and shown he can read the play well and intercept but his 1 v 1 work is a fair way off from AFL level. He is a good kick and good below his knees.
Gibcus is a good defender and very good interceptor at the under age level but with not much footy in 2 years and no champs against some of the best of his age i dont see why i would take such a risk with a high pick, if he was available at 17 i understand. Remember Fischer McAsey??
I would take neither at Richmonds first pick, but if Gibcus was there at 17 then yes, that is value, but he wont be available as he has his fanciers. I think it will be a close call as to whether JVR is there at 17 and if he is maybe he is a chance.
ALSO remember with all these kids, the club recruiters are the only ones who know about the kids who will have homesickness or will be no good attitude and maturity wise if they leave home for a team far away. Some of them are just messed in the head as well (anyone remember Tom Lamb) and we (stuck at home for most part of 2 years) wouldnt know. So some kids will go higher than other and some will drop a lot and we here on this sight all get surprised by it. but it happens every year, so it will, again happen this year.
https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/smythes-2021-draft-thread.1252879/post-72652389
If Amiss is available at 9, take him. Best KPF in the draft (Darcy is a ruck/fwd) and a need for Richmond to have a young one to develop after losing CCJ.
The Tigers are keen on a few early prospects and are hoping 1 falls to them, they like Hobbs, Callaghan, Ward, Rachele, Amiss and Gibcus. With Horne-Francis, Darcy, Daicos, Callaghan and Andrew most likely gone, 3 of the former will be available.
Pick 9 - Ward has more speed, agility and is more athletically gifted than Hobbs with a predicted higher ceiling however Hobbs is similar to a young ollie wines and that is a need for Richmond, inside bull. My guess is they take best available that fits a need and that would be Hobbs. Ward is a similar style of player to a few of the young Richmond mids so having someone a little different that fits the need for and inside bull to compliment the others would be a good fit.
Pick 17 - Chesser. Sinn needs to work on his inside game more and out of the two Chesser's disposal is much better. I would not be picking Roberts in the first round at all, and Johnson most likely will not be there at 17 but even if he is i would rather chesser.....HOWEVER, if Wanganeen-Milera is available at that point i wouldn't hesitate to grab him.
https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/smythes-2021-draft-thread.1252879/post-72658222
Richmond do not need to pick Schlensog as anyone can sign him during the DFA for free, i cant see anyone wasting a national draft pick on him. Richmond have spoken to him that is no secret, but i think there was something they didn't like otherwise they would have already signed him up.....or.....they might be (along with a few teams, geel, frem, wce, wb, haw etc.) waiting for a list lodgement after draft to see where the list sits and who they picked in the draft, and see if they have a spot for a young developing backman.
I personally think he [Schlensog] will not be at Richmond. Ben Miller is a very similar type and style of player however Miller is better 1v1 than Schlensog and in return Schlensog is a better interceptor. Richmond like Miller’s growth so will stick with him.
If it were my choice, I would draft for other areas and then sign Schlensog up as long as he takes a rookie contract and earns a spot like others have done. The Matt Parker influence may help too Coming from the same club.
https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/smythes-2021-draft-thread.1252879/post-72665070
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I'm warming to Rachelle, not sure why just seems like a good mover from the 2 min clip that makes me an expert.
Dont want Mac Andrew.
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I'm warming to Rachelle, not sure why just seems like a good mover from the 2 min clip that makes me an expert.
Dont want Mac Andrew.
Yep I'm on board the Rachelle train...... all the way from Milan to Minsk.... :shh
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Rachelle looks like a pick 15 to 19 pick to me but at 15 I still prefer others.
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Rachelle looks like a pick 15 to 19 pick to me but at 15 I still prefer others.
Reminds me of a young Nathan Brown except a right footer.
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I'm warming to Rachelle, not sure why just seems like a good mover from the 2 min clip that makes me an expert.
Dont want Mac Andrew.
Yep I'm on board the Rachelle train...... all the way from Milan to Minsk.... :shh
A young girls erotic journey…. Love it
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While pick swap deals and signings of delisted free agents could still change the draft hands and available picks for clubs, the Cats, Hawks, Roos, Tigers and Saints could all use up to five picks at the draft.
Estimations at this stage will see a minimum of 56 and a maximum of 67 picks this year, although clubs will take fluid plans with the ability to trade picks, match bids on Academy and father-son picks and hold over spots dependant on how the draft plays out.
https://www.afl.com.au/news/685163/how-many-picks-will-your-club-use-in-the-2021-nab-afl-draft
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https://www.facebook.com/aflinfolive/posts/4622397824514867
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The HeraldSun's Mock Draft today had Richmond doing a live trade for Adelaide's first pick (Pick 6 after bids).
Richmond gives up 9 & 17 for 6 & 35 (plus a swap of future 2nd rounders) and then selects Ben Hobbs at Pick 6.
https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/draft/afl-mock-draft-2021-how-the-top-30-picks-could-fall/news-story/25d894d25f9ff64cdc2aea3cfdf71a42
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Here's the full Mock Draft (Top 30).
1. NM - Jason Horne-Francis
2. Coll - Nick Daicos (Matched Bid)
3. WB - Sam Darcy (Matched Bid)
4. GWS - Finn Callaghan
5. GCS - Josh Gibcus
6. RICH - Ben Hobbs (Live Trade - Adelaide trades pick 6 and 33 to Richmond for picks 9 and 17, plus a swap of future second-round selections.)
7. HAW - Josh Ward
8. FRE - Jye Amiss
9. ADE - Josh Sinn
10. FRE - Wanganeen-Milera
11. STK - Matthew Johnson
12. WC - Neil Erasmus
13. ESS - Josh Rachele
14. PA - Matthew Roberts
15. GWS - Mac Andrew
16. BL - Arlo Draper
17. ADE - Josh Goater
18. SYD - Tyler Sonsie
19. MEL - Campbell Chesser
20. BL - Darcy Wilmot
21. FRE - Jacob Van Rooyen
22. NM - Leek Alleer
23. HAW - Zac Taylor
24. GEE - Tom Brown
25. HAW - Sam Butler
26. CAR - Jesse Motlop
27. RICH - Jack Williams
28. RICH - Angus Sheldrick
29. STK - Marcus Windhager <----- this should be our pick too (we traded for St Kilda's 2nd rounder last year).
30. WC - Blake Howes
https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/draft/afl-mock-draft-2021-how-the-top-30-picks-could-fall/news-story/25d894d25f9ff64cdc2aea3cfdf71a42
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Flat out do not want to trade P17 away unless it's damned worth our while.
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Boy if we walk away with Ward and Eramus we would be happy little campers
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No thanks, Hobbs is not worth 2 first round picks
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Ridiculous trade
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Thumbs down
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Don't want to see 7 or 15 traded unless its for Callaghan.
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FMD still a month to go..... :help
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FMD still a month to go..... :help
No thanks.
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AFL Phantom Draft 2021: Round 1 begins to take shape
Jasper Chellappah
innersanctum.com.au
15/10/2021
The Inner Sanctum’s 2021 AFL Phantom Draft for October
1. North - Jason Horne Francis
2. Coll - Nick Daicos (matched bid)
3. WB - Sam Darcy (matched bid)
4. GWS - Mac Andrew
5. GC - Josh Gibcus
6. Adel - Finn Callaghan
7. Haw - Josh Ward
8. Freo - Neil Erasmus
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16/09/2003 | 183cm | 80kg | Inside Midfielder
NAB League: 6 games | 25.0 disp | 5.0 tackles
Coming back from an ankle injury and dominating, Hobbs has suitors well within the top 10 of the draft. He’s a contested beast, able to rip the ball out of stoppages to feed outside runners, or get the ball to boot and follow up with a good work rate. He’s also grown into a leader of the Rebels and Country, and could be the best like-for-like replacement of skipper Trent Cotchin in the draft.
Around the mark: Jye Amiss, Josh Ward
10. Freo - Jye Amiss
11. St K - Josh Rachele
12. WCE - Matthew Johnson
13. Ess - Nasiah Wanganeen-Milera
14. Port - Arlo Draper
15. GWS - Tyler Sonsie
16. Bris - Josh Sinn
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16/04/2003 | 195cm | 88kg | Key Defender/Forward
WAFL Colts: 8 games | 14.4 disp | 3.8 goals
Playing up forward at club level and in defence for his state, van Rooyen is a genuine swingman that can impact at both ends of the ground. His most eye-catching qualities were on display against South Australia where-in he attacked the ball like a forward to chop attacking forays off and get the ball moving the other way quickly. The Tigers have a need for tall depth at both ends of the ground and van Rooyen can be moulded into a high-echelon swingman at the next level.
Around the mark: Josh Sinn, Darcy Wilmot
18. Syd - Josh Goater
19. Melb - Matthew Roberts
20. Bris - Mitch Knevitt
https://www.theinnersanctum.com.au/afl-phantom-draft/
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It's going to be a long month until draft night.
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Laughable still a month away.
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I like the sound of Hobbs.
We need an extractor who tackles. 25 touches and 5 tackles a game is good numbers.
And if we get one of Amiss or JVR then I'll be thrilled.
If another tall like Bazzo is available with our 2nd round picks that's a bonus.
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Callaghan sounds very outside:
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..certainly wouldn't burn picks trying to move up the draft just to get him going by that assessment... :shh
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I would go to the draft with what picks we have unless it’s too good not to trade.
It’s fairly even this after the first 2 to pick 30 I believe
I would be happy with Most players in the top 30 but Hobbs and JVR would be my first choice.
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AFL Media’s Cal Twomey and Riley Beveridge touch on a number of players whose names were sent in by listeners.
They also predicted the draft activity of a handful of clubs.
https://www.sen.com.au/news/2021/10/21/a-snapshot-look-at-the-2021-afl-draft/
Ward expected to go to Hawthorn at their pick 5 (pick 7 after bids).
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Seven clubs are set to load up at the AFL draft. These young stars can fix their big issues
Ben Waterworth
Fox Sports
October 21st, 2021
RICHMOND
Draft picks (as of October 21): 7, 15, 26, 27, 28
The list needs they must address:
Lots of picks to fill a few chasms. The most pressing is probably in the midfield, with the Tigers ranking 16th for contested possession differential and 18th for clearance differential in 2021. When you consider Shane Edwards, Trent Cotchin, Dustin Martin and Kane Lambert will all be over 30 by Round 1 next season, on-ball stocks is clearly something that requires addressing. And even though they acquired Robbie Tarrant from the Roos, the Tigers lack some key defensive depth after losing David Astbury and Bachar Houli to retirement and delisting Ryan Garthwaite. The Tigers conceded a score from 44 per cent of their opposition’s entries this year – ranked 13th in the league.
The ideal draft prospects:
If they want an on-baller early, gun inside midfielder Ben Hobbs, who averaged 29.2 disposals and 6.2 clearances from his five full NAB League games this year, would be an ideal pick-up but mightn’t last that long on the open draft board. Knights on-baller Josh Ward could be a chance to slip through to the Tigers’ first pick, while Subiaco’s Neil Erasmus would likely be available. Pick 15 is where the likes of Eastern Ranges’ Tyler Sonsie, Subiaco’s Matthew Johnson, Calder’s Josh Goater and South Adelaide duo Arlo Draper and Matthew Roberts would be in the mix. The Tigers then have three consecutive second-round picks to fill their list. Midfielders like Calder’s Zac Taylor, Falcon Mitchell Knevitt and Sandringham’s Blake Howes would be in the mix, while Swan Districts’ Rhett Bazzo or Central District’s Leek Alleer would be key defender options. Running half-backs to fill the Houli hole that might slip through include Sandringham Dragons’ Campbell Chesser, Northern Knights’ Darcy Wilmot and Murray Bushrangers’ Tom Brown.
https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/draft/afl-draft-2021-picks-date-prospects-who-hawthorn-will-take-north-melbourne-essendon-fremantle-richmond-geelong/news-story/f9c4ae36113b433ca1b9868a29cfa848
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Here's the full Mock Draft (Top 30).
1. NM - Jason Horne-Francis
2. Coll - Nick Daicos (Matched Bid)
3. WB - Sam Darcy (Matched Bid)
4. GWS - Finn Callaghan
5. GCS - Josh Gibcus
6. RICH - Ben Hobbs (Live Trade - Adelaide trades pick 6 and 33 to Richmond for picks 9 and 17, plus a swap of future second-round selections.)
7. HAW - Josh Ward
8. FRE - Jye Amiss
9. ADE - Josh Sinn
10. FRE - Wanganeen-Milera
11. STK - Matthew Johnson
12. WC - Neil Erasmus
13. ESS - Josh Rachele
14. PA - Matthew Roberts
15. GWS - Mac Andrew
16. BL - Arlo Draper
17. ADE - Josh Goater
18. SYD - Tyler Sonsie
19. MEL - Campbell Chesser
20. BL - Darcy Wilmot
21. FRE - Jacob Van Rooyen
22. NM - Leek Alleer
23. HAW - Zac Taylor
24. GEE - Tom Brown
25. HAW - Sam Butler
26. CAR - Jesse Motlop
27. RICH - Jack Williams
28. RICH - Angus Sheldrick
29. STK - Marcus Windhager <----- this should be our pick too (we traded for St Kilda's 2nd rounder last year).
30. WC RICH - Blake Howes
https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/draft/afl-mock-draft-2021-how-the-top-30-picks-could-fall/news-story/25d894d25f9ff64cdc2aea3cfdf71a42
It's been corrected. Howes at #30 is our pick.
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Like Williams at 27 but would be a most disappointing draft night otherwise....(https://metalneverbends.forumotion.com/users/3115/50/25/04/smiles/2852770666.gif) if the Bumblers get Rachelle.... >:(
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Neil Erasmus highlights:
Watch here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jmCwIUzYCwg
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Like Williams at 27 but would be a most disappointing draft night otherwise....(https://metalneverbends.forumotion.com/users/3115/50/25/04/smiles/2852770666.gif) if the Bumblers get Rachelle.... >:(
If we come away from this draft with only 1 first round pick I will spew. Started with 2 and should have secured a 3rd IMO.
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We shouldnt trade up. Just keep our picks and take best player possible at our picks. We will probably get Hobbs anyway with our first pick.
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Chris Doerre (aka Knightmare) in his mock draft has us getting Ward, Butler, Taylor, Bazzo and Judson Clarke with our five top 30 picks.
ESPN's early two-round AFL phantom draft
Chris Doerre
ESPN
22 October 2021
Throughout 2021, ESPN.com.au AFL draft expert Chris Doerre has cast his eye over the country's best junior footballers to give readers an early insight into the next generation of AFL stars.
While attending live games has yet again been a challenge in a COVID-affected year, Doerre has pored through match vision from this and last year, analysed the stats and talked to industry sources to ensure he can offer the most insightful draft analysis.
1. North Melbourne - Jason Horne-Francis
2. Collingwood - Nick Daicos (Collingwood father-son) - bid matched
3. Western Bulldogs - Sam Darcy (Western Bulldogs father-son) - bid matched
4. GWS - Josh Gibcus
5. Gold Coast - Mac Andrew
6. Adelaide - Josh Rachele
7. Hawthorn - Finn Callaghan
8. Fremantle - Neil Erasmus
9. Richmond - Josh Ward
Height, Weight: 181cm, 79kg
Profile: A low risk, ready-to-go midfielder who is one of the very best and most complete midfielders in this draft with his combination of contested ball winning, sound skills, agility and endurance. His production and impact during the latter part of the NAB League campaign was comparable to the play of Nick Daicos.
10. Fremantle - Jye Amiss
11. St Kilda - Ben Hobbs
12. West Coast - Matthew Johnson
13. Essendon - Nasiah Wanganeen-Milera
14. Port Adelaide - Mitch Knevitt
15. GWS - Josh Sinn
16. Brisbane - Josh Goater
17. Richmond - Sam Butler
Height, Weight: 184cm, 73kg
Profile: The younger brother of St Kilda's Dan Butler, Sam plays both through the midfield and up forward. As with Dan, Sam is also a very quick, creative and one touch player who heaps on the pressure defensively, though the difference between the brothers at the same age aside from Sam playing more through the midfield is that Sam's ball winning capabilities are stronger.
18. Sydney - Jacob Van Rooyen
19. Melbourne - Mitch Owens (St Kilda Next-Generation Academy)
20. Brisbane - Darcy Wilmot
21. Fremantle - Tom Brown
22. GWS - Josh Fahey (Greater Western Sydney - Academy) - bid matched
23. North Melbourne - Arlo Draper
24. Hawthorn - Tyler Sonsie
25. Geelong - Toby Conway
26. Hawthorn - Blake Howes
27. Carlton - Matthew Roberts
28. Richmond - Zac Taylor
Height, Weight: 180cm, 74kg
Profile: With one of the strongest closes to the NAB League season, Taylor showed he's one of the most productive and complete midfielders in this draft. Ending his NAB League campaign with 37 disposals, 22 contested possessions and 11 clearances in a 10-point win against Murray, Taylor is a precise and damaging kick, speedy and evasive with ball in hand and has a great inside/outside balance to his game.
29. Richmond - Rhett Bazzo
Height, Weight: 195cm, 81kg
Profile: When he gets his confidence up, Bazzo is one of the best in this draft flying for intercept marks and chopping off opposition kicks at will. When asked to play a more defensively oriented role he is also capable of restricting the impact of his opponents.
30. Richmond - Judson Clarke
Height, Weight: 179cm, 69kg
Profile: A speedy forward, Clarke is one of this draft's best crumbers with his speed, agility, and kicking both to targets inside 50 and finishing around goal his greatest strengths. With the way he can take on the game and how damaging he is by foot, he's also viable for consideration as a rebounding defender.
31. West Coast - Campbell Chesser
32. Geelong - Leek Alleer
33. Sydney - Jesse Motlop (Fremantle Next-Generation Academy)
34. Geelong - Angus Sheldrick
35. Adelaide - Cooper Murley
36. Geelong - Alastair Lord
37. West Coast - Sam Banks
38. Melbourne - Jack Williams
https://www.espn.com.au/afl/story/_/id/32443096/afl-2021-draft-phantom-draft-chris-doerre-espn-early-two-round-phantom-draft
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That's a much better haul IMO. I like the sound of Hobbs more than Ward but otherwise very solid picks. Hope it turns out that way.
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Prefer Ward to Hobbs...would be a good result to get him at 9 though don't like that both pure mids taken in that scenario are only around the 180cm mark...like Butler but not that early especially if Van Rooyen & Sonsie are still on the board.. and Clarke before Williams, Chesser or Alleer would be rather underwhelming to say the least and wouldn't make much sense after already getting Butler... :-\
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I agree, swap for Jvr and Chesser and we have killed it
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AFL Draft Whispers: Rival clubs eyeing big trade plays as interest in young gun mid grows
A bidding war at the top of this year’s AFL draft order looms, with multiple clubs vying to get their hands on a prized pick so they can snap up a gun midfielder that’s drawn comparisons to Bulldogs superstar Marcus Bontempelli.
Foxfooty.com.au understands a handful of clubs with top picks are mightily interested in Sandringham Dragons on-baller Finn Callaghan, who now appears central to how the early stage of November’s national draft will pan out.
Rival clubs believe the Giants would be open to trading Pick 2 and prepared to strike a deal with a team that presents the best offer, but only if it meant the Giants could still secure their preferred prospect. It’s understood the Giants are seeking a key-position player – rather than a midfielder – at their first draft selection, with Dandenong Stingrays star Mac Andrew widely viewed as their top priority.
Foxfooty.com.au understands both the Suns and Crows have already made inquiries about trading up to Pick 2.
Whether any selection exchanges involving the second pick would be officially lodged prior to November 15 – the pre-draft cut-off date for pick swaps – or on draft night itself when trading reopens remains unclear.
Should Gold Coast wish to move up a spot in the draft order, it could have to dip into its stacked future-pick bag, which includes a future first, three future seconds and two future thirds. Hawthorn (Picks 5, 21 and 24) and Adelaide (Picks 4 and 33) hold selections in the first and second round of both the 2021 and 2022 drafts.
Yet the Dockers appear better placed than any club to trade with the Giants as they’re one of four clubs that hold two first-round picks. And unlike the Giants (Picks 2 and 13), Richmond (7 and 15) and Brisbane (14 and 18), Fremantle’s two early selections (6 and 8) sit inside the top 10.
Richmond, which holds Pick 7, has interest in GWV Rebels insider midfielder Ben Hobbs, who’s been touted as a possible on-ball replacement for Trent Cotchin when he retires. But the Tigers could also consider versatile utility Andrew, particularly after losing Callum Coleman-Jones (North Melbourne) and Mabior Chol (Gold Coast) during the trade period.
https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/draft/afl-draft-2021-finn-callaghan-attracts-interest-from-multiple-clubs-gws-giants-trade-picks-fremantle-hawthorn/news-story/369e2fcd82ae80033f92f41910593fde
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Q: Could Ben Hobbs slide?
Twomey: Inside top 10. Ball magnet. Ready to go mid. Leadership is top end. Suns, Adel, Haw & Rich would be interested. Can't see him sliding unless you consider pick 7 a slide. Richmond are there and keen on him.
https://www.afl.com.au/video/685408/could-this-ball-magnet-slide-all-your-draft-questions-answered
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HUN reporting thar a "top draft prospect" has been diagnosed with covid but hasn't named the player so far..... :shh
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HUN reporting thar a "top draft prospect" has been diagnosed with covid but hasn't named the player so far..... :shh
https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/news/afl-draft-prospect-in-lockdown-after-being-diagnosed-with-covid19/news-story/3d1b37b9a2e18daeb695cd9374469eae
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Richmond, too, has looked at moving up the board from pick No.7, with the Tigers' future first-round pick likely to need to be included for the Giants to shift back.
Clubs are chasing the player as much as the pick, with Sandringham Dragons midfielder Finn Callaghan's run, carry, size, athleticism and striking left-foot kicking viewed as the reason for the possible push up the list.
But will the Giants take the gamble or just hold their spot? There is little point in the club making that call until closer to the draft next month – or even once names begin to be called on November 24 – when the order of selections is clearer.
There looks to be four options in the mix for their pick: Callaghan, Josh Rachele, Josh Gibcus and Mac Andrew.
The Giants are stacked with midfielders, but are a club that has to approach their recruiting strategy differently to others, often using the draft to do their list management.
Pick swapping between clubs is open until Monday, November 15 before a blackout period stops clubs from wheeling and dealing until the night of the draft the following Wednesday.
https://www.afl.com.au/news/685526/what-will-giants-do-with-the-new-pick-no1
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AFL clubs look at Bazzo now as a defender with significant upside, with his coaches this year grateful for his willingness to always play whatever role the team needs.
A smooth mover who can roll off his opponent to intercept mark, he can sometimes look laconic but has developed a reputation as an authoritative big-game player who can also lock down on an opponent.
Melbourne premiership star Jake Lever, Greater Western Sydney defender Sam Taylor and West Coast's Tom Barrass are three players Bazzo has tried to model his game on, while Hawthorn defender Denver Grainger-Barras has helped him develop.
https://www.afl.com.au/news/685533/doing-it-for-dad-family-tragedy-fuels-bazzo-s-afl-ambitions
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58 draftee profiles on AFL Draft Central:
https://afl.draftcentral.com.au/power-rankings/2021-afl-draft-profiles/
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Jay Clarke's done a phantom. Can someone post who he had us taking please?
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October Rankings, lots of vision still to go back on but getting a great sense for the whole draft pool and still plenty of quality into the 40s. 15-30 range very close.
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https://twitter.com/EdPascoe_eDPS/status/1452122694749605892
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Jay Clarke's done a phantom. Can someone post who he had us taking please?
It's from 11-20. He has Goater going to us at our pick 17.
Jay Clark’s phantom draft: How picks 11-20 could fall
Jay Clark
HeraldSun
25 October 2021
The teens are an intriguing spot in this year’s AFL Draft. From boom-or-bust prospects to the potential sliders, clubs see it differently. Here’s how it could all play out.
11. St Kilda: Neil Erasmus (Subiaco)
188cm midfielder
The player: If this tall midfielder from Subiaco slips past Fremantle’s two picks, then the Saints won’t be able to call out his name quick enough. There is some Nat Fyfe in the way he can take a mark in the forward half and have a big impact through the middle with his size and clean hands. Initially shone as a forward but became a big-time ballwinner in the midfield this year. Reliable and hard-working.
The pick: Could easily see the Dockers snaring Erasmus as the local star midfield talent and Adam Cerra replacement. But he would tick all the boxes for the Saints who need some quality and size in a middle-of-the-road engine room. St Kilda has a lot riding on this year’s draft and Erasmus would be a dream addition for a club which is in the midst of a reset after loading up on mature-age talent in recent trade periods.
12. West Coast: Matthew Johnson (Subiaco)
192cm midfielder
The player: Another tall midfielder who has drawn comparisons to Collingwood champion Scott Pendlebury for his silkiness, evasiveness and class disposal. He is one of those players who seems to have time with the ball in hand and finds room in tight spaces. Johnson’s sidestep and fend-off are two of the weapons in a considerable trick bag. But while there is enormous upside, there has also been questions about consistency and intensity. Recruiters have challenged him on his tackling but he had nine of them in the curtain-raiser game on Grand Final day to answer the call.
The pick: Hard to know whether West Coast is a top-four or bottom-four team in 2022, given their form over the past two years. But the club knew in the trade period it had to keep its picks for this year’s draft to re-invest in some top young talent to help replenish an ageing squad. Ex-Blue Sam Petrevski-Seton, a former pick six, was basically a free hit in exchange for pick 52. Johnson is a high-end midfield talent who was best-on in the Grand Final day curtain-raiser, but not everyone is completely sold. Intriguing pick.
13. Essendon: Nasiah Wanganeen-Milera (Glenelg)
187cm midfielder
The player: A weapon on the wing or pushing deeper forward, Wanganeen-Milera breaks the lines with his run and carry and is elite by foot. Simply, forwards’ eyes light up when the nephew of Essendon and Port Adelaide great Gavin Wanganeen is delivering the ball their way. It is why Wanganeen Milera is one of the most damaging outside midfielders available and could help finish off a midfield which already has some grunt power.
The pick: Essendon is in the market to go up the order in this year’s draft and has spoken with clubs about potential swap deals. They could be open to moving on a future second-round selection to help march up the order next month. The Bombers have an exciting young list and while Bobby Hill unsuccessfully tried to make his way to Tullamarine, they are clearly in the market for a speedy forward. Irving Mosquito also departed. Wanganeen-Milera is more of a midfielder but would be an exciting addition nonetheless.
14. Port Adelaide: Arlo Draper (South Adelaide)
185cm midfielder/forward
The player: Arlo Draper is a classy and versatile playmaker who can add to the riches of young talent at the Power. Port’s recruiters deserve recognition for helping keep the club’s premiership window open with some recent hits and Draper is a classy ball user who can do some special things in the forward half, hitting difficult targets or impacting inside 50m. He’s a confident mark overhead which means he can play in different spots. The South Australian hurt his shoulder late in the year but it won’t be an ongoing concern.
The pick: The Power are in a decent position here as they look closely at several local talents including Wanganeen-Milera, Draper and Matthew Roberts. Port looks well-stocked for key forward targets with Mitch Georgiades, Todd Marshall and now Jeremy Finalyson, so there’s scope to target a versatile midfield type.
15. GWS: Tyler Sonsie (Eastern Ranges)
181cm midfielder
The player: Speedy midfielder likes to blow past his opponents and hit the scoreboard. He is classy on both sides of his body, clean by hand and can zip through bunches of players in the same manner as his one of his idols, Richmond premiership hero Trent Cotchin. He is likely to be a bigger threat on the outside earlier in his career and certainly has the versatility to be a dangerous player in the forward half. Was impressive for Box Hill in the VFL with 24 disposals and two goals. Has some elite traits with the ball.
The pick: GWS is in a strong position to manipulate the draft order to their advantage with picks two and this one. They would love ruckman Mac Andrew to fall this far and would snap him up here in a heartbeat if he happened to slide. With Bobby Hill potentially set to request a trade in 12 months’ time, Sonsie would be another nice addition if they’ve already taken Andrew or Finn Callaghan.
16. Brisbane: Jacob Van Rooyen (Claremont)
194cm key defender/forward
The player: The versatile key position prospect has been likened to Essendon’s Michael Hurley for his ability to impact at both ends. Started in defence and kicked the matchwinning goal in the dying seconds for Western Australia against South Australia. In a draft which features a lot of midfield types, Van Rooyen is one of the top talls available. Overcame a bout of glandular fever but already has a strong frame and can work his opponents over.
The pick: The Lions could add to their key position stocks here and Van Rooyen has a future in the AFL at both ends. The Lions’ recruiters have done a fine job in recent years snaring, among others, Zac Bailey at pick 15 in 2017, and will like their options with two picks inside 20. Expect one of them to target a tall.
17. Richmond: Josh Goater (Calder Cannons)
190cm midfielder/defender
The player: Quick and powerful midfielder has considerable x-factor and will be one of the most interesting selections of the draft. At 190cm, the big-bodied midfielder can explode out of the stoppage and use his leap to advantage anywhere around the ground. While he is still considered a raw prospect, recruiters believe he could pop up inside the first 10 picks considering the explosiveness and potential growth in his game. Could use him across half back for his burst and be a game breaker across wing or half forward.
The pick: This is Richmond’s strongest draft hand in a decade and if the Tigers nail the picks, it can really help re-charge the Tigers’ premiership prospects after a golden run. With multiple picks, they can take some risks and scouts think Goater is one of the biggest boom or bust prospects of this year’s pool. If they nabbed Rachelle and Goater with their first two picks, Tigers fans should get excited.
18. Sydney: Josh Sinn (Sandringham)
186cm defender-midfielder
The player: Speedy half back is renowned for having one of the most deadly left-foot kicks in this year’s crop. His ability to turn defence into attack on the burst makes him one of the most eye-catching players in the first round, but the Sandringham product suffered a hamstring injury and has slid down clubs’ draft boards a little this year. Takes the game on in an aggressive manner and will be a huge asset with his flair on the counter-attack.
The pick: Sydney would ideally love a top key position prospect to help bolster the club’s defensive stocks but maybe they have something up their sleeves in the free agency market. Logan McDonald is an exciting key forward and Tom McCartin has blossomed into an All-Australian contender but depth in this area is a query. With Jordan Dawson gone, Sinn has some appeal here.
19. Melbourne: Matthew Roberts (South Adelaide)
183cm midfielder/forward
The player: This ready-to-go midfielder has the kind of competitive edge the Demons built their premiership on. The hard-working left-footer with a penetrating kick and strong overhead mark has the versatility to play midfield-forward and looked comfortable this year playing SANFL seniors for South Adelaide. Looks like he could become a leader for his side and can be counted on whether he is winning a hard ball or on the end of a kick to the forward line.
The pick: The Demons’ midfield is already stacked so the club could go any way it wants to at this pick, but the reliable Roberts would be hard to pass up at this mark. The Demons have a well-balanced squad and after shooting the lights out with Luke Jackson, Kysaiah Pickett and Bayley Fritsch, among many others, Roberts might just be the best talent available here. Jason Taylor has arguably the best recruiting record in the game and, after signing a four-year contract extension with the Demons, the club will be thrilled he remains in charge of the draft analysis.
20. Brisbane: Campbell Chesser (Sandringham Dragons)
186cm defender/midfielder
The player: Former track star has a big motor and uses it to break the lines at either half back or on a the wing. The classy ball user is a link-up specialist and was All-Australian at under-16 level before a knee issue caused him some headaches at Sandringham. Can zigzag around his opponents if given licence to run and has impressed in club interviews. Briefly considered a future in athletics.
The pick: The Lions could do with an extra dose of pace and that is what Chesser would bring. There is a question mark over some of the Victorian prospects given how interrupted the past two seasons have been with COVID-19 restrictions but Chesser has been on recruiters’ radars for years. Impressive individual.
https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/afl-draft-2021-jay-clark-looks-at-how-the-cards-may-fall-in-next-months-afl-national-draft/news-story/a348a3c9e3e0b0a0f4874108d1c7f354
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Check out these responses from some of the 2021 #NABLeagueBoys when answering
⚡️”What sets you apart from the other potential draftees?”⚡️
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https://twitter.com/NABLeague
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Cut and paste some cliches together even if they don’t make sense, yep, perfect footballers
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Ben Hobbs (GWV Rebels)
Height: 183cm
Weight: 80kg
Had a stellar 2021 campaign despite the early finish, proving to be one of the top midfielders in the draft and a potential top-five selection.
A Horsham product, Hobbs was named in the midfield in the 2021 Nab League team of the Year following his impressive campaign with the Rebels and showing for Vic Country.
The Tigers are understood to be keeping an eye on the inside midfielder, touted as a comparable prospect to Trent Cotchin.
https://www.zerohanger.com/the-top-vic-country-prospects-for-the-2021-afl-draft-93186/
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HeraldSun: Jay Clark's Top 10:
1. North - Jason Horne-Francis
2. WB - Sam Darcy (matched bid)
3. Coll - Nick Daicos (matched bid)
4. GWS - Finn Callaghan
5. GC - Josh Gibcus
6. Adel - Ben Hobbs
7. Haw - Josh Ward
8. Freo - Jay Amiss
9. Rich - Josh Rachele
10. Freo - Mac Andrew
https://www.bing.com/images/blob?bcid=S6F7lRt322EDhURAd9mbkXzBQdNI.....xk
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If ward and hobbs are gone id go johnson not rachele
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Yeah I'd much rather go for the potential Toby Greene than the potential Aaron Fiora myself but hey that's just me... :shh
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Ultimate guide: Who’s in the draft mix at every club
What draft picks does your club have? And, more importantly, what will it do with them? We look at every team’s picks, list needs and targets.
Paywall: https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/draft/afl-draft-2021-ultimate-guide-every-clubs-picks-list-needs-and-targets/news-story/5b9dd13a585b04bd10493a09f8e8794f
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How will Tigers play powerful draft hand?
Richmond is set to have its first top 10 pick since 2012. And the Tigers have a total of five selections inside the top 30. How will they use them?
Paywall: https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/damien-hardwick-dustin-martin-and-a-string-of-young-stars-can-reignite-the-richmonds-premiership-dreams/news-story/72a755a0a8ef6ff7451df1946988789d
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Josh Sinns highlights looks good. Wouldn't surprise us looking at him at 9
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Should target Saints pick 9(11) with two of the second rounders & a future pick if need be then go:
7(9) -Rachelle
9(11) Goater
15 (17) NWM/Van Rooyen
Remaining second rounder - Williams/Butler/Chesser/Taylor/Bazzo
Freeman or a some hidden gem at 83 or upgrade Stack then rookie Freeman
Schlensog DFA
Easy Peasy Cheesy Peas.... :shh
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Next year is a super draft for talls apparently:
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https://twitter.com/EdPascoe_eDPS/status/1448408932678987776
Word is even the highest ranked talls in this draft would barely be second rounders in next year's...so wouldn't be all that fussed if we overlooked the talls this year and just loaded up on mids & mid-fwds (would still at least grab Schlensog though) :shh
Edit: Fixed link
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Ultimate guide: Who’s in the draft mix at every club
What draft picks does your club have? And, more importantly, what will it do with them? We look at every team’s picks, list needs and targets.
Paywall: https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/draft/afl-draft-2021-ultimate-guide-every-clubs-picks-list-needs-and-targets/news-story/5b9dd13a585b04bd10493a09f8e8794f
Here's what they say about Richmond:
Richmond
Draft picks: 7, 15, 26, 27, 28, 83
List needs: Inside midfielders, key forwards, outside speed, key defensive depth
Who could be available at first pick: Josh Rachele, Josh Ward, Ben Hobbs, Jye Amiss
Could be in the mix after that: Josh Goater, Josh Sinn, Zac Taylor, Angus Sheldrick, Jack Williams, Blake Howes, Greg Clark
Richmond is crying out for inside midfielders after being smashed in the clinches last season, ranking dead last for stoppage-clearance differential and 16th for contested-possession differential. Ball-winning machine Hobbs would suit the Tigers’ needs perfectly, but will he still be on the board at seven (nine after bids)? Ward, an ultra-consistent midfielder likened to Zach Merrett, could also impact right away and may be on offer, while Rachele has the match-winning traits as a forward-mid to be a superb option for the Tigers. Amiss is worth considering after the loss of Callum Coleman-Jones and Mabior Chol during the trade and free agency period. With five picks inside the top 30, Richmond could look to package selections to move up the board, but expect them to be sitting pretty either way with their strong hand. Line-breaking options Goater or Sinn may be available at the Tigers’ second pick, while draft bolter Sheldrick, a tough-as-nails 179cm midfielder, classy ball-user Taylor, roaming key forward Williams and wingman Howes look to be around the mark for their three picks in the 20s.
With 2022 looming as this group’s last shot at a premiership, could the Tigers take a punt on a mature-age midfielder? Former top-10 pick Nathan Freeman – who they showed interest in ahead of this year’s mid-season draft – or the 191cm Clark, the winner of the best-on-ground medal in Subiaco’s WAFL grand final, present as plug-in-and-play options.
https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/draft/afl-draft-2021-ultimate-guide-every-clubs-picks-list-needs-and-targets/news-story/5b9dd13a585b04bd10493a09f8e8794f
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Greg Clark:
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As Subiaco celebrated its third premiership in four seasons, there was no doubt which player would be named Simpson Medalist for best afield for the grand final.
Number 12 Greg Clark, standing at 193 cm and 94 kg, walked away with 26 disposals, six marks, 14 tackles and two goals, but that’s par for the course for the three-time premiership player.
Wind the clock back to 2015 and Clark had captained the Western Australia U18 side in the National Championships, going into the draft as one of the well-written-about prospects, one the new breed of oversized midfielders.
Even after passing out of the national draft without being selected, he was still being touted alongside Will Snelling and Adam Marcon as morals for the rookie draft, but after 137 names were read out, his went uncalled.
Hindsight is 20/20, but for a draft with so many players that have washed out of the AFL, it just seems perverse that 18 teams could continually overlook his obvious attributes and achievements.
Read more: https://www.theroar.com.au/2021/10/17/greg-clark-the-mature-age-wafl-sensation-your-club-needs/
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Why Dockers or Eagles might pull the trigger on a Calder Cannon gun Josh Goater.
https://www.afl.com.au/news/685521/why-dockers-or-eagles-might-pull-the-trigger-on-a-calder-cannon-gun
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Sounds like a gun (Clark) but does it translate to AFL. I'd be happy for the club to take a punt. Broady was a bit older when we took him.
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South Australian draft prospect Matthew Roberts says he’s spoken to 16 AFL clubs ahead of November’s National Draft.
https://www.sen.com.au/news/2021/10/25/sa-draft-prospect-has-spoken-to-16-afl-clubs/
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Mac Andrew could be drafted as high as the top two.
Callum Twomey likened Andrew to Dees premiership player Luke Jackson.
“There are some similarities,” he acknowledged.
“Just in terms of what they’re able to do athletically… (but) he’s a really lean prospect at the moment, he’ll take time to get used to the cut and thrust of it all.
“There’s a lot of clubs with top ten picks who are looking at Mac Andrew, including the Giants at pick two.”
Paul Hasleby says the Dockers, equipped with picks 6 and 8 in the national draft, have their sights set on the 18-year-old.
https://www.sen.com.au/news/2021/10/25/the-two-clubs-circling-a-draft-prospect-likened-to-luke-jackson/
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THE SA DRAFT PROSPECT WITH “MERCURIAL-TYPE ABILITY”
Arlo Draper is another South Adelaide product looking to realise his AFL dream in November’s National Draft.
The 18-year-old, who has been rated as a potential top 20 pick, suffered an AC joint injury in an Under-19 curtain raiser against Western Australia on Grand Final day, meaning he faces an interrupted first AFL pre-season.
Draper played two games for the Panthers at SANFL level and represented the club at reserves and Under-18 level, averaging 24.4 disposals and 6.6 clearances in the latter.
AFL Talent Ambassador Kevin Sheehan says the 185cm midfielder has some “exciting attributes” and “mercurial-type ability”.
“Arlo Draper’s an interesting one,” Sheehan told SEN SA’s Kymbo and The Rooch.
“He was a boy I first saw in the Under-16s over in Perth in 2019. He was playing on a back flank and Jason Horne-Francis was clearly the best player for SA that day, and Draper was the second best.
“But then he was injured and didn’t play the other couple of games as I recall. We’ve seen him play some good senior footy as a forward.
“He’s got some exciting attributes and mercurial type of ability, no doubt.”
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SA talent Matthew Roberts has also been touted as a top 20 draft prospect having impressed for the Panthers in the SANFL in the latter part of the season.
“I think he (Roberts) was their (SA’s) best player in the representative matches they played this year,” Sheehan said.
“He’s your safe bet. He’s a bit like Luke Dunstan, another boy from SA who has just been traded from St Kilda to Melbourne, a left footer who is a strongly built contested ball winner.
“Young Matty can get forward as he did in that Prelim Final where Jason Horne-Francis played so well, kicked a couple of goals in that game.
“He rises to every challenge. He’s a draftable player I think in the top 25.”
https://www.sen.com.au/news/2021/10/26/the-sa-draft-prospect-with-mercurial-type-ability/
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I got a feeling Amiss might be available at our pick have to grab him.
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Foxfooty.com.au, with the help of Champion Data, assesses every club’s biggest list need and the 2021 draftees that could assist plugging the hole.
RICHMOND
Picks: 7, 15, 26, 27, 28, 83
List needs: Of all the pressing concerns, the Tigers’ on-ball brigade should be addressed first up at this year’s draft, especially considering Shane Edwards, Trent Cotchin, Dustin Martin and Kane Lambert will all be over 30 by Round 1 next season. The Tigers ranked 16th for contested possession differential and 18th for clearance differential in 2021.
Who the club should target with its first pick:Ben Hobbs would make a lot of sense. The gun inside midfielder, who averaged 29.2 disposals and 6.2 clearances from his five full NAB League games this year, has already been heavily linked to the Tigers. Whether he’s still on the board by then, though, is uncertain, with Gold Coast, Adelaide and Hawthorn to also consider him. Northern Knights’ Josh Ward and Subiaco’s Neil Erasmus, who both averaged big disposal numbers in their respective Under 19 state competitions this season, should also be around the Pick 7 mark.
https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/draft/afl-draft-order-2021-the-player-every-afl-club-should-take-with-first-pick-date-news/news-story/f423fba03442b919e0104b3f929795e1
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Would definitely look at Roberts using a pick in the 20's. Is a great runner across the ground and does have some toe when needed. This year during a game he was clocked at 36.0KM/H which is top end speed.
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Cal Twomey's Phantom Form Guide: Best draft prospects ranked (October 30)
nb. Remember this is not a mock draft – it is our rankings of the best players and does not take into account where father-son or Academy bids could come.
1. Nick Daicos (Coll F/S) ........ Midfielder 183cm/72kg 3/1/03 Oakleigh Chargers/Vic Metro
2. Jason Horne-Francis .......... Midfielder 183cm/77kg 21/6/03 South Adelaide/South Australia
3. Sam Darcy (Dogs F/S) ....... Forward/defender 204cm/75kg 19/7/03 Oakleigh Chargers/Vic Metro
4. Finn Callaghan .................. Midfielder 189cm/82kg 26/4/03 Sandringham Dragons/Vic Metro
5. Ben Hobbs ....................... Midfielder 183cm/80kg 16/9/03 Greater Western Victoria Rebels/Vic Country
6. Josh Ward ........................ Midfielder 181cm/79kg 15/8/03 Northern Knights/Vic Metro
7. Josh Gibcus ...................... Key defender 195cm/84kg 4/4/03 Greater Western Victoria Rebels/Vic Country
8. Josh Rachele .................... Forward/midfielder 180cm/78kg 11/4/03 Murray Bushrangers/Vic Country (+1)
9. Mac Andrew ..................... Ruckman 200cm/70kg 12/4/03 Dandenong Stingrays/Vic Country (-1)
10. Neil Eramus .................... Midfielder/forward 188cm/80kg 2/12/03 Subiaco/Western Australia
11. Jye Amiss ....................... Key forward 195cm/83kg 31/7/03 East Perth/Western Australia
12. Nasiah Wanganeen-Milera .. Midfielder 187cm/69kg 22/2/03 Glenelg/South Australia (+2)
13. Josh Sinn ......................... Half-back/midfielder 186cm/73kg 7/1/03 Sandringham Dragons/Vic Metro (+2)
14. Matthew Johnson ......,...... Midfielder 192cm/80kg 16/3/03 Subiaco/Western Australia (-1)
15. Arlo Draper ..................... Midfielder/forward 185cm/71kg 20/1/03 South Adelaide/South Australia (-3)
16. Tyler Sonsie .................... Midfielder 181cm/77kg 27/1/03 Eastern Ranges/Vic Metro
17. Josh Goater .................... Midfielder 190cm/79kg 2/6/03 Calder Cannons/Vic Metro (+1)
18. Sam Butler .................... Midfielder/forward 184cm/73kg 10/2/03 Greater Western Victoria Rebels/Vic Country (+1)
19. Darcy Wilmot ................. Defender 183cm/75kg 31/12/03 Northern Knights/Vic Metro (+3)
20. Jesse Motlop ................... Forward 176cm/74kg 23/11/03 South Fremantle/Western Australia (+4)
21. Jacob Van Rooyen ........... Forward/defender 194cm/88kg 16/4/03 Claremont/Western Australia
22. Campbell Chesser ............ Midfielder/defender 186cm/83kg 27/4/03 Sandringham Dragons/Vic Country (-2)
23. Tom Brown .................... Defender 186cm/71kg 30/7/03 Murray Bushrangers/Vic Country
24. Toby Conway .................. Ruckman 204cm/90kg 24/4/03 Geelong Falcons/Vic Country (+2)
25. Zac Taylor ...................... Midfielder 180cm/74kg 31/1/03 Calder Cannons/Vic Metro (+3)
26. Josh Fahey ..................... Defender 186cm/76kg 11/11/03 GWS Academy (new)
27. Matthew Roberts ............. Midfielder/forward 183cm/81kg 31/7/03 South Adelaide/South Australia (-10)
28. Blake Howes .................. Forward/midfielder 190cm/79kg 7/4/03 Sandringham Dragons/Vic Metro (+1)
29. Marcus Windhager ........... Midfielder 183cm/82kg 16/5/03 Sandringham Dragons/Vic Metro (-4)
30. Mitchito Owens ................ Midfielder 190cm/85kg 24/9/03 Sandringham Dragons/Vic Metro (new)
31. Connor MacDonald ........... Midfielder 184cm/77kg 13/1/03 Dandenong Stingrays/Vic Country (new)
32. Mitch Knevitt ................... Midfielder 193cm/81kg 8/1/03 Geelong Falcons/Vic Country (new)
33. Rhett Bazzo ................. Key defender/forward 195cm/81kg 17/10/03 Swan Districts/Western Australia (-3)
34. Jack Williams .................. Key forward 195cm/91kg 1/12/03 East Fremantle/Western Australia (-7)
35. Judson Clarke .................. Forward 180cm/70kg 17/10/01 Dandenong Stingrays/Vic Country (new)
Dropped out of Top 35:
Hugh Jackson ................. Midfielder 181cm/70kg 3/5/03 North Adelaide/South Australia (-5)
Full summary of each potential draftee here: https://www.afl.com.au/news/685788/cal-twomey-s-phantom-form-guide-top-draft-prospects-october-ranking
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Anyone seen and rate this kid? He's got wheels to burn.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RHzRRl1k45Y
Ronald Fejo's stats:
HGT: 178cm
WGT: 70kg
DOB: 16/12/2001 (19 years old).
West Adelaide seniors: https://sanfl.com.au/league/clubs/west-adelaide/1016137/?league=sanfl&season=2021
West Adelaide ressies: https://sanfl.com.au/league/clubs/west-adelaide/1016137/?league=reserves&season=2021
NAB League - Nth Territory: https://central.rookieme.com/afl/player/ronald-fejo/
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I disagree with foxfooty. We are refreshing the entire list for 5+ years from now. Take the best available. This draft will make or break the 2026 team not 2022.
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Will St Kilda be forced to trade pick 9 to try and split it for picks in the teens/twenties for their academy kids?
RIVALS PONDERING PINCHING SAINTS ACADEMY GUN
St Kilda’s top academy prospect could be pinched from the Saints’ grasp, with clubs considering whether to take gun running midfielder Mitchito Owens inside the top 20, reports the Herald Sun.
Owens has surged into first-round calculations after a terrific back-end to his 2021 campaign, averaging 23.3 disposals, 5.7 marks and 3/7 inside 50s from his final three NAB League games.
The Herald Sun reported rival clubs that hold draft picks in the late teens were considering taking Owens — a speedy and agile 190cm midfielder.
Brisbane, Richmond, Sydney and Melbourne hold the last five picks of the first round.
St Kilda holds Picks 9, 62, 66 and 67 in this year’s a draft. If it doesn’t accumulate more draft picks and points, the club would go into deficit if a bid on Owens came outside the top 20 but before Pick 50. However the Saints have a full complement of future-round picks to work with in order to trade back into this year’s draft.
https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/draft/afl-draft-2021-mitchito-owens-st-kilda-academy-tex-wanganeen-essendon-port-adelaide-fatherson/news-story/1f6febbbb5d464996604d6529d7a2ec0
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According to Callum Twomey & Nat Edwards on their AFL podcast:
Rhett Bazzo - likely to go inside 2nd round between picks 20-40.
Connor MacDonald - clubs inside pick 30 looking at him. In and under player but can also win it on the outside.
Judson Clarke - Kicked 5 goals for Vic Country. Will start his AFL career as a half-forward. Potential 2nd rounder.
https://www.afl.com.au/video/685929/the-crafty-left-foot-forward-on-the-radar-clubs-eye-wa-swingman
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From Smythe .... one of BF's draft watchers:
If Gibcus makes it to Richmond's first pick he would come into consideration, but not top priority or best available, as for Butler and Sonsie I don’t think Richmond are interested, Howes they like, and Murley would be a great get for anyone.
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IMO, and I share this opinion with others, Butler does not have great disposal and Sonsie is a one way runner with injury history, granted they can both be fixed but there would be much better options out there who they have said, chase, tackle, pressure and have sound disposal and decision making skills with a look to getting a ball winning mid then getting players to develop in areas of need, that being a young KPF and possibly a defender.
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As I mentioned earlier if Gibcus was there at our first he would come into consideration but would not be best available or top priority……to simplify, they want a mid and they like Hobbs, with that second pick it will be best available or developable KPP, they want to rejuvenate the spine and have it solid enough for in a few years time.
They have brought in Tarrant not only for coverage but to help teach Miller to take over from him, they need another young def and at the same time they need a kpf to groom to take over from Jack, currently….no one, it was going to be CCJ, Nyuon is coming along nicely down back as an intercepting def in the grimes mold, so the priority is Kpf, and ball winning mids.
They have a plethora of outside and balanced mids but need a clearance winning bull to work alongside RCD in extracting the ball.
Sonsie can do that, but is a one way runner.
Butler, whilst he is a mid/fwd, that role is similar to Titch Edwards, and that player needs pure skills and decision making with effective ball use, butler does not have that, he is more of a very quick ball winner but blasts away.
Richmond could be interested in them, and I’m not saying they shouldn’t be, but I don’t see, given their recent recruiting process, why they would be.
https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/smythes-2021-draft-thread.1252879/post-72758741
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Yeah that clown also has us trading our three second rounders to the Dawks for their second rounder and future second.... :joker
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Prospects, rankings, draft range, Tyler Sonsie, Matthew Roberts, Arlo Draper, Rhett Bazzo
Ben Waterworth
Fox Sports
October 28th, 2021
Some might’ve slid from first-round contention, while some have bolted into the top-10 mix.
And then there’s the wildcard prospects.
Foxfooty.com.au profiles 10 players from this year’s AFL draft class that clubs believe have a wide draft range.
Tyler Sonsie (Eastern Ranges/Vic Metro)
The 181cm on-baller possesses talent that warrants a top-five selection, but his inconsistency due to injury and lack of continuity this year has seen him slide down many club draft boards. A midfielder with a high footy IQ, strength at the contest, flair and class on the outside, Sonsie can swing the momentum of a match promptly. Some clubs, though, appear hesitant to use an early pick on him.
Draft Range: 10-30
Rhett Bazzo (Swan Districts/WA)
There’s several gun key-position prospects out of WA this year – and Bazzo is one of them. However clubs and draft-watchers were perplexed this season as to why he played a lot of school footy and WAFL colts games earlier in the season as a key forward, despite being widely viewed as a tall defender that can intercept the ball. The 195cm prospect starred late in the year for his state, finishing with 18 disposals and 10 marks in a game against South Australia. There are some question marks on how he defends in one-on-one contests, but his ability to read the ball is unquestionable.
Draft Range: 20-40
Matthew Roberts (South Adelaide/SA)
He was good enough to win a spot in his SANFL club’s league team late in the season, but there was a chasm between his league and Under 18s output. The 183cm midfielder, who has good endurance, disposal skills and a developing inside-outside balance, blitzed his first three Under 18s games, kicking five goals and averaging 32.0 disposals, 8.3 marks, 7.7 tackles, 7.7 inside 50s and 6.3 clearances. Roberts then managed seven league games, booting six goals – two of them in a preliminary final – and averaging 11.1 disposals. He has the potential to play senior footy in 2022 and would be a safe pick for most clubs, but ultimately what you see is what you get with Roberts and there’s a question mark over his athleticism.
Draft Range: 15-35
Arlo Draper (South Adelaide/SA)
Draper has drawn comparisons to 2020 Essendon draftee Archie Perkins, not just for his on-field ability to win contested possessions and hit the scoreboard, but also for his laid-back approach to footy and life. After breaking into the SA side two years ago as a mid-sized backman, the 186cm prospect was pushed into the midfield and forward line and played across all three SANFL competitions this year. AFL draft guru Kevin Sheehan told SEN SA Draper has “some exciting attributes and mercurial type of ability”. But some clubs are wary of Draper’s aerobic capacity, hence they see him more as a half-forward or half-back rather than a midfielder.
Draft Range: 15-30
Mitch Knevitt (Geelong Falcons/Vic Country)
There’s a lot of upside in Knevitt, which has seen him become an outside chance to be taken in this year’s first round. A tall inside midfielder at 194cm with a strong appetite to win contested ball, Knevitt won the Geelong Falcons’ best and fairest this year after averaging 24.3 touches from his nine NAB League games. His final three games were particularly eye-catching, averaging 30.3 disposals, 6.6 tackles, 6.3 marks and 6.0 inside 50s. Knevitt does need to improve his kicking efficiency, though.
Draft Range: 20-35
Jacob Van Rooyen (Claremont/WA)
A genuine utility at 193cm, Van Rooyen has been played at both ends of the field this season – and thrived. He starred at WAFL colts level, booting 34.14 from nine games – an average of nearly four goals per outing. But Van Rooyen was just as impressive when he was swung into defence, especially against South Australia at national championships level. Will be in the mix for selection in the first round.
Draft Range: 15-30
Josh Goater (Calder Cannons/Vic Metro)
An athletic and powerful 190cm on-baller with explosiveness and clean hands, Goater looms as a fan favourite at AFL level, no matter which club picks him up. Goater is strong at the contest yet just as capable on the outside, highlighted by his strong finish to the NAB League season where he played – and impressed – as an intercept defender, averaging 30.5 disposals, 4.0 intercept marks and 8.5 intercept possessions from his final two games. With so much upside, Goater is a player that could be on the cusp of the top 10 – the Dockers and Eagles might look at him, considering his dad David was from WA and played WAFL footy for East Perth – or the end of the first round come draft night.
Draft Range: 8-20
Matthew Johnson (Subiaco/WA)
The tall midfielder (192cm) couldn’t have done much more across the final month of his 2021 campaign to boost his prospects. After averaging 25 disposals from his final three WAFL reserves games, Johnson was named WA’s best player in the AFL Grand Final curtain-raiser clash against SA. A few weeks later at the draft combine, he placed third nationally in the agility test, sixth in the standing vertical jump and seventh in the running vertical jump while also running the 20m sprint in under three seconds.
Draft Range: 8-20
Josh Sinn (Sandringham Dragons/Vic Metro)
Stealing is a sin, but Sinn could be the steal of this year’s draft, should he slip to the latter stages of the first round. A genuine line-breaker with explosive leg speed and run and carry ability, Sinn is one of the most exciting first-round prospects. But after entering the year as a top-five contender, he endured a frustrating, injury-interrupted season, averaging just 17.6 disposals at NAB League level. One aspect recruiters believe Sinn needs to work on is his ability to play at different tempos in-game. But once fit at AFL level, the 186cm prospect could become one of the most eye-catching players in the game.
Draft Range: 10-20
Zac Taylor (Calder Cannons/Vic Metro)
The 180cm midfielder is another first-round bolter following a terrific end to his 2021 campaign. After averaging 19.8 touches from his first four NAB League matches, Taylor upped the ante significantly in his final three games, finishing with 32, 34 and 37 disposals respectively. An efficient, clever distributor with a strong inside-outside balance, Taylor is one of the most well-rounded on-ballers in this year’s pool but could ultimately be a small forward at AFL level.
Draft Range: 20-30
https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/draft/afl-draft-2021-news-prospects-rankings-draft-range-tyler-sonsie-matthew-roberts-arlo-draper-rhett-bazzo/news-story/af5a487fa0cebad15afd989373d22bcb
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Callum Twomey reckons there will be only 56 picks used in the Draft.
He said we (Richmond) would have to give up pick 7 + our future first to do a swap with GWS for pick 2.
https://www.afl.com.au/news/686050/listen-the-horne-francis-v-daicos-debate-why-this-draft-will-be-different
Mac Andrew has bulked up to 80kg ahead of AFL draft. He's put on 10kg this year.
https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/big-mac-andrew-bulks-up-ahead-of-afl-draft-20211027-p593q0.html
Jye Amiss highlights clip & article.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-rLGqrKyL8
https://www.afl.com.au/news/685933/the-family-decision-that-changed-dead-eye-jye-amiss-forever
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No to 7 + future 1st
Two for one is not ideal
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No to 7 + future 1st
Two for one is not ideal
I would do that in a heart beat for Callaghan
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No to 7 + future 1st
Two for one is not ideal
I would do that in a heart beat for Callaghan
If he is a generational player??
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Charlie Dean be a good pick-up for us from Williamstown KP.
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No to 7 + future 1st
Two for one is not ideal
Reasonable to be sceptical about trading away future picks but people forget that we can still get back into the draft during next year's trade & draft period and would probably have plans in place to do so... :shh
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The success rate of each top 10 pick.
https://www.zerohanger.com/the-success-rate-of-top-10-draft-picks-92075/
No. 9 Pick
Picks: Kayne Pettifer, Luke Molan, Hamish Mcintosh, David Trotter, Jordan Russell, Mitch Clark, David Armitage, Ben McEvoy, Jack Ziebell, Andrew Moore, Dion Prestia, Adam Tomlinson, Nick Vlaustin, Christian Salem, Darcy Moore, Sam Weideman
Average games played: 120
Average Brownlow votes: 13
Combined All-Australian selections: 1
Combined club best and fairest awards: 1
Overall, this spot inside the top 10 has delivered some very good team players which may lack the accolades of other spots. The lone All-Australian selection belongs to Darcy Moore, while the one club best and fairest belongs to Dion Prestia in Richmond's 2019 premiership year.
David Armitage, Ben McEvoy, Jack Zieball, Adam Tomlinson and Nick Vlaustin have all gone on to become vital players at their respective clubs, while Christian Salem seems to be entering his prime.
Key-forward Sam Weideman has looked to break onto the scene on multiple occasions but has battled with consistency. Still young, Weideman possesses real key position talent and could mould into a quality forward for the Demons.
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Draft profile: Ben Hobbs
The bullish Rebels onballer is touted as the best inside midfielder in his class.
Mitch Keating
zerohanger.com
October 29, 2021
A ready-made midfielder more than capable of winning his own ball, Vic Country's Ben Hobbs firms as an early selection come draft night as he is seen as arguably the best inside midfielder on offer.
With the likes of Jason Horne-Francis and Nick Daicos looking already assigned to AFL clubs before next month's National Draft, Hobbs joins Sandringham Dragons best and fairest Finn Callaghan as the next names in the queue in what is a midfield-dominated class.
Hailing from the regional town of Horsham, Hobbs has been a constant force in the middle of a football field for years, having featured in his local team's senior premiership at the age of 15, almost claiming best afield honours.
A proven ball-magnet in the Nab League with the Rebels, Hobbs was able to take advantage of the short exposure pool this year in averaging 25 possessions per game and even claiming a place in the midfield of the 2021 Team of the Year.
Team: Greater Western Victoria Rebels
Position: Midfielder
Height: 183cm
Weight: 80kg
Strengths
Ball-winning ability
Power
Clearances
Leadership
Vision
Tackling
Ready-made
Weaknesses
Moving the ball by foot
Speed
Draft Range
5-10
Potential Landing Spots
Hawthorn (Pick 5), Richmond (Pick 7), St Kilda (Pick 9)
AFL Comparisons
Ben Keays
Jacob Hopper
Trent Cotchin
Expert Comments
"In a draft full of players dividing opinion among club recruiters, the majority are sold when it comes to Hobbs. A growing list of them rate the brave accumulator as the best pure inside midfielder in the pool." - Callum Twomey
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Winning tough, contested footy is the key to Ben Hobbs game. Getting his name called on draft night will make all the sacrifices worth it. @GWVRebels
Watch: https://twitter.com/NABLeague/status/1417747368921890818
Next Generation Highlights:
Watch: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sR01R69wTog
https://www.zerohanger.com/draft-profile-ben-hobbs-93345/
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Off the charts: The well-travelled draft prospect Josh Gibcus with a monster vertical leap.
https://www.afl.com.au/news/686164/off-the-charts-the-well-travelled-draft-prospect-with-a-monster-vertical-leap
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Another phantom draft from one of BF's draft watchers (Chris25):
1. North Melbourne - Jason Horne-Francis
2. Western Bulldogs - Sam Darcy
3. Collingwood - Nick Daicos
4. Adelaide (trade up) - Finn Callaghan
No surprises yet. GWS do the 'right' thing and bid on Darcy and Daicos, then put their selection up for trade. Hawthorn, Richmond and Fremantle come calling for Finn Callaghan but Adelaide wins out with a future pick involved for the Giants to drop two spots.
5. Gold Coast - Josh Gibcus
6. Richmond (trade up) - Ben Hobbs
And GWS keep on trading down, willing to risk their player still being available while Richmond want to get ahead of Hawthorn to get whoever they prefer of Hobbs and Ward. What have they traded? Well I didn't think that far ahead. Probably either one of their seconds this year or a future pick.
7. Hawthorn - Josh Ward
8. Fremantle - Josh Rachele
9. GWS (trade down) - Mac Andrew
GWS want Mac Andrew, and they get him after trading down twice. The risk is Fremantle picking at 8, but I think they'll have Rachele and Amiss pencilled in.
10. Fremantle - Jye Amiss
11. St Kilda - Neil Erasmus
12. West Coast - Matthew Johnson
13. Essendon - Nasiah Wanganeen-Milera
14. Port Adelaide - Josh Goater
Still nothing overly different, Port Adelaide is perhaps the first real interesting pick. They could go local with Draper, which would allow Rozee and Butters to get more midfield time. Mitch Knevitt is being talked about a bit as well, but while I have them sticking with a tall midfielder I'll go with the extra speed and run of Goater.
15. GWS - Arlo Draper
16. Brisbane - Josh Sinn
17. Richmond - Tyler Sonsie
18. Sydney - Tom Brown
19. Melbourne - Mitch Owens
20. Brisbane - Zac Taylor
I'll lump these picks together because it's where the draft could go any number of ways. And the lack of any KPPs is probably the glaring omission. But I think Richmond and Sydney are both in prime positions to target the second round - both will no doubt come calling for Fremantle's #21. So instead they'll go for players they have rated higher in the first round and then see how things fall. Brisbane's #20 will also be a hotly contested trade piece, I think it's more likely they trade than pick but we'll see.
https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/chris25s-2021-young-talent-time.1287669/post-72758760
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That won’t happen, Hobbs might be first option but the other 5 players that Richmond could take are very close.
If we did this trade we wouldn’t gain much and miss out on someone like JVR , no thanks
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- Trade the second rounders to 'aints for pick 9 & a future pick
- 7(9),9(11),15(17) 3 of Erasmus/Ward/Hobbs/Rachelle/NWM/Van Rooyan/Sonsie/Goater and er...Johnson.... I guess...
- Choose two SSP's from Schlensog, Freeman,a kid or two that missed out and/or another highly rated state leaguer....leave a spot free for next year's MSD....
:shh
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Dio and me disagree on Johnson. Based on the limited footage he looks ok. His a big mid. Dio can you explain why you dont rate him.
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Itll be interesting for us at pick 15 (17) what we do with Fahey and if Zac Taylor is around at 26 what we do with him. With a bit of luck we could fix our midfield for the next 10 years. Im also hoping we take Bazzo with one of our picks in the 20s. Id rather use a future pick and say pick 28 this yearto try and get saints 9. Take 7 9 15 26 27 to the draft table.
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Dio and me disagree on Johnson. Based on the limited footage he looks ok. His a big mid. Dio can you explain why you dont rate him.
As I said ..strong Fiora vibes for me...could be wrong and probably am, we'll see... :shh
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Zac Taylor article:
Why Cannons' B&F winner with high footy IQ is Taylor-made for AFL
https://www.afl.com.au/news/686220/why-cannons-b-f-winner-with-high-footy-iq-is-taylor-made-for-afl
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Phillips said the salaries they receive are “awesome” and many draftees have very few expenses, due to the levels clubs go to look after them.
“Picks 1-20 you’re on a base salary of $105,000 a year, 21-40 you’re on $95,000 and 41 and up you then go onto $90,000 a year, and rookies are rookie listed at 85,000 a year,” he said.
“They get a bonus on top of that in terms of $4,000 per game bonus … if you’re a top 20 draft pick, you might average 10 games in your first season, so you’re looking at probably taking home $145,000 in your first year of football straight out of school, which is a fair wage.
https://www.sen.com.au/news/2021/11/01/the-huge-financial-sacrifice-afl-clubs-make-to-draft-a-player/
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Even ‘Big Mac’ is surprised by his own meteoric rise
If you’d told Mac Andrew 12 months ago he’d be a potential top-10 pick in the 2021 draft, he “probably would have laughed” at you. Here’s the story behind his incredible rise.
https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/draft/mac-andrew-opens-up-on-his-meteoric-rise-as-his-afl-draft-stocks-soar/news-story/9abf2f091c60a268079d2deb1a185b82
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Butler emerging from bro's shadow after hit that smashed him 'in half'
Sam Butler remembers the moment his big brother Dan won his first premiership.
He also remembers the scenes just after the Richmond's 2017 Grand Final victory, when Sam himself – then just 14 years of age – got his own piece of priceless premiership memorabilia.
"You know that photo with Dusty and Dane Swan in the rooms? I'm in the background. I was pretty happy about that one," Sam laughed.
Four years on, Sam has developed into a tough 184cm mid-forward and is on the cusp of making more of his own memories at this month's NAB AFL Draft after an impressive season with the Greater Western Victoria Rebels.
While the two brothers are vastly different players – Sam has grabbed the attention of AFL recruiters as a clean, courageous and no-fuss midfielder who can shift into attack, while Dan is a potent and unrelenting pressure forward – they lean on each other for everything.
"I had previously gone to Richmond during Year 10 for work experience as well. When I was there, I pretty much did what I was doing at St Kilda but I washed a few towels and that as well."
Sam has fans in the top-20 of the draft, while a host of clubs with picks in the early stages of the second round would also be eager for the youngster to slide through the first night on November 24.
The interest comes after a campaign where Champion Data notes that Sam ranked No.1 in the NAB League for contested possessions (9.2 per game), tackles (4.8 ) and goals (0.8 ) among all mid-forwards.
Clean on ground level and effective when he pushes forward, Sam's toughness and bravery was epitomised by a courageous contest back in April against the Murray Bushrangers that left him with a cracked sternum.
Full article: https://www.afl.com.au/news/686252/butler-emerging-from-bro-s-shadow-after-hit-that-smashed-him-in-half-
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Draft Profile: Josh Gibcus
Get to know the best key-defender in this year’s draft class 👇
Mitch Keating
zerohanger.com
November 1, 2021
Greater Western Victoria's Josh Gibcus is a bonafide top 10 talent for the 2021 National Draft, firming as the leading key-defender in his class.
Given the smaller sample of tall full-time backmen elsewhere in the draft, Gibcus' value to AFL clubs is sure to be magnified as the count draws closer.
A threat in defence given his ability in the air to lock-down opposition forwards, gather the ball at ground level and negate and impact opposition forward entries for his team's benefit.
Was one of four GWV Rebels players to earn a spot in the NAB League Boys Team of the Year, taking the role of centre half-back.
Having shown plenty of composure on some difficult tasks throughout his career heading toward the AFL Draft, Gibcus looks to be a ready-made asset that can plug a hole in defence from next year, before blossoming into a substantial threat for any side down the road.
While his role when attacking may be an area for improvement, there is no questioning Gibcus' ability to hinder any oncoming onslaught and give his side the best chance of keeping opponent scores to a minimum.
Team: Greater Western Victoria Rebels
Position: Defender
Height: 195cm
Weight: 84kg
Strengths
Vertical
Lockdown defence
Intercept
Ability to impact attacking entries
Pressure
Weaknesses
Kicking
Transitioning into attack
Draft Range
2-8
Potential Landing Spots
Greater Western Sydney (Pick 2), Gold Coast (Pick 3), Hawthorn (Pick 5)
AFL Comparisons
Jordan Ridley
Sam Taylor
Tom Doedee
Expert Comments
"Clubs place a premium on intercept defenders and Gibcus' talents in the backline are obvious to all. The Rebels prospect models his game on Brisbane's Harris Andrews and Melbourne's Jake Lever, and there are similarities in their style with the leap and reading of the play." - Callum Twomey
https://www.zerohanger.com/draft-profile-josh-gibcus-93590/
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November rankings
Peter Williams
central.rookieme.com
2 November 2021
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11. Josh Rachele
Murray Bushrangers/Vic Country | Forward/Midfielder
11/04/2003 | 180cm | 78kg
October Ranking: #12
Snapshot: A mercurial forward who has drawn comparisons to GWS star Toby Greene, Rachele has unbelievable smarts, skills, and a keen eye for goal.
Rachele is rightly a standout among his draft class, having taken out the Under 16 Division 1 MVP award for Vic Country in 2019. He quickly went on to represent the Murray Bushrangers, averaging a tick under 18 disposals and two goals in four games as a 16-year-old. The exciting forward hails from an elite soccer background and has quick feet to show for it, as well as the smiling celebrations you’d expect on the end of well-finished goals. Rachele is lauded for his skills and smarts in the forward half, but has shown an aptitude for midfield work with his turn of speed and ability to find the ball at ground level. He’s capable of highlight-reel moments and does things others simply cannot, with the potential to be a top five player in this crop at his absolute best.
12. Tyler Sonsie
Eastern Ranges/Vic Metro | Midfielder
27/01/2003 | 181cm | 77kg
October Ranking: #11
Snapshot:
A smooth-moving midfielder with terrific poise and class, Sonsie opens up the play with his clean disposal and ability to find the goals. One of the most highly-touted Victorian prospects before a ball had been bounced in 2021, Sonsie’s absolute best is exceptionally good. The Eastern Ranges prospect was Vic Metro’s Under 16 MVP in 2019 and is one of the few 2003-born NAB Leaguers to have already experienced the Under 19 competition. He was part of his region’s 2019 minor premiership-winning side, rolling forward off a wing. Now a draft eligible talent, Sonsie has moved more permanently into midfield and while he is developing his defensive running, has plenty of attacking traits to offer. His ability to exit stoppages with poise and make good decisions with ball in hand is top notch, with that exceptional skill level also translating to dual-sided finishing in front of goal. A knee injury curtailed the end of Sonsie’s season, and he is a type who could prove plenty of people wrong if he slides any further outside the top 10.
13. Jye Amiss
East Perth/Western Australia | Tall Forward
31/07/2003 | 196cm | 83kg
October Ranking: #14
Snapshot: A deadeye key forward whose rate of improvement has been a sight to behold, Amiss is nothing short of prolific inside attacking 50.
You’ll hear plenty of puns regarding the key forward’s ironic surname but it’s true that Amiss is more hit than, well, miss. The East Perth spearhead dominated the 2021 WAFL Colts season, booting 51 goals in 15 games with a ridiculously good conversion rate of 77 per cent from his scoring shots. He proved undeniable for selection in a West Australian state squad stacked with key position talent, and doesn’t need a wealth of opportunities to make an impact. With sound overhead marking and an improving ground level game, Amiss is an irresistible threat inside attacking 50 who has shot into top 10 calculations. He suffered a year-ending injury while representing WA, tearing the posterior cruciate ligament in his left knee after a sore final month of play.
14. Josh Sinn
Sandringham Dragons/Vic Metro | Defender/Midfielder
7/01/2003 | 186cm | 82kg
October Ranking: #16
Snapshot: A line-breaking half-back who has shown promising development in midfield, Sinn’s greatest strengths are his speed and kick penetration.
Another established leader among the Victorian crop as one of Sandringham’s co-captains, Sinn’s best is as damaging as anyone in the overall draft pool. He is regarded as the most damaging and technical kick in the Dragons’ program and is given the license to look for options others simply wouldn’t. His penetrative boot and line-breaking speed make him a meters gained machine, observed most significantly with his well-timed runs off half-back or on the wing. Sinn has also moved onto the inside to good effect, showing a handy balance of traits and utilising the size he added during last year’s lost season. His campaign has been interrupted by injury, but he looked close to regaining top form at times. He was poised to return late in the piece, and without the opportunity to prove his top 10 potential, may end up a first round bargain.
15. Arlo Draper
South Adelaide/South Australia | Midfielder/Forward
20/01/2003 | 186cm | 75kg
October Ranking: #13
Snapshot: Draper is a classy midfielder-forward who utilises his agility in tight spaces through the engine room, and brilliant marking ability to impact when stationed inside attacking 50.
One of the more intriguing and versatile prospects in the draft pool, Draper has garnered attention with his promising bottom-age form and continued success in all three SANFL grades this year. The smooth-moving midfielder had no trouble getting his hands on the ball at stoppages with more consistent time in midfield, before impacting in his resting stints up forward. He is yet another South Adelaide prospect in the mix, with his stylish form and clean hands making him easy on the eye to keen draft watchers. He is one who will feature highly on many draft boards despite being snubbed by the AFL Academy, and has great upside in his current role. Expect him to feature within the first round, courting specific interest from local clubs.
16. Matthew Johnson
Subiaco/Western Australia | Midfielder
16/03/2003 | 192cm | 81kg
October Ranking: #15
Snapshot: With smooth agility and clean hands at the contest, Johnson is one of the premier tall midfielders in this year’s draft crop and has plenty of upside.
Hailed as the best tall midfielder in this year’s crop coming into the season, Johnson is one with a point of difference and a good amount of development left. The 193cm Subiaco prospect continues to put on size and can win the ball at the coalface, but stands out most with his smooth movement in traffic and clean skills around the ground. He suits an in-vogue modern day prototype and will inevitably yield comparisons to some of the currently dominant midfielders over 190cm. Johnson is already well versed in terms of representative duties and was part of Subiaco’s WAFL Colts premiership side in 2020. He also earned a senior debut this year and would have done so earlier if not for injury on the eve of season proper. After his strong form in representative colours, Johnson will be pushing for top 15 honours with a few clubs in for classy midfield types.
17. Josh Goater
Calder Cannons/Vic Metro | Midfielder/Defender
02/06/2003 | 190cm | 79kg
October Ranking: #17
Snapshot: A big-bodied midfielder with explosive athletic traits and clean hands on the inside, Goater is a prospect with great potential and versatility.
Goater lays claim to one of the more impressive athletic profiles in the draft pool, particularly in a power sense. His explosive turn of speed and impressive vertical leap are traits which catch the eye at testing events and are transferred on-field, with the Calder Cannons product able to produce exciting passages of play. He has proven his worth in midfield with good ball winning strength and clean hands on the inside, but can also roll out to a wing, pinch-hit up forward, and has proven his class off half-back. He is another who stakes his claim on high upside and may well rise quickly on draft night within the first round.
18. Campbell Chesser
Sandringham Dragons/Vic Country | Outside Midfielder/Defender
27/04/2003 | 186cm | 83kg
October Ranking: #19
Snapshot: A speedy and productive mover on the outside, Chesser breaks the lines from half-back or the wing but has also shown a good balance in his ball winning.
A third Sandringham Dragons prospect in the top 20, Chesser also lays claim to damaging outside traits – weaponising his run-and-carry and use by foot. While he hails from Lavington, in Murray’s region, the 18-year-old boards at Melbourne Grammar and thus turns out for the Dragons. He is another of his age group who had NAB League experience under his belt prior to 2021, and has stayed true in terms of position to impact off the wing and half-back line. Chesser had only just cracked Sandringham’s stacked midfield in a bid to showcase his balance, having lacked continuity while battling a knee injury earlier in his campaign. Having slid in value, he may well make a club very happy towards the end of round one.
19. Darcy Wilmot
Northern Knights/Vic Metro | Small Defender
31/12/2003 | 183cm | 75kg
October Ranking: #20
Snapshot: Wilmot is a tenacious and brave half-back whose most flashy weapons show on the attack, as he breaks the lines with great speed and ball use.
Wilmot has thrust his name into contention with increasingly impressive performances for the Northern Knights in 2021, as well as an impressive senior debut at local football level. The small-medium defender has all the typical class and running prowess you would expect on the rebound, but is also willing to compete above his size in aerial contests. The 17-year-old still has plenty of development left as a December 31 birth, meaning he only just makes the cut to be eligible for this year’s draft. His run-and-gun style is sure to catch many more eyes as the season continues, with Wilmot a prospect truly on the rise. Expect him to attract interest at the back of round one or very early in round two with a few clubs looking for speed off half-back.
20. Sam Butler
GWV Rebels/Vic Country | Forward/Midfielder
10/02/2003 | 184cm | 76kg
October Ranking: #21
Snapshot: Butler has wonderfully clean hands and searing pace, traits which have translated well from an initial forward role to an eventual midfield venture.
Another prospect with ties at the elite level, Butler is the brother of St Kilda forward, Dan. He is an exciting player in his own right though, with sharp skills by hand and a terrific turn of speed which serve him well in a creative sense. Having proven himself in the forward half, Butler went on to impress with his clean ball winning ability in midfield before injury struck. He missed out on representing Vic Country as an Under 19 having done so at Under 16s level, but is a player who catches the eye and would have been a lock for said honours if the opportunity presented once again. He should be a viable choice within the 20s and was standout at Victoria’s country draft combine.
21. Jacob van Rooyen
Claremont/Western Australia | Tall Forward/Defender
16/04/2003 | 193cm | 91kg
October Ranking: #23
Snapshot: van Rooyen is a tall forward who presents well with physical intent, strong hands and a booming kick, but has also shown great potential as a swingman.
Having been earmarked as potentially Western Australia’s best tall prospect coming into the season, van Rooyen has overcome some adversity en route to recapturing his best form. He was part of Claremont’s WAFL Colts side which went down in last season’s Grand Final, booting 19 goals in 10 games as a bottom-ager. He donned the Black Ducks jersey in 2020’s West Australian All Stars fixtures and was a lock for the AFL Academy intake in 2021. A glandular fever diagnosis halted his progress a touch, but van Rooyen started out the season in the League grade and has shown he is physically a level above the Colts competition. Having returned a ripping representative campaign, he will be right back in first round contention – especially with local clubs lurking for a key forward.
22. Tom Brown
Murray Bushrangers/Vic Country | Medium Defender
30/07/2003 | 186cm | 74kg
September Ranking: #22
Snapshot: A dashing half-back with terrific athleticism in the form of speed and a vertical leap, Brown is a bolting talent who you’ll likely miss if you blink.
While Geelong gained access to sister, Millie via father-daughter rules, Tom Brown is ineligible to be drafted by the Cats under the father-son category as his father Paul falls just short of the 100-game qualification. Nonetheless, the Murray Bushrangers prospect has plenty of eye-catching traits which will help him blaze his own trail. A Vic Country Under 16 and now Under 19 representative, Brown is capable of playing on each line but looks to have found a home across half-back, where his dashing style and overhead marking shine. An ankle injury kept him out for a large chunk of the season, but he since returned and looked raring to break into first round contention, especially after a strong draft combine. Those honours may just be out of reach, but Brown won’t last much longer within round two.
23. Mitchell Knevitt
Geelong Falcons/Vic Country | Inside Midfielder
08/01/2003 | 193cm | 81kg
October Ranking: #28
Snapshot: A big-bodied midfielder with great size and reach, Knevitt dominates at the coalface and impacts around the ground with his strong overhead marking, a feature also sighted up forward.
One who was marked by his teammates as one to watch during preseason, Knevitt has taken full advantage of finally getting the opportunity to impress with some outstanding form in 2021. The 193cm midfielder provides range and size which proves difficult to combat at the coalface, as he digs in to win contested ball and stands up in tackles while dishing it out. The Geelong Falcons product is also developing his outside game and is athletically sound, getting to more contests around the ground and making an impact with his contested marking. He fits the modern day midfielder-forward prototype given his built and ability, with the performances to match his potential now coming to the fore. Another who registered some eye-catching testing numbers, some clubs will have Knevitt featuring as high as the top 20.
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24. Zac Taylor
Calder Cannons/Vic Metro | Small Midfielder/Forward
31/01/2003 | 180cm | 74kg
October Ranking: #25
Snapshot: A crafty small prospect with outstanding vision, skills and decision making, Taylor has no trouble finding the ball and makes things happen when in possession.
A Vic Metro representative at Under 16 level, Taylor proved undeniable for repeat honours in the Under 19 grade this year given his outstanding NAB League form. The 180cm midfielder-forward combines toughness with high level smarts; not afraid to work hard to win his own ball, but most effective when able to accumulate and tear sides apart with his sharp skills. The 18-year-old has a great turn of speed and looks to be creative with each possession, breaking into space with his zip before hitting targets further afield. He is particularly reliable by foot and puts up ultra-consistent numbers each week, making him a deserved entrant to the top 25 and one who should find a home within the second round. He capped his season with Calder’s best and fairest nod and NAB League team of the year honours.
25. Josh Fahey
GWS GIANTS Academy/Allies | Medium Defender
11/11/2003 | 186cm | 76kg
October Ranking: #29
Snapshot: A run-and-gun rebounding defender who gives his all and boasts a raking left-foot kick, Fahey is arguably this year’s leading Northern Academy talent.
Our top-ranked Northern Academy prospect in 2021, Fahey is clearly the best prospect out of the Allies crop and a genuine top 25 contender. He returned to the GWS GIANTS Academy program this year to confirm his eligibility as an academy product, having previously shifted to Queensland and joined forces with the Gold Coast SUNS Academy. The Queanbeyan native has impressed onlookers across both states with his dash out of defence and penetrative kicking, both damaging weapons for a player of his position. He has earned a VFL berth with the GIANTS and was named best afield in April’s AFL Academy showcase against Geelong VFL. Having set a blistering 2km time, Fahey proved he is in shape despite a lack of football in 2021 and raring to go with a bid likely to come just outside of the first round.
26. Matthew Roberts
South Adelaide/South Australia | Midfielder/Forward
31/07/2003 | 183cm | 81kg
October Ranking: #18
Snapshot: Roberts is a hard-working and consistent midfielder with senior experience who racks up plenty of the ball, but can also rotate forward.
Another member of South Adelaide’s football factory, Roberts’ form over the last few seasons has seen him prove difficult to deny of first round contention. Like Horne, he represented South Australia at back-to-back Under 16 carnivals, playing a key role as he split his time between midfield and the forwardline. The 18-year-old broke through for his League debut in 2021, initially skipping the Reserves grade after a scintillating start in the Under 18s competition. As one of the hardest and smartest runners in the draft crop, looks towards fellow left-footer Marcus Bontempelli as a model for his own game. His ability to hit the scoreboard matches said archetype, though Roberts also has a hard edge and competitiveness which sets him apart. Of late, he has been a real slider having not quite delivered at representative level, but could reward a club greatly should he indeed slip outside the first round. Not many prospects this year have his level of senior experience.
27. Jesse Motlop
South Fremantle/Western Australia | Small Forward/Midfielder
23/11/2003 | 177cm | 77kg
October Ranking: #26
Snapshot: A highly skilled small forward with great goal sense, speed and smarts, Motlop comes from good pedigree and can make his presence known in a flash.
Another player with ties to the elite level, Motlop is the son of former Port Adelaide and North Melbourne forward Daniel, but is ineligible for father-son selection. He is part of Fremantle’s NGA, though it will be difficult for the Dockers to secure his services via bidding as Metro-based WA prospects can only be matched after pick 40. To any club, Motlop offers an exciting mix of speed and skill as a small forward, able to find the goals regularly with clever finishes while also providing forward pressure. An Aquinas College student, he topped the PSA goalkicking charts last year as a bottom-ager and has cracked the WAFL League grade this season, spending more time in midfield against his peers. He featured in South Fremantle’s top flight finals run and should earn second round honours just a couple of days after his 18th birthday.
28. Blake Howes
Sandringham Dragons/Vic Metro | Forward/Wing
07/04/2003 | 190cm | 79kg
October Ranking: #27
Snapshot: One of the best athletes available in this year’s draft, Howes boasts a terrific aerial game but also competes well at ground level and shows promising versatility.
Howes is a player who featured in our top 25 at various points in the year and should be well known to keen draft watchers. He was an All Australian at Under 16 level, plying his trade as a high-marking medium forward with wonderful athleticism and clean hands. While he started the year off in that usual forward post, Howes has since shown his versatility with a shift to the wing and is a classic high-ceiling type of prospect. He was included in this year’s initial AFL Academy intake and continued to back up that selection with form fitting of his potential as a mainstay in the Sandringham Dragons’ side. His mix of speed, endurance, and aerial nous point towards massive potential and he’ll be hard to overlook in round two.
29. Jack Williams
East Fremantle/Western Australia | Tall Forward/Ruck
01/12/2003 | 195cm | 93kg
October Ranking: #24
Snapshot: Williams is a versatile tall prospect who thrives aerially and consistently kicks goals up forward, while also rotating through the ruck or even to defence.
One of the bolting key position players in this year’s draft pool, Williams has been in sensational form at WAFL Colts level. The 195cm East Fremantle talent has shown his best form as a forward in 2021, booting 40 goals in 15 WAFL Colts games and showcasing his exceptional aerial ability. While he has been swung into attack this season, Williams can also pinch-hit in the ruck and is accustomed to defensive roles too. His clear versatility and upside saw him selected in this year’s AFL Academy intake, and he showed good signs in the academy’s showcase fixture against Geelong VFL. Although he stepped up in key moments as East Fremantle again made the preliminary final stage, Williams is a tall who may slide a touch on the second draft night.
30. Toby Conway
Geelong Falcons/Vic Country | Ruck
24/04/2003 | 205cm | 97kg
October Ranking: NR
Snapshot: A physically ready ruck whose craft is sound at the stoppages, Conway also has a strong endurance base and is developing his work around the ground.
The number one pure ruck choice among this year’s draft crop, Conway comes into his own in exactly those battles. He is smart in his craft and strong in the contest, winning his fair share of hitouts across multiple levels – for the Falcons, Vic Country, and AFL Academy. Having come through the pathway as an Under 16 All Australian, the 205cm bigman is now adding strings to his bow with developing impact around the ground in the form of contested marking and stints up forward. Given he is arguably the leading player in his position, especially amid the raft of midfield options, Conway may well find a home within the top 30.
31. Judson Clarke
Dandenong Stingrays/Vic Country | Small Forward/Midfielder
17/10/2003 | 180cm | 70kg
October Ranking: NR
Snapshot: Clarke is a zippy small forward/midfielder who can light up the game in a flash with his forward run, tricky agility, and eye for goal.
While his exploits were on full show earlier in the year, Clarke stamped his credentials with a breakout performance in the Under 19 Victorian trials, bagging five goals in a starring display. The crafty Dandenong Stingrays product represented Vic Country at Under 16 level and continued to show promising glimpses both in the NAB League and at school footy level. He is nimble in possession with a mix of speed and agility, and looks to make things happen in the front half with creative energy and smarts at the fall of the ball. Clarke often finishes his work with spearing left-foot kicks, making for an exciting package as far as small prospects go. While he can roll through midfield, the 17-year-old looks most damaging up forward and can cement his spot here with more eye-catching big game showings. His surge mentality suits the modern game and will likely attract second round interest.
32. Rhett Bazzo
Swan Districts/Western Australia | Tall Defender/Forward
17/10/2003 | 195cm | 81kg
October Ranking: NR
Snapshot: A key defender with swingman capabilities, Bazzo is fantastic in his aerial judgement and clean with ball in hand.
Another of Western Australia’s many promising key position prospects, Bazzo made his name as a defender but made an early shift forward in 2021. As he did in the AFL Academy showcase, the Swan Districts product eventually reverted back to that defence post during club and state representative duties, but shows promise at either end with his sound marking and use of the ball. He is another who claimed Under 16 All Australian honours in 2019, making him a well known quantity and one with plenty of class. Bazzo won this year’s WAFL Colts premiership with Swans, while also turning out for Guildford Grammar in the PSA Football competition. With talls at a premium, Bazzo may push the top 30 but arguably sits just outside it on value.
33. Mitch Owens
Sandringham Dragons/Vic Metro | Wing/Utility
24/09/2003 | 190cm | 85kg
October Ranking: NR
Snapshot: A fast-developing utility with explosive athletic traits who puts in a shift running both ways, and catches the eye with gutsy aerial efforts.
One of a couple of St Kilda Next Generation Academy (NGA) prospects pushing for Top 30 contention is Owens, a rising talent out of the Sandringham Dragons. Having grown 15cm since his Under 16s campaign, the 18-year-old has developed into a dynamic utility who can play on either side of midfield and at both ends of the ground. His aerial work is impressive at 190cm and his gutsiness overhead translates to similarly relentless defensive effort. In one of the great opportunity snatches of 2021, Owens was a late call-up to this year’s Vic Metro vs. Vic Country Under 19 Challenge match and took full toll, collecting 29 disposals and seven marks in a breakout performance which put his name in lights. The Saints will sweat on clubs who value him as highly as the top 15-20, and will surely match a bid thereafter under the new bidding rules.
34. Connor Macdonald
Dandenong Stingrays/Vic Country | Inside Midfielder/Small Forward
13/01/2003 | 184cm | 77kg
October Ranking: NR
Snapshot: A player who has no trouble finding plenty of the footy, Macdonald works at speed going both ways and can also hit the scoreboard.
One of the more consistent accumulating midfielders in this year’s crop is Macdonald, who has developed into a very reliable inside type after cutting his teeth on the outside and up forward. The Dandenong Stingrays product blends speed with a high work rate, which sees him find the ball in all parts of the ground, but particularly as a clearance winner. He made his NAB League debut in 2019 after representing Vic Country’s Under 16 side, going on to earn the same honours as an Under 19 this year. His current skillset and should see clubs overlook his areas of improvement when looking to pounce just after the 30-mark, where the 184cm talent has hovered all season.
35. Corey Warner
East Fremantle/Western Australia | Balanced Midfielder
07/10/2003 | 182cm | 74kg
October Ranking: #30
Snapshot: Warner is a hard-running midfielder who can play both inside and out, breaking forward with intent and a penetrating left foot kick.
The younger sibling of Sydney’s Chad skippered Aquinas College this year and managed four League games for East Fremantle, plying his trade out on the wing. He traded that outside role for one at the centre bounces when playing against his peers, averaging 24 disposals in nine Colts games and matching that average across his three finals appearances. While somewhat dependant on his left side, Warner gets good penetration on the end of bursting runs forward, carrying away from midfield with purpose. He also made a State Under 19s appearance in 2021 and has risen steeply into second round contention.
36. Angus Sheldrick
Claremont/Western Australia | Midfielder
7/11/2003 | 179cm | 88kg
October Ranking: NR
Snapshot: A strong inside bull who bustles through congestion, and provides consistent ball winning output through sheer will and determination.
Over a two-year period where so many draft prospects have lacked the opportunity, some have taken each of theirs remarkably well. One such AFL hopeful is Sheldrick, who has played himself into top 30 contention on the back of a remarkably consistent body of work. The Claremont product and Geez Church Grammar skipper had an early finish to his 2020 campaign, but has shown marked resilience and a strong rate of development in 2021 through his desire to work and improve. He is a player who hardly has a bad outing and can be turned to in the trenches, producing game-winning efforts by making the best of what he has. From a fringe state Under 19s squad member to squad barometer, Sheldrick’s top-age season has proven a memorable one.
37. Marcus Windhager
Sandringham Dragons/Vic Metro | Midfielder/Forward
16/05/2003 | 183cm | 82kg
October Ranking: NR
Snapshot: An explosive midfielder with clean hands and a great turn of speed who can also roll forward and hit the scoreboard.
St Kilda’s top NGA members have supporters and list managers alike sweating this season, and Windhager is one of them. The Sandringham Dragons product proved somewhat of a surprise packet this year having undergone a knee reconstruction in 2020, showcasing a high rate of development both for the Dragons and with Haileybury College in the APS Football competition. His elite basketball background is highlighted by clean handling and a powerful turn of speed, both of which he uses at the stoppages and at either end of the ground. He has a value around the top 30 and looks likely to receive a bid somewhere within the second round.
38. Cooper Murley
Norwood/South Australia | Midfielder/Forward
20/06/2003 | 178cm | 70kg
October Ranking: NR
Snapshot: A damaging attacking runner who can play on both sides of midfield and up forward, Murley looks to hurt the opposition with speed and skill.
Murley has been one of the more unlucky draft prospects in 2021, touted early on as a first round candidate before enduring a top-age campaign riddled by multiple injuries. Having been included in this year’s AFL Academy, Murley missed out on representing the squad and later his state, but managed four Reserves and Under 18s games apiece with Norwood. The lightly built 18-year-old is a weaponous forward runner, able to get out the back with speed or carry the ball himself on the attack. His skills also carve up the opposition, but Murley was unable to properly build on promising under-age showings and now looms as a potential steal down the pecking order.
39. Lachlan Rankin
Oakleigh Chargers/Vic Metro | Medium Utility
5/02/2003 | 182cm | 68kg
October Ranking: NR
Snapshot: A versatile prospect with high-level smarts and evasion, Rankin showcases clean skills in every third of the ground.
A mainstay throughout the elite talent pathway, Rankin has picked up plenty of representative honours along his junior footballing career. The versatile Oakleigh Chargers product was part of Vic Metro’s Under 16s and 19s campaigns, while also earning a late call-up to the AFL Academy squad in April and being named in the 2021 APS Football Merit Team. The 18-year-old’s clean hands and skills are indicative of his pure footballing talent, backed by clever evasive technique and a terrific sense of surrounding. He only managed four NAB League games this year, also turning out for Caulfield Grammar, but has shown plenty of form at high levels to prove his class in a variety of roles. Somewhat of an underrated prospect, clubs may look towards his natural ability in the second to third round.
40. Kai Lohmann
GWV Rebels/Vic Country | Medium Forward
5/02/2003 | 185cm | 76kg
October Ranking: NR
Snapshot: A highly athletic forward capable of the mercurial, Lohmann combines speed and a springy vertical leap to produce highlight reel plays.
Rounding out Rookie Me Central’s top 40 for 2021 is Lohmann, one of this year’s most exciting raw talents. He is one some recruiters have around the top 25 mark, but others see as fitting in a touch further down. The 18-year-old represented Vic Country at Under 16 level in 2019 and made the Under 19 squad this year, producing promising form for the Rebels across nine NAB League outings. His athleticism is what catches the eye most and as a player who handles the ball cleanly, Lohmann is not afraid to make things happen by taking the game on.
https://central.rookieme.com/afl/power-rankings/2021-november/
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From tough ball-winners to athletic beasts and the pool’s best kick, midfielders are set to dominate the top-end of this year’s draft.
And with the 2022 crop stacked with key-position talent, clubs are ready to pounce on their next midfield star.
Likely No. 1 pick Jason Horne-Francis and Nick Daicos sit atop the class, while clubs are trying to position themselves in order to get their hands on Sandringham’s Finn Callaghan.
But the prospects get a little more difficult to split after that, with clubs sharing different views on some players.
Dan Batten and Jordan Pinto profile their top 15.
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Jason Horne-Francis
South Adelaide/SA
Balanced midfielder, 184cm, 77kg
Clubs who could suit: North Melbourne
Horne-Francis has it all. And it’s why North Melbourne recruiter Scott Clayton believes “he is as good as any No. 1 in any year”. Horne-Francis is strong on the inside, but also electrifying away from the contest, boasting a mix of speed, evasiveness and terrific hands overhead. On top of the elite traits, which have been compared to those of Patrick Dangerfield and Nat Fyfe, Horne-Francis is, arguably, the most-competitive player in the draft pool. The 24-disposal, three-goal performance in the SANFL preliminary final, which kept South Adelaide in the game, was the icing on the cake of a spectacular under-age career.
THE STAT: In the SANFL finals series, 39 - or 67% - of the 18-year-old’s 58 possessions were won in a contest.
Nick Daicos
Oakleigh Chargers/Vic Metro/Collingwood father-son
Balanced midfielder, 183cm, 72kg
Clubs who could suit: Collingwood
Daicos would have been right in contention for Collingwood’s side this year after turning heads for the Magpies in a VFL practice game during the pre-season and dominating every game he played at under-18 level. The son of Collingwood legend Peter Daicos and brother of current Magpie Josh is a prolific and classy prospect with an elite kick, fantastic poise and superb goal sense. This array of traits will allow him to be used as a dangerous small forward, a tidy ball-winning midfielder or a distributing defender at the next level. Daicos was best-on-ground by the length of the Flemington straight in the Victorian Challenge match in July, featuring some of the best draft hopefuls in the pool, amassing 41 disposals including 23 kicks, 10 marks, six clearances and two majors. The Chargers product is expected to attract a top-three bid in the national draft later this month, which the Magpies will be able to match after stockpiling points during the trade period.
THE STAT: In the NAB League, Daicos averaged 35.8 disposals (ranked first in the competition), 22.2 kicks (second), 23 uncontested possessions (first), 7.4 score involvements, 5.8 clearances, two goals (fifth) and 159 Champion Data ranking points across his five matches.
Finn Callaghan
Sandringham Dragons/Vic Metro
Balanced midfielder, 189cm, 82kg
Clubs who could suit: North Melbourne, GWS, Adelaide, Gold Coast, Hawthorn, Fremantle
Callaghan has all the traits to be the perfect modern-day midfielder at the next level. He’s tall, quick, brilliant in traffic, can win the ball on the inside and outside, and boasts a penetrating right-foot. The game appears to slowdown when Callaghan has the ball in tight spaces, and he makes great decisions on the back of it. After spending most of his junior career on the outside, Callaghan is equally as damaging away from the contest and, in no surprise, clubs inside the top 10 have already made a play for the Giants’ pick two, knowing Callaghan, who projects as taller version of Giants star Josh Kelly, is unlikely to be available long after that.
THE STAT: After moving into the Dragons’ centre-bounce brigade, Callaghan averaged 30 disposals, 16.7 kicks and 136.7 ranking points across three matches.
Ben Hobbs
GWV Rebels/Vic Country
Inside midfielder, 183cm, 80kg
Clubs who could suit: Richmond, Hawthorn, Fremantle, Adelaide
Hobbs is a contested beast who does his best work in congestion, consistently winning clearances and feeding it out to runners on the outside, and applying immense tackling pressure. The Rebels midfielder was the strongest performer in both his matches for Vic Country, finishing with 37 disposals and two goals in the trial match and 26 touches, eight clearances and a goal in the Challenge clash. Likened to tough Giants on-baller Jacob Hopper, Hobbs has been earmarked as a future captain for his highly-regarded character and shapes as a prospect who can make an impact from the get-go in 2022.
THE STAT: Without including his an injury-affected match, Hobbs averaged 147.6 ranking points, 29.2 disposals, 12.8 contested possessions, six clearances and six tackles in five games for the Rebels this year.
Josh Ward
Northern Knights/Vic Metro
Balanced midfielder, 181cm, 74kg
Clubs who could suit: Gold Coast, Hawthorn, Richmond, Fremantle, Adelaide
The left-footer is a prolific ball-winner, who is clean and clever at the contest, and damaging away from it, drawing comparison to Bombers star Zach Merrett. Ward, who was named captain of the NAB League Team of the Year, boasts elite endurance and was one of the most-consistent midfielders, across multiple levels, in Victoria this year. Ward starred for Northern Knights, saving his best for a dual against Daicos – which he won – before tallying 29 disposals, eight clearances and two goals for Vic Metro in June. He looks to be one of the safe bets in the top 10.
THE STAT: In his final three appearances in the NAB League, Ward averaged 34 disposals, 14 contested possessions, eight score involvements, six clearances and 149 ranking points.
Nasiah Wanganeen-Milera
Glenelg/SA
Wingman, 188cm, 70kg
Clubs who could suit: Adelaide, Essendon, Fremantle, Port Adelaide, St Kilda
After a brilliant national championships, where he danced around opponents before finding a teammate with precision, Wanganeen-Milera is now right in the top-10 mix. On top of his unrivalled foot skills, the nephew of Port Adelaide and Essendon great Gavin Wanganeen boasts plenty of X-factor, incredible balance, clean hands and speed. There have been some questions over the contested side of his game, but, as the year went on at reserves level, he proved they might be a touch overstated.
THE STAT: In the SANFL reserves grand final, Wanganeen-Milera won 11 of his 20 possessions in a contest and recorded a season-high seven tackles.
Neil Erasmus
Subiaco/WA
Inside midfielder, 192cm, 80kg
Clubs who could suit: Essendon, Fremantle, St Kilda, West Coast
Playing as a forward in his bottom-age year, Erasmus put himself on the AFL radar with a standout four-goal performance in Subiaco’s WAFL Colts premiership win. It’s his rapid development into a genuine ball-winning midfielder – at the contest and away from – however, that has seen the teenager rocket into the top-10 mix. And Erasmus’ vertical leap, overhead marking and work ethic stand out among midfielders in this year’s pool – especially at 192cm. Injury ended his season early, forcing him out of the national carnival but, despite a slight concern over his field kicking, Erasmus is likely to be the first WA player selected in the national draft.
THE STAT: As a midfielder in the WAFL Colts, Erasmus rated elite for ranking points (164), disposals (28), kicks (17), contested possessions (16), marks (7.8), intercept marks (2.8), intercept possessions (6.8), clearances (6.3) and score assists (2).
Josh Goater
Calder Cannons/Vic Metro
Inside midfielder/defender, 190cm, 79kg
Clubs who could suit: West Coast, Richmond, Fremantle, Brisbane, Essendon, Adelaide
Goater starred for Calder as a rebounding, intercept defender late in the NAB League season, consistently thwarting opposition attacks and setting up play from the back-half. But, after stints through the middle, and a standout performances for Vic Metro on the inside, it’s Goater’s potential as 190cm midfielder, who’s brilliant in traffic and can explode out the other side, that has clubs excited. He’s athletic, powerful and is just as impressive springing out of a contest as he is flying for a mark in the air. Can he improve his endurance enough to become the player clubs hope he can be at the next level?
THE STAT: Goater took eight intercept marks in his final two games in the NAB League and tallied 26 disposals, eight clearances and 10 handball-receives playing in the midfield for Vic Metro in June’s trial match.
Matthew Johnson
Subiaco/WA
Balanced midfielder, 192cm, 82kg
Clubs who could suit: Fremantle, St Kilda, West Coast, Essendon, Port Adelaide
Johnson boosted his draft stocks significantly in the second half of the season with barnstorming results on and off the field. The tall midfielder shone brightly in the grand final curtain-raiser for Western Australia, winning the best-on-ground medal and setting up the matchwinning goal as he tallied 20 disposals, nine tackles and five clearances against South Australia. He showcased his elite footy IQ and decision making in the opening national championships in an outside role, and enjoyed an impressive finals series at WAFL Reserves level for Subiaco against senior bodies. Johnson capped his year with a third-placed finish in the agility test (8.061-seconds) at the AFL Draft Combine, also placing seventh in both the vertical (72cm) and running vertical tests (89cm), and recording an elite 20m sprint time. Johnson’s blend of class, height and athletic attributes sets him apart from other midfielders in the pool.
THE STAT: In his final four WAFL Reserves matches for Subiaco, Johnson averaged 22.5 touches, 14.5 kicks at 65.5 per cent efficiency and five tackles per game – three of those games being finals.
Tyler Sonsie
Eastern Ranges/Vic Metro
Balanced midfielder, 181cm, 77kg
Clubs who could suit: Sydney, Melbourne, Fremantle, Richmond, Hawthorn, GWS
A dynamic and creative midfield prospect who hits the scoreboard, Sonsie showcased these traits in an exciting VFL debut for Box Hill. The Ranges midfielder suffered an ill-timed ankle injury in the middle of the year, sidelining him for the two Victorian draft representative matches. His return from injury corresponded with the end of the NAB League season as it was cut short by the Covid pandemic. Regarded as a potential top-10 talent entering the season, Sonsie is a clever and precise ball user with clean hands and speed. Sonsie also has smarts around goal, kicking five goals in as many matches in the NAB League, and he is tipped to start his career in the forward arc. Clubs could snap up a bargain if he slides into the late first-round range.
THE STAT: Sonsie finished with 24 disposals, six clearances, five tackles and two goals in his VFL debut for Box Hill.
Matthew Roberts
South Adelaide/SA
Inside midfielder, 183cm, 81kg
Clubs who could suit: Port Adelaide, Richmond, Sydney, Fremantle
After dominating his own age group, Roberts earned promotion to South Adelaide’s senior side this year, where he, again, got the job done – albeit it in a different role across half-forward – booting six goals in seven senior matches. But Roberts, who boasts a neat left-foot kick, is one of the smartest midfielders in the draft. He’s tough, competitive, makes good decisions and an elite footy IQ means he’s always in the right spot. There is some concern over his athleticism, and others may have better highlight reels, but the ready-made Roberts has more runs on the board than most.
THE STAT: In his 10 SANFL under-18 matches over the past two years, Roberts averaged 28 disposals and 160 ranking points.
Zac Taylor
Calder Cannons/Vic Metro
Balanced midfielder, 180cm, 74kg
Clubs who could suit: Hawthorn, Richmond, Geelong, Melbourne
Taylor is composed under pressure, agile on his feet and has brilliant hands at stoppages. But what separates him from the other midfielders in the first-round mix is his kicking. Taylor rarely wastes the ball by foot and makes great decisions going inside-50 – and we all know clubs love the money kick. As he showed late in the NAB League, the ball is in his hands a lot, too, with Taylor finishing the season with disposal tallies of 32, 34 and 37, while also recording 22 disposals and five inside-50s for Vic Metro in July.
THE STAT: Highlighting his ability to find a teammate in the forward half, Taylor recorded nine score assists in his final four matches. His average of 1.6 for the year rated elite as a midfielder.
Mitch Knevitt
Geelong Falcons/Vic Country
Inside midfielder, 193cm, 81kg
Clubs who could suit: Richmond, Hawthorn, West Coast, Sydney, Geelong
A hulking inside midfielder, Knevitt is more than meets the eye, showcasing his elite speed-endurance mix at the AFL Draft Combine. Knevitt finished third in the 2km time-trial (6 mins 18 seconds) and tenth in the 20m sprint with a blistering time of 2.976-seconds. These results strengthened his claims as a second-round selection after a dominant finish to the year, where he proved he can be a dangerous threat up forward with his strong overhead marking, as well as a prolific ball-winner. Senior footy looks to be in his sights next year with his size and running capacity.
THE STAT: Knevitt averaged 30.3 disposals, 14.7 contested possessions, 6.7 tackles, 6.3 marks, 6.0 inside 50s and 150.7 ranking points from his last three NAB League matches for the Falcons.
Mitchito Owens
Sandringham Dragons/Vic Metro/St Kilda Next Generation Academy
Balanced midfielder, 190cm, 85kg
Clubs who could suit:St Kilda, Sydney, Port Adelaide, Melbourne
Owens announced himself on the big stage after a late call-up for the Victorian Challenge match, winning 29 disposals, hitting the target with 16 of his 17 handballs and kicking a goal for Vic Metro. The performance encapsulated his unflappable nature, having been axed from the Sandringham Dragons program as a 16-year-old and working his way back into the fold. Owens’s rapid improvement is off he back of significant growth spurt, with the hardworking midfielder viewed as a player with upside. He is tied to St Kilda as a Next Generation Academy prospect due to his mother being born in Japan. New NGA rules preclude the Saints from matching a bid inside the top-20, which Owens could attract on the first night of the draft on November 24.
THE STAT: Owens went at 76.3 per cent disposal efficiency across the NAB League season despite winning close to half of his possessions in a contest.
Angus Sheldrick
Claremont/WA
Inside midfielder, 179cm, 84kg
Clubs who could suit: Hawthorn, Geelong, Richmond, Sydney, West Coast
Sheldrick has bolted into top-30 contention following an emphatic finish to the year, culminating in a best afield display in the final national championships clash against South Australia. The bullocking inside midfielder finished with a game-high 29 disposals, 14 contested possessions, 11 clearances, five tackles and a match-sealing goal in the dying minutes against South Australia. His immense WAFL Colts finals series as a goalkicking midfielder for Claremont was telling, considering he played under duress with two bad corkies. Sheldrick has improved his kicking and endurance as the year has gone on, which had been question marks over his game. His scoreboard impact and ability to rise to the occasion in big moments adds to his appeal.
THE STAT: Sheldrick booted six goals and averaged 23 disposals, 16 contested possessions, six tackles and a whopping 161.3 ranking points in the WAFL Colts finals series.
https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/draft/afl-draft-2021-the-top-prospects-in-every-position/news-story/800b4757bf96d0d768b9596fe26ad99f
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Like the sound of Kai Lohman with our last pick in the 20s.
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An update phantom draft from the BF draft watcher PMBangers:
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PICK 9 - Richmond
Josh Gibcus | GWV Rebels/ VIC Country
196 cm | 87 kg
Tall Defender
Gibcus fills the hole of a young tall defender on the Richmond list, and the opportunity to give him a year or two to develop whilst Tarrant is in the Best 22 is something that'd be hard to pass up for the Tigers imo. From a quick browse they've got Biggy and Miller as depth which doesn't really fill me with confidence, I think Gibcus is higher ceiling and higher floor than both.
The bottom end of his development in my opinion is something similar to a Nick Haynes, capable one-on-one but better when allowed to drift around a bit, and not the most damaging ball user, but I think Gibcus has more athleticism than Haynes and doesn't let a defensive focus effect his intercepting as much.
Also considered Erasmus and Johnson, but they've got RCD as a developing tall mid who I liked in his performances this year, plus 3 picks at the abck end of the 20's to fill midfield holes
PICK 17 - Richmond
Zac Taylor | Calder Cannons/ VIC Metro
180 cm | 74 kg
Midfielder
https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/pmbangers-2021-draft-board.1258182/post-69063977
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ANOTHER VERSION WITH DIFFERENT PICK SWAP IDEAS by BF draft watcher Smythe (ed: with bonus CAPS!!! :P)
ROUND ONE
1- (https://images.bigfootymedia.com/smilies/aflclubs/north-melbourne-emoji.png) - HORNE FRANCIS
ADEL GIVE GWS PICK 4*(CURRENTLY) AND FUTURE FIRST FOR PICK 2 AND FUTURE FIRST
NO BRAINER, GIVE THE KID HIS NAB PORTFOLIO ALREADY
2 - (https://images.bigfootymedia.com/smilies/aflclubs/collingwood-magpies-emoji.png) - DAICOS (ADEL BID)
WB - TRADE 23*(CURRENTLY) AND FUTURE 2ND TO GEEL FOR FUTURE FIRST
AGAIN A NO BRAINER, THEY MAY ACTUALLY MATCH IT BEFORE THE BID IS FINISHED BEING READ OUT
3 - (https://images.bigfootymedia.com/smilies/aflclubs/adelaide-crows-emoji.png) - CALLAGHAN
ADEL MOVE UP AND GET A BIG MID WHO IS AN EXCELLENT MOVER
4 - (https://images.bigfootymedia.com/smilies/aflclubs/western-bulldogs-emoji.png) - DARCY (GC BID)
ANOTHER NO BRAINER, NOW TO TRADE BACK INTO THIS YEAR
5 - (https://images.bigfootymedia.com/smilies/aflclubs/gold-coast-suns-emoji.png) - GIBCUS
SUNS GO FOR A KPD WHO IS THE BEST AVAILABLE FROM THEIR LIST OF NEEDS
6 - (https://images.bigfootymedia.com/smilies/aflclubs/gws-giants-emoji.png) - ANDREW
GWS GET THEIR MAN AFTER TRADING BACK
7- (https://images.bigfootymedia.com/smilies/aflclubs/hawthorn-hawks-emoji.png) - HOBBS
COULD BE WARD, IM PUTTING HOBBS THOUGH, AS HE FEELS TO BE THE TYPE OF PLAYER SAM MITCHELL LOVES, WARD AND SONSIE ARE SIMILAR TYPES IN A WAY BUT HOBBS WOULD ADD THAT POD IN THE MIDFIELD, NOW, WILL SONSIE SLIDE LIKE I THINK HE WILL AND CAN THEY GET HIM ALSO?
8 - (https://images.bigfootymedia.com/smilies/aflclubs/fremantle-dockers-emoji.png) - AMISS
BEFORE ANYONE ELSE TAKES THE KPF FREO ACTUALLY DO NEED, I HAVE THEM TAKING HIM HERE
9 - (https://images.bigfootymedia.com/smilies/aflclubs/richmond-tigers-emoji.png) - WARD
COULD BE HOBBS HERE, AND MAY WELL BE, EITHER WAY ONE OF THOSE MIDS IS GOING TO RICHMOND I THINK, SO WARD SLIPS NO FURTHER
10 - (https://images.bigfootymedia.com/smilies/aflclubs/fremantle-dockers-emoji.png) - GOATER
A BIG AGILE MID WHO CAN GO FWD WITH A HIGH CEILING, FREO SAYS YES PLEASE
--- RICH GIVE 17 AND 30 TO STK FOR 11 ---
11 - (https://images.bigfootymedia.com/smilies/aflclubs/richmond-tigers-emoji.png) - JOHNSON
I GET THE FEELING ANOTHER BIG MID IS ON RICHMONDS RADAR, BEING A SMOOTH MOVER WHO ALWAYS SEEMS TO CREATE TIME AND SPACE FOR HIMSELF THEY JUMP UP TO GRAB HIM BEFORE HE GOES
12 - (https://images.bigfootymedia.com/smilies/aflclubs/west-coast-eagles-emoji.png) - ERASMUS
BEST AVAILABLE AND A LOCAL WITH TALENT TO BURN, AGAINST TRADITION
CARL GIVE FUTURE FIRST TO ESS FOR 13
13 - (https://images.bigfootymedia.com/smilies/aflclubs/carlton-blues-emoji.png) - RACHELE
A BEST AVAILABLE IN THEIR EYES WHO ALSO SUITS A NEED FOR A SMALL EXCITING FWD THAT CAN ALSO PLAY MID MINUTES
14 - (https://images.bigfootymedia.com/smilies/aflclubs/port-adelaide-power-emoji.png) - DRAPER
BEST AVAILABLE PICK, CAN PLAY MID AND FWD, BEAUTIFUL SKILLSET AND HIGH CEILING
15 - (https://images.bigfootymedia.com/smilies/aflclubs/gws-giants-emoji.png) - SINN
BEST AVAILABLE PICK, GIVEN A FULL YEAR HE MAY HAVE BROKEN TOP 10
16 - (https://images.bigfootymedia.com/smilies/aflclubs/brisbane-lions-emoji.png) - WANGANEEN-MILERA
A SILKY SMOOTH, AGILE MOVING KID WHO RARELY MISSES A TARGET
17 - (https://images.bigfootymedia.com/smilies/aflclubs/st-kilda-saints-emoji.png) - CHESSER
LOCAL BOY WHO IF PLAYING A FULL YEAR COULD BE MUCH HIGHER ON PEOPLES RADAR
18 - (https://images.bigfootymedia.com/smilies/aflclubs/sydney-swans-emoji.png) - KNEVITT
KIND OF A SURPRISE FIRST ROUNDER BUT A PERFECT FIT HERE AT SYDNEY GIVEN HIS POTENTIAL AND HIS SIZE IN THE MIDDLE BEING A POD IN THE FUTURE
19 - (https://images.bigfootymedia.com/smilies/aflclubs/melbourne-demons-emoji.png) - BUTLER
BEST AVAILABLE TO THE PREMIERS AT THIS STAGE AND BUTLER WOULD BE A GREAT GET HERE AT 19
20 - (https://images.bigfootymedia.com/smilies/aflclubs/brisbane-lions-emoji.png) - ALLEER
2ND SURPRISE IN THE FIRST ROUND, BUT BEAR WITH ME, I REALLY STRUGGLED TO PUT THIS HERE, HOWEVER, BRISBANE NEED A KPP OR TWO, I THINK THEY WILL LIKE THE AGILITY AND ATHLETIC PROFILE OF ALLEER MORE THAN THAT OF BAZZO AND JVR, ALL 3 OF WHICH MAY BE TOO EARLY TO CALL OUT HERE BUT I BELIEVE THEY WOULD LIKE WHAT ALLEER HAS TO OFFER MORE THAN THE OTHER TWO. MAYBE THEY TRADE THIS DOWN A FEW SPOTS, LETS FIND OUT
ROUND TWO
--- WB GIVE FREO GEELONGS FUTURE 1ST FOR PICK 21 ---
21 - (https://images.bigfootymedia.com/smilies/aflclubs/western-bulldogs-emoji.png) - WILMOT
AFTER TRADING OUT THEY TRADE BACK IN AND GRAB A BARGAIN HERE IN WILMOT
22 - (https://images.bigfootymedia.com/smilies/aflclubs/north-melbourne-emoji.png) - BAZZO
ADDING YOUTH EVERYWHERE ON THE PARK IS A NEED, BAZZO WOULD BE A GREAT GET TO LEARN THE KPD/INTERCEPT DEF ROLE, COULD GO JVR ALSO
23 - (https://images.bigfootymedia.com/smilies/aflclubs/hawthorn-hawks-emoji.png) - SONSIE
WELL, HE LASTED THIS LONG AND HAWTHORN DO GET THEIR OTHER MAN
24 - (https://images.bigfootymedia.com/smilies/aflclubs/geelong-cats-emoji.png) - BROWN
BEFORE TRADING THEIR NEXT PICK GEELONG GET THEIR BOY
--- GEEL GIVE 25 AND FUTURE 2ND TO PORT FOR FUTURE 1ST ---
25 - (https://images.bigfootymedia.com/smilies/aflclubs/port-adelaide-power-emoji.png) - ROBERTS
HE IS A MID WHO USES HIS SMARTS AND BODY POSITIONING REALLY WELL TO GET CLEARANCES, SET TEAM MATES UP AND GO FWD TO KICK GOALS, NOT OVERLY QUICK BUT VERY CLEAN AND SMART
26 - (https://images.bigfootymedia.com/smilies/aflclubs/hawthorn-hawks-emoji.png) - LONG
ANOTHER ONE HAW LIKE IS LONG AND HE FINISHES OFF HAWTHORNS FUTURE MID TRIPLE THREAT, CAN GO FWD AND KICK GOALS AND GREAT IN THE MIDDLE
27 - (https://images.bigfootymedia.com/smilies/aflclubs/carlton-blues-emoji.png) - MOTLOP
A PURE SMALL FWD AND A SLIPPERY AND SILKY ONE AT THAT, FREO CANNOT MATCH ANY BID UNDER 40, SO THE BLUES GO BANG
28 - (https://images.bigfootymedia.com/smilies/aflclubs/richmond-tigers-emoji.png) - TAYLOR
VERY EFFICIENT USER OF THE BALL AND A SMART FOOTBALLER WHO GIVES 100%, A SMALL FWD/HF TYPE THEY CAN USE WELL WHO CAN ALSO GO INTO THE MIDDLE, WITH JVR STILL ON THE BOARD HE DEFINITELY COULD COME INTO CONSIDERATION
29 - (https://images.bigfootymedia.com/smilies/aflclubs/gws-giants-emoji.png) - FAHEY (RICH BID)
A GOOD BID BY RICHMOND AS IF HE HAD A FULL YEAR HE WOULD BE SO, SO MUCH HIGHER ON THE BOARDS, BUT GWS WILL MATCH THE BID HERE
30 - (https://images.bigfootymedia.com/smilies/aflclubs/richmond-tigers-emoji.png) - HOWES
A TALL WINGMAN WHO REALLY IS A UTILITY OF SORTS, PLAYS WELL FWD, PLAYS WELL ON THE WING AND HIS SKILLSET COULD ALSO BE USED ACROSS HB TOO
--- ESS GIVE STK A FUTURE 2ND AND 56 FOR 31, 66 AND 67 ---
31 - (https://images.bigfootymedia.com/smilies/aflclubs/essendon-bombers-emoji.png) - CLARKE
A CLEVER GOAL KICKING FULL TIME SMALL FWD
32 - (https://images.bigfootymedia.com/smilies/aflclubs/west-coast-eagles-emoji.png) - SHELDRICK
AGAINST TRADITION AGAIN, I KNOW, BUT WITH THE NEED FOR ALL DIFFERENT TYPES OF MIDS, WCE GO LOCAL HERE AND SHELDRICK WOULD SUIT THEM
33 - (https://images.bigfootymedia.com/smilies/aflclubs/st-kilda-saints-emoji.png) - OWENS (GEEL BID)
AFTER TRADING WITH RICHMOND EARLIER AND HAVING A COUPLE OF LATE PICKS STK GET THEIR ACADEMY GUN AND MATCH THE BID
34 - (https://images.bigfootymedia.com/smilies/aflclubs/geelong-cats-emoji.png) - RANKIN
AFTER HAVING A CRACK AT A BIG BULLOCKING FWD/MID IN OWENS, GEELONG GO FOR THE VERY SKILLED, SMART, GOAL KICKING RANKIN.
35 - (https://images.bigfootymedia.com/smilies/aflclubs/sydney-swans-emoji.png) - MURLEY
IF MURLEY PLAYED ALL YEAR, HE WOULD NOT HAVE LASTED THIS LONG IN THE DRAFT, VERY SMOOTH MOVING, EXCELLENT SKILLS AND A TYPICAL SYDNEY TYPE PICK I THINK
36 - (https://images.bigfootymedia.com/smilies/aflclubs/geelong-cats-emoji.png) - HOUGH
HAD A GREAT YEAR AND CAN BE UTILISED ALL OVER THE GROUND AND GIVES GEELONG PLENTY TO PLAY WITH WHICH THEY WOULD LIKE
37 - (https://images.bigfootymedia.com/smilies/aflclubs/adelaide-crows-emoji.png) - RAYSON
EXCEPTIONAL USER AND DELIVERER OF THE BALL WITH LEADERSHIP SKILLS AND A HUNGER FOR THE CONTEST
38 - (https://images.bigfootymedia.com/smilies/aflclubs/geelong-cats-emoji.png) - VAN ROOYEN
COULD REALLY GO ANYWHERE BETWEEN 15 AND 40, BUT I HAVE HIM HERE, AND YOUTH IN THE FWD/DEF ROLES IS A MUST FOR GEELONG AND JVR HAS SHOWN GREAT WORK-RATE IN BEING A UTILITY TYPE THIS YEAR
39 - (https://images.bigfootymedia.com/smilies/aflclubs/port-adelaide-power-emoji.png) - BURGOYNE (WCE BID)
DEFINITELY WORTH A BID AROUND THIS MARK AND WOULD COMPLIMENT THE USERS OF THE BALL IN WCE'S ARMOURY BUT PORT WANT HIM AND WILL MATCH
40 - (https://images.bigfootymedia.com/smilies/aflclubs/west-coast-eagles-emoji.png) - MACDONALD
ANOTHER MID, THIS TIME A VIC MID WHO IS AGGRESSIVE, MID SIZED, AND CAN DRIFT FWD FOR GOALS BUT IS ALSO AN EXCELLENT TWO WAY RUNNER WHO TACKLES HARD
41 - (https://images.bigfootymedia.com/smilies/aflclubs/melbourne-demons-emoji.png) - BALLANTYNE
DEFINITELY A RISER AND A GOOD FIT HERE AT MELBOURNE GIVEN HIS COMMITMENT TO THE GAME AND HIS CRAFT. A SMALLISH UTILITY WHO HAS SKILLS THAT COULD BE USED DOWN BACK UP FWD OR THROUGH THE WINGS. HAS SHOWN HIMSELF TO BE PERFECTING A WING ROLE
https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/smythes-2021-draft-thread.1252879/post-72803513
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VICTORIAN prospects could have a final opportunity to impress recruiters ahead of the NAB AFL Draft with a training day being considered for the week before names are called.
The League is exploring holding separate Metro and Country skills sessions and further medical testing for prospects on Monday, November 15, with the training day remaining subject to approvals.
https://www.afl.com.au/news/686409/footy-starved-vic-prospects-could-get-final-chance-to-shine
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Why recruiters are tipping AFL draft chaos
This year’s AFL draft could have more diamonds in the rough than any in recent memory, a number of recruiters have predicted.
“I’m expecting this draft to be one of those ones where down the track we look back on and think, ‘Geez, how the hell did that happen?’,” Sydney Swans list manager Kinnear Beatson told foxfooty.com.au.
“We just haven’t seen many of the Victorian kids play regularly. Even with the South Australian and WA boys, we haven’t seen them play against great quality.
“I always say to our guys when they’re filing reports about key position players, I have to know who they’ve played on. Especially key position players.”
While making recruiters’ jobs a more volatile affair, the added element of risk to this year’s draft picks does perhaps add some excitability to many more picks beyond the first round than usual.
It’s that excitability that has been largely diluted by the sheer information overload recruiters have had at their disposal before Covid flipped the code on its head.
“I think it’s possible (to find a draft bargain), but I think these days you’ve got so many recruiters, it’s such a different system,” former Carlton recruiter Shane Williamson, who plucked Kade Simpson from the pool with pick No.45 back in 2002, said.
“They know these kids from when they’re about 13 or 14. I think they’d trust themselves to pick the right person, but it’s all opinion.
“There could be someone who gets through but, God, the vision and everything on these kids in Victoria, they’d know them pretty well.”
Like most of the working world has come to terms with web meetings and remote setups, recruiters too have had to settle for remote viewing of potential prospects.
Also like most of the working world, however, the trade offs that come with remote work can make the job harder to execute as had been done previously.
“It’s certainly harder to get a gauge on the talent,” North Melbourne list guru Scott Clayton told foxfooty.com.au.
“WA and SA are okay, although nothing beats live viewing. We’ve watched so much footy from WA and SA but it’s all been off the screen.
“There’s nothing like live viewing - on the screen you don’t see where they’ve come from and where they’re going.
“Some of the guys in their interview process, you ask them how many games they’ve played in the last two years and there’s answers like six or eight.
“Clearly they’ve lost some development - you just hope it’s not too brutal. No one has ever seen a professional athlete being better off for not doing anything.”
Trevor Woodhouse, who was behind the recruitment of Eagles star Jeremy McGovern via the rookie list, expected the top 10 or so picks to remain relatively predictable, but thought from then on it would become a much more intriguing watch.
“I think it could easily be that guys we might have rated from 10 to 20 other clubs might have 30 to 40 or vice versa,” he said.
“We got to a point where come the end of June that the season had sort of warmed up and looked like they were going to play 18s champs and that’s when you can sort of kick off a lot of things, but then the rug got pulled out and the kids didn’t play anymore. It certainly did make a difference”
This year, at least, it seems like there’ll be an element of unpredictability in the draft that has been gradually phased out amid the enormous expansion of football departments in the 21st century so far.
https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-news-2021-draft-preview-value-picks-recruiter-interviews-bargain-players-predictions/news-story/6e53b43d3c41cf45ac04e40212e47ae0
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Gold Coast recruiter:
* Unlikely to trade back.
* Looking at the following names at pick 3: Callaghan, Hobbs, Gibcus, Andrew, Rachele and Ward.
https://www.afl.com.au/news/686441/listen-suns-pick-no-3-plans-who-is-player-x-
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Summary of Top 30 chances according to BF draft watcher Davo-27:
Vic Metro: - the dominant team in the u16's showed against Vic Country they were the team to beat if there was a carnival and i think WA had the talent to put it to them, but their accuracy at goal would have let them down imo and hypothetically Vic Metro would have won this championships imo as a neutral perspective.
Top 30 possibilities:
Callaghan - a player that can find room where not many others can, has good speed, run and carry, but also the best component of agility on field in this draft, his disposal has also been quite good and showed an ability to play inside mid and burst away from packs that got many people excited by the possibilities, the only criticism was that his Geelong VFL performance was very basic and he didnt seem to be playing with any confidence as well as missing the Challenge game so he doesnt have any big game performance you can bank on which is a slight concern
Ward - i liked his games for Northern earlier in the year, but played 2nd fiddle to Ned Long, then when he was given more responsibility as the season went on, really started to show more contested inside footy to add to his run and carry which is a staple of his game, for me was equal best with Goater in the VM Challenge game which really boosted his profile and now has him as a top 10 likely draftee
Goater - i had not seen any of Calders games early which put me behind the 8-ball when it came to Calder talent, but by the time the challenge game came around i was starting to like Goater and Taylor more, although im not as on board with Taylor as some are, Goater i think has a dynamic game style, similar to Sinn and Callaghan who can just fly away from a pack like they have boosters attached to their boots, some queries on his kicking, but i think most players that run as hard as they do usually are sloppy kicks whilst running at full pace, he could definitely use skills work, but he has something special about his game like i think most of the 1st round do
Sinn - a player who had huge wraps and i was expecting to see him cut teams open as a winger and maybe kick bags of goals which he is capable of, but most of the season he spent time off half back with easy poss and not really playing to a standard i would hope/expect of his talents, Callaghan outshun him at club level ect, i didnt like his Vic Metro Challenge Game performance and for Sandringham i thought he had a couple stinkers, which really had me doubt his top 10 credentials, i think he has some serious weapons(speed, long kick, can be a goal kicker) but never had the confidence to put them on show this year in between injury and bad performances, others just went past him tbh.
Owens - saints NGA unless taken top 20, seems likely to go top 20, he has a certain mania to his footy, i had made note of him being a top 6 or so player for Sandringham earlier in the year when i heard nothing about him, but he soon became more noticeable and his Challenge Game was wonderful, i have him as a 2nd rounder, but i can see why a club would reach for him as he could be a good investment with the right attitude and mentals
Long - a very strongly built tall midfielder, think Ollie Wines size, great contested mark and kick for goal, won a lot of contests in the middle then floated forward in the 2nd half of games and average 2-3 goals a game, unfortunately got injured like so many quality players this year so we didnt see how he could influence the state games.
Soligo - a player that doesnt get much recognition and is mostly seen as Sonsie's partner at eastern ranges, but i really liked his Challenge Game and i think it raised his profile enough to push for a top 30 chance possibly, i know he isnt the flavour of the month like some are on bigfooty, but he has performance and speed as an outside mid
Sonsie - a player i was excited to see as he had been fantastic in 2019 as a half forward flanker and part time mid, but the more i saw of his mid game the less i liked, the Geelong VFL game really highlighted something i had been seeing for a couple of weeks prior and that was that he seemed to be hanging out the side of packs looking for a handball receive and doing no defensive work or ball winning of his own, also when he was being fed the footy, he wasnt using the footy in good ways or making good decisions, he also ducked a marking opportunity late in the last quarter when no one was near him, jumping at shadows, which on top of everything else was insult to injury, he then got injured a couple of weeks later, so i think he is a good half forw based on his 2019 form, but his midfield craft is a bit of a concern, his outside game is ok, but he lacks a bit of speed for a smaller guy and his goal kicking is actually quite good, going along with his half forward play
Wilmot - i have loved watching his intercepting half back play for Northern Knights this season, he along with Charlie Molan are the most exciting half backs i think in Vic this season, had an average game for Vic Metro in the Challenge Game, but i think i saw half a dozen Northern Games where he shun as a talent
Taylor - small accumulator inside mid, had an ok Challenge Game, seems to get the ball out the back and kick the ball on angles going forward, i think the talk of him going top 30 is a bit too high, but he has his fans on bigfooty mainly because a few people have said he is an elite kick of the footy, which i dont think he is, but you know how hyperbole is when draft time nears and how the public love eating that stuff up.
other VM Talent that i think proved their worth,
Rankin (always competitive mid/flanker, ok in challenge game and for Oakleigh),
Curtis (played well for VM in the challenge game with 3 goals and a good small forw for Western Jets),
Windhager (if he didnt recently get injured again, this winger might have gone top 20 and ruined the saints chances of getting both NGA's this year),
Caminiti (didnt see him this year but plenty have him going in phantom? so thought i would mention him even though he is a blind spot for me),
Howes (i have been disappointed by Howes for most of the season, was poor as a forward for the first month of the season, was poor in the Vic Metro Challenge Game, apparently had a couple of ok wing games for Sandringham)
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Vic Country: - played Vic Metro and lost convincingly even though they had a solid team on paper and some good depth which shows how strong Vic Metro were this year
Top 30 possibilities:
Hobbs - i know this could be a controversial opinion, but i think Hobbs could be the better inside mid out of him and Daicos(he also has great leadership and interviews well), there have been some queries on speed ect, but his testing says otherwise and he passes the eye test when it comes to speed(he is also a lot tougher than Daicos), he could be the all important engine room clearance mid or the mid that sets up clearances to be more accurate for a team looking to rebuild, was one of the best for Vic Country in their challenge game too.
Rachele - was dominant in 2019 as a half forward being one of if not the best player for Murray, but after 2020 where no games were played and the addition of the bigger bodies of 19 year olds in 2021, he was not as impressive, although his disposal is still top quality and his ability to impact games is still there it was overall disappointing, some clubs are looking at taking him top 10 because they like the qualities he could bring and was so dominant as an underager for Murray and Vic Country, was also one of the best for Vic Country in the challenge game and kicked a monster goal for AFL Academy V Geelong VFL
Knevitt - tall inside mid with great hands in tight and whilst being tackled, doesnt look athletic on field but has impressive combine results, just a smart tall inside mid with a lot of scope to improve, was also one of the best for Vic Country in the challenege game and averaged some big numbers for Geelong prior to the season falling apart
Gibcus - a tall athletic KPD, can go missing at times, can intercept when the ball is in his zone and can defend a tall target like he did on Darcy after he kicked a couple in the challenge game and kept him relatively quiet, although it was more about Vic Metro's targets inside f50 than great defence at times, he is a decent KPD, but seems to get more credit than he deserves imo
Conway - the best ruck ahead of Andrew in the draft pool, i know unpopular opinion but its true, rucked ahead of Andrew who was part time forw part time ruck and was erratic in form, this guy reminds me of a young Big Boy McEvoy but gets very little love as the clear best ruck in the draft pool imo, was one of the best for Vic Country in the challenge game also.
MacDonald - accumulator inside mid for dandenong, has great numbers and plays well to the eye test, was one i noticed early, but was a bit cautious about as i hadnt seen him perform at the state games or in big games yet, but after seeing his performance as one of the best for Vic Country in the challenge game i went all in on him and i think he is the perfect bargain get in the 2nd round
Andrew - very athletic raw ruck, has some moments of special potential, but reminds me of Mabior Chol for Richmond where he would do something special then go through the motions for the rest of the game, interviews well and seems very smart, also has put on 10kgs apparently over the break so he is working on building himself up and if he can find that consistency of effort might be a gem, had a good game for Vic Country in the challenge game.
Molan - had a great game off of half back in 2019 which made me interested to see how he would do in 2021, started slow and i wasnt quite sure about his draft potential until the state games came along and i was convinced, he put in a good game for Vic Country and actually played better for Country than he did for GWV which is a good sign to see a player play better at a higher level
Brown - another half back that is getting a lot of attention for being a non aligned father-son to cat Paul and having great athletic traits at the pre-season combine. i liked him without thinking he was great, relies more on his athleticism than on his footy iq, being talked up a bit higher than i think he should go
Chesser - one of those players that performs better with space, looked fantastic in the u16's champs, but really struggled to find the footy in the u18's challenge game and i think that hurt his prospects a bit, but could still find a place in the top 30 based on athletic traits, good interview ability and potential, saw him play a good game for Sandringham earlier in the year, but overall his 2021 was plagued by injury and poor form.
Clarke - after kicking 6 in the trials there was a lot expected of Judson Clarke, but he really fizzled out in the challenge game hardly getting into the game let alone kicking goals or setting up team mates, played a solid year for Dandenong with his flashy yellow boots, but really is an on again off again player, performance dependant on a particular week(skillful but inconsistent)
Butler - didnt play the challenge game, i saw him for GWV and i remember thinking he went ok, but not really good enough to be talked about as a draft talent, then saw him pop up in some Cal Twomey lists and i was like huh? ok? maybe?, still not really sold along with a couple of others on Cal Twomeys list, then i looked into his stats to see if there was something the eye test missed and other than him having a brother that plays AFL, he has really unimpressive stats for a mid/forw, averages 17 disposals, 3 marks, 5 tackles, 7 goals in 9 games, really underwhelming numbers in the NAB League, but he is a decent player to the eye test, just not that good from my PoV, but hey he could develop so best of luck to him(has speed which some clubs love).
other VC Talent that i think proved their worth,
C.Hamilton (playing off half back, seems tough and skillful),
Morrison (one of the better KPD in the draft pool without the hype of others),
Bergman (have not really liked his play much, here because of the hype around him)
Lohmann (didnt play the challenge game but has great athletic traits and can play),
https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/davo-27s-2021-u18-draft-thread.1252633/post-72812575
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Western Australia: - dominant performances in all areas by WA and they did it without Erasmus missing all 3 games and Amiss for only a game before hurting a knee early in game 2.
Top 30 possibles:
Erasmus - didnt play the series, but looks a great prospect whether it be off half forward or in the midfield where he can create space and deliver into the forward line, fantastic mark for a medium sized player
Amiss - played the 1 game and a bit, kicked a fantastic goal from the boundary 40m out on the run off the left peg, text book leading patterns and strong in the contest, has had a great year kicking over 50 goals in Colts and another couple dozen in state and practice games
Johnson - had a couple of really good games to put his name up there, proving he has what it takes to play good footy in the midfield under contested situations, was one of the better skilled players especially in game 1, lacks a bit of speed, but makes up for it in decision making and quality disposal.
Van Rooyen - played CHB for the most part and was a wall in defence, with spoils, intercepts and drive from defence, he floated forward to kick the winner in game 2 and generally used his athleticism to good affect, also had an outstanding Colts GF in the first quarter and having a few good moments after kicking 3 in the first quarter
Dittmar - was a powerhouse in midfield, not only winning clearances and giving WA momentum, but also tackling hard and doing the defensive duties in midfield, got pushed into the forward line in game 2 and didnt really have an affect before going back into the midfield and influencing the comeback for WA, i rate him higher than most and i genuinely think he is worthy of a top 30 pick
Browne - a player who played a really solid inside/outside game, winning the ball in the coalface, but also providing run and carry, he won plenty of poss, most of his disposals were short, if he had taken more risks and tried to set up more open play he might have performed better?, i really like him and i think he is an outside chance to be top 30, probably more likely to go mid draft though from the Bigfooty Phantom Drafts PoV.
(Hagan, Gilbey, Bevan and Broadbent had good games in the WA V SA series for 2022)
other WA Talent that i think proved their worth,
Tunstill (similar game style to Browne, was a bit more brave with his kicking),
Sheldrick (tough and strong inside mid, big game player, had a great Colts GF performance as well),
Bazzo (had a great series as Full Back, beat most of his opponents and intercepted well),
Hough (played well as either forward or wing, not the most impactful player, but has some talent and came from nowhere),
Jones (had 2 quality games in the series and put his name in draft calculations)
Regan, Benning, Woewodin and Chipper also had good series
players i think hurt their reputation and possible draft chances - Jack Williams
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South Australia: - got soundly beaten in all 3 games against WA, even though the scores werent blow outs, there was a clear difference in talent and depth from WA, some of the SA guys who got hyped earlier in the season were really poor and uncompetitive, the best from the series whether it was 1 or 3 games were imo...
Top 30 possibles:
Wanganeen-Milera was a star for SA in every game and was arguably the best in every game, raised his profile from a pick in the 30/40's where i had him and some didnt even have him in their lists, to now likely first rounder and possible top 10, also was big in the state trials last year and this year, seeming to step up in big games at every opportunity
Roberts - also had a good series, but his lack of athleticism and decision making, also the fact he was not played midfield and had little to no influence in there devalued his performances a little and now he is likely to slide out of the top 10 and maybe even the first round.
(D'Aloia made a huge difference in game 2 and 3 - 2022 talent to keep an eye out for, Lemmey and Michaelanny also showed some talent for 2022)
other SA Talent that i think proved their worth,
Rayson (great runs off of half back),
Ferres (worked hard as one of few tallish forwards who won their position for SA),
Linke (had 2 good games in the midfield after being left out of game 1 i think it was?),
Burgoyne (played an ok role off hbf/wing linking with NWM),
Draper (injured in game 2, played ok in game 1 and was looking good in game 2 before injury hit),
Beecken (had a good game and decent series overall, could be a medium def option)
players from SA i think hurt their reputation and possible draft chances - Hugh Jackson, Blayne O'Loughlin and Hugh Stagg
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Allies: - well theres not much to report on the Allies other than players like Josh Fahey (GWS A) who performed at a very high level against Geelong VFL and in the handful of games he played earlier in the year, then theres the athletic and exciting Sam Banks from Tasmania who provides good run and carry from defence and has shown he can play midfield well, its just unfortunate he hurt his wrist and then the season fell apart like it did, Uwland has been prelisted to GCS list already, Bella is in the open pool for a rookie chance? maybe some guys around the Murray region like Toby Murray could get peoples attention at draft time?
https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/davo-27s-2021-u18-draft-thread.1252633/post-72808040
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Zac Taylor highlights:
(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/2FWGvdk35Yw/maxresdefault.jpg) (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2FWGvdk35Yw)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2FWGvdk35Yw
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Greater Western Sydney is unlikely to entertain any rival offers for its pick No.2 ahead of the draft, according to recruiting boss Adrian Caruso.
https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-news-2021-draft-picks-swaps-latest-selection-news-gws-pick-2-top-prospects-who-will-get-drafted/news-story/681525622d4de4de5fa445663509ed6e
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Josh Rachele has spoken to all 18 AFL clubs ahead of the National Draft, but two teams stood out from the rest during his pre-draft interviews.
“I’ve spoken to all 18 (clubs) and I’ve had four or five double ups as well,” he told SEN Breakfast.
“All of them impressed me. Obviously like everyone, you’d like to go anywhere.
“The mains ones that stood out were probably GWS and Adelaide. Earlier in the year, I had some honest feedback from Adelaide which was good.
https://www.sen.com.au/news/2021/11/03/two-clubs-stood-out-to-potential-top-10-pick-during-pre-draft-interviews/
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Twomey reckons there are 12-13 names who will end up filling the top 10 spots.
Only club that could overlook Finn Callaghan are the Giants at pick 2.
Hawks' pick 5 - linked to mids - Ward, Hobbs. Would surprise if they went tall.
https://www.afl.com.au/video/686563/a-touch-of-tom-mitchell-about-this-talent-saints-pick-no-9-plans
Going by what Twomey said Horne-Francis, Daicos, Darcy, Callaghan, Andrew, Ward, Hobbs, Gibcus, Rachele, Wanganeen-Milera are 10 of the 12-13 names.
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Twomey reckons there are 12-13 names who will end up filling the top 10 spots.
Only club that could overlook Finn Callaghan are the Giants at pick 2.
Hawks' pick 5 - linked to mids - Ward, Hobbs. Would surprise if they went tall.
https://www.afl.com.au/video/686563/a-touch-of-tom-mitchell-about-this-talent-saints-pick-no-9-plans
Going by what Twomey said Horne-Francis, Daicos, Darcy, Callaghan, Andrew, Ward, Hobbs, Gibcus, Rachele, Wanganeen-Milera are 10 of the 12-13 names.
Add Erasmus, Amiss and Johnson to that 10 and you have the 13 names
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From last week:
Heard Roberts interviewed today and he mentioned Richmond and GWS are the 2 clubs not to have interviewed him at all. When he pushed he mentioned Hawks had shown most interest.
https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/modernartillery-2021-draft-thread.1273192/post-72750968
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WATCH: The nervous wait is almost over for Tasmania's talented young footballers with the AFL's National Draft to take place later this month.
Half back Sam Banks is expected to be hot property on the night... after meeting with seventeen of the competition's eighteen clubs.
https://twitter.com/brentcostelloe/status/1456531738037866501
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Phantom draft from BF draft watcher ModernArtillery:
This was way more painful than I anticipated and I've spent way more time on this than I'd care to admit. The late picks probably aren't in perfect order but it should be reasonably close.
Round 1
Pick 1 North Melbourne - Jason Horne-Francis
Pick 2 Collingwood - Nick Daicos* (matched bid)
Pick 3 Western Bulldogs - Sam Darcy* (matched bid)
Pick 4 GWS - Josh Gibcus
Pick 5 Gold Coast - Finn Callaghan
I don't think there is anything too shocking here. The order of the bids and then GWS passing on Callaghan to select Gibcus are probably the only legitimate variables. Kall Burns spoke on Road to the Draft suggesting that the Suns would be keen to move up but not back, which suggests to me that they probably would like Callaghan. I think the Giants would love to find a trade partner to move back but finding that partner and managing to still get their guy may be a challenge.
Pick 6 Adelaide - Josh Rachele
Pick 7 Hawthorn - Josh Ward
Pick 8 Fremantle - Jye Amiss
Pick 9 Richmond - Mac Andrew
Pick 10 Fremantle - Neil Erasmus
Rachele to the Crows is seeming more and more likely with the Giants and Suns also rumoured to be interested. Gold Coast I think would be a real threat if the Giants go Callaghan. Pick 8 to Fremantle was my first real headache. If the Dockers are going to take Amiss then it makes most sense to me for them to do it with pick 8 as Richmond could be a possible landing spot for a key forward. I considered Hobbs at 9 and 10 for the Tigers and Dockers respectively but ultimately preferred Andrew and Erasmus.
Pick 11 St Kilda - Ben Hobbs
Pick 12 West Coast - Matthew Johnson
Pick 13 Essendon Nasiah Wanganeen-Milera
Pick 14 Port Adelaide - Josh Goater
Pick 15 GWS - Sam Butler
I really dislike the Saints + Hobbs fit but I just couldn't leave him on the board for any longer. He's probably top 10 on draft night so this feels like a bit of a slide. Interestingly, I think the Saints going Hobbs prevents Johnson from sliding as I think West Coast would favour Hobbs if available. If that played out, I could foresee Johnson getting to the late teens. Port miss out on Wanganeen-Milera but I think an inside midfielder is a bigger long-term need anyway and think Goater could fill that. Butler is probably the first big 'reach' but I'm really starting to get on board with his skillset and think that's someone the Giants would love to add to their list.
Pick 16 Brisbane - Zac Taylor
Pick 17 Richmond - Jacob Van Rooyen
Pick 18 Sydney - Mitch Knevitt
Pick 19 Melbourne - Tyler Sonsie
Pick 20 Brisbane - Josh Sinn
I've been high on Zac Taylor for a while now and Brisbane I feel are just about the best in the business at developing these types. I know it's not a need and hurts more seeing JVR go next. I don't love the fit but I think Richmond and Melbourne would consider Taylor and so I've locked him away here. Richmond could go a number of different directions here but with options to address the midfield and utilities in the second round, I've doubled down on the key position types. Sydney get some inside midfield help and the Dees and Brisbane get some serious value late in the first round.
Round 2
Pick 21 Fremantle - Arlo Draper
Pick 22 North Melbourne - Campbell Chesser
Pick 23 St Kilda - Mitch Owens* (matched bid)
Pick 24 Hawthorn - Blake Howes
Pick 25 Geelong - Tom Brown
Draper and Chesser present great value for the Dockers and Roos. St Kilda snag Owens with the Hawks adding some athleticism to their forward half. I really like Tom Brown and considered him for Brisbane in the first round and for North at pick 22.
Pick 26 Hawthorn - Judson Clarke
Pick 27 Carlton - Connor MacDonald
Pick 28 Richmond - Darcy Wilmot
Pick 29 Richmond - Jesse Motlop
Pick 30 Richmond - Angus Sheldrick
Clarke brings some more speed and x-factor to Hawthorn's forward set up and I think MacDonald can be a key piece to Carlton's midfield in the long term. The big play here is Richmond's haul. After going Andrew and JVR in the first round, they add Wilmot, Motlop and Sheldrick to add to a draft hand that I think balances them really nicely. Wilmot is a great get at 28, Motlop has his fans and though this may be a touch early for Sheldrick, I feel it's a worthwhile gamble with the midfield depth in this draft dwindling.
Pick 31 West Coast - Brady Hough
Pick 32 Geelong - Rhett Bazzo
Pick 33 Sydney - Leek Alleer
Pick 34 GWS - Josh Fahey* (bid matched)
Pick 35 Geelong - Ronald Fejo Jr
It was around this range where I started hating every passing selection. Hough to West Coast seems reasonable enough, though I would've liked to add some more speed here. Corey Warner could be an option but I think it would be a reach in this range. There's a bit of irony in Sydney taking an under-developed intercept marking key defender after letting Aliir Aliir go last year. I wanted Sheldrick at this pick for the Swans but I'd already sent him to Richmond and I think it's too early for Jack Williams who I think is also an option. The Fahey bid comes and Geelong add some class and x-factor with Ronny Fejo.
Pick 36 Adelaide - Kai Lohmann
Pick 37 Geelong - Matthew Roberts
Pick 38 West Coast - Alastair Lord
Pick 39 Melbourne - Paul Curtis
I have no idea who Adelaide will go with this selection and low key feel like they'll pull a Hugh Stagg or something like that (nothing against Stagg, I just prefer others here). So I just went ahead and picked one of my favourite guys from the pool and went Lohmann who I think fits a need, and with Rachele, adds some genuine x-factor inside our forward half. West Coast add some speed with Lord and Melbourne add Curtis to Sonsie which I absolutely love for them.
Round 3
Pick 40 Sydney - Jack Williams
Pick 41 Brisbane - Oscar Morrison
Pick 42 North Melbourne - Corey Preston
Pick 43 North Melbourne - Miller Bergman
Pick 44 Melbourne - Taj Woewodin
It gets more and more difficult late but Sydney and Brisbane go key position with Williams and Morrison. I debated between Charlie Dean and Morrison for the Lions. While Dean is probably the safer bet to contribute from day 1, I think Morrison has the greater upside as an interceptor and rebounder. North add class and versatility with Preston and Bergman and Woewodin gets to the Dees with their last selection.
Pick 45 Geelong - Toby Conway
Pick 46 Essendon - Jamieson Ballantyne
Pick 47 St Kilda - Marcus Windhager* (matched bid)
Pick 48 Western Bulldogs - Lachlan Rankin
Pick 49 Collingwood - Corey Warner
There's not a great deal to love here but Geelong get their ruckman and the Saints get their second NGA prospect. I like Ballantyne and Rankin and think they present a bit of value here, while I don't love Warner to the Pies, there's some potential upside/value late.
Pick 50 Essendon - Kaden Harbour
Pick 51 Fremantle - Eric Benning* (matched bid)
Pick 52 Collingwood - Hugh Jackson
There's a pathway for Harbour, Benning and Jackson to all have AFL careers so I think these selections are reasonable enough. Typically a stab in the dark this late in the draft.
Round 4
Pick 53 Hawthorn - Isaac Birt
Pick 54 Port Adelaide - Jase Burgoyne
Pick 55 Carlton - Charlie Molan
Pick 56 West Coast - Ethan Regan
Pick 57 North Melbourne - Isaiah Dudley
Pick 58 Adelaide - Hugh Stagg
Nothing too interesting here with Burgoyne and Regan finding their way to Port and West Coast respectively. Molan is some good value late for the Blues. Dudley to North and Stagg to Adelaide is just based on a rumour that was going around at the SA Draft Combine. Brisbane, Hawthorn, Sydney, GWS, Port Adelaide all passing selections.
Round 5
Pick 59 Collingwood - Josh Browne
Pick 60 Essendon - Cooper Murley
Pick 61 Western Bulldogs - Youseph Dib
Pick 62 St Kilda - Charlie Dean
North, Collingwood, Adelaide, Hawthorn and Carlton all passing selections.
https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/modernartillery-2021-draft-thread.1273192/post-72838351
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Big NO. To Mac Andrew, tall developing players a waste of time IMHO
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Agree...
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No way will we let Hobbs slip through and take Andrews
Not that Andrews won’t be a good player but A class midfielder would be 1st priority.
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This guy is tailoring what He wants to happen
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We have just seen what happens when you spend years developing talls only for them to walk. I dont think we go Andrews here. Let the other clubs develop them and we jump on them once they have put on size and honed their skills.
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We have just seen what happens when you spend years developing talls only for them to walk. I dont think we go Andrews here. Let the other clubs develop them and we jump on them once they have put on size and honed their skills.
Exactly, a Great example is Nank
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Big NO. To Mac Andrew, tall developing players a waste of time IMHO
Not sure Richo, Riewoldt, Lynch, Rance, Astbury or Balta would agree
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Big NO. To Mac Andrew, tall developing players a waste of time IMHO
Agreed, he's what 70kg? Going to take 3+ years at least.
No way will we let Hobbs slip through and take Andrews
Not that Andrews won’t be a good player but A class midfielder would be 1st priority.
Agree with this too. We really need a mid and Hobbs sounds like an extractor and ball magnet who could pretty much play immediately. I am keen for us to get him for sure, in fact if anything I am worried he will be gone.
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He should have been loyal, but not sure why they didn’t extend a year ago- everyone is right in hind sight 😁
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Big NO. To Mac Andrew, tall developing players a waste of time IMHO
Not sure Richo, Riewoldt, Lynch, Rance, Astbury or Balta would agree
I get where you are coming from, but none of those players with the possible exception of Ashbury, took long to come up to AFL standard, we have been waiting for 3 years for CCJ to come on, in hindsight he should have been given more opportunity maybe??
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No way will we let Hobbs slip through and take Andrews
Not that Andrews won’t be a good player but A class midfielder would be 1st priority.
Why the love for Hobbs
He is not fast
He is not agile
His tank isn't the biggest
His kicking is average
He has no x factor
With so many deficiencies why do posters see him as top ten pick?
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Big NO. To Mac Andrew, tall developing players a waste of time IMHO
Not sure Richo, Riewoldt, Lynch, Rance, Astbury or Balta would agree
I get where you are coming from, but none of those players with the possible exception of Ashbury, took long to come up to AFL standard, we have been waiting for 3 years for CCJ to come on, in hindsight he should have been given more opportunity maybe??
Rance was also a mile off in his early years. Richo had the same body shape as Mac Andrew when he started also
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We have a habit of selecting someone outside the box not linked with us. No one knows except our recruiting team who were keen in, as it should be.
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THREE TALL DEFENDER DRAFT PROSPECTS THAT HAVE IMPRESSED KEVIN SHEEHAN IN 2021
Josh Gibcus
GWV Rebels, NAB League / Eastpoint FC / St. Pat’s College
State: Victoria (Country)
Height: 196cm
Weight: 87kg
Date of Birth: 04/04/03
Sheehan says: “One that I want to talk about is Josh Gibcus, who plays very much like Jake Lever,” he told SEN’s Dwayne’s World.
“He’s a similar type at the same age, his size is 196 cm, he’s up at Ballarat and plays for the Rebels up there in the NAB league.
“He stepped right up for a couple of rep games this year, and that really caught the eyes of all the scouts.
“The first time was when a national group, an Under 18 group was thrown together to play Geelong’s VFL side … he stood up against the big bodies.
“He stood up in that, then he stood up again when he played a representative match for Vic Country against Vic Metro, he stood on Sam Darcy for a while that game.
“(Darcy) is a highly promising forward, well Josh Gibcus was able to match it with him.
Leek Alleer
Central Districts, SANFL
State: South Australia
Height: 195cm
Weight: 81kg
Date of Birth: 21/08/01
Sheehan says: “This boy turned 20 during the year and then was switched from the ruck and the forward (roles) he played as a junior at Central Districts, and they threw him to centre half-back.
“This boy’s had a wonderful back half of the year.
“Then at our testing session over in Adelaide, he’s broken Nic Naitanui’s record of 102 cm (for the running vertical jump), he’s gone to 107 cm.
“He’s got an absolutely magnificent spring that made him a great intercept marker, playing there in the SANFL this year.
“He’s rocketed into contention based on his senior year, the senior full year that kids in Victoria couldn’t have.
Charlie Dean
Williamstown, VFL / Sandringham Dragons, NAB League / Collegians, VAFA
State: Victoria (Metro)
Height: 195cm
Weight: 86kg
Date of Birth: 19/06/01
Sheehan says: “In his 20th year also, he had those nine games that most of the VFL boys got, but he did enough to star across half-back.
“We’ve seen him as a junior at Sandringham Dragons, but his marking is sensational and he can sneak to the other end as well and play as a forward.
“He’s really started to mature in his 20th year.
“He won an award that really has been a great lead to mature-age players (doing well in the AFL), it’s that Fothergill-Brown-Mitchell Medal … Luke Ryan’s won that, Bayley Fritsch has won that, so they normally step up and do pretty well.
“So he’s regarded as the most promising player in the VFL in Charlie Dean.”
https://www.sen.com.au/news/2021/11/06/three-tall-defender-draft-prospects-that-have-impressed-kevin-sheehan-in/
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(https://resources.afl.com.au/photo-resources/2021/10/18/c1ca9dab-f030-4129-b4eb-3d92fcec3695/TXd7SP66.png?width=1064&height=600) (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OzsPLtYtCjs)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OzsPLtYtCjs
Article about Johnson: https://www.afl.com.au/news/686639/covid-tests-at-1am-to-bog-wa-gun-ready-for-anything-after-wild-year
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Sounds like the Dockers are interested in Erasmus.
Ex-Dockers fitness boss Jason Weber compares Neil Erasmus’ preparation to Freo’s top-10 picks
https://thewest.com.au/sport/afl-draft/afl-draft-2021-ex-dockers-fitness-boss-jason-weber-compares-neil-erasmus-preparation-to-freos-top-10-picks-c-4450313
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Hobbs is seen as a replacement for Cotch by many as he has tenacity , ward ,johnson, eramanus , Rachele , Amis are all in the ballpark but Hobbs is most likely to slip through to our pick
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No way will we let Hobbs slip through and take Andrews
Not that Andrews won’t be a good player but A class midfielder would be 1st priority.
Why the love for Hobbs
He is not fast
He is not agile
His tank isn't the biggest
His kicking is average
He has no x factor
With so many deficiencies why do posters see him as top ten pick?
He is an inside.bull, extractor and accumulator.
Prestia also isn't fast, agile clean by foot nor does he have any x factor. But before hammies he was probably one of our most important players.
Not everyone is Dustin Martin. Perhaps we have been so spoiled by having him that we forget most of them are just human.
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Just a question
If Richmond picked Josh Fahey at 9 after the Daicos Darcy bids and GWS matched. What would that do to GWS pick at 13 would they lose that meaning we go up one spot in the draft at that point.
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Or they don’t match and we are stuck with Fahey (likely)
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Rumour has it we would be happy to get stuck with him. Although Im on the Johnson bandwagon myself.
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Just a question
If Richmond picked Josh Fahey at 9 after the Daicos Darcy bids and GWS matched. What would that do to GWS pick at 13 would they lose that meaning we go up one spot in the draft at that point.
Short answer is no.
GWS would move up to pick 9 in matching our bid to grab Fahey and we plus everyone else between pick 9 and the Giants' first (pick 15 after Daicos/Darcy bids) move back one spot.
Before bid: After bid:
9. Rich 9. GWS - Fahey (matching our bid)
10. Freo 10. Rich
11. StK 11. Freo
12. WC 12. StK
13. Ess 13. WC
14. Port 14. Ess
15. GWS 15. Port
16. Bris 16. Bris
17. Rich 17. Rich
ps. The Giants next pick 53 will move back to pick 58 but that doesn't affect us.
Pick 9 is worth 1469 pts. After the 20% discount, GWS will need to find 1175 pts to match our bid.
Pick 15 is worth 1112, so they will need to use up an additional 63 points from their next pick. So Pick 53 (= 233 pts) drops to 170 pts (pick 58).
pps. It's a risky strategy. As camboon says, GWS may not match our bid at that price. They may see not matching as an opportunity to effectively move up one spot in terms of the draftees still left on the board with us out of the way having used our first pick on Fahey.
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No way will we let Hobbs slip through and take Andrews
Not that Andrews won’t be a good player but A class midfielder would be 1st priority.
Why the love for Hobbs
He is not fast
He is not agile
His tank isn't the biggest
His kicking is average
He has no x factor
With so many deficiencies why do posters see him as top ten pick?
He is an inside.bull, extractor and accumulator.
Prestia also isn't fast, agile clean by foot nor does he have any x factor. But before hammies he was probably one of our most important players.
Not everyone is Dustin Martin. Perhaps we have been so spoiled by having him that we forget most of them are just human.
He is a inside bull , but to many weaknesses me for a player top 10.
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The best AFL Draft prospect for your club
Which top talent should each club be hoping to land at this month’s draft?
Mitch Keating
zerohanger.com
November 7, 2021
RICHMOND
Mac Andrew (Dandenong Stingrays)
The Tigers will carry one of the strongest draft hands into this month's count following a bust trade period and a finish outside of the top eight in 2021.
A factor for their 4,865 draft points total comes from the departures of Mabior Chol and Callum Coleman-Jones this off-season, with the pair leaving large voids in both Richmond's attack and youthful stocks.
Draft Profile: Mac Andrew
The sky’s the limit for this versatile tall.
Dandenong's Mac Andrew is a versatile key position prospect coming out of Victoria.
The Egyptian-born South Sudanese player is one of the rawest prospects at the top end of the draft. Andrew's potential is also one of the highest. He has an elite level of athleticism with a great vertical leap for his size. This helped him dominate the ruck, with the ability and touch to find teammates. Those clean hands translate to around the ground, being able to mark at the highest point.
His light frame is something that opposition players will be able to exploit. At only 70kg, he will need to add size to his frame to fully realise his potential. It appears that he is already addressing those issues however.
“I’ve put on about 10 kilos this year, so I’m about 80 now,” Andrew recently told The Age.
“I’m still pretty light, but Melbourne, they gave me a [weights] program to do and I reached out to the nutritionists that they’ve got. The [Dandenong] Stingrays as well, I’ve got a lot of people helping me with it.”
Andrew is a part of Melbourne's Next Generation Academy (NGA). With the changes to the NGA rules, only players drafted outside the top 20 selections can have their bids matched. After showing significant improvement this season, Andrew has skyrocketed up the draft boards. This means that it is unlikely that Melbourne will not get the opportunity to bid on their star prospect at the National Draft.
In a draft that is light on tall prospects, Andrew finds himself at the top end of the obtainable players in his class. With Sam Darcy going to Western Bulldogs as a father-son selection, Andrew could be the next best target. His ability to play at ground level and in the air makes him one of the most unique prospects.
He is considered a long term project, who is unlikely to have a serious impact in his first few seasons. His draft range will be influenced by whether there are any trades in the top end of the draft. Teams needing tall forwards either now or in the future (Richmond, GWS, Fremantle) would all be considering Andrew in the 2-10 range.
Team: Dandenong Stingrays
Position: Ruck/Forward
Height: 200cm
Weight: 70kg
Strengths
Versatility
Athleticism
Potential
Weaknesses
Raw
Strength/size
Draft Range
2-10
Potential Landing Spots
Greater Western Sydney (Pick 2), Gold Coast (Pick 3), Fremantle (Pick 6/8), Richmond (Pick 7)
AFL Comparisons
Nic Naitanui
Luke Jackson
Paddy Ryder
Expert Comments
“He’s a 200cm boy, mobile, terrific mark, can play both ends of the ground and can play in the ruck, he’s an exciting prospect is young Mac Andrews.” - Kevin Sheehan (SEN).
"What I love about the ‘Big Mac’ is just how competitive he is. He really is a great option. When he’s in the air and the ball is up for grabs he goes for it, and he fights for it at ground level." - Cal Twomey (Sportsday WA).
(https://www.zerohanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/10/GettyImages-1314111962-1920x1186.jpg)
https://www.zerohanger.com/the-best-afl-draft-prospect-for-your-club-93919/
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Unless they are generational type player or absolute gun I would never take a ruckman with a first rounder. Either they take too long to come on or when they are about to they get poached like CCJ and bugger off.
I would be very disappointed if we walked away with Mac Andrew on draft night.
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Unless they are generational type player or absolute gun I would never take a ruckman with a first rounder. Either they take too long to come on or when they are about to they get poached like CCJ and bugger off.
I would be very disappointed if we walked away with Mac Andrew on draft night.
100%
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History of our first pick (which will be #9 after the Daicos/Darcy bids):
Pick 9 history since 2000
Picks: Kayne Pettifer, Luke Molan, Hamish Mcintosh, David Trotter, Jordan Russell, Mitch Clark, David Armitage, Ben McEvoy, Jack Ziebell, Andrew Moore, Dion Prestia, Adam Tomlinson, Nick Vlaustin, Christian Salem, Darcy Moore, Sam Weideman
Average games played: 120
Average Brownlow votes: 13
Combined All-Australian selections: 1
Combined club best and fairest awards: 1
Overall, this spot inside the top 10 has delivered some very good team players which may lack the accolades of other spots. The lone All-Australian selection belongs to Darcy Moore, while the one club best and fairest belongs to Dion Prestia in Richmond's 2019 premiership year.
David Armitage, Ben McEvoy, Jack Zieball, Adam Tomlinson and Nick Vlaustin have all gone on to become vital players at their respective clubs, while Christian Salem seems to be entering his prime.
Key-forward Sam Weideman has looked to break onto the scene on multiple occasions but has battled with consistency. Still young, Weideman possesses real key position talent and could mould into a quality forward for the Demons.
https://www.zerohanger.com/the-success-rate-of-top-10-draft-picks-92075/
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Prospective top-10 draft pick Mac Andrew says two of the 16 AFL clubs he has spoken to have stood out in particular.
Having held talks with all bar two AFL clubs, Andrew says the Giants and Hawks are the pair that he has connected with, peculiarly through ‘speed dating’.
https://www.sen.com.au/news/2021/11/07/how-potential-top-10-draftee-connected-with-two-clubs-over-speed-dating/
Both clubs before our first pick.
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Unless they are generational type player or absolute gun I would never take a ruckman with a first rounder. Either they take too long to come on or when they are about to they get poached like CCJ and bugger off.
I would be very disappointed if we walked away with Mac Andrew on draft night.
He is a generational type player. Worth the risk as the upside is huge.
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Prospective top-10 draft pick Mac Andrew says two of the 16 AFL clubs he has spoken to have stood out in particular.
Having held talks with all bar two AFL clubs, Andrew says the Giants and Hawks are the pair that he has connected with, peculiarly through ‘speed dating’.
https://www.sen.com.au/news/2021/11/07/how-potential-top-10-draftee-connected-with-two-clubs-over-speed-dating/
Both clubs before our first pick.
Interestingly Rachele said Adelaide and GWS. Seems no coincidence the clubs they are linked to the most are the ones they nominate.
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Anyone seen and rate this kid? He's got wheels to burn.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RHzRRl1k45Y
Ronald Fejo's stats:
HGT: 178cm
WGT: 70kg
DOB: 16/12/2001 (19 years old).
West Adelaide seniors: https://sanfl.com.au/league/clubs/west-adelaide/1016137/?league=sanfl&season=2021
West Adelaide ressies: https://sanfl.com.au/league/clubs/west-adelaide/1016137/?league=reserves&season=2021
NAB League - Nth Territory: https://central.rookieme.com/afl/player/ronald-fejo/
Article on the AFL website about him:
https://www.afl.com.au/news/686807/it-opened-my-eyes-the-move-that-has-put-darwin-prospect-ronald-fejo-on-the-afl-radar
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Article about Darcy Wilmot:
https://www.afl.com.au/news/686801/how-dashing-darcy-is-hoping-to-follow-in-his-father-s-footsteps
Highlights:
(https://resources.afl.com.au/photo-resources/2021/10/18/deebb036-8598-451d-94be-115d74fbfb3c/TJGQmigq.png?width=1064&height=600) (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=npfOhsJ3rjY)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=npfOhsJ3rjY
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Unproven Vic bolters set to turn draft on its head
Could the Cats and Tigers be better placed to land the next Bont than the clubs with top picks? Here is why the Victorian prospects are about to turn draft night on its head.
paywall: https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/kevin-sheehan-lack-of-experience-for-vic-draftees-could-completely-turn-the-draft-on-its-head/news-story/e2513f7b40310ffbd9e92fd1e3808f7e
For those with a HeraldSun subscription, who is this next Bont?
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Callum Twomey & Nat Edwards on the AFL website:
WATCH: https://www.afl.com.au/video/686917/draft-whispers-pick-swaps-what-will-hawks-blues-crows-do-
Summary:
* A bit of a holding pattern at the moment but discussions going on behind the scenes. Clubs have got until next Monday to do pick swaps otherwise they will have to wait to do them on draft night.
* Giants likely to take pick 2 to the draft. Gold Coast, Adelaide, Hawthorn & Richmond all have been interested in moving up.
* Dogs' pick 23: Collingwood, Sydney & Geelong interested in that pick.
* Port is looking to get another pick inside the top 30.
* Essendon throwing up its future 2nd for trade to get another 2nd round pick in this draft.
* Carlton are willing to put their pick 25 up for trade.
* Rachele linked to Adelaide at pick 4 (6 after bids) for a while. Others that would be good for the Crows: Simms, Wanganeen-Milera. Crows can't push back in the draft for Rachele as he'll be gone but do the Crows push back if they want Wanganeen-Milera?
* Callaghan will be gone before Hawks' pick 5 (7 after bids). Ward, Hobbs and Andrew will be available. Johnson has also attracted interest from the Hawks.
* Connor MacDonald linked to the Blues at pick 25. Judson Clarke and Zac Taylor will also be available at that stage of the draft.
* GWS linked to making a bid on Owens (St Kilda's academy). That could happen at pick 13 (15 after bids). If they don't bid then there's a better chance he falls outside the top 20 and to the Saints.
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Unproven Vic bolters set to turn draft on its head
Could the Cats and Tigers be better placed to land the next Bont than the clubs with top picks? Here is why the Victorian prospects are about to turn draft night on its head.
paywall: https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/kevin-sheehan-lack-of-experience-for-vic-draftees-could-completely-turn-the-draft-on-its-head/news-story/e2513f7b40310ffbd9e92fd1e3808f7e
For those with a HeraldSun subscription, who is this next Bont?
Just a teaser from the sub-editor.
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Unproven Vic bolters set to turn draft on its head
Could the Cats and Tigers be better placed to land the next Bont than the clubs with top picks? Here is why the Victorian prospects are about to turn draft night on its head.
paywall: https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/kevin-sheehan-lack-of-experience-for-vic-draftees-could-completely-turn-the-draft-on-its-head/news-story/e2513f7b40310ffbd9e92fd1e3808f7e
For those with a HeraldSun subscription, who is this next Bont?
Just a teaser from the sub-editor.
True but did they state a name? It's behind a paywall so I can't read the article.
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Sinn I believe
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Would be a bonus if the Hawks overlooked Ward for Johnson at 7 (after bids). Potential for Ward to slip to us at 9. Mind you Twomey only said the Hawks had an interest in Johnson at 5. He seems to expect one of the Ward, Hobbs or Andrew to end up at Hawthorn.
Having a guess at the top 10:
1. North - Horne-Francis
2. Coll - Daicos (matched bid)
3. WB - Darcy (matched bid)
4. GWS - Andrew
5. GC - Callaghan
6. Adel - Rachele
7. Haw - Ward
8. Freo - Gibcus
9. Rich - Hobbs
10. Freo - Erasmus
Going further with the guess :-\.
11. StK - Johnson
12. WC - Amiss
13. Ess - Wanganeen-Milera
14. Port - Draper
15. GWS - Owens (bid that can't be matched by St Kilda inside top 20)
16. Bris - Sinn
17. Rich - ?
I can't find any rumours at all about who we are looking at 17. Not even the type of player (mid, KP, etc)? Possibly available would be Van Rooyen, Goater, Sonsie, Wilmot, Butler?
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Would be a bonus if the Hawks overlooked Ward for Johnson at 7 (after bids). Potential for Ward to slip to us at 9. Mind you Twomey only said the Hawks had an interest in Johnson at 5. He seems to expect one of the Ward, Hobbs or Andrew to end up at Hawthorn.
Having a guess at the top 10:
1. North - Horne-Francis
2. Coll - Daicos (matched bid)
3. WB - Darcy (matched bid)
4. GWS - Andrew
5. GC - Callaghan
6. Adel - Rachele
7. Haw - Ward
8. Freo - Gibcus
9. Rich - Hobbs
10. Freo - Erasmus
Going further with the guess :-\.
11. StK - Johnson
12. WC - Amiss
13. Ess - Wanganeen-Milera
14. Port - Draper
15. GWS - Owens (bid that can't be matched by St Kilda inside top 20)
16. Bris - Sinn
17. Rich - ?
I can't find any rumours at all about who we are looking at 17. Not even the type of player (mid, KP, etc)? Possibly available would be Van Rooyen, Goater, Sonsie, Wilmot, Butler?
A bid by us on Josh Fahey is a big chance at 17 and if GWS match then don't be surprised if we go for Tom Brown. Very underrated by the internet but not by those in the know
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Another BF draft watcher's (getgaff) phantom draft:
PICK 1: NORTH MELBOURNE - Jason Horne Francis
PICK 2: COLLINGWOOD F/S - Nick Daicos (matching GWS bid)
PICK 3: WESTERN BULLDOGS F/S - Sam Darcy (matching GWS bid)
PICK 4: GWS - Mac Andrew
PICK 5: GOLD COAST - Finn Callaghan
PICK 6: ADELAIDE - Josh Rachele
PICK 7: HAWTHORN - Josh Ward
PICK 8: FREMANTLE - Nasiah Wanganeen - Milera
PICK 9 – RICHMOND: BEN HOBBS
HEIGHT: 183 CM ~ WEIGHT: 80 KG ~ DOB: 16/09/03
POSITION: INSIDE MIDFIELDER ~ CLUB: GWV REBELS
RATIONALE: Some solid feedback and good rationale here from Tigers fans has swayed me into Hobbs here and is clearly a needs based selection also given the older Richmond midfield and a more bankable midfielder than Draper would’ve been at their second pick.
In terms of pure inside mids this draft the only one who would be ahead is Horne Francis and JHF ability to move forward and impact the scoreboard I think tends to make him more a mid / fwd.
As an inside player he brings the key qualities that you’d want and expect in terms of his hunt for the contest, his consistency, the way he accumulates the ball at will and his pressure defensively.
PICK 10: FREMANTLE - Jye Amiss
PICK 11: ST. KILDA - Neil Erasmus
PICK 12: WEST COAST - Matthew Johnston
PICK 13: ESSENDON - Josh Goater
PICK 14: PORT ADELAIDE - Josh Sinn
PICK 15: GWS - Arlo Draper
PICK 16: BRISBANE - Josh Gibcus
PICK 17: RICHMOND – CAMPBELL CHESSER
HEIGHT: 186 CM ~ WEIGHT: 83 KG ~ DOB: 27/04/2003
POSITION: MIDFIELDER / DEFENDER ~ CLUB: SANDRINGHAM DRAGONS
RATIONALE: What Chesser brings to the table is outside traits that compare well with Hobbs on the inside.
Having just lost Houli, Chesser brings similar attributes on the outside particularly by foot and with a desire to take the game on.
Turned what was initially Andrew and Draper into Hobbs and Chesser which isn’t a bad outcome for the Tigers.
PICK 18: SYDNEY - Darcy Wilmot
PICK 19: MELBOURNE - Jacob Van Rooyen
PICK 20: BRISBANE - Tyler Sonsie
PICK 21: FREMANTLE – JESSE MOTLOP ...................... (SMALL FWD, SOUTH FREO)
PICK 22: NORTH MELBOURNE – MITCH KNEVITT ......... (INSIDE MID / TALL FWD TRAITS, GEELONG FALCONS)
PICK 23: HAWTHORN – BLAKE HOWES ...................... (FWD / MID, SANDY DRAGONS)
PICK 24: GEELONG – TOBY CONWAY ......................... (RUCK, GEELONG FALCONS)
PICK 25: HAWTHORN - ZAC TAYLOR .......................... (MID / FWD, CALDER CANNONS)
PICK 26: ST. KILDA NGA - MITCH OWENS .................. (INSIDE MID, SANDY DRAGONS)
PICK 27: CARLTON - MATTHEW ROBERTS ................... (INSIDE MID / FWD, SOUTH ADELAIDE)
PICK 28: RICHMOND – RHETT BAZZO ........................ (KEY DEF, SWAN DISTRICTS)
PICK 29: GWS ACADEMY – JOSH FAHEY (matches our bid) ...........(GEN DEF, QUENBEAYEN)
PICK 30: RICHMOND – TOM BROWN .......................... (GEN DEF, MURRAY BUSHIES)
PICK 31: RICHMOND - COREY WARNER ...................... (BALANCED MID, EAST FREO)
PICK 32: WEST COAST – ANGUS SHELDRICK............... (INSIDE MID, CLAREMONT)
PICK 33: GEELONG – LEEK ALLEER ............................ (KEY DEF, CENTRAL DISTRICT)
PICK 34: SYDNEY – SAM BUTLER .............................. (FWD / MID, GWV REBELS)
PICK 35: GEELONG – JUDSON CLARKE ...................... (FWD / MID, DANDY STINGRAYS)
PICK 36: ADELAIDE – COOPER MURLEY ..................... (MID / FWD, NORWOOD)
PICK 37: GEELONG – CONNOR MACDONALD .............. (INSIDE MID, SANDY DRAGONS)
PICK 38: WEST COAST – ALASTAIR LORD .................. (NORWOOD, SA)
PICK 39: MELBOURNE - SAM BANKS .......................... (MID / DEF, CLARENCE)
https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/getgaff-phantom-draft-2021.1291031/
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CLUBS will be back at Marvel Stadium for this year's NAB AFL Draft after last year making their picks from separate locations around the country.
As the draft moved to a virtual event in 2020 to deal with COVID-19 restrictions and protocols, club recruiters made selections via their draft 'war rooms' where they linked into the broadcast via online meetings.
https://www.afl.com.au/news/687003/from-the-bunker-to-the-corporate-box-draft-is-back-at-marvel
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The top end of the NAB AFL Draft order looks set to remain as is until draft night as the deadline for swapping picks before the event closes in.
Greater Western Sydney's pick No.2 has become a target for clubs trying to push up the board and nab Finn Callaghan, with Gold Coast, Adelaide, Hawthorn and Richmond all interested, but the Giants are expected to hold the selection.
The Giants have been weighing midfielder Callaghan, ruck Mac Andrew, defender Josh Gibcus and small forward Josh Rachele for that pick.
Richmond has also previously had interest in shifting up from pick No.7 to the Crows' pick No.4, using its swag of picks inside the top 30, but no deal is in the works.
https://www.afl.com.au/news/687001/why-draft-pick-swapping-has-hit-the-wall-for-the-moment
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Jimmy Bartel expects Josh Gibcus to be snapped up inside the top seven picks on draft night.
“The obvious thing is where Gold Coast has its early pick and then Freo’s got an early pick as well,” Bartel said.
“He’s high quality. I’ll be surprised if he’s still there at pick 7. He’s extremely talented.
“The fact that (Jason) Horne-Francis and (Josh) Daicos are so good then you’ve got (Sam) Darcy and (Finn) Callaghan, there’s your top four.
“They all (clubs) think Gibcus is about pick 5.”
https://www.sen.com.au/news/2021/11/10/top-draft-prospect-close-to-eagles-defender-aspiring-to-follow-all/
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AFL road to draft has just done a mock draft available on the website. They have us taking Erasmus & Van Rooyen in the first round.
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That would be a good result...then presuming we don't trade and use all 5 picks....Butler, Taylor/Chesser, Bazzo/Williams and it would be just about perfect... :shh
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Shifter Sheehan chose Erasmus & Van Rooyen with our first two picks in the AFL website's mock draft.
Edit: Beat me to it, pmac :thumbsup.
AFL website's first round Mock Draft with Callum Twomey & Kevin 'Shifter' Sheehan making alternating selections:
Listen here: https://omny.fm/shows/road-to-the-afl-draft/2021-mock-draft-cal-and-kevin-sheehan-go-pick-by-p
Twomey said they based their choices on each club's needs.
1. North - Jason Horne-Francis
2. Coll - Nick Daicos ............... (matching GWS's bid)
3. WB - Sam Darcy ................ (matching GWS's bid)
4. GWS - Josh Gibcus
5. GC - Finn Callaghan
6. Adel - Josh Rachele
7. Haw - Josh Ward
8. Freo - Ben Hobbs ......... Twomey said it's a tactical choice given Rich have the pick between Freo's two.
9. Rich - Neil Erasmus ....... Sheehan's choice. Went best remaining midfielder after Ward & Hobbs.
10. Freo - Jye Amiss
11. StK - Mac Andrew
12. WC - Nasiah Wanganeen-Milera
13. Ess - Matthew Johnson
14. Port - Josh Sinn
15. GWS - Josh Goater
16. Bris - Darcy Wilmot
17. Rich - Jacob Van Rooyen ...... Sheehan's choice again. Best swingman.
Starred in defence in first rep game then kicked 4 goals up forward in the last one.
18. GWS - Josh Fahey ............. (matching Sydney's bid)
19. Syd - Tom Brown
20. Melb - Blake Howes
21. Bris - Campbell Chesser
22. Freo - Corey Wagner (Sheehan) / Sam Butler (Twomey)
https://www.afl.com.au/news/687117/listen-who-goes-where-gurus-simulate-first-round-in-annual-mock-draft
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jmCwIUzYCwg
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#9 Neil Erasmus Profile
Height: 188cm
Weight: 80kg
D.O.B: 02-12-2003
Leagues: WAFL Colts
POSITION: Midfielder/Forward
SNAPSHOT: “A prolific tall ball winner who utilises his strength overhead to impact up forward, Erasmus is a prototypical goal kicking midfielder.”
Subiaco and Hale School product Neil Erasmus starred in the 2020 WAFL Colts Grand Final with a four-goal haul to put his name in lights, and hasn’t missed a beat since across multiple competitions. Erasmus finds the footy with ease when playing through the midfield as he balances his inside and outside work superbly, finding ways out of trouble with his evasion and clean hands. To go with this midfield craft, Erasmus is able to play as a target up forward, with his leading patterns and marking two traits which help him hurt the opposition in attack.
Strengths:
Accumulation
Consistency
Endurance
Overhead Marking
Scoreboard Impact
Leading Patterns
Improvements:
Kicking Consistency
Explosive Speed
After a standout 2020 WAFL Colts Grand Final performance, Erasmus continued to go from strength to strength in 2021, proving arguably the best player in the PSA season for Hale, the side he captained, and being a later inclusion to the AFL Academy squad which took on Geelong VFL. Erasmus was unsurprisingly involved in the WA Under 19 squad and performed well in the practice matches he participated in, before unfortunately missing out on championships proper against South Australia as his year was cut short by a corked quad.
As a midfielder, Erasmus is generally one of the main ball winners on the ground. Whether the target of the tap around a stoppage, winning it in a pack, or timing his run to receive it on the outside, Erasmus knows where to be to win the ball and almost commands it with his presence. A big strength of Erasmus’ once he wins the ball is his use by hand. Even in traffic or under a high amount of pressure, Erasmus generally spots out an option and handballs well, with his ability to keep his hands free in congestion a major part of that. How consistent Erasmus is with that accumulation, and his quality use by hand are impressive across all levels of competition, regularly getting above 30 disposals.
There aren’t many improvements that Erasmus needs to work on heading into the future, being a generally well rounded prospect. His kicking at times can be inconsistent, with his penetration and decision making generally sound but accuracy being something he can struggle with, particularly under pressure or on the run. His goal kicking accuracy had previously been a bit of a concern but is something he’s improved through the year, especially his set shots. Another area of improvement that would advance Erasmus’ all-round game is his explosive speed, which would help him create separation when leading more consistently or get away from opponents in the midfield more easily. At the moment, he is the type of player who covers good ground over time.
DRAFT PROJECTION: 6-12
SUMMARY:
With his effectiveness in the forward line as a strong marker with good leading patterns, Erasmus is one that should be able to play at AFL level early on for whichever club picks him up, and will be able to rotate through the midfield as he builds to a more permanent role through the guts. His endurance base and consistency bode well alongside his aerial tricks and scoreboard impact, all traits which have him firmly in top 10 contention.
https://central.rookieme.com/afl/player/neil-erasmus/
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Think we will take Johnson. He has Richmond Man written all over him... Plays Richmond football.
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Port Adelaide fans will be licking their lips if Nasiah Wanganeen-Milera’s name is still on the board when their pick 12 rolls around in November's National Draft.
https://www.sen.com.au/news/2021/11/11/hell-be-sensational-respected-footy-minds-see-huge-talent-in-nephew-of-power/
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“17 out of the 18 were on Zoom and Sydney were able to come to my house mid-year when we were out of lockdown,” Josh Goater said of the interview process.
Asked to name the clubs that have shown more interest, Goater was forthcoming.
“Essendon, Hawthorn, Sydney and GWS,” he revealed.
“Sydney twice that I’ve doubled up with, so there was four actually.”
Tim Watson took in some of Goater’s highlights and sees some similarities with 2008 Brownlow Medallist Adam Cooney with the way he moves around the contest.
https://www.sen.com.au/news/2021/11/11/the-four-clubs-who-have-doubled-up-their-interest-in-top-20-draft-hopeful/
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WHAT YOUR CLUB MUST TARGET IN THE 2021 NATIONAL DRAFT
Andrew Slevison
SEN
11 November 2021
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The Tigers need midfield quality and with a strong draft hand should be able to return to Punt Road from this year’s draft with a decent swag.
Northern Knights product Josh Ward, who according to AFL draft guru Cal Twomey possesses “good inside/outside balance”, appears nicely suited based on that assessment. He is a contested ball winner with good skills.
Ready-to-play on-baller Ben Hobbs (GWV Rebels) will be wanted by plenty of clubs early and would be a solid fit for Richmond. Could they strategise to move further up the draft board to secure a Ward or Hobbs who could go top 5 or 6?
Neil Erasmus (Subiaco), a damaging mid who can hit the scoreboard, should also be available in the range of their first pick.
Crafty small forward Josh Rachele (Murray Bushrangers) could be an option if the Tigers are keen on bolstering in attack.
Despite the signing of Robbie Tarrant, a promising key defender for the future could also be on their radar, but will they look for one early or hold off until later?
With five picks in the top 30, this looms as a vital draft for the Tigers.
Richmond’s picks: 7, 15, 26, 27, 28, 83.
https://www.sen.com.au/news/2021/11/10/what-your-club-must-target-in-the-2021-national-draft/
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Callum Twomey on the AFL website's draft podcast:
* St Kilda's first pick? NWM, Sinn, Johnson or Gibcus/Andrew if they were to slip outside the top 10.
* North pick 20? Do they go tall Van rooyen or small Motlop, Butler, Howes (the latter will go around the 20 mark)
* Freo pick 19? Dependent on what they do at 6,8. Who doesn't say they may trade it? Otherwise Warner, Motlop (tied to their NGA) available at that range.
* Hawks' first pick? Johnson a wildcard. Ward, Hobbs. Shown interest in Andrew as well.
* Blayne O'Loughlin? Adel didn't name him as a NGA so open to all clubs. Moreso a rookie selection.
* Mature age players to look out for? Dean, Aleer (likely a 30s onwards selection).
* Can get to 35 names fairly easily but after that it's a bit of gamble. Expecting around 60 picks used.
https://www.afl.com.au/video/687260/draft-s-wildcard-pick-will-this-godfather-bid-for-his-gun-godson
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"Kaden Harbour. Richmond has been speaking to him. Could be a chance. Would need to come with a later pick."
Kaden Harbour
East Perth, WAFL / John Forest SC
State: Western Australia
Height: 178cm
Weight: 78kg
Date of Birth: 26/09/03
Small forward who is quick and agile with an impressive natural leap. At ground level he is a one-touch player whose second efforts and tackling are also strengths of his game. Has progressed to play a couple of reserves games this year after playing 13 matches at under-18s level where he averaged 12.2 disposals and kicked 17 goals. Was lively as a pressure forward for Western Australia in two of its wins over South Australia at under-19s level, averaging 9.5 disposals and 3.5 tackles. His slick 2.99 seconds for 20 metres at the NAB AFL Draft Combine in Perth rounded out his impressive athletic profile.
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https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/2021-draft-pool.1252517/post-72881784
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But I like the mohawk! A for Atta-tood! :thumbsup
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Would be a bonus if the Hawks overlooked Ward for Johnson at 7 (after bids). Potential for Ward to slip to us at 9. Mind you Twomey only said the Hawks had an interest in Johnson at 5. He seems to expect one of the Ward, Hobbs or Andrew to end up at Hawthorn.
Having a guess at the top 10:
1. North - Horne-Francis
2. Coll - Daicos (matched bid)
3. WB - Darcy (matched bid)
4. GWS - Andrew
5. GC - Callaghan
6. Adel - Rachele
7. Haw - Ward
8. Freo - Gibcus
9. Rich - Hobbs
10. Freo - Erasmus
Going further with the guess :-\.
11. StK - Johnson
12. WC - Amiss
13. Ess - Wanganeen-Milera
14. Port - Draper
15. GWS - Owens (bid that can't be matched by St Kilda inside top 20)
16. Bris - Sinn
17. Rich - ?
I can't find any rumours at all about who we are looking at 17. Not even the type of player (mid, KP, etc)? Possibly available would be Van Rooyen, Goater, Sonsie, Wilmot, Butler?
A bid by us on Josh Fahey is a big chance at 17 and if GWS match then don't be surprised if we go for Tom Brown. Very underrated by the internet but not by those in the know
Seems to have very good penetration with his kicking going by the highlights. He doesn't seem to kick the ball that hard but it travels a fair distance. So that would attract our recruiters as we seem to like having long kickers rebounding out of our backline (eg: Short, Balta).
Cat fans think he's heading to them at pick 22 (24 after bids). So he probably will be gone by our picks in the late 20s if we overlook him at 17.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VHTKWa_qfho
Tom Brown profile
Height: 186cm
Weight: 71kg
D.O.B: 30-07-2003
Leagues: NAB League Boys
POSITION: Medium Defender
SNAPSHOT: "A smooth-moving half-back who reads the play well, and is a good decision maker by hand or foot, working hard in transition to provide drive out of the defensive 50."
Tom Brown is an athletic half-back from the Murray Bushrangers, who is the son of Geelong Cats' Paul, but not eligible for the father-son rule due to his father not reaching the 100-game minimum requirement. The clean running defender, who can also push up the ground and play off a wing, has some eye-catching outside traits, and nice footy smarts to-boot. His athletic abilities combined with his smarts and ability to read the play make him a natural outside player, with his strength and contested work areas to improve on.
STRENGTHS:
+ Speed
+ Athleticism
+ Rebounding
+ Footy smarts
+ Reading the play
+ Clean hands
IMPROVEMENTS:
- Contested work
- Strength
Brown has only managed to play the five NAB League Boys games this season in what has been an interrupted year for him like so many others, but he had back-to-back impressive outings picking up 20-plus disposals against the Geelong Falcons and Bendigo Pioneers, where his run and carry, and drive down the ground were ultra-impressive. He is often the player who will run to the outside of a stoppage to either receive the handball or grab the loose ball and take off, with his speed among the better players in the AFL Draft crop. Whilst naturally quick and also gifted with a nice vertical leap, it is his footy smarts that set him aside from his peers.
Most running half-backs will have the athletic traits down pat, but what separates Brown from the field is his footy smarts and reading of the play. He knows when to give and go, and when to hold up and switch play, as well as having the composure to size up options and relieve with a backwards handball, if his teammate has the best chance of advancing the ball forward. He has clean hands which helps him clunk intercept marks and take off, and he can have a real impact in transition down the ground. The other side of the coin with being prolific at this game style, is the contested work which could be improved.
Brown only weighed in at 71kg coming into the season, so naturally strength is an easy area where the Bushrangers talent can build and allow him to win more contested balls. He only averaged just over a tackle per game, but that was more his role rather than intent, with Brown still willing to aide his team defensively. Being an outside receiver or interceptor, Brown rarely goes into the coalface which makes sense given his body size and strengths, and it is likely he will settle as that outside running talent to really impact matches with his work down the ground. His kicking is generally pretty good, and whilst not elite, is still fairly penetrative, and he can use his left as well as his dominant right foot.
DRAFT RANGE: 20-40
SUMMARY:
Overall, Tom Brown is an exciting running talent who can provide that transitional play for a side, be it slotting in at half-back or on a wing. He knows how to win the ball in defence, rebound it out and switch play to the open side if required. He needs to build up his strength to be able to compete against stronger bodies, which is why Brown is suited to an outside or flank role. His footy smarts and reading of the play allow him to succeed in this role, and is the type of role he will be likely to play at the top level anyway.
https://central.rookieme.com/afl/player/tom-brown/
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How to watch the best draft coverage LIVE
THE 2021 NAB AFL Draft is almost upon us and AFL.com.au and the AFL Live Official App is where you will find the best coverage in the country.
Draft guru Cal Twomey, as well as AFL Digital stars Riley Beveridge and Nat Edwards will have you covered with their unrivalled knowledge as your club builds a list for its next premiership tilt.
There will be more coverage than ever this year with live shows Draft Night Countdown, Draft Night Live and Rookie Draft Live keeping you up-to-date during a massive week.
All the action kicks off from Monday, November 22 and you can check out all the details below.
Draft Night Countdown
Monday, November 22 - Wednesday, November 24
12pm AEDT - 2pm AEDT
Join Cal Twomey and Riley Beveridge as they interview players, managers, coaches, recruiters and more ahead of the 2021 NAB AFL Draft.
Draft Night Live
Wednesday, November 24 and Thursday, November 25
From 6.30pm AEDT
There's only one place you want to be for both nights of the draft and that's right here on AFL.com.au and the AFL Live Official App. Join Nat Edwards, Cal Twomey and Riley Beveridge as they bring you all the drama as it unfolds.
Rookie Draft Live
Friday, November 26
Before 3pm AEDT
Who will be the next rookie list success story? Join Cal Twomey and Riley Beveridge as delisted stars and overlooked youngsters get their footy lifeline.
https://www.afl.com.au/news/686922/make-us-your-no-1-pick-how-to-watch-the-best-draft-coverage-live
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Amiss to go before Erasmus and Johnson?
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https://thewest.com.au/sport/afl-draft/afl-draft-2021-east-perth-forward-jye-amiss-firming-as-first-west-aussie-picked-in-national-draft-c-4516095
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Probably made up but here's a BF rumour doing the rounds:
Pick 2 & future 2nd to Hawthorn.
Pick 5 & future 1st to GWS.
Pick swap to be done on draft night.
GWS to select Andrew at 5 (7 after bids).
Presumably Hawthorn takes Callaghan at pick 2.
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That future first from Hawthorn could easily be pick 1
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Laughing at the comment "as they bring you all the drama as it unfolds
Seriously drama?
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Draft Profile: Josh Rachele
A crafty and composed threat in front of goal, this Bushranger firms as a top talent in his class.
By Mitch Keating
zerohanger.com
November 14, 2021
A member of the NAB League Team of the Year, Josh Rachele is one of the most exciting prospects in his class.
A threatening talent in attack, the Bushrangers star has a keen eye for goal and has shown an ability to impact the scoreboard from any angle.
The skilful medium-sized forward is set to warrant an early calling in the National Draft, as Rachele firms as the best player for his position.
The teenage sensation booted 11 goals from his four matches with Murray this year, also averaging 18.5 disposals, 6.3 marks and 3.8 tackles per game to be named at forward-pocket in the Team of the Year.
Also a representative for Vic Country and the AFL Academy side that faced Geelong's reserves earlier this year, Rachele has been able to utilise his limited exposure in 2021 to impress recruiters.
With his impressive balance as a crafty forward and that is capable of moving into the middle of the ground, Rachele is set to be a highly sought-after name in the opening 10 selections of the draft.
Stunningly, Rachele was a member of Australia's Under 17s soccer squad and had even been offered a scholarship by Melbourne City FC before opting to ply his trade with the Sherrin.
Team: Murray Bushrangers
Position: Forward/Midfielder
Height: 179cm
Weight: 81kg
Strengths
Kicking
Eye for goal
Agility
Match-winner
Composure
Pressure
Weaknesses
Consistency
Four-quarter efforts
Draft Range
4-8
Potential Landing Spots
Adelaide (Pick 4), Hawthorn (Pick 5), Fremantle (Picks 6 & 8)
AFL Comparisons
Toby Greene
Robbie Gray
Michael Walters
Expert Comments
"Small forward/midfielder who was scintillating in the NAB AFL Under 16 Championships in 2019 for Victoria Country averaging 26 disposals and winning its MVP as well as the overall division one best and fairest award. A crafty forward kicking six goals against the Northern Knights, averaging 2.8 goals in his four matches for the Murray Bushrangers this year." - Kevin Sheehan
"Everybody wants a gamechanger and Rachele has that capacity. The forward pocket rocket is damaging inside-50 and shapes as a player who will be pushing for selection in his debut season given he can hit the scoreboard in a number of ways." - Callum Twomey
https://www.zerohanger.com/draft-profile-josh-rachele-94269/
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Is this the Toby Greene like kid? Sounds good
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'I've learned to cop it': Flag hero's brother set to make his own name
SAM BUTLER remembers the moment his big brother Dan won his first premiership.
He also remembers the scenes just after the Richmond's 2017 Grand Final victory, when Sam himself – then just 14 years of age – got his own piece of priceless premiership memorabilia.
"You know that photo with Dusty and Dane Swan in the rooms? I'm in the background. I was pretty happy about that one," Sam laughed.
Four years on, Sam has developed into a tough 184cm mid-forward and is on the cusp of making more of his own memories at this month's NAB AFL Draft after an impressive season with the Greater Western Victoria Rebels.
While the two brothers are vastly different players – Sam has grabbed the attention of AFL recruiters as a clean, courageous and no-fuss midfielder who can shift into attack, while Dan is a potent and unrelenting pressure forward – they lean on each other for everything.
"With him getting traded and going to a different club, it gave me more of an insight into what it's like. You know what it was like at the Tigers and now the Saints. It's helped me prepare, if I was to get drafted, for life at an AFL club. I've seen those experiences and you know what the environments are like.
"I had previously gone to Richmond during Year 10 for work experience as well. When I was there, I pretty much did what I was doing at St Kilda but I washed a few towels and that as well."
Sam has fans in the top-20 of the draft, while a host of clubs with picks in the early stages of the second round would also be eager for the youngster to slide through the first night on November 24.
The interest comes after a campaign where Champion Data notes that Sam ranked No.1 in the NAB League for contested possessions (9.2 per game), tackles (4.8 ) and goals (0.8 ) among all mid-forwards.
https://www.afl.com.au/news/686252/-i-ve-learned-to-cop-it-flag-hero-s-brother-set-to-make-his-own-name
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Hawks fan on BF:
"there is a new rumour on our board that we are big into Gibcus at our first selection."
Suns fan on BF:
Got it on very good authority Suns pecking order is
Callaghan
Andrew
Gibcus
Dogs fan on BF:
Dogs chasing smalls, have interviewed Hugh Stagg and Paul Curtis multiple times.
https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/draft-rumours.1291947/page-6
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Vic draft guns strut their stuff on training track
Recruiters to take one last look at the state's talented youngsters ahead of next week's NAB AFL Draft
By Riley Beveridge
afl.com.au
15 November 2021
A COLLECTION of Victoria's best draft prospects braved the miserable conditions at Sandringham's Trevor Barker Oval on Monday, giving club recruiters one last look at the state's most talented youngsters ahead of next week's NAB AFL Draft.
Vic Metro's prospects were the first to slug it out in torrential rain and blustery wind, with Collingwood father-son gun Nick Daicos and fellow potential top-three pick Finn Callaghan among those taking part in the light session.
Western Jets youngster Paul Curtis was also involved in the program after overcoming his COVID-19 diagnosis from last month, while top-10 hopeful Josh Sinn made a successful return from hamstring and ankle injuries.
Western Bulldogs father-son prospect Sam Darcy missed with a foot injury, while St Kilda Next Generation Academy youngster Marcus Windhager (back), first-round chance Tyler Sonsie (ankle) and forward Anthony Caminiti (ankle) were also absent.
Vic Country did similar drills in more comfortable conditions later in the afternoon, giving their own top-10 prospects – including Josh Rachele, Ben Hobbs and Mac Andrew – a chance to shine.
But clever forward Sam Butler missed the session due to illness, while Josh Rentsch – the joint-winner of the Morrish Medal as the NAB League's best player this season – was also absent as he was sitting Year 12 exams.
The training session had been organised by the AFL to give clubs one final opportunity to put the state's best draft prospects through their paces, following another season that has been heavily interrupted by Victoria's COVID-19 situation.
The program, which was described by the League as a 'low intensity and craft-based skills session', was conducted by AFL Academy coach Tarkyn Lockyer and saw the players take part in a number of basic drills across the afternoon.
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Zac Taylor leads the way ahead of the NAB AFL Draft Victoria Training Day at Trevor Barker Oval on November 15, 2021. Picture: AFL Photos
https://www.afl.com.au/news/687376/update-vic-draft-guns-strut-their-stuff-on-training-track
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With what we currently have and looking mainly from the point of view of list needs.
9 Hobbs, Erasmus, Ward, Goater, Johnson one of. I think Gibcus and Amiss could be still be here and it will be interesting to see if we go tall or not. Both actually fit a big list need.
17 Goater, Knevitt, Draper, Fahey, Sonsie and possibly JVR one of. Think Goater could still be here reckon Fahey would be worth bidding on here.
If the first two picks go on mids it leaves us with options to take talls if we desire. Assuming it is two mids taken early then id go like this
26 Howes,
27 Bazzo, Alleer
28 Williams if not the kpf then Chesser Taylor possibly.
83 If we have not taken a tall defender then there is a few mature types who could be there.
Dean, Schlensog, Skinner, If we have taken a tall defender then i reckon Bailey Rogers and Greg Clark well worth a punt.
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Callum Twomey said Josh Ward wants to stay in Victoria. He's Hawk supporter. Twomey see him going to either Adel, Haw and Rich.
https://www.facebook.com/AFL/videos/448679226775181
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Pics from today's special training session for Victorian draftees:
The group today:
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Mac Andrew
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Jamieson Ballantyne
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Miller Bergman #64
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Finn Callaghan
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Campbell Chesser
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Judson Clarke
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Luke Cleary
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Toby Conway
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Justin Davies
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Charlie Dean
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Felix Flockart
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Josh Gibcus
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Cooper Hamilton
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Ben Hobbs
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Blake Howes
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Mitchell Knevitt
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Kai Lohmann
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Connor MacDonald
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Luke Nankervis
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Mitch Owens
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Sam Paea
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Corey Preston
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Josh Rachele
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Jai Serong
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Josh Sinn
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Hamish Sinnott
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Dante Visentini
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Josh Ward
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Darcy Wilmot
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https://www.aflphotos.com.au/galleries/results/?q=collection:AFL%202021%20Media%20-%20NAB%20AFL%20Draft%20Victoria%20Training%20Day
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The draft order will stay the same ahead of next week after there were no pick swaps lodged on the final day of the pick swap trade period. Deadline was 5pm today.
Josh Rachele was a standout on the track today at the Victorian training day. Buzzed around, skills terrific, real zip to his game. Going to be a powerful small forward early days and eventually a damaging midfielder/forward. Can't wait to watch him at AFL level.
Campbell Chesser back to his athletic best at training day today. His year was hit by a knee injury but was impressive with leap and movement.
Blake Howes also very good - a reason he's pushed into top-20 mix.
While ruck Toby Conway was also another to take the eye.
https://twitter.com/CalTwomey
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Is Nankervis related to Toby??
Hobbs and Chester look good
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Is Nankervis related to Toby??
Hobbs and Chester look good
Nankervis looks like a young Ivan Maric .. uncanny
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Is Nankervis related to Toby??
I don't think they are. Toby is from Tasmania whereas Luke plays for the Sandy Dragons and Bentleigh NFC in the Southern FL here in Victoria.
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Lucky I saw a photo of all these dudes i won’t see play for years
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Cal Twomey's Phantom Form Guide: Best draft prospects ranked (November 2016)
nb. Remember this is not a mock draft – it is our rankings of the best players and does not take into account where father-son or Academy bids could come.
1. Nick Daicos (Coll F/S) ........ Midfielder 183cm/72kg 3/1/03 Oakleigh Chargers/Vic Metro
2. Jason Horne-Francis .......... Midfielder 183cm/77kg 21/6/03 South Adelaide/South Australia
3. Sam Darcy (Dogs F/S) ....... Forward/defender 204cm/75kg 19/7/03 Oakleigh Chargers/Vic Metro
4. Finn Callaghan .................. Midfielder 189cm/82kg 26/4/03 Sandringham Dragons/Vic Metro
5. Ben Hobbs ....................... Midfielder 183cm/80kg 16/9/03 Greater Western Victoria Rebels/Vic Country
6. Josh Ward ........................ Midfielder 181cm/79kg 15/8/03 Northern Knights/Vic Metro
7. Josh Rachele .................... Forward/midfielder 180cm/78kg 11/4/03 Murray Bushrangers/Vic Country (+1)
8. Josh Gibcus ...................... Key defender 195cm/84kg 4/4/03 Greater Western Victoria Rebels/Vic Country (-1)
9. Mac Andrew ..................... Ruckman 200cm/70kg 12/4/03 Dandenong Stingrays/Vic Country
10. Neil Eramus .................... Midfielder/forward 188cm/80kg 2/12/03 Subiaco/Western Australia
11. Jye Amiss ....................... Key forward 195cm/83kg 31/7/03 East Perth/Western Australia
12. Nasiah Wanganeen-Milera .. Midfielder 187cm/69kg 22/2/03 Glenelg/South Australia
13. Josh Sinn ......................... Half-back/midfielder 186cm/73kg 7/1/03 Sandringham Dragons/Vic Metro
14. Matthew Johnson ......,...... Midfielder 192cm/80kg 16/3/03 Subiaco/Western Australia
15. Arlo Draper ..................... Midfielder/forward 185cm/71kg 20/1/03 South Adelaide/South Australia
16. Tyler Sonsie .................... Midfielder 181cm/77kg 27/1/03 Eastern Ranges/Vic Metro
17. Darcy Wilmot ................. Defender 183cm/75kg 31/12/03 Northern Knights/Vic Metro (+2)
18. Josh Goater .................... Midfielder 190cm/79kg 2/6/03 Calder Cannons/Vic Metro (-1)
19. Sam Butler .................... Midfielder/forward 184cm/73kg 10/2/03 Greater Western Victoria Rebels/Vic Country (-1)
20. Jacob Van Rooyen ........... Forward/defender 194cm/88kg 16/4/03 Claremont/Western Australia (+1)
21. Campbell Chesser ............ Midfielder/defender 186cm/83kg 27/4/03 Sandringham Dragons/Vic Country (+1)
22. Jesse Motlop ................... Forward 176cm/74kg 23/11/03 South Fremantle/Western Australia (-2)
23. Tom Brown .................... Defender 186cm/71kg 30/7/03 Murray Bushrangers/Vic Country
24. Blake Howes .................. Forward/midfielder 190cm/79kg 7/4/03 Sandringham Dragons/Vic Metro (+4)
25. Toby Conway .................. Ruckman 204cm/90kg 24/4/03 Geelong Falcons/Vic Country (-1)
26. Zac Taylor ...................... Midfielder 180cm/74kg 31/1/03 Calder Cannons/Vic Metro (-1)
27. Josh Fahey ..................... Defender 186cm/76kg 11/11/03 GWS Academy (-1)
28. Marcus Windhager ........... Midfielder 183cm/82kg 16/5/03 Sandringham Dragons/Vic Metro (+1)
29. Mitchito Owens ................ Midfielder 190cm/85kg 24/9/03 Sandringham Dragons/Vic Metro (+1)
30. Connor MacDonald ........... Midfielder 184cm/77kg 13/1/03 Dandenong Stingrays/Vic Country (+1)
31. Mitch Knevitt ................... Midfielder 193cm/81kg 8/1/03 Geelong Falcons/Vic Country (+1)
32. Rhett Bazzo ................. Key defender/forward 195cm/81kg 17/10/03 Swan Districts/Western Australia (+1)
33. Judson Clarke .................. Forward 180cm/70kg 17/10/01 Dandenong Stingrays/Vic Country (+2)
34. Jake Soligo ...................... Midfielder 179cm/80kg 25/1/03 Eastern Ranges/Vic Metro (new)
35. Angus Shedrick ................ Midfielder 179cm/86kg 7/11/03 Claremont/Western Australia (new)
Dropped out of Top 35:
Matthew Roberts ............. Midfielder/forward 183cm/81kg 31/7/03 South Adelaide/South Australia (-9)
Jack Williams .................. Key forward 195cm/91kg 1/12/03 East Fremantle/Western Australia (-2)
Hugh Jackson ................. Midfielder 181cm/70kg 3/5/03 North Adelaide/South Australia
Full summary of each potential draftee here: https://www.afl.com.au/news/687290/cal-twomeys-phantom-form-guide-top-draft-prospects-november-ranking
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HeraldSun's phantom draft has us getting:
9. Ben Hobbs
17. Josh Sinn
28. Zac Taylor
29. Rhett Bazzo
30. Brady Hough
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https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/draft/afl-mock-draft-2021-how-every-pick-from-every-round-could-fall/news-story/d0092b24244f7917011387d102f8a2db
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Callum Twomey said Josh Rachele has spoken to Richmond recently.
Giants at pick 2, Adelaide (very keen), Hawthorn, Richmond & Freo have interest in him.
https://www.afl.com.au/news/687821/listen-the-other-draft-jet-waiting-to-be-picked-a-lesson-for-hugh
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AFL Academy coach Tarkyn Lockyer has singled out two Vic Country prospects as standouts from Monday’s training session, which brought the best Victorian talent together for the first time in months.
“A couple of guys like Judson Clarke and Kai Lohmann in particular were really impressive (during Monday’s session).”
https://www.sen.com.au/news/2021/11/16/the-two-draft-prospects-that-shone-in-afl-academy-training-session/
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HeraldSun's phantom draft has us getting:
9. Ben Hobbs
17. Josh Sinn
28. Zac Taylor
29. Rhett Bazzo
30. Brady Hough
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https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/draft/afl-mock-draft-2021-how-every-pick-from-every-round-could-fall/news-story/d0092b24244f7917011387d102f8a2db
Could live with that haul.
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Mentioned this twice but tigers very keen on Kai Lohman.
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Here's the HeraldSun mock draft in selection order:
1. North - Horne-Francis
2. Coll - Daicos (Bid Matched)
3. Dogs- Darcy (Bid Matched)
4. GWS - Rachele
5. GC - Gibcus
6. Adel - Callaghan
7. Haw - Ward
8. Freo - Amiss
9. Rich - Hobbs
10. Freo - Erasmus
11. StK - Andrew
12. WC - Wanganeen-Millera
13. Rich - Josh Sinn .................. (they had us trading pick 17 & 30 to Essendon)
14. Port - Johnson
15. GWS - Van Rooyen
16. Bris - Goater
17. Ess - Chesser
18. Syd - Wilmot
19. Melb - Draper
20. Bris - Sonsie
21. Geel - Brown .......... (traded pick 32 & 34 to Freo)
22. GWS - Fayhe ......... (matched North's bid).
23. North - Aleer
24. Haw - Butler
25. Geel - Knivett
In the end they had us getting: Hobbs, Sinn, Taylor, Bazzo & Hough.
Some info on Hough:
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Brady Hough
Height: 189cm
Weight: 74kg
D.O.B: 05-03-2003
Leagues: WAFL League, WAFL Colts
POSITION: Medium Utility (OUTSIDE MIDFIELDER, MEDIUM FORWARD)
SNAPSHOT: "A versatile prospect who makes poised decisions with ball in hand, Hough is one of this year's biggest draft bolters."
Brady Hough has come a long way in the space of a year, rapidly rising to become Peel Thunder's top prospect and a surprise bolter among the West Australian hopefuls. Having shown promising form at Colts level, the 18-year-old earned state Under 19 selection and even cracked the League grade in his final WAFL outing for the year, taking to the level like a duck to water with 22 disposals, nine marks and a goal. With all he has achieved, it is easy to forget that 2021 marked Hough's maiden Colts campaign, for which he took out Peel's best first year player award. With the versatility to play on flanks at both ends of the ground or on either side of midfield, Hough catches the eye with his class on the ball and work rate off it.
STRENGTHS:
+ Versatility
+ Work rate
+ Disposal
+ Poise
+ Upside
IMPROVEMENTS:
- Exposure
- Midfield craft
One who was been employed on each line in 2021, Hough has done all he can to prove his worth no matter the task. His running capacity makes him a viable option on the wing, but he has the size and poise to play inside, while also showing great signs in roles at either end of the ground. That kind of versatility and the ability to adapt quickly to each situation is a real strength for Hough, and one which will play to his advantage not only at the draft table, but also in terms of selection.
Hough does a lot of his best work moving forward, showcasing great decision making and execution of his skills. By foot, he can hurt the opposition with carving kicks inside 50 and often hits his intended targets. His ability to create from further afield is somewhat credit to his composure, which can also be viewed in how he navigates tight spots. Hough is poised and moves well laterally for a player of his size (189cm), working his way to space and bustling through tackles if need be. In an added bonus, he also hits the scoreboard himself.
With the combination of sound decision making, movement, and solid running capacity, Hough is an effective outside player. He spent a good amount of time rotating through the centre bounces for Peel, but can continue to work on his inside craft to make full use of his clean handling and tall frame around the contest upon hitting the next level. Hough has all the tools to become a really effective utility in time, and his rate of development points to high upside.
Speaking of, Hough's improvement over the course of a year has been even more outstanding given his lack of exposure to such high levels. Hailing from the south-west of WA, Hough's first year of Colts footy was a massive one and rightly earned him a League dig. He fared well in his lone outing, and was also impactful at state Under 19s level, so continued exposure against the best competition possible is clearly serving him well, advancing his game at a good tick.
DRAFT PROJECTION: 35-60
SUMMARY:
One of the big improvers among his draft class, Hough has shot right into draft contention and has plenty of desirable traits which recruiters love. His exposed form over a full season of football and exposure to higher levels of competition should work in his favour, as well as his versatility as a developable type of talent. He looks most likely to attract interest in the third round, but could sneak a little higher up the order given his range of pros.
https://central.rookieme.com/afl/player/brady-hough/
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The @freodockers are ‘enamored’ with Finn Callaghan. Have met with the gun midfielder on multiple occasions - including one with Nat Fyfe.
They’d almost certainly have to move up in the draft to get him.
Giants, Suns, Crows, Hawks currently picking ahead of Freo.
@7NewsPerth
https://twitter.com/FootyRhino/status/1460510355063410688
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Hobbs is a Tiger supporter and loves Cotch :thumbsup.
Hobbs to it: Ben is a Rebel with a cause
By Owen Leonard
The Age
November 17, 2021
Whether it’s in football, tennis, golf, basketball, or even a game of cards, Ben Hobbs just wants to win.
The draft prospect out of the Greater Western Victoria Rebels is a competitive beast - an inside midfielder who tackles with intent, wins plenty of his own ball, and drifts forward to kick goals.
But his toughest competition yet did not come at a stoppage, nor on the fairway. It would not come in a fiery game of Texas hold ’em, either.
To even establish himself as the likely top-10 pick he has become, Hobbs had to win a battle with his own body first. The 18-year-old recalls drawing on his trademark competitiveness to overcome an ankle injury that threatened to derail his season back in April.
“It was frustrating,” Hobbs told The Age. “The first few days with it I really struggled, but as soon as I realised this would happen at AFL level, it just turned my mindset into getting back and playing good footy for the chance to get drafted. It was a bit of survival mode; I went pretty hard on getting back.”
Surgery soon followed, sidelining the hard-nosed prospect for nine weeks. Hobbs, however, found the silver lining in his lengthy lay-off.
“It set me back a bit, but I learnt a fair bit throughout that period on how my body handles an injury like that,” he said. “How surgery was, and how to get back and perform, so it was actually a blessing in disguise, I think.”
Hobbs’ eventual return to football was emphatic. He combined 34 touches with two goals and nine tackles against the Murray Bushrangers, and racked up 32-plus possessions in two of his next three contests before Victoria’s season-ending lockdown struck.
Hobbs’ undeniable fervour for football was first lit in Horsham, a town in western Victoria with a healthy connection to the sport. Before Hobbs, it had produced the likes of Craig and Brad Sholl, Adam Goodes, and Jake Lloyd.
The midfielder cracked state selection for the first time as an under-12.
“That really made me understand that I wasn’t too bad,” he said, modestly. “I wanted to keep making these representative teams. It moved on to [under] 15s, and at that stage, I wanted to be the best player on that team. It developed from there.”
Hobbs then made the move to Clarendon College in Ballarat, both in pursuit of his sporting goals, and in a desire to push himself academically. He remembers the boarding experience as “tough early on”, but he remains grateful for the opportunity.
“I’ve got a lot out of it and really matured as a person,” he said.
Clearly, Hobbs’ maturity is of note. He has already been earmarked as a future leader at the top level and captained Vic Country in games against the state’s Metro team earlier in the year.
“That was huge for me, I’m really proud of that,” he said. “Sadly, we didn’t actually get a carnival, but I got two games to be the captain, and leadership is something I feel strongly about. I see myself as a future leader at the next level.”
In a football sense, Hobbs’ leadership style has been inspired by Chris Judd and Richmond premiership skipper Trent Cotchin, of whom he is a particularly avid fan.
“I’ve listened to a few podcasts with Chris Judd and I think he was a fantastic leader,” Hobbs said. “I think Trent Cotchin has been an unreal leader as well, and I go for the Tigers so I’ve really watched ‘Cotch’ and I think he’s done huge things and really turned the club around.”
It comes as no surprise to learn that Hobbs focuses on leading by example, but he also places a firm emphasis on improving those around him.
“I like to get around my teammates and push them to be the best as well,” he said. “I can definitely be pretty vocal, and I think I know the game pretty well.”
But above all, this competitive beast leads to win.
“I like to win and compete. I don’t think twice about it. It’s been in my nature and my personality all the way through,” he said.
https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/hobbs-to-it-ben-is-a-rebel-with-a-cause-20211116-p599e9.html
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I want this kid with our first pick. Sold
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10 key questions ahead of the AFL Draft: Roos, Tigers ready for fruitful haul
Chris Doerre
ESPN
17 November 2021
How deep does this draft go?
This draft is one of the more even in recent years, and with its evenness comes solid depth. In most drafts, there tends to be a solid top-30 pool of prospects.
This year, there is an even group after those first few selections that carries all the way through to 40. Given this, picks inside the second round could place clubs in something of a value sweet spot in this draft, with little separating players expected to feature first round from those likely to be selected in the second round. Aside from the junior talent -- and despite the preseason supplemental selection period and midseason drafts reducing the pool of mature age talents available at the end of the year -- there still remain several capable mature-agers, only improving the depth of this draft.
Which clubs hold the strongest draft hand?
Holding picks 1, 20, 42 and 47 inside the top 50, there wouldn't be a club in the competition that wouldn't switch their draft hand with North Melbourne's. Richmond also have one of the most appealing draft hands, holding picks 7, 15, 26, 27 and 28 inside the top 30. With their concentration of picks inside the top 30, with good talent ID, Richmond should be able to add several quality young pieces this year.
Jason Horne-Francis is expected to be selected first, but who are some of those next names?
Aside from father-sons Nick Daicos and Sam Darcy who are sure to attract bids soon after Horne-Francis is selected, Jye Amiss, Mac Andrew, Finn Callaghan, Neil Erasmus, Josh Gibcus, Josh Goater, Ben Hobbs, Matthew Johnson, Josh Rachele, Josh Sinn, Nasiah Wanganeen-Milera and Josh Ward are expected to be among the next players chosen.
Who increased their draft stocks during the Under-19 Championships?
Western Australian midfield trio Angus Sheldrick, Matthew Johnson and Kade Dittmar were collectively the reason for their side going undefeated and convincingly winning the midfield battle in their matches against South Australia.
Johnson is set to feature inside the first round and is a part of the top 10 conversation, while Sheldrick likely features in the second or third round and Dittmar looks a likely later choice. Playing his best football for the year in defence, Jacob Van Rooyen, who has mostly played as a key forward, looked even better in defence and should feature late first or early second round on the back of his strong performances. South Australia's best during the Under-19 Championships, Nasiah Wanganeen-Milera solidified his position as a first-round choice and enters the mix on the back of his classy play. Emerging as one of the best rebounding defenders in this year's draft, Alastair Lord's dynamic line breaking run and ball use by foot stood out and place him in the second-round conversation. Starring for the Allies during their game against South Australia, Ronald Fejo Jr with his speed, silky skills and impact per possession increased the likelihood he gets picked on the back of his freakish play.
Whose draft stocks dipped during the Under-19 Championships?
One of the big names heading into the Under-19 Championships, Matthew Roberts was unable to exert his influence during the champs and was soundly beaten by the Western Australian midfielders. Given this, he is now viewed as likely to land somewhere in the second or third round.
Despite a dominant year in the WAFL Colts as a ball winning midfielder, Joshua Browne had limited midfield opportunity available due to others being prioritised. His draft stocks have taken a hit and Browne is now seen as a possible late draft consideration after being more highly touted earlier in the season.
Who are the most likely mature age recruits?
Leek Alleer, Charlie Dean, Noah Pegoraro, Ronald Fejo Jr, Casey Voss, Bailey Rogers, Greg Clark and Felix Flockhart are among the mature age prospects most likely to get selected in this year's draft. Alleer, Dean and Pegoraro have impressed and enjoyed breakout seasons as key defenders in the SANFL, VFL and WAFL respectively. On the outside, Fejo has caught the eye of draft watchers with his elite highlight reel while Voss, the son of Carlton coach Michael, enjoyed a breakout season in defence. Rogers emerged as the premier midfielder and forward outside the AFL while fellow Western Australian midfielder Greg Clark is another midfielder to have a strong season and continue his progression. As a ruckman, Flockhart's mobility has caught the eye and could see him join an AFL list in 2022.
How does the 2022 draft compare to this year's draft and should my club trade into it?
The major advantages of the 2022 draft, as it appears at this stage, is it is likely to be a stronger top 20, giving clubs a greater opportunity up the top end of the draft to add high quality key forwards. It is unlikely however that the 20-40 range in 2022 will prove as deep or possess as many quality midfielders or defenders as can be found in this year's pool, which is the most defining strength of this year's draft.
https://www.espn.com.au/afl/story/_/id/32646832/afl-2021-draft-chris-doerre-10-questions-ahead-afl-draft
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The AFL website thinking we'll have interest in Toby Conway.
However, such has been Conway's impressive season with Geelong Falcons and Vic Country, it's unlikely the business conducted during the AFL Trade Period will change the way they evaluate the 205cm youngster.
Richmond lost Callum Coleman-Jones and Mabior Chol during the Trade Period and could look to replace the pair with one of its five picks inside the top-30.
https://www.afl.com.au/news/687993/why-the-ruck-merry-go-round-put-this-draft-prospect-in-a-spin
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Based on what Twomey said today in his podcast, we're linked to Amiss at pick 9 and Sonsie at pick 17.
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Summary of Nat Edwards & Callum Twomey's latest draft rumour podcast:
* Dogs hoping a bid for Darcy doesn't come at pick 2 or 3 and he slides a couple of spots. They will then trade away pick 23 and trade back into the draft.
* Given GWS rejected moves from the Suns, Crows, Hawks & Tigers to trade for pick 2 then it's likely the Giants want Finn Callaghan.
* If the Suns miss out on Callaghan then Andrew comes in around that mark. Gibcus is the other one but the talk is around Andrew.
* Crows keen on Rachele. Courted by Richmond who have spoken to him recently. So he won't drop far if not snapped up by the Crows. He's the favourite to go to Adelaide. Crows also linked to Sinn & Wanganeen-Milera.
* Edwards said Ward and Johnson linked to the Hawks. Twomey says the Johnson talk to the Hawks is real. 193cm mid so he's a different type of midfielder. Ward is the "safer" choice. Hobbs would also be available.
* Freo's pick 8 (after bids) is the tactical pick given Richmond is squashed between Freo's top 10 picks. Does Gibcus get to the Dockers? Amiss? Do they go for Hobbs?
* Richmond has shown some interest in Amiss. Hobbs has be linked hard to Richmond for a long time but they've done hardly anything with him. The Tigers haven't spoken to Hobbs since April. So even if Hobbs is available will they take him?
* Freo's pick 10 - Johnson in the mix. Erasmus and Sinn also linked to the Dockers here.
* Slider? Gibcus is he doesn't go early could slide to St Kilda. Not really what they need but too good to pass up.
* Bolter? Wanganeen-Milera. Do West Coast take NWM or Erasmus if both available? Do Essendon take NWM or Sinn if both available?
* Butler won't end up at St Kilda with his brother unless they trade back. An early 20s pick.
* Wilmot, Chesser, Brown in the 15-25 mark.
* Sonsie linked to Richmond at pick 17.
* St Kilda's NGA Owens is expected (75%) to fall outside top 20 so they can bid for him. Giants and also Swans interested.
* Shedrick won't suit every club as clubs already have his type. Expected to go sometime in the second round.
* Intrigue over whether Freo who have the first pick of the second night use it or trade back given they'll know by the second night who is still available.
* Easy to get to 35 names picked. After that there's 50 names that may or may not be picked up. Expecting around the same number of picks used as last year (~60). Low number of rookie selections too. Only about 75 new faces across both drafts. Clubs will hold off until the supplementary and midseason drafts.
* Monday is when Twomey releases his final phantom draft.
https://www.afl.com.au/news/688126/listen-all-the-latest-whispers-ahead-of-the-draft
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Interview with Thursty:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OwIJCEx_Nj8&t=214s
:shh
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Interview with Thursty:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OwIJCEx_Nj8&t=214s
:shh
How significant is this year's draft with Richmond's five early picks (7, 15, 26, 27, 28)?
"It's a great opportunity to regenerate, while we're hoping to stay really competitive near the top of the ladder. You look through history and teams who have been able to nail those drafts and get some good young kids to develop while there are good players around them, which holds the club in good stead. Five inside-30s is really exciting and we feel like we've got some good guys identified."
Can you give us an insight into the work that has been done within the recruiting team in preparation for the draft?
"We've watched these kids from U15s and U16s, so although they haven't played a lot of footy over the last 18 months, we've got enough there and (the Victorian boys) did still play eight or nine games this year. (So we have) a pretty good handle on where they're at and combined with a lot of the background stuff that I've touched on, we feel like we're in a good spot."
What did you get out of the Victorian boys' fitness assessment at Trevor Barker Oval on the weekend, and do you feel you have enough to assess where they rank?
"We probably didn't change any thoughts, but it was really good to see them out there and interacting with one another. It was pretty important for them to get out there and enjoy themselves, they've had a tough year interrupted with their stuff, so it was good to see them. They're all in pretty good shape which was good to see. So, you'll be bringing guys in who aren't too far behind fitness-wise."
What characteristics are you looking for in your selections?
"It's a combination of things. It's their athleticism, it's their football talent, and it's also their character. You weigh up all these things and make a final decision and it might not be right, but that's the decision we'll come to. It's an exciting time of the year."
Full article: https://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/1031499/draft-a-great-opportunity-to-regenerate-says-thursfield
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A recruiter’s notes on the AFL draft crop of 2021
By Matt Rendell
The Age
November 17, 2021
I wrote a report on the 2021 draft prospects for Collingwood before I left the club back in 2019. Of course, the boys were mostly 16-year-olds then; it was pre-pandemic and a lot can change in two years. But for recruiters, there is still much to be gained from assessing the players two years out from the AFL draft.
I rated the under-16 championships in 2019 as excellent, and by association I loved the look of this year’s draft class, albeit two years out. The Vic Metro team was outstanding and were pushed all the way by an extremely competitive Vic Country team. South Australia and Western Australia were also good, but a distance behind, while NSW, Queensland, Northern Territory and Tasmania were a bit light on, although there were some standouts. This has been confirmed by the lack of academy players attached to the northern clubs this year.
Looking back at my notes, here’s how I assessed the top six at the time.
Josh Sinn
Looked outstanding running off half-back/wing with a raking left foot that travels over lines. Excellent speed/endurance and loves to take the game on. Played one game on-ball in the rain and on a heavy ground that you’d think wouldn’t suit, but he was very competitive. Can mark the ball as well, so playing him as a hybrid forward-mid is not out of the question. The only knock I had on his game was his short kick; he could miss to the right, but that is easily fixed. Think Josh Kelly from GWS, but probably has more dash.
Nick Daicos
Can play any position on the field except ruck. Has great composure, calmness with a sense of superiority – in a nice way, he is no big head. Highly skilled on both sides of his body and his decision-making is elite. Always has time and space. Very good aerially and has plenty of tricks in his kitbag. Good luck tackling him. Will be targeted physically, but it won’t worry him. Never seen a young player find the ball so easily and get from contest to contest with such ease.
Jason Horne-Francis
Super competitive, talented, highly skilled, influential, marks the ball very well. High-end decision-making, brilliant game sense and did I mention he’s tough, too? Plays with an intensity rarely seen. Athletically outstanding, can play forward, midfield or back. Has great composure, never gets flustered and I expect him to play senior SANFL footy for the next two years. Could be pick one or five, such is the top-end talent in this draft.
Tyler Sonsie
Played mainly as a high half-forward but will be a midfield-forward at AFL level. Great skills on both sides of his body and decision-making is excellent. Work rate and competitiveness I really liked. But his influence on games was elite to go with being a natural goal kicker.
Campbell Chesser
A big-bodied midfielder who is highly skilled and super competitive. Has genuine speed out of the contest, but I would like to see him run and carry more often. Very good aerially, which makes him a hybrid forward-midfielder as well. Extremely influential on games and has a strong work ethic.
Joshua Rachele
He’s the best No.6 in the draft you will ever see, and could easily be higher. Another hybrid forward-midfielder but is an outstanding mark for a 180-centimetre player. Another with huge influence on games and super decision-making. Plays tough and what I like about him most is he kicks goals in all manner of ways, making him an extremely difficult match-up for the opposition.
https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/a-recruiter-s-notes-on-the-afl-draft-crop-of-2021-two-years-out-20211117-p599m6.html
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Fox Footy - each club's preferred players:
1. North - Horne-Francis
2. Coll - Daicos
3. Dogs - Darcy
4. GWS - Callaghan
5. GC - Andrew
6. Adel - Rachele
7. Haw - Ward
8. Freo - Amiss
9. Rich - Hobbs
10. Freo - Gibcus
11. StK - Sinn
12. WC - Erasmus
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State of play: How three clubs hold the key to unlocking crucial AFL draft dominoes
Ben Waterworth
Fox Sports
November 17th, 2021 3:23 pm
Rival clubs are keeping close tabs on the Giants, Suns and Crows, with the three teams’ early first-round choices to dictate how the start of next week’s AFL national draft pans out.
The Giants have held on to Pick 2, despite ample interest from rival clubs in that selection since the end of the trade period. They’re expected to place a bid on Daicos and, likely, Bulldogs father-son prospect Sam Darcy, who is the best key-position player in this year’s draft class.
Both the Magpies and Bulldogs will have enough draft points accumulated to match the respective bids, ensuring Daicos will join Collingwood and Darcy will join the Bulldogs.
This is when it’ll get interesting.
Gold Coast, Adelaide, Hawthorn and Richmond have all shown strong interest in gun Sandringham Dragons midfielder Finn Callaghan, who has drawn comparisons to Bulldogs superstar Marcus Bontempelli. Foxfooty.com.au understands both the Suns and Crows made inquiries about trading up to Pick 2 in the hope of nabbing Callaghan, only for the offers to be rejected.
Despite suggestions the Giants were open to trading the selection, they’re now poised to take Pick 2 to the draft – unless they receive a godfather, too-good-to-refuse offer from a rival team on draft night.
Foxfooty.com.au understands the Giants have narrowed down their call at Pick 2 (which should become Pick 4 after bids) to four players: Callaghan, Dandenong Stingrays tall Mac Andrew, GWV Rebels defender Josh Gibcus and Murray Bushrangers small forward Josh Rachele.
The Giants for weeks have been heavily linked to Andrew, but it’s understood they’ve warmed to Callaghan, who coach Leon Cameron is a big fan of.
Should the Giants snare Callaghan, it would be a blow for the Suns, who’ve kept very close tabs on the on-baller.
Gold Coast would then face a tough conundrum. It could change tack and turn to a taller prospect like Andrew or Gibcus – the latter being the top intercept defender of this year’s draft class and a player that could fill a chasm on the Suns’ list – with their pick.
Foxfooty.com.au understands the Suns are leaning towards taking Andrew – a raw yet exciting 200cm prospect that can play across all thirds of the ground and would provide the Suns with ruck and key-position depth.
The Suns, though, could turn to a midfielder, particularly after they lost Hugh Greenwood – their second-best on-baller in 2021, per the AFL Player Ratings – to North Melbourne earlier this week. They’ve been linked to GWV Rebels’ Ben Hobbs – the best pure inside midfielder in the draft – while Josh Ward would also be in the mix.
Adelaide has the next selection. Whether that selection is legitimately up for grabs remains a talking point among recruiters.
As Foxfooty.com.au reported last month, the Crows have an interest in Rachele – an uber-talented forward-midfielder blessed with goalkicking nous, strong hands overhead, x-factor and an unwavering belief in his own ability. If Adelaide retains its first pick, it’s expected to take Rachele.
But rival teams believe the Crows would be prepared and willing to trade down the order if it meant they could still get their hands on their preferred prospect.
Multiple sources told Foxfooty.com.au the Crows have interest in Sandringham Dragons’ Josh Sinn and Glenelg’s Nasiah Wanganeen-Milera – two players seen as more likely to be taken towards the middle of the first round. So could the Crows trade picks with a rival club in the top 10 then settle on a player that would give them outside run?
Wanganeen-Milera, one of the best kicks in the draft, would address the Crows’ kicking issues – they had the worst kick rating and the third-worst kicking efficiency in the AFL this year – while Sinn would provide genuine dash off half-back or the wing.
Hawthorn holds Pick 5 – a selection that will turn into Pick 7 after the Darcy and Daicos bids. The Hawks, like many clubs, are still keen on Callaghan and could make a late play for the Giants’ first pick, but appear set to take their natural first-round selection to the draft.
The Hawks have been strongly linked to Northern Knights midfielder Ward – a Hawthorn supporter whose great grandfather Alex Lee played 31 games for the club between 1933 and 1935. He’s an on-baller with a terrific workrate that racks up a lot of the footy, both in contested and uncontested situations.
Rival clubs believe the Hawks have also been keeping tabs on outside ball-winners Wanganeen-Milera and WA’s smooth-moving on-baller Matthew Johnson.
After the Hawks, Fremantle enters the draft armed with Picks 6 and 8. And while the Dockers have publicly stressed they’re happy to target interstate talent, there are several gun WA-based prospects that would be appropriate to select with the selections the club has.
Foxfooty.com.au understands the Dockers have had a strong, long-time interest in East Perth’s Jye Amiss – the No. 1 pure key forward prospect in this year’s draft class that booted 51 goals in the WAFL colts in 2021. Ideally, the Dockers would take Amiss with their second top-10 pick, but the Tigers (Pick 7) also have interest in the 196cm prospect and could force the Dockers to pick him earlier – if they want him that desperately.
Richmond has been linked to Hobbs for many weeks, with reports suggesting the Tigers see the Rebels prospect as a replacement for Trent Cotchin. While the Suns and Crows have some interest, there’s a chance Hobbs, who averaged 29.2 disposals and 6.2 clearances in the NAB League this season, slips to the Tigers without them having to make a trade. But if any of Rachele, Gibcus or Ward were still on the board, they’d face a tough choice.
The Dockers have also been linked to Rachele and Gibcus. Rachele could help address the Dockers’ pressure issue while being that maximum impact player – in that most of his disposals lead to scores for his team – while Gibcus could bring stability to a Dockers tall defensive group that has struggled for continuity and consistency over recent years.
If he’s still on the board, Subiaco’s Johnson looms as a genuine contender to be drafted by the Dockers with their second selection. The composed on-baller had a strong finish to his 2021 campaign, starring in the WAFL reserves, winning WA best on ground honours in an Under 19 challenge game against SA at Optus Stadium on AFL Grand Final day then recording top-10 results in three draft combine tests.
St Kilda then enters the draft at Pick 9 – and if it’s case of addressing list needs, the Saints should be after some polish in the midfield to improve their clearance efficiency, or a key defender following the departures of Jake Carlisle, Oscar Clavarino, James Frawley and Dylan Roberton.
Foxfooty.com.au understands the Saints are strongly considering Sinn, whose ability to break lines with speed and long kicking has captured the attention of recruiters throughout the year. But if Gibcus slipped through, the Saints would likely pounce on him, while the outside class of Wanganeen-Milera and Johnson would be hard for them to ignore. Exciting midfielder-defender Josh Goater would also come into calculations.
Goater’s electric speed, high vertical leap and WA-based family connections would also appeal to West Coast, which rounds out the top 10 – which will become the top 12 – of the draft.
But Foxfooty.com.au understands the Eagles are big fans of local Subiaco midfielder-forward Neil Erasmus. An exciting player blessed with footy smarts and strong overhead marking, Erasmus was the second-highest ranked player in the WAFL colts this year, according to Champion Data, and ranked among the top five players for disposals, contested possessions, intercept marks, clearances and score assists.
https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/draft/afl-draft-2021-phantom-draft-top-10-predictions-state-of-play-trades-most-important-picks-prospects-finn-callaghan-mac-andrew/news-story/0fb12ec9fddf754a5f696fad9cb4ba71
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Rookie Me Central website (formerly AFL Draft Central) has their draft guide out now with detailed profiles:
https://f.hubspotusercontent40.net/hubfs/7188497/2021%20AFL%20Draft%20Guide_Opt.pdf?utm_medium=email&_hsmi=183771737&_hsenc=p2ANqtz--eXkhR0Jrf5KknMccd9j8LjL0pxRF2Cckus0lG76zzGR6oZqcp3iVXbGluc3D6usWRLGwpMMZtZ-WSZrLjRDUfCj3cig&utm_content=183771737&utm_source=hs_email (https://f.hubspotusercontent40.net/hubfs/7188497/2021%20AFL%20Draft%20Guide_Opt.pdf?utm_medium=email&_hsmi=183771737&_hsenc=p2ANqtz--eXkhR0Jrf5KknMccd9j8LjL0pxRF2Cckus0lG76zzGR6oZqcp3iVXbGluc3D6usWRLGwpMMZtZ-WSZrLjRDUfCj3cig&utm_content=183771737&utm_source=hs_email)
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So are we really after Amiss or are we trying to spook Freo into taking him @8 leaving a good midfielder for us??
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Amiss would be a good grab, he is pretty bloody slick, sticks marks almost lazily despite pressure, and nails goals. Would not be unhappy with that pick
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Greater Western Sydney are seriously considering selecting close childhood friends Finn Callaghan and Blake Howes with their opening two picks at next week’s AFL draft in the hope the pair would remain together deep into their careers.
On the other hand, if the Giants drafted Callaghan and opted against picking Howes with their next selection, Victorian clubs would be aware that picking the latter could give them an opportunity to reunite the pair in the future.
https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/giants-consider-drafting-mates-to-counter-go-home-factor-20211117-p599m4.html
Neil Erasmus interview:
https://www.afl.com.au/video/688137/class-of-2021-patience-paying-dividends-for-draft-star-erasmus?videoId=688137&modal=true&type=video&publishFrom=1637190000001
Josh Gibcus article:
https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/ability-to-jump-over-small-buildings-gibcus-leaps-into-top-10-draft-reckoning-20211118-p599zj.html
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Based on what Twomey said today in his podcast, we're linked to Amiss at pick 9 and Sonsie at pick 17.
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* Richmond has shown some interest in Amiss. Hobbs has be linked hard to Richmond for a long time but they've done hardly anything with him. The Tigers haven't spoken to Hobbs since April. So even if Hobbs is available will they take him?
* Sonsie linked to Richmond at pick 17.
Here's a draft profile of Sonsie.
Draft Profile: Tyler Sonsie
Tyler Sonsie is a damaging midfielder whose two-sided kick is unmatched in this year's draft class.
The teenager's work at the contest is marked by an incredible decision-making ability, while he can also go forward and hit the scoreboard.
With a high footy IQ, Sonsie is a balanced midfielder and has the ability to both win the ball at the contest and use it on the outside.
His stoppage work is elite, using his clean hands and intelligent read of the play to advance the ball forward.
The Victorian continued toiling and adding to his craft for the Eastern Ranges, playing a solid 13-matches for the season. Given his form, Sonsie has been on clubs' radars since he was awarded Vic Metro’s Most Valuable Player at the under-16 level.
A sole, yet standout, VFL outing saw him collect 24-disposals, five tackles and two goals for Box Hill in May. That game sparked intense interest in the 18-year-old, as he proved he was more than adept at the next level.
While the AFL Academy name is expected to be taken in the latter stages of the first round, his talent warrants an earlier selection, however, an inconsistent and injury-ridden season has seen him fall down the ranks with recruiters.
Earlier in the year, he was touted as a top-five pick and still remains an outside chance to do so.
Team: Eastern Ranges/Vic Metro
Position: Midfielder
Height: 181cm
Weight: 77kg
Strengths
Scoreboard impact
Clean hands
Kicking
Clearances
Agility
Weaknesses
Consistent form
Two-way running
Draft range
Late First round (Pick 10-18)
Potential landing spots
GWS Giants (Pick 13), Brisbane Lions (Pick 14), Richmond (Pick 15), Melbourne (Pick 17)
AFL Comparisons
Adam Cerra
Trent Cotchin
Expert Comments
“He’s in the best few players on the ground in this game (for Box Hill in the VFL), kicks a couple of goals and 24 disposals, so all the Hawks wouldn’t have missed that. No one’s missed it in fact, all of the clubs talk about that as such an important performance for a boy when given his first chance to step up." - AFL Talent Ambassador Kevin Sheehan.
(https://www.zerohanger.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/11/GettyImages-1314105012-1068x712.jpg)
https://www.zerohanger.com/draft-profile-tyler-sonsie-94480/
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According to Twomey on today's podcast:
* Erasmus to go around 10-17. Richmond would be interested if he made it through to their pick 15 (17 after bids).
* Sonsie has lots of talent but missed a lot of footy this year due to a knee injury. Currently has an ankle injury. Richmond at pick 17 interested as well as the Hawks in the 20s.
* Callaghan expected to go to the Giants and Andrew to the Suns.
* Expect the Dogs to trade out pick 23. Geelong favourite to get it.
https://www.afl.com.au/video/688175/eagles-draft-dilemma-potential-second-round-steals?videoId=688175&modal=true&type=video&publishFrom=1637203744001
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AFL analyst's mock draft:
1. North - Horne-Francis
2. Coll - Daicos (matched bid)
3. Dogs - Darcy (matched bid)
4. GWS - Andrew
5. GC - Gibcus
6. Adel - Callaghan
7. Haw - Hobbs
8. Freo - Amiss
9. Rich - Ward
10. Freo - Erasmus
11. StK - Goater
12. WC - Johnson
13. Ess - Rachele
14. Port - Wanganeen-Milera
15. GWS - Van Rooyen
16. Bris - Wilmot
17. Rich - Sinn
18. Syd - Draper
https://www.instagram.com/afl_analyst/
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Would take Erasmus before Ward and Rachelle before either.... :shh
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November latest: Relentless inside midfielder Hobbs has been reportedly linked to the Tigers and they have also shown a keen interest in Ward, but the Northern Knights product may become a Hawk with the previous pick. Key forward Amiss is also in the mix and would address another glaring need. Goater would be difficult to resist if he fell to Richmond’s second selection, or will the the Tigers pounce on another Butler? As for their trio of picks in the 30s, Richmond has shown interest in crafty forward Motlop, while Bazzo could come into the equation as a tall defender.
https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/draft/afl-draft-2021-ultimate-guide-every-clubs-picks-list-needs-and-targets/news-story/5b9dd13a585b04bd10493a09f8e8794f
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Would take Erasmus before Ward and Rachelle before either.... :shh
Dont rate erasmus. I wouldnt pick him in the top 30 players myself.
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AFL analyst's mock draft:
1. North - Horne-Francis
2. Coll - Daicos (matched bid)
3. Dogs - Darcy (matched bid)
4. GWS - Andrew
5. GC - Gibcus
6. Adel - Callaghan
7. Haw - Hobbs
8. Freo - Amiss
9. Rich - Ward
10. Freo - Erasmus
11. StK - Goater
12. WC - Johnson
13. Ess - Rachele
14. Port - Wanganeen-Milera
15. GWS - Van Rooyen
16. Bris - Wilmot
17. Rich - Sinn
18. Syd - Draper
https://www.instagram.com/afl_analyst/
Would be an excellent 1st and 2nd selection for us.
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GUN DRAFT PROSPECT JOSH SINN PICKS HIS PHANTOM TOP 10
By Andrew Slevison
SEN
19 November 2021
10. Neil Erasmus
Midfielder/forward - Subiaco/Western Australia
“I haven’t had much to do with Neil. I met him on the Academy camp at the start of the year.
“I didn’t have any expectations at all and in a game where they (WA) lost by 100 points or so, Neil really stood out as a mature player who likes to embrace the contest.”
9. Matthew Johnson
Midfielder - Subiaco/Western Australia
“Another WA boy. Very lucky I got to room with him on that Aus camp.
“That game he played through the midfield against (Geelong) VFL players, he really stood his ground and his athletic ability is quite special as a tall midfielder.”
8. Campbell Chesser
Midfielder/defender - Sandringham Dragons/Vic Country
“A little bit biased here, but it’s only because I’ve had a lot to do with him over the past three years.
“I’ve really been able to see what he’s been able to do.
“Campbell’s a really hard worker. He’s really skilful, really talented and he’s a really good leader as well, quite mature for his age.”
7. Josh Ward
Midfielder - Northern Knights/Vic Metro
“He’s a grunt, inside mid with really clean hands.
“He’s someone you can rely on week in, week out. Always puts his head in the hole.”
6. Josh Rachele
Forward/midfielder - Murray Bushrangers/Vic Country
“He’s the Toby Greene 2.0. He’s really exciting. He kicks goals that some dream of kicking.
“He’s a really swift mover who can even play midfield as well.”
5. Mac Andrew
Ruckman/forward/defender - Dandenong Stingrays/Vic Country
“Big Mac. He can play any position on the ground.
“He’s very much similar to Sam Darcy, the way they both move. They move around there around the ground pretty well for 200-plus centimetres.”
4. Sam Darcy
Forward/defender/ruckman - Oakleigh Chargers/Vic Metro
“His skills below his knows for his height, I don’t think I’ve seen anything like it.
“He can play.”
3. Nick Daicos
Midfielder - Oakleigh Chargers/Vic Metro
2. Jason Horne-Francis
Midfielder - South Adelaide/South Australia
“Some of his highlights speak for themself.
“Why he’s got a bit of a comparison with Nat Fyfe is that he’s good above his head and good below his knees as well.
“He’s just a real competitor. He works really hard and he always wants to be the best.”
1. Finn Callaghan
Midfielder - Sandringham Dragons/Vic Metro
“His ability to get the ball and use it a high level.
“Something that stands out is his ability to cover the whole ground. When he plays midfield, he doesn’t just stick in the forward half, he really works his backside off to get into D50 as well.
“They way he has progressed and kept developing, it’s pretty crazy.
“I actually can’t imagine what he’s going to do, not only next year, but in the years to come.”
https://www.sen.com.au/news/2021/11/18/gun-draft-prospect-picks-his-phantom-top-10/
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November's AFL Draft Power Rankings: No. 1 player locked in as bolters make their move
Chris Doerre
ESPN
19 November 2021
ESPN.com.au's expert Chris Doerre has revealed his AFL Draft Power Rankings for the month of November with less than a week to go until the big night.
1. Jason Horne-Francis
2. Nick Daicos (Collingwood - Father-Son)
3. Sam Darcy (Western Bulldogs - Father-Son)
4. Finn Callaghan
5. Josh Ward
6. Neil Erasmus
7. Matthew Johnson
8. Mac Andrew
9. Leek Alleer
10. Josh Rachele
11. Angus Sheldrick
12. Zac Taylor
13. Ben Hobbs
14. Nasiah Wanganeen-Milera
15. Josh Gibcus
16. Jye Amiss
17. Arlo Draper
18. Bodhi Uwland
19. Mitch Owens
20. Mitch Knevitt
Full profiles and reasoning here: https://www.espn.com.au/afl/story/_/id/32662089/afl-draft-2021-phantom-draft-power-rankings-november-no-1-player-jason-horne-francis-locked-draft-night-nears
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After their two first-round selections, the Giants’ final pick of the draft should see them matching a bid on their top academy prospect Josh Fahey – a speedy defender/wingman that was adjudged the AFL academy’s best player in a clash against Geelong’s VFL side in April and ran the second-fastest 2km trial time (captured by Strava) during the recent draft combine.
Foxfooty.com.au understands Richmond, which holds Picks 26, 27 and 28 on top of its two first-rounders, has shown interest in Fahey and could bid on him using one of those three consecutive second-round selections.
https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/draft/afl-draft-2021-bidding-system-rules-explained-draft-value-index-points-fatherson-academy-nominees-nick-daicos-sam-darcy/news-story/8469307734b7a8650be8df10c9c72bc5
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If we like him and he is the best available at 15 (17) we should pick him and force GWS to make a harder choice. They would go into major deficit for next years draft if we pick him at 17 and they match. Great kick of the footy. Is Fahey. Excellent user of the footy.
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Chris Dores got no idea, why would we pick a player at 9 who will be likely there at 28
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He's a clueless Colliflog... :shh
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From one of BF's draft watchers eDPS (Ed Pascoe):
Here they are the final rankings for 2021, only 11 names from the start of the year remain in the 20. Plenty of unlucky names with the draft very even in the 2nd round.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FEgIyvCVcAEiKLF?format=jpg&name=large)
https://twitter.com/EdPascoe_eDPS
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These Hawk fans did a first round phantom draft.
They chose Ward for Hawthorn and Gibcus & Zac Taylor for Richmond.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dd6N3WDwHus
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Fremantle will be looking to ‘get the best combination possible’ with its two top 10 picks in next week’s NAB AFL National Draft:
https://www.fremantlefc.com.au/news/1031995/draft-preview-freos-plan-of-attack
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7news last night when interviewing Hobbs said he was linked to Hawthorn and Richmond.
Go to 1:15 min mark: https://twitter.com/7NewsMelbourne/status/1461603700657455105
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Each club's finalised picks in the draft
Adelaide 4, 33, 74, 76, 87
Brisbane 14, 18, 41
Carlton 25, 63, 78
Collingwood 36, 38, 40, 46, 48, 58
Essendon 11, 51, 56, 83, 88, 91
Fremantle 6, 8, 19, 60, 68, 80
Geelong 22, 30, 32, 34, 50
Gold Coast 3, 86, 90
GWS Giants 2, 13, 53, 54, 70
Hawthorn 5, 21, 24, 59, 64, 77
Melbourne 17, 37, 49, 57
North Melbourne 1, 20, 42, 47, 71, 75
Port Adelaide 12, 62, 72, 73, 85
Richmond 7, 15, 26, 27, 28, 79
St Kilda 9, 55, 61, 65, 66, 81
Sydney 16, 31, 39, 69, 84, 89
West Coast 10, 29, 35, 67, 82
Western Bulldogs 23, 43, 44, 45, 52
https://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/1031841/final-draft-order-check-out-richmond-s-picks
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Chris Dohre seems to do his draft on ability not on the likelyhood of a club drafting them.
He would be aware that we will be taking a midfielder/s with out early picks.
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Those kids in the range of our late 20s picks according to Fox Footy:
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Foxfooty.com.au presents the first part of the 2021 AFL Draft Power Rankings, with players rated 26 to 50 and presented in reverse order.
Note: This is not a ‘phantom draft’ predicting where players will be taken across the draft nights.
Full profiles in the link below to this article:
50. MITCH COX .......................... Position: Utility .............................. Size: 190cm, 81kg
49. ALASTAIR LORD .................... Position: General defender .............. Size: 181cm, 75kg
48. NOAH PEGORARO .................. Position: Tall defender .................... Size: 194cm, 88kg
47. JOSH BROWNE ...................... Position: Midfielder ........................ Size: 185cm, 78kg
46. JAKE SOLIGO ........................ Position: Small forward-midfielder ... Size: 179cm, 80kg
45. COOPER MURLEY ................... Position: Midfielder ........................ Size: 180cm, 71kg
44. CASEY VOSS ......................... Position: General defender ............. Size: 182cm, 80kg
43. JACK AVERY .......................... Position: Tall defender ................... Size: 189cm, 82kg
42. MARCUS WINDHAGER ........... Position: Midfielder ........................ Size: 183cm, 82kg
41. COREY WARNER .................... Position: Midfielder ....................... Size: 181cm, 73kg
40. PAUL CURTIS ........................ Position: General forward .............. Size: 183cm, 73kg
39. CHARLIE DEAN ..................... Position: Tall defender ................... Size: 195cm, 86kg
38. NED LONG ............................ Position: Midfielder ....................... Size: 195cm, 92kg
37. JAMES WILLIS ...................... Position: Midfielder ........................ Size: 181cm, 76kg
36. JACK WILLIAMS .................... Position: Tall forward ..................... Size: 194cm, 95kg
35. ANGUS SHELDRICK ............... Position: Midfielder ........................ Size: 179cm, 88kg
34. MATTHEW ROBERTS .............. Position: Midfielder ........................ Size: 184cm, 80kg
33. CONNOR MACDONALD ........... Position: Midfielder ........................ Size: 184cm, 77kg
32. TOBY CONWAY ..................... Position: Ruck ............................... Size: 204cm, 90kg
31. JOSH FAHEY ........................ Position: General defender .............. Size: 186cm, 76kg
30. JUDSON CLARKE ................. Position: Small forward ................... Size: 179cm, 69kg
29. RHETT BAZZO .................... Position: Tall defender ..................... Size: 194cm, 81kg
28. JESSE MOTLOP ................... Position: Small forward ................... Size: 176cm, 75kg
27. LEEK ALLEER ..................... Position: Tall defender ..................... Size: 195cm, 81kg
26. MITCHELL KNEVITT ............ Position: Midfielder .......................... Size: 193cm, 8kg
Apologies to these players (in no particular order) that missed out on the top 50 …
— Blake Schlensog (South Fremantle, 199cm, 99kg)
— Kade Dittmar (East Perth/Western Australia, 185cm, 86kg)
— Sam Banks (Tasmania, 187cm, 73kg)
— Lachie Rankin (Oakleigh Chargers/Vic Metro, 182cm, 68kg)
— Miller Bergman (Dandenong Stingrays/Vic Country, 188cm, 65kg)
— Cooper Hamilton (Bendigo Pioneers/Vic Country, 182cm, 86kg)
— Jase Burgoyne (Woodville-West Torrens/South Australia, 186cm, 65kg)
— Taj Woewodin (East Fremantle/Western Australia, 183cm, 77kg)
— Lewis Rayson (Glenelg/South Australia, 183cm, 69kg)
— Josh Rentsch (GWV Rebels/Vic Country, 197cm, 100kg)
— Greg Clark (Subiaco, 193cm, 94kg)
— Eric Benning (Claremont/Western Australia, 196cm, 83kg)
— Dante Visentini (Sandringham Dragons/Vic Metro, 201cm, 88kg)
https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/draft/afl-draft-2021-rankings-november-afl-draft-2021-news-phantom-form-guide-50-to-26-part-1-mitch-knevitt-jesse-motlop-casey-voss/news-story/e1f32cdf8b7272e78734022074fd278a
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How your club stands ahead of the 2021 draft
By Peter Ryan and Owen Leonard
The Age
November 20, 2021
RICHMOND
PICKS: 7, 15, 26, 27, 28, 83
KEY DEFENDERS: Noah Balta, Nathan Broad, Robbie Tarrant, Ben Miller.
SMALL/MEDIUM DEFENDERS: Nick Vlastuin, Dylan Grimes, Jayden Short, Liam Baker, Sydney Stack.
MIDFIELDERS: Dustin Martin, Dion Prestia, Shane Edwards, Shai Bolton, Trent Cotchin, Kane Lambert, Kamdyn McIntosh, Jack Graham, Marlion Pickett, Jack Ross, Thomson Dow, Riley Collier-Dawkins, Will Martyn, Hugo Ralphsmith, Matthew Parker.
KEY FORWARDS: Tom Lynch, Jack Riewoldt, Bigoa Nyuon.
SMALL/MEDIUM FORWARDS: Jason Castagna, Daniel Rioli, Jake Aarts, Maurice Rioli, Josh Caddy.
RUCKS: Toby Nankervis, Ivan Soldo, Samson Ryan.
With five selections inside the top 30, Richmond have an excellent chance to replenish their list soon after a golden era that yielded three premierships.
The prized pick seven could be used on a strong midfielder such as Josh Ward, Ben Hobbs or Neil Erasmus or an intercept marking defender such as Josh Gibcus. The Tigers would also be remiss to not consider Jye Amiss as champion forward Jack Riewoldt nears the end of his career, particularly after losing Mabior Chol and Callum Coleman-Jones in the trade period, however they will pick the best player available rather than draft for need at such a high pick. They also like Josh Rachele, but sources suspect Adelaide will take him off the table before the Tigers step up to the plate.
The second pick may slide or go up the draft depending on pick swaps and who is available, but there will be plenty of good players available at their second pick such as Darcy Wilmot, Campbell Chesser or Tyler Sonsie, with the club also well-placed to enter any discussions about pick swaps with 26, 27 and 28 in their hand.
Noah Cumberland will be re-rookied*.
https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/how-your-club-stands-ahead-of-the-2021-draft-20211118-p59a1f.html
* The last sentence isn't correct according to Cumberland himself. He's been re-added to the senior list.
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Why are they still doing the draft over two nights... :banghead
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Chris Dohre seems to do his draft on ability not on the likelyhood of a club drafting them.
He would be aware that we will be taking a midfielder/s with out early picks.
Your kidding arent ya. We have a one year window with what players we have and for fcuck sakes our tall stocks moving forward are abysmal. you know what i mean looking past next year or the next.
As far as youngish kpp's go there is Balta and then nothing. You are going to be greatly disappointed if we take Gibcus or Amiss or even Andrew with our first pick and it is really on the cards depending on which mids get ntaken early.
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Word is this year is a midfielder's draft, next year's draft will be a bumper crop for talls while this year is shyte - all the higher rated ones are only there by default and would be third rounders in most other years.... :shh
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Will we see any bombshell live trades involving top-10 picks?
Multiple clubs have already tried to orchestrate moves over the past few months, yet none have succeeded. That doesn’t mean no big moves will go down on Wednesday and Thursday, though. The Giants’ Pick 2 has been in hot demand, as reported by foxfooty.com.au last month, with multiple clubs keen to trade up to that selection in order to get their hands on young gun midfielder Finn Callaghan. Gold Coast (Pick 3), Adelaide (Pick 4), Hawthorn (Pick 5), Fremantle (Pick 6) and Richmond (Pick 7) have all been heavily linked to the left-footed Callaghan, with both the Suns and Crows already making inquiries. But foxfooty.com.au understands the Giants are now poised to take Pick 2 to the draft … unless they receive a godfather, too-good-to-refuse offer from a rival team on draft night. Clubs are also keeping tabs on Adelaide, which holds Pick 4. If the Crows retain their first pick, they’re expected to take Josh Rachele. But rival teams believe the Crows would be prepared and willing to trade down the order if it meant they could still get their hands on their preferred prospect. Multiple sources told foxfooty.com.au the Crows have interest in Sandringham Dragons’ Josh Sinn and Glenelg’s Nasiah Wanganeen-Milera. The Giants also hold Pick 13 and are one of three clubs with two first-round picks, along with Richmond and the Brisbane Lions. Don’t be surprised if the latter two, or even Essendon and reigning premiers Melbourne, attempted to move up the order in the first round. One recruiter told foxfooty.com.au last month they expected the middle to latter stages of the first round to be “red-hot” due to the number of pick swaps they’re anticipating.
https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/draft/afl-draft-2021-start-time-afl-draft-2021-date-how-to-watch-on-tv-live-news-prospects-nominees-nominations-list/news-story/2d62ece85436b5f2d81db6f05a70cc14
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Hard-working Ward wills his way into the draft.
https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/hard-working-ward-wills-his-way-into-the-draft-20211119-p59adq.html
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Kevin Sheehan's top 40 draft prospects: Who has traits like the Bont?
https://www.afl.com.au/news/688211/kevin-sheehan-s-top-40-draft-prospects-who-has-traits-like-the-bont-
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Why are they still doing the draft over two nights... :banghead
Because it makes it so much cooler and suspenseful.
Lol
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West Australian view of the draft:
Phantom draft: Dockers set for ‘west is best’ approach
The West Australian’s draft expert Jordan McArdle predicts how the top 21 will fall. How many WA players will hear their names called out - and who will Freo and West Coast poach?
1. Horne-Francis
2. Daicos
3. Darcy
4. Callaghan
5. Andrew
6. Rachele
7. Hobbs
8. Amiss
9. Johnson
10. Erasmus
11. Gibcus
12. Wanganeen-Milera
13. Ward
14. Sinn
15. Goater
16. Sonsie
17. Van Rooyen
18. Wilmot
19. Draper
20. Chesser
21. Motlop
https://thewest.com.au/sport/afl-draft/afl-draft-2021-jordan-mcardles-phantom-draft-for-the-first-21-picks--c-4625417
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Buckenara: Mature-age draft gems your club should consider
Does your club need an immediate boost? Former Hawthorn recruiter Gary Buckenara assesses all the mature-age draft hopefuls, and ranks the top 50 prospects.
https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/afl-national-draft-gary-buckenara-rates-his-50-best-prospects/news-story/2f8b347644d4fed283b06d205988fb32
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* Mitchell is a big fan of Johnson, Hawks weighing up between him and Ward.
* Saints, Dockers, Tigers and Power all have interest in Johnson, too.
* Amiss firming for the Dockers at 6, Erasmus a chance at 8.
* Eagles linked with NWM, could also swoop on Erasmus or Johnson if available.
* GWS, Richmond and Sydney among likely destinations for Van Rooyen.
https://thewest.com.au/sport/afl-draft/afl-draft-2021-hawthorn-coach-sam-mitchell-takes-liking-to-subiacos-matt-johnson--c-4617424
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Full AFL Draft Power Rankings: The top 50 young stars of 2021 rated 1 to 50
Ben Waterworth
Fox Sports
November 22st, 2021
The 2021 draft class is full of star ‘hybrid’ players that can perform in multiple areas of the ground.
Foxfooty.com.au presents the second part of the 2021 AFL Draft Power Rankings, with players rated 1 to 25 and presented in reverse order.
Note: This is not a ‘phantom draft’ predicting where players will be taken across the draft nights.
1. JASON HORNE-FRANCIS
Position: Midfielder
Size: 184cm, 81kg
Club: South Adelaide/Christie Beach/South Australia
AFL player comparison: Patrick Dangerfield
Veteran North Melbourne recruiter Scott Clayton dubbed Horne-Francis “as good as any No. 1 in years I can remember”. Fair wrap – and one many recruiters are happy to give considering Horne-Francis has shown an ability to influence and change matches against players his own age, as well as SANFL league players older than him. The South Adelaide product is not only powerful and aggressive at the contest but also possesses an awesome aerobic base. He’s courageous, selfless, classy by foot on the outside and can push forward to hit the scoreboard. Horne-Francis’ SANFL league preliminary final performance against Glenelg (3 goals, 24 disposals, 18 contested possessions, 11 clearances, 10 score involvements and 160 Champion Data ranking points) perhaps sealed his fate as the No. 1 pick. The Kangaroos received two offers during the trade period – one from Adelaide then another from Richmond – in a bid to entice them to trade away the first pick of this year’s national draft. Both advances were rejected by the Roos – because they want Horne-Francis. And they’ll get him.
2. NICK DAICOS
Position: Midfielder
Size: 183cm, 72kg
Club: Oakleigh Chargers/Kew Rovers/Vic Metro
AFL player comparison: Zach Merrett
Park the famous father-son link and focus on Daicos the footballer – a genuine star and arguably the best player in this year’s draft class for his skills, vision, run and footy IQ. The definition of a ball magnet, Daicos led the NAB League for disposals (35.8) and uncontested possessions (23.0) this year, while he also kicked two goals per match. Daicos, the son of Collingwood champion and premiership star Peter Daicos, averaged a lazy 40-plus disposals from his last three matches of the season. We’ve compared him to Merrett for his ball-winning ability and size, but Daicos is ahead of Merrett at the same stage of their development and has a few more tricks up his sleeve. North won’t bid on him at Pick 1, but the Giants should at either Pick 2 or, remarkably, Pick 3 – and the Pies will have enough draft points to match it without hesitation. Daicos will fit in at the Pies with aplomb. One recruiter even said Daicos will get tagged in his first season …
3. SAM DARCY
Position: Ruck-forward
Size: 204cm, 73kg
Club: Oakleigh Chargers/Glen Iris/Scotch College/Vic Metro
AFL player comparison: Ben King
Another famous Dogs name is almost certain to return to the kennel in Darcy — the son of best and fairest and All-Australian Luke Darcy. And he’s not just any ordinary key-position player. At 204cm, Darcy is a terrific contested mark and an accurate kick for goal while he possesses superb versatility and athleticism, which allow him to play in any third of the ground. He spent time in defence in his three NAB league matches and averaged 3.3 intercept marks and 5.7 intercept possessions — which is why we’ve compared him to Ben King, who also played down back in his draft year. Then Darcy played forward in his two trial matches and averaged 3.0 contested marks, with a dazzling six-goal haul against Vic Country seeing him shoot up club draft boards. The Dogs will have enough points to ensure they match a Darcy bid, which could come as early as Pick 2 via the Giants.
4. FINN CALLAGHAN
Position: Midfielder
Size: 191cm, 86kg
Club: Sandringham Dragons/St Bede’s College/Vic Metro
AFL player comparison: Marcus Bontempelli
A tall, graceful, left-footed on-baller with great composure, a lovely inside-outside balance – no wonder one recruiter told foxfooty.com.au there’s “a bit of Bontempelli” about the way Callaghan plays. He’s a great size for the modern-day midfielder with terrific kicking skills and drive to help his team break lines. Callaghan really separated himself from the pack in his last three NAB League matches this year, averaging 30.0 disposals, 4.7 clearances and 5.3 score involvements. Several clubs have attempted to trade up the draft order to get their hands on this guy – and rightly so. Specifically, teams have been trying to poach the Giants’ selection — attempts that have been rejected by the NSW-based team, which is now set to take Callaghan, who coach Leon Cameron is a big fan of.
5. JOSH RACHELE
Position: Small forward
Size: 179cm, 81kg
Club: Murray Bushrangers/Shepparton Swans/Caulfield Grammar/Vic Country
AFL player comparison: Toby Greene
An uber-talented forward-midfielder blessed with goalkicking nous, strong hands overhead, x-factor and an unwavering belief in his own ability, Rachele is one of this year’s most fascinating and exciting prospects. The goalsneak kicked 11 goals from four NAB League matches — the best goals-per-match average in the competition — while he also ranked second for average score involvements (7.5). Rachele was used sparingly in the midfield, averaging 18.5 disposals and 2.5 clearances, but can swing games when he’s on the ball. He won the Kevin Sheehan medal in 2019 as the best player in the Under 16 national championships representing Vic Country. On spark and talent alone he’s worthy of a top-five pick – and despite recruiters’ hesitancy in the past to pick a small forward early in the draft, Rachele could be an exception. Adelaide has been long linked to Rachele — and should the Crows hold that pick, it’s very hard to see them bypassing the next Toby.
6. BEN HOBBS
Position: Midfielder
Size: 183cm, 79kg
Club: GWV Rebels/Horsham Demons/Ballarat Clarendon College/Vic Country
AFL player comparison: Taylor Adams
The best pure inside midfielder and contested possession-winner in the draft class. Hobbs is a master at winning the footy at the coalface and his quick hands make him a threat at stoppages. Yet unlike a lot of inside midfielders, Hobbs has great composure with the ball when in tight, often opting against thumping the ball forward by foot. Excluding one match where he got injured, he averaged 29.2 disposals, 6.2 clearances and kicked 0.8 goals in the NAB League. But Hobbs was arguably more impressive in the trial matches for Vic Country, averaging 31.5 disposals and 1.5 goals from those two games. Would be a major surprise if he slid outside the top 10, with Richmond (Pick 7) looming as the most likely destination if the Suns pass on him (which is looking more likely).
7. JOSH WARD
Position: Midfielder
Size: 181cm, 74kg
Club: Northern Knights/Fitzroy/Melbourne Grammar/Vic Metro
AFL player comparison: Dan Hannebery
One for SuperCoach owners to keep an eye on when he hits AFL club land. Ward is one of the best well-rounded midfielders at the top of the draft class with an ability to find the ball both in and outside the contest. The left-footer averaged 30.2 disposals in the NAB League — the second-most behind only Nick Daicos — and finished the season superbly with 33-plus disposals from his last three matches to be named captain of the competition Team of the Year. Recruiters earlier in the year had some doubts over his ability to hit the scoreboard — he kicked two behinds and failed to kick a goal in the NAB League — but he managed 3.3 from two trial matches. He loves to run and carry, is a polished distributor and has the potential to play AFL footy early in 2022. Where he goes is becoming a big talking point among club recruiters. Ward — a Hawthorn supporter whose great grandfather Alex Lee played 31 games for the club between 1933 and 1935 — has been strongly linked to the Hawks for weeks. But the Hawks are also keeping tabs on other outside ball-winners, meaning Fremantle, Richmond and St Kilda could then snap Ward up. He could slide a little more than first thought, but he’s not getting past the Power at Pick 12.
8. MAC ANDREW
Position: Ruck-forward
Size: 200cm, 70kg
Club: Dandenong Stingrays/Berwick/St Joseph’s Ferntree Gully/Vic Country
AFL player comparison: Paddy Ryder
The Melbourne Next Generation Academy prospect has probably been the biggest draft board bolter across the season. He would have to put on size once he got to an AFL club and ultimately be a long-term prospect, but Andrew’s athleticism, natural leap, strong hands and ability to play across all thirds of the ground at 200cm excites AFL clubs. Excluding his NAB League match where he got injured, Andrew, who was born in Egypt to Sudanese parents, averaged 15.2 disposals from his five games – the most of any ruckman – according to Champion Data. His hit-out-to-advantage rate of 18.1 per cent was also ranked fourth among the NAB League’s top 50 ruckmen for ruck contests. As the AFL has changed the in-draft NGA bidding rules for 2021 – clubs with existing links to multicultural and Indigenous Academy players can’t match bids inside the top 20 selections – the Dees aren’t getting their hands on Andrew – unless they trade up into the top five. Gold Coast appears poised to take him with its first selection. If it doesn’t — and that would be a shock now — expect a few clubs to try and trade up the order to get him.
9. JOSH GIBCUS
Position: Key defender
Size: 196cm, 87kg
Club: GWV Rebels/Eastpoint/St Pat’s College/Vic Country
AFL player comparison: Jake Lever
The quintessential modern-day defender at 195cm, recruiters can see Gibcus becoming a star second backman at AFL club land that can play man-on-man but also intercept. He was ranked first among defenders who played at least five NAB League matches this season for intercept possessions (7.9) and intercept marks (3.2). Recruiters say his vertical leap is “ridiculous” – highlighted by his 95cm running vertical jump result at the draft combine, which was ranked third nation-wide – while he also has strong aerobic capacity, good footy nous and strong spoiling ability. Initially, Gibcus was looming as a top-five pick, with the Giants and Suns linked to him. Now it’s more likely he slips a few spots — but still to a club holding a top-10 pick. Fremantle and Richmond will consider him, but St Kilda — which really needs a key defender on its list — looms as the most likely destination.
10. NEIL ERASMUS
Position: Midfielder-forward
Size: 188cm, 80kg
Club: Subiaco/Sorrento-Duncraig/Hale/Western Australia
AFL player comparison: Tim Taranto
A gun junior cricketer that chose footy as his preferred career path, where he’s developed into an exciting player blessed with great footy smarts and strong overhead marking ability. Erasmus had a stunning start to his season and only improved as the year progressed. He was the second-highest ranked player in the WAFL colts, according to Champion Data, and ranked among the top five players for disposals, contested possessions, intercept marks, clearances and score assists. Erasmus averaged 28 disposals from his four WAFL colts games, but showed in last year’s grand final in the same competition that he can be dangerous up forward, kicking four goals as a bottom-ager in Subiaco’s premiership triumph. Hard to see the WA young gun getting past Fremantle (Picks 6 and 8 ) or West Coast (Pick 10), with the Eagles, especially, a big fan.
11. JYE AMISS
Position: Tall forward
Size: 196cm, 83kg
Club: East Perth/Busselton/Western Australia
AFL player comparison: Harry McKay
Arguably the best key forward in the open draft. He’s blessed with a deadeye left foot kick, strong hands above his head, presence on the lead and great athleticism below his knees for a player of his size. Amiss kicked a WAFL colts season-high 51 goals this season — the most by a player in that competition since 2015 – but just as impressive was the fact he only kicked 15 behinds. Amiss also ranked second in the WAFL colts for contested marks (3.0) and No. 1 for marks inside 50 (3.5). It would be a major surprise if he wasn’t in a Fremantle jumper next year, with the Dockers having a strong, long-time interest in the East Perth product. Ideally, the Dockers would take Amiss with their second top-10 pick, but the Tigers (Pick 7) also have interest in the 196cm prospect and could force the Dockers to pick him earlier – if they want him that desperately.
12. NASIAH WANGANEEN-MILERA
Position: Wing
Size: 187cm, 71kg
Club: Glenelg/Marion/South Australia
AFL player comparison: Paul Seedsman
As his surname suggests, the South Australian has a great footy pedigree, being the nephew of Essendon and Port Adelaide champion Gavin Wanganeen and the son of Terry Milera, who played 30 games for the Saints last decade. A smooth mover that makes good decisions by foot, Wanganeen-Milera seemed to improve with every game he played in 2021 as he showed off his excellent kicking skills and ability to link teammates between the arcs. He spent the majority of the first half of the season in the SANFL reserves, averaging 15.5 disposals, 3.5 intercept possessions, 4.7 score involvements and 0.4 goals. Wanganeen-Milera then was upgraded to Glenelg’s league team and fitted in with aplomb, averaging 11.0 disposals and 5.0 handball receives. Has bolted into top-10 draft contention – and rightfully so. Adelaide has had a close look at the SA product, but if it bypasses him, Hawthorn has strong interest. St Kilda and Essendon are also in the mix — the latter, no doubt, being a romantic prospect.
13. JOSH GOATER
Position: Utility
Size: 190cm, 80kg
Club: Calder Cannons/Sunbury/Sunbury College/Vic Metro
AFL player comparison: Jordan Ridley (as a defender), Xavier Duursma (as a wing/midfielder)
A high-flying, speedy, agile and versatile prospect that looms as a big fan favourite at AFL level. Goater is an athletic yet slightly taller prospect than some of the other midfielders at the top of his draft class – height that also allows him to play in either 50m arc. Interestingly, Goater won more disposals in defence than in the midfield this season. In his first five NAB League matches, he averaged 21.6 disposals 5.2 clearance as a midfielder then 30.5 disposals, 4.0 intercept marks and 8.5 intercept possessions. Goater is in top-10 contention. Fremantle’s second pick might be the earliest he goes, while any of St Kilda, West Coast, Essendon or Port Adelaide could take him.
14. JOSH SINN
Position: Medium defender
Size: 186cm, 78kg
Club: Sandringham Dragons/Old Xaverians/Vic Metro
AFL player comparison: Adam Saad
Blink and you’ll miss this speedy footballer, who’s a genuine 70m player in that he carries the ball 20m (at least) then kicks it 50m. Sinn is an explosive, line-breaking half-back with genuine leg speed but has the potential to become a full-time midfielder at AFL level if his aerobic capacity continues to improve. His NAB League numbers in a frustrating, injury-interrupted season weren’t huge, averaging just 17.6 disposals. But his run and carry ability saw him average a combined 6.8 inside 50s and rebound 50s — the most of any player to average fewer than 20 disposals. He was Sandringham’s skipper too, so he possesses strong leadership capabilities. Will go in the first round, but his draft range is wide. Adelaide is the club with the earliest pick linked to him, while Hawthorn, St Kilda and Essendon could also be in the mix.
15. MATT JOHNSON
Position: Midfielder
Size: 192cm, 81kg
Club: Subiaco/North Beaches/Western Australia
AFL player comparison: Scott Pendlebury
Recruiters were hoping to see Johnson have a strong finish to his 2021 campaign – and he delivered in September and October. He won the WA best on ground medal for his performance against SA at Optus Stadium in an AFL Grand Final day curtain-raiser then had a terrific draft combine, placing third nationally in the agility test, sixth in the standing vertical jump and seventh in the running vertical while running the 20m sprint in under three seconds. A tall midfielder with ridiculously good composure in traffic, Johnson got a taste of all three WAFL competitions in 2021. He starred at colts level, struggled at league level but found his rhythm in the reserves, averaging 23 disposals and six marks from his final three games (which included two finals). Johnson is looming as a top-10 bolter, with Hawthorn seriously considering taking him with its first pick. Then if Fremantle doesn’t take him with one of its two picks, it’s hard to see him slipping beyond the Eagles’ selection.
16. TYLER SONSIE
Position: Midfielder
Size: 181cm, 77kg
Club: Eastern Ranges/Rowville/Vic Metro
AFL player comparison: Trent Cotchin
On talent alone, Sonsie is a top-five draft prospect with his speed, polish, strength at the contest, clean hands and high footy IQ. But a lack of continuity this year, both due to injury and Covid-enforced interruptions, has seen the prospect slip a little. Recruiters, though, still fondly remember his Under 16s national championships two years ago where he earned Vic Metro’s MVP award in the side’s undefeated carnival-winning side. Sonsie started the 2021 season well with 34 disposals and two goals in his first NAB League game before an eye-catching two-goal, 24-disposal game for the Box Hill Hawks under Sam Mitchell in his first VFL match. But from his other four NAB League matches, he averaged just 20 disposals and less than one goal a game. A club with a late first-round selection could take a punt on him. But if he slips into the second round — Hawthorn (Picks 21 and 24) and Richmond (Picks 26 to 28) have both been linked to him — then gets it right at AFL level, he could be a genuine steal for the club that picks him up.
17. DARCY WILMOT
Position: Medium defender
Size: 183cm, 75kg
Club: Northern Knights/Montmorency/Hazelglen College/Vic Metro,
AFL player comparison: Darcy Byrne-Jones
A terrific, well-rounded medium backman that ticks a lot of boxes. Wilmot’s ability to read the flight of the footy in the air as a defender is outstanding. Then when he wins the ball back, he isn’t afraid to use his leg speed to rebound and gain territory for his team and often makes good decisions by foot. Wilmot played seven NAB League games for the Knights, averaging 15.1 disposals and earning selection in the competition’s team of the year. Don’t expect him to still be on the board when the first round ends. Melbourne, Sydney and, in particular, Brisbane have all shown interest in Wilmot, but he mightn’t last that long in the first round, with Essendon and Port Adelaide also considering him.
Continues next post ...
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18. SAM BUTLER
Position: Forward-midfielder
Size: 184cm, 76kg
Club: GWV Rebels/Lake Wendouree/St Pat’s College/Vic Country
AFL player comparison: Zak Butters
If he’s going to be as exciting as his brother is at AFL level, we’ve got another fan favourite. A player with footy smarts and great strength at the contest, Butler — the brother of premiership Tiger and Saints forward Dan Butler — is a genuine midfielder-forward that can swing games. He kicked three goals against the Geelong Falcons in Round 2 of the NAB League, but has looked just as capable when playing up the field. Among mid-forwards in the NAB League, Butler ranked first for contested possessions (9.2), tackles (4.8 ) and goals (0.8 ). Of note, he averaged more disposals, contested possessions and tackles than his brother when he was in the NAB League, but Dan averaged 1.2 goals per match. He then turned heads at the draft combine with four top-10 finishes: Eighth in the 2km time trial (6:23), ninth in the 20m sprint (2.974 seconds), equal-ninth in the standing vertical jump (71cm) and 10th in the running vertical jump (87cm). Butler has shot up draft boards as the year has progressed, to the point where he’s now in first-round contention. He could go as early as the Giants’ second first-round pick, while Brisbane — which is keen on a small forward — would be in the mix.
19. JACOB VAN ROOYEN
Position: Utility
Size: 193cm, 91kg
Club: Claremont/Western Australia
AFL player comparison: Tom McDonald
An exciting swingman that impressed at both ends during his draft year. Van Rooyen was unleashed at WAFL league level for five games, but did most of his damage at WAFL colts level, booting 34.14 from nine games – an impressive average of nearly four goals per outing. He also starred for WA’s Under 19s side as a backman on AFL Grand Final day, taking eight marks in defence before pushing forward to kick the match-winning goal against SA in an eye-catching performance. After a year that was interrupted by glandular fever, Van Rooyen finished strong at the draft combine, running the 20m sprint in 3.06 seconds. Looming as a late first-round pick contender, with Sydney and Brisbane, in particular, linked.
20. ZAC TAYLOR
Position: Midfielder
Size: 180cm, 74kg
Club: Calder Cannons/Penola Catholic College/Vic Metro
AFL player comparison: Jy Simpkin
Another first-round bolter following a terrific end to his 2021 campaign. After averaging 19.8 touches from his first four NAB League matches, Taylor upped the ante significantly in his final three games, finishing with 32, 34 and 37 disposals respectively. His 1.6 assists per match were equal-second in the NAB League among players who played five or more matches. Taylor also got the call-up for an Essendon VFL game, finishing with 10 disposals against Frankston. An efficient, clever distributor with a strong inside-outside balance, Taylor is one of the most well-rounded on-ballers in this year’s pool but could ultimately be a small forward at AFL level. He can kick on both sides of his body, while he’s composed in traffic but has the ability to accelerate out of stoppages.
21. MITCHITO OWENS
Position: Midfielder-forward
Size: 190cm, 85kg
Club: Sandringham Dragons/Beaumaris/Mentone Grammar/Vic Metro
AFL player comparison: Elliot Yeo
A speedy, versatile and agile midfielder that had an awesome back-end to his 2021 campaign. Owens kicked a goal from 29 disposals and seven marks for Vic Metro in an Under 19’s challenge match against Vic Country, while he averaged 23.3 disposals, 5.7 marks and 3.7 inside 50s from his final three NAB League games. He’s grown 10cm in the past 12 months, meaning he’s become a greater threat at stoppages and developed strong overhead marking skills. Owens is tied to St Kilda through the club’s Next Generation Academy program. The Saints mightn’t have a chance to bid on him – unless they take him with their first selection (Pick 9) – as clubs with existing links to multicultural and Indigenous Academy players are now unable to match bids inside the top 20 selections. And Owens has clubs with top 20 picks interested, including North Melbourne and the Giants. However it’s expected Owens will still end up at the Saints.
22. BLAKE HOWES
Position: Medium forward
Size: 190cm, 79kg
Club: Sandringham Dragons/Parkdale/St Bede’s/Vic Metro
AFL player comparison: Jack Gunston
An athletic, high half-forward with ample upside. Howes’ strong core allows him to keep his feet, while his game awareness. composure and footy nous helps him make wise choices with ball in hand. After a slow start to the year where he averaged just 10 disposals from his first three matches, Howes showed he can impact the game at either end of the field late in the year. In his last four NAB League matches he kicked five goals and took seven intercept marks. As a result, he’s surged into first-round calculations. The Demons were linked to Jack Gunston prior to the trade period — could they make a play for Howes, who has ample Gunston traits, at the draft instead?
23. ARLO DRAPER
Position: Medium forward-midfielder
Size: 186cm, 75kg
Club: South Adelaide/Willunga/South Australia
AFL player comparison: Archie Perkins
Draper has drawn comparisons to Perkins, not just for his on-field ability to win contested possessions and hit the scoreboard, but also for his laid-back approach to footy and life. He’s dangerous in the air and possesses line-breaking speed and agility. After breaking into the SA Under 16s side two years ago as a mid-sized backman, Draper was pushed into the midfield and forward line this year as he played across all three SANFL competitions. In the Under 18s he averaged 24.4 disposals and 6.6 clearances before pushing up to the reserves where he averaged 15.7 disposals and 4.0 clearances. AFL draft guru Kevin Sheehan said Draper has “some exciting attributes and mercurial type of ability”. Some clubs are wary of Draper’s aerobic capacity, hence they see him more as a half-forward or half-back rather than a midfielder. Recruiters believe Draper is now more likely to slip to the second round.
24. CAMPBELL CHESSER
Position: Midfielder-medium defender
Size: 186cm, 83kg
Club: Sandringham Dragons/Lavington Panthers/Melbourne Grammar/Vic Metro
AFL player comparison: Hunter Clark
An exciting prospect that possesses line-breaking speed and an accurate right-foot kick, Chesser played more in the midfield this season, but might be suited as a rebounding defender at AFL level. He didn’t find as much of the ball as other top prospects, averaging just 18.7 disposals in the NAB League with a contested possession rate of 27 per cent. But Chesser’s 4.7 inside 50s were the most of any player to average fewer than 20 disposals. He was hit hard by injury and Covid-enforced season pauses over the past two seasons, but Chesser has really impressed recruiters with his attitude. A chance to go in the first round — and if he does, it’ll most likely be to Brisbane, with Melbourne also linked.
25. TOM BROWN
Position: General defender
Size: 186cm, 77kg
Club: Murray Bushrangers/Mooroopna/Geelong Grammar/Vic Country
AFL player comparison: Bailey Dale
An exciting defensive prospect that can not only intercept but also use natural speed, agility and composure to burst away from congestion and break the game open. Brown this year was ranked among the top 10 NAB League players in both intercept possessions (7.0) and intercept marks (2.0) as he displayed great overhead marking confidence close to his defensive goal. His contested possession average of 7.4 also ranked third among defenders, while he impressed at the combine, finishing equal-sixth in the standing vertical jump (72cm) and just missing the top 10 in the 20m sprint (2.98 seconds). The Cats will be disappointed injury restricted Brown’s father Paul to just 84 games during the 1990s, because his son would’ve been a terrific father-son selection for the club. Yet the Cats are stacked with second-round picks – which is arguably in the early stages of Brown’s draft range – and could pick him nonetheless. The Swans or Lions, though, could pounce beforehand with their late first-round picks.
DRAFT POWER RANKINGS: 26-50
26. Mitchell Knevitt (193cm, 81kg — Geelong Falcons/Vic Country)
27. Leek Alleer (195cm, 81kg — Central Districts (SANFL))
28. Jesse Motlop (176cm, 75kg — South Fremantle/South Coogee/Aquinas College/Western Australia)
29. Rhett Bazzo (194cm, 81kg — Swan Districts/Guilford Grammar/Western Australia)
30. Judson Clarke (179cm, 69kg — Dandenong Stingrays/Yarra Valley Grammar/Vic Country)
31. Josh Fahey (186cm, 76kg — GWS Giants Academy/Queanbeyan/NSW-ACT)
32. Toby Conway (204cm, 90kg — Geelong Falcons/St Mary’s/Geelong Grammar/Vic Country)
33. Connor Macdonald (184cm, 77kg — Dandenong Stingrays/Doveton/Haileybury College/Vic Country)
34. Matthew Roberts (184cm, 80kg — South Adelaide/Langhorne Creek/St Peters College/South Australia)
35. Angus Sheldrick (179cm, 88kg — Claremont/Mosman Park/Geez Church Grammar/Western Australia)
36. Jack Williams (194cm, 95kg — East Fremantle/Rossmoyne/Western Australia)
37. James Willis (181cm, 76kg — North Adelaide/Ingle Farm/The Heights School/South Australia)
38. Ned Long (195cm, 92kg — Northern Knights/Fitzroy/Melbourne Grammar/Vic Metro)
39. Charlie Dean (195cm, 86kg — Williamstown (VFL))
40. Paul Curtis (183cm, 73kg — Western Jets/Keilor/Vic Metro)
41. Corey Warner (181cm, 73kg — East Fremantle/Willetton/Aquinas College/Western Australia)
42. Marcus Windhager (183cm, 82kg — Sandringham Dragons/Beaumaris/Haileybury College/Vic Metro)
43. Jack Avery (189cm, 82kg — Perth/Western Australia)
44. Casey Voss (182cm, 80kg — Sturt (SANFL))
45. Cooper Murley (180cm, 71kg — Norwood/Tea Tree Gully/South Australia)
46. Jake Soligo (179cm, 80kg — Eastern Ranges/Dromana/Vic Metro)
47. Josh Browne (185cm, 78kg — East Fremantle/Applecross-Mt. Pleasant/Western Australia)
48. Noah Pegoraro (194cm, 88kg — West Perth (WAFL))
49. Alastair Lord (181cm, 75kg — Norwood/Rostrevor College/South Australia)
50. Mitch Cox (190cm, 81kg — Frankston (VFL))
https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/draft/afl-draft-rankings-2021-afl-draft-prospects-2021-news-phantom-draft-form-guide-1-to-50-nick-daicos-jason-hornefrancis/news-story/318904f5cdf0faf57529a909513d951d
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From Chris Doerre (aka Knightmare from BF):
2021 AFL Draft top 75 power rankings and tier list:
My top-20 are as per my November Power Rankings on ESPN. Next few include: Roberts, Van Rooyen, Lord, Sinn, Goater.
Point of discussion: Is 21/75 mature agers and 6/75 delisted free agents too many to feature in a top-75 power rankings or not enough?
WATCH HERE: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-_Fj530366w
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Kevin Sheehan’s top 40 draft prospects
Leek Alleer
Jye Amiss
Mac Andrew
Sam Banks
Rhett Bazzo
Tom Brown
Jase Burgoyne
Sam Butler
Finn Callaghan
Campbell Chesser
Judson Clarke
Toby Conway
Nick Daicos
Sam Darcy
Arlo Draper
Neil Erasmus
Josh Fahey
Josh Gibcus
Josh Goater
Cooper Hamilton
Ben Hobbs
Jason Horne-Francis
Blake Howes
Matt Johnson
Mitch Knevitt
Jesse Motlop
Mitch Owens
Josh Rachele
Matt Roberts
Angus Sheldrick
Josh Sinn
Tyler Sonsie
Zac Taylor
Jacob Van Rooyen
Nasiah Wanganeen-Milera
Josh Ward
Corey Warner
Jack Williams
Darcy Wilmot
Marcus Windhager
https://www.sen.com.au/news/2021/11/21/kevin-sheehans-top-40-2021-afl-draft-prospects/
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AFL draft top 30: Jason Horne-Francis or Nick Daicos? Ranking the best talents in 2021's crop
By Dean Bilton
ABC
22 November 2021
The AFL draft is almost here and dozens of the country's best young footballers are hoping their professional footy careers are about to be launched.
Assessing this year's crop has been made difficult, with COVID-19 wiping out large portions of the season, but the consensus is this is an even draft beyond the first few selections.
Here we list the best 30 prospects on their own individual merit: Keep in mind, this is not a phantom draft predicting where each player will go, simply a ranking of the best talents available.
30 - Rhett Bazzo
Key defender, WA
One of the best intercept defenders in this draft, Rhett Bazzo's laconic style sees him glide around the defence, often picking off attacks at will.
Bazzo will need to fill out his frame to compete at AFL level, but his strong hands and excellent reading of the play should stand him in good stead.
29 - Toby Conway
Ruck, Vic Country
In a draft a little short on ruck talent, Toby Conway presents as the most AFL-ready option available.
Conway is already a healthy size but covers the ground well, getting to plenty of aerial contests. His tap ruckwork will develop, but there is much to work with.
28 - Blake Howes
Midfielder/forward, Vic Metro
It remains to be seen which position Howes makes his own at AFL level, but a player of his athletic quality should have no problem slotting in somewhere.
Tall and quick, with a good engine and a physical presence, Howes may well end up a big-bodied midfielder in time. For now, Howes will likely be a hard-working half-forward option who is as dangerous in the air as he is on the ground.
27 - Mitchito Owens
Midfielder, Vic Metro
Another really strong-running midfielder who has height on his side, Mitchito Owens will cover the ground as well as anyone in this draft.
Owens has versatility on his side, too, and can practically fill a role anywhere on the ground. Unless a bid comes in for him inside the top 20, Owens will be headed to St Kilda as an NGA prospect.
26 - Campbell Chesser
Midfielder, Vic Country
One who, perhaps, would have been higher up this list if not for the amount of footy he missed this year, Campbell Chesser has plenty of appealing attributes.
Chesser has an explosive turn of pace and looks to take the game on with his speed. He finds most of his ball on the outside, but is strong enough in the clinches too. Could be a sneaky hit for whoever drafts him.
25 - Jesse Motlop
Forward, WA
Jesse Motlop has everything you want from a small forward. He's quick and agile, super creative in front of the goals and is a monster at applying forward pressure.
Motlop has already had a taste of senior footy in the WAFL with South Fremantle, and was not out of place. Would be a great addition to just about any forward line.
24 - Jacob van Rooyen
Forward/defender, WA
With relatively few key position prospects likely to be selected in the first round or two, why not get a player who could cover both ends of the ground?
Jacob van Rooyen has been a genuine swingman throughout the past year and has been just as good as a key forward as he has in defence. He's big, tough and strong and will just about be AFL-ready from day one.
23 - Mitch Knevitt
MIdfielder, Vic Country
He's a bit of a project player, but Mitch Knevitt's ceiling is incredibly high. Knevitt is a tall, gangly inside ball-magnet who is deceptively quick and incredibly fit.
That may not sound like much of a project, but Knevitt will need to put on some size and tidy up his disposal at the top level. But if he puts it all together, he has qualities that could make him a seriously good AFL midfielder.
22 - Angus Sheldrick
Midfielder, WA
Angus Sheldrick shot up draft boards after a series of excellent performances against WA and for Claremont Colts, and is destined to be a fan-favourite wherever he ends up.
Sheldrick is just a relentless ball of energy, winning clearances and sticking tackles and launching forward thrusts seemingly without a backward step. There are rough edges to iron out, but there is just so much to love about this nuggety bull.
21 - Tom Brown
Defender, Vic Country
Tom Brown seems like a pretty safe bet as an athletic, composed rebounding defender.
He can play taller than his height thanks to an excellent leap, and is particularly quick off the mark. Recruiters will know what they are getting with Brown, and it's a solid package.
20 - Arlo Draper
Midfielder/forward, SA
Arlo Draper is a smooth mover in the midfielder who looks to get first hands on the footy and use it creatively.
He's also strong in the air, which makes him a viable forward option but whatever he does usually has a tinge of class.
19 - Tyler Sonsie
Midfielder, Vic Metro
Injury brought Tyler Sonsie's 2021 to a premature end, but he has shown enough through his junior career to keep him in first round contention.
Sonsie is a creative, classy and exciting midfielder who hits the scoreboard. But there's still a bit of the unknown about him due to a lack of action this year. One to watch.
18 - Sam Butler
Midfielder/forward, Vic Country
Sam Butler will likely start his career as a speedy, dangerous forward, much like his brother Dan at St Kilda.
However, a midfield future beckons for Sam Butler thanks to his work-ethic and clean hands. He has proven to be a natural ball-winner throughout his junior career, so expect those qualities to shine through at some point in his AFL career.
17 - Zac Taylor
Midfielder, Vic Metro
One of the most creative and prolific ball-winners in this draft, Zac Taylor racks it up and almost always uses it well.
He's a smaller midfielder, but he lacks nothing in toughness. However, he is at his best on the outside, linking up attacking chains and nailing targets inside 50.
16 - Josh Sinn
Defender, Vic Country
Another player whose 2021 was interrupted by injury and COVID-19, but recruiters will know what Josh Sinn is all about.
Maybe the most natural rebounding defender in this draft, Sinn is a complete blend of speed and precision kicking. You want the ball in his hands when coming out defence, and his left boot will be wreaking havoc for years to come.
15 - Darcy Wilmot
Defender, Vic Country
Darcy Wilmot is the sort of player who makes defending look fun. He can play on tall or small opponents, but will give absolute hell to whoever is in his sights.
He balances his defensive nous with a hunger to take the game on, making him a seriously appealing, all-round package. Another that could end up a cult hero at his new AFL club.
14 - Josh Goater
Midfielder, Vic Metro
There is a future in which Josh Goater becomes as good as any midfielder taken in this draft, such are the natural athletic gifts he has at his disposal.
Goater is quick, evasive and boasts an impressive leap. He wins the ball and bursts out of stoppages at pace. The next step is adding some polish and consistency, but Goater is surely a risk worth taking.
13 - Nasiah Wanganeen-Milera
Midfielder/defender, South Australia
Put the ball in Nasiah Wanganeen-Milera's hands and watch the game come alive. This guy is the best kick and possibly the smoothest mover in the draft.
Wanganeen-Milera's frame may be light, and he may go missing through games at times, but he has as much hurt factor as any player available. Play him on a wing or off half-back and just let him go to work.
12 - Matthew Johnson
Midfielder, WA
Matthew Johnson is the kind of midfielder who makes time stand still around him, who seems to see the game two steps ahead of his opponents.
Johnson is a good size and has tidy skills, but his greatest attributes are his footy brain and his agility. Just a natural footballer.
11 - Neil Erasmus
Midfielder, WA
Having initially risen to prominence as a forward, Neil Erasmus moved into the midfield and suddenly became a whole new proposition and a seriously exciting prospect.
Erasmus can win his own ball and break out of congestion, or be a link in the chain through his excellent running power. He's also incredibly good in the air and, once he fills out his frame, has the potential to become a proper midfield bull.
10 - Jye Amiss
Forward, WA
The best thing you can say about Jye Amiss is that the guy kicks goals. Lots and lots and lots of goals.
He does it with intelligent movement, a deceptive turn of pace, strong hands and a reliable set shot. Key forwards are at a premium in this draft, and Amiss is among the very best.
9 - Josh Gibcus
Defender, Vic Country
Josh Gibcus is the best intercept defender in this draft, and it's no secret how much of a premium clubs put on that position in the modern game.
Gibcus is a natural at reading the ball in the air, complemented by his vertical leap and strong hands. He can play as a lockdown defender too, but is at his best flying for the footy in defence.
8 - Ben Hobbs
Midfielder, Vic Metro
A hard-nosed, pure inside midfielder, Ben Hobbs is already being spoken about as a future captain at AFL level, and he doesn't even belong to a club yet.
However, his leadership credentials are obvious, and his style of play — all-action, hard-hitting and team-first — means he will be a popular teammate. It's hard to see how any club could go wrong with Hobbs.
7 - Josh Rachele
Forward, Vic Country
For a small forward to be as high up draft boards as Josh Rachele is, they need to have two things — the ability to push into midfield, and a serious X-factor.
Rachele has both in spades. Few players in this draft are as fun to watch as Rachele, and his speed, creativity and dare are likely thrill crowds from day one.
6 - Josh Ward
Midfielder, Vic Metro
Josh Ward is simply a complete midfielder. Fit, skillful, tough and hard-working, he's a player who can compete just as strongly at the bottom of a pack as he does on the outside of one.
There are few discernible weaknesses to Ward's game. He's just a natural footballer in every sense, and a prized catch for whoever drafts him.
5 - Mac Andrew
Forward/ruck, Vic Country
With Mac Andrew, you are getting limitless potential. It's so rare to see such an immense athletic talent come ready-made with such a polished skill set.
At this point, it's impossible to say what position will best suit Andrew, or how long it will take his body to hold up to the rigours of AFL football. But Andrew is already more than just an athlete, he's a seriously good footballer.
4 - Finn Callaghan
Midfielder, Vic Metro
There's a reason there has been a late scramble from clubs to move up the order, and why GWS has been so determined to hold onto its pick two. Finn Callaghan is that reason.
As graceful as they come around the ground, the tall midfielder has a steely edge that complements his impressive work rate and excellent skills. Callaghan has elevated himself above a pack of midfielders to become a genuine top-five prospect, and one of the easiest players on the eye in this group.
3 - Sam Darcy
Forward, Vic Metro
The Western Bulldogs are getting a beauty here. Sam Darcy will be a father-son selection for the Dogs, and they will be delighted to secure the premier big man in the draft.
Though his aerial ability is imperious, it's when the ball hits the deck that Darcy really stands out. He moves incredibly well for his size, and has clean hands at ground level. Throw in a solid set shot and you've got yourself one hell of a young full forward.
2 - Jason Horne-Francis
Midfielder, SA
It's a flip of the coin as to which of the top two prospects is better, but in the end it doesn't really matter. Jason Horne-Francis will join North Melbourne with the first pick in the draft, and the Roos will be laughing all the way to the bank.
Horne-Francis is the dream midfielder. He has pace, strength in the contest, an excellent leap, clean hands, good skills and a willingness to do the defensive work. He is a proven performer in senior SANFL finals, and is AFL-ready as we speak. Destined for big things.
1 - Nick Daicos
Midfielder, Vic Metro
It's hard to quantify just what makes Nick Daicos so good. The best way to put it is that he controls games as a midfielder, winning the ball in every area and in every way, pulling the strings with his skills and creativity.
As the name might tell you, Daicos was born to play footy. He wants the ball in his hands as often as possible and very rarely wastes a touch. He will go to Collingwood with heavy expectation but the ability and confidence to wear it.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-11-22/afl-draft-top-30-ranking-the-best-talents-in-this-years-crop/100627324
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Where will Hobbs go? The three clubs interested in midfield bull
afl.com.au
22 November 2021
Speaking on AFL.com.au's NAB AFL Draft Countdown show on Monday, Ben Hobbs said a couple of clubs with selections high in the first round had shown genuine interest.
"I've met with the Tigers pretty recently and they showed a little bit of interest and that could potentially happen," Hobbs said.
"And maybe Freo as well could be a possibility."
Fremantle currently has picks six and eight, with Richmond sandwiched between at No.7.
Hobbs, from Horsham, said Hawthorn (No.5) had shown more interest than Adelaide at four.
"I definitely think I can make an impact early," he said.
"I want to be a strong player straight away."
https://www.afl.com.au/news/688449/where-will-hobbs-go-the-three-clubs-interested-in-midfield-gun
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Unless Freo pip us, sounds like Hobbs will be a Tiger. Mentioning us first is kind of a clue.
A Hawk supporter on twitter said they have only spoken to Hobbs just in case of the unlikely chance their preferred choices Ward and Johnson are both off the board.
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2021 AFL Draft Preview: Richmond
Michael Alvaro
AFL DRAFT ANALYSIS
Rookie Me Central
November 21, 2021
WITH the 2021 trade period done and dusted, it is now time for clubs and fans alike to turn their attention to the draft. Between now and draft day (November 24/25), clubs have had the opportunity to exchange picks with the final order formed just over a week out. While the chaos settles, Rookie Me Central takes a look at how each club may approach the upcoming intake with the hand they formed at the close of trade period.
Next under the microscope is Richmond, a club with five top 30 picks and the chance to forge a quick regeneration after missing finals.
CURRENT PICKS: 7, 15, 26, 27, 28, 79
2022 PICKS: RIC Round 1, RIC Round 2, NM Round 2
ACADEMY/FATHER-SON NOMINEES:
Nil.
LIST NEEDS:
+ Inside midfielder
+ Key position depth
+ Rebound/outside runners
FIRST PICK OPTIONS:
(Pick 7)
Luckily for Richmond, its ball-winning woes can be immediately addressed via a draft lauded for its midfield depth, and while there are elite engine room operators available, the Tigers may also look towards a couple of key position options with pick seven. Of course, the selection is set to slide down to number nine once early father-son bids roll in.
Arguably front and centre for Richmond’s pick are Victorian midfielders Ben Hobbs and Josh Ward. Hobbs is perhaps the one who would better address the Tigers’ need for contested ball winners, with his toughness and desire to compete unmatched among his peers. Ward is similarly reliable and hard-working, but has a point of difference with his clean skills by hand and foot.
Should Richmond instead look towards key position talent, the fast-developing Mac Andrew will undoubtedly be of interest. Given the ruck-forward stocks lost of late, he suits a need well and has incredible athletic upside which the Tigers can enhance. Jye Amiss could be the long-term key forward replacement in line for selection, with the East Perth spearhead a deadeye goalkicker who has also shown marked improvement in 2021.
A couple of potential sliders may make the Tigers think even harder on their choice. High-marking key defender Josh Gibcus has been linked with GWS and Gold Coast’s early picks, but would be hard to overlook if he got through, while mercurial small forward Josh Rachele has had time put into him should he be overlooked by the Giants, Adelaide, and Hawthorn.
REMAINING CROP:
With arguably the best overall haul of any club this year, the world is Richmond’s oyster beyond its first pick. Another first rounder (pick 15) is ideal, but the Tigers’ three-consecutive second round selections are what could really open up their hand, especially with live trading in the mix. They invested in this draft, and will surely reap the rewards.
Pick 15, which will slide down to 17, still holds great value for Richmond. There should still be some high-level midfielders available and depending on what they do within the top 10, the Tigers could nab one in Neil Erasmus. The tall West Australian workhorse will also be of interest to local clubs, but may be the slider this year if others appeal more to Fremantle and West Coast.
Tyler Sonsie is another intriguing case, having once been considered a top 10 talent. He may well slip right towards the end of round one and that leaves him within striking range for Richmond, who could add some class to the midfield-forward rotation along with someone like Hobbs up front. His best is damaging and ridiculously good, but was not found consistently enough in 2021.
Outside and rebound run may also be in the offing for Richmond, and Campbell Chesser fits the bill well. The Sandringham Dragons product is an elite sprinter with line-breaking speed and the skill to match, offering scope to also play on the inside. Northern Knights dasher Darcy Wilmot may be another on the Tigers’ list, with said region a highly fruitful one for the yellow and black. His blend of flair and tenacity suits the Richmond style well.
In terms of key position fulfilment, Jacob van Rooyen is arguably the only one in the Tigers’ first round range, as a physically ready swingman who steps up on the big stage. With that being the case, Richmond could look to target 205cm ruckman Toby Conway in round two, along with intercept marking defender Rhett Bazzo or ruck-forward Jack Williams – depending on its earlier haul.
For more midfield depth and around-the-square runners, there is plenty available in the 20s. Jake Soligo earned a VFL berth with the Tigers and may be of interest, while Giants Academy product Josh Fahey impressed against Richmond’s twos and may attract a bid. Elsewhere, Angus Sheldrick would be a shrewd package option should Richmond nab other West Aussies, while the crafty Zac Taylor is right within reach and both could play early.
KEY QUESTIONS:
> Can Richmond package its second round selections to nab another first-rounder?
> Will Richmond prioritise midfield, or key position options in round one?
> Will this intake be the one which puts Richmond quickly back on track?
https://central.rookieme.com/afl/2021/11/21/2021-afl-draft-preview-richmond/
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Twomeys mock draft is out & has us taking Gibcus over an available Hobbs who slides to 14. Sonsie at 17.
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Here's Twomey's top 30. Has Soligo as our third pick.
Cal Twomey's 2021 Phantom AFL Draft: Top 30, late picks, club whispers
Who will your club take in this year's NAB AFL Draft? Our guru makes the call
By Callum Twomey
afl.com.au
22 November 2021
THE PHANTOM Draft for 2021 is in.
After another draft class hit by COVID-19 cancellations, disruptions and changed plans, players across the country will have dreams made on Wednesday and Thursday night as the NAB AFL Draft is again split over two days.
Here is AFL.com.au's predictions for how the top 30 picks could roll out in our annual Phantom Draft. There are also club-by-club whispers for each team beyond the top 30 selections as well as the likely live draft picks expected for every side.
The order of selections in the Phantom Draft are changed as per bids on father-son and Academy prospects.
1. North - Jason Horne-Francis
2. W.Bulldogs - Sam Darcy ............... (matching Greater Western Sydney's bid)
3. GWS - Finn Callaghan
4. Collingwood - Nick Daicos ............ (matching Gold Coast's bid)
5. Gold Coast - Mac Andrew
6. Adelaide - Josh Rachele
7. Hawthorn - Josh Ward
8. Fremantle - Jye Amiss
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Josh Gibcus
POS: Key defender
Ht 196cm, Wt 87kg, DOB 4/4/03
From Greater Western Victoria Rebels/Vic Country
Richmond lost some of its key-position depth in the off-season and may have a chance to replenish with one of the best talls in the draft. Gibcus is the leading tall defender in the pool, with his aerial exploits and intercept marking drawing comparisons to Melbourne's Jake Lever and Brisbane's Harris Andrews. His leap is off the charts – literally – as seen when he jumped higher than the stand at the Vic Country Draft Combine testing. He flies for the ball and backs himself to be an attacking option in the back half.
If not him? Jye Amiss would be looked at if the Dockers didn't grab him, while the Tigers also have been linked for some time to Ben Hobbs, the Vic Country midfielder, and the same for Josh Ward if there. It seems unlikely the Tigers move up from this point of the draft in any trade.
10. Fremantle - Matthew Johnson
11. St Kilda - Nasiah Wanganeen-Milera
12. West Coast - Neil Erasmus
13. Essendon - Ben Hobbs
14. Port - Josh Sinn
15. GWS - Sam Butler
16. Brisbane - Darcy Wilmot
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Tyler Sonsie
POS: Defender
Ht 181cm, Wt 73kg, DOB 27/1/03
From Eastern Ranges/Vic Metro
Sonsie began the year as a potential top-five pick and although that's not where he will have his name called this week, the Eastern Ranges midfielder still has clubs keen on his talent. With some dancing feet and smarts in close, Sonsie is able to get the ball out in the midfield with some burst and also be a dangerous player inside 50, where his goal sense comes to the fore.
If not him? The Tigers are in a position to see if a player ranked in the top dozen falls through. It's always a chance. Jacob van Rooyen and Campbell Chesser could come into the mix.
18. Sydney - Tom Brown
19. Melbourne - Blake Howes
20. Brisbane - Jacob van Rooyen
21. Fremantle - Josh Goater
22. North - Jesse Motlop
23. Hawthorn - Mitch Knevitt
24. Geelong - Campbell Chesser
25. Geelong - Toby Conway ........ (after doing live picks trade with Western Bulldogs)
26. Hawthorn - Arlo Draper
27. GWS - Josh Fahey ................. (matching Carlton's bid)
28. Carlton - Connor MacDonald
29. St Kilda - Mitchito Owens ........ (matching Richmond's bid)
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Jake Soligo
POS: Midfielder
Ht 180cm, Wt 78kg, DOB 25/1/03
From Eastern Ranges/Vic Metro
A hard-working midfield option who can accumulate the ball, as seen in the NAB League this season when he averaged 23 disposals, including lifting that to 27 across the last three games of his campaign. Some clubs also see the Ranges talent starting his career as a forward option.
If not him? It might depend on how the Tigers' pair of first-round picks go and what they bring in there. If they don't secure a tall early then perhaps Rhett Bazzo would come under consideration, or if they're looking for a similar player to Soligo then Calder Cannons midfielder Zac Taylor could be a chance.
https://www.afl.com.au/news/688361/cal-twomey-s-2021-phantom-afl-draft-top-30-late-picks-club-whispers
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More from Twomey about us. Has Judson Clarke and James Wallis in the mix for our last two picks.
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Picks: 7, 15, 26, 27, 28, 79 (likely to use five selections)
Depending on how many bids come, Richmond's draft might be over within the top 30 and if the Tigers hold their draft hand they should be well-placed to be big winners with five picks inside that group. During the trade period the Tigers approached the Crows about bundling picks No.7 and 15 to get up to No.4 but were knocked back, but they could also be open to doing something with their picks in the 20s. Should they hold, Judson Clarke, a clever goalkicking half-forward, might be in the mix after 30 while another who could be worth a look is James Willis, a hard-bodied inside midfielder from South Australia.
https://www.afl.com.au/news/688361/cal-twomey-s-2021-phantom-afl-draft-top-30-late-picks-club-whispers
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I'd like us to take Gibcus and trade up to take Hobbs as well. 15 & 26 to Saints. Would they take that? Would we do it.
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Rumour has it Adelaide are desperate to trade back into the early second round to pick up Taylor.
No sure how there going to do it but I think our picks are to far back to do anything.
Apparently the Hawks are are also very keen on Taylor with either pick 21 or 24.
Either way it doesn’t look like he will slide to us and unfortunately.
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Pick Ben Hobbs first.
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AFL phantom draft: Inside word on which prospects will be taken when among first 20 picks
One club recruiter recently told foxfooty.com.au this was “the least predictable draft” they’d ever been involved in.
That was the sense putting this first-round phantom draft together, with crucial calls from Hawthorn, Fremantle and Essendon to dictate how the opening stages of Wednesday night’s event will go down. A big trade, which is widely expected, could reshape the top of the order too.
Foxfooty.com.au predicts how the first round of the draft will pan out — including two father-son bids — plus the inside word on which prospects your club could take and why.
PICK 9 — RICHMOND: MATT JOHNSON
Position: Midfielder
Size: 192cm, 81kg
Club: Subiaco/North Beaches/Western Australia
AFL player comparison: Scott Pendlebury
Johnson’s strong finish to his 2021 campaign – he won the WA best on ground medal for his performance against SA at Optus Stadium in an AFL Grand Final day curtain-raiser then had a terrific draft combine with three top-10 finishes — has seen him surge into top-10 calculations. A tall midfielder with ridiculously good composure in traffic, Johnson got a taste of all three WAFL competitions in 2021. A top-five pick on talent alone and shouldn’t have to wait too long to have his name called out.
In the mix: Don’t be surprised if Picks 8 and 9 are flipped here and the Dockers choose Johnson and the Tigers opt for Ben Hobbs, who would love to land at Punt Road but is prepared to go anywhere. The Tigers also have interest in 196cm key forward Jye Amiss, especially after losing Callum Coleman-Jones and Mabior Chol during last month’s exchange period. Key defender Josh Gibcus would fill a need, too, considering the recent departures of David Astbury (retired) and Ryan Garthwaite (delisted), although they’ve just brought in free agent Robbie Tarrant.
PICK 17 – RICHMOND: JACOB VAN ROOYEN
Position: Utility
Size: 193cm, 91kg
Club: Claremont/Western Australia
AFL player comparison: Tom McDonald
An exciting swingman that impressed at both ends during his draft year. Van Rooyen booted 34.14 from nine WAFL colts games up forward then starred for WA’s Under 19s side as a backman on AFL Grand Final day, taking eight marks in defence. After a year that was interrupted by glandular fever, Van Rooyen finished strong at the draft combine, running the 20m sprint in 3.06 seconds. If the Tigers didn’t pick Jye Amiss with their first selection, Van Rooyen would be a strong chance with their second.
In the mix:Campbell Chesser would have to be considered here if available still. This would also be talented Eastern Ranges midfielder Tyler Sonsie’s best chance of being selected in the first round, however he’s now looking more likely to be snapped up on Thursday night. It’s also the earliest a bid on top Giants academy prospect Josh Fahey would receive a bid, but the Tigers would likely save that move for Thursday night. Could they snare Sam Butler after letting brother Dan go a few years ago?
https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/draft/afl-phantom-draft-2021-phantom-mock-draft-afl-2021-fox-footy-predictions-news-analysis-draft-order-hawthorn-fremantle/news-story/aa71fa4c430c71ed4483f7b36f441086
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The HeraldSun also has Gibcus as our first pick. Then Erasmus falling to 17 followed by Draper and Soligo with our late 20s picks.
HeraldSun Phantom Draft:
1. North Melbourne - Jason Horne-Francis
2. Western Bulldogs - Sam Darcy
3. GWS - Finn Callaghan
4. Collingwood - Nick Daicos
5. Gold Coast - Mac Andrew
6. Adelaide - Josh Rachele
7. Hawthorn - Josh Ward
8. Fremantle - Ben Hobbs
9. Richmond - Josh Gibcus
10. Fremantle - Jye Amiss
11. St Kilda - Matt Johnson
12. West Coast - Campbell Chesser
13. Essendon - Nasiah Wanganeen-Milera
14. Port Adelaide - Josh Sinn
15. GWS - Sam Butler
16. Brisbane - Darcy Wilmot
17. Richmond - Neil Erasmus
18. Sydney - Tom Brown
19. Melbourne - Blake Howes
20. Brisbane - Jacob van Rooyen
21. Fremantle - Josh Goater
22. North Melbourne - Jesse Motlop
23. Hawthorn - Tyler Sonsie
24. Geelong - Mitch Knevitt
25. Hawthorn - Judson Clarke
26. GWS - Josh Fahey
27. Carlton - Connor MacDonald
28. Richmond - Arlo Draper
29. Richmond - Jake Soligo
30. St Kilda - Mitchito Owens
https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/draft/afl-phantom-draft-2021-how-the-first-30-picks-could-fall-whos-in-the-mix-at-every-club/news-story/309a7731ff0917fbc6818a6f173facdb
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Must be a hundred mock drafts. All crap until the real thing
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Pick Ben Hobbs first.
Slow. Wouldnt surprise me if he slides.
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The top 10 draft selections that appear locked in
Jake Niall
The Age
November 23, 2021 — 11.34am
The draft’s expected top six, counting bids
1. Jason Horne-Francis North Melbourne
2. Sam Darcy Western Bulldogs (matched bid from GWS)
3. Finn Callaghan GWS
4. Nick Daicos Collingwood (matched bid from Gold Coast)
5. Mac Andrew Gold Coast
6. Josh Rachele Adelaide
Hawthorn, Fremantle, Richmond and then Fremantle again have the next four draft choices that will round out the top 10 and AFL club sources have less confidence in the order that will follow from pick seven onwards (counting the bids, which push subsequent draft picks back by two spots in the early order).
The Bulldogs are a strong chance to trade their first remaining pick, number 23, for later choices - potentially in the 30s - to give themselves a better draft hand given that No. 23 will be swallowed up by the expected Darcy bid at No.2.
Geelong is keen on pick 23 and is among the three or four clubs in discussion with the Dogs over trading up for that selection.
The Dogs have not been formally told that GWS will bid for Darcy at pick two, but they are anticipating that this will happen.
Hawthorn has been linked to Josh Ward, a midfielder from the Northern Knights, at pick seven, but sources also suggest the Hawks are interested in West Australian midfielder Matt Johnson and have shown some interest in Victorian country inside midfielder Ben Hobbs.
Fremantle and Richmond’s intentions appear much less known than the top six, with the Dockers viewed as a chance to snare Hobbs at either of their picks (which will be eight and 10). The Dockers can also pick key forward Jye Amiss, a Western Australian, with pick eight, but their choice at that selection may be influenced by what they think the Tigers will do at pick nine.
Richmond has been linked to Amiss, Hobbs and also to Greater Western Victoria Rebels key defender Josh Gibcus.
https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/the-top-10-draft-selections-that-appear-locked-in-20211123-p59bb7.html
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Chris Doerre has us drafting Hobbs, Van Rooyen, Bazzo, Taylor and Clarke.
Every club, every pick: ESPN's full AFL phantom draft
Chris Doerre
ESPN
23 November 2021
Throughout 2021, ESPN.com.au AFL draft expert Chris Doerre has cast his eye over the country's best junior footballers to give readers an early insight into the next generation of AFL stars.
While attending live games has yet again been a challenge in a COVID-affected year, Doerre has pored through match vision from this and last year, analysed the stats and talked to industry sources to ensure he can offer the most insightful draft analysis.
This is his final phantom draft of 2021, looking at every pick, bid and selection.
1. North Melbourne - Jason Horne-Francis
2. Western Bulldogs - Sam Darcy (Western Bulldogs father-son) - bid matched
3. Greater Western Sydney - Finn Callaghan
4. Collingwood - Nick Daicos (Collingwood father-son) - bid matched
5. Gold Coast - Mac Andrew (Melbourne - Next Generation Academy)
6. Adelaide - Josh Rachele
7. Hawthorn - Josh Ward
8. Fremantle - Jye Amiss
9. Richmond - Ben Hobbs
Height, Weight: 183cm, 80kg
Profile: A dominant contested ball winner and tackler, Hobbs is one of the readiest to play midfielders in this draft. While Hobbs lacks the kick, speed, athleticism and x-factor of a lot of other top prospects, he plays a consistent brand of football and impacts games with his ferocious attack on the ball and defensive effort.
10. Fremantle - Matthew Johnson
11. St Kilda - Josh Gibcus
12. West Coast - Neil Erasmus
13. Essendon - Nasiah Wanganeen-Milera
14. Port Adelaide - Josh Sinn
15. Greater Western Sydney - Blake Howes
16. Brisbane - Darcy Wilmot
17. Richmond - Jacob Van Rooyen
Height, Weight: 194cm, 91kg
Profile: Despite spending much of the year up forward -- providing a commanding marking target with his leap and aerial strength -- Van Rooyen's play when utilised in defence has been even better. Van Rooyen in defence takes intercept marks at will and with his one-on-one capabilities has proven difficult to beat.
18. Sydney - Tom Brown
19. Melbourne - Campbell Chesser
20. Brisbane - Josh Goater
21. Fremantle - Corey Warner
22. North Melbourne - Jesse Motlop (Fremantle Next-Generation Academy)
23. Hawthorn - Tyler Sonsie
24. Geelong - Mitch Knevitt
25. Hawthorn - Sam Butler
26. Carlton - Arlo Draper
27. Greater Western Sydney - Josh Fahey (Greater Western Sydney Academy) - bid matched
28. St Kilda - Mitch Owens (St Kilda Next-Generation Academy) - bid matched
29. Richmond - Rhett Bazzo
Height, Weight: 195cm, 81kg
Profile: When he gets his confidence up, Bazzo is one of the best in this draft flying for intercept marks and chopping off opposition kicks at will. When asked to play a more defensively-oriented role he is also capable of restricting the impact of his opponents.
30. Richmond - Zac Taylor
Height, Weight: 180cm, 78kg
Profile: With one of the strongest closes to the NAB League season, Taylor showed he is one of the most productive and complete midfielders in this draft. Ending his campaign with the Calder Cannons with 37 disposals, 22 contested possessions and 11 clearances in a 10-point win against Murray, Taylor is a precise and damaging kick, speedy and evasive with ball in hand and has a great inside/outside balance to his game.
31. Richmond - Judson Clarke
Height, Weight: 180cm, 72kg
Profile: A speedy forward, Clarke is one of this draft's best crumbers with his speed, agility and kicking both to targets inside 50 and finishing around goal his greatest strengths. With his ability to take on the game and how damaging he is by foot, Clarke is also viable for consideration as a rebounding defender.
32. West Coast - Toby Conway
33. Geelong - Leek Alleer
34. Sydney - Jake Soligo
35. Geelong - Angus Sheldrick
36. St Kilda - Marcus Windhager (St Kilda Next-Generation Academy) - bid matched
37. Adelaide - James Willis
38. Geelong - Alastair Lord
39. West Coast - Charlie Dean
40. Melbourne - Jack Williams
41. Sydney - Kai Lohmann
42. Brisbane - Eamon Wilkinson
43. North Melbourne - Sam Banks
44. North Melbourne - Brady Hough
45. Collingwood - Lachlan Rankin
46. Melbourne - Taj Woewodin (Melbourne - Father-Son)
47. Essendon - Connor MacDonald
48. Essendon - Cooper Murley
49. Collingwood - Felix Flockhart
50. Hawthorn - Paul Curtis
51. Fremantle - Greg Clark
52. Western Bulldogs - Ronald Fejo Jr
53. West Coast - Matthew Roberts
54. North Melbourne - Jackson Archer (North Melbourne Father-Son)
55. Port Adelaide - Jase Burgoyne (Port Adelaide Father-Son)
56. Adelaide - Hugh Jackson
57. Gold Coast - Charlie Constable
58. Gold Coast - Rory Thompson (re-draft)
59. Western Bulldogs - Blake Schlensog
60. St Kilda - Corey Preston
https://www.espn.com.au/afl/story/_/id/32692219/afl-2021-draft-phantom-draft-chris-doerre-espn-full-afl-phantom-draft-every-club-every-pick
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'Yeah, probably one of those four': Tigers reveal players in mix for top pick
Josh Gibcus, Jye Amiss, Josh Ward or Ben Hobbs could become Tigers on draft night
By Michael Whiting
afl.com.au
23 November 2021
RICHMOND national recruiting manager Matt Clarke says there are four players in line to be taken with its first selection at Wednesday night's NAB AFL Draft.
Clarke said the Tigers, who currently own pick No.7 which will likely be pushed out to No.9 following father-son bidding, would keep a simple strategy.
Speaking on AFL.com.au's NAB AFL Draft Countdown, Clarke agreed one of Josh Gibcus, Jye Amiss, Josh Ward or Ben Hobbs would likely become a Tiger.
Richmond's national recruiting manager Matthew Clarke breaks down who the Tigers are looking at with pick seven.
"Yeah, probably one of those four. There's probably another couple that have been talked about in there and you're just not sure what the first few clubs are doing," Clarke said.
"There's been a lot of players linked to Adelaide and Hawthorn and Fremantle before us, but there's some pretty good players that have put up some good performances, particularly some of those interstate boys that have been able to get some of those carnival games in in SA and WA.
"Potentially one of them jumps in and all of a sudden someone else slides out, so we'll have to wait and see."
Clarke said there was a lot of "cat and mouse" this year with so many players and clubs having to conduct interviews remotely.
"We probably just stick true to our rankings. I think at seven, which will push out, it'll probably be best available at that pick," he said.
"It's shown through the history of the draft, they're the elite players in the top 10. They're fairly sure-fire in that group."
Richmond has five selections inside the top 30 and Clarke said it was still open to packaging picks to move up the order.
https://www.afl.com.au/news/688808/yeah-probably-one-of-those-four-richmond-tigers-reveal-players-in-mix-for-top-pick
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Eastern Ranges defender Tyreece Leiu’s excitement is growing.
“I’ve had a few clubs like Richmond, Carlton and the Hawks that seem pretty keen,” he said on SEN Drive.
Possessing a 193cm and 91kg frame, Leiu has the ideal body to be a stalwart in any AFL backline.
When asked which defenders he pays close attention to, the youngster responded with little hesitation.
“Tom Stewart is definitely the main one that I try and play like, (I’ve) been watching him for a while now,” he said.
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https://www.sen.com.au/news/2021/11/23/three-clubs-pretty-keen-on-roos-fan-who-wants-to-play-like-tom-stewart/
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Ben Waterworth's live draft on Foxsports:
Q: Hey Ben, Gibcus and Hobbs both on the board at 9, who do you think the Tigers go with?
A: I always thought Hobbs (and I'll say Hobbs now) but whispers they're also growing on Gibcus. Very hard to get our heads around these Freo-Tigers-Freo picks,
A: Strong word late yesterday the Dockers were considering Hobbs before Amiss. There's some games going on between Richmond and Freo, which made the phantom draft hard to do. I think if both Erasmus and Johnson are still on the board, they'd choose Johnson.
Q: What's the story with Gibcus, seem to be in most pundits top 6 a month ago, now feels like most likely to miss top 10. Is it teams think they don't need to spend high pick on tall defenders?
A: I think it's mainly because the likes of Hawthorn, Freo, Tigers are well stocked for key backs (Tigers got Tarrant). I've always thought he's exactly what the Suns need though.
Q: Do you think Amiss is a lock for freo??
A: Not necessarily, the Tigers have interest. I can't see him getting past freo's second pick though.
Q: would freo consider trading down 19 (21) to richmond or geelong for their picks, maybe Jack Williams, Gus Sheldrick, Corey Warner
A: Think Freo will consider lots of offers and both the Tigers/Cats well placed to move up. (Although will the Cats and Dockers be on speaking terms again after the Jordan Clark talks? 😂😂)
Q: Where do you see Sonsie landing? Would love for him to fall to Hawks second pick
A: Yep, Hawks and Tigers in the second round the biggest chances.
Q: If someone like Hobbs falls to 13. Can you see Richmond trading 17 and 28 to Essendon? Win win, Richmond get their guy and Essendon get an extra pick in the 20s? Thoughts?
A: Wouldn't rule that out.
https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/draft/afl-phantom-draft-2021-phantom-mock-draft-afl-2021-fox-footy-predictions-news-analysis-draft-order-hawthorn-fremantle/news-story/aa71fa4c430c71ed4483f7b36f441086
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More from Ben Waterworth's live draft chat:
Q: Hi Ben, what do you think the Tigers will likely do with their 3 second round picks - trade up or keep and if so who do they trade or pick?
A: No doubt they'll consider trading but think it's more likely they make a play/negotiate between first and second rounds. I reckon they'll bid on Giants academy prospect Josh Fahey with one of those second-rounders too
Q: Who will Freo go for? Seems odd to think they won't go for Local talent
A: They should get at least one WA guy by the end of the first round. But they like Hobbs
Q: Thoughts on where Zac Taylor might land?
A: He's on the cusp of the first round. Swans maybe. But i think more likely in the second round. Blues, Tigers and Swans again
https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/draft/afl-phantom-draft-2021-phantom-mock-draft-afl-2021-fox-footy-predictions-news-analysis-draft-order-hawthorn-fremantle/news-story/aa71fa4c430c71ed4483f7b36f441086
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Looks like Clarke's let the cat out of the bag....
https://www.afl.com.au/news/688808/-yeah-probably-one-of-those-four-tigers-reveal-players-in-mix-for-top-pick
....or has he? :shh
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Amiss to replace Jack would be a win, don’t have a lot of quality key forwards at Richmond
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I hope we dont get Amiss. Wouldnt be surprised if the player we pick isnt in that four.
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Maybe, if jack at 33 and lynch prone to an injury or two ,a key forward and the best key forward at that may be in the thinking
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Got a feeling if Johnson is there will get him.
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After Collingwood have completed their bid on Daicos I suspect we will trade our pick 31 for their 2022 second rounder.
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Hawthorn's recruiter mentioned our second first round pick (#17) along with Essendon (#13) and Sydney's (#18) first rounders in trying to move up the draft order.
"We're pretty open with that 21, 24. Whether we explore trying to get up in scenarios or even pushing one of them back if it suits where we want to go or even into the future. It just depends how the draft pans out," McKenzie told NAB AFL Draft Countdown on Tuesday.
"Depending on the players that were there you'd certainly ask the question (of pick No.13). You're probably not doing your job if you're not willing to ask the question and see what it would take to move up, whether it's 13 or 17 or 18.
"Whether it's futures, we'll always ask the question. It just depends who's on the board and what you're willing to give up. If there's something there, then we'll definitely ask the question and see what it will take."
https://www.afl.com.au/news/688813/-we-ll-always-ask-the-question-hawks-ponder-live-trade-to-move-up
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Got a feeling if Johnson is there will get him.
Im hoping for Johnson at 9. Id pick him infront of Gibcus, Hobbs and Amiss in that order. Id even go Sinn before Amiss. If we get Johnson and not Gibcus tben hopefully Bazzo can be picked by us with one of our picks in the 20s.
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Dockers keen to take a swing at Amiss, but are keeping an open mind.
https://www.afl.com.au/news/688866/dockers-keen-to-take-a-swing-at-amiss-but-are-keeping-an-open-mind
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The full interview with Matt Clarke:
https://www.richmondfc.com.au/video/1032970/clarke-on-draft-night-countdown?videoId=1032970&modal=true&type=video&publishFrom=1637643042001
'Yeah, probably one of those four': Tigers reveal players in mix for top pick
Josh Gibcus, Jye Amiss, Josh Ward or Ben Hobbs could become Tigers on draft night
By Michael Whiting
afl.com.au
23 November 2021
RICHMOND national recruiting manager Matt Clarke says there are four players in line to be taken with its first selection at Wednesday night's NAB AFL Draft.
Clarke said the Tigers, who currently own pick No.7 which will likely be pushed out to No.9 following father-son bidding, would keep a simple strategy.
Speaking on AFL.com.au's NAB AFL Draft Countdown, Clarke agreed one of Josh Gibcus, Jye Amiss, Josh Ward or Ben Hobbs would likely become a Tiger.
Richmond's national recruiting manager Matthew Clarke breaks down who the Tigers are looking at with pick seven.
"Yeah, probably one of those four. There's probably another couple that have been talked about in there and you're just not sure what the first few clubs are doing," Clarke said.
"There's been a lot of players linked to Adelaide and Hawthorn and Fremantle before us, but there's some pretty good players that have put up some good performances, particularly some of those interstate boys that have been able to get some of those carnival games in in SA and WA.
"Potentially one of them jumps in and all of a sudden someone else slides out, so we'll have to wait and see."
Clarke said there was a lot of "cat and mouse" this year with so many players and clubs having to conduct interviews remotely.
"We probably just stick true to our rankings. I think at seven, which will push out, it'll probably be best available at that pick," he said.
"It's shown through the history of the draft, they're the elite players in the top 10. They're fairly sure-fire in that group."
Richmond has five selections inside the top 30 and Clarke said it was still open to packaging picks to move up the order.
https://www.afl.com.au/news/688808/yeah-probably-one-of-those-four-richmond-tigers-reveal-players-in-mix-for-top-pick
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Gibcus is the guy I'm keen on with pick 7
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No defender with a first rounder we are getting smashed in the guts
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The Age has us taking Gibcus and Johnson.
Phantom AFL draft first round: where the best prospects could land
By Owen Leonard
The Age
November 24, 2021
Here’s how the first round could play out.
1. North Melbourne - Jason Horne-Francis
2. W.Bulldogs - Sam Darcy ...... (matching GWS’ bid)
3. GWS - Finn Callaghan
4. Collingwood - Nick Daicos ...... (matching Gold Coast’s bid)
5. Gold Coast - Mac Andrew
6. Adelaide - Josh Rachele
7. Hawthorn - Josh Ward
8. Fremantle - Jye Amiss
9. Richmond
Josh Gibcus (key defender)
Greater Western Victoria, 196cm/87kg
Gibcus is the best key defender in this year’s draft. He makes his presence felt in the air with his intercept-marking prowess but has also proven his ability to restrict opposition forwards. He is athletic, so would suit playing on the new wave of key forwards like the King twins, Harry McKay and Jamarra Ugle-Hagan. Gibcus is a perfect fit for Richmond, whose key defensive stocks remain thin despite bringing in veteran Robbie Tarrant during the free-agency period. He could construct a long-term partnership with Noah Balta.
10. Fremantle - Ben Hobbs
11. St Kilda - Josh Sinn
12. West Coast - Campbell Chesser
13. Essendon - Nasiah Wanganeen-Milera
14. Port Adelaide - Neil Erasmus
15. GWS - Sam Butler
16. Brisbane - Darcy Wilmot
17. Richmond
Matthew Johnson (midfielder)
Subiaco, 192cm/81kg
Johnson was Western Australia’s best in the AFL grand final curtain raiser against South Australia and caught particular attention after that contest. He is a tall midfielder but rather than imposing himself at the contest, he hurts opposition with his class and decision-making on the outside. It may seem an injustice to place Johnson this low considering the Hawks could take him as early as pick seven, but a combination of list needs and differing club views in the picks to follow mean it is not unrealistic that Johnson slides to the Tigers’ second pick. Here, he would be too good a talent for Richmond to pass up and offers the young midfield talent the Tigers will likely target.
18. Sydney - Josh Goater
19. Melbourne - Blake Howes
20. Brisbane - Jacob van Rooyen
https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/phantom-afl-draft-how-the-first-round-could-play-out-20211123-p59bbj.html
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Cal Twomey’s late mail: Spotlight on TWO clubs, Vic mid intrigue
By Callum Twomey
afl.com.au
24 November 2021
ATTENTION is squarely on Hawthorn and Fremantle's selections at Wednesday night's NAB AFL Draft as a run of picks is set to shape the first round of choices, with Vic Country midfielder Ben Hobbs at the centre of the intrigue.
Hobbs' draft range looks likely to stretch anywhere from pick No.7 through to 14 as clubs navigate their way through a maze of tight calls and 50-50 decisions on prospects.
Hawks' choice at No.7 looms as the start of a set of selections that will have big implications thereafter, with Hawthorn considering midfield trio Josh Ward, Hobbs and Matthew Johnson for the prized selection.
Should the Hawks take Ward, the Dockers look likely to grab key forward Jye Amiss, but Fremantle could also be forced to consider its drafting strategy mindful of who the Tigers are interested in with their pick wedged between their pair of selections.
If the Tigers take Gibcus, the Dockers may edge towards local Neil Erasmus, with Johnson also in their considerations. It could follow with Nasiah Wanganeen-Milera nudging out Josh Goater at the Saints, the Eagles grabbing Hobbs over Johnson, and the Bombers left with Johnson at pick 11.
Under another scenario of the Tigers taking Hobbs and the Dockers following with Erasmus, St Kilda could grab Gibcus and leave Wanganeen-Milera to get to West Coast, with the Eagles also considering Campbell Chesser. Essendon could then swoop on Johnson with their selection, with Port Adelaide also looking at Erasmus, Johnson and Josh Sinn (as well as Hobbs in the chance he got that far).
The Hawks' decision with their pick will have a significant ripple effect, particularly if they side with Johnson, the 192cm midfielder with pace and skills. That could see the Tigers snare Ward, the Saints have a choice between Gibcus and Wanganeen and West Coast possibly with the pick of midfield pair Hobbs and Erasmus.
The block of seven picks between picks 7 and 13 is expected to include Hobbs, Amiss, Ward, Gibcus, Erasmus, Wanganeen-Milera and Johnson (with Chesser at the Eagles the wildcard), with variations of the order of the selections.
Essendon has also been interested in tall wingman Blake Howes, with Chesser and Goater looming as the main contenders to come into that group. None of this trio are among the 14 players attending the draft events spread out around the country.
Zac Taylor looms as a top-20 smokey and has been linked to the Swans, while in the second round Hawthorn has shown late interest in West Australian swingman Rhett Bazzo and the Cats could look at Victorian midfielder Connor MacDonald.
2021 Phantom Draft – Late mail edition
PICK 1 – North Melbourne – Jason Horne-Francis
PICK 2 – Western Bulldogs (matching Greater Western Sydney's bid) – Sam Darcy
PICK 3 – Greater Western Sydney – Finn Callaghan
PICK 4 – Collingwood (matching Gold Coast's bid) – Nick Daicos
PICK 5 – Gold Coast – Mac Andrew
PICK 6 – Adelaide – Josh Rachele
PICK 7 – Hawthorn – Josh Ward
PICK 8 – Fremantle – Jye Amiss
PICK 9 – Richmond – Josh Gibcus
PICK 10 – Fremantle – Neil Erasmus
PICK 11 – St Kilda – Nasiah Wanganeen-Milera
PICK 12 – West Coast – Ben Hobbs
PICK 13 – Essendon – Matthew Johnson
PICK 14 – Port Adelaide – Josh Sinn
PICK 15 – Greater Western Sydney – Sam Butler
PICK 16 – Brisbane – Darcy Wilmot
PICK 17 – Richmond – Tyler Sonsie
PICK 18 – Sydney – Tom Brown
PICK 19 – Melbourne – Blake Howes
PICK 20 – Brisbane – Jacob van Rooyen
PICK 21 – Fremantle – Josh Goater
PICK 22 – North Melbourne – Jesse Motlop
PICK 23 – Hawthorn – Mitch Knevitt
PICK 24 – Geelong – Campbell Chesser
PICK 25 – Geelong (after trade with Western Bulldogs) – Toby Conway
PICK 26 – Hawthorn – Rhett Bazzo
PICK 27 – Greater Western Sydney (after matching Carlton's bid) – Josh Fahey
PICK 28 – Carlton – Connor MacDonald
PICK 29 – St Kilda (after matching Richmond's bid) – Mitchito Owens
PICK 30 – Richmond – Jake Soligo
https://www.afl.com.au/news/688887/cal-twomeys-late-mail-spotlight-on-two-clubs-vic-mid-intrigue
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RICHMOND
Picks: 7, 15, 26, 27, 28, 79
Ideal draft scenario: The Tigers say they’re planning to select the “best player available”, so the obvious ideal scenario for their picks, starting with seven, is that they’re able to do just that. Josh Gibcus would fit in nicely alongside Noah Balta and Robbie Tarrant in defence, while one of Ben Hobbs, Josh Ward or Matt Johnson loom as great midfield options that can come in and develop alongside the already existing young talent like Riley Collier-Dawkins.
Doomsday draft scenario: It’s more of a long-term factor, but the repercussions of getting this draft wrong could be significant given how substantive the Tigers’ draft hand is. There is a fair amount of regeneration occurring within the Tigers’ list and the success of this year’s draft selections could spearhead the side’s future runs at flag success. If things don’t pan out well, however, the slide we saw this year is only going to continue as more and more premiership veterans begin to hang up the boots.
https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/draft/afl-draft-2021-every-clubs-picks-order-best-and-worst-case-scenarios-prospects-rankings/news-story/1332c5104676e32c1736bcc4658cca0d
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Isn't that the doomsday scenario for all clubs.
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Isn't that the doomsday scenario for all clubs.
Or groundhog day for others
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I'm hearing that were open to offers for pick 15. I am not sure what the obsession is with continually trading into the following years draft with no guarantee a better player will be available. We did that last year with pick 21. We should be using 15 & 28 to trade up into this years draft not trading back or out of it.
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10.15AM — TIGERS TIPPED TO TRIGGER SHAKE UP
Richmond has one of the best hands of any club, holding selections 7, 15, 26, 27, 28 and 79.
And its been tipped to use some of those assets to make a potential draft night shake up.
According to AFL Media draft expert Cal Twomey, the Tigers could bundle some of their picks to move up the order.
“I wouldn’t be surprised if if they try to do something with one of their picks in the 20s,” he told 3AW’s Sportsday.
“Potentially package it with Pick 15 and try and move up the board a little bit because there is live trading to happen.
“That would be an opportunity for them to really make some ground on the top 12 or 13 selections.”
What Richmond does with its Pick 7 — which will slide back to Pick 9 after father-son bids — will be an interesting watch.
There’s been some suggestion that the Tigers could look to plug holes in their line-up, but Twomey believes they’ll go for the best long-term prospects.
“I still think that they could be weighing up midfielder Ben Hobbs early on versus key defender Josh Gibcus,” Twomey added.
“That’s a tight call because they’ve lost some talls right at the top in terms of Cal Coleman-Jones, Mabior Chol and David Astbury, all in one hit over the off-season That would have come as a surprise to lose all three of them in one go.
“So do they take the tall or do they go for the midfield replacement who down the track might be the next Trent Cotchin or Dion Prestia?”
https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/draft/afl-draft-live-2021-afl-draft-2021-latest-news-updates-picks-prospects-phantom-draft-order/news-story/a6d64eaa2c3ab7e1b98c7e610ceb1b7d
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I hope we don’t trade at all unless it’s too good not to, We have a chance to set our selves up for the future,
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I'm hearing that were open to offers for pick 15. I am not sure what the obsession is with continually trading into the following years draft with no guarantee a better player will be available. We did that last year with pick 21. We should be using 15 & 28 to trade up into this years draft not trading back or out of it.
I agree. But even without trading up there should be a good player at 15 (17). Josh Fahey, Darcy Wilmot etc maybe get a slider.
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Unless your trading it to Norf or Crows for their first pick next year it's not worth it. Our luck we do it and that team wins the flag
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Foxsports in their phantom draft has changed our pick 17 from Van Rooyen to Erasmus.
PICK 17 – RICHMOND: NEIL ERASMUS
Position: Midfielder-forward
Size: 188cm, 80kg
Club: Subiaco/Sorrento-Duncraig/Hale/Western Australia
AFL player comparison: Tim Taranto
An exciting, versatile player blessed with great footy smarts and strong overhead marking ability, Erasmus had a stunning start to his season and only improved as the year progressed. He was ranked among the top five players for disposals, contested possessions, intercept marks, clearances and score assists in the WAFL colts, but has also proven an ability to push forward and hit the scoreboard in the past. It’s understood the Eagles have had a long interest in Erasmus, who’s one of three WA-based players that’s around the top-10 mark.
In the mix: If the Tigers didn’t pick Jye Amiss with their first selection, Jacob Van Rooyen would be a strong chance with their second. Campbell Chesser would have to be considered here if available still. This would also be talented Eastern Ranges midfielder Tyler Sonsie’s best chance of being selected in the first round, however he’s now looking more likely to be snapped up on Thursday night. It’s also the earliest a bid on top Giants academy prospect Josh Fahey would receive a bid, but the Tigers would likely save that move for Thursday night. Could they snare Sam Butler after letting brother Dan go a few years ago?
https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/draft/afl-draft-2021-start-time-afl-draft-2021-date-how-to-watch-on-tv-live-news-prospects-nominees-nominations-list/news-story/bd4f09bc07e07636c58f3ed27282b48e?recommendedCount=0
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THE TWO PLAYERS THE TIGERS COULD BE WEIGHING UP WITH THEIR FIRST PICK
By Andrew Slevison
SEN
24 November 2021
Richmond takes a very strong hand into this year’s AFL Draft which kicks off on Wednesday night.
List manager Blair Hartley and recruiting boss Matthew Clarke have some significant decisions to make on who they will take with their earliest pick.
The Tigers hold five selections inside the top 30 with their first pick coming at No.7, which will slide back to No.9 after father-son bids on Nick Daicos and Sam Darcy.
AFL Media’s draft expert Cal Twomey believes the Tigers will be weighing up whether they target a midfielder in the form of Ben Hobbs or look at a key position option like his GWV Rebels and Vic Country teammate Josh Gibcus.
Twomey says there is also a decision to be made about topping up for now or looking to the future for a club that has won three flags in the past five seasons.
“A great hand,” Twomey said on Sportsday.
“We had Matt Clarke on the Draft Countdown and we did speak about do you select players based on the view that you’re a chance to win the flag next year with a full list.
“With the early picks I don’t think they’ll do that. You still have to pick what’s best for the long term and you build for the long term via the draft.
“I still think that they could be weighing up Ben Hobbs, the midfielder, early on versus the key defender Josh Gibcus.
“That’s a tight call because they’ve lost some talls right at the top in terms of Cal Coleman-Jones, Mabior Chol and David Astbury retired, all in one hit over the off-season That would have come as a surprise to lose all three of them in one go.
“So do they take the tall or do they go for the midfield replacement who down the track might be the next Trent Cotchin or Dion Prestia.”
Twomey also suggests there could be some live trading done by Richmond in a bid to sneak up the draft order.
“I wouldn’t be surprised if if they try to do something with one of their picks in the 20s,” he added.
“Potentially package it with pick 15 and try and move up the board a little bit because there is live trading to happen.
“That would be an opportunity for them to really make some ground on the top 12 or 13 selections.”
https://www.sen.com.au/news/2021/11/23/the-two-players-richmond-could-be-weighing-up-with-their-first-pick/
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AFL Draft Bingo Card
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https://twitter.com/mattforrest29/status/1463282946178121728
;D
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Phantom Drafts from various media outlets :)
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https://twitter.com/purplereign95/status/1463358143971295239
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The Tigers have a list of at least four players they believe could be available at their pick, including midfielders Hobbs and Ward. But if those two players are off the board, the Tigers are two key-position players: Tall defender Josh Gibcus and tall forward Amiss.
While Gibcus hadn’t been linked closely to the Tigers over recent weeks, foxfooty.com.au understands the club has put work into the gun interceptor late in the piece. It comes following the departures of David Astbury (retirement) and Ryan Garthwaite (delisted) to a backline that includes captain contender Dylan Grimes (30 years old) and recent acquisition Robbie Tarrant (32).
However if the Tigers opt for Amiss – and they have been linked to the East Perth forward – the Dockers would likely turn to another WA-based talent such as Johnson or Subiaco teammate Neil Erasmus.
Erasmus is arguably WA’s best prospect, but there’s a chance he slips to as late as Richmond’s second selection. But the Tigers are willing to trade Pick 17 if it means they secure a superior draft hand.
https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/draft/afl-draft-2021-latest-news-updates-whispers-live-trades-darcy-wilmot-josh-ward-matt-johnson-ben-hobbs/news-story/00220d203ad9fca84946405e94326edc
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Usually the media have a fair idea what we're doing with our early picks. It's good that this year they don't have a clue and are just guessing. Twomey usually does a full phantom draft each year but the fact he only did a top 30 is an illustration the media are totally in the dark.
Now it's up to our recruiters to nail tonight with our five top 30 picks whoever they choose. At the end of the day that's what only matters.
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If Clarke and co get it right tonight they set us up for another decade of success.
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Our bunker:
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https://twitter.com/Richmond_FC/status/1463407995845431297
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Brad Johnson on Fox Footy just said he'd been taking Hobbs as first pick in the draft.
David King has Sam Butler at pick 9. Reckons Richmond will take him at 18 (sic).
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Our bunker:
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https://twitter.com/Richmond_FC/status/1463407995845431297
I can't see Hardwick. Is that right?
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Just get on with it FFS. What time does it start.
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RFC recruiter Matt Clarke on Fox Footy just now:
- We haven't had this many picks in the top 30 for a long while. Believe we can fill gaps on our list. We put in as much work in our 4th and 5th pick as our first.
- Best available at Pick 9 regardless of size or position.
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Just get on with it FFS. What time does it start.
Meant to have started at 7:10pm.
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How many picks happen tonight?
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Our bunker:
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https://twitter.com/Richmond_FC/status/1463407995845431297
I can't see Hardwick. Is that right?
He's not in the pic. Is he behind the camera?
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How many picks happen tonight?
Only the first round. So including bids about 20.
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How many picks happen tonight?
Only the first round. So including bids about 20.
So I'm guessing two or three hours.
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At Marvel Stadium (according to aflphotos)
Horne-Francis
Daicos
Darcy
Rachele
Andrew
Hobbs
Amiss
Erasmus
Johnson
Wanganeen-Milera
Gibcus
Sinn
https://www.aflphotos.com.au/galleries/results/?q=collection:AFL%202021%20Media%20-%20NAB%20AFL%20Draft
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How many picks happen tonight?
Only the first round. So including bids about 20.
So I'm guessing two or three hours.
Truth in jest :lol.
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1st pick and they have to take the full 5 minutes.... :sleep
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Rival clubs expecting Richmond could be involved in a trade up tonight, perhaps with Hawthorn. Watch this space.
https://twitter.com/DanielCherny/status/1463424218591215617
5 and 21 for 7 and 15
https://twitter.com/rcrispino/status/1463425116453302278
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Finally as it's just about to start ...
And Geelong and the Dogs want to do a trade for the Dogs' pick 23.
So we're waiting for that :P.
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The trade is actually between North & the Dogs.
TRADE
North gets: 32, 52 and future third
Dogs gets: 42, 47 and future third
https://twitter.com/FOXFOOTY/status/1463426003888312325
And finally North takes their pick:
1. North - Jason Horne-Francis
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Clearly stoked to be going to Norf :snidegrin
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PICK 2 - @GWSGIANTS - BID MADE
Sam Darcy (ruck-forward, Oakleigh Chargers/Glen Iris/Scotch College/Vic Metro)
The @westernbulldogs now decide whether to match.
https://twitter.com/FOXFOOTY/status/1463427379901067264
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Dogs match the Giants' bid.
2. W.Bulldogs - Sam Darcy
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3. GWS - Finn Callaghan
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Missed this TRADE at the start of the draft.
Geelong get pick 23
Bulldogs get picks 32, 34.
https://twitter.com/AFL/status/1463429243249913856
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Trade Complete
Nth Melbourne Receive Pick 36
Collingwood Receive Picks 48, 2022 3rd Rd
Collingwood match Suns bid for Daicos.
4. Collingwood - Nick Daicos
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5. Gold Coast - Mac Andrew
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6. Adelaide - Josh Rachele
Top 6 as expected.
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Apparently Daicos not happy to be #4 haha
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😂
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Ward or Johnson for Hawthorn or do they surprise and go for Gibcus?
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David King on Finn Callaghan "he's a beautiful kick, that's the one attribute that stamps him as an AFL great."
He just got drafted :huh3.
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7. Hawthorn - Josh Ward
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So now it's Freo. Hobbs or Amiss?
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8. Fremantle - Jye Amiss
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We're next.
Hobbs or Gibcus?
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9. Richmond - Josh Gibcus
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Bah
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Like the choice. We can pick up a few midfielders later.
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Could of had a good one instead of another plodder
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10. Fremantle - Neil Erasmus
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C'mon Tigers trade up for Hobbs here.
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Could of had a good one instead of another plodder
Way to get behind the young fella :thumbsdown
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11. St Kilda - Nasiah Wanganeen-Milera
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Could of had a good one instead of another plodder
Way to get behind the young fella :thumbsdown
No I wasn’t referring to Gibcus, I was hoping to get a first class midfielder not a mediocre one later on. Don’t like spending our first rounder on a backman sorry
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TRADE
Port Adelaide gets: 12
West Coast get: 14 and a future second-round pick
12. Port Adelaide - Josh Sinn
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9. Richmond - Josh Gibcus
I'm generally surprised by that selection
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Could of had a good one instead of another plodder
Way to get behind the young fella :thumbsdown
No I wasn’t referring to Gibcus, I was hoping to get a first class midfielder not a mediocre one later on. Don’t like spending our first rounder on a backman sorry
Same here
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Could of had a good one instead of another plodder
Way to get behind the young fella :thumbsdown
No I wasn’t referring to Gibcus, I was hoping to get a first class midfielder not a mediocre one later on. Don’t like spending our first rounder on a backman sorry
Ah misinterpreted. My mistake. In any case let’s see what they’ve got planned for the midfield.
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Could be the next Rance
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13. Essendon - Ben Hobbs
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Maybe Balta going forward. Hard to see where Gibcus fits in the next 2 years with back 6 of
Grimes Tarrant Broad
Vlastuin Balta Short
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Bombers get Hobbs, get luckier a holes.
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Maybe Balta going forward. Hard to see where Gibcus fits in the next 2 years with back 6 of
Grimes Tarrant Broad
Vlastuin Balta Short
Long term replacement for Tarrant.
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14. West Coast - Campbell Chesser
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Aaand Essendon get Hobbs, ah well. Gibcus, hope is very successful in future
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So who do we pick next?
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15. GWS - Leek Alleer
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So who do we pick next?
Twomey said Sonsie at 17. A mid.
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16. Brisbane - Darcy Wilmot
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He would be good
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We're next.
Expected to be Tyler Sonsie but Matt Johnson still on the board. As is Van Rooyen if we go for a tall forward/defender swingman.
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So who do we pick next?
Twomey said Sonsie at 17. A mid.
Also I would like this pick. Was a top pick before Injury. Fingers crossed
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Don't trade this. Johnson, Sonsie, Butler
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Wouldn't surprise if hawks come hard for 17
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17. Richmond - Tom Brown
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wtf
Do we not want mids?!
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Lots of talent left. All of Sonsie, Johnson and JVR would be nice.
Edit: wtf just happened and who is Tom Brown?
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17. Richmond - Tom Brown
Who?
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Stupid pick with Johnson and Sonsie on the board , disappointing
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Good selection. Will also upset the cats as they traded up to 23 to get him
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Focusing on our setting up our backline for the next decade it seems.
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18. Sydney - Angus Sheldrick
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Tough as nails.
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17. Richmond - Tom Brown
Hope he is a better footballer than journalist :rollin
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So we gazump them and miss out on a good mid again, good trick
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Tough as nails.
Is he? Because he profile says he needs to work on contested ball and strength haha.
Is he the next Vlastuin or what?
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19. Melbourne - Jacob Van Rooyen
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Johnson was suppose tobe top 10 alot of clubs passed.
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Shows we don’t rate centre clearances.
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20. Brisbane - Kai Lohmann
That should be it for tonight.
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How stupid is this over 2 nights.. hate this format
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A continuing stratčgy
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Kai Lohman to Brisbane. We would be disappointed with that I reckon.
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Lots of quality (? As I don't really know) midfielders still left on the board. We could clean up with our group of picks here.
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Shows we don’t rate centre clearances.
Or perhaps we just rate RCD, Ross, Martyn etc at least more than this year's crop of mids... :shh
...and we're after Green and/or Taranto next year... :shh :shh
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Without knowing anything about any of the draftees, a mid-sized general defender seems like an odd choice for a first rounder. Seems like the type of role you could fill with a later/rookie pick. Would have preferred a mid or another KP. Anyway best of luck to the kid, hopefully he plays 200+ games and wins multiple flags for the RFC.
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How stupid is this over 2 nights.. hate this format
Yep absolutely pointless it being over 2 nights
19 20 picks over 2 hours, what a shambles
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Lots of quality (? As I don't really know) midfielders still left on the board. We could clean up with our group of picks here.
Johnson, Sonsie, Taylor, Butler(mid/fwd), Knevitt, Murley, Stagg, Howes (mid/fwd).... :shh
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Kai Lohman to Brisbane. We would be disappointed with that I reckon.
Yep.
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Methinks I may not be the only one who gets Fiora vibes from Johnson.... :shh
...having said that wouldn't be too disappointed if he fell to one of our next three picks... :shh :shh
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I reckon the Brown pick is wrong. Not because he doesnt warrant being pickef but we have midfield problems and did nothing to fix it tonight.
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I too am befuddled but they obviously have a plan
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Methinks I may not be the only one who gets Fiora vibes from Johnson.... :shh
...having said that wouldn't be too disappointed if he fell to one of our next three picks... :shh :shh
I like Johnson but not to be chosen inbthe first 20 picks shows theres an issue somewhere.
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Perhaps they are replacing Astbury & Houli with similar type players. I like shoring up the defensive group with quality.
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Add Goater, Motlop and then a couple of others Bazzo or Conway there’s a bit left on the board
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Yep Goater as well....deep draft for mids and plenty of quality still on the board... :shh
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I reckon the Brown pick is wrong. Not because he doesnt warrant being pickef but we have midfield problems and did nothing to fix it tonight.
We lack that creator and drive from hb Short don't have it Houli only did.
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Oops, Draper and Warner can be added to the list
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The following players are left.
Matt Johnson
Sam Butler
Tyler Sonsie
Blake Howes
Josh Goater
Jesse Motlop
Mitch Knevitt
Toby Conway
Arlo Draper
Josh Fahey
Connor McDonald
Jake Soligo
Zac Taylor
Rhett Bazzo
Jack Williams
Plenty of good options
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Exactly...we're still laughing at this stage...Gibcus is a great pick....Brown was unexpected due to the position he plays (his junior position which is always subject to change) but hardly some unrated unknown....was linked to us in a few phantoms albeit at one our last three picks IIRC....let's wait see what happens tomorrow before we go into collective meltdown... got a great hand with plenty of quality still left on the board.....even just two mids from that list and one of Williams or Bazzo will be a great result... :shh
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The following players are left.
Matt Johnson
Sam Butler
Tyler Sonsie
Blake Howes
Josh Goater
Jesse Motlop
Mitch Knevitt
Toby Conway
Arlo Draper
Josh Fahey
Connor McDonald
Jake Soligo
Zac Taylor
Rhett Bazzo
Jack Williams
Plenty of good options
I dont think theyll pick Bazzo now they took Gibcus. Fahey will go to GWS. Conway is a ruck no point taking him. Of that list I like Taylor. For Johnson to not be picked there msy be an issue supporters cant see but the recruiters can. Still if he was on the board at our pick Id select him.
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Happy with Gibby.
Brown strikes me as an unnecessary reach but watevs.
Be nice if we could get a mid at some point.
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Best mid draft in ages they say so we load up on backmen with our best picks in years , next year is sposedto be good for talls so no doubt we will make a killing on midgets
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You can reason tbe gibcus pick. Tarrant is 33, Grimes 31, we lost Houli and Astbury but Brown is just a half back. Those types are dime a dozen. He may be a great player but at this pick we should have taken a mid.
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Brown could be eyed for position in the guts to.Like I said we don't have a quality half back flanker who creates.
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Fact is you need good players all over the ground. Who is to say Brown can't play mid In the Future?
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Would like sonsie but he will go before we get a sniff
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Fact is you need good players all over the ground. Who is to say Brown can't play mid In the Future?
:clapping
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Callum Twomey's round 1 draft review:
https://www.afl.com.au/video/689159/how-your-club-fared-during-the-first-round-of-the-draft?videoId=689159&modal=true&type=video&publishFrom=1637749181001
"Richmond pick up a key defender and a running defender. So that's clearly been an area of focus for them. Gibcus fits a need for the Richmond line-up going forward so great pick up there".
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Time will tell, he might be a. Star.
I don’t think a lot of us think Browns is a bad player without potential , I just question the choice seeing there was a lot of quality mids that would have fitted nicely into our mid field.
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Roberts another mid still on the board as well...people seem to have gone off him of late but was rated fairly high at one point IIRC... :shh
Ned Long another one still there.... :shh :shh
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He’s a bit slow I hear and with all the AFL’s changes it’s hard for kids who aren’t quarterbacks to make it, wonder if Greg Williams and Sam Mitchell would get picked up.
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Roberts another mid still on the board as well...people seem to have gone off him of late but was rated fairly high at one point IIRC... :shh
Ned Long another one still there.... :shh :shh
Wouldn't hesitate in taking him with our fifth selection. A pure mid
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Lots of quality (? As I don't really know) midfielders still left on the board. We could clean up with our group of picks here.
Johnson, Sonsie, Taylor, Butler(mid/fwd), Knevitt, Murley, Stagg, Howes (mid/fwd).... :shh
And yet we picked a tom brown
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Lots of quality (? As I don't really know) midfielders still left on the board. We could clean up with our group of picks here.
Johnson, Sonsie, Taylor, Butler(mid/fwd), Knevitt, Murley, Stagg, Howes (mid/fwd).... :shh
And yet we picked a tom brown
You clearly have no idea about football
Edit: Leave out the namecalling.
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Callum Twomey's round 1 draft review:
https://www.afl.com.au/video/689159/how-your-club-fared-during-the-first-round-of-the-draft?videoId=689159&modal=true&type=video&publishFrom=1637749181001
"Richmond pick up a key defender and a running defender. So that's clearly been an area of focus for them. Gibcus fits a need for the Richmond line-up going forward so great pick up there".
For me if still there at 26 id be all over Goater. Knevitt, and Draper. Might get lucky and one maybe two gets to us. One or Two of Howes Williams and Bazzo would be good with the other picks.
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Lots of quality (? As I don't really know) midfielders still left on the board. We could clean up with our group of picks here.
Johnson, Sonsie, Taylor, Butler(mid/fwd), Knevitt, Murley, Stagg, Howes (mid/fwd).... :shh
And yet we picked a tom brown
You clearly have no idea about football
Yet he hardly addresses an outstanding need fmd the Tassie boy Banks looks just as good at hb and we would not have had to use a top 17 pick to get him.
If the club thinks our mid stocks a good enough then i have to disagree especially moving fwd. With 5 top 30 picks it is just not an area we can ignore.
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The more I think about it out picks make a bit more sense.
Areas of need are defence and mids. Even tho we lost CCJ and Daw. I think Lynch and Jack have 2022 locked in with possibly Bank and Soldo rotating forwards possibly long term. Jack only needs replacing for 2024.
The draft has very little decent defensive players so it makes sense plus the fact Geelong pick at 23 they would have most certainly picked up Brown without question. Losing Jordan Clarke off half back and being 20 games away from father son. I love the fact we picked Brown up with their pick lol
The next 10 rated picks are all mids. I'd expect us to pick 3 mids next 3 picks and with some luck a couple could be top 20 type rated mids which would be a huge win for us.
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Windhager another who should be up for grabs if Owens gets bid on before him as I doubt Aints would have enough points to match bids for both players... :shh
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The following players are left.
Matt Johnson
Sam Butler
Tyler Sonsie
Blake Howes
Josh Goater
Jesse Motlop
Mitch Knevitt
Toby Conway
Arlo Draper
Josh Fahey
Connor McDonald
Jake Soligo
Zac Taylor
Rhett Bazzo
Jack Williams
Plenty of good options
A guess of the next 7 picks before ours based on reading around other clubs forums (assuming no trades).
21. Freo - Johnson
22. North - Motlop
23. Haw - Sonsie
24. Geel - Knevitt
25. Geel - Conway
26. Haw - Butler
27. Carl - MacDonald
Leaves three of the rest for us to choose from at picks 28-30.
ps. It also wouldn't be a surprise if we make a bid for Fahey with GWS matching it and/or a bid for Owens with St Kilda matching it.
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I hope we trade out of the draft tonight and trade into next years draft. I hope we get Taylor beyond that Id trade out the other two picks for a 1st rounder next year or if Taylor is gone trade out all 3 picks for a future 1st and 2nd.
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Lots of quality (? As I don't really know) midfielders still left on the board. We could clean up with our group of picks here.
Johnson, Sonsie, Taylor, Butler(mid/fwd), Knevitt, Murley, Stagg, Howes (mid/fwd).... :shh
And yet we picked a tom brown
You clearly have no idea about football
Edit: Leave out the namecalling.
And you clearly have no idea about the rules of posting on a forum….
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The following players are left.
Matt Johnson
Sam Butler
Tyler Sonsie
Blake Howes
Josh Goater
Jesse Motlop
Mitch Knevitt
Toby Conway
Arlo Draper
Josh Fahey
Connor McDonald
Jake Soligo
Zac Taylor
Rhett Bazzo
Jack Williams
Plenty of good options
A guess of the next 7 picks before ours based on reading around other clubs forums (assuming no trades).
21. Freo - Johnson
22. North - Motlop
23. Haw - Sonsie
24. Geel - Knevitt
25. Geel - Conway
26. Haw - Butler
27. Carl - MacDonald
Leaves three of the rest for us to choose from at picks 28-30.
ps. It also wouldn't be a surprise if we make a bid for Fahey with GWS matching it and/or a bid for Owens with St Kilda matching it.
Blake Howes
Josh Goater
Arlo Draper
Josh Fahey
Jake Soligo
Zac Taylor
Rhett Bazzo
Jack Williams
Of those ones left, assuming GWS match for Fahey, I would be very happy to get Taylor and Bazzo. Then maybe Draper.
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I hope we trade out of the draft tonight and trade into next years draft. I hope we get Taylor beyond that Id trade out the other two picks for a 1st rounder next year or if Taylor is gone trade out all 3 picks for a future 1st and 2nd.
Plenty of talent there midfielders galore hit the draft.
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They might not get Bazzo now we have Gibcus , two of Howes ,Goater Taylor and Draper would be a win
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Bids are expected to come in the first 10 or so selections tonight for Greater Western Sydney Academy prospect Josh Fahey and St Kilda Next Generation Academy product Mitchito Owens, with the Blues linked to a bid on half-back Fahey and the Tigers a chance to bid on Owens.
Ruckman Toby Conway will come into contention for Geelong and also the Blues, while the Hawks have done plenty of work on Butler and could be a chance to nab him. Tyler Sonsie, too, will be in the mix for Hawthorn's selections but could also be available for the Tigers' stretch of three straight picks from No.28-30.
https://www.afl.com.au/news/689312/clubs-talking-pick-swaps-why-freo-could-slide-down-the-draft-board
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Ralph Malph reckons we will try to trade with Shockers for pick 21 to get Johnson but Whoreforn want him too and have a higher pick (23) to offer... :shh
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Ralph Malph reckons we will try to trade with Shockers for pick 21 to get Johnson but Whoreforn want him too and have a higher pick (23) to offer... :shh
Tigers, Hawks circle shock slider.
Paywall: https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/draft/afl-draft-2021-every-pick-and-all-the-news-from-the-second-night/news-story/1add6a8d64dfbaa0eb0ab2e484f4800a
Edit: Says both clubs have the draft capital to get pick 21 from Freo but Freo likely to want to get back in to the 2nd or 3rd round next year as they’ve traded their own picks.
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Updated 2021 NAB AFL Draft order
ROUND TWO
21 - Fremantle
22 - North Melbourne
23 - Hawthorn
24 - Geelong
25 - Geelong
26 - Hawthorn
27 - Carlton
28 - Richmond
29 - Richmond
30 - Richmond
...
ROUND FIVE
69 - Collingwood
70 - North Melbourne
71 - Adelaide
72 - Hawthorn
73 - Carlton
74 - Richmond
FUTURE 2022 DRAFT SELECTIONS
Richmond - 1st, 2nd, 2nd (tied to North), 5th, ...
Fremantle - 1st, 4th (tied to Geel), 5th, ....
Hawthorn - 1st, 2nd, 3rd (tied to Freo), 4th (tied to Suns), 5th, ....
https://www.afl.com.au/news/689378/updated-draft-order-every-club-s-picks-ahead-of-night-two
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Hawks would have to be in box seat if Freo doesnt want Johnson. 2 picks for the one would be the going rate. 23 & 26 for 21. That's a hefty price to pay when the draft picks aren't that far apart.
Not sure what we could offer to trump that deal.
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If you want a player you have to pay the price.
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They might not get Bazzo now we have Gibcus , two of Howes ,Goater Taylor and Draper would be a win
I'd still be keen on Bazzo. See if someone like Balta can play forward.
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The best players still available in the AFL Draft
We’ve listed the top prospects still on offer and which clubs could be interested 👇
Ben Lawless
zerohanger.com
NOVEMBER 25, 2021 - 4:38PM
Matt Johnson
West Coast and Richmond are two of the clubs previously linked to Johnson in the first round, and could both try and trade up to take the flashy midfielder. The curveball could be Fremantle themselves, who have already targeted homegrown talent. With the departure of Cerra, he could be a great replacement with less of the flight risk for the Dockers.
Sam Butler
Richmond and Fremantle have both been linked to Butler and would likely be considering him with their first selections. With selections 28, 29 and 30 the Tigers have the trade assets to trade up for a player like Butler. If he falls through to picks 24, it is hard to see Geelong not calling his name with one of those two selections.
Tyler Sonsie
The Hawks will have some intel about Sonsie, with coach Sam Mitchell having already coached him at the VFL level. There are two selections prior to them, which could feel like a long wait. If he is still on the board then the Hawks would seriously consider him at pick 23. The other club that would look at him is Richmond, having already been considering him with their 17th pick.
https://www.zerohanger.com/the-best-players-still-available-in-the-afl-draft-94935/
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No trades completed in the pick swaps window before tonight's second night of the draft. We wait and see how many are done on the clock once the draft starts soon. Certainly lots of talks today around shifting picks in the 20s.
https://twitter.com/CalTwomey/status/1463774818231226371
The Hawks have been working hard to strike a trade with Freo for Pick 21. Still keen on Matthew Johnson. Would have to be a juicy offer for the Dockers to entertain so late.
https://twitter.com/bjwaterworth/status/1463776827990708224
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Night Two has finally started. Freo on the clock.
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21. Fremantle - Matthew Johnson.
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nothing we want will be left, lol
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22. North - Josh Goater
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geelong will take sonsie and butler if Hawthorn don't I jumped ahead there
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Hawks will I reckon
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23. Hawthorn - Sam Butler
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geelong will take sonsie
If they do it's probably because they are still ticked off with us taking Brown lol. Sonsie hasn't been linked to Geelong in the phantom drafts.
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24. Geelong - Toby Conway
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25. Geelong - Mitchell Knevitt
As expected.
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Up to the Hawks now if they want Sonsie ahead of us.
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Sonsie going to go here.
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Sonsie going to go here.
They know him well too playing for Box Hill.
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Players still available.
Tyler Sonsie
Blake Howes
Jesse Motlop
Arlo Draper
Josh Fahey
Jake Soligo
Zac Taylor
Rhett Bazzo
Jack Williams
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26. Hawthorn - Connor MacDonald.
Wow. That will make us happy. Not Carlton though who wanted him with the next pick.
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interesting, He is good though, solid pick
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27. Carlton - Jesse Motlop.
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Sonsie there for the taking if we want him.
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after reading about sonsie's injuries I reckon a few might be shy on him
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And who said there would be nothing left.
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Here we go.
Sonsie
Howes
Taylor
Please
Although probably take one tall and trade the last to 22
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Players still available.
Tyler Sonsie
Blake Howes
Arlo Draper
Josh Fahey
Jake Soligo
Zac Taylor
Rhett Bazzo
Jack Williams
Pick any three now.
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watcha reckon, Draper, Taylor Sonsie any order
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Bid on Fahey would be the interesting move.
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We'll probably put a bid in for Fahey and/or Owens. Bidding is what we do lol.
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28. Richmond - Tyler Sonsie
We got our man.
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So who do we want next?
Zac Taylor?
Bazzo?
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29. Richmond - Samuel Banks
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Here we go, happens each year. The virtual unknown.
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Shifter a big wrap.
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Banks is from Clarence. Same as Jack Riewoldt (different type obviously).
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Must of rang up fine eyes for ol times sakes
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30. Richmond - Judson Clarke
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INb4 melts.... :shh
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31. West Coast - Brady Hough
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INb4 melts.... :shh
There will be plentyyyyy
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Good night folks, let's reconvene in 2025 to see how we went.
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32. Geelong - James Willis
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33. St Kilda - Mitch Owens ....... (matched Swans bid)
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34. Sydney - Matthew Roberts
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35. North - Paul Curtis
Surprise Bazzo is still on the board.
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36. Adelaide - Jake Soligo
We were linked to him.
ps. AFL blocked a trade between Adelaide and Melbourne :huh
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37. West Coast - Rhett Bazzo
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Glad we got Sonsie.
I'd have gone for Taylor and Bazzo with our other two personally.
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Glad we got Sonsie.
I'd have gone for Taylor and Bazzo with our other two personally.
Yep
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35. North - Paul Curtis
Surprise Bazzo is still on the board.
Interesting that all the blokes people wanted us to take that were left like Bazzo, Williams, Taylor & Howes are all still on board nearly 10 picks later so it's not as if only we ovelooked them and they went with the very next picks....perhaps our recruiters do actually know a thing or two and aren't just running their own race or trying to be cute... :shh
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38. North - Miller Bergman
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39. Melbourne - Blake Howes
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35. North - Paul Curtis
Surprise Bazzo is still on the board.
Interesting that all the blokes people wanted us to take that were left like Bazzo, Williams, Taylor & Howes are all still on board nearly 10 picks later so itks not as if we ovelooked them and the they went the very next picks....perhaps our recruiters do actually know a thing or two and aren't just running their own race or trying to be cute... :shh
True. However, I did see a couple of WA vs SA games Bazzo played in and liked what I saw as a tall defender. I'd guess he was off our radar once we took Gibcus last night.
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We got the gem of the defenders imo.
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40. Sydney - Corey Wagner ..... ( joins his brother)
41. Brisbane - James Tunstill
42. GWS - Josh Fahey ...... (matched Dogs bid)
43. W.Bulldogs - Arthur Jones
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44. Adelaide - Zac Taylor
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45. Collingwood - Arlo Draper
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46. Essendon - Alastair Lord
47. St Kilda - Marcus Windhager ...... (matched Geelong's bid)
48. Geelong - Flynn Kroeger
49. Collingwood - Cooper Murley
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Bombers take Garrett McDonough from our VFL.
Good pick, good player.
Makes me hate them even more
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well, we coulda taken him
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Has anyone passed yet
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Not yet Ramps.
50. Essendon - Garrett McDonagh ..... (as pmac said they've drafted another one of VFL-listed players)
51. St Kilda - Oscar Adams
52. Collingwood - Harrison Harvey
53: Hawthorn - Jai Serong
54. Fremantle - Eric Benning .... (Freo's own NGA)
55. Port Adelaide - Hugh Jackson
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All our picks post 18 and on seem to be chaos style players in the forward line…
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Bombers take Garrett McDonough from our VFL.
Good pick, good player.
Makes me hate them even more
They love our VFL players... :shh
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All our picks post 18 and on seem to be chaos style players in the forward line…
Yeah but who is creating the chaos coz they are all outside players
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56. Port Adelaide - Dante Visentini
57. Hawthorn - pass.
57. St Kilda - pass.
57. West Coast - Jack Williams
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All our picks post 18 and on seem to be chaos style players in the forward line…
Yeah but who is creating the chaos coz they are all outside players
Yep..: time will tell but not looking good IMHO, remember the recruiter who pick up skinny left footers, …. No good, for me idle they are slow, under 80 kgs, forget it, there will be exceptions but…just saying
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58. Sydney - Lachlan Rankin
59. GWS - pass.
59. North - Jackson Archer .... (F/S)
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Ned Long could miss out completely....be nice if we had another rookie pick.... :shh
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60. Port Adelaide - Jase Burgoyne .... (F/S)
61. W.Bulldogs - Luke Cleary
TRADE: Port has traded pick 62 to the Eagles for a future 4th.
62. West Coast - Greg Clarke
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Ned Long could miss out completely....be nice if we had another rookie pick.... :shh
We've still got another pick to go unless we pass and keep it for the supplementary draft.
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Speaking of which we've passed on our last pick.
63. Richmond - pass.
So that's it for us.
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Ned Long could miss out completely....be nice if we had another rookie pick.... :shh
We've still got another pick to go unless we pass and keep it for the supplementary draft.
Thought we only had 5 free list spots in total because we're committed to re-drafting Biggy in the rookie draft and we also put Cumberland back on the senior list after we traded out those picks to the Wobbles for pick 27? :huh
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Our bunker:
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FE8R0F8UcAc2RT8?format=jpg&name=large)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FE8R0FyVQAQfHzB?format=jpg&name=medium)
https://twitter.com/Richmond_FC/status/1463407995845431297
I can't see Hardwick. Is that right?
Fox Footy just said Dimma is overseas.
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63. Gold Coast - Charlie Constable
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Speaking of which we've passed on our last pick.
63. Richmond - pass.
So that's it for us.
I stand corrected. We're up again now.
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64. Richmond - pass.
Now we're finished.
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64. Geelong - Cooper Whyte
65. Melbourne - Taj Woewodin .... (F/S)
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That's all folks!
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Our bunker:
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FE8R0F8UcAc2RT8?format=jpg&name=large)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FE8R0FyVQAQfHzB?format=jpg&name=medium)
https://twitter.com/Richmond_FC/status/1463407995845431297
I can't see Hardwick. Is that right?
Fox Footy just said Dimma is overseas.
Yes he posted a pic from Harvard on Twitter over the weekend
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Not that it really means anything but this was from one of the more high profile/well respected draft watchers on BF:
(https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/attachments/1287355/)
:shh
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Hope they all go great guns and tear it up. North get to waste a top draft pick and GWS get to warm up another one for Collingwood to poach and waste later on
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AFL Draft 2021 Report Cards
Ben Waterworth
Fox Sports
November 26th, 2021
RICHMOND
Picks (at the start of draft): 7, 15, 26, 27, 28, 79
Selections: Josh Gibcus (9), Tom Brown (17), Tyler Sonsie (28), Sam Banks (29), Judson Clarke (30)
The Tigers nailed a terrific spread of player types with their juicy draft hand. They used their two first-round picks to address their defensive stocks, with Gibcus and Brown both strong intercept players. Although the Tigers could use Gibcus as a forward next year — a prospect some recruiters believe would work well. Sonsie could be anything. On talent alone, the midfielder was arguably a top-five talent in this year’s draft class, but slid due to a lack of continuity in a Covid-interrupted season. If it clicks for him at the Tigers though, he could be a genuine AFL star. Banks gives the Tigers great dash and versatility, while Clarke is a typical Tigers draftee: A small forward that can apply pressure and play a role. Although Clarke has ample tricks and an innate, mercurial goal nous. Big ticks for the Tigers.
Grade: A+
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Other clubs' grades
Fremantle A+
Melbourne A+
West Coast A+
Adelaide A
Carlton A
Collingwood A
Geelong A
Gold Coast A
GWS A
Hawthorn A
North Melb. A
Port Adelaide A
St Kilda A
W.Bulldogs A
Brisbane B
Essendon B-
Sydney C+
https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/draft/afl-draft-2021-report-card-grades-every-clubs-picks-draft-order-new-players-who-your-club-picked-in-order/news-story/a612962dc62915aab8da4a7ed48257ed
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THE VERDICT: Our say on your club's 2021 draft haul
Riley Beveridge
afl.com.au
27 November 2021
What the club says: "We're really excited. We filled some really good needs in our list, we thought, particularly early. We thought some good players would come through to the 20s, and we're rapt to get our boys. All our boys are talented, but tonight, Tyler Sonsie was one of the more talented boys in the draft. He's had some injury issues in the past 18 months that's probably just stunted his development, obviously COVID along with that, but we think Tyler has great upside. He's a Richmond fan, so he's pretty excited. It's great when you can bring together a group of boys of this number. Hopefully they can play together and come through as a wave, like we've had in the past with a few of our boys coming through the draft. If you can nail some picks in the same draft and they can play a lot of footy together, then that can take you a long way." – recruiting manager Matthew Clarke.
Verdict: The Tigers had five picks inside the top-30 and used them to strengthen all three lines across the field. They took 196cm intercept defender Josh Gibcus at pick No.9, a handy addition given the loss of David Astbury to retirement earlier this year. Tom Brown was the club's other first-round pick, a 186cm running defender who can also play an effective lockdown role on the opposition's best small forwards. Tyler Sonsie and Sam Banks will both add midfield depth, with each possessing quality and smarts with ball in hand. Judson Clarke was the club's final pick and will inject speed and x-factor into the side's forward line, something the Tigers have become renowned for during their golden era under Damien Hardwick. - Riley Beveridge
https://www.afl.com.au/news/689429/the-verdict-our-say-on-your-club-s-2021-draft-haul
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AFL Draft 2021 - Every club's draft haul rated
Chris Doerre
ESPN
26 November 2021
ESPN's AFL Draft expert Chris Doerre has run his eye over every club's draft haul and graded their performance with some club's setting themselves up well for the future, while other clubs missed the mark. See how your club fared at the 2021 AFL Draft.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FFFU7PrVUAMtTR5?format=jpg&name=large)
Each club's draft rating:
Fremantle A+
GWS A+
Adelaide A
Collingwood A
Hawthorn A
Sydney A
W.Bulldogs A
Carlton B+
Essendon B+
Geelong B
Gold Coast B
Melbourne B
North Melb. B
St Kilda B
Port Adelaide D+
Richmond D+
West Coast D+
Brisbane D
https://www.espn.com.au/afl/story/_/id/32715002/afl-draft-2021-every-club-draft-haul-rated
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Lol, this ‘expert’….. Tigers didn’t draft the way I wanted them to so it’s a D+.
Personally, I think we drafted some kids with serious potential. Now it’s on our coaching staff to help them realise their potential.
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We should hammer him now on Bigfooty. Biased Collingwood maggot he is.
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We should hammer him now on Bigfooty. Biased Collingwood maggot he is.
We tore him a new one CT from both PRE and Bigfooty. Horrible rating from Knightmare, one only needs to look at the ratings he gave other clubs to see there is some bias against Richmond.
No other reason to explain the clueless rating of our draft picks.
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To play devils advocate here Knightmare's rating would be correct if as he assumed that we were drafting to stay shore up our time in the premiership Window.
But if his assuming was incorrect and that we have begun drafting for our rebuild then the A plus is more appropriate.
Most of the players we have drafted this year will be AFL ready and strong in two to three years time. ready for our next tilt.
PS i still believe that we have one more crack in us with our current crop of senior players next season.
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(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FFUtvuDVgAg6X0U?format=jpg&name=900x900)
https://twitter.com/Richmond_FC/status/1465127558752583682
:gotigers
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Lets hope this lot are better than the forgetable fab5 or whatever they called themselves in the deledio draft. In the end it was the fab 1 and the rest werent up to it.
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Good luck boys, head down and work hard. Look forward to seeing them in 2022
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Talent guru Kevin Sheehan identifies some of the unlucky players who missed out
HeraldSun
29 November 2021
■ Angus Anderson (Sydney Swans academy, midfielder)
The big-bodied on-baller captained the Swans’ academy and impressed with his workrate in two NAB League games.
■ Jamieson Ballantyne (GWV Rebels, midfielder)
The dashing line-breaker shot up draft estimations after significant improvement this year.
■ Josh Browne (East Fremantle, midfielder)
Won the Jack Clarke Medal as best player in the WA colts competition.
■ Sam Breuer (GWV Rebels, defender/midfielder)
The son of ex-Geelong and Port Adelaide player Shayne Breuer stood out as an aggressive tackler and composed ball user.
■ Sam Collins (North Hobart, defender)
A damaging intercept backman who was hoping to be drafted as a 19-year-old.
■ Josh Cripps (East Fremantle, ruck/forward)
The brother of Carlton skipper Patrick Cripps was eligible last year but sustained an ACL injury then returned and dominated for a patch late this past season.
■ Kade Dittmar (East Perth, midfielder)
The tough on-baller was linked to several clubs, including Port Adelaide.
■ Youseph Dib (Oakleigh Charger, utility)
Collingwood – and all other clubs – overlooked the tough, quick member of the Magpies’ Next Generation Academy.
■ Sam Frost (GWS academy, defender)
Was best on ground in three Giants matches and was the Allies’ skipper in a Covid-affected game against SA in Adelaide.
■ Josh Green (GWS academy, midfielder)
A tall, on-ball utility who is the brother of Giants bull Tom Green.
■ Shay Linke (Central District, tall midfielder)
A 190cm on-baller who impressed in SA’s last state under-19 game and was injured in a boating accident a fortnight ago.
■ Charlie Molan (GWV Rebels, defender/midfielder)
A consistent, versatile player who performed strongly in a variety of roles to win the Rebels’ best-and-fairest.
■ Blayne O’Loughlin (North Adelaide, small defender)
The nephew of Swans great Michael O’Loughlin won the medal for SA’s best in the AFL grand final curtain-raiser and had a blistering start to the year at under-18 SANFL level.
■ Lewis Rayson (Glenelg, half-back)
A clever ball user and SA vice-captain who may have been hurt by the high number of running, wing/half-back types in this year’s pool.
■ Josh Rentsch (GWV Rebels, key forward)
Likened to Tom Hawkins, 198cm, 100kg Rentsch was one of few power forwards in the draft and tied for the Morrish Medal.
■ Toby Triffett (Brisbane Lions academy, midfielder)
Was invited to the national combine after a brilliant performance for Queensland against Tasmania and also showed form in nine VFL games.
https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/draft/afl-draft-2021-talent-guru-kevin-sheehan-identifies-some-of-the-unlucky-players-who-missed-out/news-story/5150d614023e4347a26a7b1737a8b2d8
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AFL draft power rankings
Charlie Keegan
theRoar.com.au
30 November 2021
1. Fremantle
2. North Melbourne
3. Richmond Tigers
New faces: Josh Gibcus (9), Tom Brown (17), Tyler Sonsie (28), Sam Banks (29), Judson Clarke (30).
Gibcus is the best key defender in the draft, and he will almost certainly debut in Round 1 next year given the dearth of key defensive players for the Tigers. This was a defensive draft for Richmond, as they selected Tom Brown and Sam Banks as running halfbacks. They’ve also brought in Tyler Sonsie, who was rated as a top-five selection early on this year, and Judson Clarke, who is an explosive medium forward with an outstanding highlights reel. The one aspect I would criticise of the Tigers is they have not replaced the lack of key forward depth they lost during the trade period.
4. GWS
5. W.Bulldogs
6. Melbourne
7. Hawthorn
8. Collingwood
9. St Kilda
10. Brisbane
11. Adelaide
12. Gold Coast
13. Geelong
14. Sydney
15. West Coast
16. Port Adelaide
17. Essendon
18. Carlton
https://www.theroar.com.au/2021/11/30/afl-draft-power-rankings/
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https://twitter.com/Richmond_FC/status/1465629405175160838
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When I saw those pics on Twitter last night my first reaction was WHY?
:facepalm
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At least it wasn't a bbq in Peggy's backyard.... :shh
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When I saw those pics on Twitter last night my first reaction was WHY?
:facepalm
Just stupidity.
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When I saw those pics on Twitter last night my first reaction was WHY?
:facepalm
The photos are a bit of fun and something different - all good.
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Yeah WGAF. It’s marketing.
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Its pretty bad marketing.
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Looks hope it ends up much better than it did for our 2014 draft haul in this pic :-\ (although Butler did play in our 2017 premiership).
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Here's the footage of our 5 new draftees at Richmond station:
Click below to watch:
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https://twitter.com/Richmond_FC/status/1465963126248157189
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THE AFL this week wrote to all clubs to advise of the arrangements for the Pre-Season Supplemental Selection Period (SSP) and the 2022 Mid-Season Rookie Draft (MSRD).
Clubs have been advised the SSP will take place from Monday January 10 to Wednesday March 9, 2022 while the Mid-Season Rookie Draft is currently scheduled for Wednesday June 1, 2022.
https://www.afl.com.au/news/690161/afl-confirms-rookie-rules-for-ssp-mid-season-draft
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Inside the draft: The tension, tactics and trades that didn't come off
Cal Twomey goes inside the hectic first round of the 2021 NAB AFL Draft, revealing whose phone ran hot and which clubs were desperate to trade up.
afl.com.au
2 December 2021
With Gibcus still on the board, some clubs sussed their options. The Giants offered pick 15 and a future first-round pick to Richmond for pick nine.
After Richmond selected key defender Josh Gibcus with pick No.9, pipping midfielder Ben Hobbs for the spot, the Tigers set out to try and nab both players.
THE TIGERS were on the hunt.
... the Tigers looked at ways to bring forward their second first-round pick ...
When Fremantle with the next choice also overlooked Hobbs, the Tigers got on the front foot. St Kilda was on the clock for its pick 11 when the Tigers rang with an offer of picks 17 and 28. The Saints weren't interested in sliding back that far.
A similar deal, involving those two selections plus a future second-round pick for pick 12 and a second-round selection, was put to West Coast. But the Eagles were already in discussions with Port Adelaide about a swap of pick 12 and 14, so knocked back the Tigers' bid to jump up the queue.
Richmond had one last shot at pairing up the Greater Western Victoria Rebels duo, offering pick 17 and 28 to Essendon for pick 13, before the Bombers pounced on Hobbs to bolster their midfield.
... the Tigers chose Brown [at pick 17] to add to their talented defensive group and as a partner to Gibcus in an exciting young backline. Eye-catching forward Kai Lohmann was also in the Tigers' mix.
The Tigers remained active, seeing if they could package picks in the 20s to nab Brisbane's final pick of the first round, but the Lions stuck with it and drafted Lohmann.
https://www.afl.com.au/news/689980/inside-the-draft-the-tension-tactics-and-trades-that-didn-t-come-off
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At least we tried. I remember the trade period where we got mcmahon from footscray and miller came out abd said he was exhausted lol. 1 trade mcmahon equalled exhaustion. No wonder we were stuffed as a club.
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Miller was trying to do everything on his own as manager and had a part time recruiter , he just couldn’t do it on his own. How do you research and monitor players around the country with a skeleton staff. Thank goodness we are financial and can afford staff these days.
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So Twomey presented no evidence that we were after Hobbs other than the fact that we were trying to trade up.
:huh :huh :huh
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Pretty sure Clarke has said as much since....if not since he did at least say before the draft that the first pick would likely be one out of Gibcus,Ward,Amiss & Hobbs... :shh
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Remember when Miller drafted Oakley-Nicholls at pick 8 because he had 'nice eyes'. Or is that just an urban myth!
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Lol, poor JON, should have been a rookie, Miller must have miss read the memo that said 1st pick in the rookie draft
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Lol, poor JON, should have been a rookie, Miller must have miss read the memo that said 1st pick in the rookie draft
Memo?? It was just Miller so no one to send or get memos from
Would have been post it notes
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Remember when Miller drafted Oakley-Nicholls at pick 8 because he had 'nice eyes'. Or is that just an urban myth!
Good bloke as he was mowing his mums lawn when they went to visit him in WA was the story I heard. I asked Blair Hartley at a supporters club event in 2014, it didnt go down that well.
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Remember when Miller drafted Oakley-Nicholls at pick 8 because he had 'nice eyes'. Or is that just an urban myth!
Good bloke as he was mowing his mums lawn when they went to visit him in WA was the story I heard. I asked Blair Hartley at a supporters club event in 2014, it didnt go down that well.
I asked Wallace about JON at preseason training after JON was drafted and Wallace said JON was 4 years away from playing seniors. Not the sort of thing you want to here about a top 10 pick :P. At the end of the day, it wasn't JON's fault that he was stupidly judged as a top 10 pick when he was at best really a rookie pick. His kicking technique alone was very suspect.
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Remember when Miller drafted Oakley-Nicholls at pick 8 because he had 'nice eyes'. Or is that just an urban myth!
Good bloke as he was mowing his mums lawn when they went to visit him in WA was the story I heard. I asked Blair Hartley at a supporters club event in 2014, it didnt go down that well.
What was Blair's problem? Not like he had anything to do with recruiting JON.
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Remember when Miller drafted Oakley-Nicholls at pick 8 because he had 'nice eyes'. Or is that just an urban myth!
LOL once a myth takes hold no matter how much fact comes out the myth remains.
Greg Miller did not get a whole lot right when it came to our drafts but fmd Oakley Nicholls was not his choice.He has openly said he wanted Travis Varcoe at that pick that was said straight after the draft.. It has also been acknowledged that fine eyes was given a full time job on the back of his work in the 2005 draft. go figure. I have bought the article up a few times and that is exactly what the club said when they made him full time head of recruiting at the start of 06.
Yes Jackson was only doing it part time for us in 05 so was Miller virtually, but FJ was the major player in that draft PART TIME OR NOT.
As inadequate as it was we also had another bloke from NM cannot remember his name and half a dozen people around the country giving regular input.As i said inadequate but the myth makes it sound like there was just Miller and Jackson.
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Connor McDonald plays for the Stingrays looks a likely type.
8. Connor MacDonald
As a goalkicking midfielder, McDonald has several weapons. A strong contested ball winner and tackler, McDonald is a high-volume ball winner and combines this with acceleration, a high work rate and good skills. When used forward of centre, MacDonald presents an aerial marking threat and hits the scoreboard, averaging one goal per game so far in the NAB League despite playing predominantly through the midfield.
https://www.espn.com.au/afl/story/_/id/31580058/afl-draft-2021-phantom-draft-power-rankings-june-nick-daicos-pulling-away-chasing-pack
Sounds great to me.
Maybe I should offer my services to the club :shh :rollin
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Interesting that in June last year, Sonsie was ranked the 3rd best player in the draft. Injury saw him drop into the mid 2nd round.
AFL draft central's Top 25 at this stage:
1. Jason Horne (mid)
2. Nick Daicos (F/S Coll)
3. Tyler Sonsie (mid)
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10. Josh Gibcus (tall defender)
https://afl.draftcentral.com.au/2021/06/01/draft-central-power-rankings-june-2021/
AFL Draft - June's Power Rankings:
1. Nick Daicos
2. Jason Horne
3. Tyler Sonsie
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19. Josh Gibcus
Full summaries of each draftee here: https://www.espn.com.au/afl/story/_/id/31580058/afl-draft-2021-phantom-draft-power-rankings-june-nick-daicos-pulling-away-chasing-pack