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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: one-eyed on November 25, 2021, 07:41:40 PM
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Welcome to Tigerland, Tyler :).
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Tyler Sonsie
POS: Midfielder
Ht 181cm, Wt 73kg, DOB 27/1/03
From Eastern Ranges/Vic Metro
Sonsie began the year as a potential top-five pick and although that's not where he will have his name called this week, the Eastern Ranges midfielder still has clubs keen on his talent. With some dancing feet and smarts in close, Sonsie is able to get the ball out in the midfield with some burst and also be a dangerous player inside 50, where his goal sense comes to the fore.
(https://resources.afl.com.au/photo-resources/2021/02/15/0513c4ad-82d4-47de-96b2-7990765ac68a/NABBU16VCVM19DTP641255320.JPG?width=708&height=1062)
https://www.afl.com.au/news/688361/cal-twomeys-2021-phantom-afl-draft-top-30-late-picks-club-whispers
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Highlights of Sonsie:
Click to watch:
(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/Vpy-QJMkCSg/maxresdefault.jpg) (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vpy-QJMkCSg)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vpy-QJMkCSg
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Tyler Sonsie profile
Height: 181cm
Weight: 77kg
D.O.B: 27-01-2003
Leagues: NAB League Boys (EASTERN RANGES)
POSITION: Balanced Midfielder
(https://cdn.central.rookieme.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/05/Tyler-Sonsie-2021-AFL-Academy.jpg)
SNAPSHOT: “A clean and damaging player possessing the best two-sided kick in the draft pool, Sonsie is a stoppage specialist with slick hands and smarts who can also go forward and kick goals.”
Tyler Sonsie is a balanced midfielder able to win clearances in close, but also hurt the opposition on the outside with his clean and crisp skills. Proving he could match it against senior players with a 24 disposal and two goal game in his only VFL outing for Box Hill, he may be one of a few Victorian prospects to debut at AFL level next year. Likened by recruiters to Richmond champion Trent Cotchin, such a comparison is evident in his stoppage work; able to win first possession with quick anticipation and clean hands to set up midfield thrusts, but also every chance to go forward and kick goals on his right and left boot.
STRENGTHS:
Scoreboard impact
Clean hands
Kicking
Clearances
Composure
Agility
IMPROVEMENTS:
Consistency
Gut running
Sonsie’s rise to prominence started in the first Victorian Under 16 trial game back in 2019, where he was the name on many scouts' lips after putting in a dominant performance through the midfield. He would carry that form into the championships proper, winning Vic Metro’s Most Valuable Player (MVP) award in an undefeated carnival. Sonsie averaged 23 disposals at those championships and finished with a bang, kicking 4.3 to showcase his ability to hurt the opposition inside attacking 50. Sonsie’s ability forward of centre has been a key aspect to his game, kicking an incredible goal at MARS Stadium playing NAB League in 2019, and his two-goal games this year included performances against Calder Cannons and Tasmania Devils, as well in his one outing for Box Hill in the VFL.
At stoppages, Sonsie is dynamic in reading taps with good timing and quick thinking, hitting the ball at pace and doing so cleanly. There aren’t many players as clean as Sonsie at stoppages as he never fumbles and with good agility, can escape congestion and find targets by hand or foot to set up plenty of drive from the contest. With clean hands and that mix of composure and agility, Sonsie often gets maximum value out of his clearances which he has done in plenty of games this year - most significantly during his 34 disposal outing against Calder Cannons in Round 2.
Sonsie is arguably the most dual-sided player in the draft, capable of kicking competently on either foot. Combined with his agility and composure, he often creates more options for himself when he can fake to either side. Sonsie’s two ripping goals against Calder Cannons both came off his opposite foot and if there is a player in recent memory that could execute the same goals - 2001 Brownlow Medalist Jason Akermanis. Sonsie could even get close to that level he, is going to be a special player.
Consistency has been an issue for Sonsie this year despite only going under 20 disposals once, suffering an injury in that game. The consistency, or lack thereof, is not shown from his disposal numbers, but more so his four-quarter impact and willingness to get involved with or without the ball. That could partly come down to his gut running, which plenty of the best midfielders in the game have who are on the smaller side like Sonsie at 181cm.
Players like Ben Hobbs, Nick Daicos and Josh Ward work very hard without the ball and have plenty of repeat sprints in their game, whereas Sonsie can coast from time to time. If he can develop that running capacity without the ball, he could not only lift his disposal numbers to match those players, but also lift his impact as he is arguably a more damaging player with ball in hand to those three prospects.
DRAFT RANGE: First Round
SUMMARY:
At his best, Tyler Sonsie is a top five talent who is able to win the ball at stoppages to great effect while also going forward to kick multiple goals. We have seen his best at Under 16 level and a in couple of games this year - including against Calder Cannons in Round 2, and while playing for Box Hill in his only VFL outing. It’s the down games that could have him going lower than his talent would suggest. If Sonsie can bring his best every week, improve his strength and find that next gear to get to more contests around the ground with an improved fitness base, he will become an elite midfielder in the AFL.
https://central.rookieme.com/afl/player/tyler-sonsie/
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This is what I consider a 'slider'. Kid was very highly touted prior to those injuries.
Glad we got him.
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Sonsie joins Richmond
Richmond has used its third selection (No. 28 overall) in the 2021 national draft to recruit Eastern Ranges midfielder Tyler Sonsie.
(https://resources.richmondfc.com.au/photo-resources/2021/11/25/9a0324b9-7190-4cda-8509-a8c91f6ab51b/257738968_693087908327826_823011434419440641_n.png?width=952&height=592)
Recruited from: Eastern Ranges/Vic Metro
Position: Midfielder
Height: 181cm
Weight: 73kg
DOB: 27/1/03
What the Richmond recruiters say about Sonsie...
Tyler is an exciting midfield/forward prospect from the Eastern Ranges. He was touted as a high-end pick after an eye-catching U16 Championships in 2019, where he averaged 23 disposals and two goals a game – including a scintillating four goals against Western Australia.
Unfortunately, injury robbed Tyler of the ability to showcase his extraordinary talent for much of the second half of the year. However, he did average 23 disposals and five clearances across five NAB league games.
Tyler also ran out once for Box Hill in the VFL this year and one could be forgiven for thinking he had been playing VFL all season, given Tyler finished his debut with 24 disposals and two goals.
At his best, there are few who match Tyler for skill or smarts.
His ability to read the play and use the ball with genuine class on both sides of the body make him an equally damaging player through the midfield and up forward.
Capable of some definite "wow" moments, he is sure to produce plenty for Richmond fans next season and beyond.
https://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/1033545/sonsie-joins-richmond
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Did very well
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Young bloke grew up a Tiger fan
Great pic of him in his Tiger jumper strumming his ukulele :clapping
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Young bloke grew up a Tiger fan
Great pic of him in his Tiger jumper strumming his ukulele :clapping
:thumbsup
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FFB7x2IVcAAY9xy?format=jpg&name=small)
https://twitter.com/Richmond_FC/status/1463805982438346753
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Looks like a future Richmond Premiership Player to me.
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Welcome to Tylerland (https://abs-0.twimg.com/emoji/v2/72x72/1f44b.png)
Click to watch:
(https://pbs.twimg.com/ext_tw_video_thumb/1463808896544346118/pu/img/p9PEX5uklebR-hUG?format=jpg&name=360x360) (https://twitter.com/Richmond_FC/status/1463808925766062082)
https://twitter.com/Richmond_FC/status/1463808925766062082
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Happy household (https://abs-0.twimg.com/emoji/v2/72x72/1f970.png)
Click to watch:
(https://pbs.twimg.com/ext_tw_video_thumb/1463806437105156098/pu/img/lXBfwDzXQDYAnx-n?format=jpg&name=240x240) (https://twitter.com/Richmond_FC/status/1463806480235122692)
https://twitter.com/Richmond_FC/status/1463806480235122692
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BF draft watcher Ed Pascoe (aka eDPS):
(http://oneeyed-richmond.com/images/draft/SonsieDraftReview.png)
https://twitter.com/EdPascoe_RMC/status/1463791757393416194
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Happy household (https://abs-0.twimg.com/emoji/v2/72x72/1f970.png)
Click to watch:
(https://pbs.twimg.com/ext_tw_video_thumb/1463806437105156098/pu/img/lXBfwDzXQDYAnx-n?format=jpg&name=240x240) (https://twitter.com/Richmond_FC/status/1463806480235122692)
https://twitter.com/Richmond_FC/status/1463806480235122692
This is onion to the eyes of anyone from a diehard club family!
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The message from Richmond last night was that Sonsie’s talent is A grade but he lost a bit of direction during Covid. Hawks were asked about overlooking him and spoke specifically about recruiting rock solid characters. He should thrive in Richmond’s program. Huge upside.
https://twitter.com/RalphyHeraldSun/status/1464069927938056193
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Richmond’s third pick (No. 28 overall), Tyler Sonsie, has received a glowing endorsement from Danny Ryan, the talent manager at his NAB League team Eastern Ranges.
Ryan provided an insightful analysis of the classy teenage midfielder in the lead-up to the draft.
“There’s been a lot of talk around him. He’s a pretty incredible talent coming through,” Ryan said.
“If he has a good pre-season, he could easily slot into Round 1, Round 2 next year at a club, if all things go well over summer.
“He uses the ball unbelievably. The way he sees the game open up, left and right foot, he’s really dangerous.
“In traffic, he’s very clean to be able to get the ball from the inside to the outside of the contest, and he’s got the ability to roll forward.
“At under-14s inter-league, he really stood out, and he’s been part of our program since he was about 15. He was a part of the under-16s carnival back then (2019) and he was ranked very highly in the nationals and has really captured the interest of AFL clubs since then.”
The past two years has tested Sonsie’s resilience, as with other draft hopefuls, because of the lack of game time due to the interruptions caused by the COVID-19 pandemic.
Sonsie also suffered a knee injury midway through the 2021 season that further restricted his on-field appearances.
Notwithstanding those setbacks, he remained steadfast in his quest for a place on an AFL club list.
“He got injured halfway through the year with bone-bruising on the knee. Once he was ready to return, COVID came and ended the season,” Ryan said.
“He’s probably only played five games of footy in two years.
“It’s been an incredibly frustrating period for Tyler, but he’s been working really hard. He’s in the gym doing a lot of strength and conditioning and trying to get himself in the best nick he can . . .
“If he had a clear run at it in the last two years, you’re probably looking at anywhere in the top 10 (for him to be selected in the draft).”
https://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/1034441/tiger-tyler-a-top-talent
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Hmm the more i see the more i like. Clearly needs to work on a few things but im not too worried about the so called lack of work and attitude.
I remember Buddy Franklin copping similar and look at how he worked out.
For me hes a mid and thank god we took at least one.
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Banks is being called a midfielder by many, I wonder what the club is nominating him as
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Looks like a winger half back to me.
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Sonsie or Banks?
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Sonsie will play mostly half forward and Banks mostly Wing and Half Back. Thats what they look like to me. Banks depending on development maybe a chance to go and play as as a general mid but playing some minutes in the middle but fir now i reckon hes a half back winger type.
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Just had another look at his highlights. Really like the look of him.
He seems to have class and poise.
Not too skinny either. I feel like he may be a chance for round 1.
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Sonsie’s display that May day for Box Hill was all the more meritorious due to the fact he was not 100 percent fit.
“He went into that game a little bit banged up. We weren’t sure if he was going to play,” Matt Clarke said.
“It just shows with those guys that, at whatever level they play, they can find the footy, and Tyler’s one of those.
“He was really impressive in that game.”
“That helps us. There was a bit of a need there at that point to assist some of the younger guys that are going to come through . . . “Dowy” (Thomson Dow), “Rossy” (Jack Ross), Riley (Collier-Dawkins) and those sorts of guys,” Clarke said.
“I think adding another one (midfielder) was really important for us.”
https://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/1036881/sonsie-s-seamless-vfl-transition-a-fine-sign-for-his-future
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For me we have a glaring deficiency up forward with Castagna and Aarts. I wonder if we continue to go with two possibly three small fwds could Sonsie and Clarke who have infinately better skills be the two small fwds we play.
We all know this is an area that just has to be addressed. We either play GENUINE small fwds or we play a couple of primarily mids who have played the role and we have a few of them. Myself im all for the latter and we play just the one designated small forward.
I could live with Sonsie high h/f and possibly even getting some midfield time with Edwards and Boltonstarting fwd .
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For me we have a glaring deficiency up forward with Castagna and Aarts. I wonder if we continue to go with two possibly three small fwds could Sonsie and Clarke who have infinately better skills be the two small fwds we play.
We all know this is an area that just has to be addressed. We either play GENUINE small fwds or we play a couple of primarily mids who have played the role and we have a few of them. Myself im all for the latter and we play just the one designated small forward.
I could live with Sonsie high h/f and possibly even getting some midfield time with Edwards and Boltonstarting fwd .
Recruit midfielders and use them to play the flanks and pockets
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Agree Claw
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Currently in the rehab group but will join full training after the Christmas/NY break (Jan 10). Great to hear :thumbsup.
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You can see the class.. A few snippets of #TylerSonsie in yesterday's interclub scratch match.
WATCH HERE: https://twitter.com/Tigers_of_Old/status/1495154709875011585
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Forgot to say in my training report that Sonsie's workrate from contest to contest to link up is fantastic. I'm trying to keep a lid on things as he's only played one intra-club game but it's getting harder and harder not to get excited about him.
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Forgot to say in my training report that Sonsie's workrate from contest to contest to link up is fantastic. I'm trying to keep a lid on things as he's only played one intra-club game but it's getting harder and harder not to get excited about him.
Mind you missed a chunk of the whole preseason to.
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Forgot to say in my training report that Sonsie's workrate from contest to contest to link up is fantastic. I'm trying to keep a lid on things as he's only played one intra-club game but it's getting harder and harder not to get excited about him.
Mind you missed a chunk of the whole preseason to.
True. He's only been training with the main group for about the past month.
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Talent there not out of place today.
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Dimma talking about Sonsie in the latest Talking Tigers episode:
"What I love about this kid is that he found it 27 times on the weekend. He has some work to do on his fitness but one thing you can't teach a player is how to win the ball. And he does that."
:thumbsup
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27…not bad!
Man it would be great if this kid could turn into a quality AFL mid.
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27…not bad!
Man it would be great if this kid could turn into a quality AFL mid.
Have we seen so much - genuine - hype on the draftees? Maybe for the 2004 group but that proved to be misplaced outside of Deledio. Yes I know Martin was hyped but for sheer number of new kids showing promise 2021 draft might be one of the best
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Was tipped to be a top 5 pick at one stage, gut runner who might fit the Lambert mould.
hoping for a steal
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Dimma talking about Sonsie in the latest Talking Tigers episode:
"What I love about this kid is that he found it 27 times on the weekend. He has some work to do on his fitness but one thing you can't teach a player is how to win the ball. And he does that."
:thumbsup
Mentioned he needs to improve fitness
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Needs to improve fitness but has missed all of pre season & only been matter a matter of weeks because of injury, once he gets some match fitness via VFL he'll be pushing for a debut soon enough
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Dimma talking about Sonsie in the latest Talking Tigers episode:
"What I love about this kid is that he found it 27 times on the weekend. He has some work to do on his fitness but one thing you can't teach a player is how to win the ball. And he does that."
:thumbsup
Are they already looking for reasons NOT TO PLAY HIM. Lacks fitness eh yet he still got it 27 times. Others have commented on his work rate to get to contest to contest.
Personally id play a slightly underdone Sonsie in front of hacks like Castagna and Aarts who offer absolutely nothing moving fwd.
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Richmond player Tyler Sonsie has been charged by the VFL's Match Review Panel following the VFL Tigers' Round 1 win last Sunday.
The Match Review Panel charged Sonsie for striking Southport player Max Pescud during the fourth quarter of the VFL Round 1 Match between Richmond and Southport on Sunday, 27 March at the Swinburne Centre.
Based on the available video evidence and medical report, the incident was assessed as Careless Conduct with Low Impact and High Contact. The incident was classified as a one (1) match sanction as a first office.
Sonsie has accepted a $500 fine (AFL Listed) and a reprimand with an early guilty plea.
https://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/1089570/sonsie-charged-by-vfl-match-review-panel
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Awesome.
Time for a debut then!
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Sonsie had 34 disposals, 10 clearances, 7 tackles, 5 inside 50s and a goal against Sandy.
https://www.richmondfc.com.au/video/1095128/vfl-r2-sonsie-accumulates-thirty-in-wet-conditions
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Should be his last game at that level
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All stats we have been smashed in, and the VFL side got reamed too.
Debut coming soon me thinks.
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Just chuck him in. We can’t do any worse and it’s time to look to the future !
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Get him in the team!
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All stats we have been smashed in, and the VFL side got reamed too.
Debut coming soon me thinks.
Be a disgrace if its not this week him and RC-D.
Rcd has been good in his nine games and game time in those areas as well.
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Tyler Sonsie is close to senior selection after a 34-disposal, seven tackle performance in the VFL loss.
“He looks like an AFL player to us," said Hardwick.
"He's got to work on his fitness and get that part of the equation up to speed, but he's done a power of work over the course of the time he's been with us.
“I can see him playing for us in the not-too-distant future, whether that’s this week we’re not too sure, but he’s certainly put his hand up.”
Source: zerohanger.com (https://www.zerohanger.com/key-tigers-to-return-hardwicks-sub-solution-117785/)
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Sonsie has to be fit to play before we run him out in the seniors. No rush the debut will come in the near future and he will play more seniors than seconds from then on.
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Sonsie replaces Cotchin when he’s ready to retire.
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Sonsie has to be fit to play before we run him out in the seniors. No rush the debut will come in the near future and he will play more seniors than seconds from then on.
Agree but we are all wanting him to get games.
Gracie, looking at this weeks team there really isn’t a spot for him.
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Is this kid not fit?
Going off his numbers it's hard to believe he's not, tho of course AFL us a higher level.
If you are rewarding good form then he should be in the mix if we play some kids.
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Is this kid not fit?
Going off his numbers it's hard to believe he's not, tho of course AFL us a higher level.
If you are rewarding good form then he should be in the mix if we play some kids.
Dimma said in his presser yesterday that his fitness wasn't quite ready for AFL ... something about interupted pre-season
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Who is fit? About 3 blokes based on our efforts this season.
One or two more games and then bring the boy in
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Sonsie has to be fit to play before we run him out in the seniors. No rush the debut will come in the near future and he will play more seniors than seconds from then on.
Agree but we are all wanting him to get games.
Gracie, looking at this weeks team there really isn’t a spot for him.
Parker...Castagna
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Is this kid not fit?
Going off his numbers it's hard to believe he's not, tho of course AFL us a higher level.
If you are rewarding good form then he should be in the mix if we play some kids.
Dimma said in his presser yesterday that his fitness wasn't quite ready for AFL ... something about interupted pre-season
Well you'd hope Prestia is 100% this week then.
Graham clearly wasn't R1. Grimes too given that he missed R2 due to the thumb issue he had in the pre-season. Dusty probably wasn't in the right head space either.
If he plays and ends up gassed half way through the 3rd I actually don't mind but if his game time is managed and he rests forward (good goal kicker I believe) I reckon he'd be OK.
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https://www.richmondfc.com.au/video/1171937/sonsie-to-debut
:thumbsup
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https://www.richmondfc.com.au/video/1171937/sonsie-to-debut
:thumbsup
Dimma: "Here's your jumper."
Sonsie: "Bulls***!"
:laugh:
A week late but hopefully a sign Dimma has finally moved past the likes of Aarts and Castagna.
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Glad for him. Hope he tears them a new one and makes JHF look crap
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Good luck to him. Really hopes he succeeds.
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Congrats and I hope he goes well
Also hope people give him time to find his feet
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Congrats and I hope he goes well
Also hope people give him time to find his feet
If he keeps Castagna out I will be happy just with that. :rollin
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Im not expecting him to star but if he can find the footy about 15 times and use it properly he would have done well imho.
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2017 version of Jack Graham hopefully.
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The Tigers will also play debutant Tyler Sonsie who was taken with pick 28 in last year’s draft.
He will debut with three-time premiership skipper and his boyhood idol Trent Cotchin, who is back from a cracked collarbone.
“People say he was a draft slider, he should have gone possibly a little bit higher than what he did,” said Jack Riewoldt of the 19-year-old midfielder.
“A midfielder, a Richmond fan growing up, and I only found this out the other day that his favourite player is Trent Cotchin.
“He’s very talented, a great kick on both sides of his feet and an exciting prospect.
“He gets his chance this week and I think Richmond fans will be very happy with what they see. It’s exciting to see him playing.”
Source: SEN. (https://www.sen.com.au/news/2022/07/14/how-a-cautionary-tale-can-be-used-as-a-point-in-time-for-the-tigers/)
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Let's talk about something positive to get my mind off driving to punt road and headbutting some of our 'senior' players.
This kid looks the goods. Great by foot. Very much belongs at this level.
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This is his level from this day forward :clapping
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Looks and moves like a jet. Good with ball in hand. Will only get better.
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Where will he end up playing? Another a little on the short side. HFF?
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Sonz showed more composure most of the time than most of his senior teammates. A good debut and he is one who can keep his head up after tonight's debacle.
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The only positive in an otherwise pathetic, embarrassing night
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Top performance tonight :clapping
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Sonsie's game:
19 disposals (11k, 8h, 5c, 13u, 84.2% eff.)
1 mark
1 tackle
4 clearances ( 1 centre clearance )
4 inside 50s
2 intercepts
379 metres gained
5 score involvements
1 goal assist
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Very clean, both feet. Me likey. Needs to play out the year, full stop.
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Such a shame we had to wait all year to rnd 18 before seeing him while some very ordinary players have and continue to get games.
Could have had 10 - 15 games into him by now and leading into finals if we manage to get there.
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Major work to do on his tank & strength, but very encouraging start by this bloke yesterday - that left peg is a joy.
Play him every game.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FX0jFjdUEAAIovm?format=jpg&name=large)
https://twitter.com/rfcswallace/status/1548432431077699590
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Banks and Brown next. Keep the kids coming.
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Sonsie gets his first
Tigers fans have every reason to be bullish about Tyler Sonsie’s future. Sonsie showcased why many of Richmond’s passionate supporter base had been clamouring for the youngster to be given an opportunity in the senior side for weeks on end by backing up his impressive debut with another solid showing - which included his first career goal at a crucial juncture of the contest.The 19-year-old showed class beyond his years, gathering the ball around 40m from home before taking only a couple of steps and snapping through the only goal of the third term.
Source: AFL website (https://www.afl.com.au/news/803278/all-tied-up-tigers-freo-arm-wrestle-ends-in-a-draw)
Sonsie's stats by the way:
11 disposals (6k, 5h, 6c, 6u, 63.6% eff.)
2 marks
1 tackle
3 clearances
1 inside 50
2 intercepts
158 metres gained
2 score involvements
1 goal
67% time on ground
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Thought he was dare I say it reasonable and that was in part to not enough gane time.
But there is so much upside :clapping
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That goal was a little Dustyish :shh
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Thought the time he was on he was good. WP is right he spend his fair share of time on the bench.So good to have a good ball user.
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Should have played twice as long as Edwards did. Same with Cumberland spent way to long on bench for someone who has been our best forward for a month.
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Sonz is going to be a special footballer once he gets another preseason or two in him.
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Sonz is going to be a special footballer once he gets another preseason or two in him.
Agree
We've got a beauty in this kid
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The extraction out of the center bounce and delivery inside 50 in the 1st 2nd or 3rd quarter (can't remember when--too much gin) was electric.
A-Grade!
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Got a lot of young Cotchin about him.
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Got a lot of young Cotchin about him.
Yeah it's that lateral step he does. Makes my hairs stand up!
This kid just needs a bigger tank. Will be ever better next year barring any 2nd year blues
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Silk
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Gunna say it again so good to have such a good decision maker and ball user coming thru.
Not sure why people talk about his tank so much it his size more than anything that is stopping him atm.Still another pretty steady game from the kid.
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Gunna say it again so good to have such a good decision maker and ball user coming thru.
Not sure why people talk about his tank so much it his size more than anything that is stopping him atm.Still another pretty steady game from the kid.
15 touches in the first half, 5 in the second.
Looked tired to me.
Needs a bigger tank like you'd expect of any first year mid.
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Gunna say it again so good to have such a good decision maker and ball user coming thru.
Not sure why people talk about his tank so much it his size more than anything that is stopping him atm.Still another pretty steady game from the kid.
15 touches in the first half, 5 in the second.
Looked tired to me.
Needs a bigger tank like you'd expect of any first year mid.
Yep, not sure how size is the concern when he can clearly rack it up at AFL level (15 to halftime)
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Sonz is fitting nicely into our senior team. So much poise and footy IQ for a first year player who has only played a few AFL games. May even be a sneaky chance for the rising star nomination this week with 20 possies.
20 disposals (12k, 8h, 8c, 11u, 60% eff.)
2 marks
1 tackle
1 clearance
3 inside 50s
4 intercepts
289 metres gained
9 score involvements
1 goal assist
83% time on ground
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Our next Cotch. Seems to have a lot of time with ball in hand
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Keeper
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Found a midfielder.
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Gunna say it again so good to have such a good decision maker and ball user coming thru.
Not sure why people talk about his tank so much it his size more than anything that is stopping him atm.Still another pretty steady game from the kid.
15 touches in the first half, 5 in the second.
Looked tired to me.
Needs a bigger tank like you'd expect of any first year mid.
Yep, not sure how size is the concern when he can clearly rack it up at AFL level (15 to halftime)
The lack of strength and size is stopping him atm but hey you keep the glasses on .
Not criticising him in fact have been screaming for him to be played all year just stating an area that just about all first year players need to work on.
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Gunna say it again so good to have such a good decision maker and ball user coming thru.
Not sure why people talk about his tank so much it his size more than anything that is stopping him atm.Still another pretty steady game from the kid.
15 touches in the first half, 5 in the second.
Looked tired to me.
Needs a bigger tank like you'd expect of any first year mid.
Yep, not sure how size is the concern when he can clearly rack it up at AFL level (15 to halftime)
The lack of strength and size is stopping him atm but hey you keep the glasses on .
Not criticising him in fact have been screaming for him to be played all year just stating an area that just about all first year players need to work on.
Yes, all of our mids lack the body & the tank to dominate, but what do people expect of first year players? They aren't going to be instant strong-men performing Herculean feats of strength! These are 19yo kids playing against men, of course they aren't up to it yet! Cotchin's first 3 years were similarly weak & intimidated, now he is a bulldozer & has been for years now. Dusty was a rare gem who had a body from the beginning, not too many 19yo players are like him.
The new boys are doing pretty well in their first year(s), fast forward to a midfield with the speed & evasiveness of Bolton with the freakish skilled tackling machine MRJ by his side, throw in the pure silk of a Sonsie with the running power of Banks, the goal sense of Clarke & the gut running of Banks & Brown!
It may not all turn out so perfectly but the building blocks are there now. We need to develop these guys to become the players we want them to be & stop expecting them to be pop up stars right now.
Claw, you do this to every kid we draft, how about letting them develop & grow before expecting them to dominate the AFL? Does it make you feel big to put players down?
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Cotchin was never weak of intimidated lol
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Cotchin was never weak of intimidated lol
Ok, ‘weak’ might be a bad choice of words. But in Cotchin’s first 3 years he spent more time in the medical room than on the field. He had major body issues to overcome - surgery on both hips, repeat hamstrings & achilles issues in those first three years. There was never a doubt about his ability or willingness but he had doubts about his own body for a time there.
See how it worked out for us? That’s why we have to give young players a few chances ….
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Cotchin was never weak of intimidated lol
Ok, ‘weak’ might be a bad choice of words. But in Cotchin’s first 3 years he spent more time in the medical room than on the field. He had major body issues to overcome - surgery on both hips, repeat hamstrings & achilles issues in those first three years. There was never a doubt about his ability or willingness but he had doubts about his own body for a time there.
See how it worked out for us? That’s why we have to give young players a few chances ….
Are you precious or something you make sound like he is being criticised. Basically all i have said is he lacks strength and size and that more than anything is what is holding him back atm. I bought this up as a reason for why he is a bit in and out of games rather than his motor which is what is consistently bought up. Sure as a first year player his motor will improve also but atm he is batting out of his league in the physically ready stakes. Why do people get so blinkered when common sense is all thats required.
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Both his motor and his strength/size will naturally improve with more preseasons. Both non issues - nothing to get worked up about fellas.
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Cotchin was never weak of intimidated lol
Ok, ‘weak’ might be a bad choice of words. But in Cotchin’s first 3 years he spent more time in the medical room than on the field. He had major body issues to overcome - surgery on both hips, repeat hamstrings & achilles issues in those first three years. There was never a doubt about his ability or willingness but he had doubts about his own body for a time there.
See how it worked out for us? That’s why we have to give young players a few chances ….
Ah ok. Yes I remember the Achilles issues. Forgot about hip surgery.
Same with Grimes. He did so many hammies early I swore he was doomed to be a 35 game player then retire.
Sonsie is doing well anyway. Years will give him size and tank and he'll be great.
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Given he's wanted to see improvement in his defensive game, Dimma will be very happy with Tyler Sonsie having 22 pressure acts..(our 4th best behind Prestia, Rioli & KMac) on the weekend. Development. (https://abs-0.twimg.com/emoji/v2/72x72/2705.png) (https://abs-0.twimg.com/emoji/v2/72x72/1f44d.png)
https://twitter.com/Tigers_of_Old/status/1556451645923348480
Ran 15.2km as well, third most of any tiger and 5th on the ground.
Also 9 score involvements, second most on the ground. Having an impact!
https://twitter.com/merrrnique/status/1556455476594110466
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I have serious hopes Tyler becomes our next A grade midfielder
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I think he will, was rated top 5 at one stage before losing favour
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I think he will, was rated top 5 at one stage before losing favour
Injury iirc
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Missed out on the rising star nomination. Elijah Hollands got it this week with 23 disposals and two goals.
https://www.afl.com.au/news/816964/electric-elijah-suns-star-collects-rising-star-nomination
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Given he's wanted to see improvement in his defensive game, Dimma will be very happy with Tyler Sonsie having 22 pressure acts..(our 4th best behind Prestia, Rioli & KMac) on the weekend. Development. (https://abs-0.twimg.com/emoji/v2/72x72/2705.png) (https://abs-0.twimg.com/emoji/v2/72x72/1f44d.png)
https://twitter.com/Tigers_of_Old/status/1556451645923348480
Ran 15.2km as well, third most of any tiger and 5th on the ground.
Also 9 score involvements, second most on the ground. Having an impact!
https://twitter.com/merrrnique/status/1556455476594110466
Lol pressure acts can we have a break down of these all important pressure acts. You know the best pressure act of all is being capable of actually stopping a player with a tackle how many of those did he have.
Again not a go at Sonsie i love the kid but a go at stupid dumb spurios stats that are then used ad nauseum to convince people of what ever.
From what i can gather from both Afl games and VFL games he was getting picked because of defensive pressure.
I can see little difference from his Afl out put in this from his vfl output.
The kid has certain attributes that we just refused to acknowledge and thus refused to play him a lot earlier than we did.We looked for reasons not to play him when we had and still have far too many horrible kicks and decision makers.
This undersized skinny kid with no motor apparently has made em look silly.
But hey we get it we just cannot drop those underperformers who have played in premierships after all they are guaranteed a place forever.
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Claw it's worth noting that our entire dynasty was pretty much based on pressure acts haha
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There would have been no dynasty if people like Claw were in charge.
Thankfully, self-absorbed Richmond-haters with false list management expertise were not running the show. :pray
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Two year extension signed!
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“Tyler came to us after only playing seven games in the past two years due to Covid,” Hartley said.
“He had a slower start with pre-season but has worked hard on his game in VFL and now we are starting to see the rewards at AFL level.
“It is a credit to Tyler and his approach how far he has come.”
https://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/1194596/emerging-trio-sign-richmond-extensions
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Claw it's worth noting that our entire dynasty was pretty much based on pressure acts haha
mic drop! :clapping
should’ve included one of these :shh
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Kid looks the goods :cheers
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He is verrry classy this kid geez
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Cornes praising Sonsie's workrate on Footy Classified last night.
Go to 1:10 min mark: https://twitter.com/FootyonNine/status/1559157541690540034
"Do like Sonsie ... Defensive pressure there [in the centre] from a high half-forward, Richmond turn it over [our way at half-back] and this is a player who is just a footballer. He knows what he is doing. The workrate then to provide an option out on the wing. That's how you play the high half-forward role. I like him as a player. He's a ripper!" - Cornes.
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Will be great as the Edwards replacement.
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There would have been no dynasty if people like Claw were in charge.
Thankfully, self-absorbed Richmond-haters with false list management expertise were not running the show. :pray
Now thats a pretty cheap and nasty shot at a poster and deserves a like reply.
Personally i think dumb stupid totally unthinking posters like you are nuff nuffs but never say it until poked.
Having been unjustly imo vilified On this occasion i think its warranted, you know a bit poo thrown a bit of poo back in ya face. So don't whine like a girl to the mods.
Rather than making up stories i challenge you to debate anything i post, have always been happy to do so. It will never happen with you though, imo a gutless blinkered poster who cries at any hint of criticism who sits back and takes cheap shots never prepared to have an opinion or put anything on the line.
You don't like what i post but have no come back to counter what i say so instead attack the poster. Yep a real nuff nuff.
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There would have been no dynasty if people like Claw were in charge.
Thankfully, self-absorbed Richmond-haters with false list management expertise were not running the show. :pray
Rather than making up stories i challenge you to debate anything i post, have always been happy to do so.
Now I don’t want it to seem like I’m stalking you, it just so happens you were the last 2 posts I read. But FMD that’s a right laugh there. Not sure what’s funnier, you saying you’re happy to debate or you accusing others of making up stories :lol
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There would have been no dynasty if people like Claw were in charge.
Thankfully, self-absorbed Richmond-haters with false list management expertise were not running the show. :pray
Now thats a pretty cheap and nasty shot at a poster and deserves a like reply.
Personally i think dumb stupid totally unthinking posters like you are nuff nuffs but never say it until poked.
Having been unjustly imo vilified On this occasion i think its warranted, you know a bit poo thrown a bit of poo back in ya face. So don't whine like a girl to the mods.
Rather than making up stories i challenge you to debate anything i post, have always been happy to do so. It will never happen with you though, imo a gutless blinkered poster who cries at any hint of criticism who sits back and takes cheap shots never prepared to have an opinion or put anything on the line.
You don't like what i post but have no come back to counter what i say so instead attack the poster. Yep a real nuff nuff.
:lol
I have no issue with you calling me stupid or a nuff nuff. It's funny to me. Fill your boots mate!
Also, I have challenged your theories many times over the years, but it's a pointless exercise because you have no balance whatsoever in your views, no willingness to understand other peoples perspectives and no willingness to admit when you're wrong (which you are most of the time).
Anyway, let's be real, you barely go to games, you constantly bag our players and fans, you refer to our most successful coach ever as "Dimwit" and you show absolutely no sign of genuine affection for this cub at all.
The only thing you seen to care about is your self-inflated image as some sort of maverick list management guru.
So yes, you are the one poster on this site that I do question as a legitimate fan.
Nevertheless, I enjoy having you on here because your predicable, self-important rants are quite comical. :cheers
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Getting a bit personal in here - can everyone cool it a bit please?
Ta
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Getting a bit personal in here - can everyone cool it a bit please?
Ta
Disagree lol
Fire up boys ..
Willy just hit the nail on the head
Awaiting the return rant :lol :lol :lol
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Needs to build up his tank as he fades out of games
Looks the goods though
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Agree, but normal for kids without a couple of pre seasons
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The tank and fitness will come he doesn't waste a positions all class.
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Hmm, in French his surname would be 'Sonsi', yes?
Sans 'e'...
:snidegrin
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Jet
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Hisx2nd half was very good
His first half was OK because on a few occasions he failed to attack contests especially marking contests
Now before people start potting me, this is the very same thing a number of posters have been critical of Ross and Dow for.
Kid is going to be a special player for us but there are as expected a few things that need work
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Sonsie's stats last night:
19 disposals (11k, 8h, 6c, 13u, 63.2% eff.)
4 marks
1 tackle
1 inside 50
0 clearances
4 intercepts
234 metres gained
14 score involvements
1 goal assist
1 goal
3 behinds
81% time on ground
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Will be a great goalkicking mid
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Can Sonsie win Riding Star next year?
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Can Sonsie win Riding Star next year?
Yup unless he’s nominated this week maybe but not sure on that.
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Sonsie is averaging 17.7 disposals, 7.0 score involvements, 3.0 intercepts and 263.5 metres gained per game. Among AFL Rising Star prospects, he is ranked No. 1 for score involvements per game.
“Sonsie is a hell of a player. He’s a natural footballer, and as soon as he got in the doors, I knew that. And his work ethic is unreal,” Jack Ross said.
“It wasn’t really that much to ask for me to go and help him,” he said.
“I feel like I’m learning a lot from him and we kind of feed off each other.
“We’ve got a good little kind of bromance at the minute.
“He’s playing really good footy, so I’m proud of him.”
https://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/1206585/tigerland-s-budding-bromance
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Need to nip that in the bud
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Need to nip that in the bud
:lol :lol
Exactly what I thought
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Thoughts on Sonsie's first final?
17 disposals (9k, 8h, 7c, 8u, 47.1% eff.)
2 marks
4 tackles
4 clearances (1 centre clearance)
2 inside 50s
2 intercepts
348 metres gained
5 score involvements
1 goal
73% time on ground
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He was better than his DE suggests.
Both his marks were very nice. Quite good over head
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I'm surprised by that DE %, very surprised
I thought he along with MRJ was the best of the Cubs
Another one that dog Robinson limed up to take out
Great goal
We have a gem in this kid
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Yeah I thought he did ok
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Imo as a fwd/mid he is a more skilled more damaging upgrade on Lambert. Of course he has a long way to go and a lot of improvement to do.
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He has good skill but not the gut running (yet) and leadership (yet)that made lambert so valuable to the team. When Lambert took off in a surge through the middle he was never lonely which exemplifies the point
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40. Tyler Sonsie
Played with footy nous and maturity beyond his years in the first half, but finished with the worst kicking efficiency on the field. Started across half-forward and had seven disposals in the first term and 15 by half-time. Kicked a goal in the second term but it was one of just two touches for the second half. Still, a terrific effort from the 19-year-old.
Foxsports rating: 6
https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/teams/richmond-tigers/afl-finals-2022-richmond-tigers-vs-brisbane-lions-second-elimination-final-highlights-stats-best-and-worst-players/news-story/7fc45960b9d79ca09461c1ff3de0ff76
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Richmond’s national recruiting manager Matthew Clarke has admitted being surprised with the rapid rate of development by talented young Tiger midfielder Tyler Sonsie in his debut season of AFL football this year.
Sonsie played the last seven games of the 2022 season at senior level and impressed with his silky, dual-sided skills and composure.
The 19-year-old averaged 17.6 disposals, 6.6 contested possessions, 2.6 marks, 2.3 clearances, 2.4 inside-50s, 2.9 intercepts, 6.7 score involvements and 275.6 metres gained per match.
“It’s a credit to Tyler, for the kid to grasp the professionalism of the game and to be able to apply that to his training and his diet,” Clarke said on the final episode for the year of the Club’s podcast Talking Tigers.
“He struck up a really good rapport with (teammate) Jack Ross, who’s a really good preparer.
“So, “Sonz” has come a long way . . . quicker than I thought. I thought it might take him a little bit longer to do that.
“The footy IQ, the ability to find the ball, no matter what position he played, he’s always had that.
“To get himself up to speed really quickly was really pleasing and it’s given us a real bonus with him, going into the pre-season.”
Clarke believes the addition of star midfield duo Jacob Hopper and Tim Taranto to Richmond’s playing group will be beneficial for Sonsie’s game.
“I think because he’s a natural read ball off hands and first receive sort of midfielder, you could imagine a player like “Hops” winning some contested ball, and Tim as well,” Clarke said.
“To be able to use Sonz and Dion (Prestia) and those sorts of guys through that part of the game should be really exciting.”
https://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/1241895/sonsie-steps-up-in-style
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THE RISING STAR CONTENDERS AND SMOKEYS WHO COULD TOPPLE RAGING FAVOURITE
Andrew Slevison
SEN
March 2, 2023
Tyler Sonsie (Richmond) - $51
Tyler Sonsie is one of a few second-year players who could threaten for the Ron Evans Medal in 2023.
The 28th pick from the 2021 draft played seven games for the Tigers in 2022 and appeared comfortable at the elite level, averaging close to 18 disposals along with two inside 50s and two clearances.
He is clever with the ball when in possession and chimes in defensively as a high half-forward who can roll through the midfield.
Sonsie has been nursing a hip injury in recent weeks but is expected to get his season up and running with some minutes against Melbourne this Saturday.
If his performances last season are anything to go by, he has a bright future at Richmond.
https://www.sen.com.au/news/2023/02/28/the-rising-star-contenders-and-smokeys-who-could-topple-raging-favourite/
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Leading contenders for the 2023 AFL Rising Star
New players
Will Ashcroft (Brisbane), Harry Sheezel (North Melbourne), Cam Mackenzie (Hawthorn), Reuben Ginbey (West Coast), Mattaes Phillipou (St Kilda), Bailey Humphrey (Gold Coast), Aaron Cadman (GWS), Elijah Hewett (West Coast), Ollie Hollands (Carlton), Jhye Clark (Geelong)
On a list in 2022
Finn Callaghan (GWS), Sam Darcy (Western Bulldogs), Elijah Hollands (Gold Coast), Jai Culley (West Coast), Jye Amiss (Fremantle), Mitch Owens (St Kilda), Neil Erasmus (Fremantle), Campbell Chesser (West Coast), Jacob Van Rooyen (Melbourne), Luke Pedlar (Adelaide), Tyler Sonsie (Richmond)
https://www.afl.com.au/news/881053/the-21-leading-contenders-for-this-year-s-rising-star-award
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Cannot believe people are not demanding we play him. Most are just following the club line of Cotchin or Dusty fwd but give me a choice between Cotchin and Sonsie as a forward and it is Sonsie every day of the week. Give me a choice between Cotchin and Sonsie delivering the ball then its sonsie every time.
My fear is we are so stuck on older players and we are doing at the expense of youngsters.
Taranto and Hopper by themselves are no panacea to winning a flag. Regenerating the list and team to a degree is.
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Sonsie would be in my team ahead of several.
He's one guy that should be squeezed out due to Taranto + Hopper. Would be happy for Graham or Ross to miss out on the other hand.
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Sonsie would be in my team ahead of several.
He's one guy that should be squeezed out due to Taranto + Hopper. Would be happy for Graham or Ross to miss out on the other hand.
Cmon Andy you lot rave on about the Lambert role but i can tell ya neither Taranto or Hopper are there to do that role.
Sonsie is absolutely ideal for it and further to that you want him being looked for all the time because he is so how to say it skilled.
Take another look Andy its not Taranto or Hopper coming to the club keeping Sonsie out of the team.
Its the absurd notion that we need to find new roles for older players to keep getting games. That imo is down to a coach who has become too close to his older players and can no longer be objective.
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Sonsie hasn’t competed in any match simulation the entire preseason from what I can remember. As good as I think this kid is I’d hardly expect him to be named round 1 without participating in any match sim or practice matches.
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Sonsie hasn’t competed in any match simulation the entire preseason from what I can remember. As good as I think this kid is I’d hardly expect him to be named round 1 without participating in any match sim or practice matches.
If he is fit then just play him.
Play him every game if possible. Same for Gibcus and If the Likes of Brown Banks and Clarke show enough make them the priority.
In anyones language Miller and Ryan SHOULD BE PRIORITIES.
Iwill keep saying it just because Taranto and Hopper fix inside and big bodied mid issues it does not mean we just ignore what needs to happen in other areas.Those two alone will not win us a flag but thrre or four kids with them will give us every chance.
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Lot of ifs in there.
Sonsie hasn’t done any match sim. He’s a second year player. I think they’re pretty well justified not throwing him straight into the cauldron in round 1.
Gibcus is injured. Suspect that’ll keep him out until around the bye rounds and even then will have to win his spot over Tarrant, Balta, Broad and Grimes.
Clarke impressed in the preseason and seems likely to be rewarded with a place in round 1.
Brown is injured and banks hasn’t come close to winning a spot in the seniors yet.
As for Miller and Ryan. Agree 1 needs to be playing the second ruck/resting fwd role. You’ve got to accept that you are in a very small minority that thinks we should be playing all of Lynch, Jack, Nank, Miller and Ryan. You’ve been presenting this opinion like it’s the general consensus but I really haven’t seen many if any agree. That is one tall too many imo. 3 permanent tall forwards + the resting ruck makes us even more pedestrian down there then we showed we were in the preseason. Can already imagine teams rebounding out of there with ease. Jury is out on jack having another season in him, but tbh if he wasn’t going around again I would be inclined to trial Lynch and Dusty as the CHF/FF partnership and instead have another small or mid in as jacks replacement. Say what you will about Dusty’s form over the last couple of seasons, it would take a brave brave defender to leave him to go and double team Lynch. That is Ofcourse unless a tall on our list shows that they are better placed in that role which you may be right in that we won’t really know this unless we trial them at afl level.
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Sonsie would be in my team ahead of several.
He's one guy that should be squeezed out due to Taranto + Hopper. Would be happy for Graham or Ross to miss out on the other hand.
Cmon Andy you lot rave on about the Lambert role but i can tell ya neither Taranto or Hopper are there to do that role.
Sonsie is absolutely ideal for it and further to that you want him being looked for all the time because he is so how to say it skilled.
Take another look Andy its not Taranto or Hopper coming to the club keeping Sonsie out of the team.
Its the absurd notion that we need to find new roles for older players to keep getting games. That imo is down to a coach who has become too close to his older players and can no longer be objective.
I made a typo.
Meant to say SHOULDN'T be squeezed out haha.
Makes sense if you read the rest of my post.
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Sonsie just needs to bide his time. Cotchin will get to 300 games and then that will be it for him.
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Sonsie just needs to bide his time. Cotchin will get to 300 games and then that will be it for him.
Personally I am over this 300 game milestone and babying players to get to it, Di you really think Cotchin cares about it even if to the detriment of the team??
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Sonsie just needs to bide his time. Cotchin will get to 300 games and then that will be it for him.
And it might take the whole season to get there.
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Sonsie just needs to bide his time. Cotchin will get to 300 games and then that will be it for him.
Personally I am over this 300 game milestone and babying players to get to it, Di you really think Cotchin cares about it even if to the detriment of the team??
Unlikely he cares about it and tbf no one from the club has mentioned it to my knowledge. It's just something that's gone around on here and grown legs from there, but I haven't heard of it being a motivator outside of the site.
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It's pretty insulting really.
Cotch was great for most of last year and deserved to go on if he wanted to, which he did in the end. If he isn't good enough to be in the 22 he shouldn't be picked, if he is (and I think he still is) then he'll play. 300 games was never on anyones radar until some clown on here brought it up
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Sonsie just needs to bide his time. Cotchin will get to 300 games and then that will be it for him.
Whatever happened to picking the best player for the role or in this case best players because when it comes to forwards there are plenty in front of cotchin.
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What’s wrong with bringing up that cotch is closing in on game 300.
Becoming only the what 6th player in Richmond history to hit 300 games + a 3 time premiership captain will be an amazing accomplishment and I personally would love to be there live to see it.
Has anyone actually said he should be carried to game 300? The way I see it he more then earned another year contract last season and decided to play on for one last crack at a premiership. Now the cliff can come very quickly as we saw with edwards last season but I’m not prepared to write him off based on a couple of meaningless preseason practice matches.
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Agree with everything you just said. There’s just been a few comments from others that indicate we’ll get him to 300 and that’s all she wrote. It’s just unfounded
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Cotchin was excellent in 2022.
Playing on purely from merit, milestone or not.
There's space in the side for Sonsie if the club wants to play him. I want them to play him but suspect the club will give him a few VFL games before calling him up, maybe aim for 12-15+ games this year.
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I'm expecting to see Sonsie back into the team about round 4. That would give him the time to regain his fitness and form at VFL level and for the club to begin rotating some of our players such as Graham and Short for Sonsie and Ross. Dow will also be given a run.
With our depth, I would imagine that we rotate plenty of players this year, especially our older brigade. Sonsie will be the beneficiary of this and, if he steps up when that opportunity arises, he won't leave the team from that point on. It's really up to Graham, Mansell and Short to keep their spots now through exceptional play. I can't see it happening.
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What’s wrong with bringing up that cotch is closing in on game 300.
Becoming only the what 6th player in Richmond history to hit 300 games + a 3 time premiership captain will be an amazing accomplishment and I personally would love to be there live to see it.
Has anyone actually said he should be carried to game 300? The way I see it he more then earned another year contract last season and decided to play on for one last crack at a premiership. Now the cliff can come very quickly as we saw with edwards last season but I’m not prepared to write him off based on a couple of meaningless preseason practice matches.
300 games or 500 games who gives a poo? He only plays if he warrants his spot. Atm he warrants his spot as a mid and only as a mid. iI we play him as a fwd then no HE SHOULD NOT GET A GAME. Just play the best option. It aint hard to work out it really isnt.
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What’s wrong with bringing up that cotch is closing in on game 300.
Becoming only the what 6th player in Richmond history to hit 300 games + a 3 time premiership captain will be an amazing accomplishment and I personally would love to be there live to see it.
Has anyone actually said he should be carried to game 300? The way I see it he more then earned another year contract last season and decided to play on for one last crack at a premiership. Now the cliff can come very quickly as we saw with edwards last season but I’m not prepared to write him off based on a couple of meaningless preseason practice matches.
300 games or 500 games who gives a poo? He only plays if he warrants his spot. Atm he warrants his spot as a mid and only as a mid. iI we play him as a fwd then no HE SHOULD NOT GET A GAME. Just play the best option. It aint hard to work out it really isnt.
Cotchin plays 300th no questions asked. If we carried Edwards we carry Cotchin 1000%
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Probably time to move the Cotch chat out.
Anyone know how Sonsie went in the VFL?
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Probably time to move the Cotch chat out.
Anyone know how Sonsie went in the VFL?
Yeah any reports on the vfl game other than the one on the rfc website? Not much details for each player provided on that. Not just sonsie but Cumberland, clarke, Hugo, Ryan…
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Lot of ifs in there.
Sonsie hasn’t done any match sim. He’s a second year player. I think they’re pretty well justified not throwing him straight into the cauldron in round 1.
Gibcus is injured. Suspect that’ll keep him out until around the bye rounds and even then will have to win his spot over Tarrant, Balta, Broad and Grimes.
Clarke impressed in the preseason and seems likely to be rewarded with a place in round 1.
Brown is injured and banks hasn’t come close to winning a spot in the seniors yet.
As for Miller and Ryan. Agree 1 needs to be playing the second ruck/resting fwd role. You’ve got to accept that you are in a very small minority that thinks we should be playing all of Lynch, Jack, Nank, Miller and Ryan. You’ve been presenting this opinion like it’s the general consensus but I really haven’t seen many if any agree. That is one tall too many imo. 3 permanent tall forwards + the resting ruck makes us even more pedestrian down there then we showed we were in the preseason. Can already imagine teams rebounding out of there with ease. Jury is out on jack having another season in him, but tbh if he wasn’t going around again I would be inclined to trial Lynch and Dusty as the CHF/FF partnership and instead have another small or mid in as jacks replacement. Say what you will about Dusty’s form over the last couple of seasons, it would take a brave brave defender to leave him to go and double team Lynch. That is Of course unless a tall on our list shows that they are better placed in that role which you may be right in that we won’t really know this unless we trial them at afl level.
I think this is meant for me. Where have i asked for Miller and Ryan to be played other than in the context of Tarrant being injured and Miller plays F/B and Ryan plays as the second ruck/fwd. Are you deliberately being disingenuous.
Would like to see how many teams i have put up with all four in the fwd half
Reckon i have consistently put up this or damn close to it.
Rioli/Clarke - Riewoldt - Ryan/Miller that means one of. ::)
Cumberland - Lynch - Bolton.
When Tarrant is back then one of Miller or Ryan plays second ruck third tall fwd and one will have to miss out. I think that is pretty much a consensus around here and a line i have pushed pretty hard. Any one who thinks we don't need to get games into another tall up fwd is wrong imo.
Have toyed with the idea of finding a way to play both Miller and Ryan that would mean one as a permanent fwd and one as a ruckman
Coming from the bench with Nankervis. But mainly its been one or the other playing and i think a permanent tall fwd would be the best option of all hence why i was so pleased we took Bradtke and why i think Balta should be persevered as a fwd when Gibcus and Tarrant are fit.
There is nothing to stop us playing JR TL and one of SR, or BM as a ruck/fwd kpf or third tall, nothing.
Sheesh we play Jack Tom and Dusty and Dusty is not renowned for his defensive efforts or running.
Dusty has been injured and had serious family issues because of them his form has been lousy.
He is now in his 30's done every thing that can be done in footy nothing wrong in asking if he has the hunger and if father time has not caught up to him a bit.
My opinion on Dusty has been and remains he is a mid who should be played primarily as a mid with some short stints thru the fwd half probably alternating with one of Ryan or Miller if we play one of them. I have been firmly against the Cotchin move fwd it just denies kids like Cumberland Clarke and even Sonsie the opportunity to play.
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Lot of ifs in there.
Sonsie hasn’t done any match sim. He’s a second year player. I think they’re pretty well justified not throwing him straight into the cauldron in round 1.
Gibcus is injured. Suspect that’ll keep him out until around the bye rounds and even then will have to win his spot over Tarrant, Balta, Broad and Grimes.
Clarke impressed in the preseason and seems likely to be rewarded with a place in round 1.
Brown is injured and banks hasn’t come close to winning a spot in the seniors yet.
As for Miller and Ryan. Agree 1 needs to be playing the second ruck/resting fwd role. You’ve got to accept that you are in a very small minority that thinks we should be playing all of Lynch, Jack, Nank, Miller and Ryan. You’ve been presenting this opinion like it’s the general consensus but I really haven’t seen many if any agree. That is one tall too many imo. 3 permanent tall forwards + the resting ruck makes us even more pedestrian down there then we showed we were in the preseason. Can already imagine teams rebounding out of there with ease. Jury is out on jack having another season in him, but tbh if he wasn’t going around again I would be inclined to trial Lynch and Dusty as the CHF/FF partnership and instead have another small or mid in as jacks replacement. Say what you will about Dusty’s form over the last couple of seasons, it would take a brave brave defender to leave him to go and double team Lynch. That is Of course unless a tall on our list shows that they are better placed in that role which you may be right in that we won’t really know this unless we trial them at afl level.
I think this is meant for me. Where have i asked for Miller and Ryan to be played other than in the context of Tarrant being injured and Miller plays F/B and Ryan plays as the second ruck/fwd. Are you deliberately being disingenuous.
Would like to see how many teams i have put up with all four in the fwd half
Reckon i have consistently put up this or damn close to it.
Rioli/Clarke - Riewoldt - Ryan/Miller that means one of. ::)
Cumberland - Lynch - Bolton.
When Tarrant is back then one of Miller or Ryan plays second ruck third tall fwd and one will have to miss out. I think that is pretty much a consensus around here and a line i have pushed pretty hard. Any one who thinks we don't need to get games into another tall up fwd is wrong imo.
Have toyed with the idea of finding a way to play both Miller and Ryan that would mean one as a permanent fwd and one as a ruckman
Coming from the bench with Nankervis. But mainly its been one or the other playing and i think a permanent tall fwd would be the best option of all hence why i was so pleased we took Bradtke and why i think Balta should be persevered as a fwd when Gibcus and Tarrant are fit.
There is nothing to stop us playing JR TL and one of SR, or BM as a ruck/fwd kpf or third tall, nothing.
Sheesh we play Jack Tom and Dusty and Dusty is not renowned for his defensive efforts or running.
Dusty has been injured and had serious family issues because of them his form has been lousy.
He is now in his 30's done every thing that can be done in footy nothing wrong in asking if he has the hunger and if father time has not caught up to him a bit.
My opinion on Dusty has been and remains he is a mid who should be played primarily as a mid with some short stints thru the fwd half probably alternating with one of Ryan or Miller if we play one of them. I have been firmly against the Cotchin move fwd it just denies kids like Cumberland Clarke and even Sonsie the opportunity to play.
I agree reckon we can fit both Miller and Ryan give us more potency and heigh.
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I think we'll see Jack rested in blocks this season - ie between rounds 6-9 & 14-18 - at minimum. This will give Ryan his chance to work alongside Lynch. If he plays well then the selectors will have a dilemma and that may mean we try working with three talls. My only problem with this is Dimma's forward pressure requirement. We have dropped Cumberland, our best up-and-coming forward of last year, for an average Mansell purely based on Mansell's superior defensive skills. If we have Lynch, Jack, Ryan, Dusty, Bolton and Cotchin/Mansell/Taranto (resting mid) then we have lost all of our F50 pressure. Swap in MJR and it isn't enough to force the turnovers we need. The bare standard appears two mid to small-sized defensive-minded forwards - that doesn't bode well for the idea of playing three talls.
For mine, I'd be happy to have Lynch, Jack and Ryan all lining up together if Dusty was moved back into the midfield (drifting forward). I don't believe we can have Dusty and Bolton in the same forward line. They are both too goal focused and give too much space to their opponents. I'd rather Bolton and Dusty rotating through the same spot, from forward to mid. This would free up a spot.
Anyway, at the moment, Dimma is trying too hard to fit in all the midfielders he now has to the detriment of our forward balance. Ryan and Cumberland deserve a shot but both might need to wait a few weeks unfortunately.
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What did we all think of Sonsie's first game back for the year?
15 disposals (8k, 7h, 4c, 11u, 80% eff.)
2 marks
2 F50 tackles
2 inside 50s
171 metres gained
2 intercepts
1 free for
4 score involvements
81% time on ground
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Better for the run.
I think he'll improve with more games.
Like JC, keep him in.
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Plays week in and week out for me.
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Plays week in and week out for me.
Agree totally
Such an exciting kid
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Plays week in and week out for me.
100% and every day of the week. On his game i thought he was a bit fumbly, conditions maybe an excuse or first game back getting used to the pace. Either way we want him in the team to be super clean.
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Smart move. on target with left. smooth #gotiges
https://twitter.com/CKane80/status/1644847863481118720
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Here's the vision of the incident:
WATCH HERE: https://twitter.com/7AFL/status/1693122846313120198
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From the HeraldSun:
Richmond’s emerging young midfielder Tyler Sonsie faces a lengthy VFL suspension for a brain fade that saw him felling opponent Tom Cappellari on Sunday.
Sonsie’s left-handed strike to the jaw of North Melbourne player Cappellari is certain to draw a multi-week suspension that could impact the start of his 2024 season.
The Tigers won through to a VFL elimination final but he is sure to miss that clash, with the No.28 draft pick a player who Richmond believes is a key part of their midfield for the next era.
Cappellari immediately grabbed at his jaw and went to ground in the final-quarter incident, with Sonsie to be dealt with by the VFL match review system.
Under that system Paddy McCartin was handed a five-week suspension in 2021 for a vicious strike on his opponent.
Sonsie’s hit was not as forceful but could easily be a three or four-week ban.
Under VFL rules the match review panel assesses suspensions and can offer discounts if players plead guilty early.
But the off-the-ball nature of Sonsie’s strike could see him sent straight to the tribunal.
Richmond’s round 22 VFL win put them into the new-look wildcard round for the VFL, with the Roos’ percentage also seeing them through to the VFL wildcard round.
With Trent Cotchin retiring alongside Jack Riewoldt there is another midfield spot open for player like Sonsie to become AFL regulars.
But unless the Tigers’ VFL side pushes deep into the VFL finals he could face a significantly delayed start to the season.
https://www.codesports.com.au/afl/afl-2023-all-the-mro-news-and-analysis-from-round-23/news-story/d708921cbf0b90d9e112f442d6f58671
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His coaches should be ropable. Wish he attacked the footy with as much vigour as the push. Anything under 4 weeks should be considered a win.
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Probably frustrated he can’t get a game in the 1s
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At least he showed some aggression!!!!. Apparently very misplaced. going by most reports of his season he has lacked a bit when it comes to contact. If true certainly one area he will need to improve next year.
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‘Did not look good!’ Young Tiger Tyler Sonsie facing one of AFL’s biggest bans in years for brutal strike
Fox Footy from Fox Sports
August 21st, 2023 5:47 pm
Richmond young gun Tyler Sonsie is facing one of the biggest suspensions in years after an ugly off-the-ball strike at VFL level on Sunday.
With his side leading by two goals late in the match, Sonsie appeared to lose his cool and lash out at North Melbourne opponent Tom Cappellari.
Vision shows the duo tangle over the boundary line in the match at the Swinburne Centre in Melbourne before Sonsie reacts.
Getting to his feet, Sonsie goes back at Cappellari and appears to land a blow to the chin of the Roo.
Cappellari is then seen clutching at his face on the turf in worrying scenes.
Sonsie has since been charged with striking, graded intentional, severe and high contact. He was referred directly to the VFL Tribunal and is facing a minimum sanction of five games.
“It seems as though there’s been a very significant incident at the VFL,” journalist Sam McLure said on 3AW.
“Richmond youngster Tyler Sonsie … has lashed out at Tom Cappellari a North Melbourne VFL player.
“From what I could see, it was a left fist that caught Cappellari somewhere on the chin – certainly in the upper region.
“It was completely off the ball.
“There’s two sides to every story but the vision did not look good.”
Sonsie had been in line for a possible senior recall in the final round after playing a starring role in that VFL clash.
He finished with a team-high 23 disposals, three clearances, two inside 50s and a goal.
https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/did-not-look-good-young-tiger-in-hot-water-for-brutal-offtheball-vfl-strike/news-story/2f486df0f6624b452e13e2b42cfa59f0
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Richmond's Tyler Sonsie has been sent direct to the VFL Tribunal for striking in the VFL. Graded as intentional, severe and high contact with a base sanction of 5+ matches.
https://twitter.com/CalTwomey/status/1693522177302360276
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No way it's worth 5 games. 3 probably, 4 maybe.
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Have to add on the Richmond tax
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Well he can aim for a massive preseason, muscle up, be like a new recruit
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How's the North bloke? Only reason I'd give him more than 3 was if there's a severe facial injury
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How's the North bloke? Only reason I'd give him more than 3 was if there's a severe facial injury
Only could find this, AT.
Tom Cappellari, who gathered 18 disposals and played a hand in several scores, went down late in the fourth quarter following a head-high strike from Richmond's Tyler Sonsie, but has pulled up well.
https://www.nmfc.com.au/news/1410638/vfl-r22-match-report-kangas-clinch-wildcard-berth
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The North player clearly made it look worse. He should play soccer with that drama.
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5 at least. Can’t except violence as being accepted on field and off.
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:banghead
Snip
Stick to the topic and leave the clear baiting off the forum
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As an aside
If the hit was so bad
capillaries would be concussed and unable to play next week??
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You'd be arguing that it was severe.
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Punching someone is no longer a part of the game and should be dealt with harshly. Boasting about doing it shows zero class and perhaps those posters haven’t lost a loved one to a coward punch
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It wasn't a "coward punch" - he didn't blindside him they were facing each other - also doubt it was his intent to actually chin him but to push him the chest but he stuffed it up - still an idiot for doing it though. :shh
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I don't think it should be 5 weeks, 4 max IMHO
But it appears the way the rules etc are written it will be 5 weeks
Let's hope we got past Wildcard round and he can serve some of it via the VFL
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Reduced from severe grading to high impact.
Only ended up coping 3. Take it and run.
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Reduced from severe grading to high impact.
Only ended up coping 3. Take it and run.
They must've found out we're trading him.... :shh
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Reduced from severe grading to high impact.
Only ended up coping 3. Take it and run.
They must've found out we're trading him.... :shh
:snidegrin
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‘Can’t be allowed to stand’: AFL hosts unload after shock Tribunal finding over ‘king hit’
Fox Sports
August 22nd, 2023 9:27 pm
Richmond young gun Tyler Sonsie has escaped with a three-match ban for an ugly off-the-ball strike at VFL level on Sunday.
With his side leading by two goals late in the match, Sonsie appeared to lose his cool and lash out at North Melbourne opponent Tom Cappellari.
Vision shows the duo tangle over the boundary line in the match at the Swinburne Centre in Melbourne before Sonsie reacts.
Getting to his feet, Sonsie goes back at Cappellari and appears to land a blow to the chin of the Roo.
Cappellari is then seen clutching at his face on the turf.
The incident was graded intentional conduct with severe impact and high contact.
At the VFL Tribunal on Tuesday night, Sonsie pleaded guilty to striking, but successfully argued severe impact down to high.
That would usually result in a four-match sanction, but Sonsie’s guilty plea to the charge of striking meant the sanction was reduced to three matches.
It was a penalty dubbed “woefully inadequate” by AFL 360 co-host Gerard Whateley on Tuesday night and one that “can’t be allowed to stand”.
Co-host Mark Robinson agreed, labelling the decision “rubbish”.
“There’s some words being exchanged, but you’re not expecting someone ... you can’t walk up to a player and punch him in the face like that,” he said.
“James Sicily got three weeks for a tackle in an act of play. Whether you agree with it or not, we’re starting to get our heads around it but that (Sonsie’s strike) is a blatant act of violence on the football field.
“We have just been smashing two s***heads for bashing up Jack Ziebell and we have the same violence on the field and we get a three week suspension.
“I get so frustrated with the inconsistency of footy and the inconsistency of life.”
https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-2023-tyler-sonsie-punch-king-hit-vfl-tribunal-how-many-weeks-downgraded-reaction-angry-richmond/news-story/6f3c5c747ba8afcbeb41d71428f2ab43
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Wish someone would clock those two self-righteous idiots.... :whine
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Here we go. Let the media pile on begin which forces the afl to appeal the decision…
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The VFL are appealing.
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Well the media witch hunt has worked beautifully for the AFL's deflection campaign. The VFL are appealing the tribunal decision.
https://twitter.com/Sammy__Edmund/status/1694215565106454600?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1694215565106454600%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=
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5 weeks, you watch
pig c.... they are
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Look at the witch hunt for our players lol and the media and afl brushing the debacle of the last 2 weeks costing sides games getting rid of the attention sweep it away. The media are all owned by this corrupt and incompetent organisation no courage to call them out pathetic journalism.
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The guy is not even concussed, King Hit ??? Dream on
Not ideal but just let it go.
I was at a game vs Hawthorn, brereton punched Tony Free in the back of the head 40m away from play, broke Tony’s jaw, he never played again.
That was a king hit
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He stiff armed him to the head when Freezer was coming in to tackle a Hawk player. Got 8 weeks.
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Well the media witch hunt has worked beautifully for the AFL's deflection campaign. The VFL are appealing the tribunal decision.
https://twitter.com/Sammy__Edmund/status/1694215565106454600?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1694215565106454600%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=
Like clockwork it is.
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VFL to appeal Tyler Sonsie tribunal decision
The Victorian Football League (VFL) wishes to advise that it today notified the VFL Appeal Board and the Richmond Football Club that it would appeal the three-game suspension imposed on Richmond’s Tyler Sonsie for striking in last weekend’s Round 22 VFL match.
The VFL Match Review Panel initially graded the incident as intentional conduct, severe impact and high contact.
Because the incident was graded as severe impact, it was sent directly to the VFL Tribunal with a base sanction of 5+ matches in accordance with the classification.
The VFL Tribunal found that the incident constituted high impact (downgraded from severe), intentional conduct and high contact, which carries a base sanction of a four- match suspension.
The sanction was reduced to a three-match suspension based on Sonsie’s early guilty plea to that classification.
The VFL will appeal the three-game suspension on the grounds that:
(A) the decision involved an error of law that had a material impact on the Tribunal’s decision;
(B) the decision was so unreasonable that no Controlling Body or Tribunal acting reasonably could have come to that decision having regard to the evidence before it;
(C) the classification of the Reportable Offence or Policy Breach or other conduct (as applicable) was manifestly excessive or inadequate.
The appeal will be heard at 5:00pm on Monday, August 28.
https://www.afl.com.au/news/1016109/vfl-to-appeal-tyler-sonsie-tribunal-decision
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I was at a game vs Hawthorn, brereton punched Tony Free in the back of the head 40m away from play, broke Tony’s jaw, he never played again.
That was a king hit
That was Round 19, 1994. Freezer missed the next 4 weeks but made it back for the final round of that season.
Tearing his ACL in Round 5, 1995 ended his career. Came back for one game the following year but the knee wasn't right and he never played again :(.
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5 weeks, you watch
pig c.... they are
:banghead :banghead
you are walking a very thin line Frankie
you know the rules around the "C" word, this is your 2nd post like this in the last couple of days
We'll let it slide this time but one more and it's the 48 hour swear bench for you
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5 weeks, you watch
pig c.... they are
:banghead :banghead
you are walking a very thin line Frankie
you know the rules around the "C" word, this is your 2nd post like this in the last couple of days
We'll let it slide this time but one more and it's the 48 hour swear bench for you
But the cops are pigs.... :police: :shh
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Can't remember in recent history VFL or AFL appealing? I remember Houli in 17.
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No issue with it. Thuggish behaviour should be punished for the full extent :shh
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They could retrospectively charge Dangerfield with several things after his 'heroics' in the '20 GF ... but they wont ...
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No issue with it. Thuggish behaviour should be punished for the full extent :shh
:lol
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No issue with it. Thuggish behaviour should be punished for the full extent :shh
:lol
:lol :lol
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No issue with it. Thuggish behaviour should be punished for the full extent :shh
What a lot of dribble.Are playing a mans sport or not.
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I was at a game vs Hawthorn, brereton punched Tony Free in the back of the head 40m away from play, broke Tony’s jaw, he never played again.
That was a king hit
That was Round 19, 1994. Freezer missed the next 4 weeks but made it back for the final round of that season.
Tearing his ACL in Round 5, 1995 ended his career. Came back for one game the following year but the knee wasn't right and he never played again :(.
Thanks for the correction👌
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No issue with it. Thuggish behaviour should be punished for the full extent :shh
What a lot of dribble.Are playing a mans sport or not.
Punching a person doesn't = playing a mans sport. Way off the mark as violence has not place in the AFL full stop. Being physical has a place but throwing jabs is thuggish behavior. Again you're way off the mark on this one.
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Eyes on the ball and at it full throttle is tuff and brave
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No issue with it. Thuggish behaviour should be punished for the full extent :shh
What a lot of dribble.Are playing a mans sport or not.
Punching a person doesn't = playing a mans sport. Way off the mark as violence has not place in the AFL full stop. Being physical has a place but throwing jabs is thuggish behavior. Again you're way off the mark on this one.
:lol
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No issue with it. Thuggish behaviour should be punished for the full extent :shh
What a lot of dribble.Are playing a mans sport or not.
Punching a person doesn't = playing a mans sport. Way off the mark as violence has not place in the AFL full stop. Being physical has a place but throwing jabs is thuggish behavior. Again you're way off the mark on this one.
must go back on the bachar houli thread to see similar comments. Surely you posted on that hit?
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No issue with it. Thuggish behaviour should be punished for the full extent :shh
What a lot of dribble.Are playing a mans sport or not.
Punching a person doesn't = playing a mans sport. Way off the mark as violence has not place in the AFL full stop. Being physical has a place but throwing jabs is thuggish behavior. Again you're way off the mark on this one.
must go back on the bachar houli thread to see similar comments. Surely you posted on that hit?
:shh
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No issue with it. Thuggish behaviour should be punished for the full extent :shh
What a lot of dribble.Are playing a mans sport or not.
Punching a person doesn't = playing a mans sport. Way off the mark as violence has not place in the AFL full stop. Being physical has a place but throwing jabs is thuggish behavior. Again you're way off the mark on this one.
:lol
:lol :lol
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VFL must be confident they will get up on an appeal. Doesn't auger well for Sonsie. Hope I am wrong but think he is going to get a much harsher penalty.
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He deserves 5 weeks for stupidity
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And another 5 for not following up with a right hook
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Ollie Lord just did same thing to Vlastuin but cause he's not a sook and didn't go down like a sack of potatoes wont cop a mention
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Ollie Lord just did same thing to Vlastuin but cause he's not a sook and didn't go down like a sack of potatoes wont cop a mention
Here's the vision:
https://www.afl.com.au/video/1018877/lord-of-the-swing-ollie-cops-heat-for-high-contact
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Thought the same thing that Lord was identical to Sonsie. You still can't do that, it's a week.
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3 week ban stands. What’s the bet of a second appeal…..
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https://twitter.com/CalTwomey/status/1696093827013157054
:clapping
Suck shyte Wimpley & Slobbo.... :tvhappy
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Hahahaha.
What's worse is some on here said he should have got 5.
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3 week ban stands. What’s the bet of a second appeal…..
The VFL had to prove that the previous tribunal had incorrectly ruled on a point of law. The reality was the appeal was no chance of getting up. AFL stuffed themselves with their points system. As soon as the #lolnorf player got up uninjured it was impossible for them to grade it severe.
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Interesting Ollie Lord did almost identical act but Young stood ground, didn't play for free kick and he gets nothing.
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A big year next year needed from Sonz. Touchwood today is finally the beginning of a full preseason for him.
(https://resources.richmondfc.com.au/photo-resources/2023/11/13/3b0b3ec8-705e-467e-b226-3cda0b4d2d02/AFLTrainingNovember13-1351-Tyler-Sonsie.jpg?width=580)
(https://resources.richmondfc.com.au/photo-resources/2023/11/13/00cdbd99-3d64-4449-8e65-99b708cc3076/AFLTrainingNovember13-0853-Tyler-Sonsie.jpg?width=580)
(https://resources.richmondfc.com.au/photo-resources/2023/11/13/082a5842-cc82-4e19-b528-6ce502911acc/AFLTrainingNovember13-1333-Tyler-Sonsie.jpg?width=580)
(https://resources.richmondfc.com.au/photo-resources/2023/11/13/8273b668-fb1a-4105-9149-396a979a6b78/AFLTrainingNovember13-1338-Tyler-Sonsie.jpg?width=580)
(https://resources.richmondfc.com.au/photo-resources/2023/11/13/1c0f823e-7036-4ce2-b67a-aeead86b1c0e/AFLTrainingNovember13-1340-Tyler-Sonsie.jpg?width=580)
https://www.richmondfc.com.au/albums/1464384/afl-pre-season-november-13-2023
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Guys like Sonsie, Cumberland, Gibcus and Banks are why we can make a quick bounce back up the ladder. Talent is there, bodies and application is the key…
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Sonsie is meant to be the best “natural footballer” from our draft haul that year right?
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Left footer……
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Early days but 'Spy' says Sonz is impressing at preseason training so far. Touchwood, he finally gets a full preseason under his belt unlike last year when he spent most of it in rehab and as a result had an ordinary year topped off by getting himself suspended that will keep out of the early rounds in 2024.
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I suspect he will be a big improver this year after the second year blues
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The body transformation is real.. Here’s hoping The Sonz also takes a big step forward in his footy this coming season. (https://abs-0.twimg.com/emoji/v2/svg/1f4aa.svg) (https://abs-0.twimg.com/emoji/v2/svg/1f42f.svg) #flying #gotiges
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GAIcZU7acAEJ5iH?format=jpg&name=medium)
https://twitter.com/Tigers_of_Old/status/1729976433332920366
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Looks much more muscular which is great
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He's going to miss the start of the real stuff due to his suspension, but how did we all see Sonz's game today?
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He's going to miss the start of the real stuff due to his suspension, but how did we all see Sonz's game today?
Solid without being spectacular
Disposal efficiency is first rate
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I hope he can dominate a few games in the vfl once he finishes his suspension and force his way into the seniors.
Just looks like a very classy long term prospect.
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On the Tyler Sonsie bandwagon (https://abs-0.twimg.com/emoji/v2/svg/1f42f.svg) (https://abs-0.twimg.com/emoji/v2/svg/1f42f.svg)
Special talent. Big year coming.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GGmzGF2a4AAolZV?format=jpg&name=900x900)
https://twitter.com/aflcentral1/status/1759134052647661746
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He's going to miss the start of the real stuff due to his suspension, but how did we all see Sonz's game today?
Solid without being spectacular
Disposal efficiency is first rate
His disposal is something we desperately need to get into the team. We have so many who just don't meet the standard.
If not in the midfield then he should be playing the high HF role and they should be looking to get it into his hands.
Sammy Banks is another who needs to find a way to be more involved because of his ball use.
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A break for Richmond’s Tyler Sonsie. Can serve the last two weeks of his three week VFL ban for a behind the play strike in Rounds Zero & 1. The VFL appealed the penalty. But might only miss one VFL clash, can play round 1 of the VFL season (which starts in round 2 of the AFL)
https://twitter.com/RalphyHeraldSun/status/1761637235399819616
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Thought that was just common sense. What, he has to wait until the vfl starts like 3 weeks later then wait another 2?
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Young midfielder Tyler Sonsie is set to spend the opening two rounds on the sidelines through a suspension handed down from the VFL last year.
The former Pick 28 selection has enjoyed a strong pre-season to date to build his selection case ahead of a return, keeping himself in consideration in the minds of his coaches.
Sonsie adds to a midfield unit that is set to be led by Tim Taranto, Jacob Hopper and veteran Dustin Martin in 2024, while Dion Prestia is looking to return from a hamstring issue as youngster Thomson Dow also presses his case.
Seen as "a real strength" in Yze's plans, Nankervis expressed his delight in the depth options the Tigers have this year.
"We've seen a lot of what Sonsie can do in a little amount of games. He's come back in great shape, is running really well and he really hit the ground running. He'll be keen to play early," he said.
"I think it's a real strength of our group. I think the depth in the midfield that we've got - Thomson Dow's had a great summer and Dion is a star of the competition. There's so much depth, which we probably haven't had over the last couple of years.
"So hopefully everyone can stay injury-free and really attack that part of the game."
Source: Zerohanger.com (https://www.zerohanger.com/richmond-skipper-provides-latest-on-playing-chances-for-season-opener-147818/).
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Keep forgetting this kid is suspended. Shame really.
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Not a great game but his class was still obvious -must keep playing him... :shh
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Not a great game but his class was still obvious -must keep playing him... :shh
Yup. Didn’t see much of it but attacked the footy and made his presence felt when the ball came his way.
Wish they’d chuck him in the middle even for short spells. I could be mistaken but I think he played forward all game?
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Not a great game but his class was still obvious -must keep playing him... :shh
Yup. Didn’t see much of it but attacked the footy and made his presence felt when the ball came his way.
Wish they’d chuck him in the middle even for short spells. I could be mistaken but I think he played forward all game?
Agreed.
I was surprised to see he didn't get much ball. Felt like he was bigger than his numbers tonight.
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Made some costly poor decisions in the last and copped a htb that was there but London to a brick we wouldn't have got had the roles been reversed... but kept coming back for more and could've still won us the game but for a couple of Aints fingernails - stayed involved when the whips were cracking...must persist and get 50 into him asap....more class than arse.... :shh
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Yup couldn’t do much with the htb, pretty much picked it up and got tackled after 1-2 steps at full pace.
Had a couple of poor efforts nearer to the end, 1 where he didn’t go in hard enough and another where he handballed it straight to the saints player.
I think there is a seriously good player there. Needs to be in the side all year and atleast give him some midfield minutes.
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He’s out of position due to injuries. Was at FF at times
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Atleast he tried and got involved last quarter a few of our senior players were passengers.
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He’s out of position due to injuries. Was at FF at times
Agree, reckon he's down there because he had footy smarts. Good footy smarts
Made some costly poor decisions in the last and copped a htb that was there but London to a brick we wouldn't have got had the roles been reversed... but kept coming back for more and could've still won us the game but for a couple of Aints fingernails - stayed involved when the whips were cracking...must persist and get 50 into him asap....more class than arse.... :shh
Yep, thought the attempted underground handball to Dusty was a shocking decision but at the same time understand why he tried it.
Need him to keep him in the team and let him develop. Too much upside to have him stagnate in the VFL
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He shows plenty of footy smarts and skill IMO.
His goal was a ripper.
Need to find the right spot for him which I personally think is the Lambert HF role.