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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: one-eyed on November 30, 2022, 06:52:20 PM
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AFL draft 2022: Overlooked ex-Geelong midfielder Quinton Narkle to get pre-season train-on gig at Richmond
Paywall: https://thewest.com.au/sport/richmond-tigers/afl-draft-2022-overlooked-ex-geelong-midfielder-quinton-narkle-to-get-pre-season-train-on-gig-at-richmond-c-9015661
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May as well have kept Stack
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Delisted Geelong midfielder Quinton Narkle is reportedly set to secure a train and trial gig at Richmond across the course of the coming off-season.
Narkle was axed by the Cats just days after the club's premiership win over Sydney, with the Maddington product among five players cut by the Kardinia Park club.
The list call saw an end to the 24-year-old's time in Geelong, which spanned 41 games and five seasons.
Narkle's management has already revealed there has been some level of interest in the fringe midfielder since he departed Geelong, however Narkle was overlooked at this week's National and Rookie drafts after being among close to 900 nominees for the off-season intake.
According to The West Australian, Narkle is set to receive a training invite to join Richmond's AFL program for the coming months.
AFL clubs are able to invite players to join their pre-season plans ahead of and during the Supplemental Selection Period, which is set to run from January next through to March.
The Tigers flipped their midfield this year, with premiership stalwarts Kane Lambert and Shane Edwards announcing their retirement from the game, while the likes of Riley Collier-Dawkins and Will Martyn were not offered new deals.
Richmond acquired GWS pair Tim Taranto and Jacob Hopper through the trade period in what was an aggressive double coup for the Tigers.
Narkle could add to the new-look midfield ensemble at Punt Road should he impress across the summer.
https://www.zerohanger.com/richmond-essendon-to-hand-training-invites-to-wa-pair-130704/
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Do we have just the one spot left on our list plus a rookie B
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Do we have just the one spot left on our list plus a rookie B
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"Narkle could add to the new-look midfield ensemble at Punt Road should he impress across the summer."
After six years at Geelong where he struggled to build up a tank (Geelong suporters bemoaning the fact that he was way behind the midfielders at training)
Exactly what has changed that will enable him to add to the new look midfield.
Tank not good enough.
No Left foot
Average right foot.
Stack offers way more than Narkle, while his tank is about the same Stack's kicking is near elite.
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"Narkle could add to the new-look midfield ensemble at Punt Road should he impress across the summer."
After six years at Geelong where he struggled to build up a tank (Geelong suporters bemoaning the fact that he was way behind the midfielders at training)
Exactly what has changed that will enable him to add to the new look midfield.
Tank not good enough.
No Left foot
Average right foot.
Stack offers way more than Narkle, while his tank is about the same Stack's kicking is near elite.
Stack may offer more on-field but he also breaks quarantine laws, breaks hub rules and spends the offseason partying. Forget him he is a victim of his own crappy attitude
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Have been told by listener MinSon (in talent scout circles) Narkle is about 70-80% to sign with us.
Is apparently doing all the right things and has had chats with senior players about this being a huge lifeline to take and he is grabbing it with both hands currently.
I would have thought a KPF would have been a more urgent recruitment need than another mid?? (https://abs-0.twimg.com/emoji/v2/72x72/1f914.png) (https://abs-0.twimg.com/emoji/v2/72x72/1f914.png) (https://abs-0.twimg.com/emoji/v2/72x72/1f914.png)
Not when we have one lined up as a trade target.
Investing our development resources into players at the club we think will play for us.
If we rookie a KPF put time into him then trade for a ready made player have we wasted time and resources ?
It's a tricky one!
I don't rate this at all, would rather the KPF we've got training with us
Definitely a strong argument to be made for Bradtke for sure!
Good luck to him. Has talent but he is not getting into that midfield. Does not work both ways.
I struggle to see how he fits as best 22 as well. Definitely not as a mid anyway.
https://twitter.com/BFtigercast/status/1602667164355670017
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Richmond has initially invited Narkle, Bradtke and Teal to train until Christmas but will sit down next week to make a decision on extending the invitation further before the Tigers' return for pre-season next month.
The club is likely to provide all three with a longer training stint in the new year ahead of the pre-season supplemental selection period deadline on February 15.
Narkle attracted interest in the weeks after being told his time was up, including from both West Coast and Fremantle, but has always been interested in remaining in Victoria.
The 25-year-old produced some eye-catching moments in the rain on Thursday and has made an impressive start to his trial at Punt Road Oval.
https://www.afl.com.au/news/871596
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It is understood the West Australian has stripped nearly eight kilograms off his frame in the past month after following a calculated training program over the break to increase his chances of securing a second chance.
Source: AFL website (https://www.afl.com.au/news/872382/new-tiger-takes-out-time-trial-honours-former-cat-s-strong-showing)
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Pass for me if Bradtke performs, he gets it.
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(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FmPBpQMagAAB_dy?format=jpg&name=medium)
https://twitter.com/meadooo1/status/1613346013133303810
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Reported on SEN that we had 2 time trials yesterday, second one was for the older group.
Narkle finished 3rd.
If he has improved his fitness base and endurance I wouldn't be surprised that we take him for the potential short term gain if it works.
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Reported on SEN that we had 2 time trials yesterday, second one was for the older group.
Narkle finished 3rd.
If he has improved his fitness base and endurance I wouldn't be surprised that we take him for the potential short term gain if it works.
The only plus in getting Narkle would be if he kicked the winning goal against Geelong, apart from that, pass for me
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I want the key forward guy. Sorry Narkle but you're surplus when guys like Graham might he 23-25.
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NARKLE “UNRECOGNISABLE” IN BID TO CONTINUE AFL CAREER AT RICHMOND
By Seb Mottram
SEN
13 January 2023
A slimmed-down Quinton Narkle is said to have lost nearly eight kilograms over the AFL players’ break as he attempts to reignite his career at the top level.
After six seasons at Geelong filled with promise and potential, Narkle largely fell out of favour in 2022 to manage just eight senior games.
But the 25-year-old continued to be on the edge of selection for the eventual premiers and consistently put up strong numbers as a goalkicking midfielder in the VFL.
Narkle has been training at Richmond since mid-December in the hopes of continuing his 41-game AFL career. His career-best performance came in 2021 when recording 34 disposals in a 34-point win over Gold Coast, including eight marks and six inside 50s.
On Thursday, cameras captured Narkle at Punt Road, with AFL Media’s Josh Gabelich noting the former Cat’s improved physique.
“He started in December, he’s auditioning for that rookie spot at Richmond right now and the difference in his body shape between December and January is quite stark,” Gabelich told AFL Media’s Footy Feed.
“He’s stripped off eight kilos during the break, he had a really strong block. He knows that he’s got one more chance left at AFL level and this could be it.”
Narkle has until February 15 to prove his worth to the Tigers, when the pre-season supplemental selection period ends.
He’s up against country footballer Kaelan Bradtke, who starred at Corowa in 2022, and overlooked draft prospect Luke Teal for the spot at Richmond.
But as SEN’s Sam Edmund noted, Narkle’s intent is a good sign for his prospects at Tigerland.
“The knock or query on him historically has been endurance, run and spread and the like,” he told SEN Breakfast.
“He was unrecognisable in the vision I saw… he’s one to watch because I think he can play the game.”
Narkle stands at 182 centimetres an his final playing weight was listed as 83 kilograms.
Narkle finished third in his two-kilometre time-time trial heat which featured Richmond’s younger players, according to Gabelich. That was taken out by Josh Gibcus in the fifth-fastest time of the day, while Tim Taranto claimed back-to-back time trials in a strong start to his career at Punt Road.
(https://images.ctfassets.net/u8w3l566ay8a/7G8GtcW2fOums8TDRMO4wq/86c4aa2ab7753b57ad5bc183c7cd4cb9/Narkle_Quinton.JPG?w=980&h=520&fit=fill&f=faces)
https://www.sen.com.au/news/2023/01/12/narkle-unrecognisable-in-bid-to-continue-afl-career-at-richmond/
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Where would he play??
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Honestly haven't seen enough of him to know whether or not I'm happy he's smashing out a good pre-season. We do need a key forward a lot more than another mid/forward, but he can obviously play a bit so who knows
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Can our VFL side find a place for him? If they could then he would be at the club when the MSD is held. If he proves his worth at VFL level use a MSD pick to put him on the list proper & he could then play AFL next year ...
He has to be worth it though ... & other players (Bradtke) would have to fall away dramatically for us to list him with the VFL side & then upgrade him ...
Just a thought though ...
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There's no spot for a MSD pick for us I believe. Someone would have to retire or be on the long term injury list was what someone was saying a while back.
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There's no spot for a MSD pick for us I believe. Someone would have to retire or be on the long term injury list was what someone was saying a while back.
Only if we take one of narkle or bradtke in the SSP. I think JP is saying for us to put them both on our vfl list to prove themselves before the MSD.
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Ah yeah, gotchya. Disagree completely though, pick one of them before the season imo. Can never have enough depth, especially if we get injuries early on
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Where would he play??
In the 2’s. 7 years in the system to work out he needs to lose weight in order to be an elite athlete.
Dud, delist.
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Where would he play??
In the 2’s. 7 years in the system to work out he needs to lose weight in order to be an elite athlete.
Dud, delist.
Yep, and even without a big tank any good player would still show talent.
I think he's a B grade talent with C grade tank, possibly about to have a B grade tank.
Bradtke should be added to our list asap. If Lynch and Jack go down early we cannot afford to wait until MSD.
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Where would he play??
In the 2’s. 7 years in the system to work out he needs to lose weight in order to be an elite athlete.
Dud, delist.
Yep, and even without a big tank any good player would still show talent.
I think he's a B grade talent with C grade tank, possibly about to have a B grade tank.
Bradtke should be added to our list asap. If Lynch and Jack go down early we cannot afford to wait until MSD.
Bradtke being an option to replace Tom or Jack this year if they go down? He is coming from a long way back and wouldn't be considered. Yes he has the size but my goodness, he hasn't even shown he can play at the next level down. Dimma would flick the magnets around to find a solution with listed players.
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I would select Quinton, look to list Bradtke into the VFL program.
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Narkle for me. I love a underdog story and anything and one that wants to give Geelong an up yours I'm all in. Cats shouldn't have let him go, with some ageing mugs on that list.
Asked for a trade end of last year after not being played in 1s and then Cats refused to trade only to not play him again. Has a point to prove. In good head space with weight loss and tank. Seen enough that he's worth of a list spot. To help rotate guys like Prestia and Cotch to manage them properly we could do far worse.
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Where would he play??
In the 2’s. 7 years in the system to work out he needs to lose weight in order to be an elite athlete.
Dud, delist.
Yep, and even without a big tank any good player would still show talent.
I think he's a B grade talent with C grade tank, possibly about to have a B grade tank.
Bradtke should be added to our list asap. If Lynch and Jack go down early we cannot afford to wait until MSD.
Bradtke being an option to replace Tom or Jack this year if they go down? He is coming from a long way back and wouldn't be considered. Yes he has the size but my goodness, he hasn't even shown he can play at the next level down. Dimma would flick the magnets around to find a solution with listed players.
It's not a stretch to imagine that both Tom & Lynch get injured. It would be pretty much season over if they missed a long period together.
Who does that leave us with to play forward? Miller would be my next option but then? Gibcus?
That would leave Tarrant, Grimes, Broad + Balta in the backline. I certainly don't want to try Balta forward again.
Anyway I get your point but obviously Bradtke isn't A grade like T&J but from a structural perspective I'd take him ten times before Narkle.
Let's see if I'm back for some humble pie but I doubt it.
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Narkle for me. I love a underdog story and anything and one that wants to give Geelong an up yours I'm all in. Cats shouldn't have let him go, with some ageing mugs on that list.
Asked for a trade end of last year after not being played in 1s and then Cats refused to trade only to not play him again. Has a point to prove. In good head space with weight loss and tank. Seen enough that he's worth of a list spot. To help rotate guys like Prestia and Cotch to manage them properly we could do far worse.
This would be the biggest factor for me haha.
If Prestia and Cotch are resting we will have Taranto, Hopper, Sonsie, Graham, then Bolton and Dusty maybe for a rotation. Ross on the outer surely. I really feel that we have addressed the midfield issue with our trade ins and Sonsie looking promising.
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Bradtke for me. sometimes you have to look further than right now. As Machine said he is coming from a long way back. Thing is at just 20 with little experience just a few vfl games the expectation would be for him to develop further in the two,s. He imo would be more like a nd pick than a player to come in and impact straight away.
He may lack experience but he sure looks to have most of the tools to play at afl level and imo if we don't take him we may not get another chance. Thats the tantalising bit we dont know what we have got with him.
Narkle well he may improve enough at afl level but lets be honest his career to date has been underwhelming 41 games in 6 seasons going at just 12.5 disposals a game low tackle numbers low c/p numbers low clearance numbers and goes at under half a goal a game.
He may well help the reserves team as we lack afl mids there but honestly he would be just another mid fighting for a spot with Graham Ross Dow Short Baker we have depth here we need a few genuine tall fwds in our system developing JR is just about gone and TL is already 30.
In most cases id say tall forwards take longer than any other type of player to develop we need to also be looking past right now and down the track a bit.
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Gerard Healy's opinion of Narkle from the 1:20 min mark of this vid:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6QyI4LJS4lw
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Pretty fair call claw. Agree with a lot of that.
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Quinton Narkle is another play Van Der Wielen represents and is chasing an AFL lifeline at Richmond.
The former Cat has improved his shape this pre-season and his manager believes it should hold the 25-year-old in good stead.
“Quinton has done everything that’s been asked of him. The only knock that Quinton has ever had on him was his transitional running and things like that, he’s improved that in the off-season, he’s dropped eight kilograms,” Van Der Wielen explained.
Source: SEN (https://www.sen.com.au/news/2023/01/20/bolton-turned-down-a-lot-of-interest-from-rivals-in-signing-long-term-with/)
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Kudos to Narkle for getting fit enough for AFL level and leaving it all on the training track and demonstrating his emerging maturity by putting himself forward at the Tigers, however,
For structure and potential it just has to be Bradtke and no 2nd class key position retreads from other clubs.
If Bradtke has AFL attributes and needs a year in the Richmond system then pick him and sign him.
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No to Narkle for me his not worth taking games off our quality kids.
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Former Geelong player Quinton Narkle had also been training with the Club throughout the SSP, with the midfielder unlucky to not also receive a list spot.
“Quinton came back from the Christmas break in career-best condition and impressed us with his character and commitment to our program,” Richmond National Recruiting Manager Matt Clarke said.
“Unfortunately we did not have two spots available, so we needed to make a very hard decision. He couldn't have done any more during his time training at the Club."
https://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/1270121/
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Narkle is expected to take some time to consider a number of state league offers from across the country before making a decision on his next move, with Richmond's VFL program one option he might consider.
https://www.afl.com.au/news/874909
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I hope Narkle stays and plays in the 2’s. He put the work in and deserves a crack if an opportunity presents itself , if he can keep it together
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We've picked someone up in every midseason draft so far (Bauer, Parker, Pickett). So Narkle playing for our VFL side and learning the way we play until the MSD wouldn't be a bad option for him.
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Just put George on the LTI for his moderate hammy and take Narkle lol
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Just put George on the LTI for his moderate hammy and take Narkle lol
:cheers
Great idea
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Why? He is a C+ midfielder.
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Sounds like he was training to play at half-back anyway.
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Perth chase former Geelong midfielder Quinton Narkle as Essendon, Richmond VFL also in the hunt
Mitchell Woodcock
The West Australian
Fri, 17 February 2023 4:07PM
Perth are competing against two VFL sides for the signature of former Geelong midfielder Quinton Narkle after he did not get a spot on Richmond’s list.
Narkle, 25, trained with the Tigers over the summer but was overlooked in favour of country forward Kaelan Bradtke, who was also set to play for Perth if he did not get a gig in the AFL.
The AFL’s Supplementary Selection Period closed on Wednesday, meaning Narkle must now wait until the mid-season draft to add to his 41 games for the Cats.
The West Australian understands both Richmond and Essendon’s VFL sides want Narkle to play for them this season, with the midfielder weighing up his future based on his family.
“Quinton came back from the Christmas break in career-best condition and impressed us with his character and commitment to our program,” Richmond national recruiting manager Matt Clarke said.
“Unfortunately we did not have two spots available, so we needed to make a very hard decision. He couldn’t have done any more during his time training at the club.”
Meanwhile, troubled former AFL star Sydney Stack is committed to playing for the Demons, having hit the track in their past eight sessions.
Stack, 22, is set to be an important part of the Demons’ midfielder in 2023 as they seek a return to finals under new coach Peter German.
Stack, 22, is set to be an important part of the Demons’ midfielder in 2023 as they seek a return to finals under new coach Peter German.
https://thewest.com.au/sport/perth-football-club/wafl-2023-perth-chase-former-geelong-midfielder-quinton-narkle-as-essendon-richmond-vfl-also-in-the-hunt-c-9785192
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Quinton Narkle has decided to remain in Victoria and play for Essendon’s VFL side.
The Perth Football League product, who was overlooked for an AFL lifeline by Richmond in the recently-concluded Pre-Season Supplemental Selection Period (SSP), saw the Bombers as the best chance of returning to the top flight.
Essendon kept one spot open ahead of the mid-season rookie draft with 25-year-old Narkle among several contenders.
https://thewest.com.au/sport/wafl/wafl-clubs-miss-out-as-essendon-vfl-swoop-on-ex-geelong-midfielder-quinton-narkle-c-9866950
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Good luck to him but I'm thrilled we took Bradtke, who looks a great size and has some pace.
Half our midfield would need to go down before Narkle would get a chance with us.