We all said the same great things about Akermanis last year Hellenic. He did very little for the Doggies.
Be stupid to draft him.
yep sure would draft himSee ya
his a champion & always will be on the footy field
his personal buisness = care factor 0
as for that this is my last post l'm out of here cheers
his personal buisness = care factor 0
And I'm in total agreeance with the Del Santo'p parent in them wanting cousins to hand back the Brownlow and give it to the rightful owner of it in Nick.I hadn't heard that said but I'm not in agreeance if it was.
He's a druggy pure and simple and he wont be changing a thing. He has gone to America to make it look good so he doesn't end up in jail just where he actually belongs.
[In any case, if it were to happen then wouldn't the rightful recipient be Daniel Kerr who finished 2nd behind Cousins and ahead of Dal Santo? ???
Cousins has been in and out of trouble since 2002. Do we really need someone like that at Richmond? Do you think the sponsors would like that? Bad enough when TAC pulled the pin over the Schultz incident.
Can you pass in the PSD.Yep you can as long as you can rearrange your list so there's the required 38 senior listed players.
Can you pass in the PSD.Yep you can as long as you can rearrange your list so there's the required 38 senior listed players.
At the moment Richmond has only 3 spots on the senior list empty and hence 3 picks. All 3 picks need to be used in the National draft as that's the minimum so we can't use our PSD pick anyway unless we either delist another player or demote a player to the rookie list.
I thought participating in the National draft was compulsory.Can you pass in the PSD.Yep you can as long as you can rearrange your list so there's the required 38 senior listed players.
At the moment Richmond has only 3 spots on the senior list empty and hence 3 picks. All 3 picks need to be used in the National draft as that's the minimum so we can't use our PSD pick anyway unless we either delist another player or demote a player to the rookie list.
That's not true .. You can have all three picks in the PSD if you choose and pass on the ND
NAB AFL Draft:
It is compulsory for clubs to participate and by this stage they can have a maximum of 35 players on their list.
http://www.afl.com.au/Season2007/NABAFLRisingStarsProgram/NABAFLDraft/tabid/282/Default.aspx
In the papers tomorrow it says Cousins' manager has approached at least one club before Cousins flew overseas. St Kilda was also a potential suitor around trade week time.
I think you'll find that this is not true and that you must use a minimum of 3 picks in the ND.
You can have all three picks in the PSD if you choose and pass on the ND
I would be very surprised if it was Cousins. :whistle
lets go get ben!
I think you'll find that this is not true and that you must use a minimum of 3 picks in the ND.
You can have all three picks in the PSD if you choose and pass on the ND
I'll bow to the knowledge of 'Weaver ' on BF who knows AFL rules inside-out.
Here's the link: http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/showthread.php?p=9292185#post9292185
22nd October 2007, 18:57 #75
Weaver
BigFooty Moderator
Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: Deledio Wonderland
Club: Richmond
Re: The Delisted players are decided . . . .
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Quote:
Originally Posted by David3030
Its not allowed, we either have to upgrade him or delist him from the rookie list, only allowed 2 years on rookie list.
Quote:
Originally Posted by phoenix_rise_
No, it is now three years.
Quote:
Originally Posted by phoenix_rise_
Because King has been upgraded he will be the "mature rookie" in his 3rd year.
It is 3 years but Howat is too old. He also can not be the mature-age rookie because he has already played AFL. He needs to be promoted or cut.
Quote:
Originally Posted by telsor
My understanding was 3 is the minimum in the draft, which leaves us 0 for the PSD.
People need to stop bandying around this minimum 3 picks thing. You have to have 3 vacancies. We can pass on them all if we like and use 3 PSD
weaver knows his buttcrack better than anyone
Good on you.
I'll bow to the knowledge of 'Weaver ' on BF who knows AFL rules inside-out.
Good on you.
I'll bow to the knowledge of 'Weaver ' on BF who knows AFL rules inside-out.
I'll bow to the knowledge of Greg Miller at RFC who knows the rules inside-out. :)
Good on you.
I'll bow to the knowledge of 'Weaver ' on BF who knows AFL rules inside-out.
I'll bow to the knowledge of Greg Miller at RFC who knows the rules inside-out. :)
I emailed him asking the question and he replied confirming a minimum of 3 picks must be used in the National Draft.
I don't know about any others but he replied to mine. ???
Oh so he is replying to emails is he. Or replying to some . . .
Weaver is one of the most informative people on the forums. On this point I thought he was incorrect but wasn't sure, so I decided to ask someone who I knew would be able to set me straight. He was kind enough to reply to my question.
We all said the same great things about Akermanis last year Hellenic. He did very little for the Doggies.Different types of players. Cousins runs all day and does all the tough things. He was/is a leader on the field and we would me crazy not to take him for nothing in the PSD. Who else are we going to get, Guy Richards???
Be stupid to draft him.
Rex just said on 3aw that Richmond shouldn't touch Cousins with a 10-foot pole.
The Swans have said today they have no interest in Cousins.
Rex just said on 3aw that Richmond shouldn't touch Cousins with a 10-foot pole.
The Swans have said today they have no interest in Cousins.
Rex is right.
Nope. I find Weaver's posts on junior footballers good reads as he goes into a lot of detail with them although he can be a bit "out there" with his ranking of draftees. He was kind enough to give OER his RFC history summary from his old Monash site. He is also part of the tiger talk yahoo email list/board which has been running since 1996.
Weaver is one of the most informative people on the forums. On this point I thought he was incorrect but wasn't sure, so I decided to ask someone who I knew would be able to set me straight. He was kind enough to reply to my question.
Has anyone actually met Weaver (Damian Streets) in person??
someone is spreading the rumour that we will pick him up, and this person is pretty confident that it will happen.Is that you rogerd3? ;) ;D
someone is spreading the rumour that we will pick him up, and this person is pretty confident that it will happen.Is that you rogerd3? ;) ;D
Cousins turns 30 in June next year. Even if some miracle happens and he gets himself cleaned up, if he was placed on the long-term injury list to play in 2009 that would make him almost 31 and not having played a game in 12-18 months.
He'll be lucky if he lives to 37 the way he's going.
That's a bitchin' avatar Monk.
Is she for real?
Such gorgeous facial features.
miller is still remaining active :lolQuote from: julzqld
link=topic=6105.msg78756#msg78756 date=1193435508He'll be lucky if he lives to 37 the way he's going.
hey julz for a "supposed/alleged" drug addict, ben looks in pretty damn gr8 shape
it sallegend he has been mucking around with ice and crystal meth for around 6 years now. thats a load of bull, have u ever seen an ice /meth user before, they look like death and wasted away.
i was at a function last night and caught up with an old mate who works for vic police. he is in CSI. unfortunately i cannot disclose what i know but i can tell you his problems are not addiction , its far beyond that, and even he told me, the WA police dont believe cuz is an addict
from what he told me, even though i would really like to see ben at rfc, i have now changed my mind. best we keep our distance from him
if ben does not live to 37, it wont be because of a drug or or addiction
We got Polak to Punt Road, why not Cous? :)
We got Polak to Punt Road, why not Cous? :)
Because Polak wasnt as out of control as COusins.
Interesting post.Yep as Kane Cornes said Cousins hadn't done the necessary work and it showed by him doing his hammy more than once.
BTW Ben is not in great physical shape.
He has rarely had soft tissue injuries through his career but had some major hamstring issues late in the season...
He will not play again IMO.
Is that right ::)We got Polak to Punt Road, why not Cous? :)
Because Polak wasnt as out of control as COusins.
Cousins got caught by the law. leave it at that!
What is true according to AFL law and rules that Cousins hasnt tested positive to anything( been tested over 20 times) , unlike several other players who have ;) FACT!
Interesting post.Yep as Kane Cornes said Cousins hadn't done the necessary work and it showed by him doing his hammy more than once.
BTW Ben is not in great physical shape.
He has rarely had soft tissue injuries through his career but had some major hamstring issues late in the season...
He will not play again IMO.
What is true according to AFL law and rules that Cousins hasnt tested positive to anything( been tested over 20 times) , unlike several other players who have ;) FACT!
Harvey is 36 and 7 years older than Cousins and Cousins had no soft-tissue injury history before this year. His first game back from rehab was delayed due to a hammy and then he redid the hammy in the finals. His interrupted preparation due to undergoing rehab and missing so much footy would be the likely cause.Interesting post.Yep as Kane Cornes said Cousins hadn't done the necessary work and it showed by him doing his hammy more than once.
BTW Ben is not in great physical shape.
He has rarely had soft tissue injuries through his career but had some major hamstring issues late in the season...
He will not play again IMO.
Kane Cornes is jealous his not classed anywhere near Cousins
That means your saying Robert Harvey is not doing the work as well but he tears hammys
What is true according to AFL law and rules that Cousins hasnt tested positive to anything( been tested over 20 times) , unlike several other players who have ;) FACT!
It's just not the AFL. Marion Jones showed how many holes are in the drug testing procedures when she avoided being caught for 8 years. Andrew Johns over a 10-year career knew he could get around the testing whenever he played on Friday night. Cousins wouldn't be doing rehab if he was clean.What is true according to AFL law and rules that Cousins hasnt tested positive to anything( been tested over 20 times) , unlike several other players who have ;) FACT!
id have to agree with u on this one..
the AFL look like the biggest losers here, when u get 30 odd players roaming around with postive tests and not a worry in the world. Then you have cousins who has abuse issues but never tested positive. its a farce it really is
Harvey is 36 and 7 years older than Cousins and Cousins had no soft-tissue injury history before this year. His first game back from rehab was delayed due to a hammy and then he redid the hammy in the finals. His interrupted preparation due to undergoing rehab and missing so much footy would be the likely cause.Interesting post.Yep as Kane Cornes said Cousins hadn't done the necessary work and it showed by him doing his hammy more than once.
BTW Ben is not in great physical shape.
He has rarely had soft tissue injuries through his career but had some major hamstring issues late in the season...
He will not play again IMO.
Kane Cornes is jealous his not classed anywhere near Cousins
That means your saying Robert Harvey is not doing the work as well but he tears hammys
And yep Kane Cornes is no Cousins but we would kill to have him in our midfield. He also got a premiership medal before Cousins did so I'd doubt he's jealous.
It would almost be a blockbuster at the G first round, can't have that as it is Carlton's home game.I think we split the gate with Carlton anyhow.
Cousins v Judd though, I would like to see that.
If Cousins plays for another club next year he'll be rehabitated :outtahere
Its looking more and more likely Guy Richards may be playing footy as a Tiger next year now that the AFL will allow the Eagles to retain Cousins on their list.There's still two more list lodgement dates (Nov 16 and 30) before we know properly who is available. Imagine if the Eagles had to pay another club to take Cousins off their TPP.
Its looking more and more likely Guy Richards may be playing footy as a Tiger next year now that the AFL will allow the Eagles to retain Cousins on their list.There's still two more list lodgement dates (Nov 16 and 30) before we know properly who is available. Imagine if the Eagles had to pay another club to take Cousins off their TPP.
The way the off season has gone so far MT anything is possible.
Cousins goes missing on streets of LA
Robert Lusetich and Greg Denham | November 01, 2007
COUNSELLORS at an exclusive drug treatment facility in Malibu are scouring Los Angeles in search of Ben Cousins. Sources close to the Summit Centre in Malibu told The Australian yesterday the 29-year-old failed to check in, as scheduled, on Monday.
They say they are worried for his safety. "No one has any idea where he is," said a person with knowledge of the situation. "He's got everyone freaking out because LA's not a good place to be out doing what he may be doing. I just hope nothing bad happens to him."
The fallen West Coast Eagle, who is battling addiction to cocaine as well as methamphetamines - one of the toughest drugs to kick, according to experts - arrived in Los Angeles on Saturday morning and was picked up at the airport by two mystery blonde women in a Mercedes-Benz sports car.
Friends Cousins made from his last stay at the $3300-a-day Summit Centre who are recovering drug addicts have left messages on his phone offering to pick him up and pleading for him to check in to the facility. But they say he has not been answering his phone or returning their calls.
http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,22682797-5012432,00.html
No surprise the AFL wants Cousins out for good but where was the AFL in other previous incidences by Ben and others which "brought the game into disrepute". A Pie springs to mind :whistle. If the AFL are going to bar Cousins then the Eagles could be on the receiving end of punishment too for turning a blind eye for so long at drug problems within their club.
Interesting article by Damien Barrett this morning in the Hun. As well as saying there's 3 players per club on average with a drug problem, he seems to have one young player clearly in mind without mentioning his name.
No guessing and posting names please btw.
http://www.heraldsun.news.com.au/footy/common/story_page/0,8033,22694038%255E20322,00.html
That's why all these injunctions are useless. The players involved are known anyhow.No surprise the AFL wants Cousins out for good but where was the AFL in other previous incidences by Ben and others which "brought the game into disrepute". A Pie springs to mind :whistle. If the AFL are going to bar Cousins then the Eagles could be on the receiving end of punishment too for turning a blind eye for so long at drug problems within their club.
Interesting article by Damien Barrett this morning in the Hun. As well as saying there's 3 players per club on average with a drug problem, he seems to have one young player clearly in mind without mentioning his name.
No guessing and posting names please btw.
http://www.heraldsun.news.com.au/footy/common/story_page/0,8033,22694038%255E20322,00.html
yeh found that an interesting article myself, im sure most know who he was referring to :shh
this is the problem most know within the inner sanctum know whats going on and with whom.
That's why all these injunctions are useless. The players involved are known anyhow.No surprise the AFL wants Cousins out for good but where was the AFL in other previous incidences by Ben and others which "brought the game into disrepute". A Pie springs to mind :whistle. If the AFL are going to bar Cousins then the Eagles could be on the receiving end of punishment too for turning a blind eye for so long at drug problems within their club.
Interesting article by Damien Barrett this morning in the Hun. As well as saying there's 3 players per club on average with a drug problem, he seems to have one young player clearly in mind without mentioning his name.
No guessing and posting names please btw.
http://www.heraldsun.news.com.au/footy/common/story_page/0,8033,22694038%255E20322,00.html
yeh found that an interesting article myself, im sure most know who he was referring to :shh
this is the problem most know within the inner sanctum know whats going on and with whom.
Cousins is back in Australia. Landed in Sydney. He'll continue his rehab in Sydney and also continue his training in Perth. He's back to answer the AFL on Nov 19.
Cousins is back in Australia. Landed in Sydney. He'll continue his rehab in Sydney and also continue his training in Perth. He's back to answer the AFL on Nov 19.
And stock up on bindi beads
:rollin CUBAnd stock up on bindi beads
lol :lol
From the Herald-Sun.......My opinion is posted on the PSD thread, but we would be insane not to take him in the PSD if he is available. He is still a gun player and will get over his problems (he will have to as he knows the AFL will jump straight on top of him if he re-offends).
Malibu's exclusive Summit Centre last night took the extraordinary step of confirming Cousins attendance.
Centre executive director Clyde Steele said the footy star had been evaluated by its clinical director at the weekend. He had visited the centre on both days.
"With the agreement and support of our clinical director, Ben is returning to Australia to deal with the allegations made against him and will continue his recovery efforts, including therapy on an outpatient basis."
Referring to Cousins as a "celebrity", he asked the public to understand that addiction was a "brain disease".
"Ben's prognosis for success in recovery is excellent," Mr Steele said.
The Herald Sun has been told the Brownlow medallist attended a series of Narcotics Anonymous classes in LA as part of his treatment.
http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,21985,22721418-662,00.html
he knows the AFL will jump straight on top of him if he re-offends).
lolhe knows the AFL will jump straight on top of him if he re-offends).
You mean like they are now.
he needs to get off the gear and stop causing his damn parents so much grief....He does although easier said than done as ICE is highly addictive and it's hard to get clean.
hows about grow up Ben.
problem is many ppl on drugs dont even think they have a problem, they think non drug users are the problem and have no idea on what they are missing and lifeTrue X.
until cuz can admit to himels that he has a problem , nothing will change. usually you have to hit rock bottom b4 u realise this. maybe cuz is on the verge or has hit rock bottom now
wasnt he sitting in the back seat of the car which is why he refused the test???
ARE YOU KIDDING XXX
was he not driving. man that is screwed i hope he sues the afl and the police thats crap. they have tarnished his name for what.
give the guy a break for christs sake
This technicality changes nothing IMO.Yes that's right. If Ben was so innocent, he would have had nothing to lose giving a blood test. I don't drink but I don't refuse a breathaliser.
Doesn't hide the fact that he was most likely doing the wrong thing hence his refusal of the blood test.
We know for fact he is using again..
Benny's luck will soon run out.
Yes that's right. If Ben was so innocent, he would have had nothing to lose giving a blood test. I don't drink but I don't refuse a breathaliser.
SEN saying Cousins will turn up in person to face the AFL commission.
with u i hate pigs.The cops wouldn't have done it if it was a random car pullover. They knew who was in the car :whistle.
why does he have to do anything if he was sitting in the back seat. stuff em.
imagine if they started doing that all us out there. "sorry guys im breath testing all of you in this car"
wankers
with u i hate pigs.The cops wouldn't have done it if it was a random car pullover. They knew who was in the car :whistle.
why does he have to do anything if he was sitting in the back seat. stuff em.
imagine if they started doing that all us out there. "sorry guys im breath testing all of you in this car"
wankers
with u i hate pigs.The cops wouldn't have done it if it was a random car pullover. They knew who was in the car :whistle.
why does he have to do anything if he was sitting in the back seat. stuff em.
imagine if they started doing that all us out there. "sorry guys im breath testing all of you in this car"
wankers
i know a csi pig fronm geelong
he told me all the story
the pigs buggered up pure and simple, i should pm u the details
well im waiting buddy.
let me know what ur copper mate sa
well im waiting buddy.
let me know what ur copper mate sa
then let me know Daniel.
I enjoy reading condensed crap.
The LAPD won't announce if they're charging Cousins until after his AFL commission hearing on Monday.
http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,21985,22769051-663,00.html
The most interesting comment Miller made about Cousins today was what he didn't say. No mention at all that we wouldn't pick him up in the PSD. It was all it's up to the AFL what they decide and we would need to consult all the Club's stakeholders.
LOL Cousins raking up 50 possessions every week for Coburg :eyebrow
Do they drug test at VFL level?
well we can't now ... banned for 1 year ...
You're right Ox. The LAPD have decided not to charge Cousins. The only thing they could have pinged him for was drug use which would have only meant a court would have sent him to rehab anyway.The LAPD won't announce if they're charging Cousins until after his AFL commission hearing on Monday.
http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,21985,22769051-663,00.html
How can u be charged for Binging,FFS!!!
More media crapola kiddies.
FYI,There is no law enabling LAPD to charge an individual for, "Binging"
Nothing in the pocket - Nothing to charge.
Ben could,for example,simply say his drink was spiked...which i think it probably was.
Cuzz is a very cunning,astute character who was lived on the opther side of the law for most of his life.
They wont be charging him with anything.
Why.
Because he is adhering to the Law(s) "They" put in place.
There is a part of me that feels for Benny.
I mean over the years there have been others that have IMHO bought the game into as much if not more "disrepute" than Benny - who's greatest crime is being an idiot and ruining his own life.
Let me see IIRC there was one F Gehrig who urinated on a female at a nightclub - not onlt did his club ignore it but so too did the AFL. Then there was another Fraser who played for Carlton who clocked someone because they were looking at him. IIRC that one ended up in court and Fraser B got a bond. Again the league did nothing
There was Didak in 2007 - and he received no punishment from the league.
One could go on but why bother ??? It seems to me that the AFL should have done something earlier, didnt and are making up for it now. They are stuck with an illicit drugs policy (3 strikes) that let's people get away with doing drungs not once but 3 times before they will do anything. It's crazy
Once more they (the AFL) have shown they have different rules for very different fools
There is a part of me that feels for Benny.Yep well said WP :clapping.
I mean over the years there have been others that have IMHO bought the game into as much if not more "disrepute" than Benny - who's greatest crime is being an idiot and ruining his own life.
Let me see IIRC there was one F Gehrig who urinated on a female at a nightclub - not onlt did his club ignore it but so too did the AFL. Then there was another Fraser who played for Carlton who clocked someone because they were looking at him. IIRC that one ended up in court and Fraser B got a bond. Again the league did nothing
There was Didak in 2007 - and he received no punishment from the league.
One could go on but why bother ??? It seems to me that the AFL should have done something earlier, didnt and are making up for it now. They are stuck with an illicit drugs policy (3 strikes) that let's people get away with doing drungs not once but 3 times before they will do anything. It's crazy
Once more they (the AFL) have shown they have different rules for very different fools
I reckon the AFL acted this time around to get the Federal Government off their back.
True FFV.
I reckon the AFL acted this time around to get the Federal Government off their back.
Yeah probably true to some extent, but I reckon the ban is also in Cousins's best interests, health-wise. So I guess the AFL are due some credit for that, even if their intentions are not entirely pure.
Hard to believe he won the Brownlow medal for Best and Fairest in the comp in only 2005.
It's been some fall from grace in two years..
that is exactly right tiga.
he would've been better off testing positive.
how ridiclulous does that sound.
test positive and u can play...dont test positive and u cant.
they r fools
A Current Affair last night has taken over Cousins-watch on the Gold Coast.
http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,22827045-5012432,00.html
A Current Affair last night has taken over Cousins-watch on the Gold Coast.
http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,22827045-5012432,00.html
AT the end of a harrowing year, Ben Cousins has flown back to Perth with a special Christmas message: "I hope you get run over by a f...ing car."
Looking strong and fit, Cousins has been training daily in Sydney to leave the door open for a return to the AFL in 2009.
http://www.heraldsun.news.com.au/footy/common/story_page/0,8033,22964896^20322,00.html
Cousins still wants to return to AFL footy in 2009 :juggle.QuoteAT the end of a harrowing year, Ben Cousins has flown back to Perth with a special Christmas message: "I hope you get run over by a f...ing car."
Looking strong and fit, Cousins has been training daily in Sydney to leave the door open for a return to the AFL in 2009.
http://www.heraldsun.news.com.au/footy/common/story_page/0,8033,22964896^20322,00.html
Apparently Cousins is going to announce he's entering rehab again but this time sponsored by the boxing industry instead of two blondes from California.And with Mike Tyson as his mentor! Should help balance him out nicely. ::)
Cuzz will be all ears :whistleApparently Cousins is going to announce he's entering rehab again but this time sponsored by the boxing industry instead of two blondes from California.And with Mike Tyson as his mentor! Should help balance him out nicely. ::)
Scoring Cousins(pardon the Pun) would be a HUGE win for any club.
The guy is a champion.
I'd sign him@ 30 before most 20 year olds.
But its just another case of the RFC being stuffed in the ars by the greek turd.
I dont understand why we cant have first choice when he comes back...and he will.
isnt he a cypriot? lol
I dont understand why we cant have first choice when he comes back...and he will.
Yep his AFL career is over. Even Cousins said "if" he felt like playing footy.
I dont understand why we cant have first choice when he comes back...and he will.
It'll be a miracle if Cousins makes it back.
Ben Cousins takes first step to AFL return
Mark Robinson | June 25, 2008
CONFESSED drug addict Ben Cousins will play state league football this year, his first major step in resuming an AFL career in 2009. It's believed Cousins will register with a VFL team before Monday's deadline.
It's possible Cousins, who is in Perth, may register to play in the WAFL.
But indications last night were he was likely to move to Victoria in the coming weeks and restart his football career.
Cousins is expected to fill out the necessary paperwork to play VFL, which would include a playing contract.
AFL rules do not allow him to play for VFL clubs Collingwood and Geelong - effectively AFL reserves teams - which means Cousins will play for one of 12 VFL clubs, including Tasmania.
As of late last night, the complex situation means the club Cousins would play for is not aware of his intentions.
http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/sport/afl/story/0,26576,23918055-19742,00.html
The Australian today is saying Cousins will announce his preferred club on Ch 7 pre-game today while Ricky Nixon his manager said he won't be.
He'll have urine testing 3 times per week and hair testing 4 times per year by AFL testers.
Anyone know why hair testing?Hair testing is considered accurate and can go back as far as 90 days. As hair grows out, any drugs used are encased in the hair shaft. Longer hair can reveal an individual's drug history spanning a longer period than shorter hair. Human hair grows an average of .5 inches/month, which corresponds to 30 days of possible drug testing for approximately every .5 inch. Testing laboratories generally require between 0.5 and 1.5 inches for testing. This represents approximately 30 to 90 days of drug use.
Thanks MT, if he starts to sport a shaved head then it would be a fair guess that something is not quiet right.
Thanks MT, if he starts to sport a shaved head then it would be a fair guess that something is not quiet right.
Thanks MT, if he starts to sport a shaved head then it would be a fair guess that something is not quiet right.
I will use this to make it look like I know what I'm talking about.
That's a cliffhanger of a poll. Come on people, keep on voting:
Question: Would you pick up Cousins in the PSD? Yep definitely 22 (41.5%)
Only if no one else was available 4 (7.5%)
No way 22 (41.5%)
Undecided 5 (9.4%)
Total Voters: 50
I will not talk about this low life anymore.
He just ain't worth the time.
Poor Benstuff Ben!
I second that.Poor Beneff Ben!
Not happy Saint fans ;)
http://www.saintsational.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=48835&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=50 (http://www.saintsational.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=48835&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=50)
He'll be a major plus for whoever gets him
Expensive haircut if he doesn't get picked up by anyone. Cost him a few $100k in footy earnings :whistle.
I honestly felt that Ben didn't deserve to play AFL ever again, maybe even a bit of apathy.I watched the clip and it showed a champion footballer unlike that one walking about today. Someone who took what he did as an easy fix.
Up until about 5 mins ago when i ultimitely realised that :
Yes he has stuffed up big
But
We all deserve a second chance to prove our worth, Don't we ?
We are all human and nobody is perfect.
Compassion is something severely under valued these days.
Watch the clip and you might understand where i am coming from.
http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=y6llaeXuWd8&feature=related
Good luck Ben !!
I honestly felt that Ben didn't deserve to play AFL ever again, maybe even a bit of apathy.I watched the clip and it showed a champion footballer unlike that one walking about today. Someone who took what he did as an easy fix.
Up until about 5 mins ago when i ultimitely realised that :
Yes he has stuffed up big
But
We all deserve a second chance to prove our worth, Don't we ?
We are all human and nobody is perfect.
Compassion is something severely under valued these days.
Watch the clip and you might understand where i am coming from.
http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=y6llaeXuWd8&feature=related
Good luck Ben !!
And yes all people do deserve a second chance but didn't he blow that away when he took himself down to just skin and no hair.
He has no one else to blame and I will not feel sorry if he doesn't get picked up as I think he has exhausted all before him after his little stunt.
Now back to the youtube thing it showed his good point but was he on drugs during that time to? I don't know but if he said he wasn't I wouldn't believe him.
Casue when he talks you know it is full of lies. :banghead
If he had shown just a teenie weeny little bit of remorse, I think clubs might look at him.
But he couldn't care less. He's high risk, high maintenance if he's not over his problems and he's a creep. Good footballer, yes, but only one or two years left in him.
FFS, he is just not worth it.
If he had shown just a teenie weeny little bit of remorse, I think clubs might look at him.Yep clubs don't trust Cousins. The hair and urine shananigans of the last couple weeks have turned off even clubs that were seriously considering giving him a second chance. No one will say this publicly though. Look at the Saints using an all of a sudden youth policy as an excuse while they are still going after another old bad boy in Nathan Carroll. Youth policy yeah right!
But he couldn't care less. He's high risk, high maintenance if he's not over his problems and he's a creep. Good footballer, yes, but only one or two years left in him.
FFS, he is just not worth it.
I'm with He's My Hero, he hasn't murdered or raped anyone. He has hurt no one but himself. He has paid his own way and he has served his 'time'.
The people that Ben calls mates certainly have though. And Ben has helped them to do it by buying drugs from them.
Richmond has said nothing about this- I think that is because we are still considering him. As wayne says, there's no major sponsor to worry about, but that is precisely what I think is holding our lame @rse board back from going after him.
Ben's drug abuse is nothing to do with Richmond. Why should they say anything about someone else's problem? We are not considering him.
Dan and the rest of our Tigers don't need to aspire to anything that Ben Cousins represents.
You are drawing a long bow with that one Ekto. I buy fruit and vegetables that have run through the corrupt Melbourne Market. Does that make me party to embezzlement, theft or tax evasion?
Fruit and vegies are legal tender mate. Do you know that Illicit drugs are not? I'd be especially careful about calling a commercial organisation CORRUPT too.
In fact, why should players get tested in the off season for recreational drugs at all?
It is called INTEGRITY. And they get tested throughout the whole year for illicit and prohibited drugs for sports professionals. It also helps them in later life, because illicit drugs do bad things for your body. Just ask FLO JO. OOPS, sorry you can't ask her; she is DEAD.
That's the difference Ekto- I'm judging him on footy, you're judging him morally, all I'm saying is that those morals aren't shared by everyone in society, and whatsmore, they make bugger all difference when you are streaming out of the centre square at the 'G at 45kph.
So if your girlfriend cooks you the best food, you wouldn't mind her working in a brothel because you would judge her on her efforts to keep you fed?
When my hero's such as The Flea and KB used to run through the centre of the G at 55mph the only drug that got them there was ADRENALIN, and their body made lots of that when those big blokes were chasing them and wanted to tackle them to the ground.
And I guess that you think it is ok to do 45mph in a 60kph zone in your mates car packed with eight mates?
You kinda lost me a bit there Ekto but I'll ask you this:
Yes, I thought you might get lost. The students from Dallas High school were never very good with English or morals, but the girls behind the shelter shed were pretty good, even if not pretty.
Was it morally acceptable, to you, that our captain urinated on a police station this year? Should he have been sacked for that?
Peeing in public is a misdemeanor, not a criminal offence.
I wouldn't use Kane's name in the same sentence as that drug user who will never play at AFL level again.
Peeing in public is a misdemeanor, not a criminal offence.
I wouldn't use Kane's name in the same sentence as that drug user who will never play at AFL level again.
Peeing in public is a misdemeanor, not a criminal offence.
I wouldn't use Kane's name in the same sentence as that drug user who will never play at AFL level again.
Kane Johnson was charged with, and pled guilty to;
1. Offensive Behaviour
2. Being drunk in a public place
There is no such thing as a misdemeanor. You've been watching too much American TV. They are criminal charges.
Schulz pled guilty to blowing .06 and cost the club a $600,000 sponsorship.
So can you please tell me how you separate these criminals Ekto, are there good ones (Kane Johnson) and bad ones (Cousins)?
Schulz pled guilty to blowing .06 and cost the club a $600,000 sponsorship.
Just listening to snippets of it now.Ricky is probably more concerned about himself. He's come out of this a complete dill given the way he has so poorly managed Cousins.
Nixon sounds like a fair knob.
I think the entire Ben Cousin's saga is a true tragedy in modern football. No winners here but many, many losers.
You kinda lost me a bit there Ekto but I'll ask you this:
Yes, I thought you might get lost. The students from Dallas High school were never very good with English or morals, but the girls behind the shelter shed were pretty good, even if not pretty.
Was it morally acceptable, to you, that our captain urinated on a police station this year? Should he have been sacked for that?
Peeing in public is a misdemeanor, not a criminal offence.
I wouldn't use Kane's name in the same sentence as that drug user who will never play at AFL level again.
ur so full of poo that it's oozing out of ur eyes.
You kinda lost me a bit there Ekto but I'll ask you this:
Yes, I thought you might get lost. The students from Dallas High school were never very good with English or morals, but the girls behind the shelter shed were pretty good, even if not pretty.
Was it morally acceptable, to you, that our captain urinated on a police station this year? Should he have been sacked for that?
Peeing in public is a misdemeanor, not a criminal offence.
I wouldn't use Kane's name in the same sentence as that drug user who will never play at AFL level again.
ur so full of poo that it's oozing out of ur eyes.
LOL, well the topic had some sort of rationality being argued until that comment came along ;D
I think the entire Ben Cousin's saga is a true tragedy in modern football. No winners here but many, many losers.
One winner; the media.
I think the entire Ben Cousin's saga is a true tragedy in modern football. No winners here but many, many losers.
One winner; the media.
The other thing if he doesn't get picked up in the PSD it becomes a pretty clear message to the other 750 odd players that there is a limit to bad behaviour
Crackers Keenan says someone mentioned to him that Ben Cousins will play at Richmond this year. As a "mature age rookie player" and will be given 8 weeks to find out if he's clean, and he'll be tested.Not paying you out at all moi, but crackers got told by "someone"? Not sure how reliable a source crackers is these days?
I'm just quoting what he said. Don't shoot the messenger.Crackers Keenan says someone mentioned to him that Ben Cousins will play at Richmond this year. As a "mature age rookie player" and will be given 8 weeks to find out if he's clean, and he'll be tested.Not paying you out at all moi, but crackers got told by "someone"? Not sure how reliable a source crackers is these days?
Poor Beneff Ben!
I just have had enough of him and his rubbish antics. Leave him to rot over in the West.
Meanwhile, Tigers football manager Craig Cameron slammed the door shut on recruiting fallen star Ben Cousins, saying 'we won't be taking him in the pre-season draft' on December 16.Funny how he only mentioned the PSD
http://sportal.com.au/afl-news-display/hislop-settling-in-61554
Funny how he only mentioned the PSD
SEN tonight has Tiger supporters wanting to start up a "Get Cousins to Richmond" petition and linking it to memberships.
Tigers rule out Cousins
Stathi Paxinos | December 6, 2008
RICHMOND yesterday declared it would not be picking Ben Cousins in this month's pre-season draft, with general manager of football Craig Cameron forced to hose down renewed speculation the Tigers could offer the 2005 Brownlow medallist a home.
Cameron said Richmond, which will be the last of six clubs to have a pick, would seek in the December 16 draft "the best talent not picked up in the national draft", but it would not be drafting the former Eagle.
http://www.realfooty.com.au/news/news/tigers-rule-out-cousins/2008/12/05/1228257324713.html
Totally agree with you Smokey_58au.
Unlike you WA Tiger I don't wish him the best as he has made so many look the fool already. So now it is his turn to have the egg on his face. I stay if he wants to play I think they have got a good comp over in America. So he could play footy on the weekends and do rehab though the week. Just the right mix for him.
But the PSD is the only way he can get to Richmond under the AFL rules.
We cannot rookie him
Tigers rule out Cousins
The latest wild rumour is Cousins was down at Punt Rd.
A caller said Nathan Carroll to the Bombers as a replacement FB for Mal Michael as Hurley develops.:ROTFL
Cousins brain is fried, won't play again. He is too detached from reality to understand what is needed to re-connect to a new club.This makes nothing but sense. And it was well written, as we all know the truth hurt, and this will hurt Cousins, cause it is the truth
Pretty sad because he can play but its a team sport and his attitude is no longer that of a team player that is prepared to toe the line.
Cousins brain is fried, won't play again. He is too detached from reality to understand what is needed to re-connect to a new club.
Pretty sad because he can play but its a team sport and his attitude is no longer that of a team player that is prepared to toe the line.
But I think that he should do the tour of schools and educate kids about the dangers of drug in sport and in general.
I would see him as a good role model for this side of it, so long as he has done the full recovery thing.
Cousins brain is fried, won't play again. He is too detached from reality to understand what is needed to re-connect to a new club
The testers are going to be visiting Punt Rd regularly if Cousins does end up at Richmond. Powerade should sponsor him as he's going to need to produce 4 urine tests per week or whatever is was. No more No.1 cuts and body waxes either :nope. It's one strike and we won't even see him in a Richmond guernsey.But the fact that he did have the No. 1 cut and the body wax is so suspicious.
No skin off Richmond's nose.Will be if we lose sponsorships if he stuffs up again.
No skin off Richmond's nose.Will be if we lose sponsorships if he effs up again.
Get a brain FFS.No skin off Richmond's nose.Will be if we lose sponsorships if he effs up again.
what sponsorships???
live it a little MOI FFS
Dick Smith wouldn't be cursing the free advertising on the front page of both papers today lol. $50,000's worth free in fact.No skin off Richmond's nose.Will be if we lose sponsorships if he effs up again.
You don't know me one little bit so don't sit there judging me
I hope he comes :thumbsupThrow in Blingers, Jacko, Connors, Thommo and Hislop too.
Foley Lids Tuck Cotch Cuz Polo Kane Cogs Bling White Edwards Brown
Just a list of the midfielders we have at our disposal on our list.
A plethera of riches. :thumbsup
Won't cost us much.Let's hope so it works out. Up to Cuz himself.
We will be seen as doing the right thing.
And if he does the wrong thing then we will have unanimous support n letting him go.
I just think he has alot to prove and we would be stupid not to do look into it and take a punt on him. It's not as if he killed a person. He harmed himself. Hopefully he has learnt from it and if Ben Cousins is for Ben Cousins and he is this egotistical twit that people say he is then he has the biggest motivation to stick it up Andy D's and West Coast's rectum and succeed at the highest level once again.
Worst case scenario Cousins fails a drug test and he's gone whether in January, Round 1 or Round 20
Tigers lose Cousins(goes on long term injury list just like polak would - elavate rookie) because his hammies can no longEr stand the rigors of footy with him out of the game for 18 months come next March. Rookie could be another Foley or Thursfield.
Next case He plays only round 1 Cousins v Judd Sell out = stacks of money gamble pays off b/c of the extra $$$ memberships plus all this media focus gets a major sponsor on board because Cousins in the news. Best case he plays over 11 games and he's back to some sort of form. Either way we can't lose. He'll come cheap and if the venture fails we won't be the ones that look bad after all we gave a bloke an opportunity to redeem himself and he failed by not adhering to the rules not us.
I agee with all of this TB except for the bit "Either way we can't lose". What if he drags one or a couple of of our kids down the path he walks? That is my concern.
I wonder if our cubs will start eating salad if Cuz orders salad :lol.
IMO it comes down to the leadership at the club. If it's solid, honest, upfront and respected as we are told then our cubs will be okay. They are united bunch anyway. Cousins won't be the leader or even spiritual leader that he was at the Eagles and this isn't his second chance either. That was what the problem was at the Eagles. They let him and others have second, third, fourth, .... chances by turning a blind eye. At Punt Rd he'll be thoroughly tested to the extreme by AFL testers and if there's one stuff up he'll be so fast out the door it won't have time to whack him on the butt. Don't forget either Benny isn't the only AFL footballer with a drug problem either. At least in his case we know about it.
True smokey but young kids aren't required to give 4 urine tests and a hair test every week plus have every nosey journo who hide in rubbish bins like Hutchy following them around 24/7 hoping they exclusively screw up to bag the story of the year, for parents and teachers to find out. Sure there are no guarantees but Cousins' life will become the closest thing to the Truman Show.I wonder if our cubs will start eating salad if Cuz orders salad :lol.
IMO it comes down to the leadership at the club. If it's solid, honest, upfront and respected as we are told then our cubs will be okay. They are united bunch anyway. Cousins won't be the leader or even spiritual leader that he was at the Eagles and this isn't his second chance either. That was what the problem was at the Eagles. They let him and others have second, third, fourth, .... chances by turning a blind eye. At Punt Rd he'll be thoroughly tested to the extreme by AFL testers and if there's one stuff up he'll be so fast out the door it won't have time to whack him on the butt. Don't forget either Benny isn't the only AFL footballer with a drug problem either. At least in his case we know about it.
Don't forget also that drug addicts don't follow the conventional path of logic and decision making that most others do. Just because he will be on his on his umpteenth chance and will be tested every whatever day doesn't actually mean squat. If he isn't rehabilitated then the risk of him influencing others, especially young kids, is very high, regardless of how you want to paint the image of mentors, club culture, leadership etc in your mind. Our modern world is full of kids from the most impeccable upbringing falling prey to the lure of drugs and the last ones to realise and/or acknowledge it are very often those closest.
Wouldn't it be hilarious if the AFL approve the Polak request, and we receive a 2nd pick in the PSD.lol
Then just to stick it up the likes of Eddy and co, we take Ben with pick 6 and a kid with pick 7.
LOL ! That would be a classic !
Wouldn't it be hilarious if the AFL approve the Polak request, and we receive a 2nd pick in the PSD.
Then just to stick it up the likes of Eddy and co, we take Ben with pick 6 and a kid with pick 7.
LOL ! That would be a classic !
Wouldn't it be hilarious if the AFL approve the Polak request, and we receive a 2nd pick in the PSD.
Then just to stick it up the likes of Eddy and co, we take Ben with pick 6 and a kid with pick 7.
LOL ! That would be a classic !
It is understood the Richmond board changed its mind on the issue at an eleventh-hour meeting held last night, which also involved coach Terry Wallace and senior coaching staff. Cousins was informed as was the AFL, which needs the Tigers to commit to a specific drug recovery and rehabilitation program before they can call out his name this morning.That's going to be fun :-\.
Sheesh Cuz' doco is going to be as long as War and Peace, have more twists and turns than a Hitchcock novel, and most of all make Benny a mint.
I wonder if Damien Barrett will make a cameo :banghead ;D
Sheesh Cuz' doco is going to be as long as War and Peace, have more twists and turns than a Hitchcock novel, and most of all make Benny a mint.
I wonder if Damien Barrett will make a cameo :banghead ;D
I wonder if Damien Barrett will make a cameo :banghead ;D
Hopefully as a prop in Joe Fazio's boxing gym.
Apparently the leadership group changed the footy dept's mind.
Well the one thing we have on our side is that Ben has a lot more to lose than we do. If he is serious about all of this then I'm sure he will pull out all the stops in an effort to remain squeaky! (My God I sound like Danny Frawley!! ARRRGGHHH!!!)I agree.
They've already added Cuz to the playing list on the RFC site.Ramps, what do you think of this new recruit? He's a bit short as a rule for AFL standards but the weight appears right. Who knows he may have a good future ahead of him with the RFC. Some people in the know have touted him as a possible future brownlow contender but I think a wait and see approach may be best in this situation. Maybe a season or two at Coburg and a growth spurt may be all that is needed to make him a future star!! :lol
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/Players/tabid/7689/default.aspx
DOB: 30/6/78
Hgt: 179cm
Wgt: 87kg
I would laugh if he goes to Avalon Airport then drives in with someone from the club and backdoor them all.
Now I would love to see that.
I would laugh if he goes to Avalon Airport then drives in with someone from the club and backdoor them all.
Now I would love to see that.
They've already added Cuz to the playing list on the RFC site.Ramps, what do you think of this new recruit? He's a bit short as a rule for AFL standards but the weight appears right. Who knows he may have a good future ahead of him with the RFC. Some people in the know have touted him as a possible future brownlow contender but I think a wait and see approach may be best in this situation. Maybe a season or two at Coburg and a growth spurt may be all that is needed to make him a future star!! :lol
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/Players/tabid/7689/default.aspx
DOB: 30/6/78
Hgt: 179cm
Wgt: 87kg
To be honest Ive been one of the few supporters who really didnt mind what the decision was. Now that he is here though, we have to support him. He is a Richmond player now, so he should get 100% full support.
My only concern is Eddie's opinion on this one. If it's okay with Eddie, well then it is just fine with me.I like that one. Should post it on the Pies site and it would go down like a ton of bricks.
Sensational news really.Thanks for the reminder. Though it is one we all should listen to. As its the truth.
for a club who has little to cheer about its great but lets not kid ourselves.
Round 1 the blues.
they were all the rage when they got Juddy. I was so convinced we would win i slammed a few hundred on the Tigers.
Surprise surprise they lost.
Lets not suffer the same fate.
He still has to be picked to play or have they forgotten about that side of it.
Not saying he wont be picked.
16/12/2008: After just a few short weeks ago seeing (finally) some decent long-term player recruiting - and giving me hope that we might just be on the road to some real improvement - we have now caved in and overturned this
policy for a high-risk short-term action by recruiting Ben Cousins.
I've had enough of this and after 34 years of continuous membership the club can now do without people like me, and this will also mark the end of any updates to this website - I will leave it up for as long as possible for anyone who may want any of the content.
Good luck to all of your who remain as club members and support the Tigers.
http://members.iinet.net.au/~dcstar/
Annoyed at the way some on this site are discrediting the recruitment of Ben Cousins ...
Ben will be an on field role model who sets standards of excellence during a game & on the training track
Will educate / guide young midfielders in the art of gut busting / self sacrificing / positional / possession accumulating play
Will drive a developing, exciting list towards a potential finals berth (look at the impetus Judd provided in Carlton’s move up the ladder)
Will give the club & its long suffering supporters a huge lift in morale
His recruitment has generated a wave of intense support throughout the football & wider community. The club are showing themselves to be leaders in significant areas such as aboriginal development/welfare (in a football sense) & now drug reform / rehabilitation ... lets face it clubs are more than just football clubs ... they’re big business & when you can gain an advantage (in a marketing sense) over your rivals you’re viewed as a leader in your field of expertise (which, amongst other things, is a lot about developing young men & setting public/moral standards)
Richmond have shown tremendous courage to take on the challenge & as a result have gained additional exposure, public support & are reaping tangible rewards with a spike in membership & potential sponsorship (with companies wanting to be aligned with a proactive / socially aware organisation)
Ben Cousins is finally the good feel story the AFL have been crying out for given recent & ongoing misdemeanours from footballers like Shaw & Didak.
As previously stated, the club have gained a massive boost in public appeal ... eg. opposition supporters have pledged their financial support to the club because Richmond had the balls to do the right thing & not be swayed by the perception they’re inheriting a problem that was going to damage the clubs brand (St Kilda & North who need all the exposure they can get are probably regretting their decisions not to offer Ben an opportunity. Same could be said of the Pies who once again shied away from bringing a big player to the club ... a player who had the potential to assist them in their premiership aspirations)
Richmond have positioned themselves beautifully ... they're in a win / win situation whichever way the Ben story unfolds ... ie. they won’t be ridiculed for giving a reforming drug addict (remember addictions are a mental illness & not just sign of weakness) an opportunity to get his (very public) life back on track ... they will be applauded ... Aussies are a forgiving bunch & really want to see Ben succeed
Similarly, let’s not forget the huge upside of having a player of Ben’s calibre running around in the yellow & black ...
Importantly, the Ben Cousins story will not be a distraction for the RFC ... it will provide the impetus for a highly successful season & redefine the status of the club as an organisation who are willing to take risks for the ultimate betterment (from a football, marketing & socially responsible perspective) of the club
Memo to all clubs (including the ultra conservative Essendon) ...
1. You had a chance to make a difference (on many levels, but especially from a football point of view)
2. You stared at the reality of the situation & froze (gutless)
3. You missed out on a once in a life time opportunity (once again, on many levels)
4. Well done to the RFC for acting & not sitting on your hands like so many others who were too scared to dare
http://www.bomberblitz.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=46456
Not sure if I'll miss David Clayton around the club, no great loss really
Not sure if I'll miss David Clayton around the club, no great loss really
Not sure if I'll miss David Clayton around the club, no great loss really
Every single person that leaves the club is a loss. Whether you agree with their opinion or not is irrelevant - the fact is when someone who has done many hours of voluntary work for the club and been a member for numerous years leaves then the club is diminished. Of course the club won't notice his absence as such but the fact he left is unfortunate, especially for him.
Not sure if I'll miss David Clayton around the club, no great loss really
Every single person that leaves the club is a loss. Whether you agree with their opinion or not is irrelevant - the fact is when someone who has done many hours of voluntary work for the club and been a member for numerous years leaves then the club is diminished. Of course the club won't notice his absence as such but the fact he left is unfortunate, especially for him.
Someone that has put their hard earned on the table for 34 years in any membership based club structure is a loss, and IMHO should not be dismissed because they ask some hard questions and attempt to give their input to improve the club via volunteering.
Hope that DC does come back to the Tiger fold after a season's ponder, because the accounts still require scrutiny with the increasing revenue stream and expenditure into the facilities.
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Mate, the club is not about a supporters hissy fit, we don't need it, we don't need him. I've never heard of him and already feel richer for it.
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Mate, the club is not about a supporters hissy fit, we don't need it, we don't need him. I've never heard of him and already feel richer for it.
What you say is right YandB but this wasn't just a hissy fit from a 'chicken poo' supporter. David Clayton has been a paid-up member for over 30 years, has spent many, many hours working voluntarily for the club, travelled interstate to every game and then when interstate often took on menial support tasks (filling water bottles, gate marshall, etc) that caused him to miss much of the game he paid his money to go and see. He was front and centre rattling cans during the SOS campaign and even ran for the board during the cancerous reign of Clinton Casey. In a nutshell, he has bled yellow and black for most of his adult life thus far. Yes you are right - we don't need hissy fits and we don't need supporters thinking they are bigger than the club but David has done the time and at least deserves the respect of acknowledgment that he has contributed significantly to our club in a positive way. The best result would be for David to allow time heal the perceived wounds and come back to the fold - after all, this has all come about because we have identified with a need to give someone a second chance - and he has invested too much personal time and effort to miss out on enjoying the fruits of the next successful era of our club.
I understand that and have a high level of respect for any supporter who puts that time and effort into the club.
But to me, here is the rub.
To me if he walks away, all that hard work and effort has now been a waste of his time.
And for what? A potentially bad pick in the draft?
Even if he is right, now is the time for him to be even more involved in the club knowing the club may need his support if this goes pear shaped.
You described his commitment to the club almost like it is a marriage - and he should be there in good times and bad. He should support the club through a period that he does not agree with - this is the time where clubs like Richmond should judge David. He should be man enough to say "I don't agree and this is totally wrong" but in saying that remain a strong supporter of the club and say that he will still stick by them.
He has a vote in the board elections - if he is that upset, he should have called a no confidence motion - anything, anything but walking away. That is what cowards do when they are in a fight.
Meanwhile, Kim Hagdorn reports Richmond has put Cousins on a one-month good behaviour trial.Didn't Craig Cameron say we haven't put any further restrictions or stipulations in Cousins' one-year contract? ???
The 30-year-old has agreed to a strict disciplinary code, with any breach resulting in instant dismissal.
Tigers coach Terry Wallace has insisted Cousins submit to AFL-imposed drug tests, including up to three urine samples a week and a hair-follicle test every three months.
His contract will be terminated if he is late to training, misses a recovery session or team meeting, or repeats any of the indiscretions that forced West Coast to sack him.
:rollin @ 105 pages - they need help
ROFL @ Ox trademarking LMAO. I better get a good lawyer.....
Spent some time in WA over the Xmas break and was speaking to some close friends who do know Ben (quite well) and what they told me doesnt damper my excitement in him coming to Tigerland.
He didnt stop while on his break in actual fact he ramped up his training but was told to temper it apparently.
He is very impressed with OUR football club...very impressed.
Wouldnt you think the media's time would be better spent looking at the Bummers. They had a reported 20 players (a record from what was reported) having operations of various kinds over the break. Thats half the team on modified training or at least behind the eight ball for the start of the season.I saw that too. Even McVeigh has only now just started running again. Bombers heading for a bottom 2 finish with half their list underdone. The reason though the media is more interested in Cousins than any of the Bombers is because Essendon is now mostly a list of no-namers and average senior players. Their spine still relies on 30+ y.o. Lloyd, Lucas and Fletcher. It's going to get worse before it gets better for the Dons and poor Knighter will cop the flack from disgruntled Bomber fans who still live in denial and think they will finish top 4-8 if you read the Essendon vs Carlton thread on bomberblitz :rollin.
Wouldnt you think the media's time would be better spent looking at the Bummers. They had a reported 20 players (a record from what was reported) having operations of various kinds over the break. Thats half the team on modified training or at least behind the eight ball for the start of the season.
they could make the [top] eight, but that's about it.''
Tony Shaw was on 3aw again tonight talking about how he wouldn't have picked up Cousins ::).its called sitting on the fence! if you are wrong you can quickly hide the fact by saying," im glad im wrong, i hoped it would work, just didnt think it would."No balls
When a Tiger supporter called in saying Cousins is going to prove you wrong, Shaw just said "well if I'm wrong I'll put my hand up". Then why make the negative comment in the first place if you aren't willing to stand by it ???.
Tony Shaw is a garbage man by profession. Hence garbage regularly comes out of his mouth. He lives and breathes garbage. If you look hard enough when you watch fox footy this year you'll see how filthy he really is and that he resembles something rotten and insignificant. If he was not Collingwood Captain in October 1990 and thus been given the sympathy vote from a Collingwood friendly media group he would still be cleaning the mucus excretement and vomit from Smith St Collingwood as he did during his playing days. Shaw is merely just another bogan who is out of his depth in the media and his acumen of putting his foot in his mouth is second to none.
Tony Shaw was on 3aw again tonight talking about how he wouldn't have picked up Cousins ::).its called sitting on the fence! if you are wrong you can quickly hide the fact by saying," im glad im wrong, i hoped it would work, just didnt think it would."No balls
When a Tiger supporter called in saying Cousins is going to prove you wrong, Shaw just said "well if I'm wrong I'll put my hand up". Then why make the negative comment in the first place if you aren't willing to stand by it ???.
Tony Shaw is a garbage man by profession. Hence garbage regularly comes out of his mouth. He lives and breathes garbage. If you look hard enough when you watch fox footy this year you'll see how filthy he really is and that he resembles something rotten and insignificant. If he was not Collingwood Captain in October 1990 and thus been given the sympathy vote from a Collingwood friendly media group he would still be cleaning the mucus excretement and vomit from Smith St Collingwood as he did during his playing days. Shaw is merely just another bogan who is out of his depth in the media and his acumen of putting his foot in his mouth is second to none.
:scream :cheers :clapping
Cousins' future uncertain: BucksEddie, Shaw and now Bucks. Something tells me a certain only 1 flag in 50 years club is regretting not getting Cousins lol.
AAP | January 13, 2009 04:45pm
FORMER Collingwood captain Nathan Buckley hopes Ben Cousins can recapture his former greatness, but says it is impossible to predict.
The 30-year-old former West Coast skipper, drafted by Richmond last month after a year-long AFL suspension, has not played since badly injuring his hamstring with the Eagles in the 2007 finals.
It was Cousins' third hamstring injury in a two-month period.
Buckley, himself dogged by hamstring problems in the final years of his career, said it remained to be seen whether Cousins could again be the player who won a Brownlow Medal and four best and fairest awards with the Eagles.
"I don't know and I don't think anyone knows," Buckley said on Tuesday.
"Ben would be fairly confident in his ability to play the game, otherwise he wouldn't Related LinksPictures: Magpies on the training track
put his hand up.
"Richmond would be fairly confident in his ability to play an important role in the next two or three years, otherwise they wouldn't have picked him."
But Buckley was pleased that a club took the plunge on a player almost forced from the game by drug problems.
"It's great for the game, we're a very inclusive sport, we're a very inclusive community and we give people second chances," he said.
"He's got that and I think his press conference straight after being drafted was fantastic, I think we heard what we wanted to hear for 18 months.
"He handled himself very well and now I think we should just let him get on and play football and see what happens."
http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/sport/afl/story/0,26576,24908054-19742,00.html
They'll be right. They missed out on Nathan G Brown. They missed out on Jonathon Brown.
Eddie, Shaw and now Bucks. Something tells me a certain only 1 flag in 50 years club is regretting not getting Cousins lol.
They got their man this year, though. Leigh Brown. :cheers
They got their man this year, though. Leigh Brown. :cheers
:lol
We've essentially gotten a 'playing' midfield coach in Cousins.
This is the guy that tutored Judd and Kerr.
We should keep him on as a midfield coach after his career ends.
We've essentially gotten a 'playing' midfield coach in Cousins.
This is the guy that tutored Judd and Kerr.
We should keep him on as a midfield coach after his career ends.
So you are saying goodbye to Wayne (Campbell) then Wayne???
You'll start Jack off already saying things like that :lol.We've essentially gotten a 'playing' midfield coach in Cousins.
This is the guy that tutored Judd and Kerr.
We should keep him on as a midfield coach after his career ends.
So you are saying goodbye to Wayne (Campbell) then Wayne???
He might have another role by then ;)
You'll start Jack off already saying things like that :lol.
:yepYou'll start Jack off already saying things like that :lol.
I don't think wayne was that excited about it MT!
Oh, you meant Jackstar, hehe :lol
Even if Cuz plays round 1 I see him playing more on a HFF rather than the midfield initially.....So, Judd on the HBF. Sounds good to me. :P
"Definitely – it's just been good having him out on the track, he doesn't miss too many kicks," Coughlan said at a hot Punt Rd on Tuesday.
"He's a bit of a Rolls-Royce out there, you know? It's good to listen to him talk about his days at the Eagles, and all that sort of thing.
"He's a premiership player and Brownlow Medallist, so it's going to be good having him out there."
"But no, he's looking pretty good and doing all the training stuff.
"The game's getting younger, so it's pretty important to have not only him, but Kane Johnson, Nathan Brown, Richo and Joel Bowden around as well.
"A couple of old heads to get the young blokes going – they need that support not only on the ground, but off it."
Every Richmond player interviewed is always going to have a second story written about what they think of Cousins.;D
We're going to use up a lot of space in the newspapers. :lol
They forgot the big burly man ;D.
yeh,and he took a poo as well....i know because when he went to the dunny i followed him to ensure he wasn't loading up :santa
yeh,and he took a poo as well....i know because when he went to the dunny i followed him to ensure he wasn't loading up :santa
If he did, I could just imagine the filthy media slime buckets stepping into the cubicle after he came out, in the hope that he might have left a skiddy that they could tak a sample of to send to their lab for testing and hopefully running a front page story the next day :banghead
leave the damn bloke alone. :banghead
I couldn't find this on the web but another day and another Cousins at a restaurant story plus a pic in the paper hardcopy too apparently...
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Cousins joined dual Brownlow medallist Peter Moore, former Geelong champion Sam Newman, Hawthorn great Dermott Brereton, and Carlton and St Kilda gun Aaron Hamill at a dinner to open the restaurant's new Palm Deck.
Cousins arrived holding hands with a woman, but the pair declined to be photographed.
she came from the west with him.
any other questions?
Not going there Darth lol :wallywink. His past history is for all to see in that slideshow email that is doing the rounds and is on the net.
I was told the woman who picked up Cousins at Tullamarine after we picked him in the PSD was Nixon's sister. It could the same woman and the media have beaten up a platonic peck. In any case if he's got a new girlfriend good on him. I hope she's another positive influence in and on his life while he rebuilds and rehabilitates his life.
No idea Ox who is the one at the restaurant. The photo on the Hun website only shows Cuz with Dermie, Sam and co.Not going there Darth lol :wallywink. His past history is for all to see in that slideshow email that is doing the rounds and is on the net.
I was told the woman who picked up Cousins at Tullamarine after we picked him in the PSD was Nixon's sister. It could the same woman and the media have beaten up a platonic peck. In any case if he's got a new girlfriend good on him. I hope she's another positive influence in and on his life while he rebuilds and rehabilitates his life.
That chick is chocos sister....is that the one ?
Nah,she's Choco Merendas sister.Okay ta for that.
Does work for Nixon but has Cuz full time.
Just more trashy journalism. Hmmm so some journo in Queensland would know a Riva "regular" ::). What a convenient unnamed source ::).
I should've known. Hutchy hiding in the Waldorf salad? :wallywinkJust more trashy journalism. Hmmm so some journo in Queensland would know a Riva "regular" ::). What a convenient unnamed source ::).
Same article was in the HUN in the confidential section - you know the daily gossip page
3aw just said Cuz has been spotted at the tennis watching Roddick vs Federer. So expect a Herald-Sun back page tomorrow of a huge pic of Cousins in the grandstand with a small inset in the corner of Roddick and Federer :yep.
Was the burly man there?
And I think tomorrow's papers willpoint out it looks like he has had another haircut :rollin
"He's really positive and upbeat and he's a good player to have at our club because he does all the right things on the track," Newman said. "He's pushing himself to limits that a lot of the young guys have never seen before, so to have him out there to be setting that standard coming into a new club has really impressed me and all the other boys."If that alone is Cousins' legacy then he has been a valuable pick-up to Richmond already. If that 14-possession in a quarter (10 minutes according to Rawlings :o ) comment is true then that's a bonus too :thumbsup.
Newman, who was appointed Tiger captain at the end of last season, said Cousins' influence had, at this stage, been one of example-setting rather than taking on an active leadership role. "He sets his example by the way he goes about it. It's good to be able to grab a young bloke aside and say: 'That's how a professional player goes about his business'," Newman said. "In terms of taking a leadership role around the club, that would be pretty harsh to expect that of him, first-up, and, to be honest, I think our leadership group is equipped now to be able to take that over."He probably wouldn't look out of place in our leadership group now he's been at Tigerland for 6 weeks but it's better for Cuz to just concern himself with getting back into footy and getting his life back together. Like Richo, Cuz can set the example as an older player.
lmao
no worries :thumbsup
Good news that he has settled in etc etc.Daniel, I have the same gut feeling that history might repeat itself.Fingers crossed
Role Model etc etc
but i just wish he wasn't in the news. Has a strong resemblence to the blues and Judd in 2007/2008 over Summer.
What happened? They lost. I want to hear and see less and focus on whats important and thats the Blues Round 1.
I wonder if Richmond will get any long-term boost in support in WA due to Cousins or it'll be just a bandwagon thing?I know this is NEVER NEVER going to happen but if Richmond played a "home game" at Subiaco Oval and Benny was playing- They would go close to filling the stadium.Even if we were playing Melbourne or Port.
(http://images.newsphotos.com.au/images6/Lores/94004033.jpg)
Katie Lombardo, who used to be a West Coast Eagles fan, is now a Tigers fan (Richmond) because of Ben Cousin's move Photographed at home in Wattleup. Published: Sunday Times, Perth.
I know this is NEVER NEVER going to happen but if Richmond played a "home game" at Subiaco Oval and Benny was playing- They would go close to filling the stadium.Even if we were playing Melbourne or Port.
20000 might be a good crowd at Subi this year .I just had a look at West Coasts draw and they will be lucky to win two of their first ten.I can hear the calls for Wooshas head now.
not sure on that Matto i like your enthusiasim but even on a w/end with no other footy on i doubt if the tiges would pull a crowd of 20 grand even v the pies or dons
but hey would be good for us here in the west to get to go see another RFC victory with out catching a planeI know this is NEVER NEVER going to happen but if Richmond played a "home game" at Subiaco Oval and Benny was playing- They would go close to filling the stadium.Even if we were playing Melbourne or Port.
not sure on that Matto i like your enthusiasim but even on a w/end with no other footy on i doubt if the tiges would pull a crowd of 20 grand even v the pies or dons
but hey would be good for us here in the west to get to go see another RFC victory with out catching a plane
Dear god. That's the worst quoting I have ever seen. You two are giving me a headache. ;) :rollin
Have we sent his minder with him ?????
Another back page too for Richmond in today's Herald-Sun thanks to Cuz - "YELLOW AND BACK" :thumbsup
Just in case you've missed out on the news that Richmond drafted Cousins.... ;DSo Peter writes another article about Ben
Apparently, there's this sport called football …
Peter Hanlon
February 18, 2009
SOME readers have been complaining that there hasn't been enough footy in Sporting Life. So, just in case you've missed it, here's a rundown of the important stuff that's happened so far this year (as reported elsewhere).
'Song a hit with Cousins' (Feb 16 - Ben Cousins likes Richmond's theme song).
'Fifty minutes of Tiger heaven' (Feb 9 - Cousins plays intra-club practice match).
'Ben's sitting pretty' (Feb 2 - Cousins is house-sitting in Middle Park).
'Long lunch' (Jan 26 - Cousins goes out for lunch)
'Brown - it's not all about Ben' (Jan 25 - Apparently there are other players at Richmond)
'Cousins teams up' (Jan 23 - Ben goes out again, this time for dinner with some old people, including Sam Newman).
'Ben goes to water' (Jan 11 - Cousins goes out to dinner again, and drinks mineral water).
'Ben's big break' (Jan 10 - Cousins goes surfing).
'Cousins chukks in with polo' (Jan 9 - Ben goes to the polo).
'Why we can look forward to 2009' (Jan 4 - Because of Ben Cousins).
That just about covers it for now, with things really expected to hot up once the season starts on March 26.
http://www.theage.com.au/news/sport/barnies-make-sure-its-all-snags-and-beer/2009/02/17/1234632812081.html?page=fullpage#contentSwap1
An article about drug criminals in WA and of course the journo has to mention Cousins in passing .....
http://www.watoday.com.au/wa-news/quaid-coaccused-could-plead-guilty-to-drugs-20090218-8b0s.html
Yesterday at the Den, the only reebok jumper that is available to purchase (with no Luxbet logo on the back btw) are ones with No. 32 on the back - were selling like hot cakes :thumbsup
Actually just on Benny and the extra $$$ he's bough to the club.
Yesterday at the Den, the only reebok jumper that is available to purchase (with no Luxbet logo on the back btw) are ones with No. 32 on the back - were selling like hot cakes :thumbsup
Yesterday at the Den, the only reebok jumper that is available to purchase (with no Luxbet logo on the back btw) are ones with No. 32 on the back - were selling like hot cakes :thumbsup
Maybe they are just the excess stock leftover from the last 10 years of the Tivendale era ;)
The Club has made a $1 million out of him so how can it be bad.
expenditure:
Cousins' salary: $150k
revenue:
Membership rise: 5000 x $150 (on average) = $750k
Merchandise related: 100s? x $100 #32 guernseys = $10ks
If you include other revenue streams that has increased due to Cousins plus future gates receipt increases thanks to people wanting to watch him play, Cousins will probably add at the very least $1 million to the club's bottom line this year. That's incredible when every club has budgeted for zero increase across all revenue streams.
Make no mistake regardless of whether he falls of the perch tommorrow, cousins has been a goldmine.
Wax on. Wax off.
"A man's character isn't measured by whether or not he fails but in how he responds to it," Ablett told the Herald Sun .
"As human beings, it's through the valleys of life that we grow - not the mountain tops.
http://wwos.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=763501That's bizarre!
Ben Cousins forgot he was a drug addict after being concussed in his long-awaited comeback match in the AFL.
Cousins, who returned to the field with Richmond in the NAB Cup last Thursday, received a heavy knock to the head late in the match.
Though the Tigers confirmed the next morning he'd spent the night in hospital, it was only today that the full extent of the injury scare was revealed.
"It was like a delayed concussion," Cousins said on Melbourne radio station Nova 100.
"I was re-living or I was brought attention to things that happened 18 months ago. "
"I had a couple of crazy calls, a lady was telling me you've spent 12 months out of the game, you're a drug addict and I said, what do you mean I'm a drug addict?"
Since when was Riva a nightclub?
It's a restaurant and bar
“They said he was outstanding the way he gave his time to these younger players. The way he spoke to them about their work ethic, they’ve got to work harder and train harder. He was a real professional and just a classy individual.”Even if this was all that Cuz left as a legacy at Richmond as well it would be still be a win-win to have drafted him. Anything he does on the field which helps us win games should be seen as a bonus.
Looks like they have someone parked outside his house at all times.And at the Tulla and Perth airports ::).
insiders don't expect Cousins to fully hit his straps until at least five or six games into the new season. By then, they believe, his output could be double what it is currently.
insiders don't expect Cousins to fully hit his straps until at least five or six games into the new season. By then, they believe, his output could be double what it is currently.
:o That'd be nice. :whistle
insiders don't expect Cousins to fully hit his straps until at least five or six games into the new season. By then, they believe, his output could be double what it is currently.
:o That'd be nice. :whistle
So 62 possesions and 2 goals a week output? Yeah that's be okay. ;) ;D
insiders don't expect Cousins to fully hit his straps until at least five or six games into the new season. By then, they believe, his output could be double what it is currently.
:o That'd be nice. :whistle
So 62 possesions and 2 goals a week output? Yeah that's be okay. ;) ;D
Don't you mean 50 possies and 2 goals :lol
Would also mean he needs to play 142% of the gameinsiders don't expect Cousins to fully hit his straps until at least five or six games into the new season. By then, they believe, his output could be double what it is currently.
:o That'd be nice. :whistle
So 62 possesions and 2 goals a week output? Yeah that's be okay. ;) ;D
Don't you mean 50 possies and 2 goals :lol
Didn't he have 31 possessions last week?
I guess I'd settle for 50 possies though. :rollin
Would also mean he needs to play 142% of the game
mark my words Ben Cousins will be out of Richmond the 1st offer he gets from another club
too good to be disgraced at Richmond
thats rubbish Cousins was approached by many other clubs but they went with youth for longterm
we buy duds, rejects the rest get rid of & pay them money they are not worth
We are the retirement club :rollin
& soon the supporters will walk away & we will become the Tasmainian Tigers :rollin
thats rubbish Cousins was approached by many other clubs but they went with youth for longterm
we buy duds, rejects the rest get rid of & pay them money they are not worth
We are the retirement club :rollin
& soon the supporters will walk away & we will become the Tasmainian Tigers :rollin
Balmain merged with Western Suburbs in the NRL to form Wests Tigers in the west of Sydney
The AFL wants a team in Western Sydney
Richmond are the Tigers and we are a rabble.
What are the odds that at some stage in the next 18 months the media will report of a possible relocation of our club to Western Sydney to join forces with the Wests Tigers and create a mammoth sporting franchise.
I reckon someone will raise this issue. Our club better get its act together and soon, we could be in serious trouble if we dont.
Cuz was good today.
Shows how poor some of his team mates really are
Cuz was good today.
Shows how poor some of his team mates really are
Stop the presses.......
I agree with you 100%
So team orientated it is scary
Out of all our over 30's (outside of Richo) I keep this bloke. Would seriously re-sign him for 2010 now
I think you get a "development coach" as part of the process without the actual gving him the title
Nice to read some positive comment on this site. he is the type of leader our midfield needs. :clappingCuz was good today.
Shows how poor some of his team mates really are
Stop the presses.......
I agree with you 100%
So team orientated it is scary
Out of all our over 30's (outside of Richo) I keep this bloke. Would seriously re-sign him for 2010 now
I think you get a "development coach" as part of the process without the actual gving him the title
me and WP agreeing. :thumbsup
We can build on this.
And what about the Cuz skills, handball to a teammate , kicking etc.
Compared to JON who missed a handball target by 5 metres when the target was 6 metres ::)
me and WP agreeing. :thumbsup
We can build on this.
And what about the Cuz skills, handball to a teammate , kicking etc.
Cuz was good today.
Shows how poor some of his team mates really are
Stop the presses.......
I agree with you 100%
So team orientated it is scary
Out of all our over 30's (outside of Richo) I keep this bloke. Would seriously re-sign him for 2010 now
I think you get a "development coach" as part of the process without the actual gving him the title
boganbrogan a tough nut , gimme a break, has he ever tried to bully someone over half his size. wanna se brogan bully say a barry hall of the comp, not little rovers
brogan = wimp
boganbrogan a tough nut , gimme a break, has he ever tried to bully someone over half his size. wanna se brogan bully say a barry hall of the comp, not little rovers
brogan = wimp
A good opp for Angus to start a rep for himself.
Get him to take Brogan out and wear the 4 weeks penalty.
:lol
boganbrogan a tough nut , gimme a break, has he ever tried to bully someone over half his size. wanna se brogan bully say a barry hall of the comp, not little rovers
brogan = wimp
For the Barrett's of this world who bagged us for drafting Cuz I hoped they watched his brilliance today.
I want to know who the toolz were who didn;t want Cuz ????????Me :wallywink. Glad we got him on preseason-draft day but before that it was a no only because I didn't see us being any good in the brief couple of years he'll probably be with us :( even if his body held up. Now he and Richo are our only two quality senior players (although Joel has been alright in the past month).
Name urselves !!
I want to know who the toolz were who didn;t want Cuz ????????Yep, I was one of them
Name urselves !!
Me :wallywink. Glad we got him on preseason-draft day but before that it was a no only because I didn't see us being any good in the brief couple of years he'll probably be with us :( even if his body held up. Now he and Richo are our only two quality senior players (although Joel has been alright in the past month).
(http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t73/Froars/Football/finger.jpg)Very artistic :thumbsup. Going for the Archibald prize Moi ;D
:rollin(http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t73/Froars/Football/finger.jpg)Very artistic :thumbsup. Going for the Archibald prize Moi ;D
I like Ben.Big of you
I like Ben.Big of you
I'm not quite sure that would be reciprocated :wallywink
;)
You better believe it ;)I like Ben.Big of you
I'm not quite sure that would be reciprocated :wallywink
;)
Just shows what a bent and twisted person you are Moi
lmao.
If Cuzzy read ur rants Jak,he would give u the big miss...
the bloke has presence and can back it up.
Everyone else isga follower,crying for on field leadership,except Cotchin.
k'n oath he can, a fantastic on field role model for the young blokes he says what we all feel, "winning isn't everything. it's the only thing"...you bet it is :thumbsup
Ben Cousins is a CHAMPION
Nuff said really
I don't think it matters that it wasn't done to the crowd, it was going across the nation,I suggest he has a talk to one of the AFL's broadcasters who decided in all "wisdom" to show it ::)
Has there actually been any real complaints over this?
From family groups or politicians or anyone??
Yeah like these kids have never seen their parents or the kids at school do the same thing ::) Why isn't stupid Andy D asking Channel 10 to "please explain" and the other media outlets for constantly showing the footage?Has there actually been any real complaints over this?
From family groups or politicians or anyone??
No its the AFL perceiving that people care and keeping those soccer mums happy in the hope their kids will take up AFL as the ethics are what they should be. Those middle class conservative types who are shocked at the sight of someone giving the bird but when they don't indicate and change lanes in their Honda CRV'S BMW 4WD or Ford Territories and you beep at them are more than happy to give you the bird and give you the f word and engage in a small dose of road rage in full view of their three kids under 9 in the back. :whistle
Tonight these type of people are sleeping easier knowing Andy D has acted so swiftly on it.
3aw whisper is the playing group have fined Ben $5000 for showing the 'bird' with half of it suspended on a one year good behaviour bond.
It's up to the AFL now to determine whether they think that's a strong enough punishment.
should be an automatic selction in the leadership group next year.
whats more important, he has embraced the club :gotigers
should be an automatic selction in the leadership group next year.
whats more important, he has embraced the club :gotigers
should be an automatic selction in the leadership group next year.
whats more important, he has embraced the club :gotigers
lmao
we joked he should be captain/coach. :wallywink
The thing I do wonder though is if we should trade Ben. We could possibly get a late first rounder from one of the contenders for next year, or at worst a 2nd rounder. He'd be able to play at a successful team and we'd get the pick we need to get more talent to the club.
He's shown he clearly has a few more years left in him, we took the risk and can now reap the benefits, either in his leadership and teaching capacity, or as trade bait.
I must admit, it's not an idea I'm completely comfortable with, but possibly a necessary one if we need to be honest about it.
Infamy - I wouldnt trade him.Playing devils advocate for a minute, couldn't 12 months of his influence around the club be enough?
Cuz's value is immeasurable to the young brigade coming through. His leadership on field is immense.
I watched him in the bulldogs game the previous week shouting out instructions etc to his young team mates...encouraging them...His leadership alone on field should get him another contract for next year.
I don't know about u guys but i haven't seen a more qualified candidate for Captain of the RFC since eff knows.
Infamy - I wouldnt trade him.Playing devils advocate for a minute, couldn't 12 months of his influence around the club be enough?
Cuz's value is immeasurable to the young brigade coming through. His leadership on field is immense.
I watched him in the bulldogs game the previous week shouting out instructions etc to his young team mates...encouraging them...His leadership alone on field should get him another contract for next year.
He's instilled his work ethic and team focused play on our current kids and leaders, so the only people he could further influence next year are the new kids. Couldn't the current players carry on his work from the standard he's set this year, and pass on the required work ethic to the new kids?
Still if the Ainter's offered up pick 15 or 16 for him on the belief they would have a serious crack at the flag in 2010 would you take it?
Still if the Ainter's offered up pick 15 or 16 for him on the belief they would have a serious crack at the flag in 2010 would you take it?
Still if the Ainter's offered up pick 15 or 16 for him on the belief they would have a serious crack at the flag in 2010 would you take it?
Judd still has a lot more football left in him compared to CousinsStill if the Ainter's offered up pick 15 or 16 for him on the belief they would have a serious crack at the flag in 2010 would you take it?
NO WAY.
what did the blues offer for judd? cuz deserves better than that
its pick 1 or 2 or nothing. but then again would pick one or 2 be able to come in and keep teaching the team and club how it should be done.,,,no
we need a guy like cuz, he is an onfield coach and someone all the kids we have can learn from.
til now, our young players have had absolutely no one to be able to teach them the way, not even richo
cuz should stay as long as his body allows him too, hope he plays til 37
Silly discussion, really. What club in their right mind would offer any sort of pick for a 31 year old with a suspect body and background? Sure, he's a gun, but let's get real.
Still if the Ainter's offered up pick 15 or 16 for him on the belief they would have a serious crack at the flag in 2010 would you take it?
I thought list management was now controlled by Craig Cameron, not the incoming coach
So why do we have to wait for a new coach to decide on the future of some of our players, especially extending contracts.
Just wondering any comments on Cuz's game. As usual good hard running and he did get a lot of the ball but some of his disposal put our players under the pump severely. The running around the back for a cheap stat came unstuck a few times too.
Just wondering any comments on Cuz's game. As usual good hard running and he did get a lot of the ball but some of his disposal put our players under the pump severely. The running around the back for a cheap stat came unstuck a few times too.
It appears more and more likely from the Club's comments that Cuz and Richo will be the only 30 year olds around next year. Cuz you would think will get a pay rise with his new one-year contract which will help push our TPP up to the 92.5% minimum.
The confessed drug addict is the best :lol
The fact so many are stunned by his dedication,leadership and teamanship shows how insipid and clueless our bunnies sre. :banghead
The only thing I want Lids commenting on is how happy he is to be re-signing on a long term deal with Richmond.
I COULD NOT CARE LESS ABOUT ANYTHING ELSE HE SAYS.
eff lids.
Another slut with no brains or ticker.
Sell the whore !!
poor little eunuch, druggo is your emasculation frustrating you is it. Always trying to play the big nasty boogieman... now now nevermind
the only sad thing is you drughead I pity your need to spit out venom at the players , there some deep seated problems there!
lol@ suburban psychologists
Deep SEATED,eh ???
Ever heard of full stops and correct grammar ?
It helps when ur trying to play a higher spirit.
How stupid r u....? and ur not on drugs - :wallywink :rollin
As I used to yell at the top of my lungs to Danny Frawley when Clinton King went near the ball
"Get him off.."
Take this guy off the forum. Adds less then an injured Daniel Wells.
He wants to stick around too. :shh
perhaps he will end up having a profound effect on this club in the future, could be one of our better moves in recent years.
BEN Cousins will be part of the Sports Success Panel at the Herald Sun Melbourne Career Expo. Cousins will speak about the ups and downs of fame.Cuz was a no show to this panel today and given today is the players day off Richmond didn't know where Cuz was either.
QuoteBEN Cousins will be part of the Sports Success Panel at the Herald Sun Melbourne Career Expo. Cousins will speak about the ups and downs of fame.Cuz was a no show to this panel today and given today is the players day off Richmond didn't know where Cuz was either.
Apparently Cuz's dad Brian flew into Melbourne today to sit down with Cuz and his manager Ricky Nixon to talk about Ben's future.
That is interesting because SEN must have added to or changed their report lol.QuoteBEN Cousins will be part of the Sports Success Panel at the Herald Sun Melbourne Career Expo. Cousins will speak about the ups and downs of fame.Cuz was a no show to this panel today and given today is the players day off Richmond didn't know where Cuz was either.
Apparently Cuz's dad Brian flew into Melbourne today to sit down with Cuz and his manager Ricky Nixon to talk about Ben's future.
Interesting, because SEN mentioned that the panel were told that Ben had a fitness test this morning, which is why he couldn't attend.
Brownlow in 2011 :gotigers
Cuz will play his 250th next week against Sydney (his 12th game for us) :clapping.
O'Loughlin plays his 300th btw.
We just won our last one lol.Cuz will play his 250th next week against Sydney (his 12th game for us) :clapping.
O'Loughlin plays his 300th btw.
Milestone games. Gotta love them.
Congratulations to Cousins.Welcome to OER, IB!
Did anyone happen to catch him on Nova this week? I missed it and its not on the website. Would be interesting to hear what he had to say about it.
The best of Cuz the Tiger as he prepares to play his 250th match
http://bigpondvideo.com/AFL/198238 (http://bigpondvideo.com/AFL/198238)
Apparently, Ben Cousins will be on Nova tomorrow morning at the live broadcast from Federation Square.Cheers for that IB and welcome to OER :)
Robbo was on SEN tonight (betwen 6-7pm) and siad he done an interview with Benny and it will be a 2 page spread in Saturday's HUN :thumbsupHere it is .....
Well whatever happens we have done our best as a club for Ben. Hes going great guns at the moment hopefully he can continue in the same way and play for atleast another year or two.Ditto :thumbsup
``I wasn't born a great footballer. I've worked as hard as anyone I know my age,'' he said.A good lesson to remember for all his young teammates at Punt Rd.
Well whatever happens we have done our best as a club for Ben. Hes going great guns at the moment hopefully he can continue in the same way and play for atleast another year or two.Ditto :thumbsupQuote``I wasn't born a great footballer. I've worked as hard as anyone I know my age,'' he said.A good lesson to remember for all his young teammates at Punt Rd.
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Her eyes seems to be fixed on the waist area of Ben. :whistle
And I think we were only moments away from getting a 'Sharon Stone' look at her package!!
So she is 100% Brazilian.
Smokey,
Maybe that package should be referred to as her Amazon Rainforest.
Of course deforestation has been taking place there for years. :thumbsup
get drunk, shag hot women in st kilda
stay off the coke
it cannot be that hard
Cuz has re-signed.Signed for 2010 just to be precise.
Confirmed at B&F tonight. Ta to WP.
One year at a time. Sounds like a smart move from the club.
Not sure if this has been mention already but Kade Klemke, who we were going to take if we didn't take Cuz, has been delisted by Essendon after just one year.I think it was Nahas we wanted and not Klemke instead of Cuz, we had 3 picks in the Rookie Draft and didnt take Klemke with any of those before he was snatched up by Essendon. Just my thoughts.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/86060/default.aspx
I think it was Nahas we wanted
A top B&W pic of CuzWhat a Machine!!!!!! :gotigers
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More at:
http://images.slatterymedia.com/photography/results/?q=collection:AFL%202009%20Training%20-%20Richmond%20Training%20101109&sub_code=all
We were going to take Klemke. I have spoken to his uncle and he said that we rang and told him we would pick him but then the Cousins turn around occured. Not sure why we left him alone in the rookie draft though!Not sure if this has been mention already but Kade Klemke, who we were going to take if we didn't take Cuz, has been delisted by Essendon after just one year.I think it was Nahas we wanted and not Klemke instead of Cuz, we had 3 picks in the Rookie Draft and didnt take Klemke with any of those before he was snatched up by Essendon. Just my thoughts.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/86060/default.aspx
Just like looking in the mirror for me...lol, lol...... :lol :lol :rollin :rollinWe were triplets Wat. I still reckon I was better looking out of the lot of us though.
Just like looking in the mirror for me...lol, lol...... :lol :lol :rollin :rollinWe were triplets Wat. I still reckon I was better looking out of the lot of us though.
Well why don't we start the "Cuz wants out" rumour then? :DExpect next a story on Cuz moving into a new place in whichever suburb followed by Cuz's big housewarming party.
Well why don't we start the "Cuz wants out" rumour then? :DExpect next a story on Cuz moving into a new place in whichever suburb followed by Cuz's big housewarming party.
Might pass on the burly man centrefold poster :DWell why don't we start the "Cuz wants out" rumour then? :DExpect next a story on Cuz moving into a new place in whichever suburb followed by Cuz's big housewarming party.
Yep as well as a souvenir centrefold poster of all attendees of this housewarming. :lol
The Herald-Sun again today (pg 73) using any premise to write a sensationalised headline about Cuz ::).
You got a slap on the wrist, Cuz
THE fine imposed on Ben Cousins for flipping the bird at a TV camera in Round 10 is small change compared with the NFL's punishment meted out last week to Tennessee Titans owner Bud Adams for his one-finger salute......
Ben Cousins surgery setback
Tony Sheahan | Sunday Herald Sun December 06, 2009
BEN Cousins had surgery last week, an early hurdle in the Richmond star's pre-season campaign.
Cousins went under the knife last Monday night to repair damage to his left hand and to fix a recurring shoulder problem.
The Tigers confirmed the interruption to their star midfielder's preparation.
"Ben underwent surgery to his left hand during the week," football operations manager Ross Monaghan said.
"He had experienced some discomfort recently and the club thought it would be best to have this relatively minor surgery to correct the problem during the pre-season."
Cousins, 31, flew to Perth on Wednesday to be with family as he recovers from surgery.
He has been given up to 10 days' leave to recuperate.
It's not the first time Cousins has required an operation to fix two broken fingers in his left hand.
His initial injury occurred back in Round 8 in the opening minutes of the Tigers' clash with Port Adelaide.
He stayed on the ground for the rest of the match and managed to rack up 24 possessions.
"He is expected back at training at the end of next week," Monaghan said.
Cousins played 15 games for the games for the Tigers this season, taking his career tally to 253. On the back of his form, the Tigers signed him on for a new deal for 2010. :whistle
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/ben-cousins-surgery-setback/story-e6frf9jf-1225807321192
A poster on big footy said he had a mate on the same plane as a hand bandaged cousins going to perth. All the other 'mail' was he had gone home for a funeral
Nixon, Cousins cut ties
Herald Sun, 16-02-2010, Pg: 086
PLAYER manager Ricky Nixon is believed to have ended his dealings with Ben Cousins. Cousins and Nixon have become increasingly frustrated over their business relationship in recent weeks and it is understood Nixon ended their relationship two weeks ago.
Here's the full article....
Ricky Nixon, Ben Cousins cut ties
* Mark Robinson
* From: Herald Sun
* February 16, 2010
Cousins appeared at Moorabbin Magistrate's Court today looking fit and tanned.Obviously a vital piece of information that needed to be reported by the Herald-Sun :wallywink :rollin.
How's Cousin's looking at the moment?Looks on for a strong year barring injury by the sound of today's game :thumbsup. 22 possies in 3/4ers of footy playing in the middle.
Has had an extremely low key build up. Missed the NAB Cup game..
Just wondering how he's going and will he be ready for round 1?
Looks on for a strong year barring injury by the sound of today's game :thumbsup. 22 possies in 3/4ers of footy playing in the middle.
Tell you what this Cousins media circus is becoming a real joke and worse than Lara Bingle IMO... Fair dinkum he gets more media than the Beckhams... :sleep :sleep :sleep. Surley these reporters and the media in general must have a life, IMO Fev has been worse than Cuz and his media wagon has stopped. Geezus let it go!!!
It is alleged the Coroner's findings were leaked after it was revealed Cousins had written a book detailing his battle against drugs and giving his take on Mainwaring's death.
Mike on 3aw said Cuz hasn't been as good for Richmond as they would have hoped for. He's helped sell plenty of memberships but he was of the view Cousins didn't have a good year last year. Got plenty of the ball but he wasn't damaging with it like the Cousins of old.
Mike on 3aw said Cuz hasn't been as good for Richmond as they would have hoped for.
Ben Cousins could have led to flag
spoke to a member of the goodes clan yesterday, geez they hate the cousins clan , he told me that the whole cousins clan have been cursed cos they are coconuts
come ben, break the curse by acknowledging ur ancestory
How was it when he kicked the ball and his boot went flying off after it?
Was sensational yesterday
He along with Newman lead those kids to victory yesterday. You could see it!
Their actions simply said "we aren't losing this one boys"
Anyone who keeps saying he is of no value to our club and our Cubs is living in noddy land (with Hutchy ;D)
Played a good game but one decent effort in the wet doesn't convince me that Cuz should go around again.you dont think with coming delistings and retirements that we couldnt do with just a smidgeon of real experience magic. sheesh even without delistings we are devoid of it. leadership that is.
Let's weigh it up at season's end.
Played a good game but one decent effort in the wet doesn't convince me that Cuz should go around again.
Let's weigh it up at season's end.
Played a good game but one decent effort in the wet doesn't convince me that Cuz should go around again.you dont think with coming delistings and retirements that we couldnt do with just a smidgeon of real experience magic. sheesh even without delistings we are devoid of it. leadership that is.
Let's weigh it up at season's end.
you dont think with coming delistings and retirements that we couldnt do with just a smidgeon of real experience magic. sheesh even without delistings we are devoid of it. leadership that is.
you dont think with coming delistings and retirements that we couldnt do with just a smidgeon of real experience magic. sheesh even without delistings we are devoid of it. leadership that is.
Saturday was a step in the right direction in terms of his form but I do not think that his leadership alone is enough to warrant another year on the list.
Can we draw any parallel to Hawthorns drop awy in form since premiership of 08 and the retirement of one of their great leaders Shane Crawford????
Can we draw any parallel to Hawthorns drop awy in form since premiership of 08 and the retirement of one of their great leaders Shane Crawford????
No. We are in an entirely different place to when Crawford retired.
I share Crawf's recent line of thought on Ben below.
Ben's form this year has not been of the same high standard we have seen from him over the years, and I would hate to see him go out on a sour note.
The other side of the debate, and I am sure Ben would be mindful of this, is that Richmond is reshaping its list and going with the kids.
In many ways, it doesn't matter whether they win games this year or not. Sure it does for the fans, but for Damien Hardwick and the coaching staff, it is all about putting miles into the legs of those players who might be a part of the club's future.
This is a long-term plan. Does Ben fit into that plan? I don't believe so.
http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/sport/afl/farewell-stage-ben-cousins/story-e6freck3-1225863990281
Class beats rs - You can see from that game we do have A graders in Cuz Cotch and Lids, clean and crisp in those conditions says it all.
Golden oldies are off the pace
ROBERT WALLS
Bend over Craig Hutchison, relax and breath in.
:lolBend over Craig Hutchison, relax and breath in.
Cause the preist Popelord wants to love you hutchy ;D
The title of the article should be "Ben Cousins forces media rethink" .:thumbsup
is someone jealous?
is someone jealous?
wats wrong little chubby fisherman?
The title of the article should be "Ben Cousins forces media rethink" .;D
“You’ve only got to look at Fremantle. Their personnel over the course of 12 months didn’t change that much but all of a sudden they’ve become a top four side,” he said.
“The belief in winning games and the momentum of winning games certainly propels you forward at a rapid rate.”
Quote“You’ve only got to look at Fremantle. Their personnel over the course of 12 months didn’t change that much but all of a sudden they’ve become a top four side,” he said.
“The belief in winning games and the momentum of winning games certainly propels you forward at a rapid rate.”
It seems more and more that Hardwicks beliefs are at odds with a number of posters here. I wonder how long until the movement to replace him Dean Bailey kicks in.
Back to back best games for Richmond from Cuz for mine. His footy nouse, leadership and experience is really now coming to the fore on the ground. I was one of those who thought that he may call it quits at the end of the season no matter how the rest of the year went but he looks like he is loving his footy every week and runs around like an excited 10 year old after we win which is pretty funny to watch from a footballer who has done it all. If he keeps this form up for the rest of the season and can stay injury free he'll be virtually first picked to play on next year. A huge asset to Dimma to have an assistant coach on the ground directing the young guys.
Cuz shoving it up Hutchy week by week :lol
If he doesnt play on he should stay on as an assistant coach. can assistant coaches also do the runners job? is that allowed? having cousins on the field one way or another should be what happens next year.If he's a development coach he can walk alongside a player for a 'chat' as they come off and walk up and down the boundary before going back on again. Too much to do and observe for an assistant coach proper to be a runner.
David King on 3aw just said Cousins is finished. He doesn't see what everyone sees. He's slower and his kicking now lacks penetration.
David King on 3aw just said Cousins is finished. He doesn't see what everyone sees. He's slower and his kicking now lacks penetration.
David King on 3aw just said Cousins is finished. He doesn't see what everyone sees. He's slower and his kicking now lacks penetration.
OE & WP can you please let the swear filter lapse on this one cause honestly i lack the vocabulary to say what i think of that sought of narrow minded comment.
good newsGreat news, I wouldn't be surprised if he walks out this afternoon
ben woke up this morning and is off the sedatives
I don't believe Cuz has to break the lines like he used to to be of value to the club! We bwill miss him this week and he does not need a heap of possies to be of value on the field! Some players just add to the team by simply being out there!David King on 3aw just said Cousins is finished. He doesn't see what everyone sees. He's slower and his kicking now lacks penetration.
OE & WP can you please let the swear filter lapse on this one cause honestly i lack the vocabulary to say what i think of that sought of narrow minded comment.
truth hurts pal doesn't it.
got nothing do with yesterday read my earlier posts Cuz should not play beyond this season. His on field job is done. Off field he would be very handy.
he doesnt break the lines as he used to and it must be the for the very first time i agree with King, his kicking is lacking.
yes the players look up to him but they will still look up to him if he is floating around the club employed off field.
we need to look after his well being first and foremost but on field he is finished as a footballer.
Why does everyone think that cause Ben Cousins can't play to his Brownlow form he doesn't warrant a spot in our side.
Its not rocket science to observe that he isn't the leagues best player any more. But what gain does the club have delisting Cousins, losing his leadership and mental and physical skills that he srtill posses for someone who isn't ready for AFL football and fast tracking their development by a year.
Cousins weave through traffic in the MCC members fwd flank wing was classy and shows he warrants a spot if he can sustain it all year.
Who should take Bens spot in the 22 next year? Justin Westoff?
If Ben's body and off field problems are under control Cousins is in our best 10-12 players.
If you think otherwise you have rocks in your head.
yeah while that is true what example is setting for our younger playersIt appears as though mixing 'uppers' with 'downers' is a common practice among AFL players! Also, i don't but into the 'recovering drug addict' spiel either as recovering drug addicts are often prescribed a raft of prescription medicines so as to ease the severity of withdrawl symptoms and to minimise the chances of relapse!
okay to mix uppers with downers. Dont worry if your a recovering addict its still okay to mix a bit of this with a bit of that.
sorry dont buy that he needs to hold a spot to be of value. The same value can be achieved if he were employed in an off field role.
I personally hope he sees the light and the RFc see the light and his career is over come seasons end.
we are not a charity case down there and pope you are wrong champ.
by your theory we should hold onto to Simmo too for another year as Vickers aint ready for that number 2 spot and he needs time to develop.
he aint our future like Simmo wasn't.
Cuz will provide more value off field.
yeah while that is true what example is setting for our younger playersIt appears as though mixing 'uppers' with 'downers' is a common practice among AFL players! Also, i don't but into the 'recovering drug addict' spiel either as recovering drug addicts are often prescribed a raft of prescription medicines so as to ease the severity of withdrawl symptoms and to minimise the chances of relapse!
okay to mix uppers with downers. Dont worry if your a recovering addict its still okay to mix a bit of this with a bit of that.
sorry dont buy that he needs to hold a spot to be of value. The same value can be achieved if he were employed in an off field role.
I personally hope he sees the light and the RFc see the light and his career is over come seasons end.
we are not a charity case down there and pope you are wrong champ.
by your theory we should hold onto to Simmo too for another year as Vickers aint ready for that number 2 spot and he needs time to develop.
he aint our future like Simmo wasn't.
Cuz will provide more value off field.
Who should take Bens spot in the 22 next year? Justin Westoff?
I believe that the whole Cousin's thing this year has shown how much we have improved at handling delictae matters! Also, if alot of players are taking sleeping tablets after the game then surely the clubs should look at their after match routine a little better?
Who should take Bens spot in the 22 next year? Justin Westoff?
Why choose him Pope?
Could be any young player who gets the opportunity to play the role Cousins is currently.
What if it's a young bloke like Contin? What if it's next year's draftee who's the next BC for the next 10 years?
We won't miss Cousins anywhere near as much as some suggest. He's clearly at the end of the line IMO.
One door closes and another one opens.
spot on mate
Cuz needs to let go come seasons end for the good and benefit of the club.
Ten games for 20+ touches a game.
Good enough to be in our best side. Should play on.
Well ahead of polo, hislop, mcmahon, contin types.
yeah while that is true what example is setting for our younger players
okay to mix uppers with downers. Dont worry if your a recovering addict its still okay to mix a bit of this with a bit of that.
sorry dont buy that he needs to hold a spot to be of value. The same value can be achieved if he were employed in an off field role.
I personally hope he sees the light and the RFc see the light and his career is over come seasons end.
we are not a charity case down there and pope you are wrong champ.
by your theory we should hold onto to Simmo too for another year as Vickers aint ready for that number 2 spot and he needs time to develop.
he aint our future like Simmo wasn't.
Cuz will provide more value off field.
Cousins prescenes helps each player stand 5cm taller
He also spoke to supporters in the social club after the gane
He also spoke to supporters in the social club after the gane
and said...
Cousins prescenes helps each player stand 5cm taller
Sorry but this is garbage Pope.
Was happy that we have pushed west coast to the bottom.Was the bold said tongue in cheek? The Perth media would run with it he meant it.
wants to make the most of the remaining games this year..
Crowd loved him.
Was very relaxed and very happy.
said he was like an 8yo watching the game in the race
He also spoke to supporters in the social club after the gane
* was asked if he would like to get involve in coachin. Said that early in his career he would have said NO WAY but now he's change his view since he's been at Richmond. Being involved in helping the development of the players has been something he's really enjoyed and would like to reamin involved going forwardInteresting and good news for our cubs if he'd like a development coaching role.
Said it before but regardless of whether he is playing next year he should be contracted to the club as a specialist/skills coach.
Another club I mean as in an assisstant coaching role. WCE would prob throw a bucket load at him with maybe mumours to be the man in waiting under Worsfold in 2-3 years time.
That Jimmy Bartel didn't win is a blight on humanity.
Dale Thomas... lol
I find it hard to believe that this rule is going to make the difference.Could just be a scapegoat
I find it hard to believe that this rule is going to make the difference.Could just be a scapegoat
“I think what we’ve had with four interchange players is it’s allowed you to play guys a little bit older but the speed of the game can also take that away.
I will repeat what i have said many times
Retire him at your peril Tigers - we need him, those kids need him
off field issues might be the telling thing ;)
watching the replay I loved the way he was in martins ear when they were walking the boundary line after martin kicked the sealer, this bloke is a massive influence
ironic how delisting Ben would be seen as the biggest mistake of the new admin by supporters and his team mates.
Hardwick is being pathetic in his answers regarding the situation.
Clearly there is no sense of urgency to lett been know he is at least pleasing the heirachy woth his performances and attitiude.
If Cuz is fired it will be for all the wrong,BS reasons.
He is soooo responsible for the improvement in our midfield and is their spiritual leader.
Was our best today
Go suck an ars Hardwick !!
Coaches votes this week would suggest we supporters don't see the same things that the coaches look for:He couldve tipped one of those crows players out!
Richmond v Adelaide
8 Shane Tuck (Rich)
5 Chris Newman (Rich)
4 Brett Deledio (Rich)
4 Ben Rutten (Adel)
3 Michael Doughty (Adel)
2 Scott Thompson (Adel)
2 Shane Edwards (Rich)
1 Daniel Jackson (Rich)
1 Dustin Martin (Rich)
Not a vote for Cuz! :o
Coaches votes this week would suggest we supporters don't see the same things that the coaches look for:
Richmond v Adelaide
8 Shane Tuck (Rich)
5 Chris Newman (Rich)
4 Brett Deledio (Rich)
4 Ben Rutten (Adel)
3 Michael Doughty (Adel)
2 Scott Thompson (Adel)
2 Shane Edwards (Rich)
1 Daniel Jackson (Rich)
1 Dustin Martin (Rich)
Not a vote for Cuz! :o
This is repeated postwhatever the decision. Keep him there anyway. Employ him as a development coach even if he's cut. Atleast then he's busy and not left with nothing to do.
Retire him at your peril RFC
We need him
Here's Mark Robinson's The Tackle’s list from those under the greatest prssure to the least
4. Ben Cousins
Not the man him it smacked of a farewell game. I dare say if there is one, Cousins will simply smile and say he had fun.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/tackle
Any idea Of the extent of his leg injury he looked in a lot of pain when he first came off.Dimma said after the game that it's nothing serious. Cuz just copped a kick to the calf. Let's hope so :pray.
3aw saying Cuz's future will be known at least internally within the RFC on Monday.Jon Ralph just said again a meeting is on Monday about Cousins' future and a decision will be known mid-week. The media have Cuz retiring but Hardwick said the decision will be purely a football-based decision.
what's to effin decide,seriously?
Do u keep the best gut runner,grand final star,brownlow medalist who clearly has another season in him or do u keep the hislops,thomsens,mcmahons,polos,etc.
This is bull poo.
If it's purely football based then he has to play onSpot on Infamy.
At this stage he's still easily in our Top 10 players and arguably our Top 5
If it's purely football based then he has to play on
At this stage he's still easily in our Top 10 players and arguably our Top 5
I've wondered if he would play for coburg if he was delisted?
mail around is that he might retire tomorrow?
mail around is that he might retire tomorrow?
And he wanted to retire at the start of the year, thus his lack lustre pre season
mail around is that he might retire tomorrow?
And he wanted to retire at the start of the year, thus his lack lustre pre season
mail around is that he might retire tomorrow?
And he wanted to retire at the start of the year, thus his lack lustre pre season
Incorrect Jack, he wanted to finish football positively. He's done that now, up until only recently has he recaptured the form many said he wouldn't, so he can retire in peace.
mail around is that he might retire tomorrow?
And he wanted to retire at the start of the year, thus his lack lustre pre season
Incorrect Jack, he wanted to finish football positively. He's done that now, up until only recently has he recaptured the form many said he wouldn't, so he can retire in peace.
Correct actually, he had a few issues at the start of the year , to his credit ,he has had a great 6-8 weeks
I'm glad you've responded I know your wrong here lol issues aside he still wanted to play football at RFC. It doesn't matter it's all ended on a win-win for both parties now, glad he mentioned about developing players going forward.
the press conference today made it seem as though Cuz has always been a Richmond player.
Anyone who cares to assess his tenure as wrong is a fool.
Midfield coach and eventually Head coach.
These kids will give there all for BC.
Sign him now
I'm glad you've responded I know your wrong here lol issues aside he still wanted to play football at RFC. It doesn't matter it's all ended on a win-win for both parties now, glad he mentioned about developing players going forward.
prove him wrong, dont just tell him. show your hand :lol
Man! Spewin! Good luck Cuz, sometimes you can just pick a good bloke on meeting them once.
You did as much for us as we did for u, u r a Tiger :clapping
Terry Wallace: It was help for someone in life
Sam Edmund
Herald Sun
August 17, 2010 9:14PM
Seems to me like some more revisionist history from the Tanned One. Would it not have been more like ..... "Can this bloke help me save my career if I convince the Board to get him to Richmond?" "How can I spin this so that the Board will find it an acceptable risk?"
Gullibility level?
I thought so too!
was in rooms after the game, he will play next week :thumbsupGood to hear Jack.
thanks for the confirmation ! :clapping :lol
Can confirm that he will be playing this week. :thumbsup
just heard on Foxtel AFL 360 program David King "I would like to put an end to people claiming they were the ones who wanted Cuz at punt Road"If true that would explain Craig Cameron saying the day before Cuz was drafted that we wouldn't be picking him up.
he went on to say it was decided 24 hours by us the coaching staff that he would not be selected but in the next 24 hours it was a "player revolt" led by newy who called the tanned one and together with the other players asked for the signing of Cuz.
David King claims it was the players not "anyone else" which is the reason why he played with us.
so much for it being the tanned one's decision. Give me a spell.
WITH a hobehind voice,
Dont know why caro writes this rubbish.
Several hospital sources have told The Age in recent weeks they believed Cousins's symptoms were compatible with those of gamma-hydroxybutyrate, an illegal drug which was taken by Hawthorn's Travis Tuck last Friday night and rendered him unconscious.the first bold part is Caro's standard modus operandi these days to justify her stories ::). She could have asked the cleaners for gawd's sake. The "they believed" line is laughable. Hey who needs to do specific medical tests when you can just "believe" something to be :stupid. In any case what the hell has Cuz's hospital stay got to do with Travis Tuck.
They'll have Cuz running to be PM next :whistle
You miss the point guys, he's available again :wub
:rollin
You miss the point guys, he's available again :wub
:rollin
blokes are always available,ffs :cheers
:cuddles all right then lol :cuddlesYou miss the point guys, he's available again :wub
:rollin
blokes are always available,ffs :cheers
RECENTLY retired Richmond onballer Ben Cousins starts the next phase of his life when he makes his debut on Channel 7's Game Day Prime Time today at 7.30pm. The controversial footballer said he was looking forward to talking footy from the other side....Cuz did well last night on the show. Looks like he'll be involved in some way with the RFC in 2011 too.
Source: Herald-Sun, pg 85
Looks like he'll be involved in some way with the RFC in 2011 too.
Looks like he'll be involved in some way with the RFC in 2011 too.
Unofficially.
Good to hear him say he's trying to maintain some sort of structure and has started running again already.
TROUBLED ex-footballer Ben Cousins has been benched as Nova footy expert.that is a bummer cuzzy come back to tiger land and help teh new boys (conca) preform like you
The self-confessed drug addict and retired Tiger won't be back next year, after network bosses did not renew his contract.
Hawk hunk Luke Hodge will step into Cousins' shoes in the Monday morning slot.
Nova general manager Sam Thompson said the move had nothing to do with Cousins' very public fall from grace and battles with drugs.
"Ben has been so professional the whole time he has been with us and is a fabulous person to work with," she said.
"The way we've always done the footy section of the show is to have current players reporting, who is actually experiencing the games and can tell it how it actually was."
Hodge will share the mike with Collingwood's Dale Thomas.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/entertainment/confidential/ben-cousins-dropped-from-nova-team/story-e6frf96x-1225968677762
Am I the only one in OER land who after watching the Ben Cousins documentary just lost all interest in him.
I just want to forget the Cousins era. It was an absolute soul destroying debacle. 11 wins in 44 games.
Having said that-I do have a good feeling about the future.
Am I the only one in OER land who after watching the Ben Cousins documentary just lost all interest in him.
I just want to forget the Cousins era. It was an absolute soul destroying debacle. 11 wins in 44 games.
Having said that-I do have a good feeling about the future.
bought an extra 10,000 members to the club, :thumbsup
I found it fascinating, that someone could bring himself out of an abyss of hell and turn his life aroundI have his book and was amazed at the depth of his addiction! However, i wonder how people with the same addiction go about rehabilitation when they do not have the financial or family resources that Cuz had! Maybe he could a foundation for such cases?
Drugs and other addictions are bloody hard to get over [says she who gave up the smokes for two years and is now back on them] :banghead
He increased membership for the club, had a few ups and downs while he was here, but for me it was a positive and not a negative, because the club in itself managed the whole saga well IMO, for a change.
It didn't hurt the club's reputation - in fact, I think they got a lot of credos out of having him here
And Ben, well, it's up to him now on his own, but he got a good kickstart back to good health and lifestyle by being with us IMO.
I wish him well
From Hutchy's twitter...
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That wanker probably moved the book there himself
His dad is a Canadian wizard that's into UFOs so it's no surprise
Good luck, BenDitto.
It was never going to be easy but I hope you can get through all this :-)
Good luck, BenDitto.
It was never going to be easy but I hope you can get through all this :-)
It sounds like he returned to Perth for work opportunities (in mining) but not sure if that was the best thing for what he is dealing with given Perth was the environment where it all went downhill. He appeared to be finding some sense of normality in life in Melbourne looking in from the outside.
Would love to speak with brian
Anyone know how to get in contact, email etc
Cuzzy is a junkie and was while he was with our club.I'm sorry but I know a fair bit about the way drugs work in the system including the half life of all the substances he regularly took
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Would love to speak with brian
Anyone know how to get in contact, email etc
as if................
mind your own bizness,
Mining industry over there is filled with drugs, prostitutes and binge drinking. Hardly a great industry to get into.
Should be back here in a low profile part time skills coach IMO.
Cuzzy is a junkie and was while he was with our club.I'm sorry but I know a fair bit about the way drugs work in the system including the half life of all the substances he regularly took
Its fact he .
Can you please explain how he could possibly pass 3 drugs tests a week if he was on it like you suggest?
I'd know a hell of a lot more than youCuzzy is a junkie and was while he was with our club.I'm sorry but I know a fair bit about the way drugs work in the system including the half life of all the substances he regularly took
Its fact he was using all the time.
Can you please explain how he could possibly pass 3 drugs tests a week if he was on it like you suggest?
Lol
U know nothing
I'd know a hell of a lot more than youCuzzy is a junkie and was while he was with our club.I'm sorry but I know a fair bit about the way drugs work in the system including the half life of all the substances he regularly took
Its fact .
Can you please explain how he could possibly pass 3 drugs tests a week if he was on it like you suggest?
Lol
U know nothing
Still waiting for an explanation
Unless he was just abusing prescription drugs or perhaps taking substances they don't test for there is just no way. If he was back on the ice or coke he would have been done, pretty simple.
Ch 7 news said Cuz is going to be a dad.
Ch 7 news said Cuz is going to be a dad.
Thankfully the Cousins circus has moved out of Tigerland.
he may have moved on, But our younger mids learnt alot from his time there.
Move on
dont make judgement on a person like him who is a far better person & stronger than many give hime credit for.
Give his family & Ben all the support he needs. dont judge him of his faults, he proved he can play football. he needs help from all football supporters regardless of any club. he gave us many years of entertainment at its best, absolute best. HELP BEN he helped us. He gave us absolute 100% football viewing. give him absolute 100% support. l will be :gotigers
Old footballers..whatever happened to?'
How come you hate Cousins so much? ???
"I think he'd love to coach.Football seems to give Cuz's life some structure and keeps him busy. He obviously has the modern footy knowledge to pass on as coach and our cubs raved about him as a footy mentor but as the article says it's up to Cuz whether he has the commitment to coaching to make a career out of it.
"I think he'd be an outstanding coach. The problem is that is he's not quite sure whether he wants to be committed to that obligation that coaching requires."
Benny is now father of a baby boy.Not enough games for father-son >:(
http://www.sportsnewsfirst.com.au/articles/2011/09/23/cousins-delight-at-baby-boy/
Not for us as he only played 32 games but the kid could be a potential F/S for the Eagles.Benny is now father of a baby boy.Not enough games for father-son >:(
http://www.sportsnewsfirst.com.au/articles/2011/09/23/cousins-delight-at-baby-boy/
There's some discussion about it here smokey.
http://oneeyed-richmond.com/forum/index.php?topic=4618.msg277588#msg277588
:thumbsupThere's some discussion about it here smokey.
http://oneeyed-richmond.com/forum/index.php?topic=4618.msg277588#msg277588
Aaaahhh, that'll teach me to look at other areas than just Richmond Rant won't it! :wallywink
:thumbsup
I don't pray for many people, but he's on my list!Cuz is going to need all the prayers he can get. Not even becoming a father with the added responsibility that involves and requires has helped to turn his life around for good and shift him off the habit. It sounds like he's back into a dangerous downwards spiral. Sadly this is the reality of a drug habit. It destroys your before taking your life if the habit isn't broken.
Ben Cousins reportedly in mental health unit
From: AAP
January 14, 2012 7:25AM
Fairfax says Cousins had apparently been displaying paranoid behaviour while being treated after hitting his head in a fall.
http://www.news.com.au/entertainment/celebrity/ben-cousins-reportedly-in-mental-health-unit/story-fn907478-1226244176663
Dont feel sorry for people like this bloke, he has had all the help given by many. His not a fathers hole bringing a kid into the world like that & stuffing up the lives of people all round him.
LOCK HIM UP.
It's a really sad story.
The pictures and quotes in the woman's day after the birth of his son were fantastic and full of hope.
But even a loving mrs and little boy at home haven't done the trick.
Maybe time in the house might be best as said earlier????
FALLEN AFL legend Ben Cousins has been charged with drug offences after police allegedly found cannabis in his car today.
The 33 year-old was pulled over by police this morning in the Perth suburb of North Beach where he lives with his girlfriend and baby boy.
A search of the car by police allegedly uncovered cannabis and a smoking implement and Cousins was charged by summons to appear in court at a later date.
The charges come just three weeks after Cousins was charged with possessing 4.5g of methamphetamine. The drug was allegedly found hidden in his rectum at a remote West Australian airport as he was returning to drug rehabilitation.
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/nation/ben-cousins-on-new-drugs-charge/story-e6frg6nf-1226330237544
Cousins want to work in footy again.Dimma ruled it out today.
http://m.perthnow.com.au/news/ben-cousins-talks-about-the-esperance-drug-bust-life-as-a-dad-footy/story-e6frg12c-1226421810461 (http://m.perthnow.com.au/news/ben-cousins-talks-about-the-esperance-drug-bust-life-as-a-dad-footy/story-e6frg12c-1226421810461)
I reckon we should get him back. Skills coach forward coach, bootstudder.....
Cousins want to work in footy again.
http://m.perthnow.com.au/news/ben-cousins-talks-about-the-esperance-drug-bust-life-as-a-dad-footy/story-e6frg12c-1226421810461 (http://m.perthnow.com.au/news/ben-cousins-talks-about-the-esperance-drug-bust-life-as-a-dad-footy/story-e6frg12c-1226421810461)
I reckon we should get him back. Skills coach forward coach, bootstudder.....
Ben Cousins is treading a very dark path. Terrible for his family.He's has been doing that for 10 years + though....
Wallace was on SEN just before midday talking about how Cousins got to Richmond. We snuck him into Melbourne and were able to get him from the airport to the Cameron's house in Blackburn for a meeting without the media spotting them. Just as they all sat down with cups of tea, Cousins said he wanted to go to the loo. 5 ... 10... 15 ... 35 mins went by and he hadn't come back out. They didn't know whether to wait longer or knock on the door to see if he was still there. Plough even thought Cuz may have jumped through the window and done a runner. Then after 45 mins, Cousins came out and sat down as though nothing had happened and he only been in the loo for a minute or two.
We dodged a ticking time bomb & reckon Dimma couldn't get him out of there quick enough once he took over as coach.
We dodged a ticking time bomb & reckon Dimma couldn't get him out of there quick enough once he took over as coach.
Really, Dimma wanted him goneskis?
IIRC Cousins played one season under Hardwick, a season where he was given a contract to play that year
And again IIRC they were going to offer him another contract to keep going but Ben decided to retire
So I'm not sure how anyone can claim Hardwick wanted him gone
And again IIRC they were going to offer him another contract to keep going but Ben decided to retire
And again IIRC they were going to offer him another contract to keep going but Ben decided to retire
Cousins wanted to play on of that I have absolutely no doubt. He said as much in an interview a few weeks prior to 'retiring'.
He even said in his presser he selfishly wanted to stay on. If Hardwick really wanted to keep him it would have been easy.
Anyways I was against picking us him up and nothing changed my mind whilst he was at Richmond that we should have done it.
Couldn't care less if others disagree.
And again IIRC they were going to offer him another contract to keep going but Ben decided to retire
Cousins wanted to play on of that I have absolutely no doubt. He said as much in an interview a few weeks prior to 'retiring'.
He even said in his presser he selfishly wanted to stay on. If Hardwick really wanted to keep him it would have been easy.
Anyways I was against picking us him up and nothing changed my mind whilst he was at Richmond that we should have done it.
Couldn't care less if others disagree.
I didn't say Cousins wanted to play on. I said the club was going to offer him another contract to play but he chose to retire.
I know this is a crappy thing to say but if this bloke is still alive in 5 years time - it will be a bloody miracle .
I really feel for his folks ...just really feel for his folks
I really feel for his folks ...just really feel for his folksYou are lucky WP. See this regularly. Great parents tormented by drug affected children. It is so common, it is unbelievable.
You are lucky WP. See this regularly. Great parents tormented by drug affected children. It is so common, it is unbelievable.
He was always very energetic and took his off field preparation very very seriously and gave it his all :rollinhahahahahaahaha that is SO funny :bow :cheers :bow how do you get to be so funny??? Teach us
Thanks mate. Love you too. :cheersHe was always very energetic and took his off field preparation very very seriously and gave it his all :rollinhahahahahaahaha that is SO funny :bow :cheers :bow how do you get to be so funny??? Teach us
On a serious note, good on him. Hope he keeps it together
I am absolutely stoked to see that footage. He should be an ornament to the game and I sincerely hope this latest recovery is permanent
I am absolutely stoked to see that footage. He should be an ornament to the game and I sincerely hope this latest recovery is permanent
I was so excited when Ben joined Richmond that I flew across the country to watch his debut against Carlton. The infamous Cousins vs Judd match . It was my first experience of the MCG .
We all know how that panned out 😂😂😂
I was so excited when Ben joined Richmond that I flew across the country to watch his debut against Carlton. The infamous Cousins vs Judd match . It was my first experience of the MCG .
We all know how that panned out 😂😂😂
I was so excited when Ben joined Richmond that I flew across the country to watch his debut against Carlton. The infamous Cousins vs Judd match . It was my first experience of the MCG .
We all know how that panned out 😂😂😂
I was there and it was rough haha. People were yelling apologies at him for us being so garbage.
On the other hand I was also there for Judd's debut with Carlton and that was magic.
Judd's move had been hyped up so much and the heading of the article the following morning was something along the lines of 'On Friday night 85,000 fans turned out to see a superstar... And Judd was there too'. There was a great pic of Richo who I think had played his first game on the wing and kicked 5 goals lol. Magic.