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Offline Francois Jackson

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Re: Pass mark for 2026?
« Reply #30 on: November 08, 2025, 05:06:30 PM »
We have free agency now to speed things along if we recruit correctly.

Our backline should have been sorted by now if gibcus came up.

Pass mark is the fitness department doing their job.
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Re: Pass mark for 2026?
« Reply #31 on: November 08, 2025, 08:55:06 PM »
Imagine praising a club for finishing below 16th for over a half a decade.


 whos praising them for anything.

Fact is after 20 years of mostly middling finishes 2000 - 2019 they were getting nowhere.

iN 2020 they clearly made the choice to totally bottom out and they have been near the bottom for 6 years.

What was the choice that was forced upon us last year oh thats right bottom out and do the hard yards how stupid are some its not rocket science.

We can be nm of the 2000 - 2019 period or we can do the hard yards and actually fully embrace bottom finishes for three or four seasons and give ourselves a chance to climb out of the mire and actually be challengers again.

Like north we will have to keep on bringing in top talent and then get the games into them. Anyone who thinks just one draft or even two or three will be enough really are delusional.

Did north have a draft like Algar. Sims. Six first rounders?

3 and 4* shortly after?

Nine players currently 19 and under prior to the draft. Arguably with decent ceiling 


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Re: Pass mark for 2026?
« Reply #32 on: November 09, 2025, 05:07:20 PM »
Imagine praising a club for finishing below 16th for over a half a decade.


 whos praising them for anything.

Fact is after 20 years of mostly middling finishes 2000 - 2019 they were getting nowhere.

iN 2020 they clearly made the choice to totally bottom out and they have been near the bottom for 6 years.

What was the choice that was forced upon us last year oh thats right bottom out and do the hard yards how stupid are some its not rocket science.

We can be nm of the 2000 - 2019 period or we can do the hard yards and actually fully embrace bottom finishes for three or four seasons and give ourselves a chance to climb out of the mire and actually be challengers again.

Like north we will have to keep on bringing in top talent and then get the games into them. Anyone who thinks just one draft or even two or three will be enough really are delusional.

Did north have a draft like Algar. Sims. Six first rounders?

3 and 4* shortly after?

Nine players currently 19 and under prior to the draft. Arguably with decent ceiling 



They've had lots of opportunity

2017 > 4 (LDU)
18 > 8 (Thomas)
19 > 8 (Serong) traded out
20 > 3 (Phillips) + 13 (Powell)
21 > 1 (JHF)
22 > 3 (Sheezel) + 4 (Wardlaw)
23 > 2 (McKercher) + 4 (Duursma)
24 > 2 (FOS)

That's 10 top 10 picks in the last 8 years, most of which were stuffed up.

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Re: Pass mark for 2026?
« Reply #33 on: Today at 10:41:37 AM »
Didn't NM  have 2,4,20, 22, 23. in 2023 and picks 3 and 4 the draft before.

You miss the point lets say top 30 picks are what you want. north have had 14  of them us 12 2020 - 2024 drafts

We got ours basically in one draft. Nm have spread it out.

North imo started their rebuild in 2020, us well despite the 5 picks in 2021 we started ours in 2024.

From 2020 - 2024 NM have had 8 top 10 picks all actually top 5 picks we have had just 3.

The real difference is and i repeat myself they have spread their picks thru all of those drafts and been able to get games into their younger  players over that longer period.
A simple look at the games their younger players have compared to us should be all it takes.

us well we have hardly participated in three of those drafts. We did not start our rebuild until last years draft. We were still going hard at a flag at the end of 2022 bringing in Taranto and Hopper.

It has cost us dearly as far as the draft goes, we only  had picks 49 and 55 that year and the following year 2023  the effects were still being felt with just picks 40 and 51. Add in 2020 where we only had picks 40 and 51. So around two drafts we have had 3 drafts with very few picks and very late at that.
Our last 5 drafts imo its fair  to say we  have hardly  been involved in three of them.

The two we have participated in. The 2021 crop is on very shaky ground and Gibcus aside you have to ask have we found a potential A grader.  We had those 5 picks 9 - 30 simply because we traded out of the 2020 draft into the 2021 draft, effectively spreading those picks over two years. our picks in total 9, 17, 28. 29, 30. 40, 51 over the two drafts.

We had last years draft of 8 first round picks but the reality is its at a cost of our mid tier and coming of two drafts with little participation.

We are quick to talk about how poor nm picks have been but we dont know about ours. Last years crop too early to call.  Most would agree the net results of our drafting since 2017 have been poor. Yet all of our picks are gunna be great with no busts.

People also discount how run down and  aged our list was getting at the end of 2020 and the drain on the   middle tier of players we had by our better ones leaving. Getting all those picks last year came at a cost that people just ignore and it was also a catching up of sorts as far as picks go..
In fact no one wants to talk about how poor our middle tier is after their departure or how kittle we have participated in previous drafts or how poor our drafting has been since 2016.

We have 7 or so aging players who are not far away from retirement or should be retired already. Our middle tier is made up mostly of players the like of Ross Rioli Ryan etc with a few decent players.

So a soon to be gone list of vets, a poor middle tier and a group of kids who don't have games behind them.
Yet people already have lost patience simply by thinking of silly time frames.

 Look at power clubs like essendon and carlton falling into the trap of too many middling finishes and not getting anywhere. we did it ourselves

Imo Nm should be challenging for the 8 next year given the age profile and games played. they may stay low one more year because of the experience/ games played profile is still a bit low.
But if you ask me they are way in front of us as far as the experience profile goes simply because they have had to spread their picks over a longer period.

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Re: Pass mark for 2026?
« Reply #34 on: Today at 11:11:25 AM »
They haven’t played finals in 10 years

In the same period we won three flags

OF COURSE they are ahead of us in the “experience profile” on their rebuild


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Re: Pass mark for 2026?
« Reply #35 on: Today at 02:36:17 PM »
I think a repeat of last year is a success. If we go less wins it's a fail and pressure will be on Yze. I think repeating last year tally should be the goal, be great for more but I'd be surprised if our list is ready to win 6-8+ games.
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