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Title: Changes for next week?
Post by: one-eyed on June 27, 2020, 07:09:30 PM
Fire away  :help.
Title: Re: Changes for the Eagles game?
Post by: WilliamPowell on June 27, 2020, 07:12:25 PM
I'd make a few but I don't think there will be any

Reckon Dimma will back them all in this week

 :help :help
Title: Re: Changes for the Eagles game?
Post by: Diocletian on June 27, 2020, 07:18:56 PM
Don't reckon we'd miss any of  Houli, Stack, Lambert, McIntosh, Short, Broad or Baker at this stage.... get Dow RCD, Balta & Chol in..hell, would even give Aarts a crack .... time to inject some youth & enthusiasm....:shh
Title: Re: Changes for the Eagles game?
Post by: Tigeritis™©® on June 27, 2020, 08:39:41 PM
Outs: 
Riewoldt (it’s time).
Ross (turns it over often - only Riewoldt was worse and gives no pressure)
McIntosh (finally gets a game back and gives nothing)
Stack (has forgotten how tough he used to be where has it gone?)

Ins:
Balta (give him a run of games)
Naish (give him a run of games)
Dow (we need an extractor that wins the ball)
Graham (we missed his toughness)
Title: Re: Changes for the Eagles game?
Post by: The Machine on June 27, 2020, 08:55:12 PM
So many are well down where would one start.
Nank and Short the only ones who looked like it today.
The midfield is being smashed and if Ross plays future games it must be as an inside mid only... not on the halfback with his disposal!
Title: Re: Changes for the Eagles game?
Post by: The Machine on June 27, 2020, 08:57:52 PM
No wonder we are struggling with the following way out of form:
Prestia
Martin
Riewoldt
Cotchin
Edwards
Castagna
Rioli
Caddy
Lambert
Graham
Pickett
Stack
Title: Re: Changes for the Eagles game?
Post by: crackertiger on June 27, 2020, 09:06:27 PM
Out: Cotchin.

When you are the captain you are meant to lead the way with your gut busting effort.. He has been spectating the contest at times which sets the standards for others. When the captain is in cruise mode we are in very big trouble. I know I will be slamed hard for this statement but I'm telling you this is a leadership "effort" problem. Half efforts to redeem yourself when the game is cooked don't cut it when you have been smashed by a D grade midfield. Hardwick knows and touched on it tonight in his presser. Rockstars that cannot be bothered.
Title: Re: Changes for the Eagles game?
Post by: crackertiger on June 27, 2020, 09:08:33 PM
No wonder we are struggling with the following way out of form:
Prestia
Martin
Riewoldt
Cotchin
Edwards
Castagna
Rioli
Caddy
Lambert
Graham
Pickett
Stack

The leaders...
Title: Re: Changes for the Eagles game?
Post by: Fluffy Tiger on June 27, 2020, 09:39:31 PM
Many out but Stack must be the First. Seems to have forgotten how to play hard.
Title: Re: Changes for the Eagles game?
Post by: Chuck17 on June 27, 2020, 09:40:48 PM
Out: Cotchin.

When you are the captain you are meant to lead the way with your gut busting effort.. He has been spectating the contest at times which sets the standards for others. When the captain is in cruise mode we are in very big trouble. I know I will be slamed hard for this statement but I'm telling you this is a leadership "effort" problem. Half efforts to redeem yourself when the game is cooked don't cut it when you have been smashed by a D grade midfield. Hardwick knows and touched on it tonight in his presser. Rockstars that cannot be bothered.

Totally wrong re Cotchin
Title: Re: Changes for the Eagles game?
Post by: Simonator on June 27, 2020, 10:16:52 PM
So many players out form must mean something else is going on imo.
Whether it's a tweak of strategy or lack of motivation ( which I don't buy) whatever, I don't know. But to me, a premiership team like this doesn't just lose their chemistry like this. Everything is poor
Title: Re: Changes for the Eagles game?
Post by: Lozza on June 27, 2020, 11:29:34 PM
To me the players just look exhausted and flat. Dusty doesn't even seem to have the same hunger and has had very little if any impact. We usually see that competitive nature from him but it's like he can't really be bothered. He certainly has the runs on the board and certainly not blaming him alone but his demeanor is certainly mirrored by a few other usually good contributors who have been similarly unsighted with zero impact.

We virtually have no players in form, sounds like the bad patch we had last season, difference being we had players out, we virtually have a full list to choose from this time. Maybe an injection of some enthusiasm might help.
Title: Re: Changes for the Eagles game?
Post by: crackertiger on June 28, 2020, 05:26:10 AM
Out: Cotchin.

When you are the captain you are meant to lead the way with your gut busting effort.. He has been spectating the contest at times which sets the standards for others. When the captain is in cruise mode we are in very big trouble. I know I will be slamed hard for this statement but I'm telling you this is a leadership "effort" problem. Half efforts to redeem yourself when the game is cooked don't cut it when you have been smashed by a D grade midfield. Hardwick knows and touched on it tonight in his presser. Rockstars that cannot be bothered.

Totally wrong re Cotchin

You keep telling yourself that Chuck. There have been multiple occassions over the last few weeks where his efforts have been way off the mark. Then suddenly to save face he does random burst efforts to redeem himself. As Captain he sets the standard for the whole team and for the whole game. If it's ok for him to cruise around during periods of the game then the others will follow his level of output. A Dual premiership Captain yes and thank you Cotch. But clearly the hunger and effort is now gone.
Title: Re: Changes for the Eagles game?
Post by: Knighter on June 28, 2020, 06:56:14 AM
I’m hearing some key players have spat it about the $ they have lost. Selfish
Title: Re: Changes for the Eagles game?
Post by: georgies31 on June 28, 2020, 08:00:41 AM
I’m hearing some key players have spat it about the $ they have lost. Selfish

I read this somewhere else any truth to this tho every club did it be very disappointing if true.
Title: Re: Changes for the Eagles game?
Post by: Rampsation on June 28, 2020, 09:16:52 AM
I’m hearing some key players have spat it about the $ they have lost. Selfish

Then its time to start trading them out. You cant have players playing like this because theyve had their incomes cut back due to a global pandemic.  If this is how they feel they should get out of our c lub and go play for Norf.

They shouldnt forget millions of australians have lost their jobs completely or have had hours cut and most were on low wages. These blokes are on huge salaries so takIng a cut wont kill them financially.
Title: Re: Changes for the Eagles game?
Post by: camboon on June 28, 2020, 11:00:41 AM
I also suspect the players didn’t put the work in when they weren’t playing
Fitness seems to be down along with attitude -
Title: Re: Changes for the Eagles game?
Post by: The Machine on June 28, 2020, 01:12:12 PM
I’m hearing some key players have spat it about the $ they have lost. Selfish

Then its time to start trading them out. You cant have players playing like this because theyve had their incomes cut back due to a global pandemic.  If this is how they feel they should get out of our c lub and go play for Norf.

They shouldnt forget millions of australians have lost their jobs completely or have had hours cut and most were on low wages. These blokes are on huge salaries so takIng a cut wont kill them financially.



Unsubstantiated at this point so should not be a discussion point.
Title: Re: Changes for the Eagles game?
Post by: Rampsation on June 28, 2020, 01:56:24 PM
Theres whispers on all forums now. Its a discussion point. Its a rumour thats been arouns for a couple of weeks therefore we should talk about it.
Title: Re: Changes for the Eagles game?
Post by: georgies31 on June 28, 2020, 02:30:06 PM
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Refresh the side with youth can't be worse there is plenty talent there in vfl.














Title: Re: Changes for the Eagles game?
Post by: The Machine on June 28, 2020, 04:11:21 PM
In
Balta
Chol
Pickett

Out
McIntosh
Ross
Higgins

Balta to allows Grimes and Broad to play on smalls and provide run from defense. Short to play wing. Chol to play forward/ruck. Pickett to play inside mid. Jack to play as a high forward.
Title: Re: Changes for the Eagles game?
Post by: Willy on June 28, 2020, 04:13:17 PM
Higgins was one of our best.

Plenty of others should go before him.
Title: Re: Changes for the Eagles game?
Post by: The Machine on June 28, 2020, 04:16:17 PM
Higgins was one of our best.

Plenty of others should go before him.

Yes- he was ok but i'm not sold on him as a player.
Title: Re: Changes for the Eagles game?
Post by: Diocletian on June 28, 2020, 04:35:22 PM
I'm not overly keen on Higgins & Baker in the same side......atm I'd give Higgins the nod on form & effort....right now he's one of the few blokes who looks like he actually gives a stuff... :shh
Title: Re: Changes for the Eagles game?
Post by: one-eyed on June 28, 2020, 06:44:52 PM
Two premiership Tigers in for scans according to Ch 7. One of them looks like Astbury (knee) from the glimpse of vision they showed.
Title: Re: Changes for the Eagles game?
Post by: cub on June 28, 2020, 06:47:22 PM
IN

Butler
Ellis
Townsend
Title: Re: Changes for the Eagles game?
Post by: one-eyed on June 28, 2020, 06:51:57 PM
Astbury with a partially dislocated knee cap. Could come good but unlikely given the short turnaround and especially if there's some damage.

Caddy is the other. All they said is he has just come back from a calf complaint so I'm presuming it's another calf.

So we could have at least two forced changes which means some others out of form who should be dropped will survive again.
Title: Re: Changes for the Eagles game?
Post by: Tigeritis™©® on June 28, 2020, 07:47:36 PM
Outs: 
Riewoldt. Ross. McIntosh. Stack. Astbury(injured). Caddy(injured).

Ins:
Balta. Naish. Dow. Graham. Rance. Garthwaite. Chol
Title: Re: Changes for the Eagles game?
Post by: 1965 on June 28, 2020, 07:52:28 PM
IN

Butler
Ellis
Townsend

👍
Title: Re: Changes for next week?
Post by: one-eyed on June 29, 2020, 10:52:14 AM
Hope the Tigers have depth — they'll need it. Former coach Ross Lyon loved to say players picked themselves. Richmond can't go with Sydney Stack or (probably) Josh Caddy for this week's clash against West Coast. Stack has talent, but seems to have lost his awareness.

Paywall: https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/the-tackle-mark-robinsons-likes-and-dislikes-from-round-4-of-the-afl-season/news-story/544c3cf0b39d57067632b93c140f640a
Title: Re: Changes for next week?
Post by: rogerd3 on June 29, 2020, 11:01:06 AM
Game cancelled.
Playing cheese platters.
Title: Re: Changes for next week?
Post by: one-eyed on June 29, 2020, 11:30:53 PM
Lloyd wants Chol (to play forward/2nd ruck) and RCD brought in. Richmond need to add some youth and excitement into the side which should shake up some premiership players.

Mind you Lloyd also said RCD has been around a number of years when Riley is only in his second year :huh3.
Title: Re: Changes for next week?
Post by: one-eyed on June 30, 2020, 12:38:39 PM
Patrick Naish, Daniel Rioli and Marlion Pickett are among those pushing for a recall.

Source: The Age (https://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/sport/afl/some-tigers-a-genuine-chance-to-opt-out-of-hubs-says-cotchin-20200630-p557gw.html)
Title: Re: Changes for next week?
Post by: Diocletian on June 30, 2020, 01:07:04 PM
The blokes who were dropped need to back it up - they shouldn't just waltz back in after only one week of 16-a-side scratch match footy against kids, fringe players & list cloggers... :shh
Title: Re: Changes for next week?
Post by: taztiger4 on June 30, 2020, 02:45:43 PM
Astbury out for 5 weeks, Garthy to come in
Title: Re: Changes for next week?
Post by: Simonator on June 30, 2020, 03:57:14 PM
Step on up garthy. Sounds like he's been playing well and deserves another crack. Our defense is very small though. Maybe Balta ?
Title: Re: Changes for next week?
Post by: one-eyed on June 30, 2020, 06:35:40 PM
Defender Ryan Garthwaite, Patrick Naish, Daniel Rioli and Marlion Pickett are among those pushing for a recall to face Melbourne in a rejigged fixture on Sunday.

https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/blow-for-tigers-with-astbury-out-for-five-weeks-20200630-p557q8.html
Title: Re: Changes for next week?
Post by: Andyy on June 30, 2020, 07:18:15 PM
Noooooo

Why not Balta????
Title: Re: Changes for next week?
Post by: Francois Jackson on June 30, 2020, 09:29:23 PM
disgrace if balta is not called upon.

garthwaite. pass
Title: Re: Changes for next week?
Post by: camboon on June 30, 2020, 11:01:50 PM
Hope I’m wrong but Garthwaite doesn’t look up to it, Balta does
Title: Re: Changes for next week?
Post by: Diocletian on June 30, 2020, 11:26:10 PM
Supporters opinions of Garthwaite have so far followed almost the exact same path & trajectory their opinions about Astbury did at the same stage of his career.... :shh
Title: Re: Changes for next week?
Post by: one-eyed on July 01, 2020, 02:43:17 PM
In other team whispers …

— RICHMOND will ponder a like-for-like replacement in defence for Sunday’s clash against Melbourne after dual premiership backman David Astbury was ruled out for at least a month because of a knee injury. Third-year defender Ryan Garthwaite, who’s played nine games for the Tigers to date, could be considered, but the Tigers may opt to re-call some of the players that were dropped for the St Kilda clash, including Daniel Rioli and Marlion Pickett.

https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-teams-round-5-team-whispers-fixture-changes-ins-and-outs-conor-mckenna-adam-treloar-nat-fyfe/news-story/e25f60bc17835b40df3a7468d0e765ea
Title: Re: Changes for next week?
Post by: big tone on July 01, 2020, 08:50:33 PM
Please no to Garthwaite- he is as bad as I have seen at AFL level.

Play Balta- he is better in every single way.

Broad   Grimes  Baker
Stack/Short  Bolta  Vlastuin
Title: Re: Changes for the Eagles game?
Post by: eliminator on July 02, 2020, 07:01:20 AM
Higgins was one of our best.

Plenty of others should go before him.

Yes- he was ok but i'm not sold on him as a player.

Not sold on him as a player either. I hope I am badly wrong.