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Title: time to put a red line through some names
Post by: Dubstep Dookie on May 26, 2013, 10:46:38 AM
Fire away

Richmond Tigers 2013 AFL List

1 Chris Newman (vet)
2 Dylan Grimes
3 Brett Deledio (vc)
4 Dustin Martin
5 Brandon Ellis
6 Shaun Grigg
7 Matt Dea
8 Jack Riewoldt
9 Trent Cotchin (c)
10 Shane Edwards
11 Jake Batchelor
12 David Astbury
14 Bachar Houli
15 Chris Knights
16 Luke McGuane
18 Alex Rance
20 Ivan Maric
21 Shane Tuck
23 Daniel Jackson
24 Ben Griffiths
25 Troy Chaplin
26 Robin Nahas
27 Aaron Edwards
28 Jake King
29 Tyrone Vickery
30 Reece Conca
31 Nick Vlastuin
32 Brad Helbig
33 Kamdyn McIntosh
34 Liam McBean
35 Matthew White
36 Matthew McDonough
38 Steven Morris
39 Tom Derickx
41 Nathan Foley
43 Todd Elton
44 Matthew Arnot
45 Brett O'Hanlon

Richmond Tigers Rookie List 2013

13 Ricky Petterd
22 Sam Lonergan
37 Orren Stephenson
40 Cadeyn Williams
48 Ben Darrou
49 Steven Verrier
50 Gideon Simon

Head Coach

Damien Hardwick

Assistant Coaches

Wayne Campbell
Justin Leppitsch
Brendon Lade
Danny Daly
Ross Smith
Mark Williams
Mark Williams (development)
Greg Mellor (development)
Title: Re: time to put a red line through some names
Post by: Gigantor on May 26, 2013, 10:53:13 AM
I'd turn over some of Dimmas assistants,just to freshen things up.The players I wouldn't play anymore are nahas,grigg,jacko(despite his herculean efforts ,his turnovers just kill us)
I have serious question marks on Dea,batch,griff,Elton
I also think big ivan needs to smarten up too,if he isn't injured as many say he is.
I also think pettard ,lonergan are gap fillers at best
Title: Re: time to put a red line through some names
Post by: Jackstar is back!!! on May 26, 2013, 10:54:47 AM
Danny Daly  ::) he still there  :o :o :o

Players 7, 12,21,23,24,26,32,39, 43 ( 9 players who shouldnt be there in 2014)

Questions marks  1(might retire ) 6 ( is scared) 11 ( needs to get fair dinkum, doesnt look fit enough) 27 ( needs to play before you can assess)
29  ( Trade )  35 ( Free agent ) 45 ( needs to have a big 2nd half )

Rookies, apart from 37, complete waste of oxygen
Title: Re: time to put a red line through some names
Post by: WA Tiger on May 26, 2013, 10:56:55 AM
Newman
McGuane
White
Nahas
Dea
Batch
Astbury
Jackson
Helbig
Derickx
O'Hanlon

Lonergan
Stephenson
Darou
Verrier
Simon

Campbell
Daly
Smith

One more year Damien, then bring on Paul Roos!!!!!!



Title: Re: time to put a red line through some names
Post by: Chuck17 on May 26, 2013, 10:57:11 AM
Danny Daly  ::) he still there  :o :o :o

Players 7, 12,21,23,24,26,32,39, 43 ( 9 players who shouldnt be there in 2014)

Questions marks  1(might retire ) 6 ( is scared) 11 ( needs to get fair dinkum, doesnt look fit enough) 27 ( needs to play before you can assess)
29  ( Trade )  35 ( Free agent ) 45 ( needs to have a big 2nd half )

Rookies, apart from 37, complete waste of oxygen

Agree with most of that, apart from Elton would like to see kept for one more year
Title: Re: time to put a red line through some names
Post by: The Big Richo on May 26, 2013, 11:05:24 AM
The Coach needs to go.

Was interesting hearing BT say this morning that Essendon were allowing Jackson and Rance to have the footy cause they aren't great kicks.
Title: Re: time to put a red line through some names
Post by: Jackstar is back!!! on May 26, 2013, 01:08:44 PM
The Coach needs to go.

Was interesting hearing BT say this morning that Essendon were allowing Jackson and Rance to have the footy cause they aren't great kicks.

Thats common in footy
Remember when Jobe Watson was a very poor kick many years ago.
Opposition players was basically  run away from him wanting him to kick and not handball
Title: Re: time to put a red line through some names
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on May 26, 2013, 02:03:22 PM
We have heaps of average kickers.
Ellis, Grigg, Dea, Edwards, Batchelor, McGuane, Rance, Tuck, Jackson, Nahas, Conca, Helbig, White and all these blokes have played senior footy this year.
Whilst some are young and would keep guys who have failed over and over again need to go but Alas they are first on the team sheet each week.
Title: Re: time to put a red line through some names
Post by: tigs2011 on May 26, 2013, 02:19:22 PM
Fire away

Richmond Tigers 2013 AFL List

1 Chris Newman (vet)
2 Dylan Grimes
3 Brett Deledio (vc)
4 Dustin Martin
5 Brandon Ellis
6 Shaun Grigg
7 Matt Dea
8 Jack Riewoldt
9 Trent Cotchin (c)
10 Shane Edwards
11 Jake Batchelor
12 David Astbury
14 Bachar Houli
15 Chris Knights
16 Luke McGuane
18 Alex Rance
20 Ivan Maric
21 Shane Tuck
23 Daniel Jackson
24 Ben Griffiths
25 Troy Chaplin
26 Robin Nahas
27 Aaron Edwards
28 Jake King
29 Tyrone Vickery
30 Reece Conca
31 Nick Vlastuin
32 Brad Helbig
33 Kamdyn McIntosh
34 Liam McBean
35 Matthew White
36 Matthew McDonough
38 Steven Morris
39 Tom Derickx
41 Nathan Foley
43 Todd Elton
44 Matthew Arnot
45 Brett O'Hanlon

Richmond Tigers Rookie List 2013

13 Ricky Petterd
22 Sam Lonergan
37 Orren Stephenson
40 Cadeyn Williams
48 Ben Darrou
49 Steven Verrier
50 Gideon Simon

Head Coach

Damien Hardwick

Assistant Coaches

Wayne Campbell
Justin Leppitsch
Brendon Lade
Danny Daly
Ross Smith
Mark Williams
Mark Williams (development)
Greg Mellor (development)

Title: Re: time to put a red line through some names
Post by: Judge Roughneck on May 26, 2013, 02:24:17 PM
1 Chris Newman (vet)
2 Dylan Grimes
3 Brett Deledio (vc)
4 Dustin Martin
5 Brandon Ellis
6 Shaun Grigg
7 Matt Dea
8 Jack Riewoldt
9 Trent Cotchin (c)
10 Shane Edwards
11 Jake Batchelor
12 David Astbury
14 Bachar Houli
15 Chris Knights
16 Luke McGuane
18 Alex Rance
20 Ivan Maric
21 Shane Tuck
23 Daniel Jackson
24 Ben Griffiths
25 Troy Chaplin
26 Robin Nahas
27 Aaron Edwards
28 Jake King

29 Tyrone Vickery
30 Reece Conca
31 Nick Vlastuin
32 Brad Helbig
33 Kamdyn McIntosh
34 Liam McBean
35 Matthew White
36 Matthew McDonough
38 Steven Morris
39 Tom Derickx
41 Nathan Foley
43 Todd Elton
44 Matthew Arnot
45 Brett O'Hanlon

Richmond Tigers Rookie List 2013

13 Ricky Petterd
22 Sam Lonergan
37 Orren Stephenson

40 Cadeyn Williams
48 Ben Darrou
49 Steven Verrier
50 Gideon Simon
Title: Re: time to put a red line through some names
Post by: TigerLand on May 26, 2013, 02:31:53 PM
Newman
McGuane
White
Nahas
Dea
Batch
Astbury
Jackson
Helbig
Derickx
O'Hanlon

Lonergan
Stephenson
Darou
Verrier
Simon

Campbell
Daly
Smith

One more year Damien, then bring on Paul Roos!!!!!!

x2

Although would give Helbig one more year since he had a serious injury and thought he looked likely before his injury.
Dea also could keep improving and take Newmans spot if he develops a bit further.
Astubury needs to play forward, can't defend. Kicked 3 goals in his first game and then we try and turn him into a defender. Go figure.
Title: Re: time to put a red line through some names
Post by: torch on May 26, 2013, 02:51:52 PM
2013 Richmond FC AFL Team List

1 Chris Newman (Vet) Keep for 1 more year.
2 Dylan Grimes
3 Brett Deledio (VC)
4 Dustin Martin
5 Brandon Ellis - Start playing on Wing/HBF ... Can Play!
6 Shaun Grigg - Horrible, Soft, Unskillful, Slow, No-Confidence, Girl ... Trade/Delist ...  :banghead
7 Matt Dea - Useless, Scared, Dumb, Soft, No-Confidence ... Delist ...  :banghead
8 Jack Riewoldt
9 Trent Cotchin (C)
10 Shane Edwards - Dumb, Waste, Unskillful, either play him in the forward pocket or Trade/Delist ...  :banghead
11 Jake Batchelor - Unskillful, Dumb, Soft, Waste, Slow, No Idea ... Perfect to Trade or just Delist ...  :banghead
12 David Astbury - Start playing! CHF or CHB!
14 Bachar Houli
15 Chris Knights
16 Luke McGuane TRADE/DELIST!  :banghead :banghead :banghead
18 Alex Rance
20 Ivan Maric
21 Shane Tuck RETIRE!
23 Daniel Jackson - Unskillful, Slow, Can't Question Hardness, Dumb Decision Maker ... Trade To GWS!!!  :banghead
24 Ben Griffiths - PLAY IN THE FORWARD LINE YOU TOOLS!
25 Troy Chaplin
26 Robin Nahas - Trade To GWS/Delist ...  :banghead
27 Aaron Edwards - Has Not Had A Chance ...
28 Jake King - 1 More Year Re-Assess ...
29 Tyrone Vickery - Needs to start playing in the RUCK!
30 Reece Conca
31 Nick Vlastuin
32 Brad Helbig - Trade/Delist ... Waste ...
33 Kamdyn McIntosh
34 Liam McBean - Start Playing!
35 Matthew White - 1 More Year Then Re-Assess ...
36 Matthew McDonough
38 Steven Morris
39 Tom Derickx
41 Nathan Foley - 1 More Year Then Re-Assess ...
43 Todd Elton - 1 More Year Then Re-Assess ...
44 Matthew Arnot - START PLAYING!
45 Brett O'Hanlon - 1 More Year Then Re-Assess ...

Rookies

13 Ricky Petterd
22 Sam Lonergan
37 Orren Stephenson
40 Cadeyn Williams
48 Ben Darrou
49 Steven Verrier
50 Gideon Simon

Head Coach

Damien Hardwick Either of these coaches, Roos, Eade, Williams, someone with an attacking game plan and run hard attitude.

Assistant Coaches

Wayne Campbell
Justin Leppitsch
Brendon Lade Our Ruckmen haven't learnt a thing under him.
Danny Daly
Ross Smith
Mark Williams He has been horrible since he took charge of our forward line. Our Forward line has gone backwards. Put Danny Daly back as the forward line coach!
Mark Williams (development) Should be full time.
Greg Mellor (development)

My Team NOW

Morris (Grimes), Chaplin, Newman

Rance, Astbury, Houli

Ellis, Deledio, Conca

Martin, Reiwoldt, King (Knights)

A.Edwards, Griffiths, McBean

R: Vickery, Cotchin, Vlastuin

Int: Maric, Foley (Morris), Arnot (King) Sub: White

The Rest - Coburg!
Title: Re: time to put a red line through some names
Post by: Judge Roughneck on May 26, 2013, 02:56:27 PM
Shane Edwards is not unskillful.

Dea is not scared.
Title: Re: time to put a red line through some names
Post by: Owl on May 26, 2013, 03:44:55 PM
ahh,  the traditional OER wild machete slashing after a loss, wouldn't be the same without it.
Title: Re: time to put a red line through some names
Post by: WilliamPowell on May 26, 2013, 05:12:17 PM
ahh,  the traditional OER wild machete slashing after a loss, wouldn't be the same without it.

 :rollin

 :cheers
Title: Re: time to put a red line through some names
Post by: 1965 on May 26, 2013, 05:23:36 PM

Dan Jackson might make the perfect captain for our reserves team next year.

 :thumbsup
Title: Re: time to put a red line through some names
Post by: Smokey on May 26, 2013, 06:40:55 PM
ahh,  the traditional OER wild machete slashing after a loss, wouldn't be the same without it.

 :lol
Title: Re: time to put a red line through some names
Post by: Judge Roughneck on June 24, 2013, 12:21:27 AM
Derickx
Mcgaune
Aaron Edwards
Stephenson
Pettard
Nahas
Lonergan

Trade: jackson
Title: Re: time to put a red line through some names
Post by: Danog on June 24, 2013, 12:41:49 AM
Jackson is a FA.  Can't "trade".

I'd trade Nahas.
Title: Re: time to put a red line through some names
Post by: MADTIGER2010 on June 24, 2013, 08:49:02 AM
Newman
McGuane
White
Nahas
Dea
Batch
Astbury
I've seen this on lists for 'Worst moments in rock' or some stupid thing. I've also seen it listed on a 'Best moments in rock.' Worst moments in rock seems awfully dramatic. I'd say one of the worst moments in rock history was when Great White played just a few miles from me, their pyrotechnics burned the place down and killed a hundred people. I went to a funeral of one and memorial for everyone.

Helbig
Derickx
O'Hanlon

Lonergan
Stephenson
Darou
Verrier
Simon

Campbell
Daly
Smith

One more year Damien, then bring on Paul Roos!!!!!!

Yeah let's get rid of our only good coach on the last 30 years lol. Foolish
Astbury, Dea, Ohanlon, Newman, Batch?
You're kidding aren't you? How about mentioning Petterd instead. White and Jacko have been good too

Title: Re: time to put a red line through some names
Post by: MintOnLamb on June 24, 2013, 09:21:36 AM
Gee I am sure Dimma is reading this thread with interest.
Title: Re: time to put a red line through some names
Post by: Yeahright on June 24, 2013, 12:23:05 PM
Jackson is a FA.  Can't "trade".

I'd trade Nahas.

Are you sure you can't trade FA?
Title: Re: time to put a red line through some names
Post by: WilliamPowell on June 24, 2013, 12:39:02 PM
Jackson is a FA.  Can't "trade".

I'd trade Nahas.

Are you sure you can't trade FA?

Would think you could if he doens't get a FA offer from another club and we want to trade him
Title: Re: time to put a red line through some names
Post by: Yeahright on June 24, 2013, 12:40:58 PM
Jackson is a FA.  Can't "trade".

I'd trade Nahas.

Are you sure you can't trade FA?

Would think you could if he doens't get a FA offer from another club and we want to trade him

That's what I thought or if a club wanted to offload someone of interest instead of getting into a bidding war.
Title: Re: time to put a red line through some names
Post by: The Big Richo on June 24, 2013, 12:48:36 PM
You can, in the H.S Buddy scenarios last week one was to trade him.
Title: Re: time to put a red line through some names
Post by: Coach on June 24, 2013, 04:03:04 PM
Jackson is a FA.  Can't "trade".

I'd trade Nahas.

Yes, you can. Learn more
Title: Re: time to put a red line through some names
Post by: Hard Roar Tiger on June 24, 2013, 04:34:59 PM
I'd trade a few of our so called expert posters
Title: Re: time to put a red line through some names
Post by: WilliamPowell on June 24, 2013, 04:47:33 PM
I'd trade a few of our so called expert posters

I have a long term contract and therefore I can / will refuse any trade  ;D

:rollin 
:jump
:highclap
:eyebrow
:veryhappy
Title: Re: time to put a red line through some names
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on June 24, 2013, 04:51:11 PM
I'd trade a few of our so called expert posters

 :shh
Title: Re: time to put a red line through some names
Post by: Tigershark on June 24, 2013, 09:53:58 PM
Jackson is a FA.  Can't "trade".

I'd trade Nahas.

Are you sure you can't trade FA?

Would think you could if he doens't get a FA offer from another club and we want to trade him
would get Sweet FA for him :cheers
Title: Re: time to put a red line through some names
Post by: Stripes on June 25, 2013, 10:27:12 AM
Delist
Derickx
Helbig
Arnot

Lonegan
Petterd
Verrier
Darrou

Trade
Nahas
McGuane

Keep for insurance temporarily
White
Big O
A Edwards
O'Hanolan (sp?)
Astbury
Title: Re: time to put a red line through some names
Post by: gerkin greg on June 25, 2013, 10:56:55 AM
I wanna go, I wanna go

1 Chris Newman (vet)
2 Dylan Grimes
3 Brett Deledio (vc)
4 Dustin Martin
5 Brandon Ellis
6 Shaun Grigg
7 Matt Dea
8 Jack Riewoldt
9 Trent Cotchin (c)
10 Shane Edwards
11 Jake Batchelor
12 David Astbury
14 Bachar Houli
15 Chris Knights
16 Luke McGuane
18 Alex Rance
20 Ivan Maric
21 Shane Tuck
23 Daniel Jackson
24 Ben Griffiths
25 Troy Chaplin
26 Robin Nahas
27 Aaron Edwards
28 Jake King
29 Tyrone Vickery
30 Reece Conca
31 Nick Vlastuin
32 Brad Helbig
33 Kamdyn McIntosh
34 Liam McBean
35 Matthew White
36 Matthew McDonough
38 Steven Morris
39 Tom Derickx
41 Nathan Foley
43 Todd Elton
44 Matthew Arnot
45 Brett O'Hanlon

Richmond Tigers Rookie List 2013

13 Ricky Petterd
22 Sam Lonergan
37 Orren Stephenson
40 Cadeyn Williams
48 Ben Darrou
49 Steven Verrier
50 Gideon Simon

Head Coach

Damien Hardwick

Assistant Coaches

Wayne Campbell
Justin Leppitsch
Brendon Lade
Danny Daly
Ross Smith
Mark Williams
Mark Williams (development)
Greg Mellor (development)


weeeeeeee!!!
Title: Re: time to put a red line through some names
Post by: tigs2011 on June 25, 2013, 11:08:06 AM
Jackson is a FA.  Can't "trade".

I'd trade Nahas.

Yes, you can. Learn more

Not if they are unrestricted like Jacko. Why would you trade for something you can take for free?

Restricted like Buddy means Hawks can match the offer and Buddy goes get stuffed and then a trade needs to be done.
Title: Re: time to put a red line through some names
Post by: WilliamPowell on June 25, 2013, 11:20:28 AM
Delist
Helbig
Arnot


Bit harsh on those 2 Stripes

Helbig's had a couple of nasty foot injuries and Arnot hasn't even been given a go despite solid VFL form.

Think Arnot needs to play some AFL footy before he gets turfed

And I'd turf O'Hanlon before Arnot  ;D

Title: Re: time to put a red line through some names
Post by: tigs2011 on June 25, 2013, 12:02:04 PM
Arnot can't kick for poo. It's not surprising he can't get a game despite getting a lot of the ball at VFL
Title: Re: time to put a red line through some names
Post by: WilliamPowell on June 25, 2013, 12:09:40 PM
Arnot can't kick for poo. It's not surprising he can't get a game despite getting a lot of the ball at VFL

Either can Jacko apart from when it comes to kicking goals from the boundary but he's manage over 100 games

And our captain can be a very good ball butcher at times too  ;D
Title: Re: time to put a red line through some names
Post by: Yeahright on June 25, 2013, 12:15:52 PM
And Lonergan. Edwards has/had his kicking issues and only recently have they become less noticeable. Tuck?
Title: Re: time to put a red line through some names
Post by: Stripes on June 25, 2013, 12:31:52 PM
Delist
Helbig
Arnot


Bit harsh on those 2 Stripes

Helbig's had a couple of nasty foot injuries and Arnot hasn't even been given a go despite solid VFL form.

Think Arnot needs to play some AFL footy before he gets turfed

And I'd turf O'Hanlon before Arnot  ;D

Yes probably am being harsh on those two but come the end of the season we have to delist some players and these two can't seem to push into the side. We have midfield depth and will probably get more quality through the draft next year so some of these types need to make way. You're right though, O'Hanlon may get his orders before Helbig though Arnot I fear could be in strife.
Title: Re: time to put a red line through some names
Post by: Crazy_Ivan on June 25, 2013, 12:34:59 PM
1 Michael Hibberd
2 Tom Bellchambers
3 Scott Gumbleton
4 Jobe Watson (c)
5 Brent Stanton
6 Joe Daniher
7 Leroy Jetta
8 Jason Winderlich
9 Brendon Goddard
10 Nick O'Brien
11 David Zaharakis
12 Stewart Crameri
14 Jason Ashby
15 Courtenay Dempsey
16 Tayte Pears
17 Jake Melksham
18 Michael Hurley
19 David Hille (vet)
20 Jackson Merrett
21 Dyson Heppell

  22 Jake Carlisle
23 David Myers
24 Alex Browne
26 Cale Hooker
27 Luke Davis
28 Elliott Kavanagh
29 Alwyn Davey
30 Paddy Ryder
31 Dustin Fletcher (vet)
32 Travis Colyer
33 Dylan Van Unen
34 Kyle Hardingham
35 Martin Gleeson
37 Sean Gregory
38 Nick Kommer
39 Heath Hocking
40 Ben Howlett
41 Will Hams
42 Nathan Lovett-Murray
46 Mark Baguley
 
 
Title: Re: time to put a red line through some names
Post by: Francois Jackson on June 25, 2013, 12:59:51 PM
1 Michael Hibberd
2 Tom Bellchambers
3 Scott Gumbleton
4 Jobe Watson (c)
5 Brent Stanton
6 Joe Daniher
7 Leroy Jetta
8 Jason Winderlich
9 Brendon Goddard
10 Nick O'Brien
11 David Zaharakis
12 Stewart Crameri
14 Jason Ashby
15 Courtenay Dempsey
16 Tayte Pears
17 Jake Melksham
18 Michael Hurley
19 David Hille (vet)
20 Jackson Merrett
21 Dyson Heppell

  22 Jake Carlisle
23 David Myers
24 Alex Browne
26 Cale Hooker
27 Luke Davis
28 Elliott Kavanagh
29 Alwyn Davey
30 Paddy Ryder
31 Dustin Fletcher (vet)
32 Travis Colyer
33 Dylan Van Unen
34 Kyle Hardingham
35 Martin Gleeson
37 Sean Gregory
38 Nick Kommer
39 Heath Hocking
40 Ben Howlett
41 Will Hams
42 Nathan Lovett-Murray
46 Mark Baguley
 


hahahahahahaha your best post to date
Title: Re: time to put a red line through some names
Post by: tigs2011 on June 25, 2013, 01:01:37 PM
Arnot can't kick for poo. It's not surprising he can't get a game despite getting a lot of the ball at VFL

Either can Jacko apart from when it comes to kicking goals from the boundary but he's manage over 100 games

And our captain can be a very good ball butcher at times too  ;D

Arnot would be lucky to be half as good as Jacko when it comes to kicking. He's also a liability with his anger. It's not like he's a skinny kid or he lack a tank or he's had injuries. If he can crack a game then he may be kept. Otherwise doubt it.

I agree with you on Helbig. He should stay. Will be a good player when gets a good run at it.
Title: Re: time to put a red line through some names
Post by: Coach on June 25, 2013, 01:55:04 PM
Jackson is a FA.  Can't "trade".

I'd trade Nahas.

Yes, you can. Learn more

Not if they are unrestricted like Jacko. Why would you trade for something you can take for free?

Restricted like Buddy means Hawks can match the offer and Buddy goes get stuffed and then a trade needs to be done.

Oh, so you can take any player you want without their consent as long as they're an unrestricted free agent hey bro? Learn more. Blumfield board. Jacko can be traded but he won't so STFU everyone and let go of the pipe dream. He's actually been solid this season

And learn more
Title: Re: time to put a red line through some names
Post by: tigs2011 on June 25, 2013, 03:18:36 PM
Jackson is a FA.  Can't "trade".

I'd trade Nahas.

Yes, you can. Learn more

Not if they are unrestricted like Jacko. Why would you trade for something you can take for free?

Restricted like Buddy means Hawks can match the offer and Buddy goes get stuffed and then a trade needs to be done.

Oh, so you can take any player you want without their consent as long as they're an unrestricted free agent hey bro? Learn more. Blumfield board. Jacko can be traded but he won't so STFU everyone and let go of the pipe dream. He's actually been solid this season

And learn more
You can take them without their clubs consent. They can't get Jacko if he doesn't want to go. Nor can you trade someone against their will.
Title: Re: time to put a red line through some names
Post by: Coach on June 25, 2013, 03:23:51 PM
Jackson is a FA.  Can't "trade".

I'd trade Nahas.

Yes, you can. Learn more

Not if they are unrestricted like Jacko. Why would you trade for something you can take for free?

Restricted like Buddy means Hawks can match the offer and Buddy goes get stuffed and then a trade needs to be done.

Oh, so you can take any player you want without their consent as long as they're an unrestricted free agent hey bro? Learn more. Blumfield board. Jacko can be traded but he won't so STFU everyone and let go of the pipe dream. He's actually been solid this season

And learn more
You can take them without their clubs consent. They can't get Jacko if he doesn't want to go. Nor can you trade someone against their will.

No stuffing poo you can take them without the clubs consent, that's the whole point. As for the other bit, Blumfield board. Look it up. A contracted player can't be traded against their will
Title: Re: time to put a red line through some names
Post by: dwaino on June 25, 2013, 03:34:50 PM
Jackson is a FA.  Can't "trade".

I'd trade Nahas.

Yes, you can. Learn more

Not if they are unrestricted like Jacko. Why would you trade for something you can take for free?

Restricted like Buddy means Hawks can match the offer and Buddy goes get stuffed and then a trade needs to be done.

Oh, so you can take any player you want without their consent as long as they're an unrestricted free agent hey bro? Learn more. Blumfield board. Jacko can be traded but he won't so STFU everyone and let go of the pipe dream. He's actually been solid this season

And learn more
You can take them without their clubs consent. They can't get Jacko if he doesn't want to go. Nor can you trade someone against their will.

No stuffing poo you can take them without the clubs consent, that's the whole point. As for the other bit, Blumfield board. Look it up. A contracted player can't be traded against their will

Tigs is confusing footy with his harem.
Title: Re: time to put a red line through some names
Post by: Coach on June 25, 2013, 03:35:50 PM
WHere's mrakov? surely she has something to add
Title: Re: time to put a red line through some names
Post by: tigs2011 on June 25, 2013, 06:26:57 PM
Jackson is a FA.  Can't "trade".

I'd trade Nahas.

Yes, you can. Learn more

Not if they are unrestricted like Jacko. Why would you trade for something you can take for free?

Restricted like Buddy means Hawks can match the offer and Buddy goes get stuffed and then a trade needs to be done.

Oh, so you can take any player you want without their consent as long as they're an unrestricted free agent hey bro? Learn more. Blumfield board. Jacko can be traded but he won't so STFU everyone and let go of the pipe dream. He's actually been solid this season

And learn more
You can take them without their clubs consent. They can't get Jacko if he doesn't want to go. Nor can you trade someone against their will.

No stuffing poo you can take them without the clubs consent, that's the whole point. As for the other bit, Blumfield board. Look it up. A contracted player can't be traded against their will

My point is you can't trade an unrestricted FA. They'll just walk. Jackson is therefore untradeable. That along with no one would offer anything. ;D

Blumfield if he desperately didn't want to play for us could have not signed a contract with us.  :whistle

We could give up a 1st rounder for Denis Armfield if we want to but if he doesn't sign a contract it's kind of a waste.  ;)
Title: Re: time to put a red line through some names
Post by: tigs2011 on June 25, 2013, 06:29:57 PM
Also, my understanding of Blumfield was Essendon couldn't fit him in the salary cap so he had to go. So it was either Richmond or scrap heap.  :cheers
Title: Re: time to put a red line through some names
Post by: Crazy_Ivan on June 26, 2013, 11:27:59 AM
1 Michael Hibberd
2 Tom Bellchambers
3 Scott Gumbleton
4 Jobe Watson (c)
5 Brent Stanton
6 Joe Daniher
7 Leroy Jetta
8 Jason Winderlich
9 Brendon Goddard
10 Nick O'Brien
11 David Zaharakis
12 Stewart Crameri
14 Jason Ashby
15 Courtenay Dempsey
16 Tayte Pears
17 Jake Melksham
18 Michael Hurley
19 David Hille (vet)
20 Jackson Merrett
21 Dyson Heppell

  22 Jake Carlisle
23 David Myers
24 Alex Browne
26 Cale Hooker
27 Luke Davis
28 Elliott Kavanagh
29 Alwyn Davey
30 Paddy Ryder
31 Dustin Fletcher (vet)
32 Travis Colyer
33 Dylan Van Unen
34 Kyle Hardingham
35 Martin Gleeson
37 Sean Gregory
38 Nick Kommer
39 Heath Hocking
40 Ben Howlett
41 Will Hams
42 Nathan Lovett-Murray
46 Mark Baguley
 


hahahahahahaha your best post to date
Why Thank you. :thumbsup
Title: Re: time to put a red line through some names
Post by: the claw on June 26, 2013, 07:12:33 PM
we only need to cut 6 from the list proper.
6 would allow for 4 nd picks. 1 free agent and 1 trade.
would hope we could end up with 1 first round pick. 2 second round picks and 1 3rd round pick. all decent nd  picks to use on  kids and continue to look after the long term.

to me the 6 most in the gun who have had plenty of time are mature and always revert back to below standard  are.

derickx  = 3rd rounder.
nahas = 2nd rounder
white = 2nd rounder
mcguane = 1st rounder.  in effect we use 4 very good picks to replace duds. ask yourself what would you offer up for these hacks. we would be lucky to get anything for any of them.

rance = trade for promising ruckman in lycett wce or longer bl plus 2nd rnd pick.

would also look to cut 4 rookies stephenson, petterd, lonergan, and verrier. target two kids and two mature types.

jackson = f/a like james frawley what an asset he would be.

have to say im dismayed at people wanting to cut 19 yr olds like arnot and ohanlon even helbig whos had a tough run with injuries.

on top of this we have tuck probably eyeing of retirement it may save someone. personally i hope he goes around for one more season.

for what its worth i have a total of 19 that id be prepared to move on so for me there are options. i think one key for us is to keep some semblance of experience in the list as we are young and inexperienced.

Title: Re: time to put a red line through some names
Post by: Gigantor on June 26, 2013, 07:14:07 PM
trade Rance for a promising ruckman?????..
Title: Re: time to put a red line through some names
Post by: the claw on June 26, 2013, 07:20:09 PM
i know you blokes dont agree but he is a very ordinary player indeed.some areas of his game are appalling and there is just no way he will improve them.
 getting a player like frawley in f/a would easily  off set the loss of rance. billy longer and a second rnd pick would see us a mile in front on that one.

if i could conjure up a decent deal for vickery id do it in a heart beat but ya know what i doubt wed get anything for him.
Title: Re: time to put a red line through some names
Post by: Tigeritis™©® on June 26, 2013, 08:05:35 PM
i know you blokes dont agree but he is a very ordinary player indeed.some areas of his game are appalling and there is just no way he will improve them.
 getting a player like frawley in f/a would easily  off set the loss of rance. billy longer and a second rnd pick would see us a mile in front on that one.

if i could conjure up a decent deal for vickery id do it in a heart beat but ya know what i doubt wed get anything for him.
I'd trade Vickery & 1st round pick for Nic Nat.  :thumbsup
Title: Re: time to put a red line through some names
Post by: tigs2011 on June 26, 2013, 09:06:19 PM
Frawley isn't a Free Agent. Rance has improved a heap. Vickery will be fine. Players that are injured for majority of a season before you can often write off the next season as being ordinary. Look at LeCras. Guy is a gun, but has spudded it up this season.

Matt White won't get delisted either. Playing his role perfectly. No one else can play that role either. I've never been a fan and wanted to cut him for the last 4 years but credit where it's due he's been good last 3 weeks.
Title: Re: time to put a red line through some names
Post by: Golfprotiger on June 26, 2013, 09:28:41 PM
Frawley isn't a Free Agent. Rance has improved a heap. Vickery will be fine. Players that are injured for majority of a season before you can often write off the next season as being ordinary. Look at LeCras. Guy is a gun, but has spudded it up this season.

Matt White won't get delisted either. Playing his role perfectly. No one else can play that role either. I've never been a fan and wanted to cut him for the last 4 years but credit where it's due he's been good last 3 weeks.

The super sub!!!!
Title: Re: time to put a red line through some names
Post by: big tone on June 26, 2013, 10:12:12 PM
i know you blokes dont agree but he is a very ordinary player indeed.some areas of his game are appalling and there is just no way he will improve them.
 getting a player like frawley in f/a would easily  off set the loss of rance. billy longer and a second rnd pick would see us a mile in front on that one.

if i could conjure up a decent deal for vickery id do it in a heart beat but ya know what i doubt wed get anything for him.
So you think Rance is a very ordinary player.... Indeed,    but you think the Brisbane Lions would give away a player they picked up with pick 8 in the 2011 National draft AND a second round pick for him?? For you to write that it shows me you must rate Rance more than than you let on. Get over it man, you are just making yourself look stupid!!
Title: Re: time to put a red line through some names
Post by: tigs2011 on June 26, 2013, 11:00:02 PM
Frawley isn't a Free Agent. Rance has improved a heap. Vickery will be fine. Players that are injured for majority of a season before you can often write off the next season as being ordinary. Look at LeCras. Guy is a gun, but has spudded it up this season.

Matt White won't get delisted either. Playing his role perfectly. No one else can play that role either. I've never been a fan and wanted to cut him for the last 4 years but credit where it's due he's been good last 3 weeks.

The super sub!!!!
Can play a decent full game too. Just ask the Eagles.  :shh
Title: Re: time to put a red line through some names
Post by: Andyy on June 26, 2013, 11:10:24 PM
Trade Rance? Crazy talk. Then what, depend on Chaplin and Grimes? Astbury, Griffiths?

Chaplin is a great addition but otherwise Rance is the only other solid/dependable/healthy tall back we have. Shoddy kicking at times but a very honest and decent player. Would certainly not trade him. His importance will be highlighted this week VS Saint l, especially if Chaplin doesn't play.

White is a decent player to hold onto for depth/sub. Keep IMO.

McGuane and Nahas = trade. Probably wont get much for anybody else I think. Nobody would take Tuck or Jackson but I think their toughness is very valuable to our midfield.
Title: Re: time to put a red line through some names
Post by: Tigeritis™©® on June 26, 2013, 11:13:27 PM
J. Gillard
Title: Re: time to put a red line through some names
Post by: Smokey on June 27, 2013, 09:18:25 AM
J. Gillard

 :lol   :clapping
Title: Re: time to put a red line through some names
Post by: Crazy_Ivan on June 27, 2013, 10:07:38 AM
J. Gillard
Boom Boom. :clapping :clapping
Title: Re: time to put a red line through some names
Post by: the claw on June 27, 2013, 07:13:17 PM
i know you blokes dont agree but he is a very ordinary player indeed.some areas of his game are appalling and there is just no way he will improve them.
 getting a player like frawley in f/a would easily  off set the loss of rance. billy longer and a second rnd pick would see us a mile in front on that one.

if i could conjure up a decent deal for vickery id do it in a heart beat but ya know what i doubt wed get anything for him.
So you think Rance is a very ordinary player.... Indeed,    but you think the Brisbane Lions would give away a player they picked up with pick 8 in the 2011 National draft AND a second round pick for him?? For you to write that it shows me you must rate Rance more than than you let on. Get over it man, you are just making yourself look stupid!!
what you cant take the leap and grasp that a player can be ordinary and still have percieved value.

if i ranked every regular kpd in the comp all 36 of them rance would be in the bottom 10 percent.
oh by the way richard tambling was extremely ordinary but had percieved value. how about jordie mcmahon. at the end of the day it all comes down to how you rate em and me i think rance a poor player.im sure there is some fool club out there prepared to part with plenty for rance especially clubs in need of kpds. hence i mentioned bl and wce.

i mentioned two young ruckmen neither have become regular players hence rance is in front of them both are struggling to get a game because they have other very good  players well in front of them.

rank rance highly at your peril  but hes a 6 yr player heading towards what 90 100 games and the same problems exist now as they did when we drafted him. ive been thru on numerous occasions the many things he regularly gets wrong surely i dont need to do them again.

i know we can do better than him the fact is we must do better than him.
unfortunately we havent really drafted a young kpd with a decent pick since we drafted rance. for some reason they seem to think their development with the big blokes is so good they can convert forwards to defenders all i can say to that is it aint worked. hence alex to tiger supporters is important because there is no competition for his spot.
Title: Re: time to put a red line through some names
Post by: gerkin greg on June 27, 2013, 09:29:42 PM
Yep do it elsewhere thanks :sleep
Title: Re: time to put a red line through some names
Post by: Andyy on June 27, 2013, 11:58:33 PM
Rance is a good player. Not perfect but a brave, tough, honest and durable/healthy player. I'd never trade him off before flicking guys like Nahas and McGuane.

Sure Grimes probably has more talent but he's not as physically mature and appears to be very injury-prone. We're paying top $ for Chaplin and it seems to be worth it. If Grimes comes through physically then maybe Rance will end up being a 2nd or 3rd KPD. Not a bad prospect for depth IMO.
Title: Re: time to put a red line through some names
Post by: Willy on June 28, 2013, 12:30:18 AM
Rance is a good player. Not perfect but a brave, tough, honest and durable/healthy player. I'd never trade him off before flicking guys like Nahas and McGuane.

Sure Grimes probably has more talent but he's not as physically mature and appears to be very injury-prone. We're paying top $ for Chaplin and it seems to be worth it. If Grimes comes through physically then maybe Rance will end up being a 2nd or 3rd KPD. Not a bad prospect for depth IMO.

 :thumbsup
Title: Re: time to put a red line through some names
Post by: dwaino on June 28, 2013, 12:37:44 AM
West Coast
Title: Re: time to put a red line through some names
Post by: tigs2011 on June 28, 2013, 02:23:57 AM
Essendrug
Title: Re: time to put a red line through some names
Post by: Danog on June 30, 2013, 03:01:16 AM
Jackson is a FA.  Can't "trade".

I'd trade Nahas.

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I worded my thoughts incorrectly.  Nobody would trade for Jackson, if they could get him for free (draft pick / player trade-wise).