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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: Dubstep Dookie on May 26, 2013, 10:46:38 AM
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Fire away
Richmond Tigers 2013 AFL List
1 Chris Newman (vet)
2 Dylan Grimes
3 Brett Deledio (vc)
4 Dustin Martin
5 Brandon Ellis
6 Shaun Grigg
7 Matt Dea
8 Jack Riewoldt
9 Trent Cotchin (c)
10 Shane Edwards
11 Jake Batchelor
12 David Astbury
14 Bachar Houli
15 Chris Knights
16 Luke McGuane
18 Alex Rance
20 Ivan Maric
21 Shane Tuck
23 Daniel Jackson
24 Ben Griffiths
25 Troy Chaplin
26 Robin Nahas
27 Aaron Edwards
28 Jake King
29 Tyrone Vickery
30 Reece Conca
31 Nick Vlastuin
32 Brad Helbig
33 Kamdyn McIntosh
34 Liam McBean
35 Matthew White
36 Matthew McDonough
38 Steven Morris
39 Tom Derickx
41 Nathan Foley
43 Todd Elton
44 Matthew Arnot
45 Brett O'Hanlon
Richmond Tigers Rookie List 2013
13 Ricky Petterd
22 Sam Lonergan
37 Orren Stephenson
40 Cadeyn Williams
48 Ben Darrou
49 Steven Verrier
50 Gideon Simon
Head Coach
Damien Hardwick
Assistant Coaches
Wayne Campbell
Justin Leppitsch
Brendon Lade
Danny Daly
Ross Smith
Mark Williams
Mark Williams (development)
Greg Mellor (development)
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I'd turn over some of Dimmas assistants,just to freshen things up.The players I wouldn't play anymore are nahas,grigg,jacko(despite his herculean efforts ,his turnovers just kill us)
I have serious question marks on Dea,batch,griff,Elton
I also think big ivan needs to smarten up too,if he isn't injured as many say he is.
I also think pettard ,lonergan are gap fillers at best
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Danny Daly ::) he still there :o :o :o
Players 7, 12,21,23,24,26,32,39, 43 ( 9 players who shouldnt be there in 2014)
Questions marks 1(might retire ) 6 ( is scared) 11 ( needs to get fair dinkum, doesnt look fit enough) 27 ( needs to play before you can assess)
29 ( Trade ) 35 ( Free agent ) 45 ( needs to have a big 2nd half )
Rookies, apart from 37, complete waste of oxygen
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Newman
McGuane
White
Nahas
Dea
Batch
Astbury
Jackson
Helbig
Derickx
O'Hanlon
Lonergan
Stephenson
Darou
Verrier
Simon
Campbell
Daly
Smith
One more year Damien, then bring on Paul Roos!!!!!!
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Danny Daly ::) he still there :o :o :o
Players 7, 12,21,23,24,26,32,39, 43 ( 9 players who shouldnt be there in 2014)
Questions marks 1(might retire ) 6 ( is scared) 11 ( needs to get fair dinkum, doesnt look fit enough) 27 ( needs to play before you can assess)
29 ( Trade ) 35 ( Free agent ) 45 ( needs to have a big 2nd half )
Rookies, apart from 37, complete waste of oxygen
Agree with most of that, apart from Elton would like to see kept for one more year
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The Coach needs to go.
Was interesting hearing BT say this morning that Essendon were allowing Jackson and Rance to have the footy cause they aren't great kicks.
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The Coach needs to go.
Was interesting hearing BT say this morning that Essendon were allowing Jackson and Rance to have the footy cause they aren't great kicks.
Thats common in footy
Remember when Jobe Watson was a very poor kick many years ago.
Opposition players was basically run away from him wanting him to kick and not handball
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We have heaps of average kickers.
Ellis, Grigg, Dea, Edwards, Batchelor, McGuane, Rance, Tuck, Jackson, Nahas, Conca, Helbig, White and all these blokes have played senior footy this year.
Whilst some are young and would keep guys who have failed over and over again need to go but Alas they are first on the team sheet each week.
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Fire away
Richmond Tigers 2013 AFL List
1 Chris Newman (vet)
2 Dylan Grimes
3 Brett Deledio (vc)
4 Dustin Martin
5 Brandon Ellis
6 Shaun Grigg
7 Matt Dea
8 Jack Riewoldt
9 Trent Cotchin (c)
10 Shane Edwards
11 Jake Batchelor
12 David Astbury
14 Bachar Houli
15 Chris Knights
16 Luke McGuane
18 Alex Rance
20 Ivan Maric
21 Shane Tuck
23 Daniel Jackson
24 Ben Griffiths
25 Troy Chaplin
26 Robin Nahas
27 Aaron Edwards
28 Jake King
29 Tyrone Vickery
30 Reece Conca
31 Nick Vlastuin
32 Brad Helbig
33 Kamdyn McIntosh
34 Liam McBean
35 Matthew White
36 Matthew McDonough
38 Steven Morris
39 Tom Derickx
41 Nathan Foley
43 Todd Elton
44 Matthew Arnot
45 Brett O'Hanlon
Richmond Tigers Rookie List 2013
13 Ricky Petterd
22 Sam Lonergan
37 Orren Stephenson
40 Cadeyn Williams
48 Ben Darrou
49 Steven Verrier
50 Gideon Simon
Head Coach
Damien Hardwick
Assistant Coaches
Wayne Campbell
Justin Leppitsch
Brendon Lade
Danny Daly
Ross Smith
Mark Williams
Mark Williams (development)
Greg Mellor (development)
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1 Chris Newman (vet)
2 Dylan Grimes
3 Brett Deledio (vc)
4 Dustin Martin
5 Brandon Ellis
6 Shaun Grigg
7 Matt Dea
8 Jack Riewoldt
9 Trent Cotchin (c)
10 Shane Edwards
11 Jake Batchelor
12 David Astbury
14 Bachar Houli
15 Chris Knights
16 Luke McGuane
18 Alex Rance
20 Ivan Maric
21 Shane Tuck
23 Daniel Jackson
24 Ben Griffiths
25 Troy Chaplin
26 Robin Nahas
27 Aaron Edwards
28 Jake King
29 Tyrone Vickery
30 Reece Conca
31 Nick Vlastuin
32 Brad Helbig
33 Kamdyn McIntosh
34 Liam McBean
35 Matthew White
36 Matthew McDonough
38 Steven Morris
39 Tom Derickx
41 Nathan Foley
43 Todd Elton
44 Matthew Arnot
45 Brett O'Hanlon
Richmond Tigers Rookie List 2013
13 Ricky Petterd
22 Sam Lonergan
37 Orren Stephenson
40 Cadeyn Williams
48 Ben Darrou
49 Steven Verrier
50 Gideon Simon
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Newman
McGuane
White
Nahas
Dea
Batch
Astbury
Jackson
Helbig
Derickx
O'Hanlon
Lonergan
Stephenson
Darou
Verrier
Simon
Campbell
Daly
Smith
One more year Damien, then bring on Paul Roos!!!!!!
x2
Although would give Helbig one more year since he had a serious injury and thought he looked likely before his injury.
Dea also could keep improving and take Newmans spot if he develops a bit further.
Astubury needs to play forward, can't defend. Kicked 3 goals in his first game and then we try and turn him into a defender. Go figure.
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2013 Richmond FC AFL Team List
1 Chris Newman (Vet) Keep for 1 more year.
2 Dylan Grimes
3 Brett Deledio (VC)
4 Dustin Martin
5 Brandon Ellis - Start playing on Wing/HBF ... Can Play!
6 Shaun Grigg - Horrible, Soft, Unskillful, Slow, No-Confidence, Girl ... Trade/Delist ... :banghead
7 Matt Dea - Useless, Scared, Dumb, Soft, No-Confidence ... Delist ... :banghead
8 Jack Riewoldt
9 Trent Cotchin (C)
10 Shane Edwards - Dumb, Waste, Unskillful, either play him in the forward pocket or Trade/Delist ... :banghead
11 Jake Batchelor - Unskillful, Dumb, Soft, Waste, Slow, No Idea ... Perfect to Trade or just Delist ... :banghead
12 David Astbury - Start playing! CHF or CHB!
14 Bachar Houli
15 Chris Knights
16 Luke McGuane TRADE/DELIST! :banghead :banghead :banghead
18 Alex Rance
20 Ivan Maric
21 Shane Tuck RETIRE!
23 Daniel Jackson - Unskillful, Slow, Can't Question Hardness, Dumb Decision Maker ... Trade To GWS!!! :banghead
24 Ben Griffiths - PLAY IN THE FORWARD LINE YOU TOOLS!
25 Troy Chaplin
26 Robin Nahas - Trade To GWS/Delist ... :banghead
27 Aaron Edwards - Has Not Had A Chance ...
28 Jake King - 1 More Year Re-Assess ...
29 Tyrone Vickery - Needs to start playing in the RUCK!
30 Reece Conca
31 Nick Vlastuin
32 Brad Helbig - Trade/Delist ... Waste ...
33 Kamdyn McIntosh
34 Liam McBean - Start Playing!
35 Matthew White - 1 More Year Then Re-Assess ...
36 Matthew McDonough
38 Steven Morris
39 Tom Derickx
41 Nathan Foley - 1 More Year Then Re-Assess ...
43 Todd Elton - 1 More Year Then Re-Assess ...
44 Matthew Arnot - START PLAYING!
45 Brett O'Hanlon - 1 More Year Then Re-Assess ...
Rookies
13 Ricky Petterd
22 Sam Lonergan
37 Orren Stephenson
40 Cadeyn Williams
48 Ben Darrou
49 Steven Verrier
50 Gideon Simon
Head Coach
Damien Hardwick Either of these coaches, Roos, Eade, Williams, someone with an attacking game plan and run hard attitude.
Assistant Coaches
Wayne Campbell
Justin Leppitsch
Brendon Lade Our Ruckmen haven't learnt a thing under him.
Danny Daly
Ross Smith
Mark Williams He has been horrible since he took charge of our forward line. Our Forward line has gone backwards. Put Danny Daly back as the forward line coach!
Mark Williams (development) Should be full time.
Greg Mellor (development)
My Team NOW
Morris (Grimes), Chaplin, Newman
Rance, Astbury, Houli
Ellis, Deledio, Conca
Martin, Reiwoldt, King (Knights)
A.Edwards, Griffiths, McBean
R: Vickery, Cotchin, Vlastuin
Int: Maric, Foley (Morris), Arnot (King) Sub: White
The Rest - Coburg!
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Shane Edwards is not unskillful.
Dea is not scared.
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ahh, the traditional OER wild machete slashing after a loss, wouldn't be the same without it.
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ahh, the traditional OER wild machete slashing after a loss, wouldn't be the same without it.
:rollin
:cheers
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Dan Jackson might make the perfect captain for our reserves team next year.
:thumbsup
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ahh, the traditional OER wild machete slashing after a loss, wouldn't be the same without it.
:lol
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Derickx
Mcgaune
Aaron Edwards
Stephenson
Pettard
Nahas
Lonergan
Trade: jackson
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Jackson is a FA. Can't "trade".
I'd trade Nahas.
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Newman
McGuane
White
Nahas
Dea
Batch
Astbury
I've seen this on lists for 'Worst moments in rock' or some stupid thing. I've also seen it listed on a 'Best moments in rock.' Worst moments in rock seems awfully dramatic. I'd say one of the worst moments in rock history was when Great White played just a few miles from me, their pyrotechnics burned the place down and killed a hundred people. I went to a funeral of one and memorial for everyone.
Helbig
Derickx
O'Hanlon
Lonergan
Stephenson
Darou
Verrier
Simon
Campbell
Daly
Smith
One more year Damien, then bring on Paul Roos!!!!!!
Yeah let's get rid of our only good coach on the last 30 years lol. Foolish
Astbury, Dea, Ohanlon, Newman, Batch?
You're kidding aren't you? How about mentioning Petterd instead. White and Jacko have been good too
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Gee I am sure Dimma is reading this thread with interest.
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Jackson is a FA. Can't "trade".
I'd trade Nahas.
Are you sure you can't trade FA?
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Jackson is a FA. Can't "trade".
I'd trade Nahas.
Are you sure you can't trade FA?
Would think you could if he doens't get a FA offer from another club and we want to trade him
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Jackson is a FA. Can't "trade".
I'd trade Nahas.
Are you sure you can't trade FA?
Would think you could if he doens't get a FA offer from another club and we want to trade him
That's what I thought or if a club wanted to offload someone of interest instead of getting into a bidding war.
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You can, in the H.S Buddy scenarios last week one was to trade him.
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Jackson is a FA. Can't "trade".
I'd trade Nahas.
Yes, you can. Learn more
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I'd trade a few of our so called expert posters
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I'd trade a few of our so called expert posters
I have a long term contract and therefore I can / will refuse any trade ;D
:rollin
:jump
:highclap
:eyebrow
:veryhappy
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I'd trade a few of our so called expert posters
:shh
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Jackson is a FA. Can't "trade".
I'd trade Nahas.
Are you sure you can't trade FA?
Would think you could if he doens't get a FA offer from another club and we want to trade him
would get Sweet FA for him :cheers
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Delist
Derickx
Helbig
Arnot
Lonegan
Petterd
Verrier
Darrou
Trade
Nahas
McGuane
Keep for insurance temporarily
White
Big O
A Edwards
O'Hanolan (sp?)
Astbury
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I wanna go, I wanna go
1 Chris Newman (vet)
2 Dylan Grimes
3 Brett Deledio (vc)
4 Dustin Martin
5 Brandon Ellis
6 Shaun Grigg
7 Matt Dea
8 Jack Riewoldt
9 Trent Cotchin (c)
10 Shane Edwards
11 Jake Batchelor
12 David Astbury
14 Bachar Houli
15 Chris Knights
16 Luke McGuane
18 Alex Rance
20 Ivan Maric
21 Shane Tuck
23 Daniel Jackson
24 Ben Griffiths
25 Troy Chaplin
26 Robin Nahas
27 Aaron Edwards
28 Jake King
29 Tyrone Vickery
30 Reece Conca
31 Nick Vlastuin
32 Brad Helbig
33 Kamdyn McIntosh
34 Liam McBean
35 Matthew White
36 Matthew McDonough
38 Steven Morris
39 Tom Derickx
41 Nathan Foley
43 Todd Elton
44 Matthew Arnot
45 Brett O'Hanlon
Richmond Tigers Rookie List 2013
13 Ricky Petterd
22 Sam Lonergan
37 Orren Stephenson
40 Cadeyn Williams
48 Ben Darrou
49 Steven Verrier
50 Gideon Simon
Head Coach
Damien Hardwick
Assistant Coaches
Wayne Campbell
Justin Leppitsch
Brendon Lade
Danny Daly
Ross Smith
Mark Williams
Mark Williams (development)
Greg Mellor (development)
weeeeeeee!!!
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Jackson is a FA. Can't "trade".
I'd trade Nahas.
Yes, you can. Learn more
Not if they are unrestricted like Jacko. Why would you trade for something you can take for free?
Restricted like Buddy means Hawks can match the offer and Buddy goes get stuffed and then a trade needs to be done.
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Delist
Helbig
Arnot
Bit harsh on those 2 Stripes
Helbig's had a couple of nasty foot injuries and Arnot hasn't even been given a go despite solid VFL form.
Think Arnot needs to play some AFL footy before he gets turfed
And I'd turf O'Hanlon before Arnot ;D
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Arnot can't kick for poo. It's not surprising he can't get a game despite getting a lot of the ball at VFL
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Arnot can't kick for poo. It's not surprising he can't get a game despite getting a lot of the ball at VFL
Either can Jacko apart from when it comes to kicking goals from the boundary but he's manage over 100 games
And our captain can be a very good ball butcher at times too ;D
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And Lonergan. Edwards has/had his kicking issues and only recently have they become less noticeable. Tuck?
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Delist
Helbig
Arnot
Bit harsh on those 2 Stripes
Helbig's had a couple of nasty foot injuries and Arnot hasn't even been given a go despite solid VFL form.
Think Arnot needs to play some AFL footy before he gets turfed
And I'd turf O'Hanlon before Arnot ;D
Yes probably am being harsh on those two but come the end of the season we have to delist some players and these two can't seem to push into the side. We have midfield depth and will probably get more quality through the draft next year so some of these types need to make way. You're right though, O'Hanlon may get his orders before Helbig though Arnot I fear could be in strife.
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1 Michael Hibberd
2 Tom Bellchambers
3 Scott Gumbleton
4 Jobe Watson (c)
5 Brent Stanton
6 Joe Daniher
7 Leroy Jetta
8 Jason Winderlich
9 Brendon Goddard
10 Nick O'Brien
11 David Zaharakis
12 Stewart Crameri
14 Jason Ashby
15 Courtenay Dempsey
16 Tayte Pears
17 Jake Melksham
18 Michael Hurley
19 David Hille (vet)
20 Jackson Merrett
21 Dyson Heppell
22 Jake Carlisle
23 David Myers
24 Alex Browne
26 Cale Hooker
27 Luke Davis
28 Elliott Kavanagh
29 Alwyn Davey
30 Paddy Ryder
31 Dustin Fletcher (vet)
32 Travis Colyer
33 Dylan Van Unen
34 Kyle Hardingham
35 Martin Gleeson
37 Sean Gregory
38 Nick Kommer
39 Heath Hocking
40 Ben Howlett
41 Will Hams
42 Nathan Lovett-Murray
46 Mark Baguley
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1 Michael Hibberd
2 Tom Bellchambers
3 Scott Gumbleton
4 Jobe Watson (c)
5 Brent Stanton
6 Joe Daniher
7 Leroy Jetta
8 Jason Winderlich
9 Brendon Goddard
10 Nick O'Brien
11 David Zaharakis
12 Stewart Crameri
14 Jason Ashby
15 Courtenay Dempsey
16 Tayte Pears
17 Jake Melksham
18 Michael Hurley
19 David Hille (vet)
20 Jackson Merrett
21 Dyson Heppell
22 Jake Carlisle
23 David Myers
24 Alex Browne
26 Cale Hooker
27 Luke Davis
28 Elliott Kavanagh
29 Alwyn Davey
30 Paddy Ryder
31 Dustin Fletcher (vet)
32 Travis Colyer
33 Dylan Van Unen
34 Kyle Hardingham
35 Martin Gleeson
37 Sean Gregory
38 Nick Kommer
39 Heath Hocking
40 Ben Howlett
41 Will Hams
42 Nathan Lovett-Murray
46 Mark Baguley
hahahahahahaha your best post to date
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Arnot can't kick for poo. It's not surprising he can't get a game despite getting a lot of the ball at VFL
Either can Jacko apart from when it comes to kicking goals from the boundary but he's manage over 100 games
And our captain can be a very good ball butcher at times too ;D
Arnot would be lucky to be half as good as Jacko when it comes to kicking. He's also a liability with his anger. It's not like he's a skinny kid or he lack a tank or he's had injuries. If he can crack a game then he may be kept. Otherwise doubt it.
I agree with you on Helbig. He should stay. Will be a good player when gets a good run at it.
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Jackson is a FA. Can't "trade".
I'd trade Nahas.
Yes, you can. Learn more
Not if they are unrestricted like Jacko. Why would you trade for something you can take for free?
Restricted like Buddy means Hawks can match the offer and Buddy goes get stuffed and then a trade needs to be done.
Oh, so you can take any player you want without their consent as long as they're an unrestricted free agent hey bro? Learn more. Blumfield board. Jacko can be traded but he won't so STFU everyone and let go of the pipe dream. He's actually been solid this season
And learn more
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Jackson is a FA. Can't "trade".
I'd trade Nahas.
Yes, you can. Learn more
Not if they are unrestricted like Jacko. Why would you trade for something you can take for free?
Restricted like Buddy means Hawks can match the offer and Buddy goes get stuffed and then a trade needs to be done.
Oh, so you can take any player you want without their consent as long as they're an unrestricted free agent hey bro? Learn more. Blumfield board. Jacko can be traded but he won't so STFU everyone and let go of the pipe dream. He's actually been solid this season
And learn more
You can take them without their clubs consent. They can't get Jacko if he doesn't want to go. Nor can you trade someone against their will.
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Jackson is a FA. Can't "trade".
I'd trade Nahas.
Yes, you can. Learn more
Not if they are unrestricted like Jacko. Why would you trade for something you can take for free?
Restricted like Buddy means Hawks can match the offer and Buddy goes get stuffed and then a trade needs to be done.
Oh, so you can take any player you want without their consent as long as they're an unrestricted free agent hey bro? Learn more. Blumfield board. Jacko can be traded but he won't so STFU everyone and let go of the pipe dream. He's actually been solid this season
And learn more
You can take them without their clubs consent. They can't get Jacko if he doesn't want to go. Nor can you trade someone against their will.
No stuffing poo you can take them without the clubs consent, that's the whole point. As for the other bit, Blumfield board. Look it up. A contracted player can't be traded against their will
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Jackson is a FA. Can't "trade".
I'd trade Nahas.
Yes, you can. Learn more
Not if they are unrestricted like Jacko. Why would you trade for something you can take for free?
Restricted like Buddy means Hawks can match the offer and Buddy goes get stuffed and then a trade needs to be done.
Oh, so you can take any player you want without their consent as long as they're an unrestricted free agent hey bro? Learn more. Blumfield board. Jacko can be traded but he won't so STFU everyone and let go of the pipe dream. He's actually been solid this season
And learn more
You can take them without their clubs consent. They can't get Jacko if he doesn't want to go. Nor can you trade someone against their will.
No stuffing poo you can take them without the clubs consent, that's the whole point. As for the other bit, Blumfield board. Look it up. A contracted player can't be traded against their will
Tigs is confusing footy with his harem.
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WHere's mrakov? surely she has something to add
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Jackson is a FA. Can't "trade".
I'd trade Nahas.
Yes, you can. Learn more
Not if they are unrestricted like Jacko. Why would you trade for something you can take for free?
Restricted like Buddy means Hawks can match the offer and Buddy goes get stuffed and then a trade needs to be done.
Oh, so you can take any player you want without their consent as long as they're an unrestricted free agent hey bro? Learn more. Blumfield board. Jacko can be traded but he won't so STFU everyone and let go of the pipe dream. He's actually been solid this season
And learn more
You can take them without their clubs consent. They can't get Jacko if he doesn't want to go. Nor can you trade someone against their will.
No stuffing poo you can take them without the clubs consent, that's the whole point. As for the other bit, Blumfield board. Look it up. A contracted player can't be traded against their will
My point is you can't trade an unrestricted FA. They'll just walk. Jackson is therefore untradeable. That along with no one would offer anything. ;D
Blumfield if he desperately didn't want to play for us could have not signed a contract with us. :whistle
We could give up a 1st rounder for Denis Armfield if we want to but if he doesn't sign a contract it's kind of a waste. ;)
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Also, my understanding of Blumfield was Essendon couldn't fit him in the salary cap so he had to go. So it was either Richmond or scrap heap. :cheers
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1 Michael Hibberd
2 Tom Bellchambers
3 Scott Gumbleton
4 Jobe Watson (c)
5 Brent Stanton
6 Joe Daniher
7 Leroy Jetta
8 Jason Winderlich
9 Brendon Goddard
10 Nick O'Brien
11 David Zaharakis
12 Stewart Crameri
14 Jason Ashby
15 Courtenay Dempsey
16 Tayte Pears
17 Jake Melksham
18 Michael Hurley
19 David Hille (vet)
20 Jackson Merrett
21 Dyson Heppell
22 Jake Carlisle
23 David Myers
24 Alex Browne
26 Cale Hooker
27 Luke Davis
28 Elliott Kavanagh
29 Alwyn Davey
30 Paddy Ryder
31 Dustin Fletcher (vet)
32 Travis Colyer
33 Dylan Van Unen
34 Kyle Hardingham
35 Martin Gleeson
37 Sean Gregory
38 Nick Kommer
39 Heath Hocking
40 Ben Howlett
41 Will Hams
42 Nathan Lovett-Murray
46 Mark Baguley
hahahahahahaha your best post to date
Why Thank you. :thumbsup
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we only need to cut 6 from the list proper.
6 would allow for 4 nd picks. 1 free agent and 1 trade.
would hope we could end up with 1 first round pick. 2 second round picks and 1 3rd round pick. all decent nd picks to use on kids and continue to look after the long term.
to me the 6 most in the gun who have had plenty of time are mature and always revert back to below standard are.
derickx = 3rd rounder.
nahas = 2nd rounder
white = 2nd rounder
mcguane = 1st rounder. in effect we use 4 very good picks to replace duds. ask yourself what would you offer up for these hacks. we would be lucky to get anything for any of them.
rance = trade for promising ruckman in lycett wce or longer bl plus 2nd rnd pick.
would also look to cut 4 rookies stephenson, petterd, lonergan, and verrier. target two kids and two mature types.
jackson = f/a like james frawley what an asset he would be.
have to say im dismayed at people wanting to cut 19 yr olds like arnot and ohanlon even helbig whos had a tough run with injuries.
on top of this we have tuck probably eyeing of retirement it may save someone. personally i hope he goes around for one more season.
for what its worth i have a total of 19 that id be prepared to move on so for me there are options. i think one key for us is to keep some semblance of experience in the list as we are young and inexperienced.
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trade Rance for a promising ruckman?????..
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i know you blokes dont agree but he is a very ordinary player indeed.some areas of his game are appalling and there is just no way he will improve them.
getting a player like frawley in f/a would easily off set the loss of rance. billy longer and a second rnd pick would see us a mile in front on that one.
if i could conjure up a decent deal for vickery id do it in a heart beat but ya know what i doubt wed get anything for him.
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i know you blokes dont agree but he is a very ordinary player indeed.some areas of his game are appalling and there is just no way he will improve them.
getting a player like frawley in f/a would easily off set the loss of rance. billy longer and a second rnd pick would see us a mile in front on that one.
if i could conjure up a decent deal for vickery id do it in a heart beat but ya know what i doubt wed get anything for him.
I'd trade Vickery & 1st round pick for Nic Nat. :thumbsup
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Frawley isn't a Free Agent. Rance has improved a heap. Vickery will be fine. Players that are injured for majority of a season before you can often write off the next season as being ordinary. Look at LeCras. Guy is a gun, but has spudded it up this season.
Matt White won't get delisted either. Playing his role perfectly. No one else can play that role either. I've never been a fan and wanted to cut him for the last 4 years but credit where it's due he's been good last 3 weeks.
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Frawley isn't a Free Agent. Rance has improved a heap. Vickery will be fine. Players that are injured for majority of a season before you can often write off the next season as being ordinary. Look at LeCras. Guy is a gun, but has spudded it up this season.
Matt White won't get delisted either. Playing his role perfectly. No one else can play that role either. I've never been a fan and wanted to cut him for the last 4 years but credit where it's due he's been good last 3 weeks.
The super sub!!!!
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i know you blokes dont agree but he is a very ordinary player indeed.some areas of his game are appalling and there is just no way he will improve them.
getting a player like frawley in f/a would easily off set the loss of rance. billy longer and a second rnd pick would see us a mile in front on that one.
if i could conjure up a decent deal for vickery id do it in a heart beat but ya know what i doubt wed get anything for him.
So you think Rance is a very ordinary player.... Indeed, but you think the Brisbane Lions would give away a player they picked up with pick 8 in the 2011 National draft AND a second round pick for him?? For you to write that it shows me you must rate Rance more than than you let on. Get over it man, you are just making yourself look stupid!!
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Frawley isn't a Free Agent. Rance has improved a heap. Vickery will be fine. Players that are injured for majority of a season before you can often write off the next season as being ordinary. Look at LeCras. Guy is a gun, but has spudded it up this season.
Matt White won't get delisted either. Playing his role perfectly. No one else can play that role either. I've never been a fan and wanted to cut him for the last 4 years but credit where it's due he's been good last 3 weeks.
The super sub!!!!
Can play a decent full game too. Just ask the Eagles. :shh
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Trade Rance? Crazy talk. Then what, depend on Chaplin and Grimes? Astbury, Griffiths?
Chaplin is a great addition but otherwise Rance is the only other solid/dependable/healthy tall back we have. Shoddy kicking at times but a very honest and decent player. Would certainly not trade him. His importance will be highlighted this week VS Saint l, especially if Chaplin doesn't play.
White is a decent player to hold onto for depth/sub. Keep IMO.
McGuane and Nahas = trade. Probably wont get much for anybody else I think. Nobody would take Tuck or Jackson but I think their toughness is very valuable to our midfield.
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J. Gillard
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J. Gillard
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J. Gillard
Boom Boom. :clapping :clapping
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i know you blokes dont agree but he is a very ordinary player indeed.some areas of his game are appalling and there is just no way he will improve them.
getting a player like frawley in f/a would easily off set the loss of rance. billy longer and a second rnd pick would see us a mile in front on that one.
if i could conjure up a decent deal for vickery id do it in a heart beat but ya know what i doubt wed get anything for him.
So you think Rance is a very ordinary player.... Indeed, but you think the Brisbane Lions would give away a player they picked up with pick 8 in the 2011 National draft AND a second round pick for him?? For you to write that it shows me you must rate Rance more than than you let on. Get over it man, you are just making yourself look stupid!!
what you cant take the leap and grasp that a player can be ordinary and still have percieved value.
if i ranked every regular kpd in the comp all 36 of them rance would be in the bottom 10 percent.
oh by the way richard tambling was extremely ordinary but had percieved value. how about jordie mcmahon. at the end of the day it all comes down to how you rate em and me i think rance a poor player.im sure there is some fool club out there prepared to part with plenty for rance especially clubs in need of kpds. hence i mentioned bl and wce.
i mentioned two young ruckmen neither have become regular players hence rance is in front of them both are struggling to get a game because they have other very good players well in front of them.
rank rance highly at your peril but hes a 6 yr player heading towards what 90 100 games and the same problems exist now as they did when we drafted him. ive been thru on numerous occasions the many things he regularly gets wrong surely i dont need to do them again.
i know we can do better than him the fact is we must do better than him.
unfortunately we havent really drafted a young kpd with a decent pick since we drafted rance. for some reason they seem to think their development with the big blokes is so good they can convert forwards to defenders all i can say to that is it aint worked. hence alex to tiger supporters is important because there is no competition for his spot.
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Yep do it elsewhere thanks :sleep
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Rance is a good player. Not perfect but a brave, tough, honest and durable/healthy player. I'd never trade him off before flicking guys like Nahas and McGuane.
Sure Grimes probably has more talent but he's not as physically mature and appears to be very injury-prone. We're paying top $ for Chaplin and it seems to be worth it. If Grimes comes through physically then maybe Rance will end up being a 2nd or 3rd KPD. Not a bad prospect for depth IMO.
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Rance is a good player. Not perfect but a brave, tough, honest and durable/healthy player. I'd never trade him off before flicking guys like Nahas and McGuane.
Sure Grimes probably has more talent but he's not as physically mature and appears to be very injury-prone. We're paying top $ for Chaplin and it seems to be worth it. If Grimes comes through physically then maybe Rance will end up being a 2nd or 3rd KPD. Not a bad prospect for depth IMO.
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West Coast
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Essendrug
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Jackson is a FA. Can't "trade".
I'd trade Nahas.
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I worded my thoughts incorrectly. Nobody would trade for Jackson, if they could get him for free (draft pick / player trade-wise).