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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: one-eyed on October 05, 2009, 04:26:18 AM

Title: Port interested in Simmonds (Australian)
Post by: one-eyed on October 05, 2009, 04:26:18 AM
The recent retirement of Port Adelaide ruckman Brendon Lade has led to the Power desperately seeking a replacement. The club has already made overtures to Carlton about Shaun Hampson and to Melbourne regarding Mark Jamar. Port is today expected to discuss Troy Simmonds' future with Richmond.

http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,26164117-5013406,00.html

Title: Re: Port interested in Simmonds (Australian)
Post by: Go Richo 12 on October 05, 2009, 05:06:37 AM
I thought we re-signed him for a year?
Title: Re: Port interested in Simmonds (Australian)
Post by: Ramps on October 05, 2009, 05:17:21 AM
Hes tradeable because he only has 1 maybe 2 years left,  but he is not tradeable for just Mitch Farmer. Farmer was going to be delisted anyway. Im not saying he is worth much, but he is a ruckman, we dont have a decent experienced ruckman, and as such we should be compensated commensurately.
Title: Re: Port interested in Simmonds (Australian)
Post by: peggles on October 05, 2009, 07:22:49 AM
i think i read on PRE that we had thought about re-signing him but we're putting it off until at least after trade week to see how the landscape changes. 

hopefully we could trade simmo for at least a 3rd or 4th round pick.  at least he would come cheaper than hampson or jamar.  that may be the appeal for port.
Title: Re: Port interested in Simmonds (Australian)
Post by: Jackstar is back on October 05, 2009, 07:50:23 AM
was to sign last week.
Brisbane ,Saints and now Port have shown interest.
He is happy at Punt Road
Title: Re: Port interested in Simmonds (Australian)
Post by: Smokey on October 05, 2009, 09:02:32 AM
..........
He is happy at Punt Road

Yeah great, but that doesn't mean we're happy with him!!   :)
Title: Re: Port interested in Simmonds (Australian)
Post by: Francois Jackson on October 05, 2009, 10:00:24 AM
ooh please Richmond do the deal with Choco.

get rid of this hack once and for all.

Title: Re: Port interested in Simmonds (Australian)
Post by: tdy on October 05, 2009, 12:35:52 PM
Hes tradeable because he only has 1 maybe 2 years left,  but he is not tradeable for just Mitch Farmer. Farmer was going to be delisted anyway. Im not saying he is worth much, but he is a ruckman, we dont have a decent experienced ruckman, and as such we should be compensated commensurately.

I agree he is tradeable, I see us only keeping him as insurance for patto failing to make the grade.  If Port or St Kilda want him and are willing to trade a late 2nd round pick for him I'd take it.
Title: Re: Port interested in Simmonds (Australian)
Post by: Ramps on October 05, 2009, 01:14:48 PM
Neither Simmonds or Pattison are long term answers. We might as well get what we can for Simmonds at this stage IMHO.

Connerly from Freo could be cheap.
Hampson from Carlton wouldnt be cheap but he has alot of potential
Griffen is unhappy at Adelaide

Id certainly be looking at getting 1 of the 3 to RFC this year and even a 2nd if its possible.
Title: Re: Port interested in Simmonds (Australian)
Post by: Beren on October 05, 2009, 03:33:03 PM
..........
He is happy at Punt Road

Yeah great, but that doesn't mean we're happy with him!!   :)

"We"?  ::)
Title: Re: Port interested in Simmonds (Australian)
Post by: Darth Tiger on October 05, 2009, 03:37:16 PM
Connerly from Freo could be cheap.

Do you mean Connolly ?

If so, he has been delisted off Freo's rookie list cos he is a perpetually injured hack.  Could not even get a game in WAFL 2nd's - really that bad.
Title: Re: Port interested in Simmonds (Australian)
Post by: Ramps on October 05, 2009, 03:52:35 PM
didnt know he was that injury prone
Title: Re: Port interested in Simmonds (Australian)
Post by: the_boy_jake on October 05, 2009, 03:59:44 PM
I'm all for the youth policy, but in many ways I think we'd be better off trading Pattison for whatever we can get and keeping Simmonds.

Patto might still have some currency if clubs look at where he was taken. If we trade Simmonds and Pattison spends 12 months being exposed as the dreadful player he is as our no. 1 ruck option he will be untradeable.

Trade Pattison, take whatever pick we get and invest it in the best ruck available in the draft.
Title: Re: Port interested in Simmonds (Australian)
Post by: Ramps on October 05, 2009, 04:10:31 PM
I'm all for the youth policy, but in many ways I think we'd be better off trading Pattison for whatever we can get and keeping Simmonds.

Patto might still have some currency if clubs look at where he was taken. If we trade Simmonds and Pattison spends 12 months being exposed as the dreadful player he is as our no. 1 ruck option he will be untradeable.

Trade Pattison, take whatever pick we get and invest it in the best ruck available in the draft.

I agree getting rid of Pattison and Simmonds now is the best option, but we need to find replacements. Can we find them? And how much would they cost?
Title: Re: Port interested in Simmonds (Australian)
Post by: the_boy_jake on October 05, 2009, 07:32:11 PM

I agree getting rid of Pattison and Simmonds now is the best option, but we need to find replacements. Can we find them? And how much would they cost?

Reckon if you look at rucks who have been traded over the last few years some clubs have done pretty well.

King was pick 90
Gardiner was for exchanging 30-something for 40-something
Hudson was around pick 30
Warnock might be seen as expensive with pick 24 & 70ish but he could do a job for 7-8 years at the blues and it frees up Kreuzer.

 Like I said, I just think we have to get the best out of this list and for Patto I reckon that means securing whatever we can get for a trade. If we got anything like pick 40 or 50 I'd be ecstatic. Even when we won the hitouts last season we'd get smashed in the clearances so if we need a stopgap ruck solution until we have the guys to win the stoppages I'm not bothered. Patto's not going to get any better though and is a mile off being a no. 1 ruck now.
Title: Re: Port interested in Simmonds (Australian)
Post by: one-eyed on October 05, 2009, 07:34:20 PM
The Swans have said today they will chase a second experienced ruckman if Jolly is traded....

http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/85757/default.aspx

Would they be interested in Simmo?
Title: Re: Port interested in Simmonds (Australian)
Post by: Ramps on October 05, 2009, 07:34:32 PM
Ports 3rd round pick is 40. Cant see Port offering us 40 for Simmonds however.
Title: Re: Port interested in Simmonds (Australian)
Post by: Danog on October 05, 2009, 07:41:05 PM
Williams has lost it.  I can definitely see that happening.
Title: Re: Port interested in Simmonds (Australian)
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on October 05, 2009, 08:53:32 PM
Williams has lost it.  I can definitely see that happening.

I think Williams has lost the passion there. It is obvious the relationship between board and coach is very fractured. It was almost as if he was acked he would not have minded. I don't think Simmonds is worth pick 40 but throw in Simmonds and Hughes or Edwards or all 3 and maybe pick 24 and Mitch Farmer and we may be able to make the deal more attractive to both sides to trade.
Title: Re: Port interested in Simmonds (Australian)
Post by: Ramps on October 05, 2009, 09:05:36 PM
Williams has lost it.  I can definitely see that happening.

It would be a coup for Richmond to get pick 40 for Simmonds who should be retiring at this point in time, and who probably would have been retired or delisted had our ruck stocks not been as deplorable as they are.
Title: Re: Port interested in Simmonds (Australian)
Post by: torch on October 05, 2009, 10:48:22 PM
i thought we signed him?

 ???
Title: Re: Port interested in Simmonds (Australian)
Post by: the claw on October 05, 2009, 11:12:00 PM
its well and good to say send him to port or sydney. we forget one thing he left freo because of the go home factor he has to agree and he wont.

ive mentioned this on other boards imo we should chase sam jacobs at carlton. rookie listed player and carlton have to make a decision on him. with kruezer hampson and warnock all in front of him and cloke pinch hitting in the ruck this bloke should be made to see there is no future for him there.
 may not be a world beater but is young has improvement in him and has shown some good signs he would be an improvement on anything we currently have. to top it off would come cheap.