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Title: Richmond's Pick 19 going elsewhere (Herald-Sun)
Post by: one-eyed on October 08, 2009, 04:11:43 AM
From today's Herald-Sun pg 93

RICHMOND
Some speculation about its pick 19 going elsewhere, but keen to build from the ground up.

 ???
Title: Re: Richmond's Pick 19 going elsewhere (Herald-Sun)
Post by: Ramps on October 08, 2009, 06:32:44 AM
who knows - hopefully an upgrade to 19 so we can get Black or Griffiths.
Title: Re: Richmond's Pick 19 going elsewhere (Herald-Sun)
Post by: Tigermonk on October 08, 2009, 07:24:33 AM
we be probably giving pick 19 away to the womens league & being the 1st club to draft a woman, so that we have someone to match McMahon  ;D
Title: Re: Richmond's Pick 19 going elsewhere (Herald-Sun)
Post by: wayne on October 08, 2009, 09:07:39 AM
God I hope we're thinking of a player and 19 for an earlier pick.
Title: Re: Richmond's Pick 19 going elsewhere (Herald-Sun)
Post by: tigersalive on October 08, 2009, 09:10:08 AM
Yeah sure sure.  Just something to fuel the masses.
Title: Re: Richmond's Pick 19 going elsewhere (Herald-Sun)
Post by: wayne on October 08, 2009, 11:15:26 AM
I just had my question on the HUN website answered.

11:08 [Comment From wayne]
Surely Richmond are not looking to trade pick 19. Look what happened the last time we did that! 
 
11:09 My understanding is they won't swap pick 19 unless they can get a youngish player of genuine quality 

Title: Re: Richmond's Pick 19 going elsewhere (Herald-Sun)
Post by: torch on October 08, 2009, 11:25:08 AM
I just had my question on the HUN website answered.

11:08 [Comment From wayne]
Surely Richmond are not looking to trade pick 19. Look what happened the last time we did that! 
 
11:09 My understanding is they won't swap pick 19 unless they can get a youngish player of genuine quality 



Callum Ward maybe?

 :P
Title: Re: Richmond's Pick 19 going elsewhere (Herald-Sun)
Post by: WA Tiger on October 08, 2009, 11:34:56 AM
Would have to be for an earlier draft pick surely, we couldnt be that stupid again, it maybe tied up in the Fev deal someware along the line which lands us an earlier pick than 19... :pray :clapping
Title: Re: Richmond's Pick 19 going elsewhere (Herald-Sun)
Post by: torch on October 08, 2009, 11:50:40 AM
Would have to be for an earlier draft pick surely, we couldnt be that stupid again, it maybe tied up in the Fev deal someware along the line which lands us an earlier pick than 19... :pray :clapping

hopefully another first round pick!

 :)
Title: Re: Richmond's Pick 19 going elsewhere (Herald-Sun)
Post by: tiga on October 08, 2009, 11:55:51 AM
Maybe a 19 & Tuck bundle for something really good.  :pray
Title: Re: Richmond's Pick 19 going elsewhere (Herald-Sun)
Post by: JVT on October 08, 2009, 12:18:47 PM
Someone contact our recruiters and try to swing this:

Pick 19 + Tuck for Sydneys Pick 6.
Title: Re: Richmond's Pick 19 going elsewhere (Herald-Sun)
Post by: WA Tiger on October 08, 2009, 12:23:49 PM
Someone contact our recruiters and try to swing this:

Pick 19 + Tuck for Sydneys Pick 6.

Geeeeezus VT, we could only wish that one, maybe Tuck, MacMahon & pick 19 for pick 6. :thumbsup
Title: Re: Richmond's Pick 19 going elsewhere (Herald-Sun)
Post by: JVT on October 08, 2009, 12:28:31 PM
Someone contact our recruiters and try to swing this:

Pick 19 + Tuck for Sydneys Pick 6.

Geeeeezus VT, we could only wish that one, maybe Tuck, MacMahon & pick 19 for pick 6. :thumbsup
Haha WAT, McMahon would work in a negative manner and sour the deal instead of sweeten, like the thought though!
Title: Re: Richmond's Pick 19 going elsewhere (Herald-Sun)
Post by: tiga on October 08, 2009, 12:30:53 PM
As I said in another thread, I wonder if it is going to the Crows for Griffen?? They do want a second rounder for him...
Title: Re: Richmond's Pick 19 going elsewhere (Herald-Sun)
Post by: Jacosh on October 08, 2009, 12:54:54 PM
Someone contact our recruiters and try to swing this:

Pick 19 + Tuck for Sydneys Pick 6.

Then we are going to on trade pick 6 and McMahon for Burgoyne and Ports second round pick.
Title: Re: Richmond's Pick 19 going elsewhere (Herald-Sun)
Post by: tiga on October 08, 2009, 02:03:15 PM
Someone contact our recruiters and try to swing this:

Pick 19 + Tuck for Sydneys Pick 6.

Then we are going to on trade pick 6 and McMahon for Burgoyne and Ports second round pick.
Not interested in sloppy seconds. Burgoyne has already made his club preferences clear and we weren't part of his plans. If it were to come true, I would have immediate doubts over his commitment.
Title: Re: Richmond's Pick 19 going elsewhere (Herald-Sun)
Post by: torch on October 08, 2009, 04:43:22 PM
Tuck + Pick 19 ----> Pick 6 and Sydney's Second Round Pick!

 :)
Title: Re: Richmond's Pick 19 going elsewhere (Herald-Sun)
Post by: Judge Roughneck on October 08, 2009, 05:27:19 PM
Would love to trade 19 + a player for top 7-10 pick and try and get Butcher

Tuck + Pick 19 ----> Pick 6 and Sydney's Second Round Pick! -> would love this
Title: Re: Richmond's Pick 19 going elsewhere (Herald-Sun)
Post by: Danog on October 08, 2009, 05:48:09 PM
You're all deluded.  I would take pick 19 and Tuck for pick 14 from the Swans.
Title: Re: Richmond's Pick 19 going elsewhere (Herald-Sun)
Post by: Judge Roughneck on October 08, 2009, 05:51:13 PM
You're all deluded.  I would take pick 19 and Tuck for pick 14 from the Swans.

would take this also
Title: Re: Richmond's Pick 19 going elsewhere (Herald-Sun)
Post by: Danog on October 08, 2009, 05:59:44 PM
To be honest, I'd want a second pick upgrade as well.  Just not sure which picks we'll have left.
Title: Re: Richmond's Pick 19 going elsewhere (Herald-Sun)
Post by: WilliamPowell on October 08, 2009, 07:53:20 PM
I can't see Tucky (unfortunately) getting us anything more than a 2nd round pick

Can't see the Swans coughing up pick 14 for Tucky + pick 19

Would love it to happen but cannot see it happening
Title: Re: Richmond's Pick 19 going elsewhere (Herald-Sun)
Post by: Danog on October 08, 2009, 07:58:01 PM
You think that Sydney would do pick 28 for Tuck, but not 19 and Tuck for 14?
Title: Re: Richmond's Pick 19 going elsewhere (Herald-Sun)
Post by: WilliamPowell on October 08, 2009, 08:02:25 PM
You think that Sydney would do pick 28 for Tuck, but not 19 and Tuck for 14?

Yeah I can see them giving up pick 28

But I can't see them giving up pick 14

Tuck pick 19  and another RFC player for pick 14 - can see that but not Tucky on his lonesome

To be honest I'm finding hard to see Tucky being traded at all
Title: Re: Richmond's Pick 19 going elsewhere (Herald-Sun)
Post by: mightytiges on October 08, 2009, 08:04:36 PM
We've offload Bowden (not on senior list), Sugar, Brown, Cogs, Schulz and Raines officially. Cleve, JON and Petts gone unofficially. We gain Farmer and will probably promote Nahas which would leave us with six picks.

Picks: 3, 19, 35, 44, 51 and PSD#2

Hopefully we can score another pick in the 20s involving Tucky :pray.
Title: Re: Richmond's Pick 19 going elsewhere (Herald-Sun)
Post by: Ramps on October 08, 2009, 08:28:18 PM
We've offload Bowden (not on senior list), Sugar, Brown, Cogs, Schulz and Raines officially. Cleve, JON and Petts gone unofficially. We gain Farmer and will probably promote Nahas which would leave us with six picks.

Picks: 3, 19, 35, 44, 51 and PSD#2

Hopefully we can score another pick in the 20s involving Tucky :pray.


would be an outstanding result IMHO.
Title: Re: Richmond's Pick 19 going elsewhere (Herald-Sun)
Post by: mightytiges on October 08, 2009, 08:38:36 PM
We've offload Bowden (not on senior list), Sugar, Brown, Cogs, Schulz and Raines officially. Cleve, JON and Petts gone unofficially. We gain Farmer and will probably promote Nahas which would leave us with six picks.

Picks: 3, 19, 35, 44, 51 and PSD#2

Hopefully we can score another pick in the 20s involving Tucky :pray.


would be an outstanding result IMHO.
Alter that to picks 3, 19, 35, 40, 44 and PSD#2.

Now does anyone want Tucky?! :-\
Title: Re: Richmond's Pick 19 going elsewhere (Herald-Sun)
Post by: WA Tiger on October 08, 2009, 10:17:08 PM
We've offload Bowden (not on senior list), Sugar, Brown, Cogs, Schulz and Raines officially. Cleve, JON and Petts gone unofficially. We gain Farmer and will probably promote Nahas which would leave us with six picks.

Picks: 3, 19, 35, 44, 51 and PSD#2

Hopefully we can score another pick in the 20s involving Tucky :pray.


would be an outstanding result IMHO.
Alter that to picks 3, 19, 35, 40, 44 and PSD#2.

Now does anyone want Tucky?! :-\

Not sure there will be anything left in the PSD MT, really thought a couple of these trades would have gone askew but clubs are too smart for that now!!
Title: Re: Richmond's Pick 19 going elsewhere (Herald-Sun)
Post by: taztiger4 on October 08, 2009, 10:20:11 PM








would be an outstanding result IMHO.

Alter that to picks 3, 19, 35, 40, 44 and PSD#2.



pick 40 is Geelongs isnt it ?
Title: Re: Richmond's Pick 19 going elsewhere (Herald-Sun)
Post by: mightytiges on October 08, 2009, 10:48:34 PM








would be an outstanding result IMHO.

Alter that to picks 3, 19, 35, 40, 44 and PSD#2.



pick 40 is Geelongs isnt it ?
Yep it is. SEN told us first we upgraded pick 51 to 40 but they were wrong.

So it's back to picks 3, 19, 35, 44, 51 and PSD#2.

WAT if there's nothing available in the PSD then we can always use our next National draft pick 67 instead and forget about the PSD. It depends on what is available. I've heard we will use our PSD pick and get a bunch of players down to Tigerland and test them out first hand as we have done previously just prior to the PSD in mid-December.
Title: Re: Richmond's Pick 19 going elsewhere (Herald-Sun)
Post by: torch on October 08, 2009, 11:21:38 PM
i think we should take Sydney's Pick 6 and give them Tuck and Pick 19.

two picks in the first round (3 & 6) would be fantastic!

Dustin Martin and another midfielder or tall forward!

 :)
Title: Re: Richmond's Pick 19 going elsewhere (Herald-Sun)
Post by: Danog on October 08, 2009, 11:25:48 PM
You're delusional if you think that Tuck is worth that much.
Title: Re: Richmond's Pick 19 going elsewhere (Herald-Sun)
Post by: torch on October 08, 2009, 11:42:05 PM
To be honest, I'd want a second pick upgrade as well.  Just not sure which picks we'll have left.

well we only have Pick 19 (Second Round), so to upgrade would be to either Sydney's Pick 6 or Pick 14 in the First Round.

which would leave us with Two First Round Picks and no Second Round Picks!

however i would take Pick 14 ---> Shane Tuck.

yes Pick 6 is high, but if we offer Pick 16 & Shane Tuck would be great!

Sydney at the moment only has 4 picks!

3 is the minimum.

 :)

be bold Richmond!

take Pick 6!

 :)
Title: Re: Richmond's Pick 19 going elsewhere (Herald-Sun)
Post by: WA Tiger on October 09, 2009, 12:43:00 AM








would be an outstanding result IMHO.

Alter that to picks 3, 19, 35, 40, 44 and PSD#2.



pick 40 is Geelongs isnt it ?
Yep it is. SEN told us first we upgraded pick 51 to 40 but they were wrong.

So it's back to picks 3, 19, 35, 44, 51 and PSD#2.

WAT if there's nothing available in the PSD then we can always use our next National draft pick 67 instead and forget about the PSD. It depends on what is available. I've heard we will use our PSD pick and get a bunch of players down to Tigerland and test them out first hand as we have done previously just prior to the PSD in mid-December.

And so far Geelong has ended up with these picks, 17, 28, 40 and 42  how do they do it..... yeah yeah more to trade but really what have they lost????? Add to that, they actually have pick 17 before our pick 19, pick 28 before our pick 35, pick 40 before our pick 44 and pick 42 before our pick 51.

Geeeezus other than pick 3 they have nailed it, we should have at least tried to upgrade some of those picks, I think we have failed a bit after looking at the pick comparisens!!!

Title: Re: Richmond's Pick 19 going elsewhere (Herald-Sun)
Post by: Judge Roughneck on October 09, 2009, 01:38:06 AM
Hopefully we can score another pick in the 20s involving Tucky :pray.


 :pray
Title: Re: Richmond's Pick 19 going elsewhere (Herald-Sun)
Post by: Ramps on October 09, 2009, 07:02:35 AM
Hopefully we can score another pick in the 20s involving Tucky :pray.


 :pray

We are all praying but its gonna be difficult. Maybe Essendon will make a late play, maybe St Kilda if they get rid of Ball. Pattison is the one that Im hoping we may get something decent for in terms of draft pick. McMahon was always difficult coz he has a contract. Thanks Plough. At least he'll be gone in 12 months to.
Title: Re: Richmond's Pick 19 going elsewhere (Herald-Sun)
Post by: richmondrules on October 09, 2009, 07:52:42 AM
Some speculation that pick 19 may become pick 16 in a swap with Port as part of the deal for Schulz.
Title: Re: Richmond's Pick 19 going elsewhere (Herald-Sun)
Post by: Tigermonk on October 09, 2009, 07:59:45 AM
Some speculation that pick 19 may become pick 16 in a swap with Port as part of the deal for Schulz.

not in you life
Title: Re: Richmond's Pick 19 going elsewhere (Herald-Sun)
Post by: Smokey on October 09, 2009, 09:55:45 AM

And so far Geelong has ended up with these picks, 17, 28, 40 and 42  how do they do it..... yeah yeah more to trade but really what have they lost????? Add to that, they actually have pick 17 before our pick 19, pick 28 before our pick 35, pick 40 before our pick 44 and pick 42 before our pick 51.

Geeeezus other than pick 3 they have nailed it, we should have at least tried to upgrade some of those picks, I think we have failed a bit after looking at the pick comparisens!!!


All looks good until Ottens goes down with another injury (which is a very real possibility given his history).  Watch them struggle with Blake and no back up.  Their trading has not been without risk of getting it badly wrong either.
Title: Re: Richmond's Pick 19 going elsewhere (Herald-Sun)
Post by: Mr Magic on October 09, 2009, 10:18:24 PM
Thank the lord this didn't eventuate.
Title: Re: Richmond's Pick 19 going elsewhere (Herald-Sun)
Post by: big tone on October 09, 2009, 10:20:15 PM

And so far Geelong has ended up with these picks, 17, 28, 40 and 42  how do they do it..... yeah yeah more to trade but really what have they lost????? Add to that, they actually have pick 17 before our pick 19, pick 28 before our pick 35, pick 40 before our pick 44 and pick 42 before our pick 51.

Geeeezus other than pick 3 they have nailed it, we should have at least tried to upgrade some of those picks, I think we have failed a bit after looking at the pick comparisens!!!


All looks good until Ottens goes down with another injury (which is a very real possibility given his history).  Watch them struggle with Blake and no back up.  Their trading has not been without risk of getting it badly wrong either.
What about West? He is still on thier list isn't he or did they get a first rounder for him to!
Title: Re: Richmond's Pick 19 going elsewhere (Herald-Sun)
Post by: Smokey on October 09, 2009, 10:59:12 PM

All looks good until Ottens goes down with another injury (which is a very real possibility given his history).  Watch them struggle with Blake and no back up.  Their trading has not been without risk of getting it badly wrong either.
What about West? He is still on thier list isn't he or did they get a first rounder for him to!

 :)  The way it all fell into place for them you wouldn't be surprised!

Yep, he's still there.  Turns 22 next weekend and his career stats so far read 7 games (1 in '09 - R3), averages 0.9 kicks, 1.9 marks, 4.1 handballs, 7.6 hitouts.  He stands 198cm tall.

Let's compare him to Pattison.  Turned 23 in March, 61 games (8 in '09), averages 4.4 kicks, 3.9 marks, 6.6 handballs, 6.9 hitouts.  He stands 198cm tall.

Or Graham.  Turned 22 in April, 18 games (16 in '09), averages 2.7 kicks, 3.2 marks, 5.9 handballs, 13.6 hitouts.  He stands 201cm tall.

As I said, if Ottens goes down then Geelong are in a world of hurt unless they unearth another Mumford - Blake is not good enough to carry the ruck for that team for another tilt at a flag.