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Title: Deledio needs to go to the next level this year: Robbo
Post by: one-eyed on February 01, 2010, 02:03:12 PM
Robbo just now on SEN on Lids :

Time for Brett to do more than people just hoping he does well and when they look at him he needs to do more than just look back. He needs to become the type of player who says to his teammates hey give me the ball and I'll do something with it. We've been a waiting a long time. He's a good to very good footballer but not a great one.

When a caller rang in saying Lids has won back-to-back B&Fs Robbo said he may have been harsh but he believes Deledio can be a Brownlow winner if he goes to that next level he believes Brett is capable of.
Title: Re: Deledio needs to go to the next level this year: Robbo
Post by: torch on February 02, 2010, 12:01:35 AM
Robbo just now on SEN on Lids :

Time for Brett to do more than people just hoping he does well and when they look at him he needs to do more than just look back. He needs to become the type of player who says to his teammates hey give me the ball and I'll do something with it. We've been a waiting a long time. He's a good to very good footballer but not a great one.

When a caller rang in saying Lids has won back-to-back B&Fs Robbo said he may have been harsh but he believes Deledio can be a Brownlow winner if he goes to that next level he believes Brett is capable of.

agree Robbo!

he won two B&F under Wallace! enough said!

under Jade, he played better in the second half because he was thinking of his contract!

 :)
Title: Re: Deledio needs to go to the next level this year: Robbo
Post by: WA Tiger on February 02, 2010, 12:26:02 AM
Gee really Robbo you little brain surgeon you..... problem is his team mates have to get the freaking ball first for him to say give it to me ra ra ra.
Title: Re: Deledio needs to go to the next level this year: Robbo
Post by: MADTIGER2010 on February 02, 2010, 12:06:36 PM
I think Robbo is forgetting Lids is still only 22  ;)
Title: Re: Deledio needs to go to the next level this year: Robbo
Post by: Ramps on February 02, 2010, 02:04:35 PM
When Cotchin becomes injury free and Martin starts to contribute we will see Lids become a much better player. One player cant do it on his own and lets be honest, weve been lite on for class in the midfield for a long while now.
Title: Re: Deledio needs to go to the next level this year: Robbo
Post by: Smokey on February 02, 2010, 04:11:15 PM
When Cotchin becomes injury free and Martin starts to contribute we will see Lids become a much better player. One player cant do it on his own .........

And when all that happens watch Foley 'appear' to step up also!
Title: Re: Deledio needs to go to the next level this year: Robbo
Post by: Penelope on February 02, 2010, 05:27:04 PM
There would probably be a few others too smokey.
Title: Re: Deledio needs to go to the next level this year: Robbo
Post by: TigerTimeII on February 02, 2010, 06:23:14 PM
When Cotchin becomes injury free and Martin starts to contribute we will see Lids become a much better player. One player cant do it on his own .........

And when all that happens watch Foley 'appear' to step up also!

foley will struggle to get a game even if fit if all our mids liv eup to their potential
cuz, cotch, deledio, tambling, martin, and we have guys with beter foot skills lik emorton, polo , nahas, who can rotate through

foley will be found out this yr if not next
Title: Re: Deledio needs to go to the next level this year: Robbo
Post by: Penelope on February 02, 2010, 06:31:34 PM
Found out for what?
Title: Re: Deledio needs to go to the next level this year: Robbo
Post by: TigerTimeII on February 02, 2010, 06:46:44 PM
found out that he isnt as good as rfc and its fas think he is
geelong didnt want him for a reason, he cant hit targets, sure he is a ball magnet but half his touches go straight to the opposition or no where , should have traded him whil ehe had a reasonable reputation
Title: Re: Deledio needs to go to the next level this year: Robbo
Post by: Penelope on February 02, 2010, 07:26:33 PM


Are you sure it's half his touches?
Title: Re: Deledio needs to go to the next level this year: Robbo
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on February 02, 2010, 07:45:10 PM
found out that he isnt as good as rfc and its fas think he is
geelong didnt want him for a reason, he cant hit targets, sure he is a ball magnet but half his touches go straight to the opposition or no where , should have traded him whil ehe had a reasonable reputation

I thought Geelong had these two blokes called Ablett and Bartel.

Nevertheless Foley is alot better than waht you say. Last year it was Lids case you were on this year its Foley on your radar. In Foley we have a player who has pace and can win his own ball. In the best case scenario where Axel Cotch and Martin are fit and firing I am sure all 3 players would benefit from this as would the team in terms of the workload and getting back to the topic this would make Lids an even better player also.

Lids was great in a woeful side last year but I feel that Foley was even better in a statistically more woeful side in 2007 and as much as I loved the big fella in the 12 jumper when he ran onto the haloed turf how he won the B&F in 2007 ahead of Axel to me is still a mystery.
Title: Re: Deledio needs to go to the next level this year: Robbo
Post by: TigerTimeII on February 02, 2010, 07:52:00 PM
lets discuss this at the end of the season shall we
if i eat humble pie so be it, but i doubt i will need too
Title: Re: Deledio needs to go to the next level this year: Robbo
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on February 02, 2010, 07:57:19 PM
I hope you eat it not for any other reason but as to see Foley excel.
I hope his injury heals quickly so he can give himself the best chance. One thing is for certain however with GC coming in next year if Foley does have a poor year by the standard he set in 2007 and for the first half of 2008 and the club is smart he will be used as trade bait for a hopeful early pick. That's the fine line he's treading.
Title: Re: Deledio needs to go to the next level this year: Robbo
Post by: TigerTimeII on February 02, 2010, 08:14:11 PM
at the end of the day i hope i eat humble pie too, cos i want rfc to succeed and justify his selection, but hardwick wont accept players that continually miss targets , foley skill level has never been his strong pont, finding the pill yes, disposing it properly no
Title: Re: Deledio needs to go to the next level this year: Robbo
Post by: the claw on February 02, 2010, 08:32:06 PM
When Cotchin becomes injury free and Martin starts to contribute we will see Lids become a much better player. One player cant do it on his own .........

And when all that happens watch Foley 'appear' to step up also!

foley will struggle to get a game even if fit if all our mids liv eup to their potential
cuz, cotch, deledio, tambling, martin, and we have guys with beter foot skills lik emorton, polo , nahas, who can rotate through

foley will be found out this yr if not next
sheesh i know foleys footskills leave a bit to be desired but to imply nahas and polo are better kicks is a bit rich. and mortons set shots at goal is terrible atm. oh and i still think tambling better value coming off hb.
Title: Re: Deledio needs to go to the next level this year: Robbo
Post by: Judge Roughneck on February 02, 2010, 08:36:43 PM
If Foley is at his best he will not struggle to get a game
Title: Re: Deledio needs to go to the next level this year: Robbo
Post by: 3rogerd on February 02, 2010, 09:58:32 PM
does Brett have a next level to go to.
Title: Re: Deledio needs to go to the next level this year: Robbo
Post by: TigerTimeII on February 03, 2010, 01:15:31 AM
When Cotchin becomes injury free and Martin starts to contribute we will see Lids become a much better player. One player cant do it on his own .........

And when all that happens watch Foley 'appear' to step up also!

foley will struggle to get a game even if fit if all our mids liv eup to their potential
cuz, cotch, deledio, tambling, martin, and we have guys with beter foot skills lik emorton, polo , nahas, who can rotate through

foley will be found out this yr if not next
sheesh i know foleys footskills leave a bit to be desired but to imply nahas and polo are better kicks is a bit rich. and mortons set shots at goal is terrible atm. oh and i still think tambling better value coming off hb.

polo is a much better kick on both sides than foley, and is a hard nut also, polo is very underrated and will break out this yr under hardwick
morton is a great kick, wallace screwed him, and he is a great onballer too and will play more mid this yr
nahas finds the goals, foley dosnt,
foleys spot isnt safe
Title: Re: Deledio needs to go to the next level this year: Robbo
Post by: Ox on February 03, 2010, 01:40:40 AM
Foley is  poo.

If he wasn'y such a nice bloke he would be gone
Title: Re: Deledio needs to go to the next level this year: Robbo
Post by: tony_montana on February 03, 2010, 11:40:34 AM
does Brett have a next level to go to.

I think he does, but this year will go a long way to determining whether he does. He's a sesoned campaigner with over 100 games experience. Has to step up again and show an ability to carry us fwd,  I know we demand a lot from him but that bc we feel he has all the tools to be elite.
Title: Re: Deledio needs to go to the next level this year: Robbo
Post by: the_boy_jake on February 03, 2010, 11:43:20 AM
Foley is  poo.

If he wasn'y such a nice bloke he would be gone

Agreed.

Should have been traded this offseason or the one before (where we would have got a 1st round pick)
Title: Re: Deledio needs to go to the next level this year: Robbo
Post by: Judge Roughneck on February 04, 2010, 02:51:50 PM
Why would we get a 1st round pick for a player that is "poo"?
Title: Re: Deledio needs to go to the next level this year: Robbo
Post by: tigergirl09 on February 04, 2010, 04:59:40 PM
'welcome' back TT2!! ;)
Title: Re: Deledio needs to go to the next level this year: Robbo
Post by: the claw on February 07, 2010, 01:49:33 PM
When Cotchin becomes injury free and Martin starts to contribute we will see Lids become a much better player. One player cant do it on his own .........

And when all that happens watch Foley 'appear' to step up also!

foley will struggle to get a game even if fit if all our mids liv eup to their potential
cuz, cotch, deledio, tambling, martin, and we have guys with beter foot skills lik emorton, polo , nahas, who can rotate through

foley will be found out this yr if not next
sheesh i know foleys footskills leave a bit to be desired but to imply nahas and polo are better kicks is a bit rich. and mortons set shots at goal is terrible atm. oh and i still think tambling better value coming off hb.

polo is a much better kick on both sides than foley, and is a hard nut also, polo is very underrated and will break out this yr under hardwick
morton is a great kick, wallace screwed him, and he is a great onballer too and will play more mid this yr
nahas finds the goals, foley dosnt,
foleys spot isnt safe
polo has always been an ordinary kick.  and hes not underrated. 6th yr in and here we are still talking about a break out yr. last chance hotel the way i see it. heres hoping.

morton i agree should also be developed thru the midfield.  have said it even when he was at the eagles.
 i disagree his set shot at goal,  it  is atm poo. his footskills are very good but set shots.

 and i dont believe wallace has screwed any one, he could not get a game at the eagles. for good reason as well.
wallace has given him an opportunity. 40 odd games in two seasons and 42 goals in a season for a small/med forward id say hes come along quite well under wallace. if morton wishes to play midfield he has to do the work, no one can do it for him.

sheesh i know nahas has become one of the supporters darlings but  hes no polished gem.for the role he plays i think he needs to somehow improve his footskills a fair bit.and im not having a go at him either he adds to the team atm but i think we can and must do better in time.

and foley yep another whos kicking is ordinary but his real role is at the bottom of packs getting it out. how many do we have that does this.
i will cut him some slack as well. most players struggle when carrying injury.
Title: Re: Deledio needs to go to the next level this year: Robbo
Post by: mightytiges on February 07, 2010, 07:55:16 PM
It was interesting that Hardwick went with Lids, Cotch and Martin as the main centresquare mids. If we can add a further quality mid into the rotation next draft then this will help Lids. Opposition coaches won't in time be able to tag them all. At the moment Lids is copping the main tag because the other 15 senior coaches see him as our main midfield threat to them. Our only midfield threat really with Foley injured and nowhere near 100%.