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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: Go Richo 12 on February 14, 2010, 06:34:31 PM

Title: I just can't believe this.....
Post by: Go Richo 12 on February 14, 2010, 06:34:31 PM
Its the day after our first NAB cup/challenge game and i can't believe what i am reading!!! The same old negative crap is being is being posted by the same old negative people!

We had some big outs from a very young team, are playing a new brand after 5 years and played a team who's position on the ladder last year was not a true indication of their talent. Give everyone go! Who actually thought we were going to be any good this year anyway? This is the only pre season in recent memory where we are not getting propaganda slammed down our throat that raises unrealsitic expectations.

And before the same old tired replies comes, i am sick of under achieving, i have been through the same amount of heart ache as anyone and do get sick of some of our drafting! I just don't see how constantly denigrating players will change what happened in the past. I also don't believe in slagging off players simply because our club made the mistake of drafting them!

Can we, as a group of supporters, actually get behind this group for once?
Title: Re: I just can't believe this.....
Post by: WA Tiger on February 14, 2010, 08:18:10 PM
Can we, as a group of supporters, actually get behind this group for once?

Some of us can GR12 and I totally agree, but the usual suspects will never ever embrace our club or the players. Rather than looking at the positives they continually bring up the negatives, they are just happy to bag the club........unfortunately.

Title: Re: I just can't believe this.....
Post by: Penelope on February 14, 2010, 08:18:47 PM
 I'll drink to that :cheers
Title: Re: I just can't believe this.....
Post by: Ox on February 14, 2010, 08:22:38 PM
*Poofter thread* :birthday
Title: Re: I just can't believe this.....
Post by: the_boy_jake on February 14, 2010, 08:30:01 PM
Its hard to get behind the team when there are 15 other teams behind them gearing up to give them the reaming of their lives.

I honestly think we are capable of going 0-22. At the very best we will win 4 to 5.
Title: Re: I just can't believe this.....
Post by: Penelope on February 14, 2010, 08:30:46 PM
Dont knock it if you havn't tried it .

:birthday

Howd you know, Thanks  :cheers
Title: Re: I just can't believe this.....
Post by: jackstar is back again on February 14, 2010, 08:32:12 PM
Can we, as a group of supporters, actually get behind this group for once?

Some of us can GR12 and I totally agree, but the usual suspects will never ever embrace our club or the players. Rather than looking at the positives they continually bring up the negatives, they are just happy to bag the club........unfortunately.



Mate, I call it as I see it, if the truths hurts , bad luck,
Only positive from last night was Martin.
Problem last night is that, how on earth can you embrace something when we werent even competitive. ::)
They had 2 goals from 4 kicks in the first 2 minutes, you geniuses work that out
People on here give Connors are rap, watched the game again today, his first 4 kicks either went straight to the opposition or resulted in turnovers, you embrace that! :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead
Title: Re: I just can't believe this.....
Post by: Ox on February 14, 2010, 08:38:08 PM
Dont knock it if you havn't tried it .

:birthday

Howd you know, Thanks  :cheers

(http://www.stoppingthehate.com/GayFlagHistory/qq-rb8.gif)


Title: Re: I just can't believe this.....
Post by: crannyvegas on February 14, 2010, 10:00:05 PM
I really don't understand the outcry. The last five years, like it or not, was a waste of time in terms of player & game plan development. I still feel burned by the previous regimens but they rolled the dice it didnt work, move on.

WE ARE STARTING FROM SCRATCH.

Because of previous mis-management we are in the poorest of positions in terms of an onfield team & game style. Hardwick, by most peoples accounts, has done as much pruning as possible. He can't just trade captains and mainstay inside midfielders as their is only a semblance of leadership in the team as it is. Yesterday there was 12 different players playing compared to our opening game against Carlton last year.

Player Turnover + New Game Plan = Losses (Heavy Ones Against Top Four Sides)

It's going to be a long year, and it has to be if we are to ever rise out of this rut of mediocracy.
Title: Re: I just can't believe this.....
Post by: Ox on February 14, 2010, 10:14:24 PM
Sorry Al,i thought you  meant you were a poofter...

Happy Birthday-lol
Title: Re: I just can't believe this.....
Post by: Penelope on February 14, 2010, 10:17:46 PM
I was wondering how you even knew about that flag, it was only the file name that made me realise what it was.

Title: Re: I just can't believe this.....
Post by: tiga on February 14, 2010, 11:28:51 PM
Both the Cats and the Hawks were is the same position as us. Don't you all remember people demanding the heads of Thompson and Clarkson?? They survived by the skin of their teeth and look at them now!! Both teams were losing regularly but they were rebuilding and adjusting game plans just like we are now. We are in the recession we had to have but I can see the light at the end of the tunnel even if it is akin to one of those el cheapo solar garden lights. 
Title: Re: I just can't believe this.....
Post by: Ox on February 14, 2010, 11:31:07 PM
I was wondering how you even knew about that flag, it was only the file name that made me realise what it was.



.....sure al......sure it was. :lol
Title: Re: I just can't believe this.....
Post by: WA Tiger on February 14, 2010, 11:34:32 PM
Both the Cats and the Hawks were is the same position as us. Don't you all remember people demanding the heads of Thompson and Clarkson?? They survived by the skin of their teeth and look at them now!! Both teams were losing regularly but they were rebuilding and adjusting game plans just like we are now. We are in the recession we had to have but I can see the light at the end of the tunnel even if it is akin to one of those el cheapo solar garden lights. 

Yeah agree, everyone including the entire RFC have told supporters what we are doing, where we are heading and yes how we are rebuilding. It's a shame some people can't get that in their heads, it's going to take years not one NAB game.
Title: Re: I just can't believe this.....
Post by: Penelope on February 14, 2010, 11:53:44 PM
I was wondering how you even knew about that flag, it was only the file name that made me realise what it was.



.....sure al......sure it was. :lol
;)
Title: Re: I just can't believe this.....
Post by: Ox on February 15, 2010, 12:03:25 AM
and when they stuff it up again this time will it be acceptable to vent,oh patient ones.?
Pizs on ur backs and tell you it's raining-no thanks.

I expected to see something no matter how small.

What i saw was nothing other than some kids have a bigger dip than their captain and the clubs token adonis.

No forward line or forward structure.
No ruckman-troy does his best but...
No ruckmen coming thru.
No staunch backline.- puny midgets dont cut it
No declared FB who can stuff with a buddy
Post wont know wether hes a back or forward for 2 more years.
and it goes on

Do u honestly think this club is only 3 years off finals?

Title: Re: I just can't believe this.....
Post by: the claw on February 15, 2010, 12:17:00 AM
Both the Cats and the Hawks were is the same position as us. Don't you all remember people demanding the heads of Thompson and Clarkson?? They survived by the skin of their teeth and look at them now!! Both teams were losing regularly but they were rebuilding and adjusting game plans just like we are now. We are in the recession we had to have but I can see the light at the end of the tunnel even if it is akin to one of those el cheapo solar garden lights. 

Yeah agree, everyone including the entire RFC have told supporters what we are doing, where we are heading and yes how we are rebuilding. It's a shame some people can't get that in their heads, it's going to take years not one NAB game.
i dont think anyone is under any illusion about how long it will take i dont think anyone is really surprised with what happened. it was expected.

what some of us are saying is the senior players are poo and we deserved better from them.

sheesh i reckon even ox was happy with martin astbury nason  etc the kids and the direction are not the problem.

shocking skills  poor leadership  and far to many who have been around for long enough not producing.

we may be rebuilding but we can rebuild as much as we like it wont get us nowhere if we continue to persevere with sub standard so called senior players. all i keep hearing ios they need a chance well im sorry those senior players have had their chances and we all know nothing will change they have to many deficiencies to come good.

what ever happened to the mantra only good kicks will play sheesh the trouble with this is half the list wont play.
Title: Re: I just can't believe this.....
Post by: Ox on February 15, 2010, 12:23:15 AM
Claw,
let me provide an example.
Waeching Martin i felt the following emotions.
Excitement that transcended into embarassment and finally,realisation.
Realisation he deserved better than this club.
Title: Re: I just can't believe this.....
Post by: the claw on February 15, 2010, 12:53:26 AM
Claw,
let me provide an example.
Waeching Martin i felt the following emotions.
Excitement that transcended into embarassment and finally,realisation.
Realisation he deserved better than this club.
agree in a way. and that is the real worry. at some point in time the good ones want some success. unless we actually show there is real improvement  happening, or we are on the right track the cotchins and martins will say stuff this i want to play in a premiership.
continuing to persevere with poorly skilled underachievers  who have had ample opportunity  does nothing to help the cause.
why do we persevere with players like white polo  polak graham hislop how many yrs do we need to keep watching the same thing happen over and over before we say enough. have we learnt nothing. it seems not.

Title: Re: I just can't believe this.....
Post by: torch on February 15, 2010, 02:01:29 AM
Claw,
let me provide an example.
Waeching Martin i felt the following emotions.
Excitement that transcended into embarassment and finally,realisation.
Realisation he deserved better than this club.
agree in a way. and that is the real worry. at some point in time the good ones want some success. unless we actually show there is real improvement  happening, or we are on the right track the cotchins and martins will say stuff this i want to play in a premiership.
continuing to persevere with poorly skilled underachievers  who have had ample opportunity  does nothing to help the cause.
why do we persevere with players like white polo  polak graham hislop how many yrs do we need to keep watching the same thing happen over and over before we say enough. have we learnt nothing. it seems not.



and what about Scully and Trengove at Melbourne? don't they deserve better?

come on guys, it was the first match, a practice match and we played a team that will finish top 4 and who understands our game plan because our

coach designed it for them?

 :)
Title: Re: I just can't believe this.....
Post by: jackstar is back again on February 15, 2010, 06:46:18 AM
I reckon the Cous would be thinking why did I come back to play with this rabble ::)
Title: Re: I just can't believe this.....
Post by: Go Richo 12 on February 15, 2010, 08:22:33 AM
I reckon the Cous would be thinking why did I come back to play with this rabble ::)
The supporters i assume you are talking about?
Title: Re: I just can't believe this.....
Post by: jackstar is back again on February 15, 2010, 08:37:33 AM
I reckon the Cous would be thinking why did I come back to play with this rabble ::)
The supporters i assume you are talking about?

Nah, the players who dont put in !
Imagine Cous rucking to Graham on sat nite  :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol
Title: Re: I just can't believe this.....
Post by: mat073 on February 15, 2010, 06:09:34 PM
Sure I am disappointed with Saturdays result ....who wouldn't be.

1...upset that Hawthorn was able to put 100 pts between us in only 3 quarters.
2....upset that we could only manage a score of 26 pts in 3 quarters of footy.

While I never really entertained the idea of us winning on Saturday night....I thought that a good showing would help wash away the stench of 2009.....This didn't happen.

Its probably going to get worse before it gets better.....Such a bitter pill to swallow for us long suffering supporters.

We are really going to have to hang tough over the next couple of seasons.
Title: Re: I just can't believe this.....
Post by: jackstar is back again on February 15, 2010, 06:49:05 PM
Sure I am disappointed with Saturdays result ....who wouldn't be.

1...upset that Hawthorn was able to put 100 pts between us in only 3 quarters.
2....upset that we could only manage a score of 26 pts in 3 quarters of footy.

While I never really entertained the idea of us winning on Saturday night....I thought that a good showing would help wash away the stench of 2009.....This didn't happen.

Its probably going to get worse before it gets better.....Such a bitter pill to swallow for us long suffering supporters.

We are really going to have to hang tough over the next couple of seasons.

Dont worry about hanging tough, supporters will hang themselves :banghead
Title: Re: I just can't believe this.....
Post by: camboon on February 15, 2010, 07:38:13 PM
LOL, glass half full half empty.


If I didnt know better I would suspect some are just taking the P,

PS:You cant be disapointed if you always expect to fail !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! but you have already lost if you dont even try to improve.
Title: Re: I just can't believe this.....
Post by: Chuck17 on February 15, 2010, 09:00:45 PM
Dont worry about hanging tough, supporters will hang themselves :banghead

Could they do it quietly, no reason why the rest of us should suffer
Title: Re: I just can't believe this.....
Post by: tiger till i die on February 15, 2010, 09:48:47 PM
Martin not good for this club??? com'on people ITS THE TIGERS one of the best damm clubs in AFL and has the potential to be HUGE. we just got to get our players straight with the tiger spirit and play our best. Look, it took the Hawks ages to get were there at and the Saints   
Title: Re: I just can't believe this.....
Post by: smasha on February 15, 2010, 10:00:42 PM
Sure I am disappointed with Saturdays result ....who wouldn't be.

1...upset that Hawthorn was able to put 100 pts between us in only 3 quarters.
2....upset that we could only manage a score of 26 pts in 3 quarters of footy.

While I never really entertained the idea of us winning on Saturday night....I thought that a good showing would help wash away the stench of 2009.....This didn't happen.

Its probably going to get worse before it gets better.....Such a bitter pill to swallow for us long suffering supporters.

We are really going to have to hang tough over the next couple of seasons.

Dont worry about hanging tough, supporters will hang themselves :banghead

Wasn't far when I saw Nason get injured.

Some of the Tigerkids on the boundary looked like they were ready too. :lol

Title: Re: I just can't believe this.....
Post by: tdy on February 16, 2010, 08:02:55 PM
Claw,
let me provide an example.
Waeching Martin i felt the following emotions.
Excitement that transcended into embarassment and finally,realisation.
Realisation he deserved better than this club.
agree in a way. and that is the real worry. at some point in time the good ones want some success. unless we actually show there is real improvement  happening, or we are on the right track the cotchins and martins will say stuff this i want to play in a premiership.
continuing to persevere with poorly skilled underachievers  who have had ample opportunity  does nothing to help the cause.
why do we persevere with players like white polo  polak graham hislop how many yrs do we need to keep watching the same thing happen over and over before we say enough. have we learnt nothing. it seems not.


At least only one of Cotchin and Martin can be gabbed by the Gold Coast.  Personally if I was either of them I'd be very tempted to go.  Their recruiter in Scott Clayton is top notch.  No idea about their coach McKenna but he was a good player and has had a good place to learn in Collingwood.

I'd be a bit worried by the Karmichael Hunt thing, it seems a bit of a stunt to me.  But if they use their draft picks well they should win a premiership in 5 years.

Still some of the things coming out of the GC17 hierarchy seem a bit stupid so I'm not 100% sure their admin is good.
Title: Re: I just can't believe this.....
Post by: Infamy on February 16, 2010, 08:40:03 PM
Martin is contracted for at least 2 years so the Gold Coast can't touch him