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Title: Changes next week for the doggies game?
Post by: one-eyed on March 25, 2010, 11:47:11 PM
What are your changes to the side for next week?


Fire away  :help
Title: Re: Changes next week for the doggies game?
Post by: jackstar is back again on March 25, 2010, 11:49:49 PM
Just watching the replay on foxtel
Couldnt possibly play Thomson , Nahas and Edwards
Title: Re: Changes next week for the doggies game?
Post by: jackstar is back again on March 25, 2010, 11:52:24 PM
Nahas passed to Jackson in the 2nd quarter that went 20 metres and missed Jackson said enough
Title: Re: Changes next week for the doggies game?
Post by: Infamy on March 25, 2010, 11:53:05 PM
Forfeit
Title: Re: Changes next week for the doggies game?
Post by: tiger101 on March 25, 2010, 11:54:33 PM
Hislop. especially giving away that unnecessary 50.
need to work that type of undisciplined actions out of our team.
Title: Re: Changes next week for the doggies game?
Post by: RollsRoyce on March 25, 2010, 11:56:54 PM
IN: Astbury-Post-Rance
OUT: Tambling-Hislop-Edwards
Title: Re: Changes next week for the doggies game?
Post by: big tone on March 25, 2010, 11:57:22 PM
Just watching the replay on foxtel
Couldnt possibly play Thomson , Nahas and Edwards
Hislop, Jackson....
I don't mind watching the young kids playing shyt but watching the same old shyt is boring.
Hardwicks first test this week.
Keep to what you said Damien, if you cannot kick, F off....
Title: Re: Changes next week for the doggies game?
Post by: jackstar is back again on March 26, 2010, 12:10:34 AM
Just watched Thomson have s et shot from 35 metres out, and not make the distance,
Title: Re: Changes next week for the doggies game?
Post by: Infamy on March 26, 2010, 12:16:29 AM
Just watched Thomson have s et shot from 35 metres out, and not make the distance,
Was right behind the goals on that one, I really... REALLY hope he was trying to put more height on it for accuracy. I could kick it further than that and I can't kick to save myself.
Title: Re: Changes next week for the doggies game?
Post by: TigerTimeII on March 26, 2010, 12:34:33 AM
if u cant kick u cant play

out simmonds thomson hislop moore nahas connors
in browne taylor post king astbury and another kid, donmt care who it is
Title: Re: Changes next week for the doggies game?
Post by: tiger101 on March 26, 2010, 12:36:13 AM
Bring in jeromey webberley give him his first game.
Title: Re: Changes next week for the doggies game?
Post by: mat073 on March 26, 2010, 02:46:55 AM
Just keep playing the kids.
Title: Re: Changes next week for the doggies game?
Post by: WA Tiger on March 26, 2010, 11:14:10 AM
Out: EDWARDS, EDWARDS, EDWARDS, EDWARDS.

In: Who care surley they can't do any worse than Edwards!!!!!
Title: Re: Changes next week for the doggies game?
Post by: WA Tiger on March 26, 2010, 11:15:19 AM
Forfeit

My God I agree, we are going to be beaten by the biggest margin in history!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Changes next week for the doggies game?
Post by: TigerLand on March 26, 2010, 11:46:51 AM
B: Newman Thursfield Connors
HB: Farmer Moore McGuane
C: Cotchin Deledio Nason
HF: Cousins Astbury Roberts
F: Nahas Reiwoldt Morton

R: Browne Jackson Martin

Int: Vickory Collins Thomson Tambling

Out Edwards, Simmonds, Hislop
In Astbury, Browne, Collins
Title: Re: Changes next week for the doggies game?
Post by: taztiger4 on March 26, 2010, 11:49:34 AM
B: Newman Thursfield Connors
HB: Farmer Moore McGuane
C: Cotchin Deledio Nason
HF: Cousins Astbury Roberts
F: Nahas Reiwoldt Morton

R: Browne Jackson Martin

Int: Vickory Collins Thomson Tambling

Out Edwards, Simmonds, Hislop
In Astbury, Browne, Collins

Post ? is he injured od a bit underdone ?
Title: Re: Changes next week for the doggies game?
Post by: jackstar is back again on March 26, 2010, 11:55:10 AM
Couldnt possibly play Nahas again, they are kidding themselves.Any player who doesnt attack the ball when in dispute but look at his opponents arent going win you many games, it certainily wont win you a final.
As for Richard Tambling, trade at years end.
Is never going to make an impact on a game
Cant have players trying to grab a ""hot ball"' with one hand.
At least with a Hislop, not much ability but will do everything to win the ball in dispute. Credit where its due for Tom :thumbsup
And Tom is only 21.
Title: Re: Changes next week for the doggies game?
Post by: tony_montana on March 26, 2010, 02:29:32 PM
Forfeit

lol
wow its going to be ugly next week
Title: Re: Changes next week for the doggies game?
Post by: rufio_1991 on March 26, 2010, 02:36:43 PM
OUT: Newman, Nahas, Tambling, Vickery.
IN: Tuck, Post, Browne, Polo.
Title: Re: Changes next week for the doggies game?
Post by: 1965 on March 26, 2010, 02:44:24 PM

I think I might wait and see how the boys do for Coburg on the weekend.

 :thumbsup
Title: Re: Changes next week for the doggies game?
Post by: tigersalive on March 26, 2010, 03:25:43 PM
if u cant kick u cant play

out simmonds thomson hislop moore nahas connors
in browne taylor post king astbury and another kid, donmt care who it is

Does not compute.
Title: Re: Changes next week for the doggies game?
Post by: WA Tiger on March 26, 2010, 06:27:12 PM
I hope the hell Johnson plays for the Dogs on Sunday otherwise we will play them on his 350th and that is the scariest thing we will ever encounter.. :scream
Title: Re: Changes next week for the doggies game?
Post by: Chuck17 on March 26, 2010, 07:07:57 PM
if u cant kick u cant play

out simmonds thomson hislop moore nahas connors
in browne taylor post king astbury and another kid, donmt care who it is

Does not compute.

I thought we must have drafted another King into the side.
Title: Re: Changes next week for the doggies game?
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on March 27, 2010, 01:30:44 AM
Mark my words Simmo will be retained and Minson and Hudson will go bezerk against us.

What I would like to see is a few ins of the ilk of

Astbury Collins Webberley Grimes Browne Taylor Rance

We should strive in this early part of the season to give a debut to a first gamer every week.

Ilk of players that should be dropped

Simmonds McGuane Nahas Tambling Thompson

Players who are deficient and have failed repetitively at this level.


Title: Re: Changes next week for the doggies game?
Post by: WA Tiger on March 27, 2010, 01:38:28 AM
Mark my words Simmo will be retained and Minson and Hudson will go bezerk against us.

What I would like to see is a few ins of the ilk of

Astbury Collins Webberley Grimes Browne Taylor Rance

We should strive in this early part of the season to give a debut to a first gamer every week.

Ilk of players that should be dropped

Simmonds McGuane Nahas Tambling Thompson

Players who are deficient and have failed repetitively at this level.




And Edwards BTW!! We are going to be ........... :help Simmonds, McGuane and Tambling have more experience than most, I agree with playing the kids but at this rate we may as well play the Coburg side. How do we build if we make so many changes, Hardwick already said he would do that.
Title: Re: Changes next week for the doggies game?
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on March 27, 2010, 01:47:18 AM
Mark my words Simmo will be retained and Minson and Hudson will go bezerk against us.

What I would like to see is a few ins of the ilk of

Astbury Collins Webberley Grimes Browne Taylor Rance

We should strive in this early part of the season to give a debut to a first gamer every week.

Ilk of players that should be dropped

Simmonds McGuane Nahas Tambling Thompson

Players who are deficient and have failed repetitively at this level.




And Edwards BTW!! We are going to be ........... :help Simmonds, McGuane and Tambling have more experience than most, I agree with playing the kids but at this rate we may as well play the Coburg side. How do we build if we make so many changes, Hardwick already said he would do that.

To expect all of those changes in one week is nuts WAT, as I said I would hope that some of the names I mentioned get to play. Yep we need some experience out there too agree wholeheartedly there but that experience that remains must not hinder the opportunity of a newbie. Eventually all these kids will be thrown to the wolves this year and one only hopes it helps to stuff their learning experience. At least if we play the kids one feels we may be going somewhere with these kids future and the future of the RFC one way or another.
Title: Re: Changes next week for the doggies game?
Post by: WA Tiger on March 27, 2010, 02:01:46 AM
Mark my words Simmo will be retained and Minson and Hudson will go bezerk against us.

What I would like to see is a few ins of the ilk of

Astbury Collins Webberley Grimes Browne Taylor Rance

We should strive in this early part of the season to give a debut to a first gamer every week.

Ilk of players that should be dropped

Simmonds McGuane Nahas Tambling Thompson

Players who are deficient and have failed repetitively at this level.




And Edwards BTW!! We are going to be ........... :help Simmonds, McGuane and Tambling have more experience than most, I agree with playing the kids but at this rate we may as well play the Coburg side. How do we build if we make so many changes, Hardwick already said he would do that.

To expect all of those changes in one week is nuts WAT, as I said I would hope that some of the names I mentioned get to play. Yep we need some experience out there too agree wholeheartedly there but that experience that remains must not hinder the opportunity of a newbie. Eventually all these kids will be thrown to the wolves this year and one only hopes it helps to stuff their learning experience. At least if we play the kids one feels we may be going somewhere with these kids future and the future of the RFC one way or another.

Cool man, agree.. :thumbsup. stuff the wolves, I hate them mofo's.
Title: Re: Changes next week for the doggies game?
Post by: yellowandback on March 27, 2010, 07:07:47 AM
I'd keep the changes to a couple.......3 at the most. Because you are really just shifting chairs and it is too disruptive to overall team when making massive changes.
2-3 changes demonstrates turnover for poor performance 5 or more smacks of straw clutching - not a smart ploy with 21 games remaining.
It would be fair too say that 40 odd players on our list will get a game this year, it's just a matter of when.

Troy Simmonds is as ineffective a player as Jordan and infinitely worse than Shane Tuck.
It sent the wrong message retaining him, it sent a disengaging message putting him in the leadership team and it would be a disgrace to see him ever disrespect our jumper by playing for Richmond ever again.
You could not play worse as a ruckman so throw either browne or Graham into the team.
I think Tambo should be sent a message by dropping him. You have to wonder how many games he'd have if he was drafted at 60 instead of 4. Great bloke and I reckon a good player in a top 4 team.
Leave the rest and flog 'em on the track this week. Get hafey to take training. He'd embarass a few of them  and find many of them out.
Pack of soft coks.
Title: Re: Changes next week for the doggies game?
Post by: jackstar is back again on March 27, 2010, 07:40:12 AM
You couldnt possibly play Graham or Browne next week.
Forget about Rance as well.
Would be playing Tuck next week and possibly McMahon at the dome.
Did I just say McMahon :banghead.
Thats how bad we are
Title: Re: Changes next week for the doggies game?
Post by: Infamy on March 27, 2010, 08:24:50 AM
You couldnt possibly play Graham or Browne next week.
Forget about Rance as well.
Would be playing Tuck next week and possibly McMahon at the dome.
Did I just say McMahon :banghead.
Thats how bad we are
What happened to Richmond "surprising" this year?
Title: Re: Changes next week for the doggies game?
Post by: jackstar is back again on March 27, 2010, 08:38:40 AM
You couldnt possibly play Graham or Browne next week.
Forget about Rance as well.
Would be playing Tuck next week and possibly McMahon at the dome.
Did I just say McMahon :banghead.
Thats how bad we are
What happened to Richmond "surprising" this year?

My analysis is this.
The comp is made up of 3 teams that are well ahead of the rest. St.Kilda Geelong and Western Bulldogs.
about 5 goals behind them you have the following. Collingwood, Brisbane, Essendon.West Coast, Hawthorn Adelaide and Port.
Another  5 goals behind them you have Carlton ,North ,Sydney.
And behind them again you have Richmond, Melbourne and Fremantle.

We will surprise, we wont win the spoon, although we have fallen way behind the balance of the competition..
The gap between the bottom 3 teams and the next level is huge, as we seen on Thursday Night, we got flogged by Carlton who aint going make the finals


Title: Re: Changes next week for the doggies game?
Post by: MADTIGER2010 on March 27, 2010, 09:00:20 AM
In: Post, Graham, Astbury
Out: Moore, Simmonds, Hislop

Bring in players we badly need and remove players we don't really need. No point dropping players we need just because they had a bad game eg. Tambling, Edwards, Nahas
Title: Re: Changes next week for the doggies game?
Post by: jackstar is back again on March 27, 2010, 09:51:56 AM
Graham, you might as well stand a "witches hat"" in the middle of the ground. ::) :banghead
Do you people actual watch a game of football, he is a total fool
Title: Re: Changes next week for the doggies game?
Post by: TigerTimeII on March 27, 2010, 10:28:56 AM
if u cant kick u cant play

out simmonds thomson hislop moore nahas connors
in browne taylor post king astbury and another kid, donmt care who it is

Does not compute.

king can kick for goal, far better option than nahas and hislop as our small fwd. kings kicking is better than richos, how many games did richo play?????
Title: Re: Changes next week for the doggies game?
Post by: smasha on March 27, 2010, 12:38:44 PM
In-slab
OUT-6 pack 
Title: Re: Changes next week for the doggies game?
Post by: bojangles17 on March 27, 2010, 12:48:22 PM
Couldnt possibly play Nahas again, they are kidding themselves.Any player who doesnt attack the ball when in dispute but look at his opponents arent going win you many games, it certainily wont win you a final.
As for Richard Tambling, trade at years end.
Is never going to make an impact on a game
Cant have players trying to grab a ""hot ball"' with one hand.
At least with a Hislop, not much ability but will do everything to win the ball in dispute. Credit where its due for Tom :thumbsup
And Tom is only 21.


on rare occasion I agree jack, nahas has been found out at the level, not up to it...we have heaps of options for his spot...id even prefer Matt white, collins you name it...Tambling is now stuffed, I would be holding off on contract talks and angle a trade to GC...yep kleave Hislop in the side, more midfield grunt instead of lead up forward that was stupid
Title: Re: Changes next week for the doggies game?
Post by: Chuck17 on March 27, 2010, 01:53:52 PM
I've heard it all now with King being compared against Richo
Title: Re: Changes next week for the doggies game?
Post by: Ramps on March 27, 2010, 02:24:19 PM
until we get the structure right up forward its going to be tough. that means we have to wait for griffiths and astbury to join riewoldt and morton then add taylor and roberts if we have that forward line in r22 and its working then there is some hope for the future.
Title: Re: Changes next week for the doggies game?
Post by: Judge Roughneck on March 27, 2010, 04:53:43 PM
Out:

Hislop
Thomson
Edwards
Moore
Simmonds
Title: Re: Changes next week for the doggies game?
Post by: WA Tiger on March 27, 2010, 06:17:06 PM
I really don't think we will see a lot of changes, Hardwick has already said that he won't be dropping players every week just because of 1 bad game....... unfortunately.
Title: Re: Changes next week for the doggies game?
Post by: cub on March 27, 2010, 06:23:50 PM
What's the point chopping and changing now. Give the same team a tatse of a top team. Let them see what really is required.
Sure make changes though the season but we are inexperienced as a team and need a bit of stability around the place, give the kids 3-4 weeks minimum and if they are still struggling then rotate them through.
Just don't send them back to Coburg seconds  :banghead Yes I understand Astbury was coming back from injury since it has been posted but we have done it and worn it too much in hte past.
If there is any way we can afford a Richmond 2's it has to be done otherwise there may not even be a Richmond 1's in 10 years time  :banghead
Title: Re: Changes next week for the doggies game?
Post by: bojangles17 on March 27, 2010, 06:36:38 PM
I really don't think we will see a lot of changes, Hardwick has already said that he won't be dropping players every week just because of 1 bad game....... unfortunately.

im pretty sure he'd realise there were structuaral probelms we faced as in no bugger could take a mark aside from Jack...that needs to be addressed, whether Nahas and a couple mof others get a reprieve is another matter
Title: Re: Changes next week for the doggies game?
Post by: Mr Magic on March 28, 2010, 08:12:20 AM
Out:
Hislop
Simmonds


Title: Re: Changes next week for the doggies game?
Post by: tigersalive on March 28, 2010, 08:43:32 AM
I've only watched the replay up to midway through the third quarter but I still can't see why we are dropping Hislop even on second viewing.

His tackles stuck and I don't think I saw more than one skill error from him.

I don't rate him but Hislop cannot be dropped based on Thursday's performance.
Title: Re: Changes next week for the doggies game?
Post by: Infamy on March 28, 2010, 11:12:42 AM
I've only watched the replay up to midway through the third quarter but I still can't see why we are dropping Hislop even on second viewing.

His tackles stuck and I don't think I saw more than one skill error from him.

I don't rate him but Hislop cannot be dropped based on Thursday's performance.
Agreed, some people just love to hate him
At a time when we are screaming out for some really agressive players who will stick tackles and protect their team mates. Hislop will do that. Happy to leave him in for the rest of the year so we can make a proper judgement call on him moving forward.
Title: Re: Changes next week for the doggies game?
Post by: eliminator on March 28, 2010, 11:31:32 AM
Hislop has to go. He does not get enough of the ball. Bring in King. I would bring in Tuck. The Bulldogs are not only a very skilful team they are hard at it. Bring in Rance. Our defence needs support.
Title: Re: Changes next week for the doggies game?
Post by: TigerTimeII on March 28, 2010, 12:38:06 PM
rance no way

post yes
Title: Re: Changes next week for the doggies game?
Post by: WilliamPowell on March 28, 2010, 09:01:30 PM
Ins: Polo, White, Post

Outs: Vickery, Nahas, Moore

=======================

Very Lucky to survive  ;D = Edwards & Connors

Unlucky = Tuck, Browne

 ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Changes next week for the doggies game?
Post by: jackstar is back again on March 28, 2010, 09:42:26 PM
Ins: Polo, White, Post

Outs: Vickery, Nahas, Moore

=======================

Very Lucky to survive  ;D = Edwards & Connors

Unlucky = Tuck, Browne

 ;D ;D ;D

Agree with Nahas.
Dont know about White being an IN, would look at Tuck if he is going okay.
agree with Post, if they dont play him, has he gone backwards from last year??
Seem to have a bit of X factor last year.
Wouldnt play Edwards. would play McMahon .
I will cop it now, LOL McMahon. but Edwards cant play at all
Title: Re: Changes next week for the doggies game?
Post by: Smokey on March 28, 2010, 09:48:47 PM
In:  Post, Polo and Browne

Out: Edwards (not up to it), Vickery (go and learn to beat up on the opposition) and Roberts (go and get fit).
Title: Re: Changes next week for the doggies game?
Post by: torch on March 28, 2010, 10:43:50 PM
In: Jayden Post

Out: Shane Edwards

---------------------------------------------------------------------------------

B: Farmer, Moore, Thursfield

HB: Connors, McGuane, Deledio

C: Cousins, Martin, Newman

HF: Tambling, Riewoldt, Roberts

F: Nahas, Post, Morton

Ruck: Vickery

Ruck Rover: Jackson

Rover: Thomson

Interchange: Simmonds, Nason, Hislop, Cotchin

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Deledio - I have given up hoping Deledio becomes our match-winner! So i think play him off the half-back stuff against Western. Play Deledio maybe loose.

Newman - I think it is time to play our Captain in the midfield. Newman has the skills to hit long targets.

Martin - Keep playing Martin in the midfield with a clear instruction to kick the football long!

Vickery - 65% in the Ruck resting at Full Foward.

Simmonds - 35% in the Ruck resting at Full Foward.

Cotchin - in Midfield, the Carlton match showed me that on the Wing, Cotchin's lack of pace is a negative. But when Cotchin is arounf the football, he is a star really.

Post - In the forward line, bomb it in long and high for Post, 6 out of 10 times, Post will mark it!

(if Post is injuried, play Astbury or Griffiths!)

 :)
Title: Re: Changes next week for the doggies game?
Post by: LondonTiger on March 28, 2010, 11:26:04 PM
Out : Edwards, Thomson, Nahas, Connors, Vickery, McGuane
In : Post, Browne, Polo, Tuck, Webberley, Polak

Doubt we will get as many changes as this (wishful thinking)

One extra tall in the forwards (Polak) out Nahas, Post for McGuane (assuming Post is not injured after falling on his back), Polo definitely in for Edwards, and to blood a real backman, bring in Webberley who had a great game apparently in the Magoos, and I would drop Connors for being lazy.  Tuck in for Thomson, to give a bit of protection in the midfield. Vickery back to the magoos to work upon his fitness, and Browne in to see how he can go. 

If Tuck and Polak don't come in this week, we won't see them ever again in a Richmond jumper unless we have plenty of injuries.

B : Polo, Moore, Farmer
HB : Tambling, Post, Newman
C : Martin, Deledio, Cotchin
HF : Nason, Riewoldt, Hislop
F : Morton, Polak, Roberts
Foll : Simmonds, Jackson, Cousins

Int : Browne, Tuck, Webberley, Thursfield

Title: Re: Changes next week for the doggies game?
Post by: WA Tiger on March 29, 2010, 12:12:46 AM
Ins: Polo, White, Post

Outs: Vickery, Nahas, Moore

=======================

Very Lucky to survive  ;D = Edwards & Connors

Unlucky = Tuck, Browne

 ;D ;D ;D

What has Polo done to deserve a game WP?? Did he even play for Coburg and if he did he wasn't mentioned, surley Webberly deserves a go before him.
Title: Re: Changes next week for the doggies game?
Post by: WA Tiger on March 29, 2010, 12:50:08 AM
Ins: Polo, White, Post

Outs: Vickery, Nahas, Moore

=======================

Very Lucky to survive  ;D = Edwards & Connors

Unlucky = Tuck, Browne

 ;D ;D ;D

What has Polo done to deserve a game WP?? Did he even play for Coburg and if he did he wasn't mentioned, surley Webberly deserves a go before him.

Sorry WP, I just read the report on Y&B, sounds like Polo went ok.

Out: Edwards
In: Tuck
Title: Re: Changes next week for the doggies game?
Post by: Mr Magic on March 29, 2010, 01:28:33 AM
I don't rate him but Hislop cannot be dropped based on Thursday's performance.

Of course he can. Did you watch his 2nd half??
Title: Re: Changes next week for the doggies game?
Post by: Ox on March 29, 2010, 02:10:36 AM
given the current situation and lack of real players it is more a choice of who played exceptionally well for Coburg,rather than who we will drop,considering DH is scanning the list for senior duds as well as blooding the children.

The whole year will see the rotating door theory,as we just don;t have the cattle.
Title: Re: Changes next week for the doggies game?
Post by: one-eyed on March 31, 2010, 11:25:40 AM
RICHMOND

Despite the Tigers' poor performance against traditional rival Carlton in round one, it's unlikely that too many changes will be made. Of the debutants, forward Relton Roberts seems the most likely to cough up his spot, and that could be to fellow promoted rookie Graham Polak if coach Damien Hardwick decides to add a bit of height. The Tigers' lack of hardness could mean a recall for the experienced Shane Tuck, even with his inconsistent disposal.

http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/91362/default.aspx
Title: Re: Changes next week for the doggies game?
Post by: one-eyed on March 31, 2010, 02:59:18 PM
THE WESTERN Bulldogs are not expecting Richmond to make drastic changes to its side ahead of Sunday's clash, despite the Tigers' heavy round-one loss to Carlton.

Coach Rodney Eade said he believed Damien Hardwick would continue to show faith in his inexperienced group this week.

"They are a young squad and they're trying to implement a definitive game plan," Eade said on Wednesday.

"We've seen a bit of them over the pre-season and last week as well.

http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/91385/default.aspx