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Title: Billy Slater to AFL?
Post by: one-eyed on April 24, 2010, 11:01:53 PM
John Ralph on Ch 10's Fifth Quarter said there's talk of Billy Slater switching codes next year. For some reason mentioned Richmond and whether we'd go for it and fit him in the salary cap.

Title: Re: Billy Slater to AFL?
Post by: tiger101 on April 24, 2010, 11:17:49 PM
no we need players that already have good skills and potential to be great players.
not risky publicity stunts
Title: Re: Billy Slater to AFL?
Post by: tiger till i die on April 24, 2010, 11:27:45 PM
One eye is there a possibly link to see what he said ? i think slater would be interesting for richmond we no he can spekie thats for sure  :thumbsup
Title: Re: Billy Slater to AFL?
Post by: Infamy on April 25, 2010, 12:29:52 AM
Slater is a gun, I'd love to have him, but he's probably too old for us
Title: Re: Billy Slater to AFL?
Post by: TigerLand on April 25, 2010, 03:05:58 AM
100% has to be looked at.

A) Give a further 1% reason to rock up to the footy
B) No loss anything with potential to gain.

I'd rather see a Slater play who runs the lines can put an opposition player in hospital lightning quick and is impossible to baulk instead of every single player we have over the age of 24.
Title: Re: Billy Slater to AFL?
Post by: one-eyed on April 25, 2010, 05:15:41 AM
One eye is there a possibly link to see what he said ? i think slater would be interesting for richmond we no he can spekie thats for sure  :thumbsup
TTID, sorry I can't find a link on the TEN website. Maybe we were mentioned because (a) we're Richmond who sells papers and (b) we'll have one of the first rookie picks if we finish last.
Title: Re: Billy Slater to AFL?
Post by: jackstar is back again on April 25, 2010, 06:32:23 AM
Slater is a gun, I'd love to have him, but he's probably too old for us

Agree
Title: Re: Billy Slater to AFL?
Post by: Penelope on April 25, 2010, 08:47:47 AM
They must have read my post in another thread on this.  ;D

In all seriousness, Slater is an elite, highly skilled sportsman. Your chances of getting someone like him to adapt from Rugby leauge would better than that of Gaelic Footballers.

He knows how to "break the lines" and could teach most AFL players a thing or two about tackling.

If he could be taught how to kick and handball properly you would have a more than handy player, with plenty of attributes such as leadership, big game experience/performance.

Any club would remiss in not at least considering the idea.

The biggest knocks would be his age -27 this year, but would still have 4-5 years left in him possibly- and whether he could build up a tank big enough to play Aussie Rules
Title: Re: Billy Slater to AFL?
Post by: Owl on April 25, 2010, 09:22:23 AM
Make great clearance players some of em.  Hard to tackle, strong as ox's and great burst speed, just a bit low on endurance in comparison to Afl players.
Title: Re: Billy Slater to AFL?
Post by: Infamy on April 25, 2010, 01:41:05 PM
The biggest knocks would be his age -27 this year, but would still have 4-5 years left in him possibly- and whether he could build up a tank big enough to play Aussie Rules
Already has one. He'd be in the Top 5% for stamina (and probably speed too) in the AFL.
Title: Re: Billy Slater to AFL?
Post by: tiger till i die on April 25, 2010, 01:47:48 PM
but do u honestly think Richmond would ASK Billy if he wants to play for us he would ?
Title: Re: Billy Slater to AFL?
Post by: Ramps on April 25, 2010, 01:57:37 PM
YOU GUYS ARE CHASING THE WRONG ATHLETE FROM RUGBY LEAGUE!

The bloke an AFL club should chase is

ISRAEL FOLAU
DOB: April 3 1989 - making him just 22
195cm tall or 6'5
and runs like the Wind.

Hes the bloke an AFL club should try and get!
Title: Re: Billy Slater to AFL?
Post by: tiger till i die on April 25, 2010, 01:59:17 PM
YOU GUYS ARE CHASING THE WRONG ATHLETE FROM RUGBY LEAGUE!

The bloke an AFL club should chase is

ISRAEL FOLAU
DOB: April 3 1989 - making him just 22
195cm tall or 6'5
and runs like the Wind.

Hes the bloke an AFL club should try and get!

dont think thats going to happen mate
Title: Re: Billy Slater to AFL?
Post by: Ramps on April 25, 2010, 02:04:07 PM
me neither but hes the best athlete in that game and at 22 yo hes the right age. Massive coup for AFL is a club can get him.
Title: Re: Billy Slater to AFL?
Post by: Infamy on April 25, 2010, 02:24:07 PM
YOU GUYS ARE CHASING THE WRONG ATHLETE FROM RUGBY LEAGUE!

The bloke an AFL club should chase is

ISRAEL FOLAU
DOB: April 3 1989 - making him just 22
195cm tall or 6'5
and runs like the Wind.

Hes the bloke an AFL club should try and get!
Moved to QLD to go back closer to his family as he is a very strict Mormon, also needs to do some sort of pilgrimage I think at some stage.
Greg Inglis is the one, he's already in Melbourne, kicks well, marks well, as fast a better all around athlete than Folau
Title: Re: Billy Slater to AFL?
Post by: crannyvegas on April 25, 2010, 02:36:27 PM
Greg Inglis in a Richmond jumper, would be amazing. But these types of gambles are for clubs pushing the top 8. His talent would be lost on side floundering at the bottom for the next few years.
Title: Re: Billy Slater to AFL?
Post by: Jacosh on April 25, 2010, 02:38:21 PM
YOU GUYS ARE CHASING THE WRONG ATHLETE FROM RUGBY LEAGUE!

The bloke an AFL club should chase is

ISRAEL FOLAU
DOB: April 3 1989 - making him just 22
195cm tall or 6'5
and runs like the Wind.

Hes the bloke an AFL club should try and get!
Moved to QLD to go back closer to his family as he is a very strict Mormon, also needs to do some sort of pilgrimage I think at some stage.
Greg Inglis is the one, he's already in Melbourne, kicks well, marks well, as fast a better all around athlete than Folau

Inglis would make a great KP player if trained to look out for contest from any angle. Slater is a ready made mid fielder, his clearence work would be outstanding he can already kick pretty well would just need to practice handballs without thinking instead of throwing the ball.
Title: Re: Billy Slater to AFL?
Post by: Infamy on April 25, 2010, 02:40:20 PM
Greg Inglis in a Richmond jumper, would be amazing. But these types of gambles are for clubs pushing the top 8. His talent would be lost on side floundering at the bottom for the next few years.
Disagree, Inglis is only 23 and has 8-10 years of elite level sport left in him, we are developing and he could develop with us
We'd have plenty of room in the cap to pay him far more than what he's getting at NRL and the AFL would love us for getting him and may even come to the party to assist making the move happen.
Title: Re: Billy Slater to AFL?
Post by: Obelix on April 25, 2010, 02:54:10 PM
I think Inglis would be miserable in the AFL. He's a very physical man and with the way they've been handing out suspensions for the most feeble hip and shoulders... nah, I can't see it.

go to union young man... do it ;)
Title: Re: Billy Slater to AFL?
Post by: Jacosh on April 25, 2010, 02:58:18 PM
I think Inglis would be miserable in the AFL. He's a very physical man and with the way they've been handing out suspensions for the most feeble hip and shoulders... nah, I can't see it.

go to union young man... do it ;)


Like i said on another post, if any of them leave theres a much bigger chance of them going to the Melbourne Rebels than to any AFL club.
Title: Re: Billy Slater to AFL?
Post by: tiger till i die on April 25, 2010, 05:21:21 PM
but they have never played a game of footy in there life  :-\
Title: Re: Billy Slater to AFL?
Post by: Mr Magic on April 25, 2010, 08:17:08 PM
but they have never played a game of footy in there life  :-\

Logical post.
Title: Re: Billy Slater to AFL?
Post by: mightytiges on April 25, 2010, 08:47:25 PM
Greg Inglis in a Richmond jumper, would be amazing. But these types of gambles are for clubs pushing the top 8. His talent would be lost on side floundering at the bottom for the next few years.
Disagree, Inglis is only 23 and has 8-10 years of elite level sport left in him, we are developing and he could develop with us
We'd have plenty of room in the cap to pay him far more than what he's getting at NRL and the AFL would love us for getting him and may even come to the party to assist making the move happen.
I don't see it happening but it wouldn't be a cap issue if by some miracle Slater or Inglis crossed over. Anyone who hasn't been in the AFL/footy system for 3 years can be paid outside the cap. As you say Infamy the AFL would chip in as well just for the publicity. That's why Karmichael Hunt is being paid $3.3m yet GC17 can still chase Ablett witth megabucks.
Title: Re: Billy Slater to AFL?
Post by: Infamy on April 26, 2010, 10:34:48 PM
Greg Inglis in a Richmond jumper, would be amazing. But these types of gambles are for clubs pushing the top 8. His talent would be lost on side floundering at the bottom for the next few years.
Disagree, Inglis is only 23 and has 8-10 years of elite level sport left in him, we are developing and he could develop with us
We'd have plenty of room in the cap to pay him far more than what he's getting at NRL and the AFL would love us for getting him and may even come to the party to assist making the move happen.
I don't see it happening but it wouldn't be a cap issue if by some miracle Slater or Inglis crossed over. Anyone who hasn't been in the AFL/footy system for 3 years can be paid outside the cap. As you say Infamy the AFL would chip in as well just for the publicity. That's why Karmichael Hunt is being paid $3.3m yet GC17 can still chase Ablett witth megabucks.
The AFL closed that loophole of high salaries for rookies being paid outside the salary cap. Now the first $60k is outside the cap, but anything higher than that must be included in TPP.
Title: Re: Billy Slater to AFL?
Post by: one-eyed on April 28, 2010, 12:09:15 PM
New Melbourne rugby side is throwing million dollar contracts at NRL players Folau and Slater.

The estimated value of Storm superstars Slater ($500,000), Greg Inglis ($500,000), Cameron Smith ($475,000), Cooper Cronk ($350,000) and Ryan Hoffman ($325,000) eats up a phenomenal $2.1 million of Melbourne's $4.1m salary cap allowed for their top 25 players.

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/nrl/melbourne-rebels-in-1m-bid-for-billy-slater/story-e6frexnr-1225858127543
Title: Re: Billy Slater to AFL?
Post by: Smokey on April 28, 2010, 12:33:42 PM

The estimated value of Storm superstars Slater ($500,000), Greg Inglis ($500,000), Cameron Smith ($475,000), Cooper Cronk ($350,000) and Ryan Hoffman ($325,000) eats up a phenomenal $2.1 million of Melbourne's $4.1m salary cap allowed for their top 25 players.

I reckon they'll have plenty of room in the cap next year!   :o
Title: Re: Billy Slater to AFL?
Post by: HD on April 29, 2010, 03:26:03 PM
Slater is apparently switching codes, but to Union with the new Melbourne franchise the Rebels.

Inglis would be no good, he's never played AFL and brings some recent off-field stuff that we don't need to deal with (look at Cousins nowadays with all the crap constantly going round that the club has to deal with - it's distracting for the players)

Folau would be great athletically, and recently it was reported in QLD that he was looking to return to Melbourne next year (before the salary cap stuff came out with the Storm), but for a team that has struggled in recent years to get development right, do we really want to tackle a 'code switch' player?
Title: Re: Billy Slater to AFL?
Post by: Penelope on April 29, 2010, 03:57:32 PM
Folau is expected to join the the new Melbourne Rebels Rugby Union Franchise, with an an announcement possibly today.
http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/league-news/storms-loss-may-be-broncos-gain-20100428-tsj2.html