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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: mat073 on July 07, 2010, 11:44:14 AM
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I would be really interested to read the opinions of my fellow Oerites with regards to our more "maligned" players .The improvement in some players who were considered "D" grade has been quite amazing.
Players who could be described as "cannon fodder" during our year of transformation now represent difficult and unpopular decisions to be made at the end of the year.
Matt White Last year he was running around like a headless chook....In 2010 played a fantastic game against Port and has not looked back since.
Jake King I had Jake in the "never ever again"-Just like Jordie.However his good form for Coburg earlier in the season demanded selection.Now he is being our "little" tough nut without being the liability he once was.
Kelvin Moore back to his 2008 form and in his last two games against Sydney & WCE looks like an AA defender.
Shane Edwards pumped 61 games into this little fellow....now we are starting to see the results.I still get a smile on my face when I think about his Brisbane goal.
Then theres Shane Tuck who was described an a "resilient bugger" by the coach.The transformation in Angus Graham has been remarkable
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Shows what good coaching can do.
While we're a while off them yet, we're doing what a Collingwood and St. Kilda can do with lesser skilled players. Turn D graders into C+ or even B- players.
Realistically, St. Kilda have a lot of duds for a top side, but they all do their job and try to leave the kicking to Goddard, Dal Santo and Montagna.
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BTW alot of people were caning Jack too at the start of the season!
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BTW alot of people were caning Jack too at the start of the season!
And you were going after Hardwick because your mate Jade missed out :lol ;D
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I would be really interested to read the opinions of my fellow Oerites with regards to our more "maligned" players .The improvement in some players who were considered "D" grade has been quite amazing.
Players who could be described as "cannon fodder" during our year of transformation now represent difficult and unpopular decisions to be made at the end of the year.
Matt White Last year he was running around like a headless chook....In 2010 played a fantastic game against Port and has not looked back since.
Jake King I had Jake in the "never ever again"-Just like Jordie.However his good form for Coburg earlier in the season demanded selection.Now he is being our "little" tough nut without being the liability he once was.
Kelvin Moore back to his 2008 form and in his last two games against Sydney & WCE looks like an AA defender.
Shane Edwards pumped 61 games into this little fellow....now we are starting to see the results.I still get a smile on my face when I think about his Brisbane goal.
Then theres Shane Tuck who was described an a "resilient bugger" by the coach.The transformation in Angus Graham has been remarkable
White- good as a squad player
King- wouldn't keep
Moore- tradeable at the right price
Edwards- very good improvement, safe for 2011 imho
Tuck- wouldnt keep but if the coach reckons we need a bigger body in the middle he'll stay
Graham- very good improvement, safe for 2011 imho
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BTW alot of people were caning Jack too at the start of the season!
And you were going after Hardwick because your mate Jade missed out :lol ;D
Are my posts being stalked!? :lol
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Im still not sold with King his kicking skills still aren't efficient enough for AFL level.
The rest have all had superb seasons.
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BTW alot of people were caning Jack too at the start of the season!
And you were going after Hardwick because your mate Jade missed out :lol ;D
Are my posts being stalked!? :lol
Just keeping the "Lets get Jade the Job forces" in check ;D and using it to hose down my "lets trade Riewoldt" stuff :D
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BTW alot of people were caning Jack too at the start of the season!
And you were going after Hardwick because your mate Jade missed out :lol ;D
Are my posts being stalked!? :lol
Just keeping the "Lets get Jade the Job forces" in check ;D and using it to hose down my "lets trade Riewoldt" stuff :D
Ah Ramps, now that is true efficiency, killing two birds with the one stone!
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Just keeping the "Lets get Jade the Job forces" in check ;D and using it to hose down my "lets trade Riewoldt" stuff :D
:lol
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BTW alot of people were caning Jack too at the start of the season!
FFS can you give it a rest with the i told u so's. thats all i hear from you. "I told you he would be a gun" i told you he could coach"
yeah we know already your just a genious at picking talent across all things AFL now for the love of god shut the stuff up
Edit: swearing
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BTW alot of people were caning Jack too at the start of the season!
FFS can you give it a rest with the i told u so's. thats all i hear from you. "I told you he would be a gun" i told you he could coach"
yeah we know already your just a genious at picking talent across all things AFL now for the love of god shut the stuff up
:rollin l feel his another Ottens & will turn his back on the club, openly heard to say too have a ambition to play along side my cousin.
With good form & top offers from another club he might take the bait
l told you so ;D
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BTW alot of people were caning Jack too at the start of the season!
FFS can you give it a rest with the i told u so's. thats all i hear from you. "I told you he would be a gun" i told you he could coach"
yeah we know already your just a genious at picking talent across all things AFL now for the love of god shut the eff up
:rollin l feel his another Ottens & will turn his back on the club, openly heard to say too have a ambition to play along side my cousin.
With good form & top offers from another club he might take the bait
l told you so ;D
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He'd want to make the move to StKilda pretty soon then considering Nick will be 28 this year and their team is one of the oldest in the competition.
Pretty ridiculous call to make
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:rollin l feel his another Ottens & will turn his back on the club, openly heard to say too have a ambition to play along side my cousin.
With good form & top offers from another club he might take the bait
l told you so ;D
LMAO at this latest fabricated 'revelation'
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openly heard to say too have a ambition to play along side my cousin.
Do we really want that sooky cry baby at Richmond, even if Jack can convince him to come across ;D
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BTW alot of people were caning Jack too at the start of the season!
FFS can you give it a rest with the i told u so's. thats all i hear from you. "I told you he would be a gun" i told you he could coach"
yeah we know already your just a genious at picking talent across all things AFL now for the love of god shut the eff up
Edit: swearing
Hmmm! Considering that the post i made was not designed to target anyone then i would assume you bagged Jack judging by the knee jerk reaction! Oh hang on, Daniel bags everyone! Not just Jack!
Now, before you accuse me of the 'i told you sos', you should drag your bitter bum back through some comments you have made regarding our ex-coach and some players he recruited! Absolutely chock-a-block full of i told you sos!
Another thing, this is a forum so i refuse to shut the eff up!
I have also never professed to being a talent scout either!
I dont like to bag our players or coach and i try to remain as positive as i can so therefore allow me to be a little pleased when a player comes out above the premature death sentences that some people on this forum have pronounced!
You are entitled to your opinion, as is everyone else, and i respect that, so please respect mine and those of others too!
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Do we really want that sooky cry baby at Richmond, even if Jack can convince him to come across ;D
:lol
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BTW alot of people were caning Jack too at the start of the season!
FFS can you give it a rest with the i told u so's. thats all i hear from you. "I told you he would be a gun" i told you he could coach"
yeah we know already your just a genious at picking talent across all things AFL now for the love of god shut the eff up
:rollin l feel his another Ottens & will turn his back on the club, openly heard to say too have a ambition to play along side my cousin.
With good form & top offers from another club he might take the bait
l told you so ;D
:lol, interesting little summation there.
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The most important thing is to keep grounded. Hardwick is doing a good job. We need sustained success. The tough decisions still need to be made. I agree with MAT73
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BTW alot of people were caning Jack too at the start of the season!
FFS can you give it a rest with the i told u so's. thats all i hear from you. "I told you he would be a gun" i told you he could coach"
yeah we know already your just a genious at picking talent across all things AFL now for the love of god shut the eff up
Edit: swearing
Hmmm! Considering that the post i made was not designed to target anyone then i would assume you bagged Jack judging by the knee jerk reaction! Oh hang on, Daniel bags everyone! Not just Jack!
Now, before you accuse me of the 'i told you sos', you should drag your bitter bum back through some comments you have made regarding our ex-coach and some players he recruited! Absolutely chock-a-block full of i told you sos!
Another thing, this is a forum so i refuse to shut the eff up!
I have also never professed to being a talent scout either!
I dont like to bag our players or coach and i try to remain as positive as i can so therefore allow me to be a little pleased when a player comes out above the premature death sentences that some people on this forum have pronounced!
You are entitled to your opinion, as is everyone else, and i respect that, so please respect mine and those of others too!
once again you are wrong mick but on this forum we come to expect that from you.
find one and i mean one post where i have "EVER" bagged Jack. You will be searching for a very long time pal just as long as your mrs does every night
Ooh and if i did so what it contradicts what you said "everyone has an opinion and you respect that"
Next time you should choose your words a little better.
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BTW alot of people were caning Jack too at the start of the season!
FFS can you give it a rest with the i told u so's. thats all i hear from you. "I told you he would be a gun" i told you he could coach"
yeah we know already your just a genious at picking talent across all things AFL now for the love of god shut the eff up
Edit: swearing
Hmmm! Considering that the post i made was not designed to target anyone then i would assume you bagged Jack judging by the knee jerk reaction! Oh hang on, Daniel bags everyone! Not just Jack!
Now, before you accuse me of the 'i told you sos', you should drag your bitter bum back through some comments you have made regarding our ex-coach and some players he recruited! Absolutely chock-a-block full of i told you sos!
Another thing, this is a forum so i refuse to shut the eff up!
I have also never professed to being a talent scout either!
I dont like to bag our players or coach and i try to remain as positive as i can so therefore allow me to be a little pleased when a player comes out above the premature death sentences that some people on this forum have pronounced!
You are entitled to your opinion, as is everyone else, and i respect that, so please respect mine and those of others too!
once again you are wrong mick but on this forum we come to expect that from you.
find one and i mean one post where i have "EVER" bagged Jack. You will be searching for a very long time pal just as long as your mrs does every night
Ooh and if i did so what it contradicts what you said "everyone has an opinion and you respect that"
Next time you should choose your words a little better.
and you, young man, should learn how to spell
:wallywink
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BTW alot of people were caning Jack too at the start of the season!
FFS can you give it a rest with the i told u so's. thats all i hear from you. "I told you he would be a gun" i told you he could coach"
yeah we know already your just a genious at picking talent across all things AFL now for the love of god shut the eff up
Edit: swearing
Hmmm! Considering that the post i made was not designed to target anyone then i would assume you bagged Jack judging by the knee jerk reaction! Oh hang on, Daniel bags everyone! Not just Jack!
Now, before you accuse me of the 'i told you sos', you should drag your bitter bum back through some comments you have made regarding our ex-coach and some players he recruited! Absolutely chock-a-block full of i told you sos!
Another thing, this is a forum so i refuse to shut the eff up!
I have also never professed to being a talent scout either!
I dont like to bag our players or coach and i try to remain as positive as i can so therefore allow me to be a little pleased when a player comes out above the premature death sentences that some people on this forum have pronounced!
You are entitled to your opinion, as is everyone else, and i respect that, so please respect mine and those of others too!
once again you are wrong mick but on this forum we come to expect that from you.
find one and i mean one post where i have "EVER" bagged Jack. You will be searching for a very long time pal just as long as your mrs does every night
Ooh and if i did so what it contradicts what you said "everyone has an opinion and you respect that"
Next time you should choose your words a little better.
If you have not bagged jack then why bite so hard!
Another thing, never ever bring my wife into this! I will tolerate criticism of my posts, it is a forum after all! However, when you feel that your football knowledge or your intelligence is being tested then please don't resort to personel insults! It is a trait of yours to drag the intelligence of the argument between mature adults into a personal slanging match as you lack the acumen to construct reasonable points!
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BTW alot of people were caning Jack too at the start of the season!
FFS can you give it a rest with the i told u so's. thats all i hear from you. "I told you he would be a gun" i told you he could coach"
yeah we know already your just a genious at picking talent across all things AFL now for the love of god shut the eff up
Edit: swearing
Hmmm! Considering that the post i made was not designed to target anyone then i would assume you bagged Jack judging by the knee jerk reaction! Oh hang on, Daniel bags everyone! Not just Jack!
Now, before you accuse me of the 'i told you sos', you should drag your bitter bum back through some comments you have made regarding our ex-coach and some players he recruited! Absolutely chock-a-block full of i told you sos!
Another thing, this is a forum so i refuse to shut the eff up!
I have also never professed to being a talent scout either!
I dont like to bag our players or coach and i try to remain as positive as i can so therefore allow me to be a little pleased when a player comes out above the premature death sentences that some people on this forum have pronounced!
You are entitled to your opinion, as is everyone else, and i respect that, so please respect mine and those of others too!
once again you are wrong mick but on this forum we come to expect that from you.
find one and i mean one post where i have "EVER" bagged Jack. You will be searching for a very long time pal just as long as your mrs does every night
Ooh and if i did so what it contradicts what you said "everyone has an opinion and you respect that"
Next time you should choose your words a little better.
If you have not bagged jack then why bite so hard!
Another thing, never ever bring my wife into this! I will tolerate criticism of my posts, it is a forum after all! However, when you feel that your football knowledge or your intelligence is being tested then please don't resort to personel insults! It is a trait of yours to drag the intelligence of the argument between mature adults into a personal slanging match as you lack the acumen to construct reasonable points!
hey champ last time i checked you dont make the rules ill write what i like.
1965 your a little gem you are. Could have guessed you would pipe up with that old spelling chestnut
all we need is WA Tiger to rear its ugly head and we quite a little posse going on.
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BTW alot of people were caning Jack too at the start of the season!
FFS can you give it a rest with the i told u so's. thats all i hear from you. "I told you he would be a gun" i told you he could coach"
yeah we know already your just a genious at picking talent across all things AFL now for the love of god shut the eff up
Edit: swearing
Hmmm! Considering that the post i made was not designed to target anyone then i would assume you bagged Jack judging by the knee jerk reaction! Oh hang on, Daniel bags everyone! Not just Jack!
Now, before you accuse me of the 'i told you sos', you should drag your bitter bum back through some comments you have made regarding our ex-coach and some players he recruited! Absolutely chock-a-block full of i told you sos!
Another thing, this is a forum so i refuse to shut the eff up!
I have also never professed to being a talent scout either!
I dont like to bag our players or coach and i try to remain as positive as i can so therefore allow me to be a little pleased when a player comes out above the premature death sentences that some people on this forum have pronounced!
You are entitled to your opinion, as is everyone else, and i respect that, so please respect mine and those of others too!
once again you are wrong mick but on this forum we come to expect that from you.
find one and i mean one post where i have "EVER" bagged Jack. You will be searching for a very long time pal just as long as your mrs does every night
Ooh and if i did so what it contradicts what you said "everyone has an opinion and you respect that"
Next time you should choose your words a little better.
and you, young man, should learn how to spell
:wallywink
I think Danny boy has singled out the wrong person! My name is not Mick! Maybe Mick has left and if so good riddons, or is it ribbons? Nah its good buy!
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its amazing what a few wins does to peoples perspective.
the last time i looked we were second from bottom beaten three absolutely struggling sides and showed some grit to get up over sydney who may or may not finish top 8.it was a good win but really the game should have been over well before three quarter time. the old saying never give a mug an even break rings true.
the last time i looked the players mentioned still have the same deficiencies.king and white are duds end of story. tuck has maybe two yrs left is still very deficient but will stay because we have very few big bodies yet alone big bodies of quality.
we are miles away and leopards do not change their spots.
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Good on you Claw....hopefully after the weekend you could add "Top 4 pretender" to our list of scalps. :thumbsup
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its amazing what a few wins does to peoples perspective.
the last time i looked we were second from bottom beaten three absolutely struggling sides and showed some grit to get up over sydney who may or may not finish top 8.it was a good win but really the game should have been over well before three quarter time. the old saying never give a mug an even break rings true.
the last time i looked the players mentioned still have the same deficiencies.king and white are duds end of story. tuck has maybe two yrs left is still very deficient but will stay because we have very few big bodies yet alone big bodies of quality.
we are miles away and leopards do not change their spots.
Are you saying you think that what this team is currently dishing up is no different to what we got under wallace frawley geishan or walls? That you can see no difference?
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its amazing what a few wins does to peoples perspective.
the last time i looked we were second from bottom beaten three absolutely struggling sides and showed some grit to get up over sydney who may or may not finish top 8.it was a good win but really the game should have been over well before three quarter time. the old saying never give a mug an even break rings true.
the last time i looked the players mentioned still have the same deficiencies.king and white are duds end of story. tuck has maybe two yrs left is still very deficient but will stay because we have very few big bodies yet alone big bodies of quality.
we are miles away and leopards do not change their spots.
White cannot be a back up player on the list?
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its amazing what a few wins does to peoples perspective.
the last time i looked we were second from bottom beaten three absolutely struggling sides and showed some grit to get up over sydney who may or may not finish top 8.it was a good win but really the game should have been over well before three quarter time. the old saying never give a mug an even break rings true.
the last time i looked the players mentioned still have the same deficiencies.king and white are duds end of story. tuck has maybe two yrs left is still very deficient but will stay because we have very few big bodies yet alone big bodies of quality.
we are miles away and leopards do not change their spots.
White cannot be a back up player on the list?
sheesh i would of thought the thing you do with back up types is trade them out or delist them in an attempt to fill that spot with something more than very ordinary. the big question is not if you are going to delist/trade them but when. that depends on how many they are planning to get rid of this yr. the way people are talking it seems only one or two need to go along with a couple of rookies.
people are adamant such deficient players like white tuck king jackson mcguane etc etc are here to stay for good. ihate to break the news to them that despite a couple of wins we are still looking at a wooden spoon or thereabouts.
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its amazing what a few wins does to peoples perspective.
the last time i looked we were second from bottom beaten three absolutely struggling sides and showed some grit to get up over sydney who may or may not finish top 8.it was a good win but really the game should have been over well before three quarter time. the old saying never give a mug an even break rings true.
the last time i looked the players mentioned still have the same deficiencies.king and white are duds end of story. tuck has maybe two yrs left is still very deficient but will stay because we have very few big bodies yet alone big bodies of quality.
we are miles away and leopards do not change their spots.
White cannot be a back up player on the list?
No! Apparently every player on the list should be an out and out champion!
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What are whites deficiencies v his attributes?
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its amazing what a few wins does to peoples perspective.
the last time i looked we were second from bottom beaten three absolutely struggling sides and showed some grit to get up over sydney who may or may not finish top 8.it was a good win but really the game should have been over well before three quarter time. the old saying never give a mug an even break rings true.
the last time i looked the players mentioned still have the same deficiencies.king and white are duds end of story. tuck has maybe two yrs left is still very deficient but will stay because we have very few big bodies yet alone big bodies of quality.
we are miles away and leopards do not change their spots.
Please dont talk sense Claw! This is a forum where the likes of King, Tuck and afew others get promoted to champion status coz we win a couple of games lol.