One-Eyed Richmond Forum

Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: one-eyed on July 10, 2010, 11:23:24 PM

Title: Jacko reported
Post by: one-eyed on July 10, 2010, 11:23:24 PM
Reports: Jackson (Richmond) reported in the first quarter for rough conduct against Ballantyne (Fremantle)
Title: Re: Jacko reported
Post by: jackstar is back again on July 10, 2010, 11:34:53 PM
4 weeks min
Title: Re: Jacko reported
Post by: TigerTimeII on July 10, 2010, 11:38:35 PM
soft, ballyntine is a weak dog
Title: Re: Jacko reported
Post by: jackstar is back again on July 10, 2010, 11:47:43 PM
you cannot punch a guy in the head when the ball is 50 metres down the ground, especially when he wasnt looking
Title: Re: Jacko reported
Post by: Ox on July 10, 2010, 11:50:15 PM
Jacko is part of the team fibre whether some like to admit it or not.
We miss him and his take no poo attitude when he;s suspended
Title: Re: Jacko reported
Post by: Ramps on July 10, 2010, 11:51:16 PM
he's becoming a liability IMHO. Cant Kick and getting himself suspended all the time. At best he is a squad player.
Title: Re: Jacko reported
Post by: Ox on July 10, 2010, 11:55:28 PM
you're just soft. ::)
Title: Re: Jacko reported
Post by: Con65 on July 10, 2010, 11:59:12 PM
ramps...Jacko is def NOT a squad player...and i suggest that you re look at the replay...he can kick...in fact he has less hang time on his kicks and can kick if 50 metres low and fast....just my thoughts anyway...
Title: Re: Jacko reported
Post by: Ox on July 11, 2010, 12:01:05 AM
ramps...Jacko is def NOT a squad player...and i suggest that you re look at the replay...he can kick...in fact he has less hang time on his kicks and can kick if 50 metres low and fast....just my thoughts anyway...

your thoughts are right,re!
Title: Re: Jacko reported
Post by: TigerTimeII on July 11, 2010, 12:05:51 AM
Jacko is part of the team fibre whether some like to admit it or not.
We miss him and his take no poo attitude when he;s suspended

agree

and that ballyntine worm should have got out of his way


jackson is our enforcer we need him
Title: Re: Jacko reported
Post by: mightytiges on July 11, 2010, 04:13:30 AM
The MRP won't go easy on Jacko given he's already been suspended for 3 weeks this year. If Jacko is lucky he'll get 2 weeks with an early plea.

High contact (2 points)
Reckless (2 points)
low impact (1 point)
---------------------------
So 5 activation points = Level 2 Rough conduct = 225 points

+ 30% loading for previous 3 weeks suspension: 225 + 67.5 = 292.5 points.

+ 30 carry over points from last time: 292.5 + 30 = 322.5 points

With early plea of 25%: 322.5 - 32.3 = 290.2 points

So a 2 week suspension + 90.2 carry over points if he takes the early plea. 3 weeks if he challenges at the tribunal and loses again.

If the impact is considered to be medium rather than low then add on another 100 points and so another week off.

http://www.afl.com.au/Portals/0/afl_docs/afl_hq/Policies/Tribunal_Booklet_2009.pdf
Title: Re: Jacko reported
Post by: Chuck17 on July 11, 2010, 07:21:03 AM
At least he put that little turd out of action, he had a shocker after that.
Title: Re: Jacko reported
Post by: TigerTimeII on July 11, 2010, 08:45:19 AM
At least he put that little turd out of action, he had a shocker after that.

yep

should have done the same to sandilands also and pavlich
Title: Re: Jacko reported
Post by: Tigermonk on July 11, 2010, 08:59:41 AM
Jacko is part of the team fibre whether some like to admit it or not.
We miss him and his take no poo attitude when he;s suspended

agree

and that ballyntine worm should have got out of his way


jackson is our enforcer we need him

Was great that little sniper prick got it a few times last night mate. Jackson should get a holiday provided from one of the sponsors  ;D
Title: Re: Jacko reported
Post by: Owl on July 11, 2010, 10:24:31 AM
I heard it was a shirt front not a punch and there wasn't any footage of it.  Whats the MRP gonna review.  Unless Ballantyne squeals...
Title: Re: Jacko reported
Post by: Beren on July 11, 2010, 10:32:36 AM
he's becoming a liability IMHO. Cant Kick and getting himself suspended all the time. At best he is a squad player.

Best piece of uninformed garbage I've read here in a while.
Title: Re: Jacko reported
Post by: Gigantor on July 11, 2010, 10:50:54 AM
To be honest i dont mind our players being nasty SOB ..I want us to be nasty buggers.i've had it with Richmond being nice boys....The lads are making a statement here and lets back them to the hilt
Title: Re: Jacko reported
Post by: TigerLand on July 11, 2010, 01:01:58 PM
Well it looks like an old school report.

Vosso (I still don't know the rules after 150 games) reported Jacko so suggests to me that he saw it and can give evidence.

Nothing was shown on replay.

Staggering that in todays day in age Foxtel didn't have any vision of it. Same with the free kick King gave away in the final qtr that was 100m off the ball. Also no specific footage of the boundary line infringement. Foxtel have great coverage but seemed a few camera men were asleep last night.
Title: Re: Jacko reported
Post by: cub on July 11, 2010, 01:04:26 PM
We dont need suspensions, that said I dont mind too much! We have been
softco(ks for a long time, about time we harden t f up.
I like it. Jackos good value
Title: Re: Jacko reported
Post by: Tigeritis™©® on July 11, 2010, 01:39:15 PM
Jacko is part of the team fibre whether some like to admit it or not.
We miss him and his take no poo attitude when he;s suspended

agree.  :clapping
Title: Re: Jacko reported
Post by: bojangles17 on July 11, 2010, 01:47:13 PM
I heard it was a shirt front not a punch and there wasn't any footage of it.  Whats the MRP gonna review.  Unless Ballantyne squeals...

thats what I understand to, off the ball though , will be lucky to get only 2 ...is a good tough player Jacko, does not take a backward step :gotigers
Title: Re: Jacko reported
Post by: mightytiges on July 11, 2010, 05:37:44 PM
I heard it was a shirt front not a punch and there wasn't any footage of it.  Whats the MRP gonna review.  Unless Ballantyne squeals...

thats what I understand to, off the ball though , will be lucky to get only 2 ...is a good tough player Jacko, does not take a backward step :gotigers
That's why Jacko was charged with rough conduct rather than striking. If it was a punch it would be a striking charge.

And yep targetting Ballantyne wasn't a bad ploy. A key player for them and he did sweet all for the night as Chucky said.
Title: Re: Jacko reported
Post by: Stripes on July 11, 2010, 07:44:19 PM
I wonder if he contested the charge he could get off because of lack of evidence. If the Review Panel has no footage to use and a partial eye witness account perhaps they will have no choice but to throw out the case.... :pray
Title: Re: Jacko reported
Post by: mightytiges on July 11, 2010, 08:36:19 PM
I wonder if he contested the charge he could get off because of lack of evidence. If the Review Panel has no footage to use and a partial eye witness account perhaps they will have no choice but to throw out the case.... :pray
Didn't Vozzo report Jacko?
Title: Re: Jacko reported
Post by: Ox on July 12, 2010, 01:08:50 AM
spiteful game in close i reckon.
Gus was taken out a beauty.

Those who say get behind Jacko as we need more hard arses - u echo my sentiment.
Title: Re: Jacko reported
Post by: Tigermonk on July 12, 2010, 01:21:10 AM
We dont need suspensions, that said I dont mind too much! We have been
softco(ks for a long time, about time we harden t f up.
I like it. Jackos good value

agree  :thumbsup
Title: Re: Jacko reported
Post by: wayne on July 12, 2010, 04:59:10 PM
Jacko has been offered two weeks.
Title: Re: Jacko reported
Post by: one-eyed on July 12, 2010, 05:01:15 PM
Jacko has been offered two weeks.
Is that with the early plea wayne?
Title: Re: Jacko reported
Post by: wayne on July 12, 2010, 05:04:45 PM
Jacko has been offered two weeks.
Is that with the early plea wayne?

Not sure, they have just said a 2 week suspension for striking Ballantyne.
Title: Re: Jacko reported
Post by: one-eyed on July 12, 2010, 05:09:01 PM
Jacko has been offered two weeks.
Is that with the early plea wayne?

Not sure, they have just said a 2 week suspension for striking Ballantyne.
No probs :cheers

Title: Re: Jacko reported
Post by: wayne on July 12, 2010, 05:11:15 PM
Jacko has been offered two weeks.
Is that with the early plea wayne?

Not sure, they have just said a 2 week suspension for striking Ballantyne.
No probs :cheers



Rough conduct SEN are saying now
Title: Re: Jacko reported
Post by: Smokey on July 12, 2010, 06:44:38 PM
And even with an early plea still 2 weeks.
Title: Re: Jacko reported
Post by: 1965 on July 12, 2010, 06:50:01 PM
Daniel Jackson, Richmond, has been charged with a level two engaging in rough conduct offence against Hayden Ballantyne, Fremantle, during the first quarter of the round 15 match between Richmond and Fremantle, played at Etihad Stadium on Saturday July 10, 2010.

In summary, his previous poor record means that his two-game penalty must remain at two matches, even with an early plea.

The incident was assessed as reckless conduct (two points), medium impact (two points) and body contact (one point). This is a total of five activation points, resulting in a classification of a Level Two offence, drawing 225 demerit points and a two-match sanction. He has an existing bad record of three matches suspended within the last three years, increasing the penalty by 30 per cent to 292.50 points. He also has 30 demerit points carried over from within the last 12 months, increasing the penalty to 322.50 points and a three-match sanction. An early plea reduces the sanction by 25 per cent to 241.88 points and a two-match sanction.

http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/98046/default.aspx
Title: Re: Jacko reported
Post by: Jacosh on July 12, 2010, 07:41:37 PM
Almost sounds like dealing with a dodgy used car salesman afer you have signed on the dotted line, shrug the sholders and take it.  Better than bending over and taking it the other way. :gotigers
Title: Re: Jacko reported
Post by: wayne on July 13, 2010, 09:44:38 AM
Jacko certainly shook the little twit up after he smacked him. 2 weeks is worth it I reckon.

Cousins is a good replacement for Jacko.
Title: Re: Jacko reported
Post by: Ramps on July 13, 2010, 10:02:59 AM
he's becoming a liability IMHO. Cant Kick and getting himself suspended all the time. At best he is a squad player.

Best piece of uninformed garbage I've read here in a while.

lol - I dont believe he is a Premiership player. If he makes a GF side he would be player 20 to 22. Hes a squad player. Beren your the type of bloke who would reckon that Jake King is a Richmond Premiership Player in the making along with Thomson and Hislop. You also probably wanted Rawlings to coach in front of Hardwick- you were probably one of the clowns running around contemplating running a petition to get Rawlings the Job- lol.
Title: Re: Jacko reported
Post by: Stripes on July 13, 2010, 11:47:43 AM
Difference between Jackson and Cousins is that Jackson has all the qualities of an ideal tagger while Cousins doesn't. With Jackson out we need to find someone with comparitive strength and endurance to fufill the role. King has been playing a sort of tagging role on players this year but we may need one other.

Including Cousins and Tambling should be an almost given. Replacing Griffiths with either Post or Gourdis is the other decision that needs to be made.

Interestingly, we don't have a lot of players who can tag.

Stripes
Title: Re: Jacko reported
Post by: Tigermonk on July 13, 2010, 01:03:31 PM
Difference between Jackson and Cousins is that Jackson has all the qualities of an ideal tagger while Cousins doesn't. With Jackson out we need to find someone with comparitive strength and endurance to fufill the role. King has been playing a sort of tagging role on players this year but we may need one other.

Including Cousins and Tambling should be an almost given. Replacing Griffiths with either Post or Gourdis is the other decision that needs to be made.

Interestingly, we don't have a lot of players who can tag.

Stripes

yes but Cousins tags a tagger most times so can work both ways
Title: Re: Jacko reported
Post by: one-eyed on July 13, 2010, 03:00:03 PM
Jacko has accepted the 2-week suspension. So he'll miss the North and Collingwood games.


Tiger Daniel Jackson will sit out the next two rounds for engaging in rough conduct against Fremantle's Hayden Ballantyne on Saturday night, bringing his tally of games missed through suspension to five for the season.

http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/98112/default.aspx

 
Title: Re: Jacko reported
Post by: Beren on July 13, 2010, 03:02:02 PM
he's becoming a liability IMHO. Cant Kick and getting himself suspended all the time. At best he is a squad player.

Best piece of uninformed garbage I've read here in a while.

lol - I dont believe he is a Premiership player. If he makes a GF side he would be player 20 to 22. Hes a squad player. Beren your the type of bloke who would reckon that Jake King is a Richmond Premiership Player in the making along with Thomson and Hislop. You also probably wanted Rawlings to coach in front of Hardwick- you were probably one of the clowns running around contemplating running a petition to get Rawlings the Job- lol.

Once again you are so far off the truth with your uniformed suppositions it's hilarious. :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin
Title: Re: Jacko reported
Post by: Ramps on July 13, 2010, 05:48:57 PM
he's becoming a liability IMHO. Cant Kick and getting himself suspended all the time. At best he is a squad player.

Best piece of uninformed garbage I've read here in a while.

lol - I dont believe he is a Premiership player. If he makes a GF side he would be player 20 to 22. Hes a squad player. Beren your the type of bloke who would reckon that Jake King is a Richmond Premiership Player in the making along with Thomson and Hislop. You also probably wanted Rawlings to coach in front of Hardwick- you were probably one of the clowns running around contemplating running a petition to get Rawlings the Job- lol.

Once again you are so far off the truth with your uniformed suppositions it's hilarious. :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin


How is your mate Jade going at Brisbane. He and Vossie and the boys doing a remarkable job up there  :lol
Title: Re: Jacko reported
Post by: 1965 on July 13, 2010, 06:01:50 PM
he's becoming a liability IMHO. Cant Kick and getting himself suspended all the time. At best he is a squad player.

Best piece of uninformed garbage I've read here in a while.

lol - I dont believe he is a Premiership player. If he makes a GF side he would be player 20 to 22. Hes a squad player. Beren your the type of bloke who would reckon that Jake King is a Richmond Premiership Player in the making along with Thomson and Hislop. You also probably wanted Rawlings to coach in front of Hardwick- you were probably one of the clowns running around contemplating running a petition to get Rawlings the Job- lol.

 :sleep

Once again you are so far off the truth with your uniformed suppositions it's hilarious. :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin


How is your mate Jade going at Brisbane. He and Vossie and the boys doing a remarkable job up there  :lol
Title: Re: Jacko reported
Post by: Beren on July 13, 2010, 07:49:43 PM


Once again you are so far off the truth with your uniformed suppositions it's hilarious. :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin


How is your mate Jade going at Brisbane. He and Vossie and the boys doing a remarkable job up there  :lol
[/quote]

What on earth is with your fascination with Jade?
I certainly don't know him.
Your fanciful delusions are really weird. Seriously you need help.
Title: Re: Jacko reported
Post by: Ramps on July 13, 2010, 08:46:12 PM
he's becoming a liability IMHO. Cant Kick and getting himself suspended all the time. At best he is a squad player.

Best piece of uninformed garbage I've read here in a while.

You attacked my opinion and I decided to do the same thats all!  ;D
Title: Re: Jacko reported
Post by: yellowandback on July 13, 2010, 09:08:45 PM
Jacko certainly shook the little twit up after he smacked him. 2 weeks is worth it I reckon.

Cousins is a good replacement for Jacko.

IIRC he was a real smart rs the 1st time we played them. Typical Docker, walks tall at Subi and goes missing in Melbourne. They can't win a flag with squibs like him, if fact they'll be lucky to win a final
Title: Re: Jacko reported
Post by: TigerLand on July 13, 2010, 09:11:44 PM
Difference between Jackson and Cousins is that Jackson has all the qualities of an ideal tagger while Cousins doesn't. With Jackson out we need to find someone with comparitive strength and endurance to fufill the role. King has been playing a sort of tagging role on players this year but we may need one other.

Including Cousins and Tambling should be an almost given. Replacing Griffiths with either Post or Gourdis is the other decision that needs to be made.

Interestingly, we don't have a lot of players who can tag.

Stripes

yes but Cousins tags a tagger most times so can work both ways

When was the last time you watched football....

Cousins tagging a tagger... yeah.. One of games best midfielders in the last 25 years most tmes tags a run with dribbler.

That has never happened once in his 250 game career.
Title: Re: Jacko reported
Post by: jackstar is back again on July 13, 2010, 09:15:49 PM
I think they mean this.
If Cousins is getting tagged, he will try and run to an opposition player, thus causing a 2 on 1, therefore releasing one of him team mates
Title: Re: Jacko reported
Post by: the_boy_jake on July 13, 2010, 10:37:11 PM
Jacko's a loss for us. Brings real grunt to a young side. His disposal isn't terrible, its terribly inconsistent at times, but its much better than Kingy for example. Sometimes Jack's spearing kicks are unreal. And for people who say you can't have a player who's more than anything else a good hard nut in a premiership side -

Scott boys
Josh Carr
Campbell Brown
Johnsons at Essendon

Of course when the rest of the team is up and running these blokes deficiencies are less obvious. When the rest of the team falls away or they move on, they look a lot more average.
Title: Re: Jacko reported
Post by: Smokey on July 14, 2010, 06:38:07 AM
Jacko certainly shook the little twit up after he smacked him. 2 weeks is worth it I reckon.

Cousins is a good replacement for Jacko.

IIRC he was a real smart rs the 1st time we played them. Typical Docker, walks tall at Subi and goes missing in Melbourne. They can't win a flag with squibs like him, if fact they'll be lucky to win a final

I only hope that whoever plays Fremantle this week has someone come out and do the exact same thing.  The sniveling little germ won't get another kick for the year - gutless sniping whingeing little twit.
Title: Re: Jacko reported
Post by: Tigermonk on July 14, 2010, 10:15:41 AM
Difference between Jackson and Cousins is that Jackson has all the qualities of an ideal tagger while Cousins doesn't. With Jackson out we need to find someone with comparitive strength and endurance to fufill the role. King has been playing a sort of tagging role on players this year but we may need one other.

Including Cousins and Tambling should be an almost given. Replacing Griffiths with either Post or Gourdis is the other decision that needs to be made.

Interestingly, we don't have a lot of players who can tag.

Stripes

yes but Cousins tags a tagger most times so can work both ways

When was the last time you watched football....

Cousins tagging a tagger... yeah.. One of games best midfielders in the last 25 years most tmes tags a run with dribbler.

That has never happened once in his 250 game career.

 :rollin oh was wondering what you were attacking me about in this post  ;D
l put in a wrong word it was meant to be TAKES NOT TAG
but being the stuffing stupid person you are,  instead of saying l think you mean TAKES instead of Tag a tagger

you moron  :lol
Title: Re: Jacko reported
Post by: Tigermonk on July 14, 2010, 10:35:38 AM


I only hope that whoever plays Fremantle this week has someone come out and do the exact same thing.  The sniveling little germ won't get another kick for the year - gutless sniping whingeing little twit.

Thats it Smokey, showing your colors now  ;D  :thumbsup

l been condoned in the past by many on here before,  about using such tactics on players & this just goes to show how effective it is.
That little sniper does it too many players,  sames as Crowley, Campbell Brown, North Melbourne team  ;D Baker, every team has a player. Just ours have lacked it in the past or done the wrong players.
The player Jackson smashed is a very damaging player who kicks goals & sets them up every week & if Jackson didnot clobber him it could have been a different result. lMO l beleive it would have been not taking anything away from our players or the win the result of that strike was excellent. l been wishing someone from any club would smash him.
Now someone has a chance to step up & claim a place in the side while someone else needs to take over the biff role if required ;D & against the Roos watch the knees go in when our players are on the ground
Title: Re: Jacko reported
Post by: TigerLand on July 14, 2010, 03:06:58 PM
Difference between Jackson and Cousins is that Jackson has all the qualities of an ideal tagger while Cousins doesn't. With Jackson out we need to find someone with comparitive strength and endurance to fufill the role. King has been playing a sort of tagging role on players this year but we may need one other.

Including Cousins and Tambling should be an almost given. Replacing Griffiths with either Post or Gourdis is the other decision that needs to be made.

Interestingly, we don't have a lot of players who can tag.

Stripes

yes but Cousins tags a tagger most times so can work both ways

When was the last time you watched football....

Cousins tagging a tagger... yeah.. One of games best midfielders in the last 25 years most tmes tags a run with dribbler.

That has never happened once in his 250 game career.

 :rollin oh was wondering what you were attacking me about in this post  ;D
l put in a wrong word it was meant to be TAKES NOT TAG
but being the effing stupid person you are,  instead of saying l think you mean TAKES instead of Tag a tagger

you moron  :lol

Don't blame me for you caveman speak,

"Cousins takes a tagger most weeks so it works both ways"

In response to the fact we don't have any taggers. That doesn't make any sense in context anyway. It also is incorrect.

Cousins hasn't been tagged since his WCE days, with the exception of maybe 1 or 2 games at most at Richmond.

So I stand by my initial post.

Do you watch football?

Title: Re: Jacko reported
Post by: one-eyed on July 29, 2010, 01:10:51 PM
Hardwick got stuck into Jacko today about getting suspended and it costing us games....


“We spoke to him [Jackson about the suspension],” Hardwick said.

“We want guys to play up to the line, but we don’t want them to step over it and that’s what Daniel’s done.

“He’s let the team down. He’s an outstanding leader on the field for us, we were disappointed in his actions and he’s cost us games. It’s amazing how the importance of one player around a stoppage situation can be and he’s cost us dearly the five weeks that he’s been out.”

http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/6301/newsid/99222/default.aspx
Title: Re: Jacko reported
Post by: Beren on August 03, 2010, 03:08:28 PM
You forgot the rest:

Hardwick on Daniel Jackson:
“I must admit before getting here I didn’t rate him anywhere near as highly as I do now. He is an enormous talent, not only on-field but his leadership is outstanding. Being near the ground you can hear his voice around the ground and he just does not stop talking. He has become, in my eyes, an elite player of this footy club. He’s just got to stop getting bloody suspended.”

Herald Sun 17/7/10
Title: Re: Jacko reported
Post by: richmondrules on August 03, 2010, 03:14:45 PM
Arrrgh!! Don't do that! I saw this thread pop up to the top of the list and thought. Not Again!!!  ;D

Didn't think he'd done anything wrong against Adelaide.
Title: Re: Jacko reported
Post by: WilliamPowell on August 03, 2010, 06:28:30 PM
Didn't think he'd done anything wrong against Adelaide.

Disposal (in particular kicking) was not the best on Sunday.

And also thought he did a few foolish things when he tried to take the opposition on when the option was to handball to the player running past
Title: Re: Jacko reported
Post by: TigerTimeII on August 03, 2010, 07:05:11 PM
Didn't think he'd done anything wrong against Adelaide.

Disposal (in particular kicking) was not the best on Sunday.

And also thought he did a few foolish things when he tried to take the opposition on when the option was to handball to the player running past

his disposal has improved remarkably and conditions were very difficult to be 100% polished

some of his disposals were first rate esp his handballs

very harsh to complain about skills in weather like that
Title: Re: Jacko reported
Post by: richmondrules on August 03, 2010, 08:00:23 PM
Didn't think he'd done anything wrong against Adelaide.

Disposal (in particular kicking) was not the best on Sunday.

And also thought he did a few foolish things when he tried to take the opposition on when the option was to handball to the player running past

lol. Maybe, but I don't think you can get reported for any of those. :)
Title: Re: Jacko reported
Post by: WilliamPowell on August 03, 2010, 09:12:47 PM
lol. Maybe, but I don't think you can get reported for any of those. :)

 ;D

Didn't think he'd done anything wrong against Adelaide.

Disposal (in particular kicking) was not the best on Sunday.

And also thought he did a few foolish things when he tried to take the opposition on when the option was to handball to the player running past

his disposal has improved remarkably and conditions were very difficult to be 100% polished

some of his disposals were first rate esp his handballs

very harsh to complain about skills in weather like that

Not disputing some of his disposal were good but some of them were dreadful

And it wasn't raining all day so I don't think we can blame the weather  ;D
Title: Re: Jacko reported
Post by: TigerTimeII on August 03, 2010, 10:16:44 PM
lol. Maybe, but I don't think you can get reported for any of those. :)

 ;D

Didn't think he'd done anything wrong against Adelaide.

very blustery out there, many players struggled with their kicking even some very reliable adelaide players

Disposal (in particular kicking) was not the best on Sunday.

And also thought he did a few foolish things when he tried to take the opposition on when the option was to handball to the player running past

his disposal has improved remarkably and conditions were very difficult to be 100% polished

some of his disposals were first rate esp his handballs

very harsh to complain about skills in weather like that

Not disputing some of his disposal were good but some of them were dreadful

And it wasn't raining all day so I don't think we can blame the weather  ;D