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Title: Changes for the St Kilda game next week?
Post by: one-eyed on August 14, 2010, 04:53:03 PM
Fire away .....  :-\
Title: Re: Changes for the St Kilda game next week?
Post by: Judge Roughneck on August 14, 2010, 05:42:48 PM
In: taylor, rance, grimes, contin
Title: Re: Changes for the St Kilda game next week?
Post by: mightytiges on August 14, 2010, 05:47:44 PM
I know who WP will want out  ;D.

After today's "effort" you feel like replacing 18 players  :scream

In: Cotch, Rance or McGuane

Out: White (inj?), Cuz (inj?)


If Cuz is fine then Hicks possibly out instead.

We'll need to add more height down back next against St Kilda.
Title: Re: Changes for the St Kilda game next week?
Post by: tiger till i die on August 14, 2010, 05:50:17 PM
only one.. cotch,, make this team learn how to play football and maby get giffs to stand on the field :P  keep post up front and i dunno really

Get jack to kick more goals thats what wins us teh games
Title: Re: Changes for the St Kilda game next week?
Post by: rufio_1991 on August 14, 2010, 05:55:42 PM
OUT: White, Hicks
IN: Cotchin, Rance
Title: Re: Changes for the St Kilda game next week?
Post by: big tone on August 14, 2010, 07:38:31 PM
OUT- Ben (i fall over way to much for it to be, me losing my footing) Nason

Don't mean to be negative but his last month has been terrible! His biggest asset is his pace but diving on the ball or falling over does him no justice.
I hate to say it but he is scared!
We are going nowhere fast with players like Ben.
Harsh i know, but i just cannot see it.....
Title: Re: Changes for the St Kilda game next week?
Post by: Francois Jackson on August 14, 2010, 08:30:24 PM
OUT- Ben (i fall over way to much for it to be, me losing my footing) Nason

Don't mean to be negative but his last month has been terrible! His biggest asset is his pace but diving on the ball or falling over does him no justice.
I hate to say it but he is scared!
We are going nowhere fast with players like Ben.
Harsh i know, but i just cannot see it.....

BT im with you there.

Had a good first month or 2 but honestly how he is getting a game is beyond me. He is too raw and skinny for my liking and gets pushed off so easy its not funny.

Its been a long season clearly for him so not sure what Dimma is thinking by playing him.

Surely Taylor is a better option.
Title: Re: Changes for the St Kilda game next week?
Post by: jackstar is back again on August 14, 2010, 08:32:11 PM
I know who WP will want out  ;D.

After today's "effort" you feel like replacing 18 players  :scream

In: Cotch, Rance or McGuane

Out: White (inj?), Cuz (inj?)


If Cuz is fine then Hicks possibly out instead.

We'll need to add more height down back next against St Kilda.

Have to trade Connors
Title: Re: Changes for the St Kilda game next week?
Post by: Francois Jackson on August 14, 2010, 09:02:52 PM
Out: Nason, Connors, Hicks

In: Grimes, Taylor, no 3rd player required dont need one as today we played with less players.

I have seriously had enough of the lack of size in our players. We must be the skinnest team in the AFL

What makes me sick in the guts about today is we run players like Henderson into some form and Waite too FFS.

Icing on the cake is next week when Kosi does a job on us. :banghead :banghead



Title: Re: Changes for the St Kilda game next week?
Post by: Infamy on August 14, 2010, 09:54:24 PM
Out: Nason, Connors, Hicks

In: Grimes, Taylor, no 3rd player required dont need one as today we played with less players.
You don't want Cotchin back in the side?

Rance deserves a spot much more than Grimes does
Title: Re: Changes for the St Kilda game next week?
Post by: tony_montana on August 14, 2010, 09:58:17 PM
pee moore off and play rance, astbury and the goo as our tall defenders. Moore was simply terrible today. Connors out cotchin in.
Title: Re: Changes for the St Kilda game next week?
Post by: Ramps on August 14, 2010, 10:08:46 PM
Moore, McGuane, Thursfield and Conners should all be up for trade IMHO.
Title: Re: Changes for the St Kilda game next week?
Post by: Obelix on August 14, 2010, 11:15:20 PM
I've noticed contin mentioned in a couple of coburg reports of late - looking at his size I'm guessing he's a midfielder.

What sort of role do you see him playing at AFL level if he does make it (i.e. is he a runner or is he an inside mid)? And how far away does he look?

Title: Re: Changes for the St Kilda game next week?
Post by: Ox on August 14, 2010, 11:25:36 PM
pee moore off and play rance, astbury and the goo as our tall defenders. Moore was simply terrible today. Connors out cotchin in.

assberry was poo too
Title: Re: Changes for the St Kilda game next week?
Post by: Tigermonk on August 14, 2010, 11:28:56 PM
who cares just forfeit cause no-one at Coburg is any good & half the Richmond side l could cut very easy  :banghead

in Cotchin, Out ?????????????????????????????????????

Title: Re: Changes for the St Kilda game next week?
Post by: tony_montana on August 14, 2010, 11:58:38 PM
pee moore off and play rance, astbury and the goo as our tall defenders. Moore was simply terrible today. Connors out cotchin in.

assberry was poo too

so what, play the kids and stuff off has beens or never will be's like moore, mcguane and co who've had their chances over years
Title: Re: Changes for the St Kilda game next week?
Post by: TigerLand on August 15, 2010, 12:11:04 AM
pee moore off and play rance, astbury and the goo as our tall defenders. Moore was simply terrible today. Connors out cotchin in.

assberry was poo too

What a stuffing pea hearted post that is.

How clever of you.... That sort of sounds like "Astbury"..

Absolute pits of society... were you the flog that spat on Frawley?
Title: Re: Changes for the St Kilda game next week?
Post by: Ox on August 15, 2010, 01:05:23 AM
don't take it personally you cum pot :wallywink

It pleases me no end to see a neanderthal such as yourself,outraged by a post of mine. :thumbsup,especially one of such little effort and no true ill-will.

Are you Mrs Assberry or do you just need a root ??

Title: Re: Changes for the St Kilda game next week?
Post by: Ramps on August 15, 2010, 01:18:53 AM
pee moore off and play rance, astbury and the goo as our tall defenders. Moore was simply terrible today. Connors out cotchin in.

assberry was poo too

What a effing pea hearted post that is.

How clever of you.... That sort of sounds like "Astbury"..

Absolute pits of society... were you the flog that spat on Frawley?

take it easy pope its just a forum
Title: Re: Changes for the St Kilda game next week?
Post by: Ox on August 15, 2010, 01:27:57 AM
pee moore off and play rance, astbury and the goo as our tall defenders. Moore was simply terrible today. Connors out cotchin in.

assberry was poo too

so what, play the kids and eff off has beens or never will be's like moore, mcguane and co who've had their chances over years

no,we need to play the kids obviously.

I'm drawing attention to the fact he was outclassed by carlton hacks,wasn't accountable and looked johnsonesque at times in the way he got out of hard ball contests.

Moore is frustrating as when he's bad,he's horrid.
McGuane is expendable.
Thursfield -well,i would have rather kept Schulz.
Title: Re: Changes for the St Kilda game next week?
Post by: Ox on August 15, 2010, 01:32:47 AM
pee moore off and play rance, astbury and the goo as our tall defenders. Moore was simply terrible today. Connors out cotchin in.

assberry was poo too

What a effing pea hearted post that is.

How clever of you.... That sort of sounds like "Astbury"..

Absolute pits of society... were you the flog that spat on Frawley?

take it easy pope its just a forum

lmao ramps

Η νοείται πυρετού είναι πλήρης των όρχεων

Title: Re: Changes for the St Kilda game next week?
Post by: eliminator on August 15, 2010, 02:23:26 PM
In Cotchin, Vickery, Rance, Taylor and Thursfield. Out Hicks, Cousins(inj), White(inj) Browne, Nason(rest)
Title: Re: Changes for the St Kilda game next week?
Post by: big tone on August 15, 2010, 03:50:14 PM
Another one for me is Astbury.
Has done very little to show me he is our future. Does ok sometimes but on a whole just has not got that "something" you see in a young player that says, yes this kid MIGHT be ok.
I know he is a first year tall but sometimes you see that "something" in a kid very early on in there career.
Not me yet.....




Title: Re: Changes for the St Kilda game next week?
Post by: Ramps on August 15, 2010, 04:00:54 PM
Another one for me is Astbury.
Has done very little to show me he is our future. Does ok sometimes but on a whole just has not got that "something" you see in a young player that says, yes this kid MIGHT be ok.
I know he is a first year tall but sometimes you see that "something" in a kid very early on in there career.
Not me yet.....






when he kicked 3 - wasnt that a decent showing?
Title: Re: Changes for the St Kilda game next week?
Post by: WilliamPowell on August 15, 2010, 04:12:41 PM
I know who WP will want out  ;D.

After today's "effort" you feel like replacing 18 players  :scream

Well at least you've answered one of my questions regarding Cotch

Seroulsy I reckon there is probably only 6-8 who deserve a game next week the rest should be sent North Sunshine  ;D

INS: Cotchin, Rance, Taylor, Polak (struth if we are gifting games to Post why not  ;D), Polo  ;D

OUTS: Connors (continues to play selfish selfish footy  :banghead :banghead and the club continues to condone it and the media get seduced by the number of kicks he gets  :banghead :banghead),
          Nason (he needs a rest),
          Graham (needs a rest looked disinterested)
          Hicks
          White (inj)

REALLY LUCKY BLOKES:

Post: gotta get that trade value up somehow so he stays
O'Reilly: struggled with the pace of the game but I like Jimmy
Moore: flaps his arms a lot telling people what to do pit he doesn't follow his own advice
Collins: first game back after injury so he's sort of excused
Jackson: the stats say 81% effieciency, thats because kicks to the wide open spaces of the MCG (read kicking to NO ONE) don't get picked up as being inefficient

   
Title: Re: Changes for the St Kilda game next week?
Post by: jackstar is back again on August 15, 2010, 04:19:55 PM
Connors just has to be offered as trade in trade week.
has no endurance either
Title: Re: Changes for the St Kilda game next week?
Post by: 1965 on August 15, 2010, 04:38:33 PM
Connors just has to be offered as trade in trade week.
has no endurance either

WP, Jack

I missed the game yesterday.

Why did the Age , The H-S and the Richmond site all put Conners into the best one or two for Richmond?

'65
Title: Re: Changes for the St Kilda game next week?
Post by: Penelope on August 15, 2010, 04:44:34 PM
Because they have no idea '65, or perhaps that is an indictment on how bad they all played. I'm starting to see what WP has been saying about him...and the turnovers? Eff me. For all the poo that get's put on Tuck I have never seen him turn over the ball  from kicks when he is not actually being tackled , as often as I saw from Connors yesterday. His disposal was atrocious.
Title: Re: Changes for the St Kilda game next week?
Post by: WilliamPowell on August 15, 2010, 04:45:18 PM
WP, Jack

I missed the game yesterday.

Why did the Age , The H-S and the Richmond site all put Conners into the best one or two for Richmond?

'65

IMHO '65 simply because he had 26 possessions (BTW of which 21 were uncontested).
Title: Re: Changes for the St Kilda game next week?
Post by: 1965 on August 15, 2010, 04:54:41 PM
WP, Jack

I missed the game yesterday.

Why did the Age , The H-S and the Richmond site all put Conners into the best one or two for Richmond?

'65

IMHO '65 simply because he had 26 possessions (BTW of which 21 were uncontested).

Isn't the potential there?

Imagine how good he could become.

We were rewarded when we took a chance on Cuz.

 :thumbsup
Title: Re: Changes for the St Kilda game next week?
Post by: WilliamPowell on August 15, 2010, 04:58:14 PM
IMHO '65 simply because he had 26 possessions (BTW of which 21 were uncontested).

Isn't the potential there?

Imagine how good he could become.

We were rewarded when we took a chance on Cuz.

 :thumbsup

You are not comparing apples with apples

You are comparing an apple (in this case Cuz) with a walnut (Connors)

The ability is not the issue it is continued unwillingness to put the team first.
Title: Re: Changes for the St Kilda game next week?
Post by: big tone on August 15, 2010, 05:12:54 PM
Another one for me is Astbury.
Has done very little to show me he is our future. Does ok sometimes but on a whole just has not got that "something" you see in a young player that says, yes this kid MIGHT be ok.
I know he is a first year tall but sometimes you see that "something" in a kid very early on in there career.
Not me yet.....






when he kicked 3 - wasnt that a decent showing?
Got to be honest, i don't remember, it was a while ago!
Do you see something in him i don't? And forget about how old he is for a minute, and just think about your answer on football merrit only.
Don't get me wrong, i don't want him delisted, but just have not seen anything to be happy with yet.
Title: Re: Changes for the St Kilda game next week?
Post by: tiger till i die on August 15, 2010, 05:19:54 PM
we wanna play kids who we want to be in our team for the years to come so that the ycan learn from saint kilda eg connors, dusty, lids, cotch,taylor, hicks ect ect.

Tho it was funny to see lids wip the face of teh blues player .. should he be alowed to play if he behaves like that? and if he wants to be our captain in later year that is no example !! funny tho :p
Title: Re: Changes for the St Kilda game next week?
Post by: tony_montana on August 15, 2010, 06:24:56 PM
pee moore off and play rance, astbury and the goo as our tall defenders. Moore was simply terrible today. Connors out cotchin in.

assberry was poo too

so what, play the kids and eff off has beens or never will be's like moore, mcguane and co who've had their chances over years

no,we need to play the kids obviously.

I'm drawing attention to the fact he was outclassed by carlton hacks,wasn't accountable and looked johnsonesque at times in the way he got out of hard ball contests.

Moore is frustrating as when he's bad,he's horrid.
McGuane is expendable.
Thursfield -well,i would have rather kept Schulz.

yeah fair enough, he didn't look good yesterday that's for sure, but would rather get games into these young guys asap to see if they have what it takes. IMO he's shown some good signs this season. Bit slow but good footy brain and reads the game well
Title: Re: Changes for the St Kilda game next week?
Post by: Judge Roughneck on August 15, 2010, 08:29:05 PM
polak was rubbish for coburg

I know who WP will want out  ;D.

After today's "effort" you feel like replacing 18 players  :scream

Well at least you've answered one of my questions regarding Cotch

Seroulsy I reckon there is probably only 6-8 who deserve a game next week the rest should be sent North Sunshine  ;D

INS: Cotchin, Rance, Taylor, Polak (struth if we are gifting games to Post why not  ;D), Polo  ;D

OUTS: Connors (continues to play selfish selfish footy  :banghead :banghead and the club continues to condone it and the media get seduced by the number of kicks he gets  :banghead :banghead),
          Nason (he needs a rest),
          Graham (needs a rest looked disinterested)
          Hicks
          White (inj)

REALLY LUCKY BLOKES:

Post: gotta get that trade value up somehow so he stays
O'Reilly: struggled with the pace of the game but I like Jimmy
Moore: flaps his arms a lot telling people what to do pit he doesn't follow his own advice
Collins: first game back after injury so he's sort of excused
Jackson: the stats say 81% effieciency, thats because kicks to the wide open spaces of the MCG (read kicking to NO ONE) don't get picked up as being inefficient

   
Title: Re: Changes for the St Kilda game next week?
Post by: MADTIGER2010 on August 15, 2010, 09:30:37 PM
Another one for me is Astbury.
Has done very little to show me he is our future. Does ok sometimes but on a whole just has not got that "something" you see in a young player that says, yes this kid MIGHT be ok.
I know he is a first year tall but sometimes you see that "something" in a kid very early on in there career.
Not me yet.....






if you don't even think this kid could be ok, then you really should give up now  8)
Title: Re: Changes for the St Kilda game next week?
Post by: Francois Jackson on August 15, 2010, 09:36:28 PM
Another one for me is Astbury.
Has done very little to show me he is our future. Does ok sometimes but on a whole just has not got that "something" you see in a young player that says, yes this kid MIGHT be ok.
I know he is a first year tall but sometimes you see that "something" in a kid very early on in there career.
Not me yet.....






sorry BT dont agree with you there. Astbury goes allright and will be fine. Need to hold him.

we have plenty more that need to go before him.

Title: Re: Changes for the St Kilda game next week?
Post by: MADTIGER2010 on August 15, 2010, 09:59:56 PM
Another one for me is Astbury.
Has done very little to show me he is our future. Does ok sometimes but on a whole just has not got that "something" you see in a young player that says, yes this kid MIGHT be ok.
I know he is a first year tall but sometimes you see that "something" in a kid very early on in there career.
Not me yet.....



sorry BT dont agree with you there. Astbury goes allright and will be fine. Need to hold him.

we have plenty more that need to go before him.


why would anyone need to even bring up this? Only a richmond supporter could complain about astbury
Title: Re: Changes for the St Kilda game next week?
Post by: the claw on August 15, 2010, 10:23:06 PM
i think bt is right in one sense.

astbury has done little  but for a first yr tall we should not expect to much.

if we were not such a rabble kids like astbury would spend his first two yrs at coburg learning the caper with just the odd  game to give him an idea of whats expected.

i have to say our younger blokes are not the problem and that includes weather or not they prove to be good enough in the long term.

its the plethora of glass half fulls and lack of well rounded footballers who are mature that will see us mired in mediocrity for yrs to come if we do not weed  them out.

cuz deledio foley and perhaps newman are the only players over 22 who you would keep for certain and cuz is 32.

we are littered with mature glass half fulls who are supposed to be the leaders at the club. graham  jackson king mcguane mcmahon moore  morton polak polo simmonds tambling thomson thursfield  tuck white bloody hell most of them are regulars and most of them are duds.

and this is just a list of the so called seniors. there is a  percentage of players 22 and under who at this stage you could easily place in the same category.
Title: Re: Changes for the St Kilda game next week?
Post by: Judge Roughneck on August 16, 2010, 09:46:25 PM

claw -

next season our oldest players will be;

Tuck
Newman
Moore
King

Foley [2003]
Thursfield [2004 draft]
Jackson

i think bt is right in one sense.

astbury has done little  but for a first yr tall we should not expect to much.

if we were not such a rabble kids like astbury would spend his first two yrs at coburg learning the caper with just the odd  game to give him an idea of whats expected.

i have to say our younger blokes are not the problem and that includes weather or not they prove to be good enough in the long term.

its the plethora of glass half fulls and lack of well rounded footballers who are mature that will see us mired in mediocrity for yrs to come if we do not weed  them out.

cuz deledio foley and perhaps newman are the only players over 22 who you would keep for certain and cuz is 32.

we are littered with mature glass half fulls who are supposed to be the leaders at the club. graham  jackson king mcguane mcmahon moore  morton polak polo simmonds tambling thomson thursfield  tuck white bloody hell most of them are regulars and most of them are duds.

and this is just a list of the so called seniors. there is a  percentage of players 22 and under who at this stage you could easily place in the same category.

b
Title: Re: Changes for the St Kilda game next week?
Post by: eliminator on August 17, 2010, 07:19:16 AM
We had a very inexperienced defence on Saturday with exception of Newman and Moore and it showed. Moore and Newman can't do it alone. THey need good support. Good draft picks and patience is required. Hopefully I am totally wrong but I think it is going to take seasons rather than a season to see drastic improvement in the club.
Title: Re: Changes for the St Kilda game next week?
Post by: Beren on August 17, 2010, 01:02:02 PM




REALLY LUCKY BLOKES:


Jackson: the stats say 81% effieciency, thats because kicks to the wide open spaces of the MCG (read kicking to NO ONE) don't get picked up as being inefficient

   
Gee that's a bit harsh. Not easy to kick to a teammate when there's no one where they should be.... to receive. ::)
Also it was pretty obvious from about midway through the second quarter that Jacko wasn't able to run at his peak due to some form of injury.
Title: Re: Changes for the St Kilda game next week?
Post by: WilliamPowell on August 17, 2010, 01:46:09 PM
REALLY LUCKY BLOKES:

Jackson: the stats say 81% effieciency, thats because kicks to the wide open spaces of the MCG (read kicking to NO ONE) don't get picked up as being inefficient
  
Gee that's a bit harsh. Not easy to kick to a teammate when there's no one where they should be.... to receive. ::)
Also it was pretty obvious from about midway through the second quarter that Jacko wasn't able to run at his peak due to some form of injury.

Not harsh just calling it the way I saw it and for mine he was very disappointing on the weekend.

As for no-one being where they should be to receive his errant kicks? Why did he kick to no-one when blokes had spread to the opposite side for him?  

Regarding possibly being injured, running wasn't the problem  ;D And I think there was a bloke in number 32 who had a pretty good excuse to drop off in the quality of his disposal but he compensated  ;D



Title: Re: Changes for the St Kilda game next week?
Post by: pmac21 on August 17, 2010, 02:16:21 PM
In: Rance, Cotchin, McGuane, Webberley
Out: White, Nason, King, Hicks
All of a sudden side looks a lot better without King & White in it !!
Title: Re: Changes for the St Kilda game next week?
Post by: Chuck17 on August 17, 2010, 03:16:43 PM
In: Rance, Cotchin, McGuane, Webberley
Out: White, Nason, King, Hicks
All of a sudden side looks a lot better without King & White in it !!

Or in otherwords

In; Toughness
Out; Midgets
Title: Re: Changes for the St Kilda game next week?
Post by: one-eyed on August 17, 2010, 06:49:15 PM
RICHMOND - In the mix

Trent Cotchin is back in this week after serving his stuff suspension, and Matt White, who injured a calf 10 minutes into the weekend's game, is expected to be okay to play. Will Thursfield kicked a goal at Coburg, so could get a game forward, while another being considered is Troy Taylor - with only two matches left in the season, time is running out to see how he goes.

http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/100586/default.aspx
Title: Re: Changes for the St Kilda game next week?
Post by: torch on August 17, 2010, 07:09:26 PM
In: Cotchin, Thursfield, McGuane, Taylor

Out: King, Moore, Edwards, Tuck