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Title: Rate a Tiger's year - 35. Matthew White?
Post by: one-eyed on September 05, 2010, 02:55:29 AM
How did we all rate Matty White's season?



          Games   Disposals  Marks  Tackles   G.B     In50    Re50     1%ers   Errors
2006:    11          11.0       3.8       2.7       2.2
2007:      7           8.6        3.7       2.1      1.0
2008:    20          13.4       4.3       3.2     11.7      2.5       1.2       4.4      4.9
2009:    16          14.7       2.9       3.9      7.4       2.8       0.9       4.6      1.1
2010:    16          11.4       3.4       3.6     11.9      3.1       0.3       4.7       -

http://finalsiren.com/PlayerStats.asp?PlayerID=1739&SeasonID=ALL
http://www.pro-stats.com.au/psw/web/player_profile?pid=2006148
Title: Re: Rate a Tiger's year - 35. Matthew White?
Post by: mat073 on September 05, 2010, 04:36:16 AM
I think Matthew White proved many people wrong this year (including myself).

My guess is that he will start 2011 as part of our best 22.

You always wonder though.....would Matt get a game at another club ?
Title: Re: Rate a Tiger's year - 35. Matthew White?
Post by: Penelope on September 05, 2010, 07:01:39 AM
showed a bit of improvement this year, but still has a way to go. His pace and ability to keep his feet in the contest means that he hardly ever loses one on ones for the ball which is a valuable commodity. Showed that he can be creative with the ball but still some of his disposal is cringe-worthy, particularly set shots for goal.

Has shown enough improvement and upside to persevere with but needs to continue to improve and become a bit more consistent. If he goes backwards next year for whatever reason it will probably be his last. I reckon the club would take an appropriate trade for him but I doubt he would be shopped around in an effort just to be rid of him.

Title: Re: Rate a Tiger's year - 35. Matthew White?
Post by: Smokey on September 05, 2010, 07:32:54 AM
Showed some improvement under Hardwick which is a good sign but I think he will only ever be a good squad player and isn't in our best 22.  Having said that, no team can sustain a premiership-winning season without their Matt Whites so I wouldn't be ditching him just yet, he deserves at least one more year to see if there is any further improvement in him.
Title: Re: Rate a Tiger's year - 35. Matthew White?
Post by: WilliamPowell on September 05, 2010, 05:47:08 PM
I thought he showed marked improvement in 2010

think he is easily in our best 22

He and Kingy have the small forwards role (especially the F50 defensive pressure) down pat

However, would love to see him spend more time in the mid-field - just think it is worth considering

NB: I've always been a Matty White fan

 :gotigers
Title: Re: Rate a Tiger's year - 35. Matthew White?
Post by: Ramps on September 05, 2010, 08:30:22 PM
Showed some improvement under Hardwick which is a good sign but I think he will only ever be a good squad player and isn't in our best 22.  Having said that, no team can sustain a premiership-winning season without their Matt Whites so I wouldn't be ditching him just yet, he deserves at least one more year to see if there is any further improvement in him.

agree with smoke 100%
Title: Re: Rate a Tiger's year - 35. Matthew White?
Post by: jackstar is back again on September 05, 2010, 09:11:17 PM
Fair year but too inconsistent for mine.
His bad games are real bad, and his good games are real good.
Really needs consistency in his game
Title: Re: Rate a Tiger's year - 35. Matthew White?
Post by: WilliamPowell on September 05, 2010, 09:19:29 PM
His bad games are real bad, and his good games are real good.

Then he is definitely on "par" with so many other players in the comp then isn't he  :thumbsup
Title: Re: Rate a Tiger's year - 35. Matthew White?
Post by: jackstar is back again on September 05, 2010, 09:25:05 PM
His bad games are real bad, and his good games are real good.

Then he is definitely on "par" with so many other players in the comp then isn't he  :thumbsup

His bad games he has little impact on game.
Would struggle to get a game at another club as a previous poster has queried
I like Matty White though :thumbsup
Title: Re: Rate a Tiger's year - 35. Matthew White?
Post by: Gigantor on September 05, 2010, 10:31:06 PM
jack dont you think to where matty was this time last year he has really come on.....yes i agree he needs consistency ,hopefully that willcome with maturity and experience
Title: Re: Rate a Tiger's year - 35. Matthew White?
Post by: Francois Jackson on September 06, 2010, 12:11:37 AM
need Matty White in case Foley doesnt come up which by the sounds of things doesn't look good at all. Hopefully he gets it right.

according to Foley "he was not even close to playing this year at all"

Title: Re: Rate a Tiger's year - 35. Matthew White?
Post by: mightytiges on September 06, 2010, 10:17:25 PM
For me Whitey's inconsistency can partly be explained because he is a finisher in the side rather than a nuts and bolts rack disposals up ballwinner. His best efforts this year have mostly coincided with our better competitive games and wins as a team. When the side is up and about then finishers like Whitey come more into the game; whereas when a team is struggling and their main ballwinners aren't getting their hands on the pill then the finishers become virtual spectators. Whitey still has other flaws such as his inconsistent disposal but I'd reckon as we become a stronger and more consistent side then the likes of Whitey should also become more consistent.
Title: Re: Rate a Tiger's year - 35. Matthew White?
Post by: yellowandback on September 06, 2010, 10:24:06 PM
Good player in an ordinary side and an ordinary player in a good side. Depth player if we get ourselves into the top 4 - at best.
Title: Re: Rate a Tiger's year - 35. Matthew White?
Post by: Willy on September 07, 2010, 12:50:00 AM
need Matty White in case Foley doesnt come up which by the sounds of things doesn't look good at all. Hopefully he gets it right.

according to Foley "he was not even close to playing this year at all"



what do you mean mate?
Axel played a few games this season.
Do u mean that he wasn't even close to playing at the end of the year?
Title: Re: Rate a Tiger's year - 35. Matthew White?
Post by: WilliamPowell on September 07, 2010, 06:59:22 AM
need Matty White in case Foley doesnt come up which by the sounds of things doesn't look good at all. Hopefully he gets it right.

according to Foley "he was not even close to playing this year at all"



what do you mean mate?
Axel played a few games this season.
Do u mean that he wasn't even close to playing at the end of the year?

I think he means;

1/ He shouldn't have played at all this year - why they played him in stose couple of games beggars belief
2/ Therefore, he wasnt even close to playing for the entire season
Title: Re: Rate a Tiger's year - 35. Matthew White?
Post by: Rodgerramjet on September 07, 2010, 09:14:10 AM
I gave him a 7 hopefully the consistency comes next year, I agree with Jackstars comments on Whitey
Title: Re: Rate a Tiger's year - 35. Matthew White?
Post by: tony_montana on September 07, 2010, 11:41:11 AM
Been his best season to date, I can recall off the top of my head about 5 or 6 games where he had an impact/influence on the game with his ability to stay strong in the contest and use his breakaway pace. Needs to keep improving
Title: Re: Rate a Tiger's year - 35. Matthew White?
Post by: Dice on September 07, 2010, 04:11:34 PM
White had a reasonably good season. Certainly his best. Was important at times and really became the number one hit up man for Lids coming out of defense. Used his pace well to get out wide and mark those kicks coming out of D50.
 Currently in our best 22 IMO
Title: Re: Rate a Tiger's year - 35. Matthew White?
Post by: eliminator on September 07, 2010, 06:09:36 PM
Agree that he showed improvement under Hardwick in second half of the year. Keep him on another year if he does not continue to improve delist him. Agree his pace and ability to keep his feet are definitely good qualities. Agree his disposal is not flash at times. Wish he could take more contested marks. Agree that when the side plays well he does. Agree that he is dependant on the ball winners having a good game.
Title: Re: Rate a Tiger's year - 35. Matthew White?
Post by: Mr Magic on September 07, 2010, 07:33:31 PM
Has good pace but a cameo footballer in the scheme of things.
5/10 for me & trade if possible.
Title: Re: Rate a Tiger's year - 35. Matthew White?
Post by: Ekto on September 07, 2010, 07:54:17 PM
At the start of the season everyone on every Richmond website said he was gone.

Those supporters who supported Whitey even had their doubts.

But once he got back in the side he has showed us all that his hard work is starting to pay off.

Whitey's marking, contested footy, holding his feet, hard tackling, accurate delivery into the forward 50, his quick hands, his body strength and his decision making have all improved markedly (and needed to) and are complimenting the main reason the Tigers drafted him.......pace and determination.

That goal he kicked in round 22 when he chased the contested footy, bumped off the oppo player, gathered the footy and then belted the ball through the goal from the 50m line, right on the boundary line, shows us what he can do.....and will continue to do over the rest of his career as a Tiger.

In my mind Whitey is a required player at Tigerland and he will reward all Tiger fans over the coming years with some really good football in an increasingly successful Richmond Football Team....which we all want to see.....AGAIN. :gotigers
Title: Re: Rate a Tiger's year - 35. Matthew White?
Post by: jackstar is back again on September 07, 2010, 08:02:26 PM
At the start of the season everyone on every Richmond website said he was gone.

Those supporters who supported Whitey even had their doubts.

But once he got back in the side he has showed us all that his hard work is starting to pay off.

Whitey's marking, contested footy, holding his feet, hard tackling, accurate delivery into the forward 50, his quick hands, his body strength and his decision making have all improved markedly (and needed to) and are complimenting the main reason the Tigers drafted him.......pace and determination.

That goal he kicked in round 22 when he chased the contested footy, bumped off the oppo player, gathered the footy and then belted the ball through the goal from the 50m line, right on the boundary line, shows us what he can do.....and will continue to do over the rest of his career as a Tiger.

In my mind Whitey is a required player at Tigerland and he will reward all Tiger fans over the coming years with some really good football in an increasingly successful Richmond Football Team....which we all want to see.....AGAIN. :gotigers

You must be M.Whites brother or a related family member, lol
Your not his Mum are you ???
Title: Re: Rate a Tiger's year - 35. Matthew White?
Post by: bojangles17 on September 07, 2010, 08:09:50 PM
whitey improved a heap in 2010, what did he kick, 30 odd goals...certainly made his mark and had a few people talking about his inclusion in the side rather than exclusion, people might be suprised just how highly rated he is in wider footy circles, believe you me
Title: Re: Rate a Tiger's year - 35. Matthew White?
Post by: Smokey on September 07, 2010, 09:51:05 PM
whitey improved a heap in 2010, what did he kick, 30 odd goals...certainly made his mark and had a few people talking about his inclusion in the side rather than exclusion, people might be suprised just how highly rated he is in wider footy circles, believe you me

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Title: Re: Rate a Tiger's year - 35. Matthew White?
Post by: bojangles17 on September 07, 2010, 10:04:08 PM
whitey improved a heap in 2010, what did he kick, 30 odd goals...certainly made his mark and had a few people talking about his inclusion in the side rather than exclusion, people might be suprised just how highly rated he is in wider footy circles, believe you me

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well he probably only played a dozen games or so ::)
Title: Re: Rate a Tiger's year - 35. Matthew White?
Post by: Mr Magic on September 07, 2010, 10:19:06 PM
whitey improved a heap in 2010, what did he kick, 30 odd goals...certainly made his mark and had a few people talking about his inclusion in the side rather than exclusion, people might be suprised just how highly rated he is in wider footy circles, believe you me

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well he probably only played a dozen games or so ::)

16 actually and averages 11 touches pg.
How highly rated do you think he is with numbers like that?


IMO Whitey is an honest footsoldier who follows the gameplan well but he's a pretty ordinary footballer.
Title: Re: Rate a Tiger's year - 35. Matthew White?
Post by: jackstar is back again on September 08, 2010, 06:40:28 AM
whitey improved a heap in 2010, what did he kick, 30 odd goals...certainly made his mark and had a few people talking about his inclusion in the side rather than exclusion, people might be suprised just how highly rated he is in wider footy circles, believe you me

11

well he probably only played a dozen games or so ::)

16 actually and averages 11 touches pg.
How highly rated do you think he is with numbers like that?


IMO Whitey is an honest footsoldier who follows the gameplan well but he's a pretty ordinary footballer.
Correct
Title: Re: Rate a Tiger's year - 35. Matthew White?
Post by: gerkin greg on September 08, 2010, 10:38:26 AM
The wingnut appears to have stopped running himself into trouble as much and stopped trying to take on 3 tacklers every time he gets the ball ala Andrew Raines, but still doesn't get enough of the pill and struggles to put four quarters together. Has his tricks but also has his limitations such as awareness and disposal, depth player, good clubman, should improve further under Hardwick but can't seeing him ever being top ten in the B&F. 6/10
Title: Re: Rate a Tiger's year - 35. Matthew White?
Post by: Tigermad20011 on September 11, 2010, 11:21:16 PM
Should be looking to move him on as we can do better.