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Title: Will Hird Make it as a coach? Mongrels v Poodles
Post by: tiga on September 30, 2010, 04:41:23 PM
In my opinion, James Hird will not make it as a coach and will probably end up like Voss. A Very popular, talented footballer with next to no coaching experience who will find the transition from playing to coaching very difficult. There's no doubt that as players they both knew how to back themselves by winning games with their own sheer talent, but getting this across to the players as a coach and making it work is a whole different kettle of fish.
As a rule its the tough hard mongrels are the ones who make good coaches, not the purebred poodles Like Hird and Voss who win best of show every week.

There are some exceptions like Neil Balme who was a tough mongrel on the field but a pretty ordinary coach and Malcolm Blight who was an obvious poodle who had some good success as a coach. But if you look at my list below, you will see that many good coaches were hard nut mongrels as players.

Discuss...

Mongrels
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Matthews
Thompson
Hardwick
Harvey
Worsfold
Malthouse
Roos
Jeans
Hafey
Eade
Sheedy

Poodles
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Walls
Wallace
Bartlett
Knights (Matthew & Peter)
Jesaulenko
Buckenara
Voss
and now Hird
Title: Re: Will Hird Make it as a coach? Mongrels v Poodles
Post by: jackstar is back again on September 30, 2010, 07:18:48 PM
will end up the same as Tim Watson did
Title: Re: Will Hird Make it as a coach? Mongrels v Poodles
Post by: Francois Jackson on September 30, 2010, 07:26:42 PM
Yeah i have no opinion until i see the full line up of his coaching staff. If it includes one of Choco or Bomber i would think Hird has passed his first test.

Unlike most of you i actually dont think they have that bad a list. I just think Knighter couldnt coach.

That being said it would be so funny if Hird didnt cut it as a coach and got the sack.

Title: Re: Will Hird Make it as a coach? Mongrels v Poodles
Post by: mightytiges on September 30, 2010, 09:26:37 PM
LOL @ poodles tiga  :lol. What category did Spud and Geischen fall into tiga? Donkeys?  ;D

It's going to really interesting in 2012 when the honeymoon is over and Bomber supporters start turning on their supposed "messiah" :yep.
Title: Re: Will Hird Make it as a coach? Mongrels v Poodles
Post by: Rodgerramjet on September 30, 2010, 10:13:37 PM
I hope your all correct, but I think it's a little bit lets wait and see.
Title: Re: Will Hird Make it as a coach? Mongrels v Poodles
Post by: mightytiges on September 30, 2010, 10:29:41 PM
Their deluded Board and coterie groups are the problem (sounds familiar). The Board was talking about a top 4 finish this year :wallywink
Title: Re: Will Hird Make it as a coach? Mongrels v Poodles
Post by: tiga on September 30, 2010, 10:41:35 PM
LOL @ poodles tiga  :lol. What category did Spud and Geischen fall into tiga? Donkeys?  ;D

It's going to really interesting in 2012 when the honeymoon is over and Bomber supporters start turning on their supposed "messiah" :yep.


MT, Donkey's is a pretty accurate description but in keeping with the Canine theme, I would classify Spud & Geisch as Irish Setters.....Dumbest dogs ever bred.  :lol
Title: Re: Will Hird Make it as a coach? Mongrels v Poodles
Post by: mightytiges on September 30, 2010, 11:06:13 PM
LOL @ poodles tiga  :lol. What category did Spud and Geischen fall into tiga? Donkeys?  ;D

It's going to really interesting in 2012 when the honeymoon is over and Bomber supporters start turning on their supposed "messiah" :yep.


MT, Donkey's is a pretty accurate description but in keeping with the Canine theme, I would classify Spud & Geisch as Irish Setters.....Dumbest dogs ever bred.  :lol
:lol

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/2e/Can_Setter_dog_GFDL.jpg/220px-Can_Setter_dog_GFDL.jpg)
"Yes Hudson and Houlihan will take us to a flag"  :stupid
Title: Re: Will Hird Make it as a coach? Mongrels v Poodles
Post by: Ox on October 06, 2010, 01:21:24 AM
I'll say no he wont make it,i mean,how perfect can a turd be?
Title: Re: Will Hird Make it as a coach? Mongrels v Poodles
Post by: cub on October 12, 2010, 10:41:34 AM

MT, Donkey's is a pretty accurate description but in keeping with the Canine theme, I would classify Spud & Geisch as Irish Setters.....Dumbest dogs ever bred.  :lol
:lol

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/2e/Can_Setter_dog_GFDL.jpg/220px-Can_Setter_dog_GFDL.jpg)
"Yes Hudson and Houlihan will take us to a flag"  :stupid

LOL - Loved our irish setter, but yeah it was a dumb rs
Title: Re: Will Hird Make it as a coach? Mongrels v Poodles
Post by: Ramps on October 12, 2010, 10:46:00 AM
hird will fail but he will go back to gemba. this coaching circus will be over for hird in 3 years.
Title: Re: Will Hird Make it as a coach? Mongrels v Poodles
Post by: mightytiges on October 12, 2010, 11:35:43 PM
hird will fail but he will go back to gemba. this coaching circus will be over for hird in 3 years.
Not altering a bottom 3 list and using just 2 live picks in the draft isn't a good start for Jimmy :nup.
Title: Re: Will Hird Make it as a coach? Mongrels v Poodles
Post by: tiger101 on October 13, 2010, 12:14:29 AM
hird will fail but he will go back to gemba. this coaching circus will be over for hird in 3 years.
Not altering a bottom 3 list and using just 2 live picks in the draft isn't a good start for Jimmy :nup.

Or it could be a move that saves him alot of pain in 2012. Keeping the same list in 2011 showing the bombers fans how many spuds they really truely have on there list.
Bring in alot of new blood for 2012 and fans will just eat up the thier young and inconsistent line for a year. Which will bring him to 2013 when he will have to start putting a couple of wins on the board.
Title: Re: Will Hird Make it as a coach? Mongrels v Poodles
Post by: tiga on October 13, 2010, 11:28:09 AM
hird will fail but he will go back to gemba. this coaching circus will be over for hird in 3 years.
Not altering a bottom 3 list and using just 2 live picks in the draft isn't a good start for Jimmy :nup.
Maybe He's going for consistency.  :lol
Title: Re: Will Hird Make it as a coach? Mongrels v Poodles
Post by: wayne on October 14, 2010, 10:40:20 AM
Or it could be a move that saves him alot of pain in 2012. Keeping the same list in 2011 showing the bombers fans how many spuds they really truely have on there list.
Bring in alot of new blood for 2012 and fans will just eat up the thier young and inconsistent line for a year. Which will bring him to 2013 when he will have to start putting a couple of wins on the board.

Still not a good time to do it though, GWS will pillage the draft and there will be GWS compo picks (what if they get 12-16 uncontracted players?) along with anyone that wants to use a GC Suns compo pick in the same draft!  :o

Good times could be ahead for Essendon haters.  ;D