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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: mightytiges on October 20, 2010, 05:40:15 PM
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Did I hear that right?
Scott Lucas on now with Francis Leech and he suggested Brad Fisher would be a good player for a club like Richmond to pick up to add experience.
Yep as if we need more VFL standard players ::). You've been listening to too many Essendon recruiters Scotty :stupid :wallywink
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he cant kick
overrated
stay away
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he cant kick
overrated
stay away
That pretty much sums it up :yep
Just another fringe player who use to have a day out at our expense :scream
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he cant kick
overrated
stay away
That pretty much sums it up :yep
Just another fringe player who use to have a day out at our expense :scream
and on top of that he is damaged goods, no one really knows if his knee will hold up
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He was a forward in a team that had one then no forwards, and he couldn't get a game.
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i actually agree with Scott Lucas
Fisher can play, was highly rates by oppoosition clubs a few years ago
he has the "'best hands"' in the league.-he is a fantastic one grab mark
You never lose your ability, just your confidence.
Would pick him up in National Draft without hestiation
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Andy Collins has been labelled to replace Fisher in Carlotta's forward line.
I think that says it all.
Pass.
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i actually agree with Scott Lucas
Fisher can play, was highly rates by oppoosition clubs a few years ago
he has the "'best hands"' in the league.-he is a fantastic one grab mark
You never lose your ability, just your confidence.
Would pick him up in National Draft without hestiation
Same could go for your fav player Jay Schulz. :shh
Don't need Fisher. We have Brad Miller anyway ;D
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i actually agree with Scott Lucas
Fisher can play, was highly rates by oppoosition clubs a few years ago
he has the "'best hands"' in the league.-he is a fantastic one grab mark
You never lose your ability, just your confidence.
Would pick him up in National Draft without hestiation
Who are you and what have you done with the real jackstar
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LOL Danog :lol
i actually agree with Scott Lucas
Fisher can play, was highly rates by oppoosition clubs a few years ago
he has the "'best hands"' in the league.-he is a fantastic one grab mark
You never lose your ability, just your confidence.
Would pick him up in National Draft without hestiation
One good year and another semi-decent after 8 years in the system and just 8 games in the past 2 injury-prone years isn't the type of player we need to waste a pick on. Fisher averages just 1 tackle per game over his whole career so he's hardly going to provide the defensive pressure forwards need to have now days either.
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can tell you that Brad is highly regarded
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can tell you that Brad is highly regarded
Not by Carlton anymore obviously ;)
Hard to see any club recruiting him as a injury-prone 27-year-old for 2011. Well except for Voss :D.
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lets see what happens.
The bloke could play,great hands
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JON had great hands. Too bad he sucked at everything else in footy.
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sign him up :lol
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i actually agree with Scott Lucas
Fisher can play, was highly rates by oppoosition clubs a few years ago
he has the "'best hands"' in the league.-he is a fantastic one grab mark
You never lose your ability, just your confidence.
Would pick him up in National Draft without hestiation
You worry me sometimes Jack, Often I think to myself, is Jack really a Richmond supporter or an Essendon supporter.
Lucas is baiting us, do you think Lucas is really interested in us doing well, the answer to that is an absolute NO. Fisher should be drafted by Essendon if they think that highly of him.
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lets see what happens.
The bloke could play,great hands
and you have the arrogance to say that others know nothing about football. ::)
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I would Rookie him with Miller and bugger off Hislop.
At least our VFL forward line would look great!
Rookie Fisher at best.
If his knee can hold up for one season, he could have 30 matches for 60-70 goals.
???
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Injury has ruined his career and he can't kick.
If we were to take a punt on a player affected by injury in the hope they came good then I'd rather look at Muston who is still very young and was meant to be as good as Lids
Don't think we should take either though
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lets see what happens.
The bloke could play,great hands
wake up jackstar
wgaf what his hands can do
he has a sus knee and cant effing kick
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most of you posters amaze me.
You bag me, when the club has picked up players who couldnt play over the past few years. eg McMahon, Hislop, Thomson etc :banghead :banghead :banghead
At least Fisher can play, yes injury has ruined his career over the past 2 years.
A change of clubs would do him good.
My past involvement recall when we played Carlton, he was exteremely hard to match up on,as he could easily outmark most of our players when isolated.
He would be a risk, but if fit, a good risk as he can play. Hislop and Thomson couldnt play, as for McMahon ::)
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and yes X , i am awake, been up since 5.30. just run 10k, i think you should do the same son !
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DOn't want Fisher but I can see a lot of re-cycled players beng picked up this year late in the draft because of it being a compromised
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DOn't want Fisher but I can see a lot of re-cycled players beng picked up this year late in the draft because of it being a compromised
Correct !
he doesnt fit our long term plans I wouldnt think
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Fisher was delisted from Carlton because he reinjuried his knee again after the LARS surgery failed. He now has a history of knee reco's which is unlikely to improve.
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Noooooooooooo!
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he has the "'best hands"' in the league
There's a bloke called Jack Riewoldt who might argue that point with you mate
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would rather scotty cummings
fisher is a stuffing dud of the highest order
best hands in the league? what league? he's unemployed ;)
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best hands in the league? what league? he's unemployed ;)
:lol
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most of you posters amaze me.
You bag me, when the club has picked up players who couldnt play over the past few years. eg McMahon, Hislop, Thomson etc :banghead :banghead :banghead
At least Fisher can play, yes injury has ruined his career over the past 2 years.
A change of clubs would do him good.
My past involvement recall when we played Carlton, he was exteremely hard to match up on,as he could easily outmark most of our players when isolated.
He would be a risk, but if fit, a good risk as he can play. Hislop and Thomson couldnt play, as for McMahon ::)
you are correct about his hands and how difficult he was to match up on, perfect 3rd tall that was a great foil BUT
has never been able to kick, and hurt you on the scoreboard, injury has now ruined him, hes expired - wont get picked up.
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and yes X , i am awake, been up since 5.30. just run 10k, i think you should do the same son !
What time did you pull Jack ?.......Did you break the hour ?
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and yes X , i am awake, been up since 5.30. just run 10k, i think you should do the same son !
why would i wanna run 10km when i have no cartilage in my knees and i could go fishing instead
can think of a million better ways to exercise than running 10km
ps jump on a bike is quicker and not as taxing on ur knees
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greg denham knows his stuff
kb asked him today "will anyone pick up fisher?"
denham replied "no!"
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ps jump on a bike is quicker and not as taxing on ur knees
Absolutely agree :thumbsup
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I jumped on my bike a couple of years back because it was too hard to pedal up hills.
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and yes X , i am awake, been up since 5.30. just run 10k, i think you should do the same son !
What time did you pull Jack ?.......Did you break the hour ?
56.35
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most of you posters amaze me.
You bag me, when the club has picked up players who couldnt play over the past few years. eg McMahon, Hislop, Thomson etc :banghead :banghead :banghead
At least Fisher can play, yes injury has ruined his career over the past 2 years.
A change of clubs would do him good.
My past involvement recall when we played Carlton, he was exteremely hard to match up on,as he could easily outmark most of our players when isolated.
He would be a risk, but if fit, a good risk as he can play. Hislop and Thomson couldnt play, as for McMahon ::)
you are correct about his hands and how difficult he was to match up on, perfect 3rd tall that was a great foil BUT
has never been able to kick, and hurt you on the scoreboard, injury has now ruined him, hes expired - wont get picked up.
Totally agree,although he might get picked up
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most of you posters amaze me.
You bag me, when the club has picked up players who couldnt play over the past few years. eg McMahon, Hislop, Thomson etc :banghead :banghead :banghead
At least Fisher can play, yes injury has ruined his career over the past 2 years.
A change of clubs would do him good.
My past involvement recall when we played Carlton, he was exteremely hard to match up on,as he could easily outmark most of our players when isolated.
He would be a risk, but if fit, a good risk as he can play. Hislop and Thomson couldnt play, as for McMahon ::)
I didn't bag you over us picking up those 3 duds especially Thomson who I probably bored everyone to death here saying he couldn't kick before we even traded for him.
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...................... who I probably bored everyone to death here saying he couldn't kick before we even traded for him.
You don't bore us to death MT.
And btw, I don't think tanking is the right strategy.
:P ;D ;D
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Nothing wrong with running if you do it right, wont hurt your knees at all, weak excuse. I have done both my knees in motor bike accidents and I run anywhere up to 24km in a hit. Good footwear and not running like a quamby help. Get into it!
Mind you the last time the missus made me run 24km I went into shock at the end of it...
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...................... who I probably bored everyone to death here saying he couldn't kick before we even traded for him.
You don't bore us to death MT.
And btw, I don't think tanking is the right strategy.
:P ;D ;D
:lol :rollin
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...................... who I probably bored everyone to death here saying he couldn't kick before we even traded for him.
You don't bore us to death MT.
And btw, I don't think tanking is the right strategy.
:P ;D ;D
This I don't get. Hawthorn tanked for a flag, St Kilda tanked for 2 grand finals appearances, Collingwood tanked for a flag, West Coast tanked for a flag.
While you don't have to tank, it is becoming clear that tanking as a strategy has worked for a number of clubs and with Martin's pickup last year, Cotchin 2 years before and potentially another good to great player this year, it seems a very valid strategy for Richmond to pursue. Given the shape of our list and the rules as they stand, why wouldn't we? we clearly aren't going to be any good next year with the inexperience of our list.
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...................... who I probably bored everyone to death here saying he couldn't kick before we even traded for him.
You don't bore us to death MT.
And btw, I don't think tanking is the right strategy.
:P ;D ;D
This I don't get. Hawthorn tanked for a flag, St Kilda tanked for 2 grand finals appearances, Collingwood tanked for a flag, West Coast tanked for a flag.
While you don't have to tank, it is becoming clear that tanking as a strategy has worked for a number of clubs and with Martin's pickup last year, Cotchin 2 years before and potentially another good to great player this year, it seems a very valid strategy for Richmond to pursue. Given the shape of our list and the rules as they stand, why wouldn't we? we clearly aren't going to be any good next year with the inexperience of our list.
Hawthorn didn't win a flag from tanking, they players they drafted from tanking mostly just got delisted
Saints have won nothing
Collingwood was down for one year to get Pendlebury & Thomas, if that's all it took we should have 3 flags in the last 5 years
West Coast never tanked for a flag either, they had one injury affected year where they finished 14th and picked up Chris Judd who was the only one left from the standout top 3 that year. Hardly tanking. They've been tanking recently, but it hasn't got them anywhere and the players they've picked have been poo
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...................... who I probably bored everyone to death here saying he couldn't kick before we even traded for him.
You don't bore us to death MT.
And btw, I don't think tanking is the right strategy.
:P ;D ;D
This I don't get. Hawthorn tanked for a flag, St Kilda tanked for 2 grand finals appearances, Collingwood tanked for a flag, West Coast tanked for a flag.
While you don't have to tank, it is becoming clear that tanking as a strategy has worked for a number of clubs and with Martin's pickup last year, Cotchin 2 years before and potentially another good to great player this year, it seems a very valid strategy for Richmond to pursue. Given the shape of our list and the rules as they stand, why wouldn't we? we clearly aren't going to be any good next year with the inexperience of our list.
Hawthorn didn't win a flag from tanking, they players they drafted from tanking mostly just got delisted
Saints have won nothing
Collingwood was down for one year to get Pendlebury & Thomas, if that's all it took we should have 3 flags in the last 5 years
West Coast never tanked for a flag either, they had one injury affected year where they finished 14th and picked up Chris Judd who was the only one left from the standout top 3 that year. Hardly tanking. They've been tanking recently, but it hasn't got them anywhere and the players they've picked have been poo
Hodge, Ellis, Roughead, Buddy
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Hodge, Ellis, Roughead, Buddy
They picked up Hodge at the end of 2001 after finishing 6th and got the priority pick from Fremantle in a trade so it had nothing to do with any tanking.
Roughead and Franklin were taken at the end of a miserable season that saw Hawthorn on the bottom of the ladder at the half way point with 2 wins from 11 games. In Round 19 they beat the 3rd bottom side by 11 points and in round 21 they beat the bottom side by 23 points. Both of these sides they beat also qualified for priority picks they were so bad and Hawthorn's performance was so good it then went out and sacked it's coach. So please point out to me just 1 game in 2004 that Hawthorn tanked in to allow themselves to pick up a priority pick - just 1 game to back up the theory that they tanked to get Roughead and Franklin.
They picked up Ellis at the end of 2005 after finishing 14th and he was always going to be their 1st pick regardless - Kennedy was always going to Carlton with their 2nd pick and Pendlebury was always going to Collingwood with theirs so Hawthorn were always getting Ellis, priority pick or not. Their #6 pick is the 'actual' extra player they got and that pick (Beau Dowler) hasn't exactly changed the face or fortunes of the club has he?
So summing all that up it would appear you are suggesting that Ellis won Hawthorn their flag? I disagree.
And regardless, their tanking appears to be paying off in spades now doesn't it? Karma is a funny thing and I don't want to invite it into our club in any negative sense whatsoever - we have been paying for the sins of our past for way too long as it is.
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Hodge, Ellis, Roughead, Buddy
They picked up Hodge at the end of 2001 after finishing 6th and got the priority pick from Fremantle in a trade so it had nothing to do with any tanking.
Roughead and Franklin were taken at the end of a miserable season that saw Hawthorn on the bottom of the ladder at the half way point with 2 wins from 11 games. In Round 19 they beat the 3rd bottom side by 11 points and in round 21 they beat the bottom side by 23 points. Both of these sides they beat also qualified for priority picks they were so bad and Hawthorn's performance was so good it then went out and sacked it's coach. So please point out to me just 1 game in 2004 that Hawthorn tanked in to allow themselves to pick up a priority pick - just 1 game to back up the theory that they tanked to get Roughead and Franklin.
They picked up Ellis at the end of 2005 after finishing 14th and he was always going to be their 1st pick regardless - Kennedy was always going to Carlton with their 2nd pick and Pendlebury was always going to Collingwood with theirs so Hawthorn were always getting Ellis, priority pick or not. Their #6 pick is the 'actual' extra player they got and that pick (Beau Dowler) hasn't exactly changed the face or fortunes of the club has he?
So summing all that up it would appear you are suggesting that Ellis won Hawthorn their flag? I disagree.
And regardless, their tanking appears to be paying off in spades now doesn't it? Karma is a funny thing and I don't want to invite it into our club in any negative sense whatsoever - we have been paying for the sins of our past for way too long as it is.
Ellis was BoG in my opinion.
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Ellis was BoG in my opinion.
But there is so much more to the flag than the Grand Final Danog. Do you honestly believe that Hawthorn had a premiership year because Ellis (a 20 year old, 2nd year player who averaged 19.8 disposals, 6.6 marks, 2.3 tackles, kicked 3 goals and received 1 Brownlow vote) was on their list?
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Hodge, Ellis, Roughead, Buddy
They picked up Hodge at the end of 2001 after finishing 6th and got the priority pick from Fremantle in a trade so it had nothing to do with any tanking.
Roughead and Franklin were taken at the end of a miserable season that saw Hawthorn on the bottom of the ladder at the half way point with 2 wins from 11 games. In Round 19 they beat the 3rd bottom side by 11 points and in round 21 they beat the bottom side by 23 points. Both of these sides they beat also qualified for priority picks they were so bad and Hawthorn's performance was so good it then went out and sacked it's coach. So please point out to me just 1 game in 2004 that Hawthorn tanked in to allow themselves to pick up a priority pick - just 1 game to back up the theory that they tanked to get Roughead and Franklin.
They picked up Ellis at the end of 2005 after finishing 14th and he was always going to be their 1st pick regardless - Kennedy was always going to Carlton with their 2nd pick and Pendlebury was always going to Collingwood with theirs so Hawthorn were always getting Ellis, priority pick or not. Their #6 pick is the 'actual' extra player they got and that pick (Beau Dowler) hasn't exactly changed the face or fortunes of the club has he?
So summing all that up it would appear you are suggesting that Ellis won Hawthorn their flag? I disagree.
And regardless, their tanking appears to be paying off in spades now doesn't it? Karma is a funny thing and I don't want to invite it into our club in any negative sense whatsoever - we have been paying for the sins of our past for way too long as it is.
Ellis was BoG in my opinion.
Hawthorn won the flag because of a unique game plan that sides hadn't figured out how to counter, Geelong getting it's choke on and a core of young players that were on the list prior to Clarkson getting the job. Players such as Bateman, Gilham, Hodge, Sewell, Osborne, Brown, Williams, Mitchell plus some more experienced campaigners like Crawford, Croad & Dew. They all had nothing to do with tanking.