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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: one-eyed on February 11, 2011, 02:27:20 AM
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Plan is perfect Tigers tonic
* Matt Windley
* From: Herald Sun
* February 11, 2011
TERRY Wallace says Richmond's ambitious $6 million Fighting Tiger Fund is exactly what the club needs.
The former Tigers coach, sacked mid-2009, said the plan to wipe out a $4.5 million debt and build a war chest for the future would provide much-needed impetus at Punt Rd.
"It's fascinating," Wallace said yesterday.
"I'm really hoping that they achieve what they want to do because it's clearly what the club needs.
"I think (chief executive) Brendon Gale is the right person for the job."
Wallace spent a year at Richmond as a player in 1987 before returning in 2005 for 4 1/2 seasons as coach.
He said the problem at the time of his arrival was that nothing had changed from his playing days some 18 years earlier.
"I walked back in there and couldn't believe it ... the place had not changed at all," he said. "When we first got in there, there was nothing there. There was not enough money to buy paint just to repaint the rooms.
"We had to go our coteries to get the money for the paint and myself and (then football manager Brian Royal) had to paint all the team rooms, the gym. That's how far behind we were."
Wallace told SEN spending in the football department was equally spbehind.
"We had basically no recruiter, there wasn't one development coach within the footy club, didn't have enough money to have one. No welfare person, no sports psych. You can't compete in a national competition unless you can do it properly."
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/plan-is-perfect-tigers-tonic/story-e6frf9jf-1226004019030
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fair call.
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fair call.
He still took the $3mil
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fair call.
He still took the $3mil
Did you want him to work for free?
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fair call.
no it's not , unless Im otherwise mistaken he had Miller and a range of assistants that masqueraded as recruiters and development coaches, sadly they achieved didly sqwat. The only facts are that during his era we had wastes of space in critical posts within the club ::)
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As much as everyone hates Wallace, he is right! He is just the last in a long list of coaches who have complained of the same deficits! It does make me wonder though, why come here to begin with? He would have seen these problems when he walked through the joint! The 5 year contract? Coin? Surely he would have got the same money per annum at another club and everyone knows contracts mean little at Punt Road when coaching!
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what id like to understand is how does the investment in our football department historically compare to St.Kilda who have played in 7 or 8 of last 10 final series. the crux of it is having quality people in pivotal posts not "good for nothings"
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fair call.
He still took the $3mil
Did you want him to work for free?
Just find it a bit hypocritical. You're happy the club can't afford paint but happy to give a bloke $3m to take us from 16th to 9th and back to 16th?
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there wasn't one development coach within the footy club
Including Terry. It might have helped if he got involved with the youngsters a bit more.
Good article though, it will give those that have doubts about the Fighting Tiger Fund a bit of an idea how far behind we are.
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All of this should be further proof that the 2 biggest and powerful recruits our club has done in 20 years is Benny Gale and Dimma.
IMO anyone else would've failed. They are smart people and realised we were streets behind of everyone and now are doing something about it.
Come on lets get serious here. What was it again. Ooh thats right one part time skills coach for the better part of 5 years or was it a p/t weights coach.
That being said if North can play more finals than us that our biggest problem was recruiting and not spending in the football department. FACT
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All of this should be further proof that the 2 biggest and powerful recruits our club has done in 20 years is Benny Gale and Dimma.
IMO anyone else would've failed. They are smart people and realised we were streets behind of everyone and now are doing something about it.
Good post daniel.
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what id like to understand is how does the investment in our football department historically compare to St.Kilda who have played in 7 or 8 of last 10 final series. the crux of it is having quality people in pivotal posts not "good for nothings"
We've always been in the bottom 2 clubs in terms of footy department for as long as i recall and what used to pee me awff the most was that certain other clubs were(and ARE) getting financial assistance from the afl and have been using it to have a bigger footy department budget than us who stood on our own 2 feet! Just wasnt and isnt right!
The bottom line is the footyclub was wrong by appointing an experienced coach like Wallace for 5-600k a season instead of pumping that cash into more development coaches alongside a rookie coach that would've cost 200k a season(hello hawthorn model).... and Wallace is a smart man he wouldve realised he was on a hiding to nothing and never really stood a chance when looking at the whole situation rationally walking in to a place with a lack of support - so both the club and wallace share the balme on this one in my eyes
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Let it go fullas.
The club was a sham and Wallace got nothing from the supposed stalwarts.
Rfc is an example of neglect,greed and most importantly employees Interested only in taking a healthy wage home.
Wallace IMO has called it rite and most of u hate it cos ur as ignorant as the prior admins wanted u to be.
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DONT get me started on the sun tanned one, move on
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lol Jakness.
Blaming Wallet for 30 years of failure is a great idea :santa
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Let it go fullas.
The club was a sham and Wallace got nothing from the supposed stalwarts.
Rfc is an example of neglect,greed and most importantly employees Interested only in taking a healthy wage home.
Wallace IMO has called it rite and most of u hate it cos ur as ignorant as the prior admins wanted u to be.
:thumbsup
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lol Jakness.
Blaming Wallet for 30 years of failure is a great idea :santa
howabout just his 5 years then ::)...lets account for that for starters, did he seriously have a clue...love the one about the hawthorn game plan catapulting the game ahead in light years..so they've won less than 50% of their games since that flag, he's a visionary is TW :lol
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Terry knew he was fraud. Fancy not knowing the deficiencies in the club when he took the job only to talk about them now that he is gone and he spun crapola about how good we would be.
According to Terry based on his 2007 pre season statement we should be cherry ripe for the flag this year. ::)
As right as it is it still is hollow hearing it from him especially the magnitude of the job that he left behind for his successor to inherit.
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Terry knew he was fraud. Fancy not knowing the deficiencies in the club when he took the job only to talk about them now that he is gone and he spun crapola about how good we would be.
According to Terry based on his 2007 pre season statement we should be cherry ripe for the flag this year. ::)
As right as it is it still is hollow hearing it from him especially the magnitude of the job that he left behind for his successor to inherit.
Exactly right tuckerbag. I don't forget all the rubbish he and miller fed us until wallet realizes that hawthorn (the job he supposedly rejected because we were better placed) were actually doing what he was supposed to have done at Richmond.
I remember board challenges and Wallace standing by Miller and Casey. What rubbish. IF THE CLUB WAS IN SUCH A STATE AT THE TIME THEN WHY DIDNT HE SAY SOMETHING? Instead he fed us a load of........
And what is his role on SEN? "list management expert".
This guy really irks me!!!!!
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lol @ those defending Terry. :lol
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lol Jakness.
Blaming Wallet for 30 years of failure is a great idea :santa
where did I say i blamed Wallace for 30 years???
Wallace lost the plot, end of story, first year was okay, the rest all down hill, FACT
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lol @ those defending Terry. :lol
Because we're not bitter and twisted like some :wallywink
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Two letters.
CC.
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since when has stating fact translated as defending terry?
Grow TF up,FFS! :scream
Jak u say TW lost the plot.Fair enuff but the guy had more idea than frawley,which is frightening.
How can this spud cock sucker get away with his occupation of punt road scot free,yet wallace supposedly stuffed us more...?
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since when has stating fact translated as defending terry?
Grow TF up,FFS! :scream
Jak u say TW lost the plot.Fair enuff but the guy had more idea than frawley,which is frightening.
How can this spud cock sucker get away with his occupation of punt road scot free,yet wallace supposedly stuffed us more...?
The reason is that people hated Terry Wallace before he got the job! Also, from memory, Spud was second choice at Richmond! We were scraping the bottom of the coaching barrell!
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I cant believe what im hearing but then again its Moi so its only natural she would defend the tanned one.
This is a guy who said if im to take the credit for the Tigers list then im to take the credit for the Buldogs. I mean what a selfish twisted fool we had as coach for 5 years.
He was only interested in looking after himself
You know what at the end of the day who cares he got exactly what he deserved and we got a brilliant coach in Dimma as a result.
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I cant believe what im hearing but then again its Moi so its only natural she would defend the tanned one.
This is a guy who said if im to take the credit for the Tigers list then im to take the credit for the Buldogs. I mean what a selfish twisted fool we had as coach for 5 years.
He was only interested in looking after himself
You know what at the end of the day who cares he got exactly what he deserved and we got a brilliant coach in Dimma as a result.
A well paid job in the media?
:lol
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I cant believe what im hearing but then again its Moi so its only natural she would defend the tanned one.
Did you really expect me to change my view?
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I cant believe what im hearing but then again its Moi so its only natural she would defend the tanned one.
This is a guy who said if im to take the credit for the Tigers list then im to take the credit for the Buldogs. I mean what a selfish twisted fool we had as coach for 5 years.
He was only interested in looking after himself
You know what at the end of the day who cares he got exactly what he deserved and we got a brilliant coach in Dimma as a result.
A well paid job in the media?
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yeah real well paid. SEN wow. Next stop tinseltown
He got ridiculed for all to see thats what he got. Everyone saw him for the fraud that he is.
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I cant believe what im hearing but then again its Moi so its only natural she would defend the tanned one.
Did you really expect me to change my view?
You have your view i have mine
this was a bloke who wanted to coach his last game against the Buldogs at a sick attempt to regain the respect of the West.
Was the club stuffed when he arrived. Maybe, but it didnt stop him feeding us lies and his last 3 months as coach proved what a disaster he has been for our football club.
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his last 3 months proved what a pathetic list of men we had.
Once again,the players,led by the likes of Joel Bowden,chose to perform a, end/mid/ year mutuny.
I know for fact that Bowden simply wouldnt listen to coaches orders on match day.
Nw.if he was suck a great clubman with such integrity etc(vomits) why didnt he walk from the club?
Instead he chose to publicly defame the club yet AGAIN,in a public,indiscreet way
and may i add,mainly to prolong his income and false reputation as a loyal champion.
FFS,He didnt even have the balls to admit to his part in it all,instead being made an example of by Rawlings,which was a major step in this club sending the message,"No player is bigger than the Club"
IDGAF what Jak says and i dont tale it as gospel.
I know what goes on but i dont always share.
Terry made mistakes but the rot had long set in before his arrival.
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Was the club stuffed when he arrived. Maybe, but it didnt stop him feeding us lies and his last 3 months as coach proved what a disaster he has been for our football club.
I don't think he came here to deliberately destroy the club
He still left the place better than when he arrived
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I cant believe what im hearing but then again its Moi so its only natural she would defend the tanned one.
Did you really expect me to change my view?
You have your view i have mine
this was a bloke who wanted to coach his last game against the Buldogs at a sick attempt to regain the respect of the West.
Was the club stuffed when he arrived. Maybe, but it didnt stop him feeding us lies and his last 3 months as coach proved what a disaster he has been for our football club.
Wallace was not man for our club in hindsight, however, the disaster you talk about Daniel had been occurring for 20 years before he got there Daniel! Walls, Jeans, frawley, Jewell again,Gieschen Bartlett, Sproule etc. The place was a train wreck many moons before he got there!
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I cant believe what im hearing but then again its Moi so its only natural she would defend the tanned one.
Did you really expect me to change my view?
You have your view i have mine
this was a bloke who wanted to coach his last game against the Buldogs at a sick attempt to regain the respect of the West.
Was the club stuffed when he arrived. Maybe, but it didnt stop him feeding us lies and his last 3 months as coach proved what a disaster he has been for our football club.
Wallace was not man for our club in hindsight, however, the disaster you talk about Daniel had been occurring for 20 years before he got there Daniel! Walls, Jeans, frawley, Jewell again,Gieschen Bartlett, Sproule etc. The place was a train wreck many moons before he got there!
Yes i agree with you and MOI there but im focusing on his 5 years as coach not the last 20 years.
We played a final under Spud and as a member thats all i wish for. Now did he send us back 5 years, yes im sure he did
Wallace changed his game plan toward the end of his 3rd year when he realized he made a serious error of judgement with the list. He was plain a simple a really poo coach and a face you just would want to king hit
Like i said the tanned one did us a favour cause we have IMO the best coach to steer us the right way
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wtf can i not post images????
try this link FF sent me
You Need to upload your pic to a website. I use www.compymcputer.com
Once uploaded, copy the URL it creates for the pic.
On OER in the reply click on the Insert Image icon (under the I).
Paste the URL between the tags.
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thanks DAN.
I use another mob but wha i didnt know was they had added some extra BS code to the links....which i had to delete :thumbsup
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Brackets deserves a prize for this post IMHO. Champagne Comedy OER Style!
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cheers 10
It's an old piece of work that ended up inspiring this
www.myspace.com/dannyfrawley (http://www.myspace.com/dannyfrawley)
dont know if the page is still there or not.
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cheers 10
It's an old piece of work that ended up inspiring this
www.myspace.com/dannyfrawley (http://www.myspace.com/dannyfrawley)
dont know if the page is still there or not.
Which inspired this
http://www.myspace.com/spudsmuffin
Shame Myspace is stuffed now!