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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: wayne on April 15, 2011, 11:40:36 PM
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Astbury, Edwards and Graham out.
Rance, Browne and Nason or Webberley in.
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Edwards and Nahas - Out
Anyone who is available to come in.
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Astbury, Edwards and Graham out.
Rance, Browne and Nason or Webberley in.
Graham was ok tonite
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Out: Edwards, Nahas, Graham
In: anyone with a heart beat is better than those 3 spuds
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Gus, Edwards, Grimes, Nahas, Helbig OUT.....(Helbig has done nothing wrong but I think Tuck can add more grunt in a must win game)
Derickx, McGuane, Rance, Tuck, Nason IN....
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be dropping vickery before Gus
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edwards, nahas and helbig to get more of the pill at coburg.
Ins - Tuck and whoever puts their hand up
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Edwards needs to go. His errors are momentum killers.
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be dropping vickery before Gus
lol...I always suspected you had no idea but this has just confirmed it :wallywink :wallywink
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Vickery has to stay in coz he can at least play deep in the forward and kick some goals. Looking for Derrickx to get some match fitness so he can come in for Gus.
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Vickery has to stay in coz he can at least play deep in the forward and kick some goals. Looking for Derrickx to get some match fitness so he can come in for Gus.
Yes, at least Vickery is showing some improvement, he may not have had the best game tonight at at least he put in!! Some of Gus's efforts tonight were deplorable >:( >:(
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Outs: Edwards, Nahas, White (I'm a Matty White fan but his first half was awful), Grimes,
Ins: McGuane, Tuck, Rance, Nason
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Vickery has to stay in coz he can at least play deep in the forward and kick some goals. Looking for Derrickx to get some match fitness so he can come in for Gus.
I'd give X a few games at the burgers before coming in, hes missed a good 6-7 weeks
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Outs: Edwards, Nahas, White (I'm a Matty White fan but his first half was awful), Grimes,
Ins: McGuane, Tuck, Rance, Nason
Yep pretty good call WP!!
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White stays in Nason stays out for mine
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Astbury, Edwards and Graham out.
Rance, Browne and Nason or Webberley in.
Graham was ok tonite
Hate to agree.
I cant stand watching Gus play. But when he started to take control we were on top. Just shows how important a good ruckman is.
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Can't drop Gus, we have no one to replace him with yet. He pretty well smashed Cam Wood tonight, it was the Collingwood midfield rucking to Grahams's tap work that smashed us early.
Rance & McGuane will walk back into the side after suspension
Nahas may be dropped, but he'll probably do better against a side that isn't as developed as Collingwood. He'll never be a player than will stand up in finals football though. Always struggles against bigger bodied sides.
Edwards had a shocker, will be interesting to see what happens with him this week. I still think the coaches love him as he definitely gets to where the ball is and provides an option. We will see in a week's time I guess.
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Vickery has to stay in coz he can at least play deep in the forward and kick some goals. Looking for Derrickx to get some match fitness so he can come in for Gus.
Vickery, not up to it.
miller will play tall forward
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be dropping vickery before Gus
lol...I always suspected you had no idea but this has just confirmed it :wallywink :wallywink
Really, had 5 possesions again last night ( one was a free I might add )
Has the presence of a marsh mellow
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be dropping vickery before Gus
lol...I always suspected you had no idea but this has just confirmed it :wallywink :wallywink
Really, had 5 possesions again last night ( one was a free I might add )
Has the presence of a marsh mellow
Yeah but he has a brain, thats one more asset than Gus has.........
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Tuck must come in. Edwards and Graham have to be dropped. Maybe drop Helbig and bring in Nason. Bring in x man if fit. Let him have a run
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Ins. McGuane Nason Tuck
Outs . Grimes Edwards Nahas
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McGuane and Rance can go suck some fat ones at Coburg for a while as far as I'm concerned. You don't just waltz back into the side after costing it with poor discipline. Grimesy has been alright i reckon, gets to as many contests as McGuane, is a better kick, and isn't as thick as a turkish merkin. When Moore is back I wouldn't play McGuane or Thursty at all. Moore, Astbury, Grimes, Newman, Deledio, Batchelor as a back 6 has some promise.
Out: Edwards
In: Tuck or Nase
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OUT: Miller (Never play in a Richmond jumper again) Edwards Grimes
IN Tuck Mcguane Rance
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MUST MUST win game no excuses 'And I Quote' or I will spew up :chuck
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Need to win the next two mate
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OUT: Miller (Never play in a Richmond jumper again) Edwards Grimes
IN Tuck Mcguane Rance
Hey CUB are you proposing Astbury play forward? With your ins we'll have Jack at FF and Rance Thursfield McGuane and Astbury in the backline. Feel we may be a little tall for a forward line whose main goalkicker is Lindsay Thomas.
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I kinda realised it doesn't fit but Miller is just an absolute SPUD, give Astbury a go as a foil for Jack we are experimenting still aren't we? Lets look to the future and think outside the square a bit. No sheep stations. Miller is not the answer!
Or maybe a Rance misses if Morton goes OK at Coburg after a rocket.
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In: Rance, Tuck, Morton
Out: Astbury (have a rest and get some confidence), Edwards, Nahas
I'd keep Grimes in over McGuane. I like Grimes.
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Connors will return, ego has been repaired. Plenty of love at Punt Road ;)
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Edwards, White, Grimes OUT
McGuane, Nason, Tuck IN
Edwards was a joke against Collingwood, and White was average at best. Don't like the idea of dropping Grimes, but if McGuane is available, we're better off playing him on Petrie.
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stuff foley off before white.
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i have said since his debut that foley is am overrated colac or should say holac turd
will never be any good and we should have traded him yrs ago when he had currency
out nahas foley turdfeild
in tuck nason mguane
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not too much good ever came out of Colac, i must admit.
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Vickery has to stay in coz he can at least play deep in the forward and kick some goals. Looking for Derrickx to get some match fitness so he can come in for Gus.
Vickery, not up to it.
miller will play tall forward
what's the point playing Miller ahead of Vickery in terms of development? Even if Vickery doesn't work out for us, (I think he will) wouldn't it be more benificial to give him senior games which add to his currency for potential future trade? That way we will know if he's right for us or not.
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i have said since his debut that foley is am overrated colac or should say holac turd
will never be any good and we should have traded him yrs ago when he had currency
out nahas foley turdfeild
in tuck nahas mguane
How can nahas be in and out ?
You have no idea, back to the fruit and veg for you sunshine
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Vickery has to stay in coz he can at least play deep in the forward and kick some goals. Looking for Derrickx to get some match fitness so he can come in for Gus.
Vickery, not up to it.
miller will play tall forward
what's the point playing Miller ahead of Vickery in terms of development? Even if Vickery doesn't work out for us, (I think he will) wouldn't it be more benificial to give him senior games which add to his currency for potential future trade? That way we will know if he's right for us or not.
Like it or not.
Miller is a good hit up target.
takes the focus away from Jack R.
Miller will play next week no doubt.
Could of kicked 4 last night
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i have said since his debut that foley is am overrated colac or should say holac turd
will never be any good and we should have traded him yrs ago when he had currency
out nahas foley turdfeild
in tuck nahas mguane
How can nahas be in and out ?
You have no idea, back to the fruit and veg for you sunshine
typo w@nker
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Vickery has to stay in coz he can at least play deep in the forward and kick some goals. Looking for Derrickx to get some match fitness so he can come in for Gus.
Vickery, not up to it.
miller will play tall forward
what's the point playing Miller ahead of Vickery in terms of development? Even if Vickery doesn't work out for us, (I think he will) wouldn't it be more benificial to give him senior games which add to his currency for potential future trade? That way we will know if he's right for us or not.
Like it or not.
Miller will play next week no doubt.
Could of kicked 4 last night
same goes with edwards
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Vickery has to stay in coz he can at least play deep in the forward and kick some goals. Looking for Derrickx to get some match fitness so he can come in for Gus.
Vickery, not up to it.
miller will play tall forward
what's the point playing Miller ahead of Vickery in terms of development? Even if Vickery doesn't work out for us, (I think he will) wouldn't it be more benificial to give him senior games which add to his currency for potential future trade? That way we will know if he's right for us or not.
Like it or not.
Miller is a good hit up target.
takes the focus away from Jack R.
Miller will play next week no doubt.
Could of kicked 4 last night
good points
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X to actually attend a game of football, now thats a change :rollin
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Could of kicked 4 last night
coulda shoulda woulda
except he's a stuffing spud
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OUT
Edwards, Graham, Astbury, Miller, Vickery
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Morton, Derrickx, McGuane, Post, Rance
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Could of kicked 4 last night
coulda shoulda woulda
except he's a effing spud
;D
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Out: Edwards, Thursfield
In: Nason, McGuane
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Out: Edwards, Graham, Grimes
In: Dea, Browne, McGuane
Edit: Forgot McGuane was available.
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back to the topic,
Post for Vickery if todays performance by "'wilbur"' was that good
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Out - Foley- Have a run in the magoos,Tiger
In - Tuck - Boys will love it.
Give Edwards one more week then if no good,FHO for either Foley or Spongehead Ben.
I wanna see DX un too but i believe there's an ankle thing?
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Out - Foley- Have a run in the magoos,Tiger
In - Tuck - Boys will love it.
Give Edwards one more week then if no good,FHO for either Foley or Spongehead Ben.
I wanna see DX un too but i believe there's an ankle thing?
you serious? Your calling for Foley to get dropped yet you want Edwards in for another week.
Mate he has had 4 shockers not including the Adelaide match. He is the one who needs to be dropped the spud.
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I wanna see DX un too but i believe there's an ankle thing?
Played for Coburg today
IMHO needs a another week or two - looked good in patches but just needs some more game time
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Out - Foley- Have a run in the magoos,Tiger
In - Tuck - Boys will love it.
Give Edwards one more week then if no good,FHO for either Foley or Spongehead Ben.
I wanna see DX un too but i believe there's an ankle thing?
you serious? Your calling for Foley to get dropped yet you want Edwards in for another week.
Mate he has had 4 shockers not including the Adelaide match. He is the one who needs to be dropped the spud.
Forget Foley.
Wastes the footy and wastes opportunity for others when he's on the gtound.
stuff Edwatds off like i said,if he plays another s h i t t e r..
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Post bog for coburg.
Replace Miller? I reckon FHRO
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Foley dropped..thats a joke right?
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Miller will stay as North have Thompson, Grima and Ferritto as tall backs
Dimma wants to protect Riewoldt and get an even spread of goals
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OUT: Nahas, Edwards, Grimes
IN: Rance, McGuane, Nason
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OUT: Nahas, Edwards, Grimes
IN: Rance, McGuane, Nason
agree with the outs.
unsure about the ins though
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OUT: Nahas ,Edwards, Grimes, Miller, Graham
IN: Nason, Post, Rance, Mcguane, Browne
Lets smash those Roos
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Vickery, not up to it.
Man you seriously need to get at least one clue about footy before you post on a footy site.
Not sure how Coburg went today but I wanna have a look at Dea off half back so my changes are
Out - Grimes , Edwards ( both omitted )
In - McGuane , Dea
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Vickery, not up to it.
Man you seriously need to get at least one clue about footy before you post on a footy site.
Not sure how Coburg went today but I wanna have a look at Dea off half back so my changes are
Out - Grimes , Edwards ( both omitted )
In - McGuane , Dea
I am serious.
5 possessions a game ( which one free is included ) doesnt cut it with me.
i want the RFC to be successfull.
and to be successfull, you need to be ruthless.
Not keep players on lists as there good blokes etc
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One of North's biggest problems is that they have very bad structure in their forward 50. Wonder how many tall defender's we'll need.
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Vickery, not up to it.
Man you seriously need to get at least one clue about footy before you post on a footy site.
Not sure how Coburg went today but I wanna have a look at Dea off half back so my changes are
Out - Grimes , Edwards ( both omitted )
In - McGuane , Dea
I am serious.
5 possessions a game ( which one free is included ) doesnt cut it with me.
i want the RFC to be successfull.
and to be successfull, you need to be ruthless.
Not keep players on lists as there good blokes etc
premature call
clearly Vickery is improving, u dont crucify a bloke for a bad game. He'll need to go back to coburg at stages this season but he's shown something the first 4 weeks against tough opposition
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I see it that way too Tony if you drop a young bloke after one bad game then you'll kill the confidence long term and it won't serve as proactive. Give Ty a few more weeks and lets make a call after we play a few less imposing teams and see how he goes about his business there.
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Coming into the easier part of the draw, you keep the kids in and you might get a confidence boosting breakout game from one.
Vickery might bag 5 against Brissy or Norf.
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^ Agree! Think Vickers needs this type of game for his development. Give him this week and next and if he is still terrible then 'You know'
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REVISED
OUT: Miller (Never play in a Richmond jumper again) Edwards Astbury
IN Post Tuck Mcguane
Is that better? ;D
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OUT: Thursfield
IN: McGuane
I would give Grimes one more week of experience at AFL level before bring Rance back in. A fit Moore will complicate matters especially if North go in with a small forwardline. We never seem to handle good small forwards well.
The calls for Astbury to be rested is premature imo. He has had to play the role of a shut down defensive tall over the last two weeks which is why he has seemed quiter than normal. He usually plays on the third tall/medium size forward and assists with the movement out of defense. Would have been great experience for him taking the opposition full forward the last two weeks.
IMHO if the coaches take Edwards or Nahas out of the team it will be for Morton or Connors but not Tuck. They are waiting until later in the year when the pace of the game slows and it becomes a stoppage fest which Tuck relishes.
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Thought I saw Grimes taking Cloke and Thursty taking Dawes, Stripes. I thought Astbury was playing third tall. Was I watching the wrong game or were they switching?
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Thought I saw Grimes taking Cloke and Thursty taking Dawes, Stripes. I thought Astbury was playing third tall. Was I watching the wrong game or were they switching?
Saw Astbury Interviewed (though it was before the Collingwwod game) where he said with first Rance out and then McGuane he has had to play more as a stopper than he has been instructed to do up and until now. Was looking forward to the challenge...
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Agree that Vickery should remain in the team for the meantime. Thursfield should remain in the team against North. We need him for Drew Petrie. We have struggled this year regarding contested possessions. Tuck's inclusion would improve us significantly in that area.
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IMO we'll make a couple of changes but I think most will be to give a couple of the young guys a rest. In an ideal world I would think Dimma would like to keep the same side to measure the difference in performance against the best in Collingwood and a alsoran like North.
In: Rance, McGuane, Connors
Out: Thursty, Astbury (needs a rest), Edwards
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McGuane :banghead
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McGuane is an orange
Sounds like the only players that pushed for selection were Posty and possibly The Dea
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Big Red was quite good. no doubt we stick with gus gerkin this week tho
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Post has to come in.
As for the angry orange, no thanks. Show some more grunt please.
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Out: Edwards, Thursfield
In: Post, Tuck
There shall be no excuses this week this is an absolute must win game
The gypsy kings have no money, no future and players seriously down on confidence we just cant lose this.
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Whatever peoples wishes, I have no doubt we will bring in a number of our experienced backmen. Whether this is one or more, I would expect McGuane to be an immediate inclusion given what Dimma has stated about him being in career best form with Rance a definite maybe and even Moore in the mix if completely injury free. Connors is another player who would be a strong possibility.
McGuane in particular seems to get a bum wrap by some. Whatever he is doing or role he is playing, it is what the coaches have directed him to do and are happy with what he has produced to date. It is good to see players like Rance, Grimes and Astbury pushing for the same role all of who seem to have better desposal skills than Luke.
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Don't think Connors can make it, what is elite about any part of his game?
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McGuane & Rance will definitely both come in, no point arguing over that
Question is are they the only two changes and who will go out for them, not many others other than Post played well enough to put their hand up for a promotion
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If McGuappo and Rance are both coming in
Out: Miller Thursfield Edwards
In: Post McGuane Rance
Helbig to take Edwards starting spot and Rance the foot long sub
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B: McGuane Rance Bachelor
HB: Newman Astbury Grigg
C: Conca Martin Deledio
HF: Nahas Riewoldt White
F: Miller Vickery King
R: Graham Cotchin Foley
Int: Jackson, Houli, Helbig
Sub: Nason
Out: Edwards, Grimes, Thursfield
In: Rance, McGuane, Nason
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Nason needs several jabs and to be sent to paddock for the rest of the year.
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what has nase done to earn a spot? stuff all that's what
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Ronnie aint happy mate
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who the eff is ronnie? sick of your dribble mate :lol
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;)
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RICHMOND
INJURED: Daniel Connors (test), Tom Hislop (test), Kelvin Moore (test) Ben Griffiths (indefinite)
ON THE BLOCK: Jake King, Robin Nahas
ON THE CUSP: Daniel Connors, Kelvin Moore, Mitch Morton
ANDO’S FORECAST: Rance and McGuane are available for Sunday against the Kangaroos. Wouldn’t expect both to play. Connors at least has some spark
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/footy-barometer-round-5/story-e6frf9jf-1226041482103
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What's "On the block?" If it's the chopping block then why on earth would King be on it?
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What's "On the block?" If it's the chopping block then why on earth would King be on it?
Agree staggering assertion by Ando, actually STUPID assertion TBH
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Push-ups looked like he was carrying a leg in the second half, WP. I think you already mentioned it.
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he definitely looked out of sorts.
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IN THE MIX - RICHMOND
Damien Hardwick welcomes back tall defenders Luke McGuane and Alex Rance from suspension in time to face North Melbourne and he could be tempted into a couple more unforced changes as he looks for the Tigers' first win of the season. Jayden Post was rated Coburg's best in the loss to the Bullants, with Matt Dea, Andrew Browne and Shane Tuck also among the best players. Kel Moore will likely miss one more week with a hip complaint.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/112049/default.aspx
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What's "On the block?" If it's the chopping block then why on earth would King be on it?
Yep Ando did mean chopping block.
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In-4 points
Out-disrespect
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Push-ups looked like he was carrying a leg in the second half, WP. I think you already mentioned it.
Yep I know that Muscles but I take being on the "chopping block" is related to form not injury
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IN THE MIX - RICHMOND
Damien Hardwick welcomes back tall defenders Luke McGuane and Alex Rance from suspension in time to face North Melbourne and he could be tempted into a couple more unforced changes as he looks for the Tigers' first win of the season. Jayden Post was rated Coburg's best in the loss to the Bullants, with Matt Dea, Andrew Browne and Shane Tuck also among the best players. Kel Moore will likely miss one more week with a hip complaint.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/112049/default.aspx
Before WP vomits at the thought, Post needs to string more than one good game at coburg together before he gets selected! Thats the trouble with us, we bring guys in on the back of one good game!
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IN THE MIX - RICHMOND
http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/112049/default.aspx
Before WP vomits at the thought, Post needs to string more than one good game at coburg together before he gets selected! Thats the trouble with us, we bring guys in on the back of one good game!
What would be even worse for us is if we say one thing, and do another ala Terry Wallace: ie/ "We want to put as many games into the kids as possible". Then a player with no long-term value like Miller keeps a kid like Post out of the team.
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IN THE MIX - RICHMOND
http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/112049/default.aspx
Before WP vomits at the thought, Post needs to string more than one good game at coburg together before he gets selected! Thats the trouble with us, we bring guys in on the back of one good game!
What would be even worse for us is if we say one thing, and do another ala Terry Wallace: ie/ "We want to put as many games into the kids as possible". Then a player with no long-term value like Miller keeps a kid like Post out of the team.
At the FTF Gala Hardwick explained that Post had injured himself on the PRO surface where the cricket pitch sits a few inches higher than the rest of the ground and that it had cost Post from playing in Round 1 as he was still returning from injury. Part of recovery for a player who still hasn't cemented his position in the side is to play for Coburg. I wouldn't have too much problem if he gets selected in front of Miller this week, but I can certainly understand that we shouldn't be gifting games to kids unless its absolutely necessary and we could ask that he stays back and repeats his intensity at the contest to earn a senior spot.
To accuse Hardwick of keeping kids out of the team by playing Miller when we have Griffiths & Post still returning from injury is pretty baseless
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No, I'm not accusing Hardwick of anything. I'm just saying that I'd rather we fast-tracked a kid like Post into a key position than persisting with a short term option like Miller, who should only get a run if our other options are injured or suspended.
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Give gourdis a run at chf ahead of miller
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The inclusion of Post will be an interesting case for mine, whenever it occurs. Not so much that he gets a game but moreso where he plays. Griffiths seems to be the umber one future option to be developed in the 2nd forward role with Vickery the resting ruck. Post was suggested to be battling it out with Vickery for that 3rd forward role but I think Vickery has overtaken him at present.
If he is moved into th backline where I believe he played his best football on the weekend for Coburg who's spot will he take - Astbury? McGuane? Rance? or Moore? Unless Rance or Astbury plays a few poor games in their allocated roles/positions (Astbury has not been playing his normal designated role over the last two weeks), I can't see him pushing his way into the D50 either.
Will be interesting how it all pans out and regardless, it seems we have slowly building depth at either end. Just need the who cohort of talls to lift together now :pray
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MUST MUST win game no excuses 'And I Quote' or I will spew up :chuck
CUB, I have a raincoat and a bottle of domestos ready to go! :lol North always seem to lift for us which really peezus me orf as I hate them so much!! :banghead
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Give gourdis a run at chf ahead of miller
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fTHL0MAWkmY&feature=related
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Before WP vomits at the thought, Post needs to string more than one good game at coburg together before he gets selected! Thats the trouble with us, we bring guys in on the back of one good game!
Post of the week ;D
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According to the footy show:
Ins (from): Connors, McGaune, Nason, Rance, Tuck.
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According to the footy show:
Ins (from): Connors, McGaune, Nason, Rance, Tuck.
Doesn't mean anything, they've been naming 31 man sides for every team except the Thursday game
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According to the footy show:
Ins (from): Connors, McGaune, Nason, Rance, Tuck.
Doesn't mean anything, they've been naming 31 man sides for every team except the Thursday game
Ours was a 27-man squad (9 on interchange) but true nothing confirmed as yet. White, Grimes and Miller were three others also named on the extended bench.