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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: one-eyed on April 24, 2011, 07:37:00 PM
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Any after the win?
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Post in, Jacko out reported
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Jackson out for Batch and maybe Vickery for Browne. Not sure why Vicks was subbed, but I thought he was doing ok.
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Jackson hopefully gets 6 weeks. Some of the stuff he does with his disposal is dead set crap. I would have dropped him after todays effort, at least Hardwick doesnt need an excuse the tribunal will rub him out anyway.
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Jackson out for Batch and maybe Vickery for Browne. Not sure why Vicks was subbed, but I thought he was doing ok.
Batch was stiff being dropped this week. Perhaps he needed the rest. :-\
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lol. Just realised he was replaced by Tuck because of injury. I wondered how Tuck got into the team. :wallywink
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McGuane should be dropped as well. Thursfield to come back in.
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Tuck did nothing when he was subbed on. I would rather someone with pace and skills in the team rather than a pure ball winner. Jackson will definitely be missing for a few weeks replaced by Helbig. I would move Tuck out for Post if we're going for extra height and support in the ruck or Webberley if we're going for extra run. Nason did very little in this game too :-\ Could Morton or Connors come in for Jackson???
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Tuck did nothing when he was subbed on. I would rather someone with pace and skills in the team rather than a pure ball winner. Jackson will definitely be missing for a few weeks replaced by Helbig. I would move Tuck out for Post if we're going for extra height and support in the ruck or Webberley if we're going for extra run. Nason did very little in this game too :-\ Could Morton or Connors come in for Jackson???
Didn't he get something like 11 disposals in a quarter and a half? That's pretty good
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Out: Nason, Jackson, Vickery
In: Browne, Post, Helbig,
Edwards lucky to survive again IMO only pipped out by Nason who was shocking tonight
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Out: Nason, Jackson, Vickery
In: Browne, Post, Helbig,
Edwards lucky to survive again IMO only pipped out by Nason who was shocking tonight
McGuane will be lucky to survive IMHO. Really poor tonight.
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Out: Nason, Jackson, Vickery
In: Browne, Post, Helbig,
Edwards lucky to survive again IMO only pipped out by Nason who was shocking tonight
McGuane will be lucky to survive IMHO. Really poor tonight.
His spot is only saved by Moore being injured and after the thumping Coburg got today, i doubt Astbury will be brought in
Thursfield is no better for our future IMO. We have seen the best out of these 2 blokes, time to find others i.e Grimes
We shouldve tried harder to send Mcguane to GC, than we did. A very plain footballer, gives you nothing.
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Out: Nason, Jackson, Vickery
In: Browne, Post, Helbig,
Edwards lucky to survive again IMO only pipped out by Nason who was shocking tonight
McGuane will be lucky to survive IMHO. Really poor tonight.
His spot is only saved by Moore being injured and after the thumping Coburg got today, i doubt Astbury will be brought in
Thursfield is no better for our future IMO. We have seen the best out of these 2 blokes, time to find others i.e Grimes
We shouldve tried harder to send Mcguane to GC, than we did. A very plain footballer, gives you nothing.
Given Gold Coast got Bock, they didn't really need McGuane
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Tuck did nothing when he was subbed on. I would rather someone with pace and skills in the team rather than a pure ball winner.
You are kidding right? He did nothing? Yep that body work in the centre and then the handpass out to who was it Cotchin or Foley was nothing :-\
McGuane will be lucky to survive IMHO. Really poor tonight.
Disagree thought Luke was OK - he was shuffled around a fair bit on Hansen & Petrie
Edwards much better this week too
OUT: Vickery (terrible, pathetic acutally), Jackson (susp), Nason (very disappointing)
INS: Batchelor, Post, Helbig (shouldn't have been dropped)
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Like his endeavour but Nase is a rag doll
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Nason looked out of his depth. Would be interested in seeing how few stats he had, but I'd bet it was SFA.
Nason out for the next in line
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Like his endeavour but Nase is a rag doll
even at vfl level.
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Nason looked out of his depth. Would be interested in seeing how few stats he had, but I'd bet it was SFA.
Nason out for the next in line
Would have to agree, really thought he was going to step up this year, plenty of time left I suppose.
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Expect Tuck to be our sub for a while.
:thumbsup
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Players can't be permanent subs as they'll lose fitness and conditioning playing just a quarter or so. Tucky will stay in and come into the starting 21 with Jacko out reported.
Out: Jacko (susp.), Nason
In: Batchelor, Helbig ( or Morton might be a show as well)
A few lucky players will survive another week due to the win and because Coburg got thrashed.
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Out: Nason, Jackson, Vickery
In: Browne, Post, Helbig,
Edwards lucky to survive again IMO only pipped out by Nason who was shocking tonight
u have no idea
nason is safe, serviceable 1st game for the yr
post will never get a game until his attitude and hunger changes...fact
edwards had a good game
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hmm for me out jackson suspendid. nason did absolutely nothing. graham what an abysmal performance time to give browne or derickx a go if not both.
mcguane bloody hell why do we persevere with hacks like him how bad was he. and white 6 possesions for two weeks in a row and averageing just 9 for the season.
edwards didnt do much as well vickery was poor and has struggled all yr to get his hands on the ball.man take your pick.
would reward browne and drop graham what a hack in fact hes an embarrasament to the club. astbury for mcguane apparently he had a good game. post for vickery despite the postman having a quite one this week.
tuck the obvious one for jackson. would like to see dea get a game for nason.
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Mcgaune. Graham. Should go.
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Out: Jacko (susp.), Nason
In: Batchelor, Helbig ( or Morton might be a show as well)
Yep they'd be my changes too :thumbsup.... without the Morton bit. Don't care if he never gets another game. Lazy and undisciplined.
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Richmond will not be a top 8 side with Nason & Edwards getting significant game time.
Nason does not create enough goal scoring opp's or defensive pressure as a small forward.
Edwards as an outside running back does not have the consistency of performance or elite disposal to warrant the distributors role.
Move em on Craig.
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In:
Helbig. Batchelor. Dea. Astbury. Browne. Post. Webberly.
Out:
miller. Jackson. Mcgaune. White. Graham. Edwards. Nason.
Bit stiff on Marty white as he is passionate.
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yeah can see us making 7 changes after a win..
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+1. Tuck.
Newman. Rance. Grimes.
Batchelor. Post. Helbig.
Grigg. Deledio. Nahas.
Conca. Astbury. Dea.
Foley. Riewoldt. King.
Browne. Martin. Cotchin.
Vickery. Webberly. Houli.
Emg: orielly - derickx - contin.
Rich. Black. Rockliff. Redden vs our lot. I like the look of rained as a ruck rover. Dea to tag adcock. Browne/vickery vs lburger. Some needs to smash polec.
Not sure who gets first crack at Mitch clar. Rance. Grimes. Post. Even astbury.
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Tuck did nothing when he was subbed on. I would rather someone with pace and skills in the team rather than a pure ball winner.
You are kidding right? He did nothing? Yep that body work in the centre and then the handpass out to who was it Cotchin or Foley was nothing :-\
McGuane will be lucky to survive IMHO. Really poor tonight.
Disagree thought Luke was OK - he was shuffled around a fair bit on Hansen & Petrie
Edwards much better this week too
OUT: Vickery (terrible, pathetic acutally), Jackson (susp), Nason (very disappointing)
INS: Batchelor, , Helbig (shouldn't have been dropped)
agreed.
Tuck was a real presence and an experienced head in the last quarter.
Good subbing imo.
Well done Shane,
You played your role.
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I agree Tuck wont be a perm SUB but when you think about it he is he ideal Sub type. He can replace a mid, a tall foward or can even compete in the ruck a bit. I liked what he did when he come on, we didnt see to many of the up in the air turnovers.
Changes .Out Jacko (not sure how long for) In Batch or Helbig
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Tucky is a hard ball/contested machine - no doubt. But there is a reason why he has not been played up until now - he is not a great user of the ball, not a good decision maker and does not provide run and carry. We all love his strength around stoppages but if he hands it straight back to the opposition then it is a waste.
I agree that Tucky is an ideal sub to replace an injuries or underperforming player during the game but I don't think he is a great tactical choice. It seems most clubs are using their sub to add additional run into their exhausted side in the later portion of the game. Last night we won the game because North were dead on their feet. Against another, fitter side, I wonder if subbing on Tuck may have been been a tactical problem. ??? Tuck would be better used on the field early where he can win the contested ball and feed it out to our better ball users. The old Tucky 'slap the ball on the foot to gain ground without even looking' just doesn't cut the mustard any longer imho. Perhaps he could win the ball for us early in a game only to later make way for a better runner.
I think I've joined the Gus detractors after last nights efforts. I felt the coaches didn't do him any favours last night by leaving him one out as our only ruck option once Vickery was subbed off. Gus just doesn't have the endurance to run out a game. In every game I've seen this year he seems exhausted. Another problem for mine was his ruck work. He kept playing the man all night, jumping early and sometimes not even looking at the ball. When he did he did suprizingly well. Even around the ground he gave away far too many frees. Even the compentators were stating that if another option was avaiable Gus would not be playing. Even though he will be as raw as they come, either one of Browne or Derickx (if fit) should be given a go.
Nason looks out of his league - too slight and didn't provide any pace or run last night. Doesn't get into the right position to win the ball.
Jackson was stupid, plain and simple. Why he decided to throw his elbow back when the game was almost done is beyond me. Out for 4 weeks given his poor record.
For mine -
Out - Jackson, Nason, Gus
In - Helbig, Webberly, Browne
The biggest problem Jackson ommision will cause is the lack of an extra tagger. Both White and Jackson have been tagging at different stages this year so White will definitely tag someone next game (Black perhaps) but not to the same degree Jackson would have. If we need another player to do a shadow role on an oppsition player it start to hurt our attack meaning someone such as Grigg would need to undertake the role.
As bad as Gus has been the rest of the ruck options have been equally embarrassing so he will probably stay due to lack of choices rather than form. I'd love to see Browne get a game but it's a huge risk. Vickery would have to step up to support him far more than normal decreasing our forward options.
Helbig should be better for the run in Coburg despite the result. I never found out, how did he go individually?
I'm also choosing Webberley without knowing his Coburg form too. Has been good/bad/indifferent? I picked Webberely because I'm looking for run and foot skills that we could use as a sub.
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Get MCGuane out, far too slow in his decision making
And Nason, spent more time rolling around on the grass like a Pekingese with fleas than playing football
Jackson obviously
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Expect Tuck to be our sub for a while.
:thumbsup
Tuck is the pefect sub, was made for him.
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With Jackson about to lose some weeks, Tuck won't be a sub, which is good as you can't have someone as a permanent sub, they will lose match fitness
I do think he fits the role well though, as his lack of pace isn't an issue once the game has slowed down in the 2nd half
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spent more time rolling around on the grass like a Pekingese with fleas than playing football
I'm sure 65 enjoyed the moment
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felt sorry for Nason last night
The handball from Rance in the last quarter on the outer side was suicidal.
Nason to his credit took a big hit and was slammed into the ground.
He could of pulled out of the contest but didnt :thumbsup
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lol unlike some
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felt sorry for Nason last night
The handball from Rance in the last quarter on the outer side was suicidal.
Nason to his credit took a big hit and was slammed into the ground.
He could of pulled out of the contest but didnt :thumbsup
yeah that happened just in front of us - heard the whack = OUCHTucky is a hard ball/contested machine - no doubt. But there is a reason why he has not been played up until now - he is not a great user of the ball, not a good decision maker and does not provide run and carry. We all love his strength around stoppages but if he hands it straight back to the opposition then it is a waste.
yep you're right but I don't think the reason is his decision making or disposal. If that was the criteria, half our team wouldn't have been dropped by now
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felt sorry for Nason last night
The handball from Rance in the last quarter on the outer side was suicidal.
Nason to his credit took a big hit and was slammed into the ground.
He could of pulled out of the contest but didnt :thumbsup
yeah that happened just in front of us - heard the whack = OUCHTucky is a hard ball/contested machine - no doubt. But there is a reason why he has not been played up until now - he is not a great user of the ball, not a good decision maker and does not provide run and carry. We all love his strength around stoppages but if he hands it straight back to the opposition then it is a waste.
yep you're right but I don't think the reason is his decision making or disposal. If that was the criteria, half our team wouldn't have been dropped by now
the whack to Nason was frightening
The Mrs turned around and said, he just got killed.
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the whack to Nason was frightening
The Mrs tunred around and said, he just got killed.
i was half expecting him to get with his faces in pieces like last year when Jake King accidental whacked him
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Footy Show has our ins in the squad: Batchelor, Helbig, Astbury, Browne, Connors, Post
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felt sorry for Nason last night
The handball from Rance in the last quarter on the outer side was suicidal.
Nason to his credit took a big hit and was slammed into the ground.
He could of pulled out of the contest but didnt :thumbsup
yeah that happened just in front of us - heard the whack = OUCHTucky is a hard ball/contested machine - no doubt. But there is a reason why he has not been played up until now - he is not a great user of the ball, not a good decision maker and does not provide run and carry. We all love his strength around stoppages but if he hands it straight back to the opposition then it is a waste.
yep you're right but I don't think the reason is his decision making or disposal. If that was the criteria, half our team wouldn't have been dropped by now
:lol
Lack of pace to spread from a stoppage would be Tucky's main reason for not being picked in the first few rounds. He'll stay in this week with Jacko out. Both can't be in the same side every week if we are to improve.
Hopefully the footy show squad is right and Batch is back.
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In the Mix - Richmond
Daniel Jackson will miss the clash against the Brisbane Lions through suspension. Jake Batchelor (foot) was a late withdrawal from the side that defeated North Melbourne, but should be ready to return. Andrew Browne starred in a well-beaten Coburg side while Jeromey Webberley, Mitch Morton, David Astbury and Jayden Post are also in the mix. Daniel Connors and Will Thursfield picked up injuries in the VFL.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/112427/default.aspx
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yeah can see us making 7 changes after a win..
batchelor
helbig
astbury
browne
Connors
post
6 ins at this stage. Each f those players could be in our best side by thr end of thr year.
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Jon Anderson obviously didn't watch our game last week with Rance and McGuane playing ???
RICHMOND
INJURED: Tom Hislop (available), Kelvin Moore (test), Ben Griffiths (1-2 weeks), Daniel Connors (test), Ben Jakobi (2-3 weeks), Jamie O'Reilly (2-3 weeks), Jake Batchelor (indefinite)
SUSPENDED: Luke McGuane, Alex Rance, Daniel Jackson
ON THE BLOCK: Tyrone Vickery, Angus Graham
ON THE CUSP: Jeromey Webberley, Andrew Browne
ANDO’S FORECAST: Coach Hardwick says it’s all about development so expect to see Browne get a crack soon.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/footy-barometer-round-6/story-e6frf9jf-1226041482103
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felt sorry for Nason last night
The handball from Rance in the last quarter on the outer side was suicidal.
Nason to his credit took a big hit and was slammed into the ground.
He could of pulled out of the contest but didnt :thumbsup
yeah that happened just in front of us - heard the whack = OUCHTucky is a hard ball/contested machine - no doubt. But there is a reason why he has not been played up until now - he is not a great user of the ball, not a good decision maker and does not provide run and carry. We all love his strength around stoppages but if he hands it straight back to the opposition then it is a waste.
yep you're right but I don't think the reason is his decision making or disposal. If that was the criteria, half our team wouldn't have been dropped by now
:lol
Lack of pace to spread from a stoppage would be Tucky's main reason for not being picked in the first few rounds. He'll stay in this week with Jacko out. Both can't be in the same side every week if we are to improve.
Hopefully the footy show squad is right and Batch is back.
someone from the club recently said that after 5-6 rounds the pace of the game slows which suited tuck better so they were waiting to play him.
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That was Craig Cameron who said that.
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:cheers