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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: TigerLand on May 22, 2011, 11:45:19 PM

Title: Fire Sales
Post by: TigerLand on May 22, 2011, 11:45:19 PM
To be had at Western Bulldogs, St.Kilda.

Unfortunately we are probably to far away from a position to take advantage of some exodus' from these clubs that will look to rebuild. But worth looking at.

Some middle aged players would be tempted to leave their club to a club like ours who shows promise of building towards a long finals window whilst their clubs will be falling to the bottom 4 looking for draft picks.

Someone like Carlton are probably primed to do so, picking up maybe a player like Kossi for nothing (worth that anyway) or a Brian Lake who is doubtful to have a future at W.B after years of being a whipping boy.

Do we stay on our path of grooming our own? Most definetly but you have to have a look and see if their is a bargain on the trade table. Lake will be 29 next year. Probably just too old for us.

Anyone worth taking from these clubs to help our cause, that is likely to want to leave? Would love a Sam Fisher (29 next year though)
Title: Re: Fire Sales
Post by: 10 FLAGS on May 22, 2011, 11:59:06 PM
Looked at their lists and couldnt find one player who we should chase with any purpose.
Title: Re: Fire Sales
Post by: Coach on May 23, 2011, 12:03:19 AM
Dean Polo went fairly well on the weekend, worth a look maybe? Only 24.

Title: Re: Fire Sales
Post by: gerkin greg on May 23, 2011, 12:05:27 AM
and we could get him for a can of jim beam and a bacardi breezer
Title: Re: Fire Sales
Post by: Danog on May 23, 2011, 02:19:42 AM
Griffen from Dogs?  Free agency.  Proven to be a gun finals player.
Title: Re: Fire Sales
Post by: TigerLand on May 23, 2011, 03:13:11 AM
I'd take Callum Ward
Title: Re: Fire Sales
Post by: WilliamPowell on May 23, 2011, 07:10:26 AM
I'd take Callum Ward

Agree - He's the gun who we could have had with that PICK we traded  :rollin

Title: Re: Fire Sales
Post by: Danog on May 23, 2011, 12:09:50 PM
I'd take Callum Ward

Agree - He's the gun who we could have had with that PICK we traded  :rollin
Reason I said Griff is that we could get him for "free" since he's part of the first batch of players (2004 draft) that are eligible for free agency at the end of 2012.
Title: Re: Fire Sales
Post by: WilliamPowell on May 23, 2011, 12:29:18 PM
I'd take Callum Ward

Agree - He's the gun who we could have had with that PICK we traded  :rollin
Reason I said Griff is that we could get him for "free" since he's part of the first batch of players (2004 draft) that are eligible for free agency at the end of 2012.

I don't rate Griffen that highly - goes missing abit when the Dogs are really struggling

But have to say I rate him higher than Cooney
Title: Re: Fire Sales
Post by: cub on May 23, 2011, 01:17:27 PM
I pointed out last year how quick things can change, most would of hung drawn and qtrd this topic this time last year.
NOW? Not much you'd really take hey!

Lets have a realo close look.

Bulldogs

Boyd - Too old
Griffen - Have enough of that type and would stick with ours thanks.
Higgins - Reckon we could slot him in somewhere
Ward - Had a game against us but watch it man he was unchecked most of the time, back to earth with a thud this week, maybe could help Coburg out  ;D

 That's all really, they are an evenly balanced side gaining in the Tooth poor doggies NOT

Saints

Jacks Cousin - No matter how much I hate him imagine him and Jack together YEP
Goddard - Not as great as everyone makes out but would fit in very nicely in our back half YEP
Fisher - Solid backman which we are screaming for probs just a touch too old
Montagna - Kinda an up market of Griffen where I would stick with ours could replace whitey ( But I really like whiteys' hardness and passion atm ) so no.

Higgins
Jacks Cousin
Goddard

maybe Ward/Monagna

McEvoy ?????
Title: Re: Fire Sales
Post by: Infamy on May 23, 2011, 01:32:10 PM
Bulldogs

Boyd - Too old
Griffen - Have enough of that type and would stick with ours thanks.
Higgins - Reckon we could slot him in somewhere
Ward - Had a game against us but watch it man he was unchecked most of the time, back to earth with a thud this week, maybe could help Coburg out  ;D

Saints

Jacks Cousin - No matter how much I hate him imagine him and Jack together YEP
Goddard - Not as great as everyone makes out but would fit in very nicely in our back half YEP
Fisher - Solid backman which we are screaming for probs just a touch too old
Montagna - Kinda an up market of Griffen where I would stick with ours could replace whitey ( But I really like whiteys' hardness and passion atm ) so no.
Griffen - Free agency perhaps but wouldn't want to pay too much
Higgins - Yes, if he could stay fit
Ward - Yes
Nick R - Too old
Goddard - Too old
Fisher - Too old
Montagna - maybe, but wouldn't throw the farm at another midfielder of his age
Title: Re: Fire Sales
Post by: JVT on May 23, 2011, 02:14:35 PM
Higgins plays 7 games a season. Skill is there, consistency no way near it, his body is poo.

I'd take a look at Armitage from the Saints, think he is a little underrated, playing that Lenny Hayes role nicely at the moment for them.
Title: Re: Fire Sales
Post by: gerkin greg on May 23, 2011, 02:19:34 PM
What about the dogs young ruck Roughhead? What's happened to him? He looked like a decent prospect pre-draft and played a couple of good games at senior level if IIRC. Injured? Out of favour? Potato scrote?
Title: Re: Fire Sales
Post by: Danog on May 23, 2011, 02:25:15 PM
I'd take Callum Ward

Agree - He's the gun who we could have had with that PICK we traded  :rollin
Reason I said Griff is that we could get him for "free" since he's part of the first batch of players (2004 draft) that are eligible for free agency at the end of 2012.

I don't rate Griffen that highly - goes missing abit when the Dogs are really struggling

But have to say I rate him higher than Cooney
He's been a gun in EVERY final that the Bulldogs have played.  Literally close to BoG every time.
Title: Re: Fire Sales
Post by: WilliamPowell on May 23, 2011, 02:41:24 PM
He's been a gun in EVERY final that the Bulldogs have played.  Literally close to BoG every time.

Certainly wasn't a gun yesterday - things got tough he went missing again  ;D

Great to be good in finals but you need to be able to stand up for 22 rounds, in tough times and help get your team there
Title: Re: Fire Sales
Post by: Danog on May 23, 2011, 03:28:24 PM
He's been a gun in EVERY final that the Bulldogs have played.  Literally close to BoG every time.

Certainly wasn't a gun yesterday - things got tough he went missing again  ;D

Great to be good in finals but you need to be able to stand up for 22 rounds, in tough times and help get your team there
We see many good H&A players go completely missing in finals.  Would be good to get a proven finals performer.
Title: Re: Fire Sales
Post by: cub on June 11, 2011, 03:15:41 AM
Ward averaging 15 possies in the last 4 games - Hardly a superstar performer
Title: Re: Fire Sales
Post by: tony_montana on June 11, 2011, 04:45:21 AM
Ward averaging 15 possies in the last 4 games - Hardly a superstar performer

disposal suspect at best!

griffen yes please would pay him his quota too if he was for free. gun - one of the best line breakers in the game
Title: Re: Fire Sales
Post by: WilliamPowell on June 11, 2011, 09:44:32 AM
griffen yes please would pay him his quota too if he was for free. gun - one of the best line breakers in the game

Wnet missing again. Missed a crucial goal and to think they could have had Buddy but chose Griffen  ;D
Title: Re: Fire Sales
Post by: torch on June 11, 2011, 11:54:02 AM
Higgins, Ward i would enquire about. Higgins is a classy half forward that we need and is what Mitch Morton should of been. Ward is tough and a midfield, wing position.
Title: Re: Fire Sales
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on June 11, 2011, 12:09:11 PM
Would not touch Griffen. Downhill skier, have not seen a game where he has single handedly either kept the Dogs in it or been the difference between winning and losing. He is just a contributor or for the most part non contributor. Under pressure goes missing I still remember the drawn game we had with the Dogs in 08 and that tackle by Lids I think it was in the last quarter. Dropped his head after that at a critical time. Unimpressive.

We need RFC fans to flood talk back on radio after Dogs games and criticise the Doggies on getting Griffen and not Buddy to the point where they start writing it in articles and stick the boot in. Can you imagine we were the ones falling on grace and what they would be writing. :-\

Title: Re: Fire Sales
Post by: Mr Magic on June 11, 2011, 09:59:08 PM

We need RFC fans to flood talk back on radio after Dogs games and criticise the Doggies on getting Griffen and not Buddy to the point where they start writing it in articles and stick the boot in. Can you imagine we were the ones falling on grace and what they would be writing. :-\


Griffen has escaped an amazing amount of criticism compared to Tambling.
Should cope far more considering he went higher in the draft.
Title: Re: Fire Sales
Post by: tony_montana on June 12, 2011, 12:53:11 AM
no offence but u guys need to watch more bulldogs games, griff is easily their most damaging player. Ward=suspect disposal, higgins=nancy boy
Title: Re: Fire Sales
Post by: the claw on June 12, 2011, 03:43:02 PM
no offence but u guys need to watch more bulldogs games, griff is easily their most damaging player. Ward=suspect disposal, higgins=nancy boy
agree griffen has been every bit as good as deledio has been for us. both have performed very similar roles for their sides and in basic stats they are very similar.

this thread is typical of our supporters underrating opposition players while putting our players on pedestals.

its funny no one wants goddard at age 25 bloody hell griffens not good enough fisher is too old no one likes lake  hes too old as well.

we dont have a spine we have a few decent mids we dont have any decent rucks we are devoid of leadership and experience lack size and structure and people wouldnt touch these players in a fire sale.

id take any of those players in a heart beat and many others as well.