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Title: Contracts
Post by: torch on August 16, 2011, 08:58:04 PM
Contracts List:

2011: Astbury, Browne, Dea, Farmer, Griffiths, Jackson, King, Morton, Nahas, Nason, Newman, Rance, Taylor, Thursfield, Webberley

2012: Batchelor, Connors, Deledio, Derickx, Edwards, Foley, Gourdis, Graham, Houli, MacDonald, McGuane, Moore, Post, Tuck, Vickery, White

2013: Conca, Cotchin, Grigg, Grimes, Helbig, Martin, Riewoldt

Thanks to OE, MT and WP ...

What changes will be made?
Title: Re: Contracts
Post by: bojangles17 on August 16, 2011, 09:07:50 PM
i dont think rance is out of contract, thought he signed a 3yr deal prior to dimma coming on borard that would mean he's 2 years in
Title: Re: Contracts
Post by: Coach on August 16, 2011, 09:10:01 PM
LMAO. "Craig Cameron is doing a great job" :lol Look at some of the blokes contracted for 2012 and LMAO at Grigg getting a 3 year contract before he'd even kicked a ball for us
Title: Re: Contracts
Post by: torch on August 16, 2011, 09:22:46 PM
2011: Astbury, Browne, Dea, Farmer, Griffiths, Jackson, King, Morton, Nahas, Nason, Newman, Rance, Taylor, Thursfield, Webberley

2012: Batchelor, Connors, Deledio, Derickx, Edwards, Foley, Gourdis, Graham, Houli, MacDonald, McGuane, Moore, Post, Tuck, Vickery, White

2013: Conca, Cotchin, Grigg, Grimes, Helbig, Martin, Riewoldt

Delist/Trade: Browne, Farmer, Jackson, Nason, Taylor, Webberley, Edwards, McGuane

8 players off the senior list.

Extend Deledio contract by two years worth two players contracts ... say $750,000 - $850,000 per year to keep him at Richmond.

Draft 6 NEW players ... 4 from National Draft and 2 from Trade Week.

Jackson ---> West Sydney FOR 4th Round Pick.
Edwards and West Sydney's 4th Round Pick ---> Port Adelaide FOR Jackson Trengove.
McGuane ---> West Sydney FOR 4th Round Pick.
Farmer, Nason and West Sydney FOR 4th Round Pick ---> Fremantle FOR Zac Clarke.



Title: Re: Contracts
Post by: bojangles17 on August 16, 2011, 09:53:37 PM
LMAO. "Craig Cameron is doing a great job" :lol Look at some of the blokes contracted for 2012 and LMAO at Grigg getting a 3 year contract before he'd even kicked a ball for us

yeah, like it would have been a successful negoitation chip trying to lure him from Carlton a 12 month deal, guess who would have laughed at that :lol
Title: Re: Contracts
Post by: Coach on August 16, 2011, 10:05:44 PM
How about a 2 year deal champ (Houli seemed okay with one and he is twice the player that Grigg is)? He wasn't getting a gig at Carlton and who were the other clubs knocking down the door for him?? Yep, bet you were on the McMahon 3 year deal bandwagon as well :lol 330k to sit at Coburg in his 3rd season here ;D
Title: Re: Contracts
Post by: Francois Jackson on August 16, 2011, 10:12:10 PM
LMAO. "Craig Cameron is doing a great job" :lol Look at some of the blokes contracted for 2012 and LMAO at Grigg getting a 3 year contract before he'd even kicked a ball for us

even more scary is how Mcguane is still contracted for another year. Which would mean he was given a 3 year contract. WTF

Cameron you are a disgrace go back to Melbourne
Title: Re: Contracts
Post by: Coach on August 16, 2011, 10:13:42 PM
He was...and at the bargain price of 450k per season apparently
Title: Re: Contracts
Post by: tony_montana on August 16, 2011, 11:17:35 PM
He was...and at the bargain price of 450k per season apparently

correct

incompetent fool
Title: Re: Contracts
Post by: WilliamPowell on August 17, 2011, 07:09:52 AM
i dont think rance is out of contract, thought he signed a 3yr deal prior to dimma coming on borard that would mean he's 2 years in

Is out of contract

Currnet deal was only for 2 years - expires this season

Will be staying  :thumbsup
Title: Re: Contracts
Post by: Penelope on August 17, 2011, 07:41:06 AM
so cameron, and cameron alone, makes decisions on who, how much and how long for contracts?
Title: Re: Contracts
Post by: Fluffy Tiger on August 17, 2011, 08:01:46 AM
Contracts List:

2011: Astbury, Browne, Dea, Farmer, Griffiths, Jackson, King, Morton, Nahas, Nason, Newman, Rance, Taylor, Thursfield, Webberley

2012: Batchelor, Connors, Deledio, Derickx, Edwards, Foley, Gourdis, Graham, Houli, MacDonald, McGuane, Moore, Post, Tuck, Vickery, White

2013: Conca, Cotchin, Grigg, Grimes, Helbig, Martin, Riewoldt

Thanks to OE, MT and WP ...

What changes will be made?

Would be nice if we could swap SOME of the 2011 and 2012 ones around, would speed up the rubuild. Means we have to be cleaver this trade period to cut the deadwood.
Title: Re: Contracts
Post by: tony_montana on August 17, 2011, 09:45:09 AM
so cameron, and cameron alone, makes decisions on who, how much and how long for contracts?

Pretty much, he is the director of football/list manager and the final decision is his
Title: Re: Contracts
Post by: Fluffy Tiger on August 17, 2011, 02:04:36 PM
Been thinking about this and I dont see as many changes to our list as I hoped given the Contracts we have. Here is my take on what will happen from this list
with those that dont have contract past this year

2011: Astbury   -  2 year Ext
         Browne   -  1 year Ext
         Dea        -  1 year Ext
         Farmer    -  delist, trade
         Griffiths   -  2 year Ext,
         Jackson   -  Trade
         King        -  1 year Ext
         Morton    -  delist, trade
         Nahas     -  1 year Ext
         Nason     -  delist
         Newman  -  2 year Ext
         Rance     -  2 year Ext
         Taylor     - delist
         Thursfield - delist, trade
         Webberley - delist,trade
       
Ok your take on being the list manager for this bunch??
Title: Re: Contracts
Post by: 1965 on August 17, 2011, 05:21:54 PM
Been thinking about this and I dont see as many changes to our list as I hoped given the Contracts we have. Here is my take on what will happen from this list
with those that dont have contract past this year

2011: Astbury   -  2 year Ext
         Browne   -  1 year Ext
         Dea        -  1 year Ext
         Farmer    -  delist, trade
         Griffiths   -  2 year Ext,
         Jackson   -  Trade
         King        -  1 year Ext
         Morton    -  delist, trade
         Nahas     -  1 year Ext
         Nason     -  delist
         Newman  -  2 year Ext
         Rance     -  2 year Ext
         Taylor     - delist
         Thursfield - delist, trade
         Webberley - delist,trade
       
Ok your take on being the list manager for this bunch??

Thursty a keeper.  :thumbsup
Title: Re: Contracts
Post by: Fluffy Tiger on August 18, 2011, 01:35:40 PM
Been thinking about this and I dont see as many changes to our list as I hoped given the Contracts we have. Here is my take on what will happen from this list
with those that dont have contract past this year

2011: Astbury   -  2 year Ext
         Browne   -  1 year Ext
         Dea        -  1 year Ext
         Farmer    -  delist, trade
         Griffiths   -  2 year Ext,
         Jackson   -  Trade
         King        -  1 year Ext
         Morton    -  delist, trade
         Nahas     -  1 year Ext
         Nason     -  delist
         Newman  -  2 year Ext
         Rance     -  2 year Ext
         Taylor     - delist
         Thursfield - delist, trade
         Webberley - delist,trade
       
Ok your take on being the list manager for this bunch??

Thursty a keeper.  :thumbsup

You Might be right but I cant see how we are going to turn over the 10 that people are spruking given the contract situtation.
Title: Re: Contracts
Post by: mightytiges on August 19, 2011, 12:09:07 AM
Been thinking about this and I dont see as many changes to our list as I hoped given the Contracts we have. Here is my take on what will happen from this list
with those that dont have contract past this year

2011: Astbury   -  2 year Ext
         Browne   -  1 year Ext
         Dea        -  1 year Ext
         Farmer    -  delist, trade
         Griffiths   -  2 year Ext,
         Jackson   -  Trade
         King        -  1 year Ext
         Morton    -  delist, trade
         Nahas     -  1 year Ext
         Nason     -  delist
         Newman  -  2 year Ext
         Rance     -  2 year Ext
         Taylor     - delist
         Thursfield - delist, trade
         Webberley - delist,trade
       
Ok your take on being the list manager for this bunch??
I don't disagree with much of that Fluffy but I don't think most players unless they are desperate will re-sign for just 1 year. It'll be more like 2 years performance based.

2011: Astbury   -  2 year Ext
         Browne   -  2 year Ext performance based ...... still young for a big ruckman at 21 and we can't get rid of both Gus and Browne. Gus goes for mine.
         Dea        -  2 year Ext performance based....... only 19 so the Club will persist with him.
         Farmer    -  delist, trade
         Griffiths   -  2 year Ext
         Jackson   -  Trade
         King        -  delist, trade ...... after a bright start as a small forward he's done nothing for two months. Gawn!
         Morton    -  delist, trade
         Nahas     -  2 year Ext ...... Out of him and Kingy to go so Robbie stays. Provides more impact to the side.
         Nason     -  delist
         Newman  -  2 year Ext
         Rance     -  2 year Ext
         Taylor     - delist
         Thursfield - delist, trade  ...... nb. Keep as back-up if we can trade McGaune.
         Webberley - delist,trade


Delist:  Farmer, Morton, Taylor, Nason, Webberley
Trade: Jackson, King (not worth much as a trade)
One of Thursty/McGuane also to go.
I can also see us trading one of Edwards or Connors in a similar trade to Collo last year.
Rookies cut: Miller, Hislop, Westhoff, Jakobi, Hicks.

With GWS hogging the draft there's probably too many there to cut as far as the senior list unless we do well during trade week. So the 5 delistings cover 4 National draft picks plus one PSD pick. More picks/players to come via the trades.
Title: Re: Contracts
Post by: WilliamPowell on August 19, 2011, 06:57:56 AM
Is this Farmer's 2nd or 3rd year?
Title: Re: Contracts
Post by: one-eyed on August 19, 2011, 03:00:04 PM
Is this Farmer's 2nd or 3rd year?
His 2nd year WP.
Title: Re: Contracts
Post by: WilliamPowell on August 19, 2011, 03:37:32 PM
Is this Farmer's 2nd or 3rd year?
His 2nd year WP.

Hmmmm I thought he was given 3 year contract when we got him  :-\
Title: Re: Contracts
Post by: Coach on August 19, 2011, 05:13:51 PM
If he was then Craig Cameron and anyone else responsible should be shot dead. A 3 year contract for a bloke that played about 15 games of SANFL twos the year we got him? Oh my stuffing god.
Title: Re: Contracts
Post by: big tone on August 20, 2011, 12:29:05 PM
Pretty easy for me
2011: Astbury, Browne, Dea, Farmer, Griffiths, Jackson, King, Morton, Nahas, Nason, Newman, Rance, Taylor, Thursfield, Webberley

2012: Batchelor, Connors, Deledio, Derickx, Edwards, Foley, Gourdis, Graham, Houli, MacDonald, McGuane, Moore, Post, Tuck, Vickery, White

2013: Conca, Cotchin, Grigg, Grimes, Helbig, Martin, Riewoldt

Would also put Browne back on the rookie list, and keep Graham for one more year and hope Derickx comes on. But most importantly trade for another ruckman. (Griffin, Hampson, Marik) Trade bait would be Jackson, Foley or Edwards

So with either trade or delistment. at least 6 maybe 7 go.
Title: Re: Contracts
Post by: Jackstar is back again on August 20, 2011, 12:37:28 PM
keep Thursfield,agree with the rest
Title: Re: Contracts
Post by: big tone on August 20, 2011, 12:48:41 PM
keep Thursfield,agree with the rest
Yer, sort of agree on Thursfield, either way i wouldn't be to disappointed. Shown a little in the last month.  :thumbsup
Title: Re: Contracts
Post by: MintOnLamb on August 23, 2011, 01:37:57 PM
Players contracts coming up
2011: Astbury, Browne, Dea, Farmer, Griffiths, Jackson, King, Morton, Nahas, Nason, Newman, Rance, Taylor, Thursfield, Webberley
2012: Batchelor, Connors, Deledio, Derickx, Edwards, Foley, Gourdis, Graham, Houli, MacDonald, McGuane, Moore, Post, Tuck, Vickery, White
2013: Conca, Cotchin, Grigg, Grimes, Helbig, Martin, Riewoldt
I would think Tuck is added to the 2011 list now he has not played the minimum number of games on his contract.
I am just a Rookie myself but I guess all 2011 players are up for renewal to continue playing for RFC.
So we have 16 players who will be uncontracted at the end of the season.
I know we still have 2 games to get excited about but who would NOT be getting renewed in the opinion of this forum??
I am picking as certain renews :Astbury, Dea, Griffiths, Nahas, Rance, Newman
Likely renews:King, Thursfield, Jackson
Swingers: Jackson, Browne, Morton
Not Renewed: Farmer, Taylor, Nason, Tuck
Personally I would like Tuck in for sure.
Title: Re: Contracts
Post by: tiger101 on August 23, 2011, 01:45:30 PM
Players contracts coming up
2011: Astbury, Browne, Dea, Farmer, Griffiths, Jackson, King, Morton, Nahas, Nason, Newman, Rance, Taylor, Thursfield, Webberley
2012: Batchelor, Connors, Deledio, Derickx, Edwards, Foley, Gourdis, Graham, Houli, MacDonald, McGuane, Moore, Post, Tuck, Vickery, White
2013: Conca, Cotchin, Grigg, Grimes, Helbig, Martin, Riewoldt
I would think Tuck is added to the 2011 list now he has not played the minimum number of games on his contract.
I am just a Rookie myself but I guess all 2011 players are up for renewal to continue playing for RFC.
So we have 16 players who will be uncontracted at the end of the season.
I know we still have 2 games to get excited about but who would NOT be getting renewed in the opinion of this forum??
I am picking as certain renews :Astbury, Dea, Griffiths, Nahas, Rance, Newman
Likely renews:King, Thursfield, Jackson
Swingers: Jackson, Browne, Morton
Not Renewed: Farmer, Taylor, Nason, Tuck
Personally I would like Tuck in for sure.


There's already a thread on this topic
http://oneeyed-richmond.com/forum/index.php?topic=13904.0

I thought this was more of an announcement thread of contracts? I could be wrong though check with OER.
Title: Re: Contracts
Post by: MintOnLamb on August 23, 2011, 02:45:25 PM
Thanks for that
Title: Re: Contracts
Post by: MintOnLamb on August 23, 2011, 02:51:34 PM
I think Thirsty is going pretty well. How will backline stack up when Newman comes back in, release delidio further upfield if Thirsty stays in.
I think Thirsty's height is good and he seems to be moving well.
I would be hesitant to let him go, remember he was to move last year but no one picked him up. Maybe he is happier now as he seems to be performing better.
A keeper I think and we need  McGuane to be gone. He is a list clogger.
Title: Re: Contracts
Post by: Mr Magic on August 23, 2011, 05:43:37 PM
Thursty a keeper.  :thumbsup

Making a late run but I expect him gone.
Title: Re: Contracts
Post by: tigs2011 on August 24, 2011, 12:24:41 AM
Thursty a keeper.  :thumbsup

Making a late run but I expect him gone.

I think Thursty will be kept.

Farmer, Nason, Webberley, Taylor will be delisted.

Graham a possibility to be traded i would think. (mid-late 3rd round)

Maric traded in for 3rd rounder.

Draft 2 mids first 2 rounds. Tipungwuti the little crumbing forward we need and save a pick for PSD and push someone in there like we did Houli or have a trial run at Punt Road and draft the best one like we did Grimes. Both tactics appear successful.
Title: Re: Contracts
Post by: 10 FLAGS on August 24, 2011, 08:06:58 AM
I like Tyson and Ellis for our first 2 picks but unsure if they will last at our picks.
Title: Re: Contracts
Post by: MintOnLamb on August 24, 2011, 09:49:58 AM
Played golf in the W/e, spoke to a bloke who has a lot of inside goss on Adelaid/Maric, evidently he is prone to make bad decisions, his games are hot and cold, has no consistent form and they are happy to get rid of him. Sounds like a dud to me.
Title: Re: Contracts
Post by: WilliamPowell on August 24, 2011, 10:46:20 AM
In what I can only described as fantastic news for us

It's official Jackson Trengove has re-sigend with Port  :clapping :clapping


Trengove re-signs with Port Adelaide Adelaide
August 24, 2011 - 10:38AM
.

Emerging key defender Jackson Trengove has signed a new contract with AFL strugglers Port Adelaide.

The Victorian-born Trengove shunned lucrative offers to return to Melbourne in favour of remaining at Port.

Trengove, a 20-year-old already in the Power's leadership group, believed Port had a promising future despite being anchored on the bottom of the ladder this season.

"Obviously we have got a lot of work to do and we're the first to admit that," Trengove told reporters on Wednesday.

"I'll put my hand up to lead the charge of that over the next couple of years and really work hard to put this football club back to where we belong, which is up to the top."

Trengove refused to specify the length of his new contract, saying it was "long enough".

AAP

http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/trengove-resigns-with-port-adelaide-20110824-1j93y.html
Title: Re: Contracts
Post by: Owl on August 24, 2011, 11:31:32 AM
What lucrative offers?  I thought you were not allowed to approach players during the season?
Title: Re: Contracts
Post by: Francois Jackson on August 24, 2011, 11:33:55 AM
Thank you Trengrove, thank you

Port Adelaide need a ruckman forward utility more than we do.

Good luck son glad your not at Punt Road
Title: Re: Contracts
Post by: MintOnLamb on August 24, 2011, 11:52:15 AM
concur
Title: Re: Contracts
Post by: 10 FLAGS on August 24, 2011, 12:07:10 PM
Thank you Trengrove, thank you

Port Adelaide need a ruckman forward utility more than we do.

Good luck son glad your not at Punt Road

thats not very nice daniel  ;D sadly however I have to also concur  :lol
Title: Re: Contracts
Post by: WilliamPowell on August 24, 2011, 01:42:48 PM
concur x 2  ;D
Title: Re: Contracts
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on August 24, 2011, 02:36:12 PM
concur x3 :thumbsup
Title: Re: Contracts
Post by: 10 FLAGS on August 24, 2011, 06:11:33 PM
theres alot of concurring in this thread - oer one big happy family  ;D :lol
Title: Re: Contracts
Post by: WilliamPowell on August 24, 2011, 06:53:56 PM
theres alot of concurring in this thread - oer one big happy family  ;D :lol

I concur  :thumbsup
Title: Re: Contracts
Post by: Dubstep Dookie on August 24, 2011, 07:33:54 PM
I'm down with it (I concur)
Title: Re: Contracts
Post by: Owl on August 25, 2011, 08:48:56 AM
D'accord
I just wanted to use some French and be all cool and sheet.  I don't actually have an opinion one way or another.
Title: Re: Contracts
Post by: 1965 on August 25, 2011, 09:38:40 AM


Latin would have been cooler.

Latin is the new black.

 :thumbsup
Title: Re: Contracts
Post by: MintOnLamb on August 25, 2011, 10:21:33 AM
Thanks for the tip.
I believe Latin translation is concurrunt

Just listening to SEN and someone rang up asking if Andy Collins would be able to come back to Richmond, Tigers are chasing Butcher, Sam Mitchell is going to GWS

What a load of ruderi
Title: Re: Contracts
Post by: tiger101 on August 25, 2011, 11:17:13 AM
I think Butcher will stay at Port. Yes they look in trouble but they did draft him and only after 2 games due to injury I can't see him ditching them.
Title: Re: Contracts
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on August 25, 2011, 04:00:06 PM
I think Butcher will stay at Port. Yes they look in trouble but they did draft him and only after 2 games due to injury I can't see him ditching them.

I wouldn't think so either. However if the kid was homesick b/c he was not playing until recently his want to go back may have slipped under the radar. This kid injury free will be very good for whoever he plays for. Tigermonk was on the money with this kid. Injuries may have forced him down to pick 8. Was very impressive on Sunday.
Nevertheless I'm not disappointed we picked up Martin. We have Griff who has shown signs also.