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Title: Emma Quayle's Guide to the 2011 AFL draft - RICHMOND (Age)
Post by: one-eyed on November 19, 2011, 01:59:40 AM
Guide to the 2011 AFL draft - RICHMOND

    By Emma Quayle
     The Age
     November 19, 2011


In: Ivan Maric, Steve Morris

Out: Mitch Farmer, Mitch Morton, Ben Nason, Troy Taylor, Will Thursfield

Draft picks: 15, 26, 55

DEPTH CHARTS

TALL FORWARDS

Jack Riewoldt

Tyrone Vickery (a)

Ben Griffiths

Brad Miller (rookie) (v)

TALL DEFENDERS

Alex Rance

David Astbury

Dylan Grimes

Luke McGuane

Kelvin Moore

Jayden Post (a)

David Gourdis

SMALL/MEDIUM FORWARDS

Robin Nahas

Jake King

Dean MacDonald

SMALL/MEDIUM DEFENDERS

Chris Newman

Jake Batchelor

Daniel Connors (a)

Matt Dea

Jeromey Webberley

Steve Morris

MIDFIELDERS

Trent Cotchin

Dustin Martin

Brett Deledio (a)

Daniel Jackson

Reece Conca

Nathan Foley

Shaun Grigg (a)

Bachar Houli (a)

Shane Edwards

Brad Helbig

Matt White

Shane Tuck

RUCKS

Ivan Maric

Angus Graham

Andrew Browne

Tom Derickx

DRAFT NEEDS

Class, class, class. The Tigers have built up plenty of big bodies in defence, and will look better if they can get Astbury and Grimes going at the same time next year, but their back line still needs a bit of work. In particular, I'd be looking for players who can thread the ball through traffic when moving out of defence, hit targets and help the Tigers get the ball into the hands of their most damaging onballers. The good news is that there should be some genuine options available in this area come their first pick: Sam Docherty, Brandon Ellis and Brad McKenzie are three worth looking at. McKenzie is a smart, quite versatile player who might end up pushing through the midfield in time. He could even be on the table when they come to their second pick. A pacy midfielder could complement Cotchin, Martin, Conca, Helbig and others, and it could also be worth getting in another classy half-forward. Morton's gone, Taylor didn't work out, and without them the Tigers don't really have any true lead-up options, someone who can push up, cover ground and help them get the ball through to Riewoldt. With Vickery starting to emerge as Jack's sidekick and a powerful presence deep in the forward line, someone who could do that would make their forward line that little bit tougher to match up on. There aren't many of this type of player around, but Daniel Markworth may be available at their first pick and the taller Todd Elton is another player they've put some work into.

http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/guide-to-the-2011-afl-draft-20111118-1nnaf.html#ixzz1e4LJiEHY
Title: Re: Emma Quayle's Guide to the 2011 AFL draft - RICHMOND (Age)
Post by: georgies31 on November 19, 2011, 03:18:07 AM
We have been linked to Todd Elton a fair bit and he sounds like a super talent .My bet I would say pick 26 it could be.
Title: Re: Emma Quayle's Guide to the 2011 AFL draft - RICHMOND (Age)
Post by: MADTIGER2010 on November 19, 2011, 06:56:45 AM
What's the (a) stand for?
Title: Re: Emma Quayle's Guide to the 2011 AFL draft - RICHMOND (Age)
Post by: Penelope on November 19, 2011, 07:33:20 AM
was wondering the same thing
Title: Re: Emma Quayle's Guide to the 2011 AFL draft - RICHMOND (Age)
Post by: elliot on November 19, 2011, 08:16:15 AM
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emmasq Emma Quayle :
Here's my list assessment/draft guide. (a) is an adaptable player and (v) turns 28 or older in next year.

from her twitter.
Title: Re: Emma Quayle's Guide to the 2011 AFL draft - RICHMOND (Age)
Post by: Penelope on November 19, 2011, 08:41:37 AM
cheers elliot
Title: Re: Emma Quayle's Guide to the 2011 AFL draft - RICHMOND (Age)
Post by: bojangles17 on November 19, 2011, 08:53:00 AM
was wondering the same thing

me too what the heck does it mean :o
Title: Re: Emma Quayle's Guide to the 2011 AFL draft - RICHMOND (Age)
Post by: mightytiges on November 19, 2011, 03:53:52 PM
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MIDFIELDERS

Trent Cotchin
Dustin Martin
Brett Deledio (a)
Daniel Jackson
Reece Conca
Nathan Foley
Shaun Grigg (a)
Bachar Houli (a)
Shane Edwards
Brad Helbig
Matt White
Shane Tuck

DRAFT NEEDS

Class, class, class.
Emma is spot on. We severely lack class outside our top half-dozen or so.
Title: Re: Emma Quayle's Guide to the 2011 AFL draft - RICHMOND (Age)
Post by: tigs2011 on November 19, 2011, 04:37:59 PM
Her midfield depth chart is fair way off. Foley>Jackson and currently Conca. Quite bizarre really.
Title: Re: Emma Quayle's Guide to the 2011 AFL draft - RICHMOND (Age)
Post by: Ox on November 19, 2011, 05:23:08 PM
chicks telling us about footy.......... ;D
Title: Re: Emma Quayle's Guide to the 2011 AFL draft - RICHMOND (Age)
Post by: WA Tiger on November 19, 2011, 08:29:52 PM
chicks telling us about footy.......... ;D

Just like commentating it..... :-\
Title: Re: Emma Quayle's Guide to the 2011 AFL draft - RICHMOND (Age)
Post by: Coach on November 19, 2011, 08:31:16 PM
chicks telling us about footy.......... ;D

;D
Title: Re: Emma Quayle's Guide to the 2011 AFL draft - RICHMOND (Age)
Post by: The Big Richo on November 19, 2011, 11:02:19 PM
Careful there fellas, can lead to all hell breaking loose.  :shh

On another note I think Emma Quayle is smoking hot.
Title: Re: Emma Quayle's Guide to the 2011 AFL draft - RICHMOND (Age)
Post by: WA Tiger on November 20, 2011, 02:42:07 AM
It's like a bloke commentating netball.........it's just not right.....
Title: Re: Emma Quayle's Guide to the 2011 AFL draft - RICHMOND (Age)
Post by: one-eyed on November 20, 2011, 04:24:55 AM
Emma is in regular contact with recruiters and clubs and what they are up to so she often has more idea than other journos who just guess and make stuff up.

Anyway she has us linked to Docherty, Markworth and McKenzie in her top 25 today....

9. Sam Docherty

(Gippsland Power, 18, 185cm, 83kg)

If you make smart decisions and can kick, you're a chance. Docherty does that, and has a bit of pace to go with it. He won't be able to get started for a while - he needs minor hip surgery - but I could see him taking kick-in duties for an AFL club next year. It took him until the middle of the year to force people to take notice of him but from there he kept nailing long targets, and was always aware of what was going on around him.

Who will pick him? The Lions met him last week, and he'll appeal to Richmond, the Western Bulldogs and particularly North Melbourne if he gets past them.


14. Daniel Markworth

(Calder Cannons, 19, 191cm, 78kg)

Markworth is a hard one to slot into a positional group, but will most likely start out as a lead-up forward who could wind up in the midfield. He's very quick, has endurance and is always on his toes, bouncing around. He gets involved in such varied ways - a spin out of a pack, quick give, run-of-the-mill set shot. He's not yet consistent and can do the odd crazy thing, but has huge scope.

Who will pick him? Richmond at 15 and Freo are big chances, and every club from there would need to take a look.


23. Brad McKenzie

(Sturt, 18, 188cm, 76kg)

McKenzie is one of the smartest, switched-on players in this year's draft. He's also perhaps the best kick. He finds room across half-back to pick his way through traffic, and also gets forward of centre, where he'll either hit a forward on the chest or use his agility to slip by someone and kick a goal. He creeps up on you, maybe because the things he does tend to bring those around him into the play rather than demand attention.

Who will pick him? Richmond may grab him early, should other options be gone and he's right in the mix for its second pick too.

Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/jobs-for-the-boys-building-a-club-finding-a-roughie-20111119-1nojy.html#ixzz1eAoPJtQO
Title: Re: Emma Quayle's Guide to the 2011 AFL draft - RICHMOND (Age)
Post by: TigerLand on November 20, 2011, 04:27:05 AM
Emma Quayle is alot better than the majority of muppets that make comments on football, regardless of whether she has a knob or not.
Title: Re: Emma Quayle's Guide to the 2011 AFL draft - RICHMOND (Age)
Post by: Dubstep Dookie on November 20, 2011, 06:49:46 AM
Would read her pieces than the crap from Tarot Caro, Ratboy or Shifter Sheehan.

Title: Re: Emma Quayle's Guide to the 2011 AFL draft - RICHMOND (Age)
Post by: Smokey on November 20, 2011, 06:59:03 AM
Careful there fellas, can lead to all hell breaking loose.  :shh

On another note I think Emma Quayle is smoking hot.

Don't know about smoking hot TBR, I've never seen a pic of her but I do know I respect her football opinion and knowledge a shedload more than many male journos.  Hutchy and Barrett anyone?
Title: Re: Emma Quayle's Guide to the 2011 AFL draft - RICHMOND (Age)
Post by: Dubstep Dookie on November 20, 2011, 07:02:25 AM
(http://herfooty.com.au/sites/herfooty.com.au/files/imagecache/blog_teaser/blog/0_QuayleEmma1.jpg)

Gotta agree with TBR

'Girl next door' smokin hot  :cheers
Title: Re: Emma Quayle's Guide to the 2011 AFL draft - RICHMOND (Age)
Post by: Coach on November 20, 2011, 07:42:41 AM
she ok but not hot. you guys been watching too many fiilms
Title: Re: Emma Quayle's Guide to the 2011 AFL draft - RICHMOND (Age)
Post by: TigerTimeII on November 20, 2011, 07:44:24 AM
she gorgeous and can fart in my bed any day lol
Title: Re: Emma Quayle's Guide to the 2011 AFL draft - RICHMOND (Age)
Post by: Coach on November 20, 2011, 07:46:12 AM
you scare me sometimes x
Title: Re: Emma Quayle's Guide to the 2011 AFL draft - RICHMOND (Age)
Post by: The Big Richo on November 20, 2011, 10:04:08 AM
she ok but not hot. you guys been watching too many fiilms

She gets bonus points for digging footy.  :whistle
Title: Re: Emma Quayle's Guide to the 2011 AFL draft - RICHMOND (Age)
Post by: WilliamPowell on November 20, 2011, 10:47:56 AM
Interesting thing I found in Emma's article in this mornings Age is that she only has Taylor Adams at 22 where as the guy Clarke from the HUN reckons we will take him at 15

Emma watches alot of TAC games so I reckon she has more of a clue  ;D
Title: Re: Emma Quayle's Guide to the 2011 AFL draft - RICHMOND (Age)
Post by: Loui Tufga on November 20, 2011, 11:38:46 AM
Interesting thing I found in Emma's article in this mornings Age is that she only has Taylor Adams at 22 where as the guy Clarke from the HUN reckons we will take him at 15

Emma watches alot of TAC games so I reckon she has more of a clue  ;D

It's funny isn't it! Every one of these Mock Drafts has players all over the place, I dont think I have actually seen one the same outsuide the top 8 :o :o I think  really goes to show how open it is after the first 6 or 7 picks! I think with GWS having 11 of the first 15 picks doesn't help either, not sure weather they will go for best available or draft for needs with the last 4 or 5 of those picks??

We won't be short of options at 15 but we really need to do our homework and not let the best player slip past.
Title: Re: Emma Quayle's Guide to the 2011 AFL draft - RICHMOND (Age)
Post by: yellowandback on November 20, 2011, 12:02:24 PM
Interesting thing I found in Emma's article in this mornings Age is that she only has Taylor Adams at 22 where as the guy Clarke from the HUN reckons we will take him at 15

Emma watches alot of TAC games so I reckon she has more of a clue  ;D

It isn't a mock draft, she rates the players from 1-25 on quality. The list doesn't attempt to factor a clubs recruiting recruiting priority
Title: Re: Emma Quayle's Guide to the 2011 AFL draft - RICHMOND (Age)
Post by: tigs2011 on November 20, 2011, 12:16:33 PM
Interesting thing I found in Emma's article in this mornings Age is that she only has Taylor Adams at 22 where as the guy Clarke from the HUN reckons we will take him at 15

Emma watches alot of TAC games so I reckon she has more of a clue  ;D

It isn't a mock draft, she rates the players from 1-25 on quality. The list doesn't attempt to factor a clubs recruiting recruiting priority

Yer otherwise Patton and Coniglio would have gone 19 and 31 to the Bombers respectively. So biased lol.
Title: Re: Emma Quayle's Guide to the 2011 AFL draft - RICHMOND (Age)
Post by: mightytiges on November 20, 2011, 02:19:43 PM
Yer otherwise Patton and Coniglio would have gone 19 and 31 to the Bombers respectively. So biased lol.
That would be Rohan Connolly or Mark Robinson :yep
Title: Re: Emma Quayle's Guide to the 2011 AFL draft - RICHMOND (Age)
Post by: mightytiges on November 20, 2011, 02:31:10 PM
Interesting thing I found in Emma's article in this mornings Age is that she only has Taylor Adams at 22 where as the guy Clarke from the HUN reckons we will take him at 15

Emma watches alot of TAC games so I reckon she has more of a clue  ;D

It's funny isn't it! Every one of these Mock Drafts has players all over the place, I dont think I have actually seen one the same outsuide the top 8 :o :o I think  really goes to show how open it is after the first 6 or 7 picks! I think with GWS having 11 of the first 15 picks doesn't help either, not sure weather they will go for best available or draft for needs with the last 4 or 5 of those picks??

We won't be short of options at 15 but we really need to do our homework and not let the best player slip past.
Yep no one has any idea how it'll play out this year even after the top 3. It all depends on what GWS do - whether they go best available with their first 11 picks or spread them around on different types (mids/KPPs/rucks). Also the kids are fairly even after the top few so they could even up anywhere.
Title: Re: Emma Quayle's Guide to the 2011 AFL draft - RICHMOND (Age)
Post by: RedanTiger on November 20, 2011, 02:38:32 PM
It's like a bloke commentating netball.........it's just not right.....

Luke Darcy and the Netballers  :whistle
Title: Re: Emma Quayle's Guide to the 2011 AFL draft - RICHMOND (Age)
Post by: mightytiges on November 20, 2011, 10:58:54 PM
Emma said tonight that she believes we're interested in Docherty and McKenzie but she thinks Brisbane will go after Docherty.
Title: Re: Emma Quayle's Guide to the 2011 AFL draft - RICHMOND (Age)
Post by: Darth Tiger on November 20, 2011, 11:15:52 PM
Personally, I respect Emma's opinions and articles as they are somewhat based on good journo principles of actually getting out and talking with the TAC players, parents, coaches & stalwarts, as well as having decent contacts amongst the club recruiting managers and officers.
Other peanuts think rampant opinion means quality analysis without the research.
Title: Re: Emma Quayle's Guide to the 2011 AFL draft - RICHMOND (Age)
Post by: one-eyed on November 21, 2011, 02:41:13 AM
Here's Emma Quayle's mock top 25 draft last year (as well Jay Clark's out of interest). She got the first 7 picks correctly matching the respective clubs (including Conca going to us) and she predicted 23 of the actual top 25 on draft day.

http://oneeyed-richmond.com/forum/index.php?topic=12181.0
Title: Re: Emma Quayle's Guide to the 2011 AFL draft - RICHMOND (Age)
Post by: Eat_em_Alive on November 22, 2011, 09:58:44 AM
Emma will be on 'hungry for sport' between 10-11am today discussing with KB her draft predictions. Grrr
Go tiges!

EEA
Title: Re: Emma Quayle's Guide to the 2011 AFL draft - RICHMOND (Age)
Post by: JVT on November 22, 2011, 11:42:40 AM
Anyone hear what Emma had to say and can post a summary?  :cheers
Title: Re: Emma Quayle's Guide to the 2011 AFL draft - RICHMOND (Age)
Post by: Phil Mrakov on November 22, 2011, 11:47:35 AM
Anyone hear what Emma had to say and can post a summary?  :cheers

She said we will use one of our picks to redraft J.Mcmahon.
Title: Re: Emma Quayle's Guide to the 2011 AFL draft - RICHMOND (Age)
Post by: JVT on November 22, 2011, 11:57:50 AM
 :outtahere