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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: one-eyed on April 14, 2012, 07:40:23 PM
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Any changes after a 10 goal win?
Fire away...
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perhaps vickery, depending on how how our talls go for coburg.
if maric gets grief for his bitch slap it may help his cause
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Yeah I missed that slap what happened?
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it was when davey was giving ellis a hard time. the umps gave melbourne a free in their forward pocket but there was a bit going on. not sure who was the recipient of the slap.
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Would love to see:
outs: Vickery and Jackson
ins: Griffith/Derrycx and Arnot.
But will see:
No Change
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perhaps vickery, depending on how how our talls go for coburg.
if maric gets grief for his bitch slap it may help his cause
Doesn't Coburg have a bye this week?
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I'd like to see A.Maric play a full game.
Too good for sub.
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So Jackson apparently played better than Edwards and people still want him dropped instead of Edwards.....go figure... :huh
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So Jackson apparently played better than Edwards and people still want him dropped instead of Edwards.....go figure... :huh
Edwards is a little more creative when he gets the ball, Jackson just butchers it!!!
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So Jackson apparently played better than Edwards and people still want him dropped instead of Edwards.....go figure... :huh
Your acting like a 11 year old boy having his first ever crush
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Actually the way the selections have been made lately, I would expect maybe Vickery out for Gus, or no change at all...
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So Jackson apparently played better than Edwards and people still want him dropped instead of Edwards.....go figure... :huh
Your acting like a 11 year old boy having his first ever crush
You are acting like a grown man with a crush on an 11 year old boy... :police:
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perhaps vickery, depending on how how our talls go for coburg.
if maric gets grief for his bitch slap it may help his cause
Doesn't Coburg have a bye this week?
dunno :huh
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Out.vickery and Jackson
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perhaps vickery, depending on how how our talls go for coburg.
if maric gets grief for his bitch slap it may help his cause
Doesn't Coburg have a bye this week?
dunno :huh
Coburg, Sandringham and another team have byes this weeks. Many of the players will go play for EDFL clubs or whatever this weekend.
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Out.vickery and Jackson
X2
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Gus is a certainty. Greg White would be getting close too
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Unfortunately with Coburg having the bye this week makes it hard to see any changes
So = NO CHANGE for mine
Though I'd like to see Vickery go back to try and get some form - was terrible again yesterday...at least he's been consistent ;D
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sopmethings not right with TV.
off season gone from promising to hack.
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So Jackson apparently played better than Edwards and people still want him dropped instead of Edwards.....go figure... :huh
Can't play. Either can Edwards.
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Wouldnt surprise me if he is playing with some sought of injury. Looks to have lost his agility.
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So Jackson apparently played better than Edwards and people still want him dropped instead of Edwards.....go figure... :huh
Can't play. Either can Edwards.
:thumbsup
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Jackson :rollin did any of his kicks go where they were meant or just many out on the full or just inside the boundry
OUT JACKSON + VICKERY
IN GUS & WHITE in the red jacket
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Jackson :rollin did any of his kicks go where they were meant or just many out on the full or just inside the boundry
OUT JACKSON + VICKERY
IN GUS & WHITE in the red jacket
Correct
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Jackson :rollin did any of his kicks go where they were meant or just many out on the full or just inside the boundry
OUT JACKSON + VICKERY
IN GUS & WHITE in the red jacket
Correct
the graham experiment hasn't worked. Pick him & the club is going backwards.
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Jackson for Webberley should be only change.
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I wouldn't mind seeing McGuane in to take the resting ruckman should the Cats play both West and hOrrendous. Batch trained with the midfield and played loose man in the back half during the Nob cup and copped criticism for it. Could give him a run with role in Bartel to try and negate some of Bartel's influence (easiest way to do that is keep it in forward half though lol) and learn to play the role from the best bloke in the comp.
The best way to get on top of the Cats is run and spread and speed from stoppages. White IMO is too small against the Cats though. Webberly at worst would suit the game though.
Dwaino's genius:
No suspensions-
In: McGuane (or Webberly should we predict only one Cats ruckman)
Out: Edwards
Could possibly accept our losses and give Derrickx a run in for Ty. If Maric has to take a holiday, could again accept our losses and go in with Browne. IMO just as capable to have a crack against hOrredous or West.
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I wouldn't mind seeing McGuane in to take the resting ruckman should the Cats play both West and hOrrendous. Batch trained with the midfield and played loose man in the back half during the Nob cup and copped criticism for it. Could give him a run with role in Bartel to try and negate some of Bartel's influence (easiest way to do that is keep it in forward half though lol) and learn to play the role from the best bloke in the comp.
The best way to get on top of the Cats is run and spread and speed from stoppages. White IMO is too small against the Cats though. Webberly at worst would suit the game though.
Dwaino's genius:
No suspensions-
In: McGuane (or Webberly should we predict only one Cats ruckman)
Out: Edwards
Could possibly accept our losses and give Derrickx a run in for Ty. If Maric has to take a holiday, could again accept our losses and go in with Browne. IMO just as capable to have a crack against hOrredous or West.
browne? Your joking he's the worst ruckman I've seen at the club in a long time. We would be better off having Tuck ruck than having the big pear.
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I wouldn't mind seeing McGuane in to take the resting ruckman should the Cats play both West and hOrrendous. Batch trained with the midfield and played loose man in the back half during the Nob cup and copped criticism for it. Could give him a run with role in Bartel to try and negate some of Bartel's influence (easiest way to do that is keep it in forward half though lol) and learn to play the role from the best bloke in the comp.
The best way to get on top of the Cats is run and spread and speed from stoppages. White IMO is too small against the Cats though. Webberly at worst would suit the game though.
Dwaino's genius:
No suspensions-
In: McGuane (or Webberly should we predict only one Cats ruckman)
Out: Edwards
Could possibly accept our losses and give Derrickx a run in for Ty. If Maric has to take a holiday, could again accept our losses and go in with Browne. IMO just as capable to have a crack against hOrredous or West.
browne? Your joking he's the worst ruckman I've seen at the club in a long time. We would be better off having Tuck ruck than having the big pear.
Watched the Coburg games at all? We have the option of: cement foot unco, scared unco, and wtf-am-i-doing unco. Lucky dip. Our ruck stocks suck.
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Yeah, and am I the only one that's noticed Maric's been beaten in every game this year :outtahere
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Yeah, and am I the only one that's noticed Maric's been beaten in every game this year :outtahere
In which aspect? He dominated the hit outs verse Carlton, Jolly beat him in hit outs but he smashed him in stats around the ground, and same deal with Jamar and we still managed to win the clearances against Melbourne. Not sure what you want?
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jamar gave him a lesson in how to take and keep front position
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Thus Jamar's 34 hitouts to Maric's 24. Too bad Jamar did sweet FA else. Plodding potato head.
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Kruz stuffing flogged Maric in round one. That's okay though because Kruzer will be too good for most ruckman in future. Dwaino, he dominated in hitouts against Carlton yet you don't mention the impact Kruz had around the ground? Then you say he got more of the footy then Jamar and Jolly (Jamar got as much of it as Maric did) yet you don't talk about the actual ruck work? You can't have it one way and not the other, guy. Take your Richmond goggles off and face the facts. Maric is a battler...small upgrade on Graham, Pear etc.
stuff me, I miss Stafford that much it's not funny :banghead
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I think everyone accepts Kreuzer and even blokes like Nic Nat will smash Maric and most rucks around the ground? The way you just argued the point means Maric hasn't lost every game. Does a ruck man win if they win disposals or hit outs? He's won different games in different areas, so he hasn't been beaten every game then has he? And no, he got more touches (and more contested) than Jamar. Spent less time on the ground and had 25% better efficiency. Take your Graham goggles off and realise he is a spaz (http://i1264.photobucket.com/albums/jj489/dwwaino/baby.gif). Seen a Coburg game? The dork can't even bend his needs. He tries to reach out for a footy on the ground with his feet firmly planted in cement for effs sake. Sandringham had a ripe old chuckle at Graham (and Wright) at their match review last monday.
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I acknowledge Maric is an upgrade on Graham, so not sure why you need to bring him up? Obviously you can't defend the guy without having to bring up our mistakes of the past. Compared to most ruckman Maric can't play. Can take a decent grab and is fitter than Pear/Graham/TD which makes him better by default. Doesn't mean he's actually any good. Yes, I have seen a Coburg game. Graham was solid and they're happy with him there. Probably why he's been 1st EMG two weeks running. :outtahere
I didn't argue it at all like that. I just countered your pathetic attempt at defending Maric when you said he dominated the hitouts against Carlton :lol 25 hitouts is not dominating. Matty Kreuzers performance around the ground was dominating. Jamar's ruck performance against Maric was dominating. Neither didn't anything of note around the ground. Similar story against Collingwood with Dawes and Jolly. Jolly beat him in the ruck but both did SFA around the ground. I'm just a little tired of people talking about this guy like he's our saviour.
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Kreuzer is a champ, no denying that. But I was wondering as to what you meant by Maric losing every game so far. So I thought I'd go check up some generic stats from the AFL site and he won and lost different columns every time. I'll admit he's no world beater and I hope we're seriously looking at somebody from somewhere that is ready to go and will help move us on, but for the first time in years we've got a bloke who is actually competitive against the rest of the rucks in the competition.
(http://mattstone.blogs.com/photos/christian_art_symbols/dove-with-olive-branch.jpg)
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I just want some stuffing good players. Been waiting a long time
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Damn straight, don't we all! ;D I was spewing we didn't rookie that Bolger bloke. A few of the current ruckmen (well, I know Sam Jacobs was anyway) were either upgraded rookies or rookies snatched by another club when delisted.
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maric negates the opposition ruckman as much as he beats them.
we have 10 more h/o than our oponents so far, which isnt huge, but are ranked 4th for least opponent hit outs but only 13th for hit outs ourself. either we are just having a lot less ruck contests in our games or a lot of the ruck contests are a draw
i reckon vickery has been better at tapping to advantage than maric, despite his crap form. against colonwoood maric fed their mids heaps.
the backmen would appreciate the way maric drops back and gives a chop out though
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Herald-Sun Footy Barometer - Round 4
RICHMOND
ON THE BLOCK: How long do the Tigers give Ty Vickery? The man needs to stand up and take a mark
ON THE CUSP: Hard to get a gauge with Coburg having a bye in the VFL at the weekend. There’s been talk about Jeromey Webberley, who’s been impressive in the seconds to date.
ELIZA SEWELL'S FORECAST: It’s bleak. So the Cats lost to the Kangaroos and the last time that happened, back in Round 5 2007, they played the Tigers the following week and thumped them by 157 points.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/afl/supercoach-news/footy-barometer-round-4/story-fncufbo5-1226327992415
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Got nothing to lose against the cats. Everyone saying we are going to get thumped. So changes wise if going to drop Vickery bring in Griffiths. Drop Jackson bring in either Webberley or White. Jackson's disposal was not any better against Melbourne. Drop him.
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Jackson :rollin did any of his kicks go where they were meant or just many out on the full or just inside the boundry
OUT JACKSON + VICKERY
IN GUS & WHITE in the red jacket
Graham is going tonplaybfull forward?
God help us
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Drop Vickery and bring in Wayne McGuane to play CHF
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How about the AFL consider a rule change. We get rid of the bounces and throw ins, turn them into centre rolls and boundary roll in's, make all ruckman redundant. No more whingeing. problem solved. :thumbsup
If we do this, players like Tucky & Cotch will be the new Vodka's & Nick Nats of AFL. ;D
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RICHMOND - In the Mix
There's likely to be no changes to the team that defeated Melbourne by 59 points in round three. Tyrone Vickery's poor form warrants speculation about whether he should keep his place but the Tigers are expected to stick with him. Coburg Tigers' bye last week took away the opportunity of the fringe players to press for selection.
http://www.afl.com.au/News/NEWSARTICLE/tabid/208/newsId/133308/Default.aspx
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How about the AFL consider a rule change. We get rid of the bounces and throw ins, turn them into centre rolls and boundary roll in's, make all ruckman redundant. No more whingeing. problem solved. :thumbsup
If we do this, players like Tucky & Cotch will be the new Vodka's & Nick Nats of AFL. ;D
very funny Tiga. Made me laugh imagining it.
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Hopefully Dimma watched Insider last night when old mate Kingy showed a cheat sheet that Norf used to exploit a Geelong backline with no Scarlet :shh :shh :shh
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What are the chances of A.Maric playing a full game?
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Hopefully Dimma watched Insider last night when old mate Kingy showed a cheat sheet that Norf used to exploit a Geelong backline with no Scarlet :shh :shh :shh
What did they say?
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the only reason Nought won last week was because the cats were knackered from their huge clash with Hawthorn the previous monday.
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Hopefully Dimma watched Insider last night when old mate Kingy showed a cheat sheet that Norf used to exploit a Geelong backline with no Scarlet :shh :shh :shh
What did they say?
Sacrificed Petrie. He kept taking the best defender up the ground or away from the ball. Left only Edwards or sometimes H-Mac in the 50 with heaps of space to lead into or force 1 on 1s with their 3rd or 4th defender. Eventually the Cats stuck Bartel behind the ball but this killed their midfield and Norf could over run them. Just like Willy said, they were knackered and Norf took this and made and it worse. We got 3 tall forwards and I imagine would be able to do something similar since there will still be no Scarlet. If we can force Bartel behind the ball (first man the Cats use) then its actually a positive for us.