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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: one-eyed on May 12, 2012, 09:32:25 PM
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No injuries out of the game today. Do we change a winning line-up? Does Vickery get another chance if his calf is alright?
Fire away....
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Batch didn't get injured?
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hardwick hinted ellis may be rested next week due to soreness, so there's the opening to bring vickery back in if fit
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how do you get soreness when you rarely go in for the hard ball? there's also the fact Ellis played about 10 minutes today.
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hardwick hinted ellis may be rested next week due to soreness, so there's the opening to bring vickery back in if fit
This. :thumbsup
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ESS are taller than syd, Either Vickery or Derix to come in
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Post should come in surely.
Can play back
Can play Forward
Can play Ruck
Easy choice in my opinion!
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He did kick 6 for coburg today so his name will be bandied around the selection table.
Today confirmed what I've felt for the past 3-4 weeks, we look better with 2 talls up front, not 3. It helps our fwd pressure a lot more and makes us more unpredictable, I love seeing dusty/lids/cotch playing as a 3rd focal point. If bloody Vicks can find some form that would be perfect as miller can't ruck.
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He did kick 6 for coburg today so his name will be bandied around the selection table.
Today confirmed what I've felt for the past 3-4 weeks, we look better with 2 talls up front, not 3. It helps our fwd pressure a lot more and makes us more unpredictable, I love seeing dusty/lids/cotch playing as a 3rd focal point. If bloody Vicks can find some form that would be perfect as miller can't ruck.
Agree with this mate, was thinking it for most of today actually.
Vicks needs to at least find last years form ffs
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ESS are taller than syd, Either Vickery or Derix to come in
Derickx played in the 3rds today
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ESS are taller than syd, Either Vickery or Derix to come in
Derickx played in the 3rds today
Exactly, can't see him getting called for his first game after playing well in devlopment.
He should be killing it in the reseves week week in and out, and banging on the door
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Maric will certainly need help next week against the Dons,so for me its a no brainer..Vicks in if fit
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ESS are taller than syd, Either Vickery or Derix to come in
I reckon they will be a tad shorter next week if the MRP are fair dinkum. Lovett-Murray should get a couple for his tackle on Priddis.
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Post should come in surely.
Can play back
Can play Forward
Can play Ruck
Easy choice in my opinion!
But can he pay at all????
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Post hits the Seniors and seems so nervous , uncomfortable 90k at the G wouldn't be a good game to ease him into senior footy for me but i do hope he gets a game and proves me wrong , Here's hoping he replaces Pia millers shag at years end BJM has been a really good contributor this year someone really needs to sieze the day soon prefer Post to Astbury thus far only because he seems less prone to injury
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We definitely need another ruckman to counter the Ryder/Bellchambers combination. Vickery if fit. If not, then Gus. Also Jackson needs to be dropped before an enraged Tiger fan assassinates him, and Arnot brought in. Hey, I know it won't happen, but it is the dreamtime so I can dream can't I?
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dont think gus will be playing any football for a few weeks
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Gus cant play due to two yellow cards ;)
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Vickery in . Ellis out.
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Surely Gus can come in and play if we want him to? Red cards what a joke. Gus should have slapped the umpire as he was going off.
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In: Vick
Out: Jackson
And Miller will get a senior contract next year.
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Out: Edwards
In: Vickery
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Would not drop Edwards. I think Ellis needs a rest this week. In: Vickery
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Tell you what i thought the comment by Hardwick about Ellis needing a rest was odd. Seven games into t he season and a young fella already needs a rest.....odd.
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I reckon post just mit get a call to be second ruck, third forward option
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Tell you what i thought the comment by Hardwick about Ellis needing a rest was odd. Seven games into t he season and a young fella already needs a rest.....odd.
they rested martin,due to soreness, in rnd 6 of his first season.
i actually think ellis needs some time at a lower level, he seems to lack a bit of self confidence at the moment, to me
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Tell you what i thought the comment by Hardwick about Ellis needing a rest was odd. Seven games into t he season and a young fella already needs a rest.....odd.
I think it is odd considering he only played half a quarter yesterday but not so odd when you consider it is first preseason, Nab Cup and the fact that he, like Martin, actually go hard.
Agree with Al, it won't hurt him or us.
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OUT; EDWARDS.... :lol
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What's wrong with Edwards? :huh
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gerks is back on Shed's bandwagon. great.
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gerks is back on Shed's bandwagon. great.
Yep and now trying to cause trouble........disappointed Gerker.....
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What? ;D
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What? ;D
:police:
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Batch had ice on his thigh after the game. Dimma told Fox Footy it was a slight corky
Vickery told a pre-match function he was hoping to miss only 1 week and be back for Dreamtime "can't afford to miss games" he said. He also said he had gone into the Port game with the calf problem. Can anyone explain why we played him then? But I digrese
INS: Vickery (if fit), Arnott or White (for Nahas if he gets suspended)
OUTS: Ellis (because of what Dimma said about him needing a rest from being a bit sore & tired), Nahas (if suspended)
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If Nahas gets suspended then White for me.
White's pace will be critical against the bums.
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Herald-Sun's Footy Barometer Round 8
RICHMOND
ON THE BLOCK: On form, no one. Brandon Ellis could be given a spell in the twos but even he would be stiff after coming on with only a few minutes to play against the Swans.
ON THE CUSP: Tyrone Vickery should be right after missing Saturday’s win with a calf strain, but the forward line looked dangerous without him so he might struggle to get back in. Jayden Post (six goals) and Daniel Connors (four) were impressive for Coburg, but ruckman Angus Graham could be missing for a while after he copped a red card for allegedly trying to kick an opponent in the groin. Defender David Astbury’s planned comeback game from knee surgery in the Coburg reserves was aborted and Luke McGuane may be out for the year with a knee injury.
AL PATON’S FORECAST: Expect an unchanged line-up for a massive Dreamtime clash against Essendon. The Tigers’ tough draw doesn’t get any easier – after the Bombers it’s Hawthorn and St Kilda – but the natives are stirring.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/afl/supercoach-news/footy-barometer-round-4/story-fncufbo5-1226354921172
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This native is stirring eavery week!!
Anyways, anyone know what's happenening with vickery?
I would agree our foward line is dangerous and unpredictable as it was last week without him. But honestly is miller up to challenging ryder and bellchambers.
He would be stiff getting dropped, but maybe miller out, vickery in and roll with the same fwd line structure.
Vickery hasn't been too bad in the ruck this year imo- just his fwd work is an issue
Can't drop shed after his no look handball to grigg resulting in a goal- was his finest achievement thus far is the shed :shh
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I thought the trerrible twosome of Edwards and Jackson both played pretty well against the geese.
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I thought the trerrible twosome of Edwards and Jackson both played pretty well against the geese.
Edwards did one good pass, he is on fire...
Jackson was ok and is not my whipping boy!
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Did a bit more than that from my view at the game, WAT. But let's not get into an Edwards debate. We know your stance.
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Did a bit more than that from my view at the game, WAT. But let's not get into an Edwards debate. We know your stance.
Yep, same as my stance was with Polo, just won't make it...sad but true. I would love to see him make it but......I just can't see it happening, unfortunate but true.. :-\
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RICHMOND - In the Mix
The big dilemma at Tigerland is just what to do about their ruck situation if Tyrone Vickery fails to come up from his calf strain. The Richmond selectors would then have to decide whether to go in with the same approach they took in to the victory over Sydney Swans; this would entail playing Ivan Maric on the ball for almost the entire match, with lead-up forward Brad Miller as the pinch-hitter. Or they might select a second ruckman to help Maric shoulder the load against Essendon's formidable duo Paddy Ryder and Tom Bellchambers. Angus Graham would be the obvious choice to partner Maric if he's found not guilty by the VFL tribunal on a kicking charge. Andrew Browne would be next in line after being named among Coburg Tigers' best players last weekend.
-Paul Daffey
http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/135824/default.aspx
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If Vicks can't get up you would have to look Post again, Browne or Gus.
But honestly, Post for mine, could let Miller play more as the pinch hitter in the ruck and Post could play forward.
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If Vicks can't get up you would have to look Post again, Browne or Gus.
But honestly, Post for mine, could let Miller play more as the pinch hitter in the ruck and Post could play forward.
Wprob the other way around, posty isn't too bad as a pinch hitting ruck man, miller not suited
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Agree TM but Posty can kick and take a contested grab. Something Milzy struggles with. If only our young forwards had Miller's work rate and a good lead like he has.
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When did posty learn to kick and take cm's at AFL level? :huh
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M8 he played alright in his first few games :lol
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he was also servicable when he pinch hit in the ruck.
i'd prefer to see him play rather than browne or gus if vickery cant come up.
perhaps his spell up forward for coburg last week will give him the confidence he needs.
you never know, he may perform enough that miller steps aside for vickery :pray
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You can't play blokes with zero confidence at the level in big games. Post is a deer in headlights when there is any more than 200 people watching. He'll drop easy marks, brain fart, and turn it over. Essendon will chew him up.
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I'm thinking Dimma's recent press releases are a bit of smoke and mirrors. i'm confident they already have a plan on how they plan to combat Essendon.. Myself i dont think its the Ryder/Bellchambers thing but more the Watson/Stanton/Zaharakis that is needed to be stomped. Other teams havent put a tag on all theses players..
What i have noticed, and why i think we played so well against Sydey, is that we have players that can shut down these players, Grigg, Edwards, Houli and Jackson are all capable these days of shutting down players and also being offensive. This is where i see our defensive improvement has come from. Other teams have failed to tag all three, perhaps because they only rate 1 or 2 but our ability to close 3 of them out will go a long way to beating Essendon.
If the 3 boys given the role,do their job we will win, if not we wont.
Maric will do fine in the ruck, just as he did getting 3 brownlow votes against Cox and Nik Nat, which Essendon didnt have to contend with.
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I would think the Bombers would be very worried about stopping our midfield .this is where the game will be won
Foley and Tuck are flying at present
Let the tag Cotch and Martin.
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Tuck or Jacko onto Watson
Stop Watson and you stop Essendon
:thumbsup
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You can't play blokes with zero confidence at the level in big games. Post is a deer in headlights when there is any more than 200 people watching. He'll drop easy marks, brain fart, and turn it over. Essendon will chew him up.
from what i have seen post looks more confident up forward. down back he just craps himself. perhaps he's just poo scared of making a mistake so close to the enemy's goal?
Both jackson and king have shown that players who struggle a bit between the ears can find it easier to play up forward where decision making is not as important.
the other options, if we are to bring in a tall, gus and browne are ruckmen (alright some will debate even that) foremost who offer very little up forward, neither of which fill me with confidence they can play a primarily forward role and relieving in the ruck..
Basically if vickery doesn't come up, we struggle to find a suitable replacement.
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Basically if vickery doesn't come up, we struggle to find a suitable replacement.
pretty much
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No change I say...
Gotta play Edwards in the dream time and Jackson should be sent out to destroy Stanton....
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No change I say...
Gotta play Edwards in the dream time
Why, because he has Aboriginal blood??????
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big risk to not bring someone in to help out against bellchambers and ryder. the game could be lost in the periods we ask miller to ruck against them.
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Maybe Browne will come in as a smokey!
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Why, because he has Aboriginal blood??????
Perhaps because he was OK last week playing his role ::)
They actually all did OK last week.
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Why, because he has Aboriginal blood??????
Perhaps because he was OK last week playing his role ::)
They actually all did OK last week.
Yep..OK, that's about as good as it gets for him, between OK and crap, the crap loses us games and happens more than the OK... ::)
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Maybe Browne will come in as a smokey!
Browne played ond game vs essendon . He worked like a trojan. The boy has ticker
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You can't play blokes with zero confidence at the level in big games. Post is a deer in headlights when there is any more than 200 people watching. He'll drop easy marks, brain fart, and turn it over. Essendon will chew him up.
When played forward he suffered from the same thing Vickery is currently suffering from. A fellow forward that gets 80% of the delivery even when another player is in a better possie. Although I don't think Posty demanded the footy enough when he was up forward. Kicked 5 in a quarter on the w/e so he must have done something right.
Pull your head in.
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the reason no one kicks it to Vickery is because he couldnt hold a stuffing mark to save himself in the first three rounds.
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his pre season lazwe eye surgery has been the issue its taking him longer to adjust
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Is that true?
if yes, what happened exactly? Laser stuffed his eyes up more? Or it just takes some time to adjust?
Personally, it doesn't look like an eye problem to me, more an issue of intensity and has now also lost confidence.
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Am I the only one who remembers Vickery clunking marks against West Coast? What's the excuse for ignoring him time after time the following week?
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one game out of five with a few marks is not going to restore confidence in your teammates. I agree that he should of been used more against Port but I understand why his teammates aren't kicking it to him.
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If you ignore a bloke leading up the corridor in favour of kicking it to Riewoldt in the pocket then you're a poo decision maker. Doesn't matter if it's Greg White on the lead or Vickery or Miller. Honour the lead of the blokes who go to the right spots. Don't encourage JR to call for it long every time. Vickery has gotten into good positions only to be ignored so that Riewoldt can have a crack at trying to jump over 7 people and the point post.
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I'm with you on this Davey. The best lead must be honored, regardless
I can also see how having eye surgery would take time to adjust to if it changes your vision. It would take a while to get your judgment back to what it was.
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If you ignore a bloke leading up the corridor in favour of kicking it to Riewoldt in the pocket then you're a poo decision maker. Doesn't matter if it's Greg White on the lead or Vickery or Miller. Honour the lead of the blokes who go to the right spots. Don't encourage JR to call for it long every time. Vickery has gotten into good positions only to be ignored so that Riewoldt can have a crack at trying to jump over 7 people and the point post.
Spoken like a guy who did kick 17 one afternoon for Rocherlea ;) On'ya Diala :thumbsup
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Whoa whoa partner :shh
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If you ignore a bloke leading up the corridor in favour of kicking it to Riewoldt in the pocket then you're a poo decision maker. Doesn't matter if it's Greg White on the lead or Vickery or Miller. Honour the lead of the blokes who go to the right spots. Don't encourage JR to call for it long every time. Vickery has gotten into good positions only to be ignored so that Riewoldt can have a crack at trying to jump over 7 people and the point post.
Spoken like a guy who did kick 17 one afternoon for Rocherlea ;) On'ya Diala :thumbsup
Am just a punter like the rest of ya's. ;D
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Best drop punter you'll ever see ;)