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General => General Discussion => Topic started by: tiger101 on August 24, 2012, 06:32:36 PM
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I dont want to believe he cheated because his story is such an inspiration.
I know he must get sick of being accused of being a drug cheat for years(as anyone would) but giving up on fighting the allegations doesn't seem right.
THE US Anti-Doping Agency will ban Lance Armstrong from cycling for life and strip him of all his results since August, 1998, including his seven Tour de France titles.
Armstrong today dropped any further challenges to USADA's allegations that he took performance-enhancing drugs to win cycling's premier event from 1999-2005.
Armstrong says USADA doesn't have the authority to vacate his Tour titles, but USADA chief executive Travis Tygart said the anti-drug agency had the power to make that decision.
Tygart called the Armstrong case a "heartbreaking" example of a win-at-all costs approach to sports as USADA confirmed it would strip Armstrong of all results since August 1, 1998.
Armstrong, who retired last year, declined to enter arbitration - his last option - because he said he was weary of fighting accusations that have dogged him for years. He has consistently pointed to the hundreds of drug tests that he has passed as proof of his innocence
"There comes a point in every man's life when he has to say, 'enough is enough'. For me, that time is now," Armstrong said in a statement.
He called the USADA investigation an "unconstitutional witch hunt".
"I have been dealing with claims that I cheated and had an unfair advantage in winning my seven Tours since 1999," he said. "The toll this has taken on my family and my work for our foundation and on me leads me to where I am today - finished with this nonsense."
http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/more-sport/lance-armstrong-accepts-usada-drug-charges/story-fnducgor-1226457338370
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C H E A T
Scumbag should have to return money to everyone who bought his books.
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C H E A T
Scumbag should have to return money to everyone who bought his books.
i agree but can you explain what is defense was?
I have mates who are cyclists and they say he never tested positive.
I just dont understand. he either tested positive, therefore guilty or he didnt.
IMO he is guilty as there are many people ready to testify against him. It seems very hallow now reading a novel on a man who fought a disease then took drugs to be the number 1 in his sport
I
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perhaps the disease was caused by his drug taking?
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I'm 12 and what is this
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What I don't get is he has banged on and on about being innocent.
Now he is saying he isn't going to fight this anymore , just wants it to be over
What the?
If you are so adamant about your innocence then wouldn't you just keep fighting to clear your name
Personally I don't get it
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What I don't get is he has banged on and on about being innocent.
Now he is saying he isn't going to fight this anymore , just wants it to be over
What the?
If you are so adamant about your innocence then wouldn't you just keep fighting to clear your name
Personally I don't get it
If it was taking a toll on him and his family I don't blame him. I'd rather live happily with a family for the rest of my life no matter what people think of me than put up with it.
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To anyone who has experienced the devastation that cancer can cause - the LIVESTRONG ethic was a tonic for the soul.
If you are innocent - you keep fighting - don't cheapen your good work.
Even if you don't do it in court - you just keep wailing the message - " I AM INNOCENT ".
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The US anti-doping agency has produced a 1000 pages which in summary call Armstrong not only a cheat himself but also a ringleader of drug cheating in cycling.
Lance Armstrong was ringleader of biggest doping conspiracy in sporting history, say USADA
By Nick Hoult
The Telegragh (UK)
11 Oct 2012
Lance Armstrong’s legacy as cancer survivor turned seven-time winner of the Tour de France is in ruins after he was accused of drug-taking on a massive scale, and being the ringleader of the most sophisticated doping conspiracy in sporting history.
The United States Anti-Doping Agency charged him with six offences covering the use of banned substances, the trafficking of drugs, the administration of drugs to team-mates and aiding and abetting a massive cover-up between 1998 and 2005, a period when he dominated the world’s most famous race.
Dave Brailsford, British Cycling’s performance director who was key to Bradley Wiggins becoming the first Briton to win the Tour de France this year, said was stunned to read the USADA findings. “It is shocking, it’s jaw dropping and it is very unpleasant.”
A total of 26 witnesses including 11 fellow riders from the United States Postal Service team testified to USADA against Armstrong in a doping case the agency described as “more extensive than any previously revealed in professional sports history”. The dossier has been sent to the International Cycling Union which now has 21 days to challenge its findings and appeal to the World Anti-Doping Agency or comply with the decision to strip Armstrong of his seven Tour de France titles.
In a statement on Wednesday night UCI said it will examine the evidence and “provide a timely response”.
USADA released the findings of a two-year investigation yesterday accusing Armstrong of using a cocktail of banned substances and blood transfusions. They built up a picture of an elaborate doping ring which alleged the involvement of support staff, fellow riders and even his former wife. The doping programme was the brainchild of disgraced Italian doctor, Michele Ferrari, and Armstrong would travel across Europe during and before races to have blood transfusions.
The report also accused Armstrong of administering testosterone to a team-mate, threatening fellow riders with the sack if they did not follow Dr Ferrari’s EPO programme and of surrounding himself with drug runners “so that he could achieve his goal of winning the Tour de France year after year”. The report says there was a “code of silence” in cycling as Armstrong intimidated whistle-blowers and the 200 pages of evidence referenced financial records, email traffic, and laboratory test results which the agency believes proved he was doping for years.
“The USPS Team doping conspiracy was professionally designed to groom and pressure athletes to use dangerous drugs, to evade detection, to ensure its secrecy and ultimately gain an unfair competitive advantage through superior doping practices,” the agency said. “A program organised by individuals who thought they were above the rules and who still play a major and active role in sport today.”
A spokesman for Armstrong accused USADA of conducting a witch-hunt. “Ignoring the 500-600 tests Lance Armstrong passed, ignoring all exculpatory evidence, and trying to justify the millions of dollars USADA has spent pursuing one, single athlete for years, USADA has continued its government funded witch-hunt of only Mr Armstrong, a retired cyclist, in violation of its own rules and due process.”
Witnesses revealed how Armstrong would receive blood transfusions in the team doctor’s hotel room during races. When police in France tightened up security Armstrong employed a drug smuggler called 'Motoman’ to deliver EPO to rendezvous points on the 1999 Tour de France route.
“Lance Armstrong and his handlers engaged in a massive and long-running scheme to use drugs, cover their tracks, intimidate witnesses, tarnish reputations, lie to hearing panels and the press and do whatever was necessary to conceal the truth,” said the report. Armstrong refused to co-operate with the investigation but in September, after losing a legal suit challenging USADA’s jurisdiction, he decided not to contest their case and was stripped of his seven Tour de France victories.
Armstrong himself remained defiant last night, tweeting that he was "hanging with family".
The report lays bare his relationship with Dr Ferrari and includes records from Swiss banks detailing payments by Armstrong of more than $1 million to the Italian doctor.
Damning testimony was provided by some of the leading cyclists of the 1990s and 2000s. Some had been thrown out of the sport as drug users but others owned up to USADA for the first time about their own drug taking including Canadian Michael Barry who competed in the 2010 Tour de France alongside Bradley Wiggins for Team Sky.
The most personally damaging aspect for Armstrong was the testimony provided by George Hincapie, who was alongside him for his seven tour victories, and also never failed a drug test in his career. In the past Armstrong described him as “true blue, like a brother to me”. Hincapie confessed to doping and how his role as domestique stretched to off the road as well. In 2005 he was told by the team’s director, Johan Bruyneel, to sweep Armstrong’s apartment for any drug material.
Other riders revealed how they witnessed Armstrong use drugs. Jonathan Vaughters testified he saw Armstrong inject himself with EPO at the 1998 Vuelta a España while Floyd Landis corroborated the story that Armstrong failed a dope test at the Tour of Switzerland in 2001.
Landis told the team manager and Armstrong “flew to the UCI headquarters and made a financial agreement to keep the positive test hidden”. The report states Pat McQuaid, the current president of UCI, denied the allegation.
The report homes in on each of Armstrong’s tour victories and details his drug use in each race. Tyler Hamilton, whose recently published book included a string of explosive allegations about Armstrong, revealed how he found EPO in Armstrong’s fridge. Armstrong was also accused of using illegal substances when he came out of retirement to compete in the 2009 and 2010 Tours de France, producing blood results with the odds of “occurring naturally less than one in a million”.
On a dark day for cycling, the report revealed 20 of the 21 podium finishers in the Tour de France from 1999-2005 have been directly tied to likely doping and concluded by saying “so ends one of the most sordid chapters in sporting history.”
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/othersports/cycling/lancearmstrong/9600577/Lance-Armstrong-was-ringleader-of-biggest-doping-conspiracy-in-sporting-history-say-USADA.html
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to quote Sandy Roberts
What more can you say!!
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AN Australian specialist has emerged as a key figure in the case against Lance Armstrong, who has been labelled a serial drug cheat by the US Anti-Doping Agency.
And Cycling Australia's president has backed the idea of a doping amnesty to make a clean break from its tainted past.
The Australian newspaper reports Christopher Gore, the head of physiology at the Australian Institute of Sport in Canberra, was asked by USADA to examine blood samples taken from Armstrong between October 2008 and April this year.
According to the USADA case file, Gore found the samples to have had an unusually low percentage of reticulocytes, or immature red blood cells, which are created naturally by the body," the newspaper report says.
When additional red blood cells are added via a transfusion, the body's production of reticulocytes is suppressed.
Gore found the approximate likelihood of Armstrong's reticulocyte values during the 2009 and 2010 Tours de France occurring naturally was less than one in a million, the file reads.
USADA concluded that the findings "build a compelling argument consistent with blood doping", despite not being a conventional antidoping test, the New York Times reported.
AIS director Matt Favier praised the work of Gore, who has been with the Institute for more than 20 years
"He has two professorships and is well positioned as an internationally recognised expert," Favier told Fairfax.
"Given his expertise and impeccable credentials, Professor Gore has provided an evidence-based opinion on perturbation in various factors found in the blood of athletes in several anti-doping cases.
"Professor Gore was also a key researcher in work prior to the Sydney Olympic Games that provided the basis for the current process that identifies abnormal levels of markers in an athlete's bloodstream. Moreover, the basic model of the so called 'athlete blood passport' now used by WADA and USADA is built on the foundation of that 1999-2000 research project, which was funded by the IOC."
The Armstrong revelations have triggered huge reactions around the world, with this year's Tour de France champion Bradley Wiggins admitting he has been shocked by the mountain of evidence against the American.
Meanwhile Cycling Australia president Klaus Mueller has backed the idea of a doping amnesty, despite the sport's world governing body backing away from the concept.
The Cycling Australia (CA) boss said it was too early to tell whether the hundreds of pages of documents would implicate anyone in Australian cycling.
In the wake of the Armstrong case, there have been calls in the sport for an amnesty or the equivalent of a truth and reconciliation commission.
The idea is for cycling to air any dirty secrets in regards to doping and make a clean break from its tainted past.
"It might now be time to consider a range of options including an amnesty for athletes who have cheated in the past to own up to any wrongdoing and have their confessions mitigate any subsequent penalties," Mueller said in a statement.
"This would be dependent on the nature and extent of any infractions.
"This case also provides an opportunity for the Australian Government to review the resources and powers of ASADA (the Australian Sports Anti-Doping Agency) especially in light of the extensive investigation and action taken by USADA in their pursuit of this case."
Last month, cycling's world body the UCI adopted a motion at their annual congress which called on the governing body to deal with current doping cases and "ignore attempts to exploit commercially or otherwise the painful aspects of cycling's past".
http://www.news.com.au/sport/ais-head-of-physiology-christopher-gore-played-key-role-in-usadas-lance-armstrong-case/story-fnect155-1226494307629
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International Cycling Union bans Lance Armstrong from cycling, strips him of seven Tour de France titles ...
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/more-sport/international-cycling-union-bans-lance-armstrong-from-cycling-strips-him-of-seven-tour-de-france-titles/story-e6frfglf-1226500392122
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Does anyone really care anymore?
Heard this morning one of the companies that paid him millions in bonuses after he "won" the Tour de France wants its money back ;D
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Why don't they just bin cycling all together? How many of the last 20 tour de France titles have been won by someone clean? It seems like 80% of these guys are cheats. poo sport.
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cycling is irrelevant. it's like people that speed walk and think it's a sport. get a motorbike. you dont see steroids in motogp.
as my uncle jason used to say, "leather over lycra"
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Bag him all any one wants, take his victories away, but at the end of the day he was the first man to walk on the moon and nobody can change that. RIP Lance Armstrong.
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Lance Picioane was the first man to ride a motorcycle on the moon
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Why don't they just bin cycling all together? How many of the last 20 tour de France titles have been won by someone clean? It seems like 80% of these guys are cheats. poo sport.
here here. is it even a sport, i mean lets be serious. What an absolute farce it really is. The ones that are clean should be proud of themselves.
In reference to your comment WP true i heard that as well today, but i also heard a caller on SEN ask will Nike etc also give back the money they made of Armstrong through merchandise. Fair point of double dipping i thought.
I would also expect Lance to give back his money he made from his cameo Dodgeball appearance.
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bunch of stuffing lycra clad wankers.
it should be legal to run them over.
get off the stuffing road you pricks!
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great live spectator sport though. :thumbsup
Ye...ye..yeeeEAAAAAYYYyyyyyyyyyy.......???????.........ok lets go get a crepe.
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great live spectator sport though. :thumbsup
Ye...ye..yeeeEAAAAAYYYyyyyyyyyyy.......???????.........ok lets go get a crepe.
Yep if you like watching grass grow.
Cycling has no credability left, not that it ever did to begin with
Should be banned
yay lets tap our hero's on their back as they stroll past the champs elysees after just injecting themselves
Tour de Joke
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they will find any way they can to...
1.pee of motorists with their outright arrogant stupidity
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2..Cheat....http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Nd13ARuvVE
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they will find any way they can to...
1.pee of motorists with their outright arrogant stupidity
and
2..Cheat....http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Nd13ARuvVE
Al, not to stereotype, but don't a high proportion of cars in the top end have bull bars?? ;D
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for sure, but they are a necessity. that lycra stuff really blocks the radiator otherwise.
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:lol
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Next week he will most likely admit to his doping and cheating.
DISGRACED cyclist Lance Armstrong will give an interview to Oprah Winfrey to be aired next week, her television network said, amid media reports that he will admit to doping.
The famed talk show host said that a 90-minute special show would address ''years of accusations of cheating, and charges of lying about the use of performance-enhancing drugs'' throughout Armstrong's ''storied cycling career.''
The interview will be Armstrong's first since being stripped of his seven Tour de France titles last year and will air on the Oprah Winfrey Network.
It will also be streamed live on her website, a publicity statement said.
Last week The New York Times reported that Armstrong, 41, was considering publicly admitting that he used banned performance-enhancing drugs, in an apparent bid to return to competitive sport in marathons and triathlons.
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/sport/cycling/lance-armstrong-to-give-oprah-winfrey-interview/story-fn8sc2wz-1226550385811
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I will be very surprised if he does admit!
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I will be very surprised if he does admit!
He has to make a living now somehow and an Oprah exclusive interview I would suggest does not come cheap but she will want her pound of flesh. (not that she needs it. ;D)
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I will be very surprised if he does admit!
He has to make a living now somehow and an Oprah exclusive interview I would suggest does not come cheap but she will want her pound of flesh. (not that she needs it. ;D)
some cycling guro was interviewed on SEN and he suggested it would be a watered down apology
The guy is a thief and a crim, he needs to be locked up but it wont happen. Any admission of guilt will have him in Jail for purgery.
What a complete loser he is
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If he confesses than he will have a long list of people he accused of being liars and other things to apology too.
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If he confesses than he will have a long list of people he accused of being liars and other things to apology too.
yep massive can of worms will be opened which is why it will be watered down.
Apparently interview has already been recorded, lawyers are editing it before it goes live.
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But he wants to be a triathlete and they reckon if he was to come clean (what a joke) then he has a chance of getting a 2 year ban rather than the current life time ban he has now and he can do his triathlons :wallywink
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Lycra
Just GTFO
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The media are saying Lance Armstrong has confessed in his interview with Oprah that he did use performance enhancing drugs ...
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/more-sport/lance-armstrong-apologises-to-staff-at-his-livestrong-cancer-foundation/story-e6frfglf-1226553992130
The interview will be shown Friday, 1pm our time (AEDT).
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Does anyone care anymore?
True meaning of scumbag is Lance Armstrong
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The interview will be shown Friday, 1pm our time (AEDT).
On discovery channel and on the oprah website.
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The media are saying Lance Armstrong has confessed in his interview with Oprah that he did use performance enhancing drugs ...
Well duh Lance.
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Might ring up Oprah and tell her i cheated in my Maths exam.I could do with a cool Million for confessing.
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Might ring up Oprah and tell her i cheated in my Maths exam.I could do with a cool Million for confessing.
:laugh:
I admit to using caffeine stimulants cramming before most of mine exams ;D.
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Might ring up Oprah and tell her i cheated in my Maths exam.I could do with a cool Million for confessing.
:laugh:
I admit to using caffeine stimulants cramming before most of mine exams ;D.
That was an accepted practice though.Most exams would put anyone to sleep. :lol
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Might ring up Oprah and tell her i cheated in my Maths exam.I could do with a cool Million for confessing.
:laugh:
I admit to using caffeine stimulants cramming before most of mine exams ;D.
:lol
I don't normally drink coffee but a mate of mine gave me a super strong coffee about an hour before a Volleyball final I was playing in and we won comfortably. I served 11 aces in a row in the first set and held serve for the first 18 points! Man I played well that night. Volleyball is definitely one game where caffeine may give you an edge. :thumbsup
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During late night, competitive online video gaming I have been known to consume inordinate amounts of energy drinks.
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ending giving your best impression of davo?
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:lol
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(http://www.stuff.com/photo.php?fbid=474751489228762&set=a.394900357213876.81413.394897053880873&type=1&theater)
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No idea if it's true or not but it was mentioned yesterday on the radio that Armstrong received $16m for the Oprah interview. No wonder he did it with his former sponsors wanting all their money back off him.
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No idea if it's true or not but it was mentioned yesterday on the radio that Armstrong received $16m for the Oprah interview. No wonder he did it with his former sponsors wanting all their money back off him.
Triple M talked to that Mike Keen bloke from SBS on Friday and what he had to say was quite interesting. Something about not being able to be charge for perjury after 7 years has passed and its convenient that he said he didn't dope any later than 2005. Lance himself said he is the hardest person to trust so why should we believe him he didn't cheat in more recent times.
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so here's a bloke who masterminded the largest, orchestrated and most clinical doping scandal of all time by an individual, which included bullying and coercing others to sink to his level, and he expects us to believe that in 2005 he just stopped?
Yeah, right!
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so here's a bloke who masterminded the largest, orchestrated and most clinical doping scandal of all time by an individual, which included bullying and coercing others to sink to his level, and he expects us to believe that in 2005 he just stopped?
Yeah, right!
Yes?
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"I tell you who should get back in the on the bike. Oprah." -Mick Molloy :lol
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so here's a bloke who masterminded the largest, orchestrated and most clinical doping scandal of all time by an individual, which included bullying and coercing others to sink to his level, and he expects us to believe that in 2005 he just stopped?
Yeah, right!
Yes?
you know.
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"I tell you who should get back in the on the bike. Oprah." -Mick Molloy :lol
Like the old joke that If Karen Carpenter had eaten Mamma Cass's Ham Sandwich they would both probably be alive today. ;D
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(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BBAl7J-CYAAIdVP.jpg)
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A Saturday night live blast from the past.... :lol
http://www.funnyordie.com/videos/c53d48a4a1/all-drug-olympics
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I wish she had asked is his name really Lance Armstrong?
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I wish she had asked is his name really Lance Armstrong?
That is so disrespectful >:(
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