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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: one-eyed on August 29, 2012, 01:44:58 AM
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Ramp up the rivalry
Jake Niall
The Age
August 29, 2012
COLLINGWOOD and Richmond are hoping to rebuild their once-storied rivalry, having requested that the AFL schedule the clubs to play each other twice again next year.
The Tigers have backed Collingwood's push to have the clubs play twice a season, with the clubs hoping that a rising Richmond will re-ignite what was once one of football's fiercest rivalries and regularly bring 80,000 plus to the MCG.
Collingwood chief executive Gary Pert confirmed that the Magpies had formally requested the AFL schedule two games against Richmond in 2013 - a request endorsed by the Tigers, who said their developing team would benefit from playing on ''the big stage'' while the club had a ''compelling commercial motive'' for playing Collingwood twice.
''I think the time is right to start building the rivalry that I think is one of the great rivalries of AFL football, which is Collingwood and Richmond,'' said Pert, who said the clubs could ''rebuild the rivalry and the competitive dynamic between the clubs'' starting from next year.
Pert said the clubs had the capacity to attract crowds greater than 80,000 to their games.
''It's two of the biggest and most passionate supporter bases in Australian sport.''
Collingwood and Richmond have seldom played one another twice over the past decade - the clubs have played once each since 2007, with the Pies having beaten the Tigers in the past five encounters; the clubs have played two games in a season only twice since 2004.
The Tigers have been playing both Carlton and Essendon twice - having the season opener on Thursday night versus the Blues and the ''Dreamtime at the G'' game against the Bombers - but have had fewer opportunities to play Collingwood. The clubs have averaged better than 63,000 in their past five games - including more than 70,000 in 2008 - despite Richmond's struggles over that period.
The Magpies are routinely drawn to play Carlton twice - a rivalry that will ramp up further in the likely event that Mick Malthouse joins the Blues as senior coach - and has played Essendon twice every season since 1992, including the perennially sold-out Anzac Day clashes.
With each club set to play Carlton twice next year, Collingwood certain to play Essendon twice and Richmond perhaps also playing the Dons twice, next year may see all of Melbourne's so-called ''big four'' having two games against one another.
The Pies have been playing Geelong twice in recent seasons, with Hawthorn twice this year. It seems unlikely that they could accommodate two games against both of those sides, plus the mandatory Carlton and Essendon double-ups and two matches against Richmond, given that clubs only play five teams twice in the 18-team competition.
Richmond chief executive Brendon Gale said Richmond's developing team would benefit from participating in their club's ''biggest rivalries'' with Carlton, Collingwood and Essendon.
''We think to subject our developing list to the competition and the big stage is important and, clearly, there's a compelling commercial motive.''
The Richmond-Collingwood rivalry has waned since the '90s, having been intense in the 1920s and '30s - the neighbours played in five grand finals from 1919-29 - and again from the '70s and '80s.
During the '80s, both clubs almost bankrupted themselves in a tit-for-tat recruiting war in which David Cloke, Geoff Raines and Brian Taylor defected to the Magpies, prompting Richmond's retaliatory poaching of Phil Walsh, John Annear, Peter McCormack and Neil Peart.
The clubs clashed in 2004, after having an arrangement to play one another in the opening round of 2002 and 2003, with the Pies dumping the arrangement because the Tigers declined to gate share.
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/ramp-up-the-rivalry-20120828-24ywl.html#ixzz24r8Kp6lZ
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Will be the biggest rivalry in footy - again.
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Will be the biggest rivalry in footy - again.
this is a good move and a kick in the guts for Hawthorn the mongrel dogs ;D
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is this because we are getting Clokey? :shh
I must say, locking out Hawthorn and the Handbaggers from any notions of being in the "Big 4" is just the right thing to do.
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Hawthorn are crap. Draw less than us when they are top 4 and we are basement :lol
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Get it done, Tiges :clapping
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There is no reason why we couldn't change the Queens Birthday game to us and collingwood.
Draw better than having Melb playing in it.
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There is no reason why we couldn't change the Queens Birthday game to us and collingwood.
Draw better than having Melb playing in it.
80k +
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Should be played on Good Friday.
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CFC arent silly knowing full well that we
are coming. :thumbsup
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CFC arent silly knowing full well that we
are coming. :thumbsup
Lol at the Collingwood muppet on BF saying that they will lose the Hawks or Cats game which is a bigger game than vs Richmond.
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with richmond perennial pooness also affecting crowds, the traditional rival tag lost its lustre. hence enter the geelong & hawthorn twice as strong crowd pulling games.
I grew up when Richmond were strong and have no love for them but I am against us fixing the 2 game senario with too many clubs. Richmond are not big enough or important enough to worry about. They burnt us in the past, stuff em
It's good for 8 points though. :)
From big footy see:
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/push-for-pies-and-tiges-to-play-twice-a-year-again.969444/
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and then there was this from a Hawks supporter:
At the risk of firing up the richmond hawthorn crowd peeing contest I'd suggest Hawthorn are the ones who should be getting these return games (except against richmond of course)
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Not worth worrying about Makrov: collingwood supporters are brainless, they admin are very clever though
Hawks and cats are only playing collingwood twice due to recent rivalries for eg: back to 09/10 finals against cats and recently against hawks after last years prelim? They took the second game off st kilda? Who played them twice in 2011
Correct me if I'm wrong just going from memory
At the end of the day are the cats/pies/hawks supporters gonna complain if collingwood plays say for eg: north or gold coast in 3/4 years time if they hypothetical challenge them in a controversial finals game/campaign?
Stuff em
...The tiger is stirring
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Not worth worrying about Makrov: collingwood supporters are brainless, they admin are very clever though
Hawks and cats are only playing collingwood twice due to recent rivalries for eg: back to 09/10 finals against cats and recently against hawks after last years prelim? They took the second game off st kilda? Who played them twice in 2011
Correct me if I'm wrong just going from memory
At the end of the day are the cats/pies/hawks supporters gonna complain if collingwood plays say for eg: north or gold coast in 3/4 years time if they hypothetical challenge them in a controversial finals game/campaign?
Stuff em
...The tiger is stirring
:clapping
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Mrakov hiding in a dumpster looking for stories again ;D
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Mrakov hiding in a dumpster looking for stories again ;D
:clapping
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Hope Clokey stays at the Pies now. Get it done Pies. :clapping
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with richmond perennial pooness also affecting crowds, the traditional rival tag lost its lustre. hence enter the geelong & hawthorn twice as strong crowd pulling games.
I grew up when Richmond were strong and have no love for them but I am against us fixing the 2 game senario with too many clubs. Richmond are not big enough or important enough to worry about. They burnt us in the past, stuff em
It's good for 8 points though. :)
the bloke is a crackhead.
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Don't want to play the scumbags twice just sitting near their supporters makes me want to get up and leave ... They are Inbred and lack Imagination , Intelligence and Deserve to stay at the bottom for 30 years , a role reversal is well and truly due
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with richmond perennial pooness also affecting crowds, the traditional rival tag lost its lustre. hence enter the geelong & hawthorn twice as strong crowd pulling games.
I grew up when Richmond were strong and have no love for them but I am against us fixing the 2 game senario with too many clubs. Richmond are not big enough or important enough to worry about. They burnt us in the past, stuff em
It's good for 8 points though. :)
Mrakov, again if you have taken these quotes from another site/forum then you need to post the appropriate link or we may have to remove them because without the links it is technically plagiarism
Thanks
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If someone quoted me and posted the quote on Big Footy, does that mean it is plagiarism despite Coach not giving a crap?
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If someone quoted me and posted the quote on Big Footy, does that mean it is plagiarism despite Coach not giving a crap?
Yes if no recognition is given to you as the author ;D
You could sue :thumbsup
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;D
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Sue Coach, what a nice poster she is
Some know her as Susie
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Sue Coach, what a nice poster she is
Some know her as Susie
:lol
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Sue Coach, what a nice poster she is
Some know her as Susie
Now the dots are getting joined!
;D
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Another purely money generating decision. The Pies cracked the wobblies years a go that we wouldn't share the gate for our traditionally season opener against them. They were the dominant AFL club at the stage and Eddie was demanded what he liked from the AFL. Every club was meant to bow to the greatness that was Collingwood and beg for the honour to play them. :chuck
Now we are becoming a powerhouse club again and closing in on them with off field success (still a little way off with memberships but we have the supporter base to do it unlike the other pretender clubs ie Hawks). They see how big a crowd we pull against the Dons and Blues and now are keen to come and share in the spoils too.
I think we should tell them where to go. >:( We can draw huge crowds without them and it would be a great message to show the competition that we don't need Collingwood to be profitable at the gate. Stuff em :boxer
but we will...just like our Cairns decision.....it's all about the money :'(
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Another purely money generating decision. The Pies cracked the wobblies years a go that we wouldn't share the gate for our traditionally season opener against them. They were the dominant AFL club at the stage and Eddie was demanded what he liked from the AFL. Every club was meant to bow to the greatness that was Collingwood and beg for the honour to play them. :chuck
Now we are becoming a powerhouse club again and closing in on them with off field success (still a little way off with memberships but we have the supporter base to do it unlike the other pretender clubs ie Hawks). They see how big a crowd we pull against the Dons and Blues and now are keen to come and share in the spoils too.
I think we should tell them where to go. >:( We can draw huge crowds without them and it would be a great message to show the competition that we don't need Collingwood to be profitable at the gate. Stuff em :boxer
but we will...just like our Cairns decision.....it's all about the money :'(
Maybe it's about putting a smile on our faces when we smash them twice in a season :thumbsup