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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: one-eyed on December 11, 2012, 11:22:36 AM
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Sam Lonergan
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happy with this pick too
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Interesting pick i would have thought
GO U TGERS
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Need to squeeze the Bummer outta him though
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Looks like a draft of hacks for us lol.
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Looks like a draft of hacks for us lol.
Better than mini Maric
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uck me
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Actually happy with this one :thumbsup we truly are using rookie list to cover injury
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Actually happy with this one :thumbsup we truly are using rookie list to cover injury
exactly dwaino, these types of picks I dont mind especially when the junior talent is so thin at this stage. These guys(Lonergan and Petterd)are at a good mature age, big O at 31 on the other hand....
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Couldn't agree more with the picks there on the minimum salary so not costing us anything and if they work into our style of player could be a good result
GO U TIGERS
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Sam Lonergan profile
Date of birth: 26/3/1987
Height: 182cm
Weight: 81kg
Former clubs: Essendon, Lauderdale (TAS), Tasmanian Devils, Tassie Mariners
AFL games: 79
AFL goals: 39
Richmond has selected former Essendon midfielder Sam Lonergan with its second pick (No. 22 overall) in the 2013 AFL rookie draft held today (December 11).
Lonergan, 182cm and 81kg, is renowned for his toughness, determination and strong clearance work.
He made his AFL debut with the Bombers in 2006 after being recruited from Tasmanian club Lauderdale at pick 50 overall in the 2005 National Draft.
The 25-year-old played 14 senior league games in 2012, to take his career total to 79, before being delisted by Essendon at the end of the season.
In seven seasons of league football, Lonergan averages just over 15 disposals per match, with a career-high 29 recorded against Melbourne in Round 11, 2011.
Lonergan’s tenacious, no-frills approach in the midfield trenches hold particular appeal for Richmond coach Damien Hardwick, who sees the ex-Bomber as valuable back-up to the Tigers’ emerging group of talented, young on-ballers.
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/6301/newsid/152300/default.aspx
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broke carrots collarbone so there is a positive
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broke carrots collarbone so there is a positive
:thumbsup
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Too many eggs in the old Tuck basket. Good get as a B/U.
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Good pick, we need to provide our silk with protection and have the option of tagging if required.
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Sam Lonergan @sam_lonergan twitter:
"Can't wait to try the new sash on!!! To show my respect towards a club that has an exciting future! 🐯🐯🐯👌 "
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Was a Tiges fan growing up
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As much as I hate Essendon plodders.
If you look at the depth chart for our current list (Senior 22 / Reserve 22) It was clear we were in need of a back up midfielder.
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Sam Lonergan @sam_lonergan twitter:
"Can't wait to try the new sash on!!! To show my respect towards a club that has an exciting future! 🐯🐯🐯👌 "
What sash? Will still be wearing a red one.
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Actually happy with this one :thumbsup we truly are using rookie list to cover injury
exactly dwaino, these types of picks I dont mind especially when the junior talent is so thin at this stage. These guys(Lonergan and Petterd)are at a good mature age, big O at 31 on the other hand....
yeah dont mind it lefty, we went big time on insurance in our trading and rookie ...thats ok, we had gaps that cost us a finals berth and at least the club has planned to bridge the gap...I rate Pettard, can take a grab and really puts his head over the pill. Lonergan, well, if we re to believe bummer fans he s a dead set gun...good depth player...Listen Im not certain at alol on Big O but I will say that a number of people did say he played some fair footy at end of season. If he s required then it means we want someone ready to go...clearly he was a better option than wood seeing they were both under microscope
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for me this selection is on par with mini Maric
lets not sugar coat this any more than we have to
A spud of the highest order is Lonergan
Surely there is one VFL/State Grade/Junior that is better than him, surely? Claw is there?
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And then a big brown shark came .. and GI joe got stuck . GI joe got stuck ...
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Sam Lonergan @sam_lonergan twitter:
"Can't wait to try the new sash on!!! To show my respect towards a club that has an exciting future! 🐯🐯🐯👌 "
What sash? Will still be wearing a red one.
:lol
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And then a big brown shark came .. and GI joe got stuck . GI joe got stuck ...
:lol
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Pick 22: Sam Lonergan
Francis Jackson says:
"From the mid-2000s Sam has been at Essendon and he's a player who we think is a really strong and a tough competitor who can play an inside mid role and actually is ready to go. He provides us with a bit more depth in the midfield."
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/6301/newsid/152360/default.aspx
VIDEO: Lonergan's press conference ...
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/video/tabid/11454/contentid/509301/lonergan+press+conference/default.aspx
VIDEO: Lonergan's highlights ...
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/video/tabid/11454/contentid/509159/lonergan+highlights/default.aspx
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Been on Bomberblitz reading up on Sam Lonergan...reckon we have got the red and black version of Matt White (good bloke/great attitude/questionable skills)
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Sam Lonergan @sam_lonergan twitter:
"Can't wait to try the new sash on!!! To show my respect towards a club that has an exciting future! 🐯🐯🐯👌 "
What sash? Will still be wearing a red one.
Yer his yellow one will be covered in Carrazzo's blood. :shh
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Not sure about this selection
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https://www.facebook.com/Richmond.FC
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He fine
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Been on Bomberblitz reading up on Sam Lonergan...reckon we have got the red and black version of Matt White (good bloke/great attitude/questionable skills)
Greaaaaaaaaaat, if you have got that from BB who are the best at over rating their dud team and players then he probably isn't even at Whites high standards
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Yeah I'm not expecting much from him, he's just backup. Sometimes players come good at a second club, you never know. Fingers crossed, but from what I read of him, I ain't bettin on it. Fringe for me and I hope we don't need to use him.
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so looking at him actually play what have we got here.
hmm slow as a wet wick. kicking bordering on terrible. mid who just doesnt find enough ball. will say again we just spent 4 yrs delisting hacks with the same sort of weaknesses in their games and we have jackson and white just like him what are they thinking.
lol kyle martin anyone even if he doesnt make it he has to be a beeter chance of becoming a decent long term prospect.
i know blair hartley is paid to look at and take apart other afl lists but i have to ask who is looking at state leagues. who ever it is is failing abysmally.
why do we break our own mantras, ffs kicking anyone.
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His a genuine mid though
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so looking at him actually play what have we got here.
hmm slow as a wet wick. kicking bordering on terrible. mid who just doesnt find enough ball. will say again we just spent 4 yrs delisting hacks with the same sort of weaknesses in their games and we have jackson and white just like him what are they thinking.
lol kyle martin anyone even if he doesnt make it he has to be a beeter chance of becoming a decent long term prospect.
i know blair hartley is paid to look at and take apart other afl lists but i have to ask who is looking at state leagues. who ever it is is failing abysmally.
why do we break our own mantras, ffs kicking anyone.
He is a rookie. He is not on the senior list. He is only a back up. The club picked four youngsters in the ND. Ok?
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Kyle Martin is a mate of a mate. Collingwood were the only club interested. Also heard that they were into Cockie originally too. I think as another option to replace Wellingham. But St Kilda sent him away for surgery even after they said they wouldn't take him this year, as they want him to have one more good year at Sandy then they'll pick him up next year to walk into Hayes' position. Timing of the surgery seems convenient to throw off other clubs as they were all looking, had a ripping year. So Collingwood looked at Martin instead I believe.
As for Lonergan, any bummer fan I've spoken to who are not involved arm chair generals on internet forums accept that the biggest reason he was delisted was because they had to clean out senior players to make room in their salary cap for Goddard. I've looked out for him a little closer than previously in a couple of the replays on Fox Footy at the moment, and all be it a little slow, he can win his own footy and take a contested grab. Feel a little more assured with this sort of bloke who can come in if we have injuries to Foley and/or Tuck rather than some snot nose. Will be a cult hero if he can ride Carrazzo into the dirt again.
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Some interesting info regarding Lonergan from a poster named bipolarbear on BF. Also went on to say that apparently Sydney were keen but he told them he wanted to work with Dimma.
To be honest, I think he'll get a quick upgrade.
He's been given a very specific role to do from Dimma, get the ball and pass it out, he's there to take the pressure off Cotchin and Co on the inside, he'll be resting forward when he needs a break. He's been asked to step his cardio up a level in the off-season.
Richmond have wanted him for quite a while apparently, even enquired about him the last time his contract was up.
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/welcome-to-richmond-sam-lonergan.983228/page-6#post-26660321
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His a genuine mid though
oh i see. your okay with hacks as long as they are the right type. what part of slow as a wet wick and poor skills dont you understand.
me well im all for taking the right type as long as they have some decent form and attributes.
who knows he may prove a decent get hes gotta be better than jackson and white surely.
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Some interesting info regarding Lonergan from a poster named bipolarbear on BF. Also went on to say that apparently Sydney were keen but he told them he wanted to work with Dimma.
To be honest, I think he'll get a quick upgrade.
He's been given a very specific role to do from Dimma, get the ball and pass it out, he's there to take the pressure off Cotchin and Co on the inside, he'll be resting forward when he needs a break. He's been asked to step his cardio up a level in the off-season.
Richmond have wanted him for quite a while apparently, even enquired about him the last time his contract was up.
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/welcome-to-richmond-sam-lonergan.983228/page-6#post-26660321
francis jackson was very keen on hislop and thompson for a long while as well. we ended up with them but they failed for a few basic reasons. pace skills and an inability to find enough ball.
like francis i like tough nuts but they have to have the basics in place.
ah well lets hope he gets one out of three right.
as for upgrades cant we automatically play two rookies from the get go.at age 24 and us with a dearth of mids you would hope hes a quick upgrade.
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so looking at him actually play what have we got here.
hmm slow as a wet wick. kicking bordering on terrible. mid who just doesnt find enough ball. will say again we just spent 4 yrs delisting hacks with the same sort of weaknesses in their games and we have jackson and white just like him what are they thinking.
lol kyle martin anyone even if he doesnt make it he has to be a beeter chance of becoming a decent long term prospect.
i know blair hartley is paid to look at and take apart other afl lists but i have to ask who is looking at state leagues. who ever it is is failing abysmally.
why do we break our own mantras, ffs kicking anyone.
He is a rookie. He is not on the senior list. He is only a back up. The club picked four youngsters in the ND. Ok?
how many youngsters was that again 4 you say oh ok.
rookies get to play a lot of the yr nowadays back up you say at age 24. id say hes no backup coming directly off another teams list. its funny apparently aaron edwards is just backup but players we like like knights isnt.
me i hope every single one of them is picked on merits not on what they have done where did we finish again.
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Kyle Martin is a mate of a mate. Collingwood were the only club interested. Also heard that they were into Cockie originally too. I think as another option to replace Wellingham. But St Kilda sent him away for surgery even after they said they wouldn't take him this year, as they want him to have one more good year at Sandy then they'll pick him up next year to walk into Hayes' position. Timing of the surgery seems convenient to throw off other clubs as they were all looking, had a ripping year. So Collingwood looked at Martin instead I believe.
As for Lonergan, any bummer fan I've spoken to who are not involved arm chair generals on internet forums accept that the biggest reason he was delisted was because they had to clean out senior players to make room in their salary cap for Goddard. I've looked out for him a little closer than previously in a couple of the replays on Fox Footy at the moment, and all be it a little slow, he can win his own footy and take a contested grab. Feel a little more assured with this sort of bloke who can come in if we have injuries to Foley and/or Tuck rather than some snot nose. Will be a cult hero if he can ride Carrazzo into the dirt again.
hmm so you listen to other posters. me i judge where possible all players on pretty simple criteria like performance strengths and weaknesses. at age 24 i sure as hell hope he can come in and out perfrom some snot nose thats the whole idea in taking mature players.
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The big clawski :clapping
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His a genuine mid though
oh i see. your okay with hacks as long as they are the right type. what part of slow as a wet wick and poor skills dont you understand.
me well im all for taking the right type as long as they have some decent form and attributes.
who knows he may prove a decent get hes gotta be better than jackson and white surely.
Coburg required another starting midfielder- thems the facts.
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Welcome back Dean Polo.
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Kyle Martin is a mate of a mate. Collingwood were the only club interested. Also heard that they were into Cockie originally too. I think as another option to replace Wellingham. But St Kilda sent him away for surgery even after they said they wouldn't take him this year, as they want him to have one more good year at Sandy then they'll pick him up next year to walk into Hayes' position. Timing of the surgery seems convenient to throw off other clubs as they were all looking, had a ripping year. So Collingwood looked at Martin instead I believe.
As for Lonergan, any bummer fan I've spoken to who are not involved arm chair generals on internet forums accept that the biggest reason he was delisted was because they had to clean out senior players to make room in their salary cap for Goddard. I've looked out for him a little closer than previously in a couple of the replays on Fox Footy at the moment, and all be it a little slow, he can win his own footy and take a contested grab. Feel a little more assured with this sort of bloke who can come in if we have injuries to Foley and/or Tuck rather than some snot nose. Will be a cult hero if he can ride Carrazzo into the dirt again.
hahaha so true
what a bunch of losers they were the scum complaining about the tackle wanting him to go for years not weeks.
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Can anyone else post in this thread or is this specifically for Claws quatrains?
Just because you say it Claw, doesn't necessarily mean its true. And just because we may disagree with you, doesn't mean we are wrong.
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Can anyone else post in this thread or is this specifically for Claws quatrains?
Just because you say it Claw, doesn't necessarily mean its true. And just because we may disagree with you, doesn't mean we are wrong.
Claws posts are starting to appear to me only as those generated MS Word docs
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@ claw
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/poll-winners-in-the-psd-rookie-drafts.983280/page-15#post-26690206
the gun highlights the point in trying to make in regards to our reserves
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His a genuine mid though
oh i see. your okay with hacks as long as they are the right type. what part of slow as a wet wick and poor skills dont you understand.
me well im all for taking the right type as long as they have some decent form and attributes.
who knows he may prove a decent get hes gotta be better than jackson and white surely.
Coburg required another starting midfielder- thems the facts.
coburg requited about 6 starting mids them the facts. but doesnt coburg also mean richmond. after the trade and draft periods i reckon we are at least 3 development starting mids short.
we are also still deficient in key forwards and ruckmen. ruckmen. if many of the younger ones dont step up this yr this could look worsre at yrs end.
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yeah be nice to have a list of 60 senior players
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yeah be nice to have a list of 60 senior players
It appears that way doesn't it :rollin :lol
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yeah be nice to have a list of 60 senior players
:lol
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yeah be nice to have a list of 60 senior players
you only need 44. yes i get the sarcasm.
how many genuine mids does a list of 44 need to cater to game day, depth and develoment.
how mant genuine tall defenders should you have.
how many genuine talls
how many flankers specialist position players.
how many ruckmen.
its not hard in fact pretty basic questions which have been asked by me regularly. it seems not too many on here are prepared to answer or dont have an opinion on it.
to answer
6 tall forwards. 2 juniors, 2 development, 2 mature/vets riewoldt. elton. vickery, mcguane. need two.
6 tall defenders 2 juniors, 2 development, 2 mature/vets. chaplin, grimes, rance, darrou, mcintosh, astbury, griffiths and sorry have to say it possibly mcbean. to me thats at least 1 too many send one to the forward line if not two.
16 - 18 genuine mids as a minimum. depending on what flankers can do ie rotate in the midfield it could be more. will do the mids later.
4 ruckmen genuine ruckmen that is. imo a minimum. i prefer 5. 2 should be afl ready if not 3. 2 mature, 1 development, 2 junior or variations of this. maric, derickx, stephenson, possibly mcbean.
take ivan away and what do you have. definately one more long genuine prospect please.
4/5 specialist sml/med forwards 1 junior, 2 development, 1 mature/ vet. hopefully at least half can rotate thru midfield if need be. all need to be big bodied. nahas, edwards, edwards, petterd, ohanlon king mcdonough simon. clearly we have too many. clearly the quality is the reason we have so many we can cut 3 in this area especially the limited ones.
4/5 sml/med defenders. 1 junior, 2 development, 1 mature/vets. again hopefully half are capable of rotating thru the midfield. all need to be big bodied. morris, houli, batchelor, newman, verrier, dea, we could cut 2 here especially the ones who are limited in their roles.
that possibly leaves 2 spots for flexability needs and cover for areas where maybe you have 5 kids and 1 development player so you get a mature player to help.
as far as mids go do a reserve side having picked your senior team. then tell me how many genuine mids are there left, then tell me how many of quality. imo coburg, sorry long term development of mids at coburg well the numbers just are not there and neither is the quality or proper depth.
genuine mids at richmond
cotchin, foley, deledio, tuck, grigg, martin, knights, conca, ellis and vlastuin. thats 10 id have in my starting 22. but even some of these players can be questioned still if they are, or have become genuine mids.
it leaves imo
helbig, arnot, lonergan, jackson yuck, and possibly white. no i wont include white hes not an afl standard mid.
at vfl level nahas houli and king can play thru there but there is no way in the world you want to see them play in the midfield at richmond. it leaves mcintosh and mcdonough both have questions about weather they will become mids or be specialist players. atm for me ones a defender the other a sml forward.
i make it 13 all up genuine mids. we could easily do another 3 in fact we need to do another 3.
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The Big Clawski :clapping
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Great reading claw but your lack of punctuation makes it hard to appreciate the effort. Is the shift button busted on your keyboard?
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Great reading claw but your lack of punctuation makes it hard to appreciate the effort. Is the shift button busted on your keyboard?
The Big Clawski needs no caps :clapping
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Really happy with this pick up. Liked him from early on at the bombers.
Predict Sam will play a lot of games for the Tigers.
Good solid player and in my best 22 for sure.
Heard from a Bombers fan/family member that Hirdy and Sam didn't really get along so both were happy with the outcome.
Anybody else hear that?
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Can anyone else post in this thread or is this specifically for Claws quatrains?
Just because you say it Claw, doesn't necessarily mean its true. And just because we may disagree with you, doesn't mean we are wrong.
Claws posts are starting to appear to me only as those generated MS Word docs
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Makes as much sense as any of claws posts :lol
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:shh
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Good solid player and in my best 22 for sure
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Good solid player and in my best 22 for sure
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Best Coburg 22?
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Omg Sam Bonergan :shh
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Omg Sam Bonergan :shh
Errmagherd
Serm Lerrnerrghan
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Shock turns to opportunity at Punt Rd for new Tiger Sam Lonergan
Matt Windley
From: Herald Sun
January 04, 2013
SAM Lonergan had a feeling his papers had been stamped.
But when coach James Hird told him his 79-game Essendon career was over, it hit him like a ton of bricks.
"It was a two-minute meeting with Hirdy and it was pretty much, 'We're not going to go with you going forward'. That was pretty much it," Lonergan said.
"It left me wondering and wanting to know answers. I was very frustrated and there was a sense of being angry towards that decision.
"I was shocked because at the time I believed I still should be in that team, but I'd seen it coming. When I started getting inklings about my future it was frustrating and a bit of a shock to be experiencing that, and at times it was very tough.
"Even now I still probably don't understand why it happened, but that's footy and the way it works. You deal with things to the best of your capabilities and, I guess, do it respectfully rather than losing your cool.
"You've got to move forward and wait for the next door to open up and you attack that with everything you've got."
The door opened to a rookie list spot at Punt Rd.
But the midfielder's path to Richmond was far from cut and dried. He met the Tigers within days of being delisted, but then heard nothing for three weeks.
"I spent a good month doing my own pre-season," Lonergan, 25, said.
"It was different because there are moments when you have flat days, where you're not feeling great, or you're not as enthusiastic to train.
"Of course that happens in the regular AFL environment, but when you're in a large group ... other guys bring you up.
"But in saying that, I was really happy with the month that I had by myself. I felt I'd trained extremely hard and probably did more than I needed to do just to try and ease my mind on if I was falling behind or going along the same as AFL clubs."
Unsure about the future and with no income, Lonergan, along with former Bombers teammate Ricky Dyson, took to construction work.
Then a week before the December pre-season and rookie drafts, the Tigers got back in touch.
"They said they hadn't gone anywhere. They'd just kept it quiet and laid low. Then on the day I got a phone call about 20 minutes before the draft, saying, 'We're going to take you'.
"Richmond has done very well through the trading and drafting period. I've been very impressed with the character that they've brought to the club, along with the character that's already at the club.
"In terms of opportunity, for me it's not my No.1 goal at this stage to be looking at that sort of stuff.
"I really just want to get myself in absolute peak physical shape. Performances will come after that and whatever happens happens."[/quote]
http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/sport/afl/shock-turns-to-opportunity-at-punt-rd-for-new-tiger-sam-lonergan/story-e6freck3-1226547367625
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Inb4theclawmentionsmoloney
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Cause u a plodder , Sam.
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Something something Moloney
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Who's his Manager????
Darren Lamb??
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Something something Moloney
Before any other mid
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I'll be glad to be proven wrong but sadly I think Hird will be proven right. Lonergan will give his all but he's too deficient in too many areas (footskills mainly). We already have a few triers who come up short when it counts.
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I'll be glad to be proven wrong but sadly I think Hird will be proven right. Lonergan will give his all but he's too deficient in too many areas (footskills mainly). We already have a few triers who come up short when it counts.
Agreed. Still it's good to have people with a good work ethic around the club. If only that aspect rubs onto our younger brigade he would have been of some benefit!
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I'll be glad to be proven wrong but sadly I think Hird will be proven right. Lonergan will give his all but he's too deficient in too many areas (footskills mainly). We already have a few triers who come up short when it counts.
he's only a spare tyre. you wont get players ready to go on the rookie list that don't have some deficiency.
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I'll be glad to be proven wrong but sadly I think Hird will be proven right. Lonergan will give his all but he's too deficient in too many areas (footskills mainly). We already have a few triers who come up short when it counts.
he's only a spare tyre. you wont get players ready to go on the rookie list that don't have some deficiency.
A spare, flat
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All players have deficiencies.the key here is to maximise what this lad is good at.And hes good at going in hard and extracting the pill.The rollsroyces around him (lids,martin,cotch) will dispense of the pill in the appropriate manner,once he dishes it out.i tend to think hes at the club to make life easier for foley,who does the same thing ,but has the added bonus that he can run and carry,which I dont think this lad does
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All players have deficiencies.the key here is to maximise what this lad is good at.
In Dungeon & Dragons and RPG circles we refer to this as min/maxing :cheers
... :outtahere
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Dwaino what in blazes are "RPG circles"?..nothing to do with crop circles i assume.Damn you guys i feel like i have been living on Gilligans island for the past 30 years i am so out of touch with the modern vernacular
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Dwaino what in blazes are "RPG circles"?..nothing to do with crop circles i assume.Damn you guys i feel like i have been living on Gilligans island for the past 30 years i am so out of touch with the modern vernacular
'Role playing game'
Whether that be table top or video game *nerd* ;D
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It feels like another Tom Hislop type scenario
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Will play 1-5 games IMO then delisted
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Mrakov are you prepared to put game numbers on the other recruits?.....pettard,edwards,etc
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Mrakov are you prepared to put game numbers on the other recruits?.....pettard,edwards,etc
Yes.
Petterd
1-10 games delisted
Edwards
10-15 games delisted
Orenn
1-2 games delisted
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Will play 1-5 games IMO then delisted
Dont underestimate the power of looking to prove others wrong. I dont rate him in all honesty, but I really liked the way he came across in that article, burning desire to succeed - thats the attitude we need on our rookie list and at our club.
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Will play 1-5 games IMO then delisted
Dont underestimate the power of looking to prove others wrong. I dont rate him in all honesty, but I really liked the way he came across in that article, burning desire to succeed - thats the attitude we need on our rookie list and at our club.
LMAO ur the best article and highlight reel boy going around
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Will play 1-5 games IMO then delisted
Dont underestimate the power of looking to prove others wrong. I dont rate him in all honesty, but I really liked the way he came across in that article, burning desire to succeed - thats the attitude we need on our rookie list and at our club.
He's a plodder brah. poo kick, poo everything. He can get the ball outta the middle and throw it on his boot. Hopes for the best.
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Petterd provided he remains injury free will be elevated off the rookie list and become a regular member of our 22. The Kid has talent to burn. He will not be delisted.
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Petterd provided he remains injury free will be elevated off the rookie list and become a regular member of our 22. The Kid has talent to burn. He will not be delisted.
Yes he will IMO
Has no unique attributes
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Petterd provided he remains injury free will be elevated off the rookie list and become a regular member of our 22. The Kid has talent to burn. He will not be delisted.
Yes he will IMO
Has no unique attributes
We'll see. He has an amazing leap when fully fit and really good hands. Also is very accurate from a set shot. Mrakov I have watched him with interest for some time and I still rate him highly. I am confident he will surprise many of the doubters like yourself.
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Petterd provided he remains injury free will be elevated off the rookie list and become a regular member of our 22. The Kid has talent to burn. He will not be delisted.
Yes he will IMO
Has no unique attributes
We'll see. He has an amazing leap when fully fit and really good hands. Also is very accurate from a set shot. Mrakov I have watched him with interest for some time and I still rate him highly. I am confident he will surprise many of the doubters like yourself.
Won't get on the park IMHO
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Petterd provided he remains injury free will be elevated off the rookie list and become a regular member of our 22. The Kid has talent to burn. He will not be delisted.
Yes he will IMO
Has no unique attributes
:lol no unique attributes.
neither does 95% of players on AFL lists
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Has no unique attributes
Not true.
He does have a dodgy achillies, very few have those. Except Foley..
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:lol
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:lol
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May be worth up purely for the fact the coburg forward line might see some ball this year.
Otherwise the development of Elton, Asturias, petard, mcbean etc. will be hampered if the ball didn't see them.
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Mrakov are you prepared to put game numbers on the other recruits?.....pettard,edwards,etc
Yes.
Petterd 1-10 games delisted
Edwards 10-15 games delisted
Orenn 1-2 games delisted
Wouldn't be so sure of the delistings.
Petterd is an improvement on MacDonald and King.
Lonergan is an improvement on Webberley and White.
Stephenson is an improvement on Browne and Derickx.
So there's a fair chance they will be kept on before King, White and Derickx.
Surely this shows how poor the list is that Cameron and Jackson have assembled when they demonstrate that delisted players from other clubs are better than what we have already.
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Pettard is no upgrade on King
Soft as a curried ass at four o'clock in the morning, no work rate, had about 3 tackles in 8 years
Kingy prob even kicks more goals
LMFAO
Another CC special melbdud
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Gets more ball
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Who?
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Who?
Gerg....and Planty ;)
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Gerg gets a shitload of balls
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Without looking at stats I'd guess pettard gets more if the pill to kingy.
Grigg is indeed a good outside player
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Inb4theclawmentionsmoloney
lol did i mention moloney that much.
to be honest im happy for them to give lonergan a go as a rookie. needless to say i would have liked moloney as well along with a couple of other genuine mids.
we need mids last time i looked lonergan is a mid. not my cup of tea but who knows he has to be an upgrade on the likes of jackson white and nahas in the midfield they all got games last yr.
the way to look at is from the perspective of players capable of putting pressure on the starting 22
at richmond or very similar.
b/ morris - chaplin - grimes
hb/ batchelor - rance - newman
c/ grigg - tuck - deledio
hf/ edwards - riewoldt - martin
f/ vickery - griffiths - edwards
r/ maric - cotchin - foley
int/ conca - ellis - helbig - vlastuin.
at coburg with the mature players i wanted plus a few the club took.
dea - darrou - verrier
mcintosh - astbury - houli
k martin - moloney - nahas
ohanlon - elton - petterd.
s martin - howson - mcdonough
hannath - arnot - dwyer
king - jackson - lonergan - mcbean
that is 44 players and coburg is set up in a like for like manner which is basically the whole idea of setting up a stand alone club.
hannath and s martin put pressure on maric and vickery gives us some cover if one or both are injured. they are not one yr propisitions.
dea verrier and houli could come in as cover to the sml medium defenders.
mcintosh astbury and darrou are a like for like in a way for the kpds in the ones. astbury is probably the only one ready to play afl but i do have hopes of mcintosh playing almost straight away as a tall running defender.
k martin moloney lonergan dwyer arnot give us mid field options if injury hits imo moloney would have easily been starting 22. king jackson nahas give coburg decent numbers in mids with these blokes. personally i would like us to fiddle with the list a bit more and take at least 3 more young genuine mids.
o hanlon petterd and mcdonough gives us sml /med forward cover and development opportunities
and howson and elton gives us tall forwards and just a few development opportunities in the kpfs.
alas this is all now nothing more than wishful thinking and is not to be.it will be my last post on this subject for awhile.
last yr i pushed hard for wilkes lee horsley and duffy. sundberg spurr and dwyer along with a few others.
this yr it was lee and duffy until they got taken pretty early from there it was moloney hannath s martin k martin sam dwyer along with others.
come mid/ late this yr most likely, i will have others i will push for. for now its all done and dusted and its time to stop peeing people off and move on.
any way all the best to sam lonergan you just never know still think kicking and pace will make it hard on him.
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Would you be happy thou to pay moleys salary ?
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While you are correct Maloney would have been best 22. However to accommodate him who drops out; conca/Ellis/helbig/blasting/dea. It feel this would be negative to the clubs future overall, in a big picture point of view.
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ermagherrd
serm lernegern
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Would you be happy thou to pay moleys salary ?
yes. its not that much above the average.
who misses out can i ask if knights plays who misses out if lonergan plays who misses out. as it is i reckon most would have houli in the side id play molney every day of the week in front of houli.
but the one id drop every day of the week is jackson. i think we would easily get better value out of moloney than newman. id certainly be dropping one of king or nahas if not both for an extra genuine mid the options are endless.
surely if we have a competitive and vibrant 2nds team, developing kids there is not a problem.
the way i look at it is moloney is easily best 22 but he sure as hell would provide ready made cover if tuck or god forbid foley doesnt come up again. imo foley and moloney rotating of the bench would compliment each other enormously.
anyway as i said its all done and dusted we go with what we have. time for me to move on.
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There is only room for 14 "smalls" in the 21.
I would have:
Deledio
Cotchin
Martin
Morris
Foley
Conca
Ellis
Bachelor
Tuck
Newman
S.Edwards
Vlastuin.
Knights
Grigg
Everyone else misses out.
I would assume we will play a ruck. Maric.
3 backs. Rance. Grimes. Chaplin.
3 tall forwards also. Jack. Griff. Vickery.
Of the left over I like Helbig and Dea.
Moloney (29) and houli have different styles of play so I'm not sure if they are the best comparison. Houli looks to me a decent options as a sub as the game slows down.
While some of the younger players I have picked may not be equal to Molony At this point in time I would prefer getting games into them for the long term good of the club. More so on 2/3 times more money than Sam lonergAn.
Of course leadership group jacks will be gifted a game so in reality that is one less postion.
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Sam Lonergan angry at Bombers
12:16pm AEDT Friday, January 4, 2013
DISCARDED Don Sam Lonergan has admitted to being at a loss to explain why he was dumped by the Bombers.
Lonergan, now a Tiger, says while he felt the chop might come, he was still angry at the decision.
"It left me wondering and wanting to know answers," the 25-year-old told News Limited.
"I was very frustrated and there was a sense of being angry towards that decision."
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2013-01-04/exbomber-admits-anger
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Stop looking in the past buddy or you will wondering why RFC gave you the chop
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Yep.
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That article is nearly a month old.
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That article is nearly a month old.
Stop looking in the past. :lol
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:lol
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VIDEO: Sam Lonergan interview ...
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/video/2013-03-08/lonergan-ahead-of-preseason-round-3
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Lonergan pumped for ‘Lonny’
By richmondfc.com.au
Friday, March 8, 2013
“It’s been a long build-up and a lot of hard work, but I’m very excited, and it will be great to be back home in Tassie playing the first one,” Lonergan said.
“We pinpointed this game out about a month ago, we stuck to the plan, and now it’s come off.
“I’ll probably play about a half of footy down there, which is really exciting for me.”
Read more and the full article here: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2013-03-08/lonergan-pumped-for-lonny-
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Lonergan vs Pettard
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Lonergan vs Pettard
they play different roles, an irrelevance, more like lonnergan v Vlas for a spot or maybe whitey/nahas...bit of a way to go I would have thought :shh
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Lonergan vs Pettard
Based on what we've seen it's a non contest. Petterd is a strong show for round 1 while Lonergan will be running around for Coburg for most of the year. We knew Lonergan was hard at it but a poor kick and decision maker with the footy at Essendon and we didn't see anything different from him today.
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Isnt lonergan coming back from injury?This is his first hit up for the year.Ya gotta ease up on the kid
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Hell no this is OER 1/2 a game is plenty
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Isnt lonergan coming back from injury?This is his first hit up for the year.Ya gotta ease up on the kid
Yes ankle injury
Even allowing for the fact it was his first game, to miss targets 20 metres away when under no pressure isn't good. Granted too he wasn't alone
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Looked very rusty.
I'll give him another game or two before making a decision.
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Lonergan vs Pettard
they play different roles, an irrelevance, more like lonnergan v Vlas for a spot or maybe whitey/nahas...bit of a way to go I would have thought :shh
I posed this because they're both rookies. One of them will be elevated before round 1 and it looks like Petterd is in front at the minute. Too early to call though.
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Looked out of his depth
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waste of a pick.. he is no good
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Waste of a rookie pick? :shh :lol :rollin
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Waste of a rookie pick? :shh :lol :rollin
yes waste of a rookie pick
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Waste of a rookie pick? :shh :lol :rollin
yes waste of a rookie pick
Who wouldv'e been your preferred pick Usename?
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Couldn't agree more. Waste
Lets hope we never play him this year and if we do sits never with white nanas and a Edwards or we will cop an almighty thumping
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Will only play if he's elevated to cover LTI. .. What he was recruited for. Imagine Petterd will get the first elevation, then Stephenson to back up Maric. A better pick than Lonergan still unlikely to get a game. That's why they're rookies, and that's how it works. What else can you expect from recycled players and draft rejects?
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Couldn't agree more. Waste
Lets hope we never play him this year and if we do sits never with white nanas and a Edwards or we will cop an almighty thumping
I ask the same question of you too Daniel, who would you have picked instead?
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Well I thought it would've been great if we made a play for Jesse White from the swans.
I didn't get a very good response when I mooted this mid last year.
Missed our chance. I'm expecting great things from JW this year.
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Couldn't agree more. Waste
Lets hope we never play him this year and if we do sits never with white nanas and a Edwards or we will cop an almighty thumping
I ask the same question of you too Daniel, who would you have picked instead?
Anyone really he is a spud
Toy, Sewell any project player from WAFL. There are some good rookie projects that actually make it. Most not but still some do.
If poo hits the fan aka Freo last year and we require his services then we are truly stuffed
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Well I thought it would've been great if we made a play for Jesse White from the swans.
I didn't get a very good response when I mooted this mid last year.
Missed our chance. I'm expecting great things from JW this year.
Yes, he might average two goals a game for the Sydney Swans reserves. Worst player in the AFL
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Waste of a rookie pick? :shh :lol :rollin
yes waste of a rookie pick
Who wouldv'e been your preferred pick Usename?
your sister
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Isnt lonergan coming back from injury?This is his first hit up for the year.Ya gotta ease up on the kid
well said Gigantor....Lonergan may turn out to be the biggest potato head to ever pull on the yellow and black but give the guy a chance.
Every Essendon supporter I have spoken to was surprised the bombers let him go.
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Isnt lonergan coming back from injury?This is his first hit up for the year.Ya gotta ease up on the kid
well said Gigantor....Lonergan may turn out to be the biggest potato head to ever pull on the yellow and black but give the guy a chance.
Every Essendon supporter I have spoken to was surprised the bombers let him go.
Every Essendon supporter I speak to is suprised they don't win the flag each and every year :shh
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Isnt lonergan coming back from injury?This is his first hit up for the year.Ya gotta ease up on the kid
well said Gigantor....Lonergan may turn out to be the biggest potato head to ever pull on the yellow and black but give the guy a chance.
Every Essendon supporter I have spoken to was surprised the bombers let him go.
Every Essendon supporter I speak to is suprised they don't win the flag each and every year :shh
:rollin
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Peter Garrett knew. :lol
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Looked very rusty.
I'll give him another game or two before making a decision.
aye,
at first sniff it doesn't smell good though
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Looked very rusty.
I'll give him another game or two before making a decision.
aye,
at first sniff it doesn't smell good though
Listen he was trapping the ball like he had it on a string, he was rusty but coming back from ankle reco will do that :shh
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Looked very rusty.
I'll give him another game or two before making a decision.
aye,
at first sniff it doesn't smell good though
Listen he was trapping the ball like he had it on a string, he was rusty but coming back from ankle reco will do that :shh
Should be playing centre forward
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Looked very rusty.
I'll give him another game or two before making a decision.
aye,
at first sniff it doesn't smell good though
Listen he was trapping the ball like he had it on a string, he was rusty but coming back from ankle reco will do that :shh
yer, was icing the ankle in a bucket of water when he was subbed off
:shh ::)
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Isnt lonergan coming back from injury?This is his first hit up for the year.Ya gotta ease up on the kid
well said Gigantor....Lonergan may turn out to be the biggest potato head to ever pull on the yellow and black but give the guy a chance.
Every Essendon supporter I have spoken to was surprised the bombers let him go.
Well every essendon supporter I speak to also think Bachar is a absolute spud and Hird and the EFC have done nothing wrong in this enquiry.
Don't listen to those fools much like the scum supporters. All dillusional
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He ll be a depth mid, fair way down the line at the mo, breaking into the tiger midfield s tougher than breaking into camp x ray so dont lose heart in that :clapping
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Waste of a rookie pick? :shh :lol :rollin
yes waste of a rookie pick
Who wouldv'e been your preferred pick Usename?
your sister
Which one?
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Waste of a rookie pick? :shh :lol :rollin
yes waste of a rookie pick
Who wouldv'e been your preferred pick Usename?
your sister
Which one?
Either?
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Still a bit miffed with this selection.
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What's our opinion on bringing Sam Lonergan off the rookie list for Chris Knights on the long term injury list?
Anyone seen him play at Coburg this year?
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no no no ffs. we have enough players who do nothing but give the ball straight to the opposition. if we wish to promote a rookie promote one who can run and kick. either that or give a tall a taste of the big time.
personally i really hope cadeyn williams shows a bit in the magoos to warrant a game failing that give ben darrou a try.
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Spent the first part of the year injured and hasn't played a lot. Good mature body to have in reserve. Wouldn't be surprised to see him get a go soon if Conca takes a bit longer.
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Lonergan scores upgrade
By Tony Greenberg
2:15pm AEST Thursday, May 16, 2013
Richmond has promoted former Essendon midfielder, Sam Lonergan, from its rookie list to the primary list.
Lonergan, the Tigers’ second selection in the AFL’s rookie draft last December, replaces Chris Knights, who has been placed on the Club’s long-term injury list.
Knights ruptured the patella tendon in his right knee during last Saturday’s win against Port Adelaide at AAMI Stadium and has subsequently undergone surgery. He will be sidelined for the remainder of the season.
Full article:
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2013-05-16/lonergan-scores-upgrade
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This was a no brainer, didn't expect it this soon but expected it.
Well done Sam, now repay us!!!
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ooh dear,
what a spud
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He'll go alright so long as he doesn't kick the ball
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He'll go alright so long as he doesn't kick the ball
Well I suppose thats better than saying...He'll go alright so long as he doesn't GET the ball..... ;D
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He'll go alright so long as he doesn't kick the ball
Well I suppose thats better than saying...He'll go alright so long as he doesn't GET the ball..... ;D
He's only allowed to kick it when bombing it out of the centre.
Everything else will be handballs
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Yesssssssss :clapping
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Bring him in for Dreamtime game to tag Watson.
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May play him against Dees.
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In this situation it doesnt make a lot of sense to promote him and not play him
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In this situation it doesnt make a lot of sense to promote him and not play him
and that's just what we've done :thumbsup
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In this situation it doesnt make a lot of sense to promote him and not play him
Can understand it considering hes only played 2 VFL games back from hamstring. But that being the case I'm not sure why they promoted him, it is t like we have a long injury list. It wasn't any urgency IMO
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Any chance he'd develop into an effective tagger?
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Any chance he'd develop into an effective tagger?
Never took too much noticed of him when he was a bummer MrT, but always thought he was a hard worker/scrapper that lacked polish, so maybe he has the tools to be that type of player.
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Any chance he'd develop into an effective tagger?
Never took too much noticed of him when he was a bummer MrT, but always thought he was a hard worker/scrapper that lacked polish, so maybe he has the tools to be that type of player.
I thought maybe he's a bit small but I remembered that Libba became a very good tagger also.
If suppose if he can improve his endurance it might work.
Jacko doesn't really blanket a players effectiveness as much as I would like but he does get the footy himself which is good for him but not so great for the rest of the team most of the time.
I wouldn't mind a Crowley type for us and totally shut down any prime movers influence even if he doesn't get much of the footy himself but you'd expect Lonergan would atleast be able to win the hard ball where he can use his hands to great effect.
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All the best debuting for us against his old side.
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Lonergan, who was Richmond’s second selection in last December’s AFL rookie draft, had an interrupted start to the 2013 season because of a hamstring injury. But he has made solid progress at VFL level with Coburg over the past few weeks, culminating in him picking up 20 disposals, including 11 clearances, last weekend.
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2013-05-23/exbomber-in-for-dreamtime-with-the-tigers
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Hes OK by me as a one off
I'd be breaks a collarbone
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if he causes havoc in the dons midfield with his hardness..hes done the job as far as i'm concerned
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Hope he talks a bit of trash too
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Tucky's replacement
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Is he physically ready? Has had an interrupted preseason and has only played a couple of games back. Would've thought he was underdone?
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Is he physically ready? Has had an interrupted preseason and has only played a couple of games back. Would've thought he was underdone?
One game as a one off you can build up to it and perform.
The second game after a long lay off is usually a crap one.
Drop him for the Eagles game regardless of his performance on Saturday night.
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Wonder if his knowledge of the Essendon players will help him and us more than their knowledge of him :shh
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Wonder if his knowledge of the Essendon players will help him and us more than their knowledge of him :shh
Yes it will because they only have knowledge of him and maybe Bachar. Lonners knows basically the whole freakin team man! We're screwing with their brains man!! We got this man!!!
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Is he physically ready? Has had an interrupted preseason and has only played a couple of games back. Would've thought he was underdone?
One of the few advantages of the sub system. an underdone player can either be the sub or ran till hes ragged and subbed off.
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Wonder if his knowledge of the Essendon players will help him and us more than their knowledge of him :shh
Yes it will because they only have knowledge of him and maybe Bachar. Lonners knows basically the whole freakin team man! We're screwing with their brains man!! We got this man!!!
lol
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Won't have to see him again thank god
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Won't have to see him again thank god
Agree, but he was the least of our problems tonight. Have a crack at the real culprits, not Lonergan.
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Won't have to see him again thank god
Agree, but he was the least of our problems tonight. Have a crack at the real culprits, not Lonergan.
It's a long list
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Won't have to see him again thank god
Agree, but he was the least of our problems tonight. Have a crack at the real culprits, not Lonergan.
It's a long list
:yep :help
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lol hes another dud.
as i said when we rookied him why take an inside mid with no skills is as slow as a wet wick and cant find the ball. geez sammy dwyer is looking good right now.
geez im lamenting the loss of the no more poor kicks mantra.
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Of all hard wick and co. Decisions the drafting and selection in the senior team of this plodder has to be the most outrageous.
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http://www.compymcputer.com/uploads/16983817071271652.jpg (http://www.compymcputer.com/uploads/16983817071271652.jpg)
Not sure if this is a fake account. Doubt it.
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Getting caught in possession by Jetta in the last was so typical of our night and lamentably his footy talent. Kid was underdone too but he was less than ordinary to be truthful.:help
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Getting caught in possession by Jetta in the last was so typical of our night and lamentably him. :help
I don't agree with a lot of things hardwick has done and to be honest the list is growing by the day, but IMO to play this spud on Saturday was his worst match day selection I have seen from him in 4 years.
How can he expect the Coburg players to buy in when he rewarded this hack. To think we didn't even attempt to trade for Brett Maloney yet secured this d grader is criminal.
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Not sure if this is a fake account. Doubt it.
Clearly says at top of profile if you go on it on computer. (fake account) :lol
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another spot on the list that should have been given to a kid.
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lol hes another dud.
as i said when we rookied him why take an inside mid with no skills is as slow as a wet wick and cant find the ball. geez sammy dwyer is looking good right now.
geez im lamenting the loss of the no more poor kicks mantra.
:lol
Changed your tune since you said he was a lock to be upgraded from the rookie list without playing a game?
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I doubt claw was ever pro Sam lnergAn
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the moon is not made of green cheese
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lol hes another dud.
as i said when we rookied him why take an inside mid with no skills is as slow as a wet wick and cant find the ball.
And yet you were hell-bent on us getting Moloney... who wanted 6x the money that Lonergan is getting, and would take up a spot on the senior list.
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Meanwhile arnot had 27 possies at vfl, ::)
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Lonergan leaving game on his terms
By Alex Fair
The Examiner (Tasmania)
Nov. 7, 2013
IT WAS only about a week ago while on holiday in Bali with his partner, Kirrie, that Sam Lonergan decided his time as an AFL player was over.
After 79 games in the red and black, and two more with a yellow sash, enough was enough.
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All at the relatively young football age of 26, and with the knowledge that Richmond wanted his services for at least another season.
However, the 50th pick in the 2005 national draft made the decision knowing he could leave the game on his terms.
This option was something that was almost denied after Essendon surprisingly delisted Lonergan at the end of 2012, before Richmond offered a lifeline through the rookie draft.
``It has been a really tough past 24 months, so it was really the right time to move on and start a new chapter of my life,'' the hard-at-it midfielder said.
``We had spoken about another year at Richmond as a rookie, but once you start double questioning things, you're not going to get the best out of yourself.
``I worked hard for eight years to leave a standard and a reputation as someone in the AFL system that works really hard and does all the right things, and as I didn't feel I could tick all those boxes, I didn't want to ruin everything from the last eight years with six months of slipping off the ball.''
While the decision is one for his immediate well-being, it is also tactically based, as the former Launceston player hopes to return to the big league in the future.
However, this would be in an off-field capacity, hopefully as an assistant coach.
``Leaving a year early will hopefully put me in good stead for a few years down the track, and the way people remember me,'' he said.
``If I were to take my foot off the pedal a little bit this upcoming season, it could change people's mindset, so I wanted to leave the game knowing I'd given everything and that I'm the type of person that AFL clubs would want to have back one day.
``I'm 110 per cent sure I dragged everything possible from my body and my ability that I could, which allowed me to survive eight seasons in the system.''
The SANFL is Lonergan's next likely destination, where the Beauty Point product hopes to get his first experience as a playing assistant coach.
He said his AFL debut (in round 15, 2006), his Anzac Day games (including the 2009 win over Collingwood) and his Richmond debut (against his old club in round 9) would always stand out for him.
``That [last] game was pretty special as I was down and out, having left Essendon and coming off severe ankle surgery,'' he said.
``I fought pretty hard for that game. I might have only played one or two games at Richmond, but they were the ones that allowed me to put some icing on the cake of my career and allow me to walk away proud of what I achieved.''
Lonergan was thankful for the support he received from family and friends in Tasmania during his time in the AFL, saying it played a huge role in him reaching the highest level.
The extra free time on his hands will also allow him to see more of his nephew, Gold Coast midfielder Jesse Lonergan.
``I'll get up there more and visit him now, more so as an uncle rather than anything to do with footy and just be the family support mechanism now,'' he said.
RECRUITED FROM: Launceston Football Club.
DOB: 26/03/1987.
DRAFTED: Pick 50 2005 national draft (to Essendon), pick 22 rookie draft to Richmond.
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GAMES: 81 (79 at Essendon, 2 at Richmond).
GOALS: 39 (39 at Essendon, 0 at Richmond).
http://www.examiner.com.au/story/1892148/lonergan-leaving-game-on-his-terms/?cs=385
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When I think of players who leave the game "on their terms" this blokes name doesn't exactly jump out at me.
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lol hes another dud.
as i said when we rookied him why take an inside mid with no skills is as slow as a wet wick and cant find the ball. geez sammy dwyer is looking good right now.
geez im lamenting the loss of the no more poor kicks mantra.
:lol
Changed your tune since you said he was a lock to be upgraded from the rookie list without playing a game?
wtf bring it up if you can find it. derogatory is the right word for my opinion on lonergan on this site and others. have been nothing but critical for us taking him.
while i agree he was a type we needed and still do he was never ever one i wanted us to take. i dont get where you come up with this nonsense at times. your either trolling or just dont read what people write or only read parts of what people write thus getting a warped perspective.
sorry al your looking at the wrong bloke.
moloney dwyer and martin was three i did advocate and there were plenty who now have egg on their faces.
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Genuine list blocker
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:lol at dredging up an such an old post.
anyways,
with the way foleys pre season has gone i would have thought lonergan was a lock to be promoted. inside grunt and midfield depth anyone.
up forward we have a edwards possibly knights and ohanlon as medium forward options. down back the medium options are endless. so where does it leave petterd atm..
thought it was a strange thing to say at the time and when questioned about it you went on some obscure diatribe about pettard.
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:lol at dredging up an such an old post.
anyways,
with the way foleys pre season has gone i would have thought lonergan was a lock to be promoted. inside grunt and midfield depth anyone.
up forward we have a edwards possibly knights and ohanlon as medium forward options. down back the medium options are endless. so where does it leave petterd atm..
thought it was a strange thing to say at the time and when questioned about it you went on some obscure diatribe about pettard.
fair enough but you only need go back to the first few pages of this thread to see how vehemently i was against lonergan. context is a wonderful thing.
that quote is in no way an endorsement of sam lonergan.i reckon you know this and your being extremely selective.
mate im not here here to get into a bitch fight but i reckon ive been damn consistent on lonergan. slow cant kick cant find the ball im not sure how that endorses him. have a look at the start of this thread first 2 or 3 pages thats all im saying. thats all ive ever said.
oh im the first to admit my poor grammar and english or even education gets me into strife. so its not neccesarily your problem or fault. theres been absolutewly nothing as far as im concerned that has endorsed lonergan in any way. if i can be harsh ive hated the bastard and the club for taking him right from the get go.
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:lol at dredging up an such an old post.
anyways,
with the way foleys pre season has gone i would have thought lonergan was a lock to be promoted. inside grunt and midfield depth anyone.
up forward we have a edwards possibly knights and ohanlon as medium forward options. down back the medium options are endless. so where does it leave petterd atm..
thought it was a strange thing to say at the time and when questioned about it you went on some obscure diatribe about pettard.
it was a thread about petterd stephenson and lonergan why wouldnt i go on about petterd. another i didnt want us to take.
geez my comments were not an endorsement of lonergan but more about what the club would do now that we had lonergan. it was replying to a comment that suggested if we promote one of the mature rookies it should be petterd. i said ibasically it should be lonergan because it was febuary foley struggling a genuine inside player with injury and we had gone and got lonergan in december. a mature inside mid and the only inside player at the time mature enough to take foleys place. the club went and got a 25yo mature bloke i thought it logical that they would be playing him.why else do you take mature players to develop give me a break.
as i said it may just be me and the poor english. but for a bloke who clearly reads my posts goes to the trouble to look up and bring up old posts not just on this thread to ignore all the posts ive put up about lonergan and focus in on that may or may not help you make a point is poor form. trolling at its worst imo.
im scratching my head trying to figure out what point your trying to prove here.
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so looking at him actually play what have we got here.
hmm slow as a wet wick. kicking bordering on terrible. mid who just doesnt find enough ball. will say again we just spent 4 yrs delisting hacks with the same sort of weaknesses in their games and we have jackson and white just like him what are they thinking.
lol kyle martin anyone even if he doesnt make it he has to be a beeter chance of becoming a decent long term prospect.
i know blair hartley is paid to look at and take apart other afl lists but i have to ask who is looking at state leagues. who ever it is is failing abysmally.
why do we break our own mantras, ffs kicking anyone.
hmm when we got him there was this.
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His a genuine mid though
oh i see. your okay with hacks as long as they are the right type. what part of slow as a wet wick and poor skills dont you understand.
me well im all for taking the right type as long as they have some decent form and attributes.
who knows he may prove a decent get hes gotta be better than jackson and white surely.
then there was this.
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Some interesting info regarding Lonergan from a poster named bipolarbear on BF. Also went on to say that apparently Sydney were keen but he told them he wanted to work with Dimma.
To be honest, I think he'll get a quick upgrade.
He's been given a very specific role to do from Dimma, get the ball and pass it out, he's there to take the pressure off Cotchin and Co on the inside, he'll be resting forward when he needs a break. He's been asked to step his cardio up a level in the off-season.
Richmond have wanted him for quite a while apparently, even enquired about him the last time his contract was up.
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/welcome-to-richmond-sam-lonergan.983228/page-6#post-26660321
francis jackson was very keen on hislop and thompson for a long while as well. we ended up with them but they failed for a few basic reasons. pace skills and an inability to find enough ball.
like francis i like tough nuts but they have to have the basics in place.
ah well lets hope he gets one out of three right.
as for upgrades cant we automatically play two rookies from the get go.at age 24 and us with a dearth of mids you would hope hes a quick upgrade.
then there was this. sort of sums up whats going on here. a player i cant stand highly critical of him and the club but hey we have him hes mature and as such we will promote him. no point taking em if you dont play em.
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so looking at him actually play what have we got here.
hmm slow as a wet wick. kicking bordering on terrible. mid who just doesnt find enough ball. will say again we just spent 4 yrs delisting hacks with the same sort of weaknesses in their games and we have jackson and white just like him what are they thinking.
lol kyle martin anyone even if he doesnt make it he has to be a beeter chance of becoming a decent long term prospect.
i know blair hartley is paid to look at and take apart other afl lists but i have to ask who is looking at state leagues. who ever it is is failing abysmally.
why do we break our own mantras, ffs kicking anyone.
He is a rookie. He is not on the senior list. He is only a back up. The club picked four youngsters in the ND. Ok?
how many youngsters was that again 4 you say oh ok.
rookies get to play a lot of the yr nowadays back up you say at age 24. id say hes no backup coming directly off another teams list. its funny apparently aaron edwards is just backup but players we like like knights isnt.
me i hope every single one of them is picked on merits not on what they have done where did we finish again.
there was this which further explains my thinking. hes a dud but we have him and we will promote him. 24 yr olds if you take em are not back up.
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Kyle Martin is a mate of a mate. Collingwood were the only club interested. Also heard that they were into Cockie originally too. I think as another option to replace Wellingham. But St Kilda sent him away for surgery even after they said they wouldn't take him this year, as they want him to have one more good year at Sandy then they'll pick him up next year to walk into Hayes' position. Timing of the surgery seems convenient to throw off other clubs as they were all looking, had a ripping year. So Collingwood looked at Martin instead I believe.
As for Lonergan, any bummer fan I've spoken to who are not involved arm chair generals on internet forums accept that the biggest reason he was delisted was because they had to clean out senior players to make room in their salary cap for Goddard. I've looked out for him a little closer than previously in a couple of the replays on Fox Footy at the moment, and all be it a little slow, he can win his own footy and take a contested grab. Feel a little more assured with this sort of bloke who can come in if we have injuries to Foley and/or Tuck rather than some snot nose. Will be a cult hero if he can ride Carrazzo into the dirt again.
hmm so you listen to other posters. me i judge where possible all players on pretty simple criteria like performance strengths and weaknesses. at age 24 i sure as hell hope he can come in and out perfrom some snot nose thats the whole idea in taking mature players.
then there was this. i dont need to go on.
common theme with all is. i greatly dislike him as a player. but think we will play him. i dont think i have anywhere endorsed lonergan as a player. the opposite in fact ive been highly critical.
based purely on his strengths or lack there of and his weaknesses ive always been dismayed at us getting him.
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Hey Claw, did you stay up all night re-reading your old posts? ;D
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Hey Claw, did you stay up all night re-reading your old posts? ;D
That's what I do most friday nights, Smokey. Makes for a highly informative and fun-filled evening.
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:lol :clapping
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REALLY! How did this get to 14 pages :huh
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lmfao
the big clawski :bow
so effing funny.