Sam Lonergan [merged]

[Chuck17]

Been on Bomberblitz reading up on Sam Lonergan...reckon we have got the red and black version of Matt White (good bloke/great attitude/questionable skills)

Greaaaaaaaaaat, if you have got that from BB who are the best at over rating their dud team and players then he probably isn't even at Whites high standards

[tdy]

Yeah I'm not expecting much from him, he's just backup.  Sometimes players come good at a second club, you never know.  Fingers crossed, but from what I read of him, I ain't bettin on it.  Fringe for me and I hope we don't need to use him.

[the claw]

so looking at him actually play what have we got here.
hmm slow as a wet wick. kicking bordering on terrible. mid who just doesnt find enough ball.  will say again we just spent 4 yrs delisting hacks with the same sort of weaknesses in their games and we have jackson and white just like him what are they thinking.
lol kyle martin anyone even if he doesnt make it he has to be a beeter chance of becoming a decent long term prospect.

i know blair hartley is paid to look at and take apart other afl lists but i have to ask who is looking at state leagues. who ever it is is failing abysmally.

why do we break our own mantras, ffs   kicking anyone.

[Yeahright]

His a genuine mid though

[YellowandBlackBlood]

so looking at him actually play what have we got here.
hmm slow as a wet wick. kicking bordering on terrible. mid who just doesnt find enough ball.  will say again we just spent 4 yrs delisting hacks with the same sort of weaknesses in their games and we have jackson and white just like him what are they thinking.
lol kyle martin anyone even if he doesnt make it he has to be a beeter chance of becoming a decent long term prospect.

i know blair hartley is paid to look at and take apart other afl lists but i have to ask who is looking at state leagues. who ever it is is failing abysmally.

why do we break our own mantras, ffs   kicking anyone.

He is a rookie. He is not on the senior list. He is only a back up. The club picked four youngsters in the ND. Ok?

[dwaino]

Kyle Martin is a mate of a mate. Collingwood were the only club interested. Also heard that they were into Cockie originally too. I think as another option to replace Wellingham. But St Kilda sent him away for surgery even after they said they wouldn't take him this year, as they want him to have one more good year at Sandy then they'll pick him up next year to walk into Hayes' position. Timing of the surgery seems convenient to throw off other clubs as they were all looking, had a ripping year. So Collingwood looked at Martin instead I believe.

As for Lonergan, any bummer fan I've spoken to who are not involved arm chair generals on internet forums accept that the biggest reason he was delisted was because they had to clean out senior players to make room in their salary cap for Goddard. I've looked out for him a little closer than previously in a couple of the replays on Fox Footy at the moment, and all be it a little slow, he can win his own footy and take a contested grab. Feel a little more assured with this sort of bloke who can come in if we have injuries to Foley and/or Tuck rather than some snot nose. Will be a cult hero if he can ride Carrazzo into the dirt again.

[dwaino]

Some interesting info regarding Lonergan from a poster named bipolarbear on BF. Also went on to say that apparently Sydney were keen but he told them he wanted to work with Dimma.

To be honest, I think he'll get a quick upgrade.
He's been given a very specific role to do from Dimma, get the ball and pass it out, he's there to take the pressure off Cotchin and Co on the inside, he'll be resting forward when he needs a break. He's been asked to step his cardio up a level in the off-season.
Richmond have wanted him for quite a while apparently, even enquired about him the last time his contract was up.

http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/welcome-to-richmond-sam-lonergan.983228/page-6#post-26660321

[the claw]

His a genuine mid though

oh i see. your okay with hacks as long as they are the right type.  what part of slow as a wet wick and poor skills dont you understand.

me well im all for taking the right type as long as they have some decent form and attributes.
who knows he may prove a decent get hes gotta be better than jackson and white surely.

[the claw]

Some interesting info regarding Lonergan from a poster named bipolarbear on BF. Also went on to say that apparently Sydney were keen but he told them he wanted to work with Dimma.

To be honest, I think he'll get a quick upgrade.
He's been given a very specific role to do from Dimma, get the ball and pass it out, he's there to take the pressure off Cotchin and Co on the inside, he'll be resting forward when he needs a break. He's been asked to step his cardio up a level in the off-season.
Richmond have wanted him for quite a while apparently, even enquired about him the last time his contract was up.

http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/welcome-to-richmond-sam-lonergan.983228/page-6#post-26660321

francis jackson was very keen on hislop and thompson for a long while as well.  we ended up with them but they failed for a few  basic reasons.  pace  skills and an inability to find enough ball.
like francis i like tough nuts but they have to have the basics in place.
ah well lets hope he gets one out of three right.

as for upgrades cant we automatically play two rookies from the get go.at age 24 and us with a dearth of mids you would hope hes a quick upgrade.

[the claw]

so looking at him actually play what have we got here.
hmm slow as a wet wick. kicking bordering on terrible. mid who just doesnt find enough ball.  will say again we just spent 4 yrs delisting hacks with the same sort of weaknesses in their games and we have jackson and white just like him what are they thinking.
lol kyle martin anyone even if he doesnt make it he has to be a beeter chance of becoming a decent long term prospect.

i know blair hartley is paid to look at and take apart other afl lists but i have to ask who is looking at state leagues. who ever it is is failing abysmally.

why do we break our own mantras, ffs   kicking anyone.

He is a rookie. He is not on the senior list. He is only a back up. The club picked four youngsters in the ND. Ok?

how many youngsters was that again 4 you say oh ok.

rookies get to play a lot of the yr nowadays back up you say at age 24. id say hes no backup coming directly off another teams list. its funny apparently aaron edwards is just backup but players we like like knights isnt.
me i hope every single one of them is picked on merits not on what they have done where did we finish again.

[the claw]

Kyle Martin is a mate of a mate. Collingwood were the only club interested. Also heard that they were into Cockie originally too. I think as another option to replace Wellingham. But St Kilda sent him away for surgery even after they said they wouldn't take him this year, as they want him to have one more good year at Sandy then they'll pick him up next year to walk into Hayes' position. Timing of the surgery seems convenient to throw off other clubs as they were all looking, had a ripping year. So Collingwood looked at Martin instead I believe.

As for Lonergan, any bummer fan I've spoken to who are not involved arm chair generals on internet forums accept that the biggest reason he was delisted was because they had to clean out senior players to make room in their salary cap for Goddard. I've looked out for him a little closer than previously in a couple of the replays on Fox Footy at the moment, and all be it a little slow, he can win his own footy and take a contested grab. Feel a little more assured with this sort of bloke who can come in if we have injuries to Foley and/or Tuck rather than some snot nose. Will be a cult hero if he can ride Carrazzo into the dirt again.

hmm so you listen to other posters. me i judge where possible all players on pretty simple criteria like performance strengths and weaknesses. at age 24 i sure as hell hope he can come in and out perfrom some snot nose thats the whole idea in taking mature players.

[Phil Mrakov]

The big clawski

[Judge Roughneck]

His a genuine mid though

oh i see. your okay with hacks as long as they are the right type.  what part of slow as a wet wick and poor skills dont you understand.

me well im all for taking the right type as long as they have some decent form and attributes.
who knows he may prove a decent get hes gotta be better than jackson and white surely.

Coburg required another starting midfielder- thems the facts.

[Mr Magic]

Welcome back Dean Polo.

[Francois Jackson]

Kyle Martin is a mate of a mate. Collingwood were the only club interested. Also heard that they were into Cockie originally too. I think as another option to replace Wellingham. But St Kilda sent him away for surgery even after they said they wouldn't take him this year, as they want him to have one more good year at Sandy then they'll pick him up next year to walk into Hayes' position. Timing of the surgery seems convenient to throw off other clubs as they were all looking, had a ripping year. So Collingwood looked at Martin instead I believe.

As for Lonergan, any bummer fan I've spoken to who are not involved arm chair generals on internet forums accept that the biggest reason he was delisted was because they had to clean out senior players to make room in their salary cap for Goddard. I've looked out for him a little closer than previously in a couple of the replays on Fox Footy at the moment, and all be it a little slow, he can win his own footy and take a contested grab. Feel a little more assured with this sort of bloke who can come in if we have injuries to Foley and/or Tuck rather than some snot nose. Will be a cult hero if he can ride Carrazzo into the dirt again.

hahaha so true

what a bunch of losers they were the scum complaining about the tackle wanting him to go for years not weeks.