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Title: how many teams have won a premiership with a weak stuff who misses targets ?
Post by: TigerTimeII on March 03, 2013, 10:55:22 AM
and cracks under pressure!!!
none

premierships are won with rock solid defence


Title: Re: how many teams have won a premiership with a weak stuff who misses targets ?
Post by: WA Tiger on March 03, 2013, 11:00:30 AM
and cracks under pressure!!!
none

premierships are won with rock solid defence

?????, WTF?
Title: Re: how many teams have won a premiership with a weak stuff who misses targets ?
Post by: Smokey on March 03, 2013, 11:02:20 AM
Wow, did Rance steal one of your birthdays U?
Title: Re: how many teams have won a premiership with a weak stuff who misses targets ?
Post by: Tigeritis™©® on March 03, 2013, 11:04:09 AM
Username obviously didn't watch the game
Title: Re: how many teams have won a premiership with a weak stuff who misses targets ?
Post by: Gigantor on March 03, 2013, 11:05:07 AM
Rance is not our best kick ,however he more than makes up for it in other areas.he reads the play extremely well,he has pace to burn,is very good below the knees,and is close checking on his opponent.And judging by his interaction with his teamates he seems a very team oriented player
Three years ago i classified his kicking as ordinary at best.However it seems he has worked very hard in that area ,either himself or with the coaches and i would now say his kicking is certainly passable
Title: Re: how many teams have won a premiership with a weak stuff who misses targets ?
Post by: mat073 on March 03, 2013, 11:46:55 AM
If Alex Rance is our biggest problem there are some exciting times ahead .
Title: Re: how many teams have won a premiership with a weak stuff who misses targets ?
Post by: Chuck17 on March 03, 2013, 12:17:45 PM
Can anyone put a number on the turnovers he caused last night, I remember one early on but can't think of any others
Title: Re: how many teams have won a premiership with a weak stuff who misses targets ?
Post by: tigs2011 on March 03, 2013, 12:27:44 PM
Can anyone put a number on the turnovers he caused last night, I remember one early on but can't think of any others

Made 2 from memory.
Title: Re: how many teams have won a premiership with a weak stuff who misses targets ?
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on March 03, 2013, 12:48:13 PM
and cracks under pressure!!!
none

premierships are won with rock solid defence

North won 2 with that great kick in Mick Martyn. :yep

Port had Wakelin in 04 on Lynch. According to Pike he slept with the light on. Maybe he did after Lynch took off his boxing gloves that day. :help

Get over it pal Rance is here for the long haul. :yep
Title: Re: how many teams have won a premiership with a weak stuff who misses targets ?
Post by: TigerTimeII on March 03, 2013, 01:56:22 PM
Mick Martin played within his limitations. he was a damn good tough full back... rance is not the answer  turnover king... the club knows this that's why we now have Chaplin.. rance got the ball yesterday yes I watched it.. he was crap.. sure a few good marks followed by pathetic disposal
Title: Re: how many teams have won a premiership with a weak stuff who misses targets ?
Post by: Judge Roughneck on March 03, 2013, 02:17:00 PM
ARance is anything but weak.
Title: Re: how many teams have won a premiership with a weak stuff who misses targets ?
Post by: WA Tiger on March 03, 2013, 02:19:51 PM
Rance was very good yesterday, agree with WP's comments.....waste of thread this is.
Title: Re: how many teams have won a premiership with a weak stuff who misses targets ?
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on March 03, 2013, 02:27:06 PM
I can't see what u are seeing U.

Rance is going to be a great player for us for a long time.
Well on his way now.
Title: Re: how many teams have won a premiership with a weak stuff who misses targets ?
Post by: bojangles17 on March 03, 2013, 02:39:56 PM
another peurile thread, complete wate of MB, rancer was superb yesterday and is living up to his reputation as best young defender in the comp (U23) :clapping
Title: Re: how many teams have won a premiership with a weak stuff who misses targets ?
Post by: TigerTimeII on March 03, 2013, 03:43:28 PM
when rance is no longer a regular in the team we shall speak again

if he is so damn awesome why did we target chaplin!!!!
Title: Re: how many teams have won a premiership with a weak stuff who misses targets ?
Post by: WilliamPowell on March 03, 2013, 03:55:03 PM
when rance is no longer a regular in the team we shall speak again

if he is so damn awesome why did we target chaplin!!!!

I don't know   :-\ :-\


Maybe just maybe we went after Chaplin because outside of Rance and Grimes (who's been injured alot the last 2 years) we had no other KPP backs ready to go
Title: Re: how many teams have won a premiership with a weak stuff who misses targets ?
Post by: Penelope on March 03, 2013, 04:00:58 PM
at a wild guess id say for experience and depth
Title: Re: how many teams have won a premiership with a weak stuff who misses targets ?
Post by: tigs2011 on March 03, 2013, 04:03:53 PM
when rance is no longer a regular in the team we shall speak again

if he is so damn awesome why did we target chaplin!!!!

Not sure if I'll remember this thread in 10 years time.  :whistle
Title: Re: how many teams have won a premiership with a weak stuff who misses targets ?
Post by: dwaino on March 03, 2013, 04:08:02 PM
PS: Rance is a stuff, not a HBF. He's there to stop blokes, not to win prizes on the Sunday Footy Show.
Title: Re: how many teams have won a premiership with a weak stuff who misses targets ?
Post by: Judge Roughneck on March 03, 2013, 04:54:20 PM
when rance is no longer a regular in the team we shall speak again

if he is so damn awesome why did we target chaplin!!!!

Cause he can't beat everyone by himself. I think you will find with Grimes Astburu Griff Chaplin.

Alex will start to play on lesser forwards and dominate the back line.

In regards to this thread. If you look back over the flag winning teams last 10/20 Yeats they have been some average key backs.
Title: Re: how many teams have won a premiership with a weak stuff who misses targets ?
Post by: WA Tiger on March 03, 2013, 04:55:39 PM
Think Astbury may go forward at some stage.
Title: Re: how many teams have won a premiership with a weak stuff who misses targets ?
Post by: Go Richo 12 on March 03, 2013, 05:31:34 PM
username is :fishing
Title: Re: how many teams have won a premiership with a weak stuff who misses targets ?
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on March 03, 2013, 05:54:27 PM
when rance is no longer a regular in the team we shall speak again

if he is so damn awesome why did we target chaplin!!!!

Cause he can't beat everyone by himself. I think you will find with Grimes Astburu Griff Chaplin.

Alex will start to play on lesser forwards and dominate the back line.

In regards to this thread. If you look back over the flag winning teams last 10/20 Yeats they have been some average key backs.

Yep Michael Sexton comes to mind pretty quickly. :help
Title: Re: how many teams have won a premiership with a weak stuff who misses targets ?
Post by: Yeahright on March 03, 2013, 05:55:42 PM
Didn't get to watch the game but when I watch the replay i'll be keeping an eye out
Title: Re: how many teams have won a premiership with a weak stuff who misses targets ?
Post by: Ox on March 03, 2013, 08:06:18 PM
He's not as bad as Newman.
Title: Re: how many teams have won a premiership with a weak stuff who misses targets ?
Post by: Yeahright on March 03, 2013, 08:07:04 PM
Half time with 1 T.O, which was a rushed kick he picked up off the deck...
Title: Re: how many teams have won a premiership with a weak stuff who misses targets ?
Post by: dwaino on March 03, 2013, 08:09:02 PM
Half time with 1 T.O, which was a rushed kick he picked up off the deck...

Which would be >80% of the kicks a FB would get  :shh
Title: Re: how many teams have won a premiership with a weak stuff who misses targets ?
Post by: Tigers of Old on March 03, 2013, 08:17:41 PM
If Alex Rance is our biggest problem there are some exciting times ahead .

Well said mat.
Title: Re: how many teams have won a premiership with a weak stuff who misses targets ?
Post by: TigerTimeII on March 03, 2013, 08:20:34 PM
He's not as bad as Newman.

why do u think he is no longer captain, his spot is not guaranteed either

Title: Re: how many teams have won a premiership with a weak stuff who misses targets ?
Post by: TigerTimeII on March 03, 2013, 08:25:59 PM
when rance is no longer a regular in the team we shall speak again

if he is so damn awesome why did we target chaplin!!!!

I don't know   :-\ :-\


Maybe just maybe we went after Chaplin because outside of Rance and Grimes (who's been injured alot the last 2 years) we had no other KPP backs ready to go

wp, u r an astute footy watcher and judge, you know deep down rance is not a premiership fb, and his position is not guaranteed due to his disposal and decision making

kpp griffiths astbury chaplin grimes all have better skills than rance, cant have them all in
Title: Re: how many teams have won a premiership with a weak stuff who misses targets ?
Post by: WilliamPowell on March 03, 2013, 08:41:45 PM

wp, u r an astute footy watcher and judge, you know deep down rance is not a premiership fb, and his position is not guaranteed due to his disposal and decision making

kpp griffiths astbury chaplin grimes all have better skills than rance, cant have them all in

I think both areas you highlighted have improved out of sight in the last couple of seasons. I think his decision making is not his weakness but agree his kicking lets him down at times.

I would think as it stands right now he is our number 1 defender and rightly so. He fights outside his weight division nearly every week and more often than not he wins more contests than he loses. He last few games on Johnno Brown being the perfect example

I think he so far ahead of Astbury it isn't fair to compare TBBH
Title: Re: how many teams have won a premiership with a weak stuff who misses targets ?
Post by: Yeahright on March 03, 2013, 08:43:22 PM
when rance is no longer a regular in the team we shall speak again

if he is so damn awesome why did we target chaplin!!!!

I don't know   :-\ :-\


Maybe just maybe we went after Chaplin because outside of Rance and Grimes (who's been injured alot the last 2 years) we had no other KPP backs ready to go

wp, u r an astute footy watcher and judge, you know deep down rance is not a premiership fb, and his position is not guaranteed due to his disposal and decision making

kpp griffiths astbury chaplin grimes all have better skills than rance, cant have them all in

Maybe they have better skills but whos a better stopper? Rance would be the second best out of them? Coach would agree, but his been quiet since WP had to snip
Title: Re: how many teams have won a premiership with a weak stuff who misses targets ?
Post by: TigerTimeII on March 03, 2013, 08:46:32 PM
rance aint a stopper , good fwds murder him always
Title: Re: how many teams have won a premiership with a weak stuff who misses targets ?
Post by: Go Richo 12 on March 03, 2013, 09:02:03 PM
Rance to me used to be what S. Edwards is to WAT but i have been impressed by his progress.
Rance is our best defender. Grimes can't stay on the park, Newy is getting on and never really manned up anyway, Stevie M is a goer but is no where near taking a Key forward.  Griff, same as Grimes.
Title: Re: how many teams have won a premiership with a weak stuff who misses targets ?
Post by: Coach on March 04, 2013, 01:57:02 AM
when rance is no longer a regular in the team we shall speak again

if he is so damn awesome why did we target chaplin!!!!

I don't know   :-\ :-\


Maybe just maybe we went after Chaplin because outside of Rance and Grimes (who's been injured alot the last 2 years) we had no other KPP backs ready to go

wp, u r an astute footy watcher and judge, you know deep down rance is not a premiership fb, and his position is not guaranteed due to his disposal and decision making

kpp griffiths astbury chaplin grimes all have better skills than rance, cant have them all in

Maybe they have better skills but whos a better stopper? Rance would be the second best out of them? Coach would agree, but his been quiet since WP had to snip

I think Rancey would be the second best stopper there. Easily.
Title: Re: how many teams have won a premiership with a weak stuff who misses targets ?
Post by: TigerTimeII on March 04, 2013, 02:23:02 AM
if grimes gets fit, he and chaplin anf griffiths will be our 3 kpp backmen
no room for rance esp with petterd  who has skill and footy smarts
Title: Re: how many teams have won a premiership with a weak stuff who misses targets ?
Post by: Coach on March 04, 2013, 02:36:28 AM
if grimes gets fit, he and chaplin anf griffiths will be our 3 kpp backmen
no room for rance esp with petterd  who has skill and footy smarts

I'm hardly a prude. You need to go to bed brah. Let's be honest, Rance is a walk up start. Chaplin is not better than Rance in any way and the only thing Griffiths (currently) has over Rance is size and skills. But skills don't matter when you get 3 kicks a game. Petterd shouldn't even be mentioned in the same breath as Rance.
In my view, Grimes is our best stopper followed by the prancing one. Chaplin a distant 3rd. They will be our 3 talls and if we play 4 then maybe Griffiths with get a game. It annoys me when people talk Rance up as a star defender but you're underselling him massively here.
Title: Re: how many teams have won a premiership with a weak stuff who misses targets ?
Post by: TigerTimeII on March 04, 2013, 07:14:01 AM
prude
Title: Re: how many teams have won a premiership with a weak stuff who misses targets ?
Post by: Ox on March 04, 2013, 11:36:20 AM
Rance.

Handsome lad who stuffs around at training too much, always looking to impress the pussy.

Another one who isn't giving 100% of his mind to the  full time job he has
Title: Re: how many teams have won a premiership with a weak stuff who misses targets ?
Post by: Coach on March 04, 2013, 11:50:03 AM
Trying to impress the what? I'm hardly a prude....Rance still hasn't come out of the closet? When will someone tell him it's fine to bat for the other team.

As Chappy's follower he will pick up the wisdom needed to become as good as any other defender in Richmond history
Title: Re: how many teams have won a premiership with a weak stuff who misses targets ?
Post by: Crazy_Ivan on March 04, 2013, 11:55:32 AM
If our midfield do their job we could play these 3 down back and still comeout on top.

(http://i49.tinypic.com/2v9p45v.jpg)
Title: Re: how many teams have won a premiership with a weak stuff who misses targets ?
Post by: tigs2011 on March 04, 2013, 12:06:20 PM
Trying to impress the what? I'm hardly a prude....Rance still hasn't come out of the closet? When will someone tell him it's fine to bat for the other team.

His wife probably doesn't want anyone to tell him that.  :lol Didn't he just get married?
Title: Re: how many teams have won a premiership with a weak stuff who misses targets ?
Post by: gerkin greg on March 04, 2013, 12:15:06 PM
Yes The Rancer just got married, but only because it is illegal to be a homo in WA and his parents house has been attacked by anti-gay nuffers
Title: Re: how many teams have won a premiership with a weak stuff who misses targets ?
Post by: TigerTimeII on March 04, 2013, 12:56:01 PM
who said it's fine ... not me

what's next paedosare normal too

screw political correctness
Title: Re: how many teams have won a premiership with a weak stuff who misses targets ?
Post by: Coach on March 04, 2013, 01:02:50 PM
Yes The Rancer just got married, but only because it is illegal to be a homo in WA and his parents house has been attacked by anti-gay nuffers

Exactly brah

who said it's fine ... not me

what's next paedosare normal too

screw political correctness

I am one, so yeah it's normal bro.
Title: Re: how many teams have won a premiership with a weak stuff who misses targets ?
Post by: Rampstar on March 04, 2013, 01:30:38 PM
I like Rance as a player but

1) some of his decision making at Wangaratta was Woeful in particular the instance where he didnt know what to do and kept running ... into trouble.

2) I dont like how he comes across when he is doing videos and stuff for the club. Ive been told hes a pretty smart lad but he comes across as untalented clown.
Title: Re: how many teams have won a premiership with a weak stuff who misses targets ?
Post by: Ox on March 04, 2013, 01:58:28 PM
Yeh, stfu and concentrate on being the best player you can INSTEAD of prepping for the big media world post career.

I mean, ffs Alex, u aint that good boy.
Title: Re: how many teams have won a premiership with a weak stuff who misses targets ?
Post by: Yeahright on March 04, 2013, 03:37:27 PM
if grimes gets fit, he and chaplin anf griffiths will be our 3 kpp backmen
no room for rance esp with petterd  who has skill and footy smarts

I'm hardly a prude. You need to go to bed brah. Let's be honest, Rance is a walk up start. Chaplin is not better than Rance in any way and the only thing Griffiths (currently) has over Rance is size and skills. But skills don't matter when you get 3 kicks a game. Petterd shouldn't even be mentioned in the same breath as Rance.
In my view, Grimes is our best stopper followed by the prancing one. Chaplin a distant 3rd. They will be our 3 talls and if we play 4 then maybe Griffiths with get a game. It annoys me when people talk Rance up as a star defender but you're underselling him massively here.

Do you think Rance would get a gig in anyones best 22? Not necessarily as the prime guy but at least as one of the 3 talls?
Title: Re: how many teams have won a premiership with a weak stuff who misses targets ?
Post by: Judge Roughneck on March 04, 2013, 04:12:08 PM
if grimes gets fit, he and chaplin anf griffiths will be our 3 kpp backmen
no room for rance esp with petterd  who has skill and footy smarts

Lets not be prudish. Griffiths wik be plonked at chf
Title: Re: how many teams have won a premiership with a weak stuff who misses targets ?
Post by: tiga on March 04, 2013, 04:33:02 PM
What a troll of a thread. X at his absolute finest. Obviously not going for a 20 pager as he could have headed one with "Cotchin, overated control stuff who's captaincy will kill our finals aspirations." ::)
Title: Re: how many teams have won a premiership with a weak stuff who misses targets ?
Post by: Coach on March 05, 2013, 01:15:21 AM
if grimes gets fit, he and chaplin anf griffiths will be our 3 kpp backmen
no room for rance esp with petterd  who has skill and footy smarts

I'm hardly a prude. You need to go to bed brah. Let's be honest, Rance is a walk up start. Chaplin is not better than Rance in any way and the only thing Griffiths (currently) has over Rance is size and skills. But skills don't matter when you get 3 kicks a game. Petterd shouldn't even be mentioned in the same breath as Rance.
In my view, Grimes is our best stopper followed by the prancing one. Chaplin a distant 3rd. They will be our 3 talls and if we play 4 then maybe Griffiths with get a game. It annoys me when people talk Rance up as a star defender but you're underselling him massively here.

Do you think Rance would get a gig in anyones best 22? Not necessarily as the prime guy but at least as one of the 3 talls?

Not 100% about being in anyones but certainly most. Would at least be an EMG for nearly every club. Probably struggle to crack a game when the Pies backline is full strength...even if he is better than Harry O and Maxwell. ;D
Title: Re: how many teams have won a premiership with a weak stuff who misses targets ?
Post by: TigerTimeII on March 05, 2013, 02:10:50 AM
What a troll of a thread. X at his absolute finest. Obviously not going for a 20 pager as he could have headed one with "Cotchin, overated control stuff who's captaincy will kill our finals aspirations." ::)

u t the troll
im a realist
cotchin is a gun

rance aint good enough fact