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Football => View from the Outer => Topic started by: one-eyed on March 20, 2013, 11:53:57 PM
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New dry zones to be introduced at MCG games
Peter Rolfe
Herald Sun
March 20, 2013 11:00PM
FOOTY fans will be able to buy tickets to dedicated alcohol-free zones at all MCG matches for the first time this season.
In a crackdown on feral fans, the Melbourne Cricket Club will introduce dry seating in public areas for footy fans who pre-purchase AFL tickets.
The size and location of the new dry zones will vary for every match and are designed to promote a family-friendly atmosphere.
Dry areas have typically been restricted to sections of the exclusive MCC reserve and stands set aside as "family zones" by AFL clubs for their members.
The new MCC initiative will see further sections of the MCG reserved for dry seating, with anyone buying tickets in advance through Ticketek able to select a seat in the dedicated area.
Ticket inspectors and security guards will patrol the dry zones to ensure alcohol is not smuggled in.
MCC spokesman Shane Brown said the move was designed to enhance the spectator experience.
"We're just trying to give people more choice in relation to where they sit when they buy their ticket in advance," he said.
Collingwood is also ramping up its push for more family-friendly supporter areas by promoting a dry zone in bay M9 of the Great Southern Stand for Pies' members who pre-register to use the reserved zone this season.
The Collingwood dry zone will be used for the first time for the Pies Round 2 MCG blockbuster against Carlton on Sunday, April 7.
Hawthorn and Melbourne will also set aside dry members' sectors this season.
But Collingwood cheer squad identity Jeff "Joffa" Corfe said the push did not go far enough and called for a total AFL alcohol ban.
"The terraces are getting more and more out of control and sometimes you feel it wouldn't take much for something very big and bad to happen," he said.
"Even leaving the stadium, sometimes you can feel a bit vulnerable."
Mr Brown said the MCC would dedicate staff to any AFL club wanting booze-free areas. "We would support anything that promotes a family friendly environment at the MCG."
Read more: http://www.news.com.au/breaking-news/new-dry-zones-to-be-introduced-at-mcg-games/story-e6frfkp9-1226601926955#ixzz2O5GuPIPs
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I've been saying for years ban booze altogether at the footy, no need for it
Aren't folks there to watch the footy not get tanked?
So the above means
:gobdrop :gobdrop
I agree with Joffa ;D
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Beer is the one thing that has made watching Richmond bearable the last 30 years.
Dry areas :yep total ban :nope GAGF :banghead
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Should be illegal to be at the footy without a beer.
I've been saying for years ban booze altogether at the footy, no need for it
Aren't folks there to watch the footy not get tanked?
So the above means
:gobdrop :gobdrop
I agree with Joffa ;D
You'd have to be female. ;D Ban booze all together, perhaps the most outrageous thing I have ever read. I miss the old days because I hate what is happening to our game and the country in general ;D
Beer is the one thing that has made watching Richmond bearable the last 30 years.
Dry areas :yep total ban :nope GAGF :banghead
:thumbsup Richo and huge saturday nights
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Should be illegal to be at the footy without a beer.
I've been saying for years ban booze altogether at the footy, no need for it
Aren't folks there to watch the footy not get tanked?
So the above means
:gobdrop :gobdrop
I agree with Joffa ;D
You'd have to be female. ;D Ban booze all together, perhaps the most outrageous thing I have ever read. I miss the old days because I hate what is happening to our game and the country in general ;D
Have had a beer thrown in my face by another Tiger supporter last season
When I was a kid sitting at Joliment station had a drunk Tiger supporter puke on a group of us
When I was about 18-19 had a Tiger supporter almost knock Ma Powell over because he was so drunk he couldn't walk in a straight line and then verbally abuse her because she was "old and slow" (would add the other thing she was called but I'd get myself banned)
Have seen too much boorish and obnoxious behaviour from drunks at the footy, that's why I reckon booze should be banned
Beer is the one thing that has made watching Richmond bearable the last 30 years.
Dry areas :yep total ban :nope GAGF :banghead
Are you there to watch the footy or drink booze?
If you are there for the footy then what does it matter if you can but a beer or not?
It shouldn't if you are there for the footy
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Fair arguments since they're from personal experience WP, but that could happen anywhere. It's against the law to serve booze to intoxicated people, and since those examples you gave sound like the morons were sloshed, it's more an indictment on the stadium. Personally I don't drink more than a couple lights at the footy since I prefer to drive there these days (after it I just want to get home rather than squash into public transport with idiots), and I can't stand pricks spilling their beer on me as they try to squeeze past getting to their seats, but it's a bit rich banning it for all the sensible people.
Dad's got a ripping story back when there was standing at the MCG and years ago. He was cheering after a Richmond goal, some Essendon supporter threw a near full can at him. Dad thought if would be a waste to throw it back so he drank it, peed in it and pegged it back at the bloke's head ;D
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WP, didn't you ask the beer guy to tone his language down? I remember when you brought it up last season. The way you wrote it made me laugh. "Have some of this" and then throws the beer :lol Classic.
Beer, bad language and quality banter is what I like to see at the footy. It's what I saw watching footy, it's what my dad saw and his dad etc etc. She's been like that since forever our game. As long as no one in the crowd is throwing 'em or threatening people then we're sweet, IMO. People there to cause trouble should be thrown out. Banning beer = disgrace.
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WP, didn't you ask the beer guy to tone his language down? I remember when you brought it up last season. The way you wrote it made me laugh. "Have some of this" and then throws the beer :lol Classic.
Languge what language Coach :huh
I was sitting watching the game this moron would go out and get more beer and every time he came back he would spill beer over those in the row in front of him including me. He never apologised
I asked the first time to be more careful and he said "No"
After having beer spilt over us yet again for what was probably the 6 or 7th time in the final qtr I turned and said to him "think you had enough and you owe these folks an apology. He then threw the beer in my face.
If you think that sort of behaviour is acceptable then that's your choice.
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Obviouslty the guy is a moron WP just like a hoon in a high powered car you don't ban the hight powered car for the rest of the community you punish the hoon.
Whilst I don't accept drunk behaviour and the treatment you and Ma Powell have received some of the early incidents were of a past era judging by a perception where possibly alcohol rules were more liberal and alcohol could be taken into the ground.
Thankfully we have progressed as a society since then and attitides have changed but banning it is not the answer. We may just have a pack of drunks instead rocking up to the footy getting sloshed at the pubs around the G and Etihad.
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I've been saying for years ban booze altogether at the footy, no need for it
Aren't folks there to watch the footy not get tanked?
So the above means
:gobdrop :gobdrop
I agree with Joffa ;D
So by your logic we should ban booze from weddings, birthdays, pretty much any social event except for clubs/partys where some people go to get tanked?
No need to punish the majority because of a minority
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WP, didn't you ask the beer guy to tone his language down? I remember when you brought it up last season. The way you wrote it made me laugh. "Have some of this" and then throws the beer :lol Classic.
Languge what language Coach :huh
I was sitting watching the game this moron would go out and get more beer and every time he came back he would spill beer over those in the row in front of him including me. He never apologised
I asked the first time to be more careful and he said "No"
After having beer spilt over us yet again for what was probably the 6 or 7th time in the final qtr I turned and said to him "think you had enough and you owe these folks an apology. He then threw the beer in my face.
If you think that sort of behaviour is acceptable then that's your choice.
Can't really blame the guy if you let him get away with it. I find the story amusing.
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So by your logic we should ban booze from weddings, birthdays, pretty much any social event except for clubs/partys where some people go to get tanked?
No need to punish the majority because of a minority
No by my logic booze should be banned at mjor sporting events. AFL, NRL, Cricket, Soccer because it is not needed. Will repeat what are people there to do drink or watch the sport? If you are there to solely to watch the sport and enjoy it why the need for booze?
Weddings, 21st, parties are private functions not public events so if people want to have booze and get tanked amongst family and friends i don't care
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Can't really blame the guy if you let him get away with it. I find the story amusing.
I let him get away with? Really? What should i have done snotted him? Please!
He might have been a moron and a drunken yobo thug but i am not and i refuse to be one. The only person at fault was the moron
I actaully reported him to security and they did nothing
But i am glad you find it amusing
But if it ever happens to you or if you ever get puked on please let me know if you still find it amusing
:thumbsup
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That's all purely subjective and not logic at all. This is why dry bays are a good idea. If you're dead set against drinking at the footy then you can go sit there, and the majority that do the right thing are still free to enjoy a beer while they enjoy the footy.
Should ban food then too. If you are hungry then you should go to a restaurant, not the footy.
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Can't really blame the guy if you let him get away with it. I find the story amusing.
I let him get away with? Really? What should i have done snotted him? Please!
He might have been a moron and a drunken yobo thug but i am not and i refuse to be one. The only person at fault was the moron
I actaully reported him to security and they did nothing
But i am glad you find it amusing
But if it ever happens to you or if you ever get puked on please let me know if you still find it amusing
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You're a bit of a wimp. The moron knows he can get away with it when wimps refuse to stand up for themselves/others. If it happened to me I would either return the favour or give him one to remember. But that's just me. I certainly wouldn't cop it and then whinge later
That's all purely subjective and not logic at all. This is why dry bays are a good idea. If you're dead set against drinking at the footy then you can go sit there, and the majority that do the right thing are still free to enjoy a beer while they enjoy the footy.
Should ban food then too. If you are hungry then you should go to a restaurant, not the footy.
:thumbsup If people want to watch football their way then they can. They can stay at home. Let the real men go to the footy :cheers We can take care of ourselves
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Beer is the one thing that has made watching Richmond bearable the last 30 years.
Dry areas :yep total ban :nope GAGF :banghead
So true.
I remember sitting in Lindsay Hassett room during the lean years and the most exciting time of the game was to see how many beers you could down during the half time free drinks period.
For some reason the second half was always more enjoyable than the first half. :lol
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So by your logic we should ban booze from weddings, birthdays, pretty much any social event except for clubs/partys where some people go to get tanked?
No need to punish the majority because of a minority
No by my logic booze should be banned at mjor sporting events. AFL, NRL, Cricket, Soccer because it is not needed. Will repeat what are people there to do drink or watch the sport? If you are there to solely to watch the sport and enjoy it why the need for booze?
Weddings, 21st, parties are private functions not public events so if people want to have booze and get tanked amongst family and friends i don't care
But most people wouldn't go to a wedding etc. to get tanked, they'd go for their family/friends.
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That's all purely subjective and not logic at all. This is why dry bays are a good idea. If you're dead set against drinking at the footy then you can go sit there, and the majority that do the right thing are still free to enjoy a beer while they enjoy the footy.
Should ban food then too. If you are hungry then you should go to a restaurant, not the footy.
This.
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That's all purely subjective and not logic at all. This is why dry bays are a good idea. If you're dead set against drinking at the footy then you can go sit there, and the majority that do the right thing are still free to enjoy a beer while they enjoy the footy.
Should ban food then too. If you are hungry then you should go to a restaurant, not the footy.
Agree dry bays are a great idea, all for it
But what happens outside the ground when those people who've been drinking and are drunk start harassing people who are heading back to their cars, walking to the train station or back to the city?
Dry bays aren't going to stop that boorish behaviour by drunks
But most people wouldn't go to a wedding etc. to get tanked, they'd go for their family/friends.
Yep true and you could argue some people don't go to the footy to get tanked either but they do don't they :huh
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No different from the drunks out and about already coming from any where else. That is unless you ban alcohol from every bar and club within 5km of the MCG.
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No different from the drunks out and about already coming from any where else. That is unless you ban alcohol from every bar and club within 5km of the MCG.
But I am only talking about the drunks at the footy. How can we limit the damage from that?
Why do we need booze at the footy?
Only reasons people seem to be able to give me is; it's always been there, I like a beer at the footy, why should I be punished because of the behaviour of a minority.
Question I ask is: If booze was banned at the footy would it stop you from going?
If no; then why the angst? It wouldn't matter would it?
And if Yes; then I have to ask are you there for the footy or not?
If you really love going to the footy then people going or not wouldn't care if they serve booze, raspberry cordial, herbal tea or water, they'd still go.
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I wouldn't drink raspberry cordial or herbal tea. ;D
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I wouldn't drink raspberry cordial or herbal tea. ;D
Exactly!!!! ;D
Either would I BTW but I still go to the footy ;) :gotigers
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No different from the drunks out and about already coming from any where else. That is unless you ban alcohol from every bar and club within 5km of the MCG.
But I am only talking about the drunks at the footy. How can we limit the damage from that?
Why do we need booze at the footy?
Only reasons people seem to be able to give me is; it's always been there, I like a beer at the footy, why should I be punished because of the behaviour of a minority.
Question I ask is: If booze was banned at the footy would it stop you from going?
If no; then why the angst? It wouldn't matter would it?
And if Yes; then I have to ask are you there for the footy or not?
If you really love going to the footy then people going or not wouldn't care if they serve booze, raspberry cordial, herbal tea or water, they'd still go.
The overwhelming majority of drinkers at the footy do the right thing. Go take it up with the MCG or whatever stadium for selling alcohol to intoxicated people, which is against the law, and stop being so precious. If I'm walking back to my car on Flinders St (where I always park, so I don't drink bar a couple lights anyway) and got belted by some drunk, what's the difference whether they're coming from the footy or from another venue?
I would still go if they banned it, but would join in the stink up about it. Footy punters are a good lot and we only have very few isolated issues and considering our attendance records we are doing very well. I reckon I've copped more abuse from opposition supporters in bars after the footy than actually at the footy. Are you going to keep going to the footy if it's not banned?
At the end of the day it's a non-issue as the overwhelming majority do the right thing. Should ban coffee though, have had more hot coffee spilled on me than beer.
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Question I ask is: If booze was banned at the footy would it stop you from going?
And if Yes; then I have to ask are you there for the footy or not?
It would stop me, and of course I go for the footy but the booze just makes it a bit more enjoyable. As someone else said, stop selling food there because you're really only going for the footy so no need to eat.
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The overwhelming majority of drinkers at the footy do the right thing. Go take it up with the MCG or whatever stadium for selling alcohol to intoxicated people, which is against the law, and stop being so precious. If I'm walking back to my car on Flinders St (where I always park, so I don't drink bar a couple lights anyway) and got belted by some drunk, what's the difference whether they're coming from the footy or from another venue?
So just because I have a different view to alot of people and it's a view I hold strongly I am being precious?
I don't think I am, just trying to debate an issue I feel strongly about for what I think are valid reasons. As I said in my very first post on this topic I have held this view for a very long time.
BTW I took up the issue last year when the scumbag threw a beer in my face with Etihad. Firstly I went straight to security and they did nothing - what a surprise! Said they'd send someone over immediately, no one came
I then spoke to Stadium management over it on the Monday and as part of it I included the very point you raised why are they serving booze to people who are clearly drunk? They told me said they'd investigate it and get back to me. They came back and offered nothing expect for a half hearted apology for any inconvenience.
Are you going to keep going to the footy if it's not banned?
Of course I will.
I still go now don't I?
Despite being puked on, despite having my elderly Mother almost knocked over by a drunk and then verbally abused using language no one should be subjected to, depsite being "mooned" in Adel by a drunken Port supporter and despite having a beer thrown in my face I still go. I will always go
At the end of the day it's a non-issue as the overwhelming majority do the right thing. Should ban coffee though, have had more hot coffee spilled on me than beer.
While we are at I reckon tomato sauce should be banned copped my fair share of tomato sauce on the back of the head over the years too and it was a shocker when it got in the old duffle coat
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It is being precious because you want to deprive tens of thousands of people who do the right thing week in week out because of a few isolated incidents that have happened to you. Like I said, I'm not there to get sloshed either, just a couple drinks because I enjoy them, and if anything I'm on your side but I'm remaining objective and believe there has to another way. Firstly tightening the rules on serving alcohol to clearly intoxicated people. Some of those incidents you spoke of don't even require someone to be drunk. Unfortunately there are just too many morons around. Beers should be returned to the plastic bottles for starters. They fill the cups to the brim and it takes a special kind of skill not to drip any. At least they give me a lid for my hot chocolates :banghead
But in all honesty as long as the overwhelming majority are doing the right thing, then no argument needs to be made in order not to go to the extent of banning it altogether. If you want to get it banned then you're the one that will need to come up with a legitimate reason or reasons rather than just subjective ones that come from your personal experience. Personally, I've never had any issues in over 20 years of going to the footy. Though we could be from entirely different backgrounds and deem what is acceptable differently.
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It is being precious because you want to deprive tens of thousands of people who do the right thing week in week out because of a few isolated incidents that have happened to you.
Yep I gave you examples of what happened to me. You use the argument that you never had issues in 20 years but I wonder if your views would be different if you had?
And believe me it is easy to say it wouldn't make a difference but once it actually happens your mindset can change very quickly.
It wasn't until my Mum almost got knocked over, copped the tirade of abuse and she didn't come the footy for a time that I change my views. When it happened to me I really didn't care the puking, the mooning but once it happened to her my mindset changed dramatically. What if she fallen hit her head? She was lucky I was there to stop her from falling but what if I wasn't?
As I said I don't see it as being precious I see it as believing in something strongly. Personal experience is a great leveller in life
What about all the other incidents? And they are the ones we hear about and the ones we don't hear about
Nathan Jones' (MFC player) father is one we've heard about because of who his son is. He copped a one helluva bashing from drunken louts for what? Why?
But what about the others that we don't know about, hear about?
What about families that no longer go the footy anymore because the behaviour of the "minority"? Do you know any? I know some who simply wont go because of the abusive language that makes them feel threatened, their kids get scared. Is that good for the game? People turning their backs on it?
and if anything I'm on your side but I'm remaining objective and believe there has to another way. Firstly tightening the rules on serving alcohol to clearly intoxicated people. Some of those incidents you spoke of don't even require someone to be drunk.
I would love it if there was another way and I am willing to try anything, seems so many are only prepared to try to a point. Though the things they've tried inthe past have disappeared over time - light beer only anyone?
Increasing the number of dry areas is a start but there is no guarantee that will solve anything. We already have dry areas at grounds but it hasn't stopped the behaviour because there are not enough dry areas. Have sat in dry areas at grounds and although people may not bring booze into the areas but they will certianly disappear and knock back a couple quickly and come back. Go to geelong and them at work ;)
And what's a fair split 50/50, 60/40/, 70/30? I would think there would be many who drink at the footy who would say 50/50 isn't fair let alone 60/40 or 70/30
Agree 100% that the first thing they should do is tighten the rules regarding serving booze to those already drunk. Has to be the minimum but I doubt the vendors would have the courage because all they are interested in is making a buck
As for the situations I've had to put up with the facts are in each the person was drunk. There is no hiding that and there is a strong case to say that if they weren't drunk then the incidents wouldn't have happened. Honestly, I don't believe the puking would have happened if the bloke hadn't been drunk, ditto the throwing of the beer last year, same with the bloke almost barrelling over my Mother because he could barely stand up, granted the verbal abuse is subjective but the staggering around was booze driven.
As for the mooning by the Port bloke you are correct no need for being drunk with those ferals ;D
But in all honesty as long as the overwhelming majority are doing the right thing, then no argument needs to be made in order not to go to the extent of banning it altogether. If you want to get it banned then you're the one that will need to come up with a legitimate reason or reasons rather than just subjective ones that come from your personal experience. Personally, I've never had any issues in over 20 years of going to the footy. Though we could be from entirely different backgrounds and deem what is acceptable differently.
Does doing the right thing include sitting back and letting the "drunken minority" do the wrong thing without consequence and then laugh it off as being funny? Or is that another minority.... Arguments can be made for so many situations and I am going off on another tangent and it's a discussion for another day ;D
But back on the original topic?
I suppose what I want to know is how many people need to put up their hands and say this has happened to me and it needs to be changed? How many incidents per game do we need or do we need someone to actually get seriosuly injured before we say we need to be a helluva lot tougher?
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I've seen circumstances when people would fight at the footy but no one had touched alcohol and I knew they hadn't for a fact. I'm a strong believer that alcohol doesn't cause violence, violent people cause violence
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I've seen circumstances when people would fight at the footy but no one had touched alcohol and I knew they hadn't for a fact. I'm a strong believer that alcohol doesn't cause violence, violent people cause violence
Fair call in a lot of cases
But I also know people that when they don't drink are the most placid people in the world and are not violent
But when the same people are drunk they are thugs and are violent
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I've seen circumstances when people would fight at the footy but no one had touched alcohol and I knew they hadn't for a fact. I'm a strong believer that alcohol doesn't cause violence, violent people cause violence
This is a top point.
I'm sick of this society and it's knee jerk reactions and wanting to ban everything thinking it's the solution. Lets try a few things first, such as dry bays, enforcing intoxication laws, increasing security, etc. The same princesses will complain about the rise in admission prices if alcohol were banned, and the number who in turn wouldn't go anymore would far outweigh those who have unfortunately been subject to anti-social behaviour and currently no longer go.
I think it's ridiculous that live Australian music is dying due to new laws that require venues that supply alcohol to employ enormous amounts of security, yet at the footy it's still a token amount of security and police. There's an obvious starting point.
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I've seen circumstances when people would fight at the footy but no one had touched alcohol and I knew they hadn't for a fact. I'm a strong believer that alcohol doesn't cause violence, violent people cause violence
This is a top point.
I'm sick of this society and it's knee jerk reactions and wanting to ban everything thinking it's the solution. Lets try a few things first, such as dry bays, enforcing intoxication laws, increasing security, etc. The same princesses will complain about the rise in admission prices if alcohol were banned, and the number who in turn wouldn't go anymore would far outweigh those who have unfortunately been subject to anti-social behaviour and currently no longer go.
I think it's ridiculous that live Australian music is dying due to new laws that require venues that supply alcohol to employ enormous amounts of security, yet at the footy it's still a token amount of security and police. There's an obvious starting point.
Great post and so true, where does this bs stop. Ban this, ban that, FFS there are so many pussies hiding behind their skirts today it makes me sick.
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depsite being "mooned" in Adel by a drunken Port supporter
Haha was that you, Bill? Sorry about that.
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depsite being "mooned" in Adel by a drunken Port supporter
Haha was that you, Bill? Sorry about that.
It's OK it was his own fault for bagging Schulz
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depsite being "mooned" in Adel by a drunken Port supporter
Haha was that you, Bill? Sorry about that.
It's OK it was his own fault for bagging Schulz
He's lucky it was only me who heard it. Bagging Sarge is punished with death at our club
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depsite being "mooned" in Adel by a drunken Port supporter
Haha was that you, Bill? Sorry about that.
It was you? Are you the size of a barn door? ;D
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Good idea these dry zones. Should also make the people that sit there wear orange bibs.
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Good idea these dry zones. Should also make the people that sit there wear orange bibs.
:lol :lol :lol would you be able to sub into the Wet zone?
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So by your logic we should ban booze from weddings, birthdays, pretty much any social event except for clubs/partys where some people go to get tanked?
No need to punish the majority because of a minority
No by my logic booze should be banned at mjor sporting events. AFL, NRL, Cricket, Soccer because it is not needed. Will repeat what are people there to do drink or watch the sport? If you are there to solely to watch the sport and enjoy it why the need for booze?
Weddings, 21st, parties are private functions not public events so if people want to have booze and get tanked amongst family and friends i don't care
footy is where life stops for a couple of hours a week, forget about all the poo i have to put up with, if I want a beer as well I'll have one ... some people shouldn't be such sooks and I did and still have a chuckle about you getting a beer bath ;D
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Good idea these dry zones. Should also make the people that sit there wear orange bibs.
:lol :lol :lol would you be able to sub into the Wet zone?
No way
High-vis so we know where to throw the cans
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footy is where life stops for a couple of hours a week, forget about all the poo i have to put up with, if I want a beer as well I'll have one ... some people shouldn't be such sooks and I did and still have a chuckle about you getting a beer bath ;D
Glad you think it's funny
Wonder if you'd think the same thing if someone did to you or your kids, wife? Or worse pushed your young bloke into one of the concrete walkways at the 'G causing an injury?
I'm sure that would be hilarious :thumbsup
As I said previously, personal experience is a great leveller and can impact on your views on things very quickly
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Drunks are a problem at the footy.
Putting them together all in the same spot is just asking for trouble.
IMHO anyway.
:cheers
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I've seen circumstances when people would fight at the footy but no one had touched alcohol and I knew they hadn't for a fact. I'm a strong believer that alcohol doesn't cause violence, violent people cause violence
Fair call in a lot of cases
But I also know people that when they don't drink are the most placid people in the world and are not violent
But when the same people are drunk they are thugs and are violent
Yeah I get that but shouldn't these people take it upon themselves to not drink if it causes them to behave in an aggressive manner?
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you cant leave it up to adults to make responsible decisions for themselves yeahright, we must be protected from ourselves by those that know better ;)
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I've seen circumstances when people would fight at the footy but no one had touched alcohol and I knew they hadn't for a fact. I'm a strong believer that alcohol doesn't cause violence, violent people cause violence
Fair call in a lot of cases
But I also know people that when they don't drink are the most placid people in the world and are not violent
But when the same people are drunk they are thugs and are violent
Yeah I get that but shouldn't these people take it upon themselves to not drink if it causes them to behave in an aggressive manner?
Yeah they should but in so many cases they don't becaus ethey reckon they don't have a problem
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footy is where life stops for a couple of hours a week, forget about all the poo i have to put up with, if I want a beer as well I'll have one ... some people shouldn't be such sooks and I did and still have a chuckle about you getting a beer bath ;D
Glad you think it's funny
Wonder if you'd think the same thing if someone did to you or your kids, wife? Or worse pushed your young bloke into one of the concrete walkways at the 'G causing an injury?
I'm sure that would be hilarious :thumbsup
As I said previously, personal experience is a great leveller and can impact on your views on things very quickly
What's that got to do with what I said - gotta love how people twist things, now I condone kids being pushed into brick walls Please !!! Lmfao
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footy is where life stops for a couple of hours a week, forget about all the poo i have to put up with, if I want a beer as well I'll have one ... some people shouldn't be such sooks and I did and still have a chuckle about you getting a beer bath ;D
Glad you think it's funny
Wonder if you'd think the same thing if someone did to you or your kids, wife? Or worse pushed your young bloke into one of the concrete walkways at the 'G causing an injury?
I'm sure that would be hilarious :thumbsup
As I said previously, personal experience is a great leveller and can impact on your views on things very quickly
What's that got to do with what I said - gotta love how people twist things, now I condone kids being pushed into brick walls Please !!! Lmfao
You said the "beer bath" I got was funny. "Still have a chuckle" you said
I asked whether you would still think it was funny if you the same thing happened to you that is if you were to cop a beer in the face? No twisting things there
I then took it a step further and asked how would you feel if something worse happened? Would that be hilarious/funny (granted sarcastically)?
No way did I suggest that you are condoning anything
Just asked the questions
But agree pretty easy for people to twist things to suit a purpose ;D
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Harden up. I reckon CUB would give someone a whack if they threw beer in his face. He's not a wimp
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Harden up. I reckon CUB would give someone a whack if they threw beer in his face. He's not a wimp
So the answer to drunken thugs is to be a thug yourself then?
Is that what you are advocating Coach?
I am wimp because I refuse to go around whacking people and chose to do the right thing?
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If someone disrespects me or my family/puts their safety at risk after I have asked them not to then I will do what I have to. Only a wimp lets those events happen and does nothing about it. Maybe your mother was arrogantly walking all over the place and got in that fellows way. Or maybe he was just careless. But you did nothing other than a whinge to security and then complain here. Sometimes you have to take matters into your own hands. That doesn't make you a thug, it makes you a good family man. You need to lose that backside brah
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I have a respect for people that take the high road and don't whack a bloke for throwing a beer in their face especially after being the better man the whole night. But saying that if someone bumped my mum and then hurled abuse they'd probably get something in return. Anything from an angry e-mail to getting thrown into my dungeon to be physically tortured for their life
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LMFAO at the last two posts
"Arrogantly walking all over the place" stuffing classic :ROTFL
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Care to get the facts about the incidents right.
Yes last year I went to security and my mother wasn't there (sadly) because she passed away a while ago.
The incident with the drunken yobbo and my mother was AFTER the game so there was no security
And BTW I don't think a 75 yo 43kg woman walking near a rail is "arrogantly walking all over the place". Don't think bumping into a number of people other than my Mum is being " just careless". Especially when you can barely standup.
And sorry I would think stopping my mum from falling down and smashing into concrete was slightly more important that worrying about whacking someone. I call that looking after my family. I started to give the bloke a spray while he was going off but my Mum was shaken and extremely upset, she was my focus, as I said that's what I call looking after my family.
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Kenny knows what it's all about.
"Sometimes you have to fight when you're a man"
http://m.youtube.com/index?&desktop_uri=%2F#/watch?v=yK543f0_UKc
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I would have done the same thing WP..well done