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Title: Official Round 1 Team -v- Carlton
Post by: WilliamPowell on March 27, 2013, 06:10:30 PM
Should be on Ch7 around 6.20pm

I've got to head off to "puppy kinder" so I wont be around and not sure about Mr OE ;D

So if someone could post it for us that would great  :thumbsup
Title: Re: Official Round 1 Team -v- Carlton
Post by: one-eyed on March 27, 2013, 06:23:19 PM
No Vlastuin
Title: Re: Official Round 1 Team -v- Carlton
Post by: Bengal on March 27, 2013, 06:25:45 PM
No Petterd
Title: Re: Official Round 1 Team -v- Carlton
Post by: dwaino on March 27, 2013, 06:30:40 PM
 :help
Title: Re: Official Round 1 Team -v- Carlton
Post by: one-eyed on March 27, 2013, 06:31:35 PM
Hello AFL website! It's 6.30pm. Where are the teams?  ::)
Title: Re: Official Round 1 Team -v- Carlton
Post by: dwaino on March 27, 2013, 06:31:54 PM
B: Morris, Rance, Chaplin

HB: Batchelor, Newman, Houli

C: Grigg, Cotchin, Conca

HF: Deledio, Edwards, Jackson

F: McGuane, Riewoldt, Nahas

R: Maric, Martin, Tuck

IC: Griffiths, King, Vickery, Ellis

Emergencies: White, Vlastuin, Knights

http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2013-03-27/chaplin-in-for-tigers
Title: Re: Official Round 1 Team -v- Carlton
Post by: Bengal on March 27, 2013, 06:33:56 PM
obviously not how they will line up.
Title: Re: Official Round 1 Team -v- Carlton
Post by: one-eyed on March 27, 2013, 06:34:32 PM
CARLTON

B: Yarran, Jamison, Henderson
HB: Tuohy, Duigan, Gibbs
C: Simpson, Carrazzo, Robinson
HF: Judd, Walker, Garlett
F: Betts, Casboult, Hampson
Foll: Kreuzer, Murphy, McLean
Int: Armfield, Bootsma, Joseph, Lucas

Emerg: Bell, Laidler, Rowe
Title: Re: Official Round 1 Team -v- Carlton
Post by: Coach on March 27, 2013, 06:34:56 PM
I guess Picky is a bit stiff but very happy to see Batch get named. Reckon two of those EMG's had better pre-seasons than Jacko but then again they aren't in the LG ;D

Footy is finally back. Go you tigers
Title: Re: Official Round 1 Team -v- Carlton
Post by: tiger101 on March 27, 2013, 06:35:11 PM
Nahas is in but Vlastuin isn't :o even White had a better pre-season from the games I saw on tv.

Title: Re: Official Round 1 Team -v- Carlton
Post by: dwaino on March 27, 2013, 06:35:45 PM
Seems like we're manned to handle a tall Carlton forward line.
Title: Re: Official Round 1 Team -v- Carlton
Post by: Judge Roughneck on March 27, 2013, 06:38:21 PM
Shane Edwards CHF I assume?

Jackson/mcgaune/king. Oh no.  :o


B: Morris, Rance, Chaplin

HB: Batchelor, Newman, Houli

C: Grigg, Cotchin, Conca

HF: Deledio, Edwards, Jackson

F: McGuane, Riewoldt, Nahas

R: Maric, Martin, Tuck

IC: Griffiths, King, Vickery, Ellis

Emergencies: White, Vlastuin, Knights

http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2013-03-27/chaplin-in-for-tigers
Title: Re: Official Round 1 Team -v- Carlton
Post by: one-eyed on March 27, 2013, 06:41:08 PM
I guess Picky is a bit stiff
Petterd picked up a groin? injury apparently, Coach.

Shane Edwards CHF I assume?
Yep it's Shane, Bents.
Title: Re: Official Round 1 Team -v- Carlton
Post by: Fluffy Tiger on March 27, 2013, 06:43:03 PM
Nahas is in but Vlastuin isn't :o even White had a better pre-season from the games I saw on tv.

Yeah this confused me a bit too, only thing I could think of is that we think Nahas and King give us better foward line preasure to stop the Yarran etc. To me White should be ahead of Nahas based on the pre season.
Title: Re: Official Round 1 Team -v- Carlton
Post by: Simonator on March 27, 2013, 06:49:55 PM
Sigh, I'm normally super positive but with a team consisting of nahas, jackson, mcgaune, instead of vlastuin, white and petterd, I recon we will lose. Dont know what they're thinking.
Title: Re: Official Round 1 Team -v- Carlton
Post by: Judge Roughneck on March 27, 2013, 06:58:04 PM
Sigh, I'm normally super positive but with a team consisting of nahas, jackson, mcgaune, instead of vlastuin, white and petterd, I recon we will lose. Dont know what they're thinking.

I think nahas is less shocking than mcgaune. Jackson. King.

In whatever order that'd be the 18-22 in hardwick eyes
Title: Re: Official Round 1 Team -v- Carlton
Post by: Dubstep Dookie on March 27, 2013, 06:59:46 PM
Sweet Geez mother of god  :o
Title: Re: Official Round 1 Team -v- Carlton
Post by: dwaino on March 27, 2013, 07:01:42 PM
McGuane  :clapping

Will crash and bash, kick a couple and do his bit.

Hoping we've watched the NAB GF and Nahas' role is keep Yarran close to our goals and can't attack off their half back.
Title: Re: Official Round 1 Team -v- Carlton
Post by: tony_montana on March 27, 2013, 07:03:38 PM
I guess it was silly to entertain hope that Jackson was going to miss out..

Bit surprised that Batch made the team but happy about it.

Thought Vlastuin was a lock tbh.
Title: Re: Official Round 1 Team -v- Carlton
Post by: Judge Roughneck on March 27, 2013, 07:08:02 PM
Bach bog  :shh
Title: Re: Official Round 1 Team -v- Carlton
Post by: pmac21 on March 27, 2013, 07:12:04 PM
Pretty ordinary team IMO, Carlton seem a much better unit on paper.
Title: Re: Official Round 1 Team -v- Carlton
Post by: Smokey on March 27, 2013, 07:16:36 PM
All the club talk seemed to point towards Floss getting his first game.  A late change maybe?
Title: Re: Official Round 1 Team -v- Carlton
Post by: Phil Mrakov on March 27, 2013, 07:16:55 PM
Pretty ordinary team IMO, Carlton seem a much better unit on paper.

Correct.

Title: Re: Official Round 1 Team -v- Carlton
Post by: dwaino on March 27, 2013, 07:24:23 PM
Just to change the mood and to add something a little more positive. Regardless of injuries, we can chuck up a number of names that can enter this side throughout the year: Foley, Grimes, Petterd, Stephenson, White, Vlastuin, Knights, Arnot. Think I've missed a couple but looks like we're finally batting past 22.
Title: Re: Official Round 1 Team -v- Carlton
Post by: tony_montana on March 27, 2013, 07:25:03 PM
All the club talk seemed to point towards Floss getting his first game.  A late change maybe?

Weather dependant maybe?
Title: Re: Official Round 1 Team -v- Carlton
Post by: Rampstar on March 27, 2013, 07:58:16 PM
on paper Carlton by at least 6 goals. im now tipping carlton by 57. very disappointing r1 team imho.
Title: Re: Official Round 1 Team -v- Carlton
Post by: Coach on March 27, 2013, 08:10:34 PM
Just to change the mood and to add something a little more positive. Regardless of injuries, we can chuck up a number of names that can enter this side throughout the year: Foley, Grimes, Petterd, Stephenson, White, Vlastuin, Knights, Arnot. Think I've missed a couple but looks like we're finally batting past 22.


All those players were here last season bar Stephenson (very average player), Picky.R (average player), Knights (struggles to get on the park and has struggled with form lately) and Tigger (first year player). I think our young players improvement will improve the depth more than some of our prize recruits. Post probably sounds negative but just trying to look at things both ways. Knights & Petterd could end up being decent recruits which would help. The Coach pays no attention to pre-season though  ;D

on paper Carlton by at least 6 goals. im now tipping carlton by 57. very disappointing r1 team imho.

And which inclusion would suddenly make us a 10 goal better side? Or are you trolling?
Title: Re: Official Round 1 Team -v- Carlton
Post by: gerkin greg on March 27, 2013, 08:13:37 PM
positive is that choco has enough giant coins left over to payout dimma's contract himself, can't wait for 2014, reckon we'll win the minor premiership under the big boss man

astute move tigres
Title: Re: Official Round 1 Team -v- Carlton
Post by: WA Tiger on March 27, 2013, 08:13:41 PM
Don't like it...very very surprised Vlastuin is not in, actually can't believe it, White, very stiff....
Title: Re: Official Round 1 Team -v- Carlton
Post by: Coach on March 27, 2013, 08:14:54 PM
positive is that choco has enough giant coins left over to payout dimma's contract himself, can't wait for 2014, reckon we'll win the minor premiership under the bid boss man

Awww geeeeee. Loves a minor premiership does Choc
Title: Re: Official Round 1 Team -v- Carlton
Post by: WilliamPowell on March 27, 2013, 08:21:05 PM
Great to see good consistent pre-season form being rewarded....NOT

That's the disappointing thing for mine.

Disappointed Vlaustin isn't named, thought he'd done more than enough to warrant a debut. Just his decision making alone should've been enough over some others

Have concerns about Kingy; has he had enough game time leading into round 1  :huh

Not sold on Nahas either, he gives us 10-20 minute cameos and that's about it not what we need Tomorrow night IMHO

Oh well....

 :gotigers



Title: Re: Official Round 1 Team -v- Carlton
Post by: dwaino on March 27, 2013, 08:24:57 PM
Just to change the mood and to add something a little more positive. Regardless of injuries, we can chuck up a number of names that can enter this side throughout the year: Foley, Grimes, Petterd, Stephenson, White, Vlastuin, Knights, Arnot. Think I've missed a couple but looks like we're finally batting past 22.


All those players were here last season bar Stephenson (very average player), Picky.R (average player), Knights (struggles to get on the park and has struggled with form lately) and Tigger (first year player). I think our young players improvement will improve the depth more than some of our prize recruits. Post probably sounds negative but just trying to look at things both ways. Knights & Petterd could end up being decent recruits which would help. The Coach pays no attention to pre-season though  ;D


I was going to give the blokes like Vlastuin and Knights a different heading like 'optimistic unknowns' ;D but the list then seemed too slim so I just lumped them together. I guess I was tying to point out that the named team isn't bad and there still guys to come in, also blokes to cover a handful of injuries. Really agree that the improvement (if there is any) will come from the newbs. But realistically who are we likely to see this year besides Vlastuin, Elton and Arnot? I really hoping the immediate improvement comes from guys like Conca, Batchelor and Vickery to stand up so we can have 10'ish unarguably good players instead of just 4 or 5. Was going to add this in the original post but just CBF at the time but you called me out ;D

I just think now though that we have 27 or 28 actual players we can play every week (fitness pending).
Title: Re: Official Round 1 Team -v- Carlton
Post by: YellowandBlackBlood on March 27, 2013, 08:26:23 PM
The selectors have showed NO imagination.  They have played it TOO safe.
How many times do the same names have to fail in the same game before someone actually decides they are NOT the future of the club!
I don't mind having them in the 40 as back ups but the names of McGuane et al are definitely NOT best 22 now at the club.
Hope two drop out for Vlastuin and Knights. :pray :pray :pray
Title: Re: Official Round 1 Team -v- Carlton
Post by: JVT on March 27, 2013, 08:29:36 PM
Great to see good consistent pre-season form being rewarded....NOT

That's the disappointing thing for mine.

Disappointed Vlaustin isn't named, thought he'd done more than enough to warrant a debut. Just his decision making alone should've been enough over some others

Have concerns about Kingy; has he had enough game time leading into round 1  :huh

Not sold on Nahas either, he gives us 10-20 minute cameos and that's about it not what we need Tomorrow night IMHO

Oh well....

 :gotigers
Agreed. Cannot understand how both Nahas and King have been named. Disappointing.
Title: Re: Official Round 1 Team -v- Carlton
Post by: WA Tiger on March 27, 2013, 08:34:53 PM
Great to see good consistent pre-season form being rewarded....NOT

That's the disappointing thing for mine.

Disappointed Vlaustin isn't named, thought he'd done more than enough to warrant a debut. Just his decision making alone should've been enough over some others

Have concerns about Kingy; has he had enough game time leading into round 1  :huh

Not sold on Nahas either, he gives us 10-20 minute cameos and that's about it not what we need Tomorrow night IMHO

Oh well....

 :gotigers

Agree! I am a little dumbfounded, but I will be there, landed in Melbourne this evening and enjoying a couple of beers now...!!
Title: Re: Official Round 1 Team -v- Carlton
Post by: tony_montana on March 27, 2013, 08:37:27 PM
Great to see good consistent pre-season form being rewarded....NOT

That's the disappointing thing for mine.

Disappointed Vlaustin isn't named, thought he'd done more than enough to warrant a debut. Just his decision making alone should've been enough over some others

Have concerns about Kingy; has he had enough game time leading into round 1  :huh

Not sold on Nahas either, he gives us 10-20 minute cameos and that's about it not what we need Tomorrow night IMHO

Oh well....

 :gotigers

Good post Willy
Title: Re: Official Round 1 Team -v- Carlton
Post by: dwaino on March 27, 2013, 08:39:43 PM
The selectors have showed NO imagination.  They have played it TOO safe.
How many times do the same names have to fail in the same game before someone actually decides they are NOT the future of the club!
I don't mind having them in the 40 as back ups but the names of McGuane et al are definitely NOT best 22 now at the club.
Hope two drop out for Vlastuin and Knights. :pray :pray :pray

Like King just recently said on 360, we've obviously gone for a settled side. And to kind of steal what MaClure said about Melbourne because it applies to everyone (Dunstall said something similar on Triple M this arvo), this is round 1 and it's not worth rushing back unfit and unready players including first years. Our youngest and least experienced heading in tomorrow night is Ellis, and with the hype and atmosphere surrounding the game I'm happy with that.

The team likely was selected ages ago and baring any stellar pre-season performances, these players were required just to stay fit and to 'go through the motions' leading up to round 1.
Title: Re: Official Round 1 Team -v- Carlton
Post by: smasha on March 27, 2013, 08:41:00 PM
LOL Vlad sold the team lists to channel 7.
Title: Re: Official Round 1 Team -v- Carlton
Post by: Tigeritis™©® on March 27, 2013, 08:46:19 PM
Knights a late change.
Secret weapon.  :shh

.....but you didn't here it from me.  ;D
Title: Re: Official Round 1 Team -v- Carlton
Post by: tigs2011 on March 27, 2013, 08:50:16 PM
Whose Griff gunna play on? Unless Rancer takes Walker?
Title: Re: Official Round 1 Team -v- Carlton
Post by: the claw on March 27, 2013, 09:01:25 PM
lol what an ordinary team.
Title: Re: Official Round 1 Team -v- Carlton
Post by: Lozza on March 27, 2013, 09:03:20 PM
Am already visualising a couple of brain-fades resulting in 50 metre penalties courtesy of Mr Mcguane, i really hope he has had plenty of anger management counselling from the resident psycologist over the off season. Just cant afford to give the scum any easy metres tomorrow night. I suppose one saving grace is that these days he is up the other end of the ground.
Title: Re: Official Round 1 Team -v- Carlton
Post by: the claw on March 27, 2013, 09:12:51 PM
would have to be the shortest carlton side i have ever seen picked against us reckon rowe or laidler will come into that team if not both.
Title: Re: Official Round 1 Team -v- Carlton
Post by: WilliamPowell on March 27, 2013, 09:23:59 PM
LOL Vlad sold the team lists to channel 7.

And you are jumping up and down about this in 2013 ::)

Was the same last year

As part of the current broadcast agreement Ch7 paid extra for teams to be announced first
Title: Re: Official Round 1 Team -v- Carlton
Post by: WilliamPowell on March 27, 2013, 09:26:50 PM
Like King just recently said on 360, we've obviously gone for a settled side. And to kind of steal what MaClure said about Melbourne because it applies to everyone (Dunstall said something similar on Triple M this arvo), this is round 1 and it's not worth rushing back unfit and unready players including first years. Our youngest and least experienced heading in tomorrow night is Ellis, and with the hype and atmosphere surrounding the game I'm happy with that.

The team likely was selected ages ago and baring any stellar pre-season performances, these players were required just to stay fit and to 'go through the motions' leading up to round 1.

Understand the logic but what about Kingy, he's barely played so is he going to fit enough.

You could actually use the same argument regarding Chapplin, played a half against the Hawks and the full game IIRC against the Bullies - not exactly alot of match practice. But I supose the counter argument is Chaplin is a seasoned condition player  :-\

Can I say the one that annoys me and it always does depsite knowing the answer is how does Jackson get a game? Poor decision even worse skill errors. If we've got as much depth as we kept getting told then why do we persist with the usual suspects?
Title: Re: Official Round 1 Team -v- Carlton
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on March 27, 2013, 09:35:37 PM
Such a 2012 type side.
The club spruiked all our recruits all per season to only come up with this.

Would feel better if Vlaustin was named and even Petterd.

No imagination whatsoever.

I was optimistic up until I read that side.

If Vlaustin can't get Jako out of the side on footy ability and the selectors have not got the gonads to select him then how is the side going to improve in big games.

FFS :help
Title: Re: Official Round 1 Team -v- Carlton
Post by: tiger101 on March 27, 2013, 09:40:20 PM
Nahas is in but Vlastuin isn't :o even White had a better pre-season from the games I saw on tv.

Yeah this confused me a bit too, only thing I could think of is that we think Nahas and King give us better foward line preasure to stop the Yarran etc. To me White should be ahead of Nahas based on the pre season.

Was it White last year that tagged Yarren right out of the game and also scored a goal.
Title: Re: Official Round 1 Team -v- Carlton
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on March 27, 2013, 09:47:25 PM
Nahas is in but Vlastuin isn't :o even White had a better pre-season from the games I saw on tv.

Yeah this confused me a bit too, only thing I could think of is that we think Nahas and King give us better foward line preasure to stop the Yarran etc. To me White should be ahead of Nahas based on the pre season.

Was it White last year that tagged Yarren right out of the game and also scored a goal.

2011. :thumbsup
Title: Re: Official Round 1 Team -v- Carlton
Post by: WilliamPowell on March 27, 2013, 09:50:20 PM
The Age saying Petterd missed selection due to "groin soreness"

Full article:

http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/defender-chaplin-to-make-debut-for-tigers-20130327-2gujg.html
Title: Re: Official Round 1 Team -v- Carlton
Post by: Stripes on March 27, 2013, 10:01:08 PM
OK. No new names to get excited about but this in itself is a positive for mine. As I have said elsewhere, I always thought that Vlaustin would struggle to push his way into our midfield based on its experience and strength atm. Has he shown enough consistency or form to pus our Ellis or Conca? Jackson makes mistakes but he is our best tagger and without him Murphy woul run riot.

Similarly McGuane provides a contest and with Vickery down on form we need someone with the experience, strength (not called Muscles for nothing!;)) and, dare I say it, form to make us less predictable up forward. McGuane can actually make a lead, stick and mark and kick a goal making the defenders accountable. Until Elton or A. Edwards steps up, we need him.

King is the barometer of the team. He will gives his all and get into the defenders heads early. He is a very under rated player for the role he does. Nahas does go missing but also sticks his head up regularly to break the lines and create scoring opportunities. Again, he can not be ignored.

Petterd would have played in Batch spot but pulled up sore.

This team is a solid team.

We will win the game with this team.  :thumbsup
Title: Re: Official Round 1 Team -v- Carlton
Post by: gerkin greg on March 27, 2013, 10:49:25 PM
McGuane is called muscles for nothing and Murphy will get 25 and a couple of sausos on jacko

I'm just thankful that side doesn't contain Jayden Post

Title: Re: Official Round 1 Team -v- Carlton
Post by: tony_montana on March 27, 2013, 11:43:55 PM
Just read on BF that Vlastuin not playing was a leadership group decision - they want him to earn his spot via coburg.. anyone know if there is any truth to this?
Title: Re: Official Round 1 Team -v- Carlton
Post by: Coach on March 27, 2013, 11:44:57 PM
Just read on BF that Vlastuin not playing was a leadership group decision - they want him to earn his spot via coburg.. anyone know if there is any truth to this?

That would have to be poppycock. I hate leaders ;D
Title: Re: Official Round 1 Team -v- Carlton
Post by: tony_montana on March 27, 2013, 11:47:55 PM
Just read on BF that Vlastuin not playing was a leadership group decision - they want him to earn his spot via coburg.. anyone know if there is any truth to this?

That would have to be poppycock. I hate leaders ;D

You would hope  :)
Title: Re: Official Round 1 Team -v- Carlton
Post by: Willy on March 28, 2013, 12:53:53 AM
I don’t mind Maguane up forward. You would never rely on him to hold down a key post, but as a third tall I think he has something to offer. He is rangy and can take a plucky grab. Importantly, his defender’s mindset means that he scraps and harasses hard for a man of his size. He'l dob a couple i reckon.
Title: Re: Official Round 1 Team -v- Carlton
Post by: DCrane on March 28, 2013, 01:17:21 AM
Griffiths on the bench- I can't see how this is going to work. Rance very rarely leaves the ground. So who are they rotating him with, Chaplin only? Or are they going 4 talls in the forward line. It doesn't seem balanced. Are we sure about an extra tall on a greasy MCG?

McGuane- this selection should be a boost for his confidence, something that he lacks in his game. I hope it helps him turn those 2 goal games into 4 or 5.
Title: Re: Official Round 1 Team -v- Carlton
Post by: tigs2011 on March 28, 2013, 01:32:30 AM
Just read on BF that Vlastuin not playing was a leadership group decision - they want him to earn his spot via coburg.. anyone know if there is any truth to this?

rubbish. Otherwise how does Jackson get a game. Oh wait you said it was up to the leadership group... :banghead :banghead
Title: Re: Official Round 1 Team -v- Carlton
Post by: TigerTimeII on March 28, 2013, 02:17:01 AM
I guess Picky is a bit stiff but very happy to see Batch get named. Reckon two of those EMG's had better pre-seasons than Jacko but then again they aren't in the LG ;D

Footy is finally back. Go you tigers

dimma is fos
picking players from now on who deserve it on form
bachelor has been poo all pre season, petterd is unlucky and should be in

jackson ffs should be out for vlaus

dimma is a wank
Title: Re: Official Round 1 Team -v- Carlton
Post by: one-eyed on March 28, 2013, 03:39:49 AM
Round 1, 2013

B: Morris, Rance, Chaplin
HB: Batchelor, Newman, Houli
C: Grigg, Cotchin, Conca
HF: Deledio, Edwards, Jackson
F: McGuane, Riewoldt, Nahas
R: Maric, Martin, Tuck
IC: Griffiths, King, Vickery, Ellis

Emg: White, Vlastuin, Knights


Round 1, 2012

B:   Morris, Rance, Grimes
HB: Houli, Post, Newman
C:    Ellis, Martin, Deledio
HF: Cotchin, Vickery, Nahas
F:     Miller, Riewoldt, A.Maric
Foll: I.Maric, Jackson, Foley
I/C: Tuck, S.Edwards, Grigg, Conca

Emg: Webberley, Batchelor, Helbig


Changes for round 1 since round 1 last year:

In: Chaplin, Batchelor, McGuane, King, Griffiths
Out: Grimes, Foley, Post, Miller, A.Maric
Title: Re: Official Round 1 Team -v- Carlton
Post by: georgies31 on March 28, 2013, 03:46:58 AM
This wet weather concerns me.We dont play great football in it and adapt well to.
Title: Re: Official Round 1 Team -v- Carlton
Post by: Francois Jackson on March 28, 2013, 07:14:26 AM
Vlast has to play

I think he will to be honest

You can't not reward his NAB cup yet reward Edwards pathetic efforts

I expect a late change
Title: Re: Official Round 1 Team -v- Carlton
Post by: Judge Roughneck on March 28, 2013, 07:50:51 AM
Just read on BF that Vlastuin not playing was a leadership group decision - they want him to earn his spot via coburg.. anyone know if there is any truth to this?

Yeah jacko in the leadership group.

More suss that the labour parry.
Title: Re: Official Round 1 Team -v- Carlton
Post by: Eat_em_Alive on March 28, 2013, 08:12:07 AM
Just read on BF that Vlastuin not playing was a leadership group decision - they want him to earn his spot via coburg.. anyone know if there is any truth to this?

Yeah jacko in the leadership group.

More suss that the labour parry.
:clapping
Title: Re: Official Round 1 Team -v- Carlton
Post by: WA Tiger on March 28, 2013, 09:48:01 AM
Round 1, 2013

B: Morris, Rance, Chaplin
HB: Batchelor, Newman, Houli
C: Grigg, Cotchin, Conca
HF: Deledio, Edwards, Jackson
F: McGuane, Riewoldt, Nahas
R: Maric, Martin, Tuck
IC: Griffiths, King, Vickery, Ellis

Emg: White, Vlastuin, Knights


Round 1, 2012

B:   Morris, Rance, Grimes
HB: Houli, Post, Newman
C:    Ellis, Martin, Deledio
HF: Cotchin, Vickery, Nahas
F:     Miller, Riewoldt, A.Maric
Foll: I.Maric, Jackson, Foley
I/C: Tuck, S.Edwards, Grigg, Conca

Emg: Webberley, Batchelor, Helbig


Changes for round 1 since round 1 last year:

In: Chaplin, Batchelor, McGuane, King, Griffiths
Out: Grimes, Foley, Post, Miller, A.Maric

Two of those three emergencies should be in....
Title: Re: Official Round 1 Team -v- Carlton
Post by: Stripes on March 28, 2013, 10:05:56 AM
This wet weather concerns me.We dont play great football in it and adapt well to.

Yes the wet weather suits their crumbers and stoppage type of play but the radar suggests it should be clear night. Might still be wet underfoot which will make the ball slippery initially. We need a few hours of dry to help get rid of the moisture on the ground  :pray

Of those missing from last year, I feel we will feel the absence of Foley and Grimes but the last three missing are certainly not a loss
Title: Re: Official Round 1 Team -v- Carlton
Post by: WilliamPowell on March 28, 2013, 10:13:22 AM
Vlast has to play

I think he will to be honest

You can't not reward his NAB cup yet reward Edwards pathetic efforts

I expect a late change

While agree with you daniel about Vlaustin not being selected

I think you are being harsh on Shane Edwards, he was good during the pre-season

The selected Edwards is Shane not Aaron  ;D
Title: Re: Official Round 1 Team -v- Carlton
Post by: gerkin greg on March 28, 2013, 10:25:30 AM
Nahas is the lucky one, i'd bring Knighta in

I think Batch would have missed if Netty didn't throw his groin out wearing high heeled shoes

Flossy would have played if they had any stones and dropped Jacko
Title: Re: Official Round 1 Team -v- Carlton
Post by: mat073 on March 28, 2013, 11:54:37 AM
To be honest I can't believe some of the hysteria.

The are three changes to the team that blitzed Hawthorn in 2012

In... Chaplin, Mcguane and bachelor
Out.... Foley (who's injured anyway) Dea ( whipping boy) A.Maric ( sacked whipping boy)

And that game was played in the wet too.
Title: Re: Official Round 1 Team -v- Carlton
Post by: WA Tiger on March 28, 2013, 12:15:31 PM
To be honest I can't believe some of the hysteria.

The are three changes to the team that blitzed Hawthorn in 2012

In... Chaplin, Mcguane and bachelor
Out.... Foley (who's injured anyway) Dea ( whipping boy) A.Maric ( sacked whipping boy)

And that game was played in the wet too.

Well mat, there's also very few changes from round one last year too mate and we all know that result!
Title: Re: Official Round 1 Team -v- Carlton
Post by: tiga on March 28, 2013, 12:19:36 PM
Such a 2012 type side.

FFS :help

But Tucker is it the 2012 side that convincingly beat the Hawks and Swans or the 2012 side that got done by Gold Coast?  ;D
Title: Re: Official Round 1 Team -v- Carlton
Post by: WA Tiger on March 28, 2013, 12:23:53 PM
Such a 2012 type side.

FFS :help

But Tucker is it the 2012 side that convincingly beat the Hawks and Swans or the 2012 side that got done by Gold Coast?  ;D

:)
Title: Re: Official Round 1 Team -v- Carlton
Post by: Francois Jackson on March 28, 2013, 12:53:06 PM
Vlast has to play

I think he will to be honest

You can't not reward his NAB cup yet reward Edwards pathetic efforts

I expect a late change

While agree with you daniel about Vlaustin not being selected

I think you are being harsh on Shane Edwards, he was good during the pre-season

The selected Edwards is Shane not Aaron  ;D

fine then my mistake, i just saw Edwards at CHF and thought it was A Edwards
Title: Re: Official Round 1 Team -v- Carlton
Post by: Yeahright on March 28, 2013, 12:55:41 PM
Round 1, 2013

B: Morris, Rance, Chaplin
HB: Batchelor, Newman, Houli
C: Grigg, Cotchin, Conca
HF: Deledio, Edwards, Jackson
F: McGuane, Riewoldt, Nahas
R: Maric, Martin, Tuck
IC: Griffiths, King, Vickery, Ellis

Emg: White, Vlastuin, Knights


Round 1, 2012

B:   Morris, Rance, Grimes
HB: Houli, Post, Newman
C:    Ellis, Martin, Deledio
HF: Cotchin, Vickery, Nahas
F:     Miller, Riewoldt, A.Maric
Foll: I.Maric, Jackson, Foley
I/C: Tuck, S.Edwards, Grigg, Conca

Emg: Webberley, Batchelor, Helbig


Changes for round 1 since round 1 last year:

In: Chaplin, Batchelor, McGuane, King, Griffiths
Out: Grimes, Foley, Post, Miller, A.Maric

Two of those three emergencies should be in....

Which two?
Title: Re: Official Round 1 Team -v- Carlton
Post by: dwaino on March 28, 2013, 12:59:08 PM
Nahas is the lucky one, i'd bring Knighta in

I think Batch would have missed if Netty didn't throw his groin out wearing high heeled shoes

Flossy would have played if they had any stones and dropped Jacko

These are the only ones I agree with gerkin. Except for maybe Nahas at this point as Knights is fresh from coming back from injury and hasn't had a lot of minutes yet. Would bet that Nahas is in to play a role to keep Yarran deep too. The other names being thrown around are hysterical. Everyone else is either the best in their position or already covering an injured bloke. The rest got little to no minutes in the pre-season and would be no where near ready to play. Floss could be a stiff non-selection but I can deal with not chucking a first year player in the deep end first game.
Title: Re: Official Round 1 Team -v- Carlton
Post by: WA Tiger on March 28, 2013, 01:00:41 PM
White & Vlastuin, they have even said it on AFL 360, they said really this side from last year round one has not changed, poo if Newman plays in the back line what are we doing and where are we going????
Title: Re: Official Round 1 Team -v- Carlton
Post by: Yeahright on March 28, 2013, 01:06:18 PM
White & Vlastuin, they have even said it on AFL 360, they said really this side from last year round one has not changed, poo if Newman plays in the back line what are we doing and where are we going????

Agree with White & Vlastuin. But I wouldn't take anything out of the way the teams actually listed.
Title: Re: Official Round 1 Team -v- Carlton
Post by: dwaino on March 28, 2013, 01:07:32 PM
The personnel may not have changed, but hopefully another preseason and an extra 15+ or so games into guys like Conca, Ellis, Batchelor etc will be a difference for the better. We can't just rely on getting new guys in, it's up to these sorts to keep stepping up.

Not trying to say it's a good side if anyone interprets it that way. Just trying to justify why the side is like it is.  :thumbsup
Title: Re: Official Round 1 Team -v- Carlton
Post by: Yeahright on March 28, 2013, 01:11:19 PM
The personnel may not have changed, but hopefully another preseason and an extra 15+ or so games into guys like Conca, Ellis, Batchelor etc will be a difference for the better. We can't just rely on getting new guys in, it's up to these sorts to keep stepping up.

Not trying to say it's a good side if anyone interprets it that way. Just trying to justify why the side is like it is.  :thumbsup

I agree with you  :thumbsup. I saw the complaining about the side in another thread before I saw the side and was expecting something terrible. But really only Petterd (injury) was missing from who I was expecting, although I thought Vlastuin deserved a game I never thought he'd get one and to a lesser degree White. But can you imagine the uproar if White got a game and not Nahas, people would be complaining about bringing in the same old spuds.
Title: Re: Official Round 1 Team -v- Carlton
Post by: WA Tiger on March 28, 2013, 01:13:15 PM
White & Vlastuin, they have even said it on AFL 360, they said really this side from last year round one has not changed, poo if Newman plays in the back line what are we doing and where are we going????

Agree with White & Vlastuin. But I wouldn't take anything out of the way the teams actually listed.

No I'm not taking much out of the listing, just saying that if Newman ends up where he played last year I am not sure what we are doing, particularly when he has been playing wing/forward all pre season.

With these players selected we can't afford passengers, we need 100% out of the players that usually on just get by..Jackson, Nahas, Ty, King and even Griff.....that's a lot of passengers for mine and Vlastuin and White would of removed two of them....

Anyway lets just hope!
Title: Re: Official Round 1 Team -v- Carlton
Post by: WilliamPowell on March 28, 2013, 01:17:58 PM
Vlast has to play

I think he will to be honest

You can't not reward his NAB cup yet reward Edwards pathetic efforts

I expect a late change

While agree with you daniel about Vlaustin not being selected

I think you are being harsh on Shane Edwards, he was good during the pre-season

The selected Edwards is Shane not Aaron  ;D

fine then my mistake, i just saw Edwards at CHF and thought it was A Edwards

If it was A Edwards a dozen manure trucks would have been at Punt Road Oval this morning  ;D
Title: Re: Official Round 1 Team -v- Carlton
Post by: gerkin greg on March 28, 2013, 01:26:29 PM
These are the only ones I agree with gerkin. Except for maybe Nahas at this point as Knights is fresh from coming back from injury and hasn't had a lot of minutes yet.

Reckon he's had enough minutes with the VFL praccies and touched the ball 10 x more times than Nahas.
Title: Re: Official Round 1 Team -v- Carlton
Post by: WilliamPowell on March 28, 2013, 01:28:34 PM
These are the only ones I agree with gerkin. Except for maybe Nahas at this point as Knights is fresh from coming back from injury and hasn't had a lot of minutes yet.

Reckon he's had enough minutes with the VFL praccies and touched the ball 10 x more times than Nahas.

I'd take a 2 to 3 qtr cameo from Knights over a Nahas 20 minute cameo for this game
Title: Re: Official Round 1 Team -v- Carlton
Post by: rogerd3 on March 28, 2013, 03:38:00 PM
on my visit to the hospital this morning
noticed the boys out kicking the ball early this morning
any late changes guys?
Title: Re: Official Round 1 Team -v- Carlton
Post by: wayne on March 28, 2013, 03:51:01 PM
on my visit to the hospital this morning
noticed the boys out kicking the ball early this morning
any late changes guys?

It's going to depend on the weather rog.

It it clearing up in Melbourne?
Title: Re: Official Round 1 Team -v- Carlton
Post by: rogerd3 on March 28, 2013, 04:03:05 PM
on my visit to the hospital this morning
noticed the boys out kicking the ball early this morning
any late changes guys?

It's going to depend on the weather rog.

It it clearing up in Melbourne?

sitting here in Richmond, strong winds so i think the rain
will blow through, could be a bit swirly at the G.
Title: Re: Official Round 1 Team -v- Carlton
Post by: wayne on March 28, 2013, 04:33:35 PM
I'm in the Latrobe Valley and it's peeing down!
Title: Re: Official Round 1 Team -v- Carlton
Post by: dwaino on March 28, 2013, 04:42:24 PM
These are the only ones I agree with gerkin. Except for maybe Nahas at this point as Knights is fresh from coming back from injury and hasn't had a lot of minutes yet.

Reckon he's had enough minutes with the VFL praccies and touched the ball 10 x more times than Nahas.

Can't argue with that, all I can guess us that Nahas and others were under instruction and only 'going through the motions' all pre-season to ensure they get their required game time and no injuries. With Knights emergency I reckon he's close enough that they're happy to have him in if required but would prefer to have him wait just one more week. Also trying to convince myself that Nahas is there to suck in Yarran. Could have played White in this role though. Reckon of Knights played instead they'd just put a token small back on him since he isn't as quick and Yarran would chop us up from half back.

Agree with the sentiment of you and WP though. I'll give him the benefit that I reckon he'll be a role player tonight, but needs to pull his finger out to stay in the team.
Title: Re: Official Round 1 Team -v- Carlton
Post by: Yeahright on March 28, 2013, 05:34:49 PM
White & Vlastuin, they have even said it on AFL 360, they said really this side from last year round one has not changed, poo if Newman plays in the back line what are we doing and where are we going????

Agree with White & Vlastuin. But I wouldn't take anything out of the way the teams actually listed.

No I'm not taking much out of the listing, just saying that if Newman ends up where he played last year I am not sure what we are doing, particularly when he has been playing wing/forward all pre season.

Agreed especially he looked pretty sharp further up field. But was it Petterd setting him free and now with his injury his forced to go back again? Or does Batch take Petterds spot.
Title: Re: Official Round 1 Team -v- Carlton
Post by: tony_montana on March 28, 2013, 11:56:10 PM
In the end we got the win so all's well that ends well.

Was great to see vickery have such a good game. Was not expecting that after his preseason, should gain a lot of confidence from that. If he can build on that he'll be right.

Also, that was probably the best tall fwd setup we've had for a while. Jack was moving all over the place and creating plenty of holes and confusion for Vicks and mcGuane played his role well too.