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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: one-eyed on April 27, 2013, 12:30:56 AM
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Morris and King will be available.
Fire away your changes for next week ...
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Possibly the Big O to come in. Let's see how Coburg goes tomorrow.
We need bigger bodies next week.
Probably Nahas out.
If King is fit also he plays and Chaplin to come in and take either the Pod or Tomahawk.
Then there is the Tuck conundrum.
Possibly Foley if he pulls up well next week.
There are options.
I still think we can give the Cats a shake next week and with some luck pinch the match.
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Chaplin a likely in too OE ...and Tuck too
Petterd, White, Nahas and Helbig in the gun for mine. (Ellis and Floss safe!)
Petterd. might be going early, but for mine I reckon Ive seen enough. Good depth but shouldnt be considered first 22. Has a horrible kicking action which is not conducive to high pressure finals type football. Prefer batchelor to play that 3rd man up and intercept player.
White. great goal at the death but we know what we get with White, a trier just a depth player
Nahas. No mojo little impact when he came on
Helbig, struggled with the pace of the game and didnt look comfortable out there.
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What was wrong with Chaplin?
IMO if Chaplin, Morro and Tuck played tonight we win
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If Griffiths plays a good game for the burgers I would drop Rance and bring him in.For some reason Griffiths should be in our best 22 either in the backline or up forward.Were wasting his talent for me because Dimma cant find a position for him.
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If Griffiths plays a good game for the burgers I would drop Rance and bring him in.For some reason Griffiths should be in our best 22 either in the backline or up forward.Were wasting his talent for me because Dimma cant find a position for him.
Griff down back >>> Rance
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Not a fan of lots of the changes but I think we'll make the following:
Nahas -> King
White -> Morris
Batchelor -> Chaplin
Helbig -> Tuck
Rance's second half tonight has probably saved him.
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I reckon Batchelor plays next week.
He can play on a bloke like Smedts or Taylor Hunt.
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All you guys are raving about Chappy,but seriously we recruited him to play on the best forwards and monster forwards he hasn't did this.Plays loose man in defence ???.Is he up to it or not for FFS.I'm not sure.And I'm sick of the crap he had a limited preseason that's over now.From what I have seen he has iffy kicking and decision making.
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If Chaplin has a calf strain he'd be doubtful for next week
ONly changes I'd make at the minute is Nahas out for Tuck and Morris for Batchelor. Need a bigger body in the middle
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How is Pettard getting a game in all honestly.Wake up Dimma he is not up to it.
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How many times did Petterd give it to the opposition with that poo kicking style. Goodbye Ricky
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Jake King, who was replaced in the selected side by Robin Nahas, was suffering from a back injury and would likely be available next week.
Tigers fans would have been excused for being concerned when Trent Cotchin limped from the field late in the second quarter, but Hardwick said his skipper had simply hyper-extended his right knee.
"I think it's OK," he said.
"He came back on and played on, so he'll be fine."
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2013-04-26/damien-hardwick-post-match-press-conference
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Not a fan of lots of the changes but I think we'll make the following:
Nahas -> King
White -> Morris
Batchelor -> Chaplin
Helbig -> Tuck
Rance's second half tonight has probably saved him.
Didn't mind Whiteys game - he flashed in and out a little but what small forward doesn't.
His pace will worry the Cats defence, keep him.
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If A Edwards kicks another bag for Coburg today I think the club would have to consider him.
:cheers
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Chaplin for Petterd
King for Nahas
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I really have to see Petterd leave the side, doesnt cope well with pressure at all and thats the last thing we need. Chaplin for Petterd.
King for Nahas, give helbig another chance.
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Possibly the Big O to come in. Let's see how Coburg goes
Who for tucker?
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Possibly the Big O to come in. Let's see how Coburg goes
Who for tucker?
Maric. Looks tired.
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Possibly the Big O to come in. Let's see how Coburg goes
Who for tucker?
They use Vardy and Blicavs. Maric or Orren can rest in front of Pods and Tomahawk and give the backline a chop out when they are not rucking.
I am sure as we can think of a few candidates to come out. Doesn't matter tall or small to come out. Next week is must win no matter what.
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Possibly the Big O to come in. Let's see how Coburg goes
Who for tucker?
Maric. Looks tired.
he may look tired but he cant be this early in the season.
i reckon he has groin problem. he is not attacking the ball at ground level like he did last year, moves like a donkey and jumps as high off the ground as one.
He does not seem willing to take long or mid range kicks at goal.
At the moment he is a shadow of the player we saw last year.
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Got smashed in the middle last night. :(
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Looking forward to watching a champion team with balls and mental fortitude next week, then Ill cross the road and watch Richmond take on Geelong.
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Possibly the Big O to come in. Let's see how Coburg goes
Who for tucker?
Maric. Looks tired.
he may look tired but he cant be this early in the season.
i reckon he has groin problem. he is not attacking the ball at ground level like he did last year, moves like a donkey and jumps as high off the ground as one.
He does not seem willing to take long or mid range kicks at goal.
At the moment he is a shadow of the player we saw last year.
Yep something is not right with him, but unfortunately if he goes down we are well and truly far.......d
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How many times did Petterd give it to the opposition with that poo kicking style. Goodbye Ricky
Exactly. Has no penetration in his kicks which often fall to the opposition side of the contest. also loves 9-ironing the ball form the tee >:(
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If Helbig gets dropped we may as well delist him. Kid needs some continuity and confidence shown in him and he will be a player.
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Possibly the Big O to come in. Let's see how Coburg goes tomorrow.
We need bigger bodies next week.
Probably Nahas out.
If King is fit also he plays and Chaplin to come in and take either the Pod or Tomahawk.
Then there is the Tuck conundrum.
Possibly Foley if he pulls up well next week.
There are options.
I still think we can give the Cats a shake next week and with some luck pinch the match.
Agree with your post but this in particular :thumbsup
Hard fought loss VS cruise control cats this week, very big ask but time to break the hoodoo
The question is are we hungry enough??
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Morris and King will be available.
Fire away your changes for next week ...
What's up with chaplin ::)
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Out:
Jackson
Pettard
McGaune
Nahas
The like of Helbig, Vlastuin, Ellis, Bachelor. Should play together, not be dropped.
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If Chaplin has a calf strain he'd be doubtful for next week
ONly changes I'd make at the minute is Nahas out for Tuck and Morris for Batchelor. Need a bigger body in the middle
I thought chappy had a week off after being ko d ....knew nothing of a calf strain ::)
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there are some sides that just match up
quite well, I reckon the catters is one.
the sun came up and we live to fight another day.
all the haters need to take their hating elsewhere.. :lol
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Out:
Jackson
Pettard
McGaune
Nahas
The like of Helbig, Vlastuin, Ellis, Bachelor. Should play together, not be dropped.
Why McGaune?
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people persist in Jacko to be dropped, wasting their time typing
his name in their lists of outs.
wont happen.
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people persist in Jacko to be dropped, wasting their time typing
his name in their lists of outs.
wont happen.
where was he in the last 2 minutes last night. wasnt he on Ballantyne? where the stuff was Jackson?
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people persist in Jacko to be dropped, wasting their time typing
his name in their lists of outs.
wont happen.
where was he in the last 2 minutes last night. wasnt he on Ballantyne? where the stuff was Jackson?
Got the ball out goal side in that last goal sequence rather than going boundary line. Killed all our blokes further up the chain who had to readjust.
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In Morris Chaplin King Stephenson Tuck
Out White Nahas Helbig Petterd Batchelor
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A. Edwards would have to get a game this week after another 5 at Coburg. Really missed someone across half forward last night.
Outs- Helbig, White, Nahas, Batchelor, Ellis (Ellis was very good last night, but still prefer Tuck in.. Nothing wrong with making these kids really work for a game. And against Geelong we need big bodies)
Ins- Edwards, Chaplin, King, Morris, Tuck
Axel's not far away and also think Dea won't be far away from getting a game too.
Grigg and Houli will need to be good in the next couple of weeks if they are to retain there spots.
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people persist in Jacko to be dropped, wasting their time typing
his name in their lists of outs.
wont happen.
where was he in the last 2 minutes last night. wasnt he on Ballantyne? where the stuff was Jackson?
He was too busy shutting down Mundy (and Fyfe when he went on to him at times). The guy is a gumby and I was fuming when he tried to centre a ball from half forward flank to centre half forward 10 secs before 1/2 time, turned it over of course ::) and freo swept it fwd and kicked a point, but he did a good defensive job last night on class movers
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that kick was the right option, for someone that can kick to where they want it to go.
he had a man loose and if he hits his target its a shot on goal.
as it is he misses by long way and they have two men caught out of position who can then make us pay for the crapola kick
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Outs: Petterd Nahas White McGuane
In: Tuck Morris Chaplin Stephenson
B: Morris Rance Grimes
HB: Houli Chaplin Batchelor
C: Grigg Martin Deledio
HF: Knights Reiwoldt Newman
F: Edwards Vickery Stephenson
R: Maric Cotchin Tuck
Int: Jackson Ellis Helbig Vlas
Emg: McGuane King Dea
Batch maybe a late change for Kingy
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If Chaplin has a calf strain he'd be doubtful for next week
ONly changes I'd make at the minute is Nahas out for Tuck and Morris for Batchelor. Need a bigger body in the middle
I thought chappy had a week off after being ko d ....knew nothing of a calf strain ::)
HUN listed him out with a calf
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If Chaplin has a calf strain he'd be doubtful for next week
ONly changes I'd make at the minute is Nahas out for Tuck and Morris for Batchelor. Need a bigger body in the middle
I thought chappy had a week off after being ko d ....knew nothing of a calf strain ::)
HUN listed him out with a calf
Heard she was old enough to be called a cow
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A. Edwards would have to get a game this week after another 5 at Coburg. Really missed someone across half forward last night.
Outs- Helbig, White, Nahas, Batchelor, Ellis (Ellis was very good last night, but still prefer Tuck in.. Nothing wrong with making these kids really work for a game. And against Geelong we need big bodies)
Ins- Edwards, Chaplin, King, Morris, Tuck
Axel's not far away and also think Dea won't be far away from getting a game too.
Grigg and Houli will need to be good in the next couple of weeks if they are to retain there spots.
Drop Ellis? you have got to be joking, what sort of MSG does that send?
Batchelor should remain in, is a better mid size than petterd.
Out - helbig, Nahas, petterd, white
In - Morris, King, Chaplin, Tuck
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that kick was the right option, for someone that can kick to where they want it to go.
he had a man loose and if he hits his target its a shot on goal.
as it is he misses by long way and they have two men caught out of position who can then make us pay for the crapola kick
Unfortunately for a smart bloke jacko still doesn't grasp the simple saying - play within your limitations
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As much as it pains me to say Edwards must play.
We need a new dimension to that forward line or the cats will own us big time.
Out. Grigg, Maric, Nahas, Petterd
In. Big O, Edwards, Tuck, Chaplin
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I went to box hill today big o didn't do enough to impress in fact derikx did more
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If Chaplin has a calf strain he'd be doubtful for next week
ONly changes I'd make at the minute is Nahas out for Tuck and Morris for Batchelor. Need a bigger body in the middle
I thought chappy had a week off after being ko d ....knew nothing of a calf strain ::)
HUN listed him out with a calf
Heard she was old enough to be called a cow
:lol
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people persist in Jacko to be dropped, wasting their time typing
his name in their lists of outs.
wont happen.
where was he in the last 2 minutes last night. wasnt he on Ballantyne? where the stuff was Jackson?
He was too busy shutting down Mundy (and Fyfe when he went on to him at times). The guy is a gumby and I was fuming when he tried to centre a ball from half forward flank to centre half forward 10 secs before 1/2 time, turned it over of course ::) and freo swept it fwd and kicked a point, but he did a good defensive job last night on class movers
That turnover was 3/4 time Tony when Walters missed after the siren. :thumbsup
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that kick was the right option, for someone that can kick to where they want it to go.
he had a man loose and if he hits his target its a shot on goal.
as it is he misses by long way and they have two men caught out of position who can then make us pay for the crapola kick
Unfortunately for a smart bloke jacko still doesn't grasp the simple saying - play within your limitations
yeah, but if did that he would just turn up to train with coburg
it wasnt a difficult kick
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A. Edwards would have to get a game this week after another 5 at Coburg. Really missed someone across half forward last night.
Outs- Helbig, White, Nahas, Batchelor, Ellis (Ellis was very good last night, but still prefer Tuck in.. Nothing wrong with making these kids really work for a game. And against Geelong we need big bodies)
Ins- Edwards, Chaplin, King, Morris, Tuck
Axel's not far away and also think Dea won't be far away from getting a game too.
Grigg and Houli will need to be good in the next couple of weeks if they are to retain there spots.
Drop Ellis? you have got to be joking, what sort of MSG does that send?
Batchelor should remain in, is a better mid size than petterd.
Out - helbig, Nahas, petterd, white
In - Morris, King, Chaplin, Tuck
Before you hand Ellis a Brownlow medal for one decent game, try not to forget the previous four weeks when he was putrid. . The message that it's sends is you are not in our best 22 IMO.
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A. Edwards would have to get a game this week after another 5 at Coburg. Really missed someone across half forward last night.
Outs- Helbig, White, Nahas, Batchelor, Ellis (Ellis was very good last night, but still prefer Tuck in.. Nothing wrong with making these kids really work for a game. And against Geelong we need big bodies)
Ins- Edwards, Chaplin, King, Morris, Tuck
Axel's not far away and also think Dea won't be far away from getting a game too.
Grigg and Houli will need to be good in the next couple of weeks if they are to retain there spots.
Drop Ellis? you have got to be joking, what sort of MSG does that send?
Batchelor should remain in, is a better mid size than petterd.
Out - helbig, Nahas, petterd, white
In - Morris, King, Chaplin, Tuck
Before you hand Ellis a Brownlow medal for one decent game, try not to forget the previous four weeks when he was putrid. . The message that it's sends is you are not in our best 22 IMO.
Good one, Whose talking brownlows? He was one of our best, you don't drop a player the week after being in your best handful of players, you just don't. Could've been dropped in previous weeks not now.
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Fair enough but how many games does he get for that good game last night? If he stinks again against Geelong, can he be dropped then?
Most think it's a bit tough bagging a second year player but if he drops simple chest marks or IMO really looks scared out there, I don't care how many games he has played. Simple skills errors and soft efforts shouldnt be tolerated by our club ever.
Like I have said before about him, I really want him to come good and I don't take pleasure in bagging him, just really hate seeing what I have seen to date. Last night was a much different Brandon Ellis. :thumbsup
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Looking forward to watching a champion team with balls and mental fortitude next week, then Ill cross the road and watch Richmond take on Geelong.
:lol
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people persist in Jacko to be dropped, wasting their time typing
his name in their lists of outs.
wont happen.
where was he in the last 2 minutes last night. wasnt he on Ballantyne? where the stuff was Jackson?
He was too busy shutting down Mundy (and Fyfe when he went on to him at times). The guy is a gumby and I was fuming when he tried to centre a ball from half forward flank to centre half forward 10 secs before 1/2 time, turned it over of course ::) and freo swept it fwd and kicked a point, but he did a good defensive job last night on class movers
That turnover was 3/4 time Tony when Walters missed after the siren. :thumbsup
I stand corrected tb :thumbsup
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Fair enough but how many games does he get for that good game last night? If he stinks again against Geelong, can he be dropped then?
Most think it's a bit tough bagging a second year player but if he drops simple chest marks or IMO really looks scared out there, I don't care how many games he has played. Simple skills errors and soft efforts shouldnt be tolerated by our club ever.
Like I have said before about him, I really want him to come good and I don't take pleasure in bagging him, just really hate seeing what I have seen to date. Last night was a much different Brandon Ellis. :thumbsup
All good bt, no doubt he'd want to back it up next week, with Foley, Conca and Tuck not far off, all our runners would want to be switched on week in week out.
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How long is Conca out for?
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4+ weeks apparently. :'(
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A. Edwards would have to get a game this week after another 5 at Coburg. Really missed someone across half forward last night.
Outs- Helbig, White, Nahas, Batchelor, Ellis (Ellis was very good last night, but still prefer Tuck in.. Nothing wrong with making these kids really work for a game. And against Geelong we need big bodies)
Ins- Edwards, Chaplin, King, Morris, Tuck
Axel's not far away and also think Dea won't be far away from getting a game too.
Grigg and Houli will need to be good in the next couple of weeks if they are to retain there spots.
Drop Ellis? you have got to be joking, what sort of MSG does that send?
Batchelor should remain in, is a better mid size than petterd.
Out - helbig, Nahas, petterd, white
In - Morris, King, Chaplin, Tuck
Before you hand Ellis a Brownlow medal for one decent game, try not to forget the previous four weeks when he was putrid. . The message that it's sends is you are not in our best 22 IMO.
putrid, he was sub for three of them for a combined total of 25 minutes :lol...perhaps watch the game rather than reruns of the voice in future :shh
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id play anyone who can help us with delivery and decision making .
less panic merchants and poor kicks. more footy smarts and good skills. the question is do we have those type of replacements. i dont really think so.
we need to address the structure down back they definately need another tall. and they need a shut down sml/med morris i suppose.
we need to address the way the forward line operates. no smalls the talls struggling and the lack of movement
people want helbig dropped after just one game.
i can understand it but i dont agree. yes he struggled and even looked out of his depth at times but lets give him a decent go at it give him another week or two lets see if he can adapt and get involved more.
do we hang draw and quarter every player who has a bad game or is it just the young ones we do it to.
imo against the big bodies of geelong we need big bodies. tuck, to return chaplin down back. king as a sml forward and the presure he at least applies.
morris as a shut down med defender all four are a must imo.
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Actually liked White's game, stood up when someone needed to and nearly won it back for us off of his own boot.
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4+ weeks apparently. :'(
Thank-you. That is very bad news
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A. Edwards would have to get a game this week after another 5 at Coburg. Really missed someone across half forward last night.
Outs- Helbig, White, Nahas, Batchelor, Ellis (Ellis was very good last night, but still prefer Tuck in.. Nothing wrong with making these kids really work for a game. And against Geelong we need big bodies)
Ins- Edwards, Chaplin, King, Morris, Tuck
Axel's not far away and also think Dea won't be far away from getting a game too.
Grigg and Houli will need to be good in the next couple of weeks if they are to retain there spots.
Drop Ellis? you have got to be joking, what sort of MSG does that send?
Batchelor should remain in, is a better mid size than petterd.
Out - helbig, Nahas, petterd, white
In - Morris, King, Chaplin, Tuck
Before you hand Ellis a Brownlow medal for one decent game, try not to forget the previous four weeks when he was putrid. . The message that it's sends is you are not in our best 22 IMO.
putrid, he was sub for three of them for a combined total of 25 minutes :lol...perhaps watch the game rather than reruns of the voice in future :shh
Yes putrid!
And he played a quarter and a half against Collingwood, now I know the quarters in little league where you are probably starring every week are only 10 minutes young fella, but in the real world a quarter goes for about 30 minutes.. So your tally of 25 minutes combined makes about as much sense as most of your posts. :shh
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id play anyone who can help us with delivery and decision making .
less panic merchants and poor kicks. more footy smarts and good skills. the question is do we have those type of replacements. i dont really think so.
we need to address the structure down back they definately need another tall. and they need a shut down sml/med morris i suppose.
we need to address the way the forward line operates. no smalls the talls struggling and the lack of movement
people want helbig dropped after just one game.
i can understand it but i dont agree. yes he struggled and even looked out of his depth at times but lets give him a decent go at it give him another week or two lets see if he can adapt and get involved more.
do we hang draw and quarter every player who has a bad game or is it just the young ones we do it to.
imo against the big bodies of geelong we need big bodies. tuck, to return chaplin down back. king as a sml forward and the presure he at least applies.
morris as a shut down med defender all four are a must imo.
Who do you drop to make way for those people. I think thats the only reason people say Helbig
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people persist in Jacko to be dropped, wasting their time typing
his name in their lists of outs.
wont happen.
where was he in the last 2 minutes last night. wasnt he on Ballantyne? where the stuff was Jackson?
Houli was. Ballentyne got a little bit of space which is all he needed and the you know the rest. How the stuff does Jackson suddenly be the man playing on the guy who won them the game :lol
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King, Morris and Tuck in. Out Petterd, Nahas. Still yet to make mind on 3rd player to make way.
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King, Morris and Tuck in. Out Petterd, Nahas. Still yet to make mind on 3rd player to make way.
Don't worry about it, lets try and get away with playing 23 ;D
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Out: Rance, Nahas, Petterd
In: Chaplin, King, Morris
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Right on queue, milestone game for Johnson and Enright.
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Unreal, just unreal
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Right on queue, milestone game for Johnson and Enright.
you are kidding right?
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Negatory. Lube up and bend over.
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did we stuff karma's wife or something?
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did we stuff karma's wife or something?
if we did she got the stuffing of her life
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In King, Morris, A Edwards, Chaplin
Out, Nahas, Jackson, White, Batchelor
Petterd goes forward for me.
Jackson & White have got to start making way for other players. We will never move forward with these two in the side.
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Jackson & White have got to start making way for other players. We will never move forward with these two in the side.
Very harsh on White, who almost won us the game not once but twice
Certainly offering alot more up forward defensively than Nahas
Thought Matty played his role very well on Friday
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did we stuff karma's wife or something?
if we did she got the stuffing of her life
Unlikely Hardwick had anything to do with then..............
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Certainly offering alot more up forward defensively than Nahas
Thought Matty played his role very well on Friday
I agree WP. He has far more size than Nahas too which means his tackles stick more often and he harder to push off the ball. Nahas body language as sub this season has been deplorable too. Was White playing Kings role or Nahas role though?
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Certainly offering alot more up forward defensively than Nahas
Thought Matty played his role very well on Friday
I agree WP. He has far more size than Nahas too which means his tackles stick more often and he harder to push off the ball. Nahas body language as sub this season has been deplorable too. Was White playing Kings role or Nahas role though?
If he was playing Kings I'd just move him into Nahas' once King's back
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Certainly offering alot more up forward defensively than Nahas
Thought Matty played his role very well on Friday
I agree WP. He has far more size than Nahas too which means his tackles stick more often and he harder to push off the ball. Nahas body language as sub this season has been deplorable too. Was White playing Kings role or Nahas role though?
If he was playing Kings I'd just move him into Nahas' once King's back
Agree
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I have mentioned this before but when we are relying on Matty White, Robby Nahas and Jakey King as our crumbing forwards we are in big trouble.
We must find a small forward capable of kicking a bag, and fleet of foot at ground level.
Look at Hawks, young Hill, PA young Neade. They generate excitement and really trouble opposition defence.
We simply dont have this on our list.
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I have mentioned this before but when we are relying on Matty White, Robby Nahas and Jakey King as our crumbing forwards we are in big trouble.
We must find a small forward capable of kicking a bag, and fleet of foot at ground level.
Look at Hawks, young Hill, PA young Neade. They generate excitement and really trouble opposition defence.
We simply dont have this on our list.
You are correct we don't so until we do we go with what we have
And that means Kingy and one of either White or Nahas and for now based on Friday it is White by a long long way
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did we stuff karma's wife or something?
if we did she got the stuffing of her life
Unlikely Hardwick had anything to do with then..............
May have been in form that week. :lol
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From the HUNS's FOOTY BAROMETER
RICHMOND
INJURIES
Shane Tuck (rest) available
Sam Lonergan (hamstring) test
Jake King (soreness) test
Reece Conca (foot) test
Troy Chaplin (calf) TBC
ON THE BLOCK: Brad Helbig struggled in his first hitout for the season in Perth and was subbed off with just six disposals to his name, while his replacement Robin Nahas (three disposals) had little impact after coming on. Matt White kicked the go-ahead goal but could make way with several senior players ready to return, while Ricky Petterd might be nervous after going at just 50 per cent efficiency by foot (including four kick clangers). Nick Vlastuin showed plenty on debut and should get another chance, but captain Trent Cotchin hobbled off in the first half with an ankle injury. He starred in the last quarter but must pull up OK to face the Cats.
ON THE CUSP: Plenty. Steve Morris is available after serving his one-match suspension and Jake King (corked thigh) and Troy Chaplin (calf) are available, along with Shane Tuck who was rested and didn't play at any level on the weekend. The standout in Coburg's 25-point loss to Box Hill was Nathan Foley, who came on at quarter-time and looked a class above, picking up 21 disposals in his second game back after a long layoff following Achilles surgery. Could Damien Hardwick be tempted to start him as the sub against the Cats? Former Roo Aaron Edwards kicked five goals - making it 12 in two weeks - while Matt Dea (26 touches) is also pushing for a senior call-up.
AL PATON'S FORECAST: The Tigers were unlucky in Perth but now face the prospect of falling back into the pack with a 3-3 record unless they can stop the Cats' unbeaten run. They will have to create some history to do it - Richmond has lost its past eight matches against Geelong by an average of 65 points. Some big decisions looming at match committee.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/afl/more-news/the-barometer-whos-hurt-and-whos-in-line-for-selection-at-your-club-for-afl-round-2/story-e6frf9jf-1226610940898
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I have mentioned this before but when we are relying on Matty White, Robby Nahas and Jakey King as our crumbing forwards we are in big trouble.
We must find a small forward capable of kicking a bag, and fleet of foot at ground level.
Look at Hawks, young Hill, PA young Neade. They generate excitement and really trouble opposition defence.
We simply dont have this on our list.
Lol, yea lets go and find a couple jockeys that fall through the crack and get them to punt rd...Neade :lol
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Neade is a ripper
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Some milestone games being celebrated by the cats this week
Corey enright 250 games
Stevie j 200 games
:o
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Neade is a ripper
Jockey size forwards don't last long at afl level...they Come and go
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I have mentioned this before but when we are relying on Matty White, Robby Nahas and Jakey King as our crumbing forwards we are in big trouble.
We must find a small forward capable of kicking a bag, and fleet of foot at ground level.
Look at Hawks, young Hill, PA young Neade. They generate excitement and really trouble opposition defence.
We simply dont have this on our list.
the biggie that you miss is the lack of skill and smarts that the three lack. people wonder why we keep on losing close games or suddenly drop away dramatically in form. look no further it is the simple fact we play far too many players who lack polish or have gaping basic deficiencies.
what a forward set up 3 talls of which one in mcguane lacks skill and vision along with three runts who get little ball and cant kick or buy themselves time and make poor decisions.
people blame the mids for poor delivery jeezus h Geez a lot of it is a total lack of options. at times on sat we may as well have played statues with the lack of movement and cohesion from our forwards. but its not just sat night its most games.
lets play three talls forward its standard practice now days. we can debate and argue to our hearts content on who they should be and where and how they should operate. but we need to change the rest of it.
we desperately need a sml who applies pressure on the opposition backs that player is king. we want a sml/med who reads it well and can kick a goal shane edwards needs to spend more time forward and he needs to perform the sml forward role.
play a medium or rotate medium sized mids thru there. would like to see what petterd can offer forward and knights can spend more time there. and would definately be rotating deledio and martin thru there.
there is absolutely no need to play three substandard smls in the one forward line. it literally makes the set up two dimensional. make no mistake white king and nahas are battlers.
keep the hacks at coburg.
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Kingy is hopefully he'll play this week.
Chaplin will be assessed through the week, as he bids to overcome a minor calf injury.
Morris of course is back from suspension.
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2013-04-29/king-set-for-return
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(Out) In
(Helbig) Morris
(Nahas) King
(Batchelor) Chaplin
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, but captain Trent Cotchin hobbled off in the first half with an ankle injury. He starred in the last quarter but must pull up OK to face the Cats.
Stopped reading after that. If you can't tell he did a knee you don't deserve your opinion to be read.
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Outs: Petterd Nahas White McGuane
In: Tuck Morris Chaplin Stephenson
B: Morris Rance Grimes
HB: Houli Chaplin Batchelor
C: Grigg Martin Deledio
HF: Knights Reiwoldt Newman
F: Edwards Vickery Stephenson
R: Maric Cotchin Tuck
Int: Jackson Ellis Helbig Vlas
Emg: McGuane King Dea
Batch maybe a late change for Kingy
Yessss big man, 2 rucks + Vickery :clapping
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Outs: Petterd Nahas White McGuane
In: Tuck Morris Chaplin Stephenson
B: Morris Rance Grimes
HB: Houli Chaplin Batchelor
C: Grigg Martin Deledio
HF: Knights Reiwoldt Newman
F: Edwards Vickery Stephenson
R: Maric Cotchin Tuck
Int: Jackson Ellis Helbig Vlas
Emg: McGuane King Dea
Batch maybe a late change for Kingy
Yessss big man, 2 rucks + Vickery :clapping
Yesssss gerkin you big man. :clapping :clapping :clapping
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my fingers are tingling!!!!1!
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my fingers are tingling!!!!1!
I can understand why. ;) :clapping :clapping
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:lol
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In the mix: round six
afl.com.au
3:30pm AEST Tuesday, April 30, 2013
RICHMOND
Steven Morris has served his one-match suspension and is available while Troy Chaplin faces a test to prove he is over a calf injury. Shane Tuck was rested last week and could be called up while Aaron Edwards has done his chances of a Richmond debut no harm with five goals in the VFL at the weekend after booting seven in round three and four in round one. Matt Dea and Matt Arnot were also good in Coburg's loss to Box Hill while Nathan Foley had 28 touches in his second game back from an Achilles injury. - Jennifer Phelan
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2013-04-30/in-the-mix-round-six
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IF Aaron played, who for?
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i actully think edwards a godd fit for geelong.
they always go 3 talls plus mackie. usually enright and it used to be josh hunt they rely on system height and size to defend and it has never really changed over their entire dominant period.
we either play a sub standard small and let them have the upper hand or give them an awkward match up in a 184cm medium sized player who is big bodied very good on the lead and fantastic for his height in the air.
ywhile geelong as a team has genuine pace its not so true of their backline imo. fight them at their own game in our forward line.
lonergan taylor rivers or likely brown to replace rivers.none are quick. thats three talls. we p[lay three talls mcguane vickery riewoldt. nothing changes.
then theres enright a big bodied medium give him a task give him a bloke like a edwards to guard. throw king down there for pace and pressure and rotate the tall quick mids in deledio and martin of mackie. make the bastards accountable. its also flexable it gives all sorts of options and allows different match ups if we like.
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Kingy would have to be on his game if he was meant to stop the run of Enright burning off Edwards everytime and his own man
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I'm not as concerned about who mans our forward line as much as how it's delivered there. If we just keep bombing it in then Taylor and Mackie and co are going to eat it up and we're going to get smashed the other way. It's Geelong's bread and butter. Really need to split their defenders and make sure it's one on one the majority of the time.
If we get that bit right then the game is won in the middle. We get it on the inside and rapidly hand it around to spread the opposition and create space. They've been great at pressuring the opposition to fumble the second or third disposal after winning a stoppage. If we're going to keep overusing the ball by hand as we have been then they are going to bury us.
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This over handballing seems to have been instilled into our players over a period of time as part of the Hardwick game style and it would appear that its now become almost instinctive. Unfortunately you require players with a decent football brain in order to use some common sense in its application however I think a few players are deficient in this area.
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This over handballing seems to have been instilled into our players over a period of time as part of the Hardwick game style and it would appear that its now become almost instinctive. Unfortunately you require players with a decent football brain in order to use some common sense in its application however I think a few players are deficient in this area.
It certainly frustrates me Lozza when you see the team almost 'flick a switch' and start over-using handball. I haven't seen it pay off once, yet we repeatedly do it and when we do it ALWAYS results in game changing momentum swings. :banghead
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This over handballing seems to have been instilled into our players over a period of time as part of the Hardwick game style and it would appear that its now become almost instinctive. Unfortunately you require players with a decent football brain in order to use some common sense in its application however I think a few players are deficient in this area.
It certainly frustrates me Lozza when you see the team almost 'flick a switch' and start over-using handball. I haven't seen it pay off once, yet we repeatedly do it and when we do it ALWAYS results in game changing momentum swings. :banghead
It's not part of the gameplan. Our gameplan revolves around retaining possession and kicking to uncontested situations. The over use of the handball is a result of opponents closing space and shutting down the options and breaking up our structures. The Chimp has spoken about this before. It's not how we want to play.
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This over handballing seems to have been instilled into our players over a period of time as part of the Hardwick game style and it would appear that its now become almost instinctive. Unfortunately you require players with a decent football brain in order to use some common sense in its application however I think a few players are deficient in this area.
It certainly frustrates me Lozza when you see the team almost 'flick a switch' and start over-using handball. I haven't seen it pay off once, yet we repeatedly do it and when we do it ALWAYS results in game changing momentum swings. :banghead
It's not part of the gameplan. Our gameplan revolves around retaining possession and kicking to uncontested situations. The over use of the handball is a result of opponents closing space and shutting down the options and breaking up our structures. The Chimp has spoken about this before. It's not how we want to play.
Right on gerkin, but we're really susceptible to perceived pressure. Hate to pull out the "if you go to the games" line, but something I often notice at the game but not on the telecast is that often we will have someone breaking into space down the line. The crowd sees it and the crowd starts yelling. But our blokes more often than not think they're under more pressure than they are and pass it around an extra handball or two. By then the option a kick away is gone and we have to go backwards or switch, just putting ourselves under more pressure. Reckon this would come down to lack of experience and immaturity than anything at the moment though.