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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: yellowandback on May 13, 2013, 05:43:05 AM
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From this mornings Hun.....
RICHMOND has suffered a double injury blow with Chris Knights and Shane Tuck ruled out long term and Trent Cotchin no certainty to return next week.
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Knights will miss the remainder of the season after undergoing knee surgery today to fix a patella tendon injury, while Tuck has been ruled out for 6-8 weeks with a fractured scapula.
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Knights bizarrely injured his right knee in yesterday's win against Port Adelaide. After booting a goal the former Crow slipped and landed awkwardly before being stretchered from the field.
“It’s really disappointing for Chris," Tigers football manager Dan Richardson said.
"He’s been a great addition to the team since arriving at the club late last year, and he’ll be missed on the field."
Tuck, 31, will also require surgery. The tough midfielder broke down in the third quarter but played bravely played out the win.
Richardson said the Tigers expect him to return and have a big impact in the second half of the year.
Richmond is set to welcome back Ty Vickery for next week's clash with embattled Melbourne, but Cotchin, Dylan Grimes and Ricky Petterd must prove their fitness this week.
Cotchin missed the win against Port Adelaide with a knee complaint.
Richmond had enjoyed a golden run with injury until last week, with only Reece Conca (foot) absent from its best side.
Knights enjoyed a breakout match against Fremantle three weeks ago. The rejuvenated half-forward enteried the Port Adelaide clash averaging 19 disposals and had booted five goals
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/afl/teams/richmond-has-lost-chris-knights-and-shane-tuck-to-injury/story-e6frf9mx-1226640654619
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If accurate very bad news. A real shame. Hope Knights comes back well and Tucky comes came firing in second half of season
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Tucks injury makes the match committee's decision to keep on playing him look VERY bad!
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Tucks injury makes the match committee's decision to keep on playing him look VERY bad!
Only if it made the injury worse. If they knew what it was and knew it couldn't be injured further then it's not really an issue but only the medical staff would know the true answer.
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If we miss the finals it'll be because of this
We have no luck :banghead
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Tucks injury makes the match committee's decision to keep on playing him look VERY bad!
Only if it made the injury worse. If they knew what it was and knew it couldn't be injured further then it's not really an issue but only the medical staff would know the true answer.
Don't know of many fractures that get better by someone bumping into the area in question. The guy was clearly in pain. It's not like we had no one left on the bench.
Poor decision. I wonder if Tucky agreed. If he didn't want to go back on, that would be bad....
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Tucks injury makes the match committee's decision to keep on playing him look VERY bad!
Only if it made the injury worse. If they knew what it was and knew it couldn't be injured further then it's not really an issue but only the medical staff would know the true answer.
Don't know of many fractures that get better by someone bumping into the area in question. The guy was clearly in pain. It's not like we had no one left on the bench.
Poor decision. I wonder if Tucky agreed. If he didn't want to go back on, that would be bad....
Yeah, agree with you. Now that its been confirmed as a fracture then there can be no reasonable excuse for sending him back on - in my layman's opinion.
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lonergan to be promoted.....or on his form maybe Darrou?
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Lets face it Knights was a good decision and slotted in nicely.
I think he was just starting to warm up and really find his groove in the team. We must remember he's had a horrible run with injuries the last couple of seasons so it was always going to take some time.
As the season progressed and his confidence grew and the teams faith in him grew, I personally thought he would been an excellent addition to our team especially if he could find more time in the midfield rotations.
I was always confident as a centre forward he was always going to be a handy player for us.
Unfortunately for him, the club and us, he has been injured again this time by just plain bad luck.
I was gutted on saturday when I seen it happen and I'm more gutted now that he's out for the season.
Lets hope he can come back for us next year bigger and better. :pray
P. S. sending Tuck into the field again is one of the dumbest things I've seen in a long time. :banghead
... And I'm not having a meltdown. Just sad. :'(
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The irony is that it may give edwards a chance.
will you be wanting him to succeed or fail, Mr T?
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Lets face it Knights was a good decision and slotted in nicely.
I think he was just starting to warm up and really find his groove in the team. We must remember he's had a horrible run with injuries the last couple of seasons so it was always going to take some time.
As the season progressed and his confidence grew and the teams faith in him grew, I personally thought he would been an excellent addition to our team especially if he could find more time in the midfield rotations.
I was always confident as a centre forward he was always going to be a handy player for us.
Unfortunately for him, the club and us, he has been injured again this time by just plain bad luck.
I was gutted on saturday when I seen it happen and I'm more gutted now that he's out for the season.
Lets hope he can come back for us next year bigger and better. :pray
P. S. sending Tuck into the field again is one of the dumbest things I've seen in a long time. :banghead
... And I'm not having a meltdown. Just sad. :'(
Have a sugar hit Mr Tigs I am sure all will be well again soon.
A pack of tim tams should do the trick. :thumbsup
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The irony is that it may give edwards a chance.
will you be wanting him to succeed or fail, Mr T?
C'mon Al, anything for the Tigers to succeed. :thumbsup
I'm not a fan of him personally which I have spoke about ad nauseam.
I still however believe he shouldn't be selected unless;
A) we are still in finals contention
B) we have exhausted all other forwards options.
If we aren't in finals contention then there's no point. Just play the youngsters anyway.
I personally think he's purely a back up if Riewoldt goes down with injury and we are still a chance.
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i have had 3 of these ops
2 on my left knee 1 on my right
very hard to get back to ur best , i hope modern procedures are better
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how did you do your knees
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how did you do your knees
Sticking the boots into Axel?
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how did you do your knees
Sticking the boots into Axel?
And Rance ;D
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lol
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how did you do your knees
i know what u r thinking and no!!!!
twice exactly how knights did it, and once landing in a marking contest
if u look carefully knights foot kinda grips and gets stuck in the turf.. it hurts more than braking i leg can tell u that, kneed cap pops out and tears the patella tendon
its a bitch of an injury as the patella is very important in stabilising the knee
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how did you do your knees
Sticking the boots into Axel?
And Rance ;D
they deserve it as tivendale did many yrs ago
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Yeah his foot was stuck and got twisted as he follows through
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i felt his pain
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I don't know, I've seen that piece of footage many times, and it just doesn't make any sense how he could have done it. The injury doesn't occur to the leg that he kicks with (meaning that there's no snapping motion), nor the leg that he lands on (meaning that there's no hyper-extension, or buckling as his weight collapses on it.) The leg in question just doesn't appear to suffer any trauma whatsoever, and yet there it is. It just looked so innocuous.
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I don't know, I've seen that piece of footage many times, and it just doesn't make any sense how he could have done it. The injury doesn't occur to the leg that he kicks with (meaning that there's no snapping motion), nor the leg that he lands on (meaning that there's no hyper-extension, or buckling as his weight collapses on it.) The leg in question just doesn't appear to suffer any trauma whatsoever, and yet there it is. It just looked so innocuous.
nothing to do with that
thefoot gets caught on the turf
his knee slightky just slightly tweaks and patella tracks out of alignment and u fall to ground
im bad cases like mine and knights and remember buckenara happened to him too the tendon tears or snaps , u also get bone damage under the patella as it grinds out and dislocates
once ur patella pops out u lose all stability in ur get and u fall to ground
its a b itch
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So is the surgery like a normal knee reco?
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I don't know, I've seen that piece of footage many times, and it just doesn't make any sense how he could have done it. The injury doesn't occur to the leg that he kicks with (meaning that there's no snapping motion), nor the leg that he lands on (meaning that there's no hyper-extension, or buckling as his weight collapses on it.) The leg in question just doesn't appear to suffer any trauma whatsoever, and yet there it is. It just looked so innocuous.
nothing to do with that
thefoot gets caught on the turf
his knee slightky just slightly tweaks and patella tracks out of alignment and u fall to ground
im bad cases like mine and knights and remember buckenara happened to him too the tendon tears or snaps , u also get bone damage under the patella as it grinds out and dislocates
once ur patella pops out u lose all stability in ur get and u fall to ground
its a b itch
Yeah, it's just that looking at the footage, all the momentum or force seems to go through the other side of his body. I just can't see what makes the patella pop. It does make you wince when he's lying there though, and you see the detached bone protruding under the skin at the wrong angle.
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to get technical , instability is cause by the Q angle of the femur at the hip joint and more powerful vastis lateralis muscles and weaker medialis muscles
so when the quad contracts it pulls harder at the lateral side than medial and the patella tracks incorrectly
this is why its very imp to have strong medialis muscles in ur quads
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to get technical , instability is cause by the Q angle of the femur at the hip joint and more powerful vastis lateralis muscles and weaker medialis muscles
so when the quad contracts it pulls harder at the lateral side than medial and the patella tracks incorrectly
this is why its very imp to have strong medialis muscles in ur quads
It's a common knee problem in athletes known loosely as 'runners knee'.
So is the surgery like a normal knee reco?
Not sure what the surgery would actually invovle, but to put the recover is perspective the most common surgery for ACL repair is they actually take part of your patella tendon and make it your new ACL and then most of the time spent recovering is repairing and strengthening through the patella tendon.
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So is the surgery like a normal knee reco?
nope unless the medial miniscus is torn
its more like a patella recon rather than knee
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the procedure they used to do was called the Rauw Golthwaite where they do a lateral release to weaken the vastis lateralis muscle , they also cut the patella vertically in half twist it to tighten in and screw it back in and fingers crossed it grafts ,, the screws never come out
im not sure if they do the same now but its a 9 month plus recovery back in my day
if u call me WP i can explain it to u better , easier than typing i can leave u my number if u wish
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the acl pcl lateral and medial ligaments are all ok so know full reco is required
as i said before , as the knee cap dislocates laterally sometimes the medial miniscus gets damaged and it pulls away
thing ppl dont realise is how important the patella is to the joint
this is a common issue in women who wear high heals too long and have wide hips and play netball(not in high heals of course lol)
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this is a common issue in women who wear high heals too long and have wide hips and play netball
My kind of women
Can I have yr number?
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the procedure they used to do was called the Rauw Golthwaite where they do a lateral release to weaken the vastis lateralis muscle , they also cut the patella vertically in half twist it to tighten in and screw it back in and fingers crossed it grafts ,, the screws never come out
im not sure if they do the same now but its a 9 month plus recovery back in my day
if u call me WP i can explain it to u better , easier than typing i can leave u my number if u wish
Or you could sit on the boundary and talk to doc larkins about it at qtr time
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this is a common issue in women who wear high heals too long and have wide hips and play netball
My kind of women
Can I have yr number?
sure
1800 555 6969
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the procedure they used to do was called the Rauw Golthwaite where they do a lateral release to weaken the vastis lateralis muscle , they also cut the patella vertically in half twist it to tighten in and screw it back in and fingers crossed it grafts ,, the screws never come out
im not sure if they do the same now but its a 9 month plus recovery back in my day u call me WP i can explain it to u better , easier than typing i can leave u my number if u wish
you could sit on the boundary and talk to doc larkins about it at qtr time
spoken with him.many times