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Title: Center Half Forward - who will hardwick pick first
Post by: Judge Roughneck on July 20, 2013, 02:11:49 PM
Outside of Jack (natural FF) and Vickery (2nd ruck / forward pocket) who will Hardwick pick first off the block to develop as our future forward line?
Title: Re: Center Half Forward - who will hardwick pick first
Post by: Dubstep Dookie on July 20, 2013, 02:23:08 PM
As long as Vickery half arses his way through season after season, we may not get so see much game time for anyone in a traditional CHF role.

McBean should play as the third tall though.
Title: Re: Center Half Forward - who will hardwick pick first
Post by: Tigeritis™©® on July 20, 2013, 06:01:53 PM
I'm hoping Griffiths will be everything we've always hoped for.

 :pray :pray :pray :pray :pray :pray
Title: Re: Center Half Forward - who will hardwick pick first
Post by: torch on July 20, 2013, 06:20:51 PM
It should be Ben Griffiths and needs to be Ben Griffiths.

McBean at Full Forward!

Jack in a pocket or at another club ...
Title: Re: Center Half Forward - who will hardwick pick first
Post by: Stripes on July 20, 2013, 09:11:09 PM
Next year McBean will get his turn in the Forwardline but in 2 or 3 years time, I actually think it will be McBean in Vickery's role, Griffith/Elton CHF and Jack FF.  Griffiths has had a terrible time off-field which has effected his football this year so expect him to come out of the gates firing next year as a dangerous forward.  :thumbsup
Title: Re: Center Half Forward - who will hardwick pick first
Post by: Judge Roughneck on July 20, 2013, 10:06:29 PM
Cookie u done head.

 Don't pm me if u going tonbloc k my PMS  :-*
Title: Re: Center Half Forward - who will hardwick pick first
Post by: Tigeritis™©® on July 21, 2013, 12:33:54 PM
Griffiths had a run of games in defense after a handful of games up forward.
He was dropped after 1 game this year and we haven't seen him since.

It's quite frustrating especially when you see the emergence of some youthful talls that the goldcoast have unearthed after giving them time to develop in the big time.

Rory Thomson 22, Sam Day 20, Tom Nicholls 21.

Sometimes a club has to just play these guys and they eventually come on or they don't ie. Angus Graham. Atleast by playing them you'll eventually know either way.

With Griffiths we still don't know if he's worth keeping but with his height, great skill by foot and a fair contested mark I've seen enough potential upside.
Its just so frustrating that he's not already locked in as our third tall and causing some serious headaches with his size a booming kicks.

I definately would like to see him tried again up forward and kept there for a reasonable time to finally make a call on him. I'm quietly confident that he'd flourish once he's given the backing of the coaching staff and once he gains some confidence he'd be a decent forward for us.
Title: Re: Center Half Forward - who will hardwick pick first
Post by: Yeahright on July 21, 2013, 09:44:24 PM
Although it's none of my business I'd like to know what these "off field problems" Griffiths is apparently having, or even just know if it's true or not. Then I'd know whether to cut him some slack or not
Title: Re: Center Half Forward - who will hardwick pick first
Post by: Chuck17 on July 22, 2013, 01:45:28 AM
It should be Ben Griffiths and needs to be Ben Griffiths.

McBean at Full Forward!

Jack in a pocket or at another club ...

Could I have a turn of what you are smoking
Title: Re: Center Half Forward - who will hardwick pick first
Post by: Chuck17 on July 22, 2013, 01:46:10 AM
Cookie u done head.

 Don't pm me if u going tonbloc k my PMS  :-*

WTF is English your fourth language?
Title: Re: Center Half Forward - who will hardwick pick first
Post by: Judge Roughneck on July 24, 2013, 02:24:32 PM
2nd
Title: Re: Center Half Forward - who will hardwick pick first
Post by: Coach on July 24, 2013, 04:31:18 PM
:lol
Title: Re: Center Half Forward - who will hardwick pick first
Post by: TigerTimeII on July 24, 2013, 07:46:42 PM
shane edwards


chf does not exist anymore

its all about structures high forwards and deep forwards

high fwds become mids and work up the ground , deep fwds stay closer to goal

traditional chf hff fp ff are positions of the past

we know have tall fwds usually 2 or 3 and small to medium forwards

some play as high forwards some as deep

new age footy

Title: Re: Center Half Forward - who will hardwick pick first
Post by: the claw on July 24, 2013, 09:06:39 PM
Cookie u done head.

 Don't pm me if u going tonbloc k my PMS  :-*

WTF is English your fourth language?
gotta agree. even for me and thats saying something i cant decipher that.
its definately not  swahili which i regularly type.
Title: Re: Center Half Forward - who will hardwick pick first
Post by: the claw on July 24, 2013, 09:22:01 PM
Outside of Jack (natural FF) and Vickery (2nd ruck / forward pocket) who will Hardwick pick first off the block to develop as our future forward line?
gotta disagree. imo jacks best position is CHF.  As a team atm we just cant afford to have him away from the goals too much. and yes hes shown himself to be a damn good ff as well.

if i was in charge of development at coburg i would set up like ths. this is based on the players best strengths as juniors. it applies only to talls.

b/ darrou - #### - ####
hb/ mcintosh  - astbury  - #### i put astbury here because i resign myself to the need to find another couple of kpds.

hf/ ####  - elton  - ####. this kid can take a grab  and he moves across the ground real well. for his size. time is on his side.
f/ mcbean - griffiths - ####. ff is griffiths natural position. mcbean we hope to develop into a ruckman  me i think his best position by far is in defense.
the trouble with this lot is we just dont know if any of them will be afl standard. 3 are very doubtful at this stage.


Title: Re: Center Half Forward - who will hardwick pick first
Post by: Yeahright on July 24, 2013, 10:45:10 PM
It's funny, I see Jack as a natural FF and Griff natural CHF
Title: Re: Center Half Forward - who will hardwick pick first
Post by: tony_montana on July 24, 2013, 11:27:39 PM
X2 ^^
Title: Re: Center Half Forward - who will hardwick pick first
Post by: gerkin greg on July 25, 2013, 10:04:04 AM
x3
Title: Re: Center Half Forward - who will hardwick pick first
Post by: Tigeritis™©® on July 25, 2013, 10:22:15 AM
As I've said would love to see Griff tried at CHF and backed in.
But its not looking like he's coming on as expected.

After the success of the Knights experiment and the superior insight I had mid last year in voicing my opinions on trading for him  ;D I would've thought that Blair H would've taken a keen interest in another one of the players on my radar.

Jesse White is establishing himself as quite a handy forward in the reigning premiership team and I even heard Harford & Mooney talking about him in glowing terms just the other day on SEN.
The unfortunate part of it is that if he's playing regular senior footy the more his price increases. We could've got him preseason for just a Nanas but if everyone starts to notice his worth he won't be the cheap trade option that he was late last year.

I don't like to say "I told you so" but this might be the case if he starts to gain the confidence and begin to make his mark on the competition.

.... I just hope its not this weekend.  :shh
Title: Re: Center Half Forward - who will hardwick pick first
Post by: gerkin greg on July 25, 2013, 10:39:50 AM
if it is this weekend you're banned from this forum
Title: Re: Center Half Forward - who will hardwick pick first
Post by: Tigeritis™©® on July 25, 2013, 10:49:23 AM
if it is this weekend you're banned from this forum
;D  :lol
Title: Re: Center Half Forward - who will hardwick pick first
Post by: Tigeritis™©® on July 29, 2013, 09:13:24 PM
Bump.

When does my ban get lifted????
Title: Re: Center Half Forward - who will hardwick pick first
Post by: Yeahright on July 29, 2013, 10:25:28 PM
Bump.

When does my ban get lifted????

Not until Jesse White has a stinker
Title: Re: Center Half Forward - who will hardwick pick first
Post by: Judge Roughneck on July 29, 2013, 11:21:30 PM
I'd rather everyone other play of swans list about before white

Give me a Reid Jetta anything (bar morton  :nope
Title: Re: Center Half Forward - who will hardwick pick first
Post by: Penelope on July 30, 2013, 08:31:37 AM
i was wondering how long it would take for the fapping over jessie white playing well on someone half his height.
Title: Re: Center Half Forward - who will hardwick pick first
Post by: MintOnLamb on July 30, 2013, 10:11:51 AM
Cookie u done head.

 Don't pm me if u going tonbloc k my PMS  :-*

WTF is English your fourth language?
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Title: Re: Center Half Forward - who will hardwick pick first
Post by: gerkin greg on July 30, 2013, 10:12:50 AM
still banned

GTFO
Title: Re: Center Half Forward - who will hardwick pick first
Post by: Sandtiger on July 30, 2013, 07:18:12 PM
Choco likened McBean to Justin Westhoff in an interview, if this is true we can expect reasonable form in the VFL but crap form in afl for at least another 3-4 years! - still worth it