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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: tony_montana on September 17, 2013, 11:36:13 AM
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What would you deem acceptable for losing Dusty?
GWS: I think we'll be lucky to walk away with Adams as a straight swap and that's only as a goodwill gesture from them. We are all aware of the danger that he can walk to them in the psd for nada
Melbourne: Pick 2 minimum, tbh would want a sweetener maybe their second rounder, think Dusty is better than the prospective number 2 pick.
Brisbane: Their first pick and Longer or FO
Pies: Their first pick and their Daisy compensation, I know some people are a bit reticent but picks 10 and 11 are fair. Ellis and Vlastuin types together are >>>>Martin
Hawks: Got nothing they can offer us unless they trade into the first round in a big way.
Blues: Same as Hawks
Nought: lol
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Carlton generally pay overs :lol
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Martin to GWS For Adams and Patton. Patton would be the Sweetener. A bit like taking a mortgaged property in Monopoly to close a deal.
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Martin to GWS For Adams and Patton. Patton would be the Sweetener. A bit like taking a mortgaged property in Monopoly to close a deal.
Why would they do that? If he nominates GWS as his preferred club, we wont get much as they don't have to. If we cant come to a trade agreement with GWS Dusty walks into the psd where GWS have 1st pick. As I said at best we'll get Adams in a straight swap and that's if GWS want to be amicable
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Martin to GWS For Adams and Patton. Patton would be the Sweetener. A bit like taking a mortgaged property in Monopoly to close a deal.
Why would they do that? If he nominates GWS as his preferred club, we wont get much as they don't have to. If we cant come to a trade agreement with GWS Dusty walks into the psd where GWS have 1st pick. As I said at best we'll get Adams in a straight swap and that's if GWS want to be amicable
Interest from Melbourne helps a bit.
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2 first round draft picks, one of them in the Top 5, and a good player that has been in the system 3-4 years. Minimum.
Anything else I consider unacceptable and Dan Richardson and Blair Hartley should be sacked if they can't achieve that.
I'm not interested in 'breaking even' if Martin goes. It needs to be a massive win.
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2 first round draft picks, one of them in the Top 5, and a good player that has been in the system 3-4 years. Minimum.
Anything else I consider unacceptable and Dan Richardson and Blair Hartley should be sacked if they can't achieve that.
I'm not interested in 'breaking even' if Martin goes. It needs to be a massive win.
If he wants to go, we have little bargaining power. He can just say he will walk into the PSD with a price on his head. I can't see how you can sack our guys given this situation.
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Didn't Roos fly to Perth recently to talk to Hogan and go through what they have planned for him....
Hopefully it went something like this 'Hoges, we're trading you to Richmond along with pick 2 for Dustin Martin, Dawesy and Clarky are our gun forwards' :pray
Seriously, this would be a dream scenario.
Pick 2 and 19 to Tigers
Martin to Melbourne
Pick 2 to Adelaide
Sloane to Richmond
Pick 19 and Foley to GWS
Adams to Richmond
:pray :pray :pray
Sloane, Adams and we keep pick 12
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GWS: the only thing stopping them from getting him for free is him not worrying where he goes and we get better offers forcing them to deal. Might not be enough for pick 1, but Adams plus something substantial or Patton (and some pick swapping to even it up for whoever is getting a raw deal).
Melbourne: pick 2 and a sweetener, no idea what but something we can use ourselves and then try and use pick 2 to deal with trying to get Adams, Longer etc.
Pies: 10 and 11 (or whatever they will be) then trying to use our 3 picks around there to get Longer, Adams and still having one to use ourselves.
They're the only ones off the top of my head that would suit us in the terms of most value. Other clubs have SFA.
Who knows, if Conca goes to Freo then say hello to at least another first round pick and we could go even harder for pick one and still remain in the first round ourselves.
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2 first round draft picks, one of them in the Top 5, and a good player that has been in the system 3-4 years. Minimum.
Anything else I consider unacceptable and Dan Richardson and Blair Hartley should be sacked if they can't achieve that.
I'm not interested in 'breaking even' if Martin goes. It needs to be a massive win.
If he wants to go, we have little bargaining power. He can just say he will walk into the PSD with a price on his head. I can't see how you can sack our guys given this situation.
Little bargaining power? The count of suitors is already up to half a dozen clubs.
If we get screwed over at the contract table and then proceed to get screwed at the trade table, Richardson and Hartley should be burned in a petrol fire.
we rfc we ged fisty 4 fun pls cum ovr n say hai
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GWS: the only thing stopping them from getting him for free is him not worrying where he goes and we get better offers forcing them to deal. Might not be enough for pick 1, but Adams plus something substantial or Patton (and some pick swapping to even it up for whoever is getting a raw deal).
Melbourne: pick 2 and a sweetener, no idea what but something we can use ourselves and then try and use pick 2 to deal with trying to get Adams, Longer etc.
Pies: 10 and 11 (or whatever they will be) then trying to use our 3 picks around there to get Longer, Adams and still having one to use ourselves.
They're the only ones off the top of my head that would suit us in the terms of most value. Other clubs have SFA.
Who knows, if Conca goes to Freo then say hello to at least another first round pick and we could go even harder for pick one and still remain in the first round ourselves.
From Melbourne how about Pick 2 and for the sweetener Sam Blease? This kid can play. :thumbsup
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GWS: the only thing stopping them from getting him for free is him not worrying where he goes and we get better offers forcing them to deal. Might not be enough for pick 1, but Adams plus something substantial or Patton (and some pick swapping to even it up for whoever is getting a raw deal).
Melbourne: pick 2 and a sweetener, no idea what but something we can use ourselves and then try and use pick 2 to deal with trying to get Adams, Longer etc.
Pies: 10 and 11 (or whatever they will be) then trying to use our 3 picks around there to get Longer, Adams and still having one to use ourselves.
They're the only ones off the top of my head that would suit us in the terms of most value. Other clubs have SFA.
Who knows, if Conca goes to Freo then say hello to at least another first round pick and we could go even harder for pick one and still remain in the first round ourselves.
From Melbourne how about Pick 2 and for the sweetener Sam Blease? This kid can play. :thumbsup
Could be a spot opening up in the ranga brigade too :cheers
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From Melbourne Pick 2 and Colin Sylvia? Would be pretty awesome to have h in our side.. 28 years old so still has a good 3 years left ;D
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What would you deem acceptable for losing Dusty?
GWS: I think we'll be lucky to walk away with Adams as a straight swap and that's only as a goodwill gesture from them. We are all aware of the danger that he can walk to them in the psd for nada
Melbourne: Pick 2 minimum, tbh would want a sweetener maybe their second rounder, think Dusty is better than the prospective number 2 pick.
Brisbane: Their first pick and Longer or FO
Pies: Their first pick and their Daisy compensation, I know some people are a bit reticent but picks 10 and 11 are fair. Ellis and Vlastuin types together are >>>>Martin
Hawks: Got nothing they can offer us unless they trade into the first round in a big way.
Blues: Same as Hawks
Nought: lol
GWS may have to trade bud, if other are interested. The PSD would only occur if only GWS were interested. Of course, its still a possibility, but other teams will be in the hunt. As far as I see it, a disaster if that were to occur, and not in the Richmond off field I've seen of the last few years. With Adams keen to come home, I'd say its the most likely scenario. Straight swap would hurt, but beggars can't be chosers.
Melb. Pick 2 feels about right. What we've also got going for us, is that Melb already have the picks, they need some maturity and x factor, which Martin brings in spades. So giving up their pick 2 won't be ruled out.
I was talking with a Carlton mate yesterday, far fetched, but he was thinking Martin => Pies, Daisy => Blues, Kruezer => Tigs. Doesn't sound too far off the mark?
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I was talking with a Carlton mate yesterday, far fetched, but he was thinking Martin => Pies, Daisy => Blues, Kruezer => Tigs. Doesn't sound too far off the mark?
See this is a perfect example of why people that barrack for Carlscum have crap for brains
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I was talking with a Carlton mate yesterday, far fetched, but he was thinking Martin => Pies, Daisy => Blues, Kruezer => Tigs. Doesn't sound too far off the mark?
See this is a perfect example of why people that barrack for Carlscum have crap for brains
:lol :lol :lol :lol
Humphrey B Bear for Dusty
hahahaha
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i was more lol'ing at the pies getting anything
daisy is a free agent and can just walk
blues would just cut them out and try and deal direct with us to land dusty as well
**** their supporters are thick
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The threat of the PSD is overplayed. when was last time a player just walked at the insistance of the club with first pick without a fair effort at getting a deal done?
Houli? we offered a fair deal for a bloke not getting a game. Essendon were just stuffwits.
Stevens? wanted to go to collingwood, but port asked too much and again it was a case of port taking skin of their nose to spite their face, so he ended up at carlton ( something he later said we regretted).
Luke ball? again the aints were beligerant. knocked back pick 20 something or pick 30 and a fringe player and he ended up at the scum with 30 in the ND.
If dusty decides he wants to go to GWS and they want him, we will likely not get what we could on the open market, but most probably it will be close and we will have to accept it or get nothing like the other stuffwit clubs above.
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If GWS decide to play hardball and not offer Adams but instead a pick in the mid to high teens bc they can?
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if they do,the have the upper hand. i doubt they will. history says they will offer something close to fair, but they will get the better of it.
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if they do,the have the upper hand. i doubt they will. history says they will offer something close to fair, but they will get the better of it.
If they want to play hard ball, we go trade with the Dees. Simple. :rollin
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no, because if dusty doesnt want to go there we cant force him.
there is talk around that the AFL will not allow dusty to walk to the PSD. as they pretty much own GWS they can final say in their dealings, and given the context of the cypriot's statement on the matter it may have an element of truth.
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If Martin decides to go to GWS they will NOT screw us.
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they will offer pick 9 and Adams IMHO.
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I was talking with a Carlton mate yesterday, far fetched, but he was thinking Martin => Pies, Daisy => Blues, Kruezer => Tigs. Doesn't sound too far off the mark?
There are still a lot of people out there that can't get their head around Free Agency.
Daisy doesn't have to be traded for, Col Sylvia doesn't have to be traded for.
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they will offer pick 9 and Adams IMHO.
Whats Adams like ramps?
I dont care for his stats of 2013. Can he be a match winner
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i dont think he is as dynamic as martin, but few are. he comes with a pretty good tank already though and works hard both ways. Lays plenty of tackles for a kid too.
Match winners are not much use if they are not constant and have a solid supporting cast.
I'm starting to think he wont go anyway, so it's probably all moot.
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The threat of the PSD is overplayed. when was last time a player just walked at the insistance of the club with first pick without a fair effort at getting a deal done?
Houli? we offered a fair deal for a bloke not getting a game. Essendon were just stuffwits.
Stevens? wanted to go to collingwood, but port asked too much and again it was a case of port taking skin of their nose to spite their face, so he ended up at carlton ( something he later said we regretted).
Luke ball? again the aints were beligerant. knocked back pick 20 something or pick 30 and a fringe player and he ended up at the scum with 30 in the ND.
If dusty decides he wants to go to GWS and they want him, we will likely not get what we could on the open market, but most probably it will be close and we will have to accept it or get nothing like the other stuffwit clubs above.
Darwin has good air.
Thankfully it also has the Internet.
Thank **** for Al :clapping
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I was talking with a Carlton mate yesterday, far fetched, but he was thinking Martin => Pies, Daisy => Blues, Kruezer => Tigs. Doesn't sound too far off the mark?
See this is a perfect example of why people that barrack for Carlscum have crap for brains
:clapping
They are like collingwood supporters only hairer, smellier and have a couple more teeth
On SEN, I was ::) at the deluded scum supporters ringing up with their personal fairytale wishlists.
1 dic k head in particular asked KB what he thought of a straight swap for yarran. :o yes he was serious :clapping :whistle
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Still laughing at my Pies mates who reckon they'll get him for 'whatever they offer us' IE pick 11.
I just told them straight up - Martin for Beams or Reid. No Swan.
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they will offer pick 9 and Adams IMHO.
I'd take that as a break even.
If Martin decides to go to GWS they will NOT screw us.
Agree, the afl wont let them, more importantly, GWS has more to lose and wont want to. Both know they could easily get reemed when their kids want back home, so both will take a proactive approach now. It's in their interests to be fair.
In short, if GWS try to roll us then this will be the modus operandi in dealing with the newest clubs
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they will offer pick 9 and Adams IMHO.
Whats Adams like ramps?
I dont care for his stats of 2013. Can he be a match winner
No he isnt a matchwinner in the mould of martin but he will be a good player nevertheless. Pick 9 gives us another top 10 pick as well. so all up I think its fair because whilst Martin has a reputation as a gamebreaker he doesnt do it often enough.
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Adams will be a very good player at the least.
we will not get adams and pick 9 for dustin martin.
we could look to upgrade picks
it would go adams plus pick 20 and pick 38 for martin and pick 28. imo that would almost be best case scenario for us.
it would leave us with the following and focusing solely on the nd. we would also have options with picks like these to trade em away. it would allow us to say trade pick 11 for longer and still keep a pretty decent pick #20 in the nd.
anyway nd alone
adams basically would be a top 10 pick this draft.
11 geez one of, trent dumont, blake acres, luke dunstan, dom sheed or marcus bontempelli would be assured. one of these blokes could be there at 20.reckon we would be happy with any of these and one of them along with adams would go a long way to off setting martins loss.
20 this would be a free hit on what we percieve is our greatest need. imo it would give us a free shot at darcy cameron a 203cm 98kg ruckman from claremont. he could slip to 38 but with the extra pick do we risk it.
38 would give us some chance at getting dayle garlett. there will be decent mids available here someone like nick robertson would be a steal here.or we could look at a kpd like tom barras
46. ben sokol a fwd/mid or again look for a tall
anything along these lines while not offsetting the loss of such a high quality player like martin would alleviate a lot of pain and allow us to address a lot of needs whith damn good picks.
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Martin to Melbourne for pick 2 the priority pick if available or Sam Blease. I agree with Tiga the kid can play is lightning fast and has good goal sense.